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I just did a minor upgrade from the i5 3470 in a dell optiplex 3010 to a i7 4790 in a Dell optiplex 9020. The i5 is definitely usable but it struggles on more demanding games even when paired with a low end rx560 2gb gpu.
i used to use the i5-3470 paired with the MSI Armor OC RX-570. It ran games very smoothly and made for a very good budget build. Surprisingly, I also have an FX-8350 build along with a Ryzen 7 2700X build.
Great video, one thing I don't understand about people who do these reviews is rhe way they only test online fps games for the most part it's like 80% of their benchmarks and not everyone wants to play those games.
I would like it if there were more early access steam games represented. They would probably perform phenomenally in most cases and for casual gamers that don’t need a 3090 ray tracing monster pc.
That's because those FPS/RPG are the best games to test, they are the most demanding. Stellaris, Civ, and other games will be less intensive and in the former's case, mostly CPU-bound.
Great job! But not a long time ago I looked up all the old prizes when I bought my pc (fx-6300 based) and I'm was very confused when even a quad core cpu with a good ipc tend to struggle but not the fx lines. Heck back in the day I could buy a fx 8300 of the price of an i3 6100. Are there any plants to compare them? Keep up the good work.
Thumbs down for a good and informative video with some false conclusions. By limiting the resolution to 900p and only playing in low settings, you've created a bottleneck with the CPU! Because the pc is always (!) going to be maxed out when you do not limit fps or something. And since this GTX970 is chilling at 900p low, the CPU is going to run as fast as it cans, mostly on 100%. So all the "problems" you had with "only low graphics", stuttering, pop ins, TeamSpeak not running smoothly is all because of your CPU bottleneck. By upping the settings to 1080p medium or high you would maxing out the GPU (what is intended on a gaming pc) which gives the CPU room to breathe! This way, most of your problems (pop ins, stutter) would be gone and your actual conclusion would be different (eg not been able to use TeamSpeak properly). All in all a smooth experience in 1080p medium or high settings is much more enjoyable and leads to a different opinion that this stutter at 900p low.
Just like stated at 1:10 of this video, the reason the resolution was limited to 900p and the settings were set to low is to avoid GPU bottlenecks. Using higher settings or resolution would make this a GPU test, not a CPU, so that is something you have to keep in mind. Increasing the settings or locking the frame rate to a lower value to give the CPU some breathing room can indeed help reduce these issues, but only to an extent and unfortunately *not always.* You're also forgetting that by increasing the graphics settings the performance is going to drop, in some cases it's going to drop *significantly* to the point that the game isn't going to be any more playable compared to low settings. In some areas of the game you will see an improvement, in other more intensive situations the experience will mostly stay the same or will maybe even get worse compared to low settings. For example from 2:26-2:45 when I show The Division 2 results in areas where the i5 struggles, you can see that the GPU usage doesn't exceed 60%, while the frame rate is mostly hovering between 60-70 FPS. That means, to reduce those stutters and loading issues by making the GTX 970 reach 100% utilization, we're going to need to max out the settings to the point the frame rate drops to around 35-45 FPS. Locking the frame rate to about 45-50 FPS instead would be a better idea, which is something I mention at 2:37, but once again, it's only going to reduce those issues to an extent, they won't be eliminated entirely. Same goes for BFV (3:56), Warzone (4:20), SOTR (5:08) and PUBG (5:57) - whether you play at low settings or increase them/lock the frame rate to a lower value, you're not going to have a great experience. The CPU is the main issue here, Hasso, and there's not much that can be done here to really improve things, other than upgrading to an i7 of course. Here's a link to a comparison I made of the FX-8350 and the i5-3470, which shows how useful extra cores or threads can be depending on the situation. I thought you'd find it interesting since I also tested some of these games using both low and high settings. ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html Keep in mind that the graphics card that was used in the linked video is an EVGA GTX 1070. Here are timestamps for the same games that were tested in this video: SOTR (Low and High) - 13:49 BFV - 15:03 Apex Legends (Low and High) 15:58 Division 2 - 17:08 Warzone 17:43
I bought this Cpu 5 days ago at 55€ with an Asus p8 h61 m lx 2 and the stock fan also.... My previous Cpu was a phenom x4 b55 3.3ghz, in my opinion I love this processor and for gaming is still a beast, a great upgrade against my phenom x4 b55, and I have a gtx 660 with the I5 3470
Gg, i just bought a Xeon e3 1220v2 (i think it has practically the same performance) and an asus gtx 750 ti oc edition 30 for the CPU and 65 for the gpu
I have so many of those CPUs. I've decommissioned many Dell and Lenovo machines with these in them. They're great for one thing, imho, pfSense routers.
I have this processor. We're nearly in 2022 and the single core performance (which of course is critical) is well over half that of the highest single core performance of all desktop processors. Only tasks which require more multitasking performance are going to be severely lacking compared to processors with many more cores that are much newer. It holds up incredibly well considering it's age. You can definitely game on it, though you're not going to have the best experience money can buy. But it will be incredibly cheap in comparison. Claiming it's falling behind really is comparing it to the very best, and that only in the most extreme situations. Just turn a couple of options down from what you run with the top of the line and it'll be back up there again. Intel basically hasn't progressed much in the last decade, and you shouldn't compare a middle of he line chip from 10 years ago with the latest and greatest, although when you do this chip incredibly still hold's it's head up.
I didn't even compare it to modern processors. It just struggles in most modern games, and there's no way around it. If you want to see a 10 year old CPU that actually holds up incredibly well, which is also the CPU that this i5 competed with, you can watch the comparison below. ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
@@jaimenbrunson1652 From the games I mentioned its been playing perfectly also Forza Horizon 4 I get around 80 frps in Ultra. No stutter or graphics load in. I have 16gb RAM aswell.
Yes. You will notice it. Although modern games will struggle (not all of them), if you have no choice but i5 3470 go with it. An i7 3770 would be a better choice if you can find one for a decent price. I've upgraded an old optiplex 3010 from an i3 3220 to an i5 3470 and a gtx 970 g1 gaming and it's night and day. Also get all the ram you can, at the fatest speed your motherboard can take. Edited for typo.
I wonder if stuterring can be helped by limiting FPS to 60 or 30. It's interesting that you had problems in SOTTR. I finished that game on my ancient Phenom II X4 965 and on DX12. I had stuterring when i arrived at new places, but once everything loaded the FPS was above 30 and no graphics errors were visible.
Yes, limiting the frame rate can help reduce the stuttering. I'm sure those issues in SOTR would go away after running the benchmark for a few more times, yet I'd still use DX11 since it delivers a better performance than DX12 when using low core count CPUs.
He quiet now, lmao. Is there any way to make 30 FPS look smooth though? Consoles have done a really good job at making it look okay but on PC, it always look choppy.
I think there is something wrong with the GPU or something cuz i played all these games on RX470 and i5 3470 16gb 1600MHz ram, and they all ran well 1080p maxout or ultra 50 to 55fps back when I had that system
Just bought this i5 and I'm amazed how well it holds up. But I must save some more money for an RX 470/570... Price: 70 euros i5 3470 2x4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz 120 GB Gigabyte SSD (from my old pc) 320 & 250 GB HDD (250 hdd from my old pc) Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
Mine started glitching, stuttering like mad and blue screening. And memory sometimes didn't register, but swapping the modules fixed it. So I guess no? Unless they're 2014 and older titles.
Nice video. I'm using an i3 2120 (which has been great for 10 years) but considering swapping to a later LGA 1155 CPU- managed to find this for £30 so think I'll go for it!
@@valkx6204 hi mate, in the end I went for the i7 3770. I live in the UK and picked it up for £37, aside from the 3770k it's the best CPU for the chipset you can buy. Performance increase from the i3 2120 to the i7 3770 is crazy 👌 I can ultra BF4 around 70-80 frames how, before on low around 30-40. Well worth the upgrade 💪
If you're asking about the i5-3470 in particular - yes, it can handle video editing, though expect the render times and playback to be worse than something like an i7-2600k or an FX-8350.
I bought a refurbed HP Elite 8200 SFF, 8gig RAM with Windows 10 installed for £99 and expected the i5-2450 but was pleasantly surprised to find an i5-3470 in it 👍
i5 3470 CPUs are still plenty powerful even in 2022 and quite cheap provided you have an LGA1155 motherboard to go with the 3470 CPU. Even an i5 2500 are almost equivalent to the i7 2600 CPU and will work on the same LGA1155 motherboard. Once you get over 3.1 Ghz everything is pretty much the same and a good video card will make greatest amount of difference. I have the i7 2600 in my HP SFF 8200 with 14 GB of ram and a Quadro K600 and find this system does everything quite smoothly and video edits easily without any problem whatsoever.
@@neogeo1670 Actually the 3470 is a great CPU that can be picked up easily for less than $20 today. There's really no difference once a person gets over 3.20 Ghz in terms of the CPU clock speed. I have a i7 2600 SFF HP computer and there is no difference whatsoever in a 3470 and the 2600. Too much fake artificial hype on the internet and UA-cam that tells people that newer is better. I still use 8 GB in my HP SFF and there is no difference whatsoever between 8 GB and 16 GB. If you want more performance just use MSI Afterburner and you should be able to bump up your GPU clock speed around 5% ~ 8%.
Hi, I have a question, I have a i7-870 and one friend is selling me One i5-3470 very cheaper, you think that is a good idea buying or not, I have actually a RX-580, Yes I know that i have a bottleneck but the price of the I5 its so low so i need a answer to buying or not thanks and good video
Personally I don't think it's worth the upgrade, since the i7 870 is a 4C/8T part while the i5-3470 is a 4C/4T one, so for the most part it would probably be a downgrade. I'd definitely save up for at least the 2600K or 3770K instead.
Thanks for take a time for answer me!, I forgot add that my actually motherboard only support (atleast the brand) 8Gb ddr3, and the max processor support its the i7-870... the motherboard of the i5 can support up to 32gb, and 2 slot pci-e maayyybe later i can upgrade the motherboard to a i7-3770 but i don't know anyway thanks i need to think about that... Have a good day!
yeah, it's time for me to get an upgrade. I'm still using my 1030 - i5-3470 -16GB to stream games, and have to play them on low settings while recording. It has lasted a very long time though. excellent video.
Single cores dying sure. Dual cores dying yeah probably. But when quad cores just aren't enough anymore, what the heck is going on? That's 4 times the cores compared to single core and it still isn't enough to keep up? Now days you want a proper 6 core to just stay alive lol.
@@RATechYT Haha I bought an i5 3470 yesterday hopefully be here next week, will still be an upgrade compared to my laptop that is an i5-2520M :P (Dual Core running Windows 11)
Not saying it's a bad graphics card or that it can't handle 1080p at high settings. The main point behind using a lower resolution & lowest settings is to prevent the GPU from creating a bottleneck.
It's 2022, and I'm still using an i5 3470. I doubt that will change until my CPU or motherboard fails. I haven' owned a high-spec PC, and am quite used to playing games at around 30 fps. I haven't bought any new releases in a while. [DIablo 3 was my most recent purchase.]
It's silly. I got a i5-3450, MB with pcie gen 3, 16gb ddr3 1600Mhz, SSD and even with my old GTX 1060 and now with my new RTX 3060, I run RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, Farc Cry 5 and 6 and the assassin's Creed in high or ultra, 1080p and 60 fps Vsync and I don't sweating bullets. You're GPU need to be change.
If you only paid attention to the GPU usage in every single game, you'd understand that upgrading the graphics card would result in no performance uplift. Even with an RTX 4090 it would be about the same in most cases. Using a Ryzen 5 2600 with almost every other component being the same (other than motherboard and RAM of course) results in significant performance uplift. Even the FX-8350 from 2012 can perform much better in some cases when using the same graphics card and RAM frequency. - ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
I have i5 3570 is good for single player gaming, i not play multiplayer, cpu is good but i like emulator for gaming emulator like cemu zelda n rpcs3 is not recomendation... Maybe time to upgrade to ryzen 3300x or i5 10400f
say no to stock coolers. Intel Stock coolers are causing the FPS Spikes/Stutters. I chaned mine and whoa the massive difference in consistency. Stock coolers are only good to boot test and install OS. Not Play games.
I already replied to another similar comment you left on a different video of mine. The CPU is not throttling, so there's no reason for it to be underperforming. It still has a 50 degree headroom - using a better cooler won't make any difference other than lowering the temperature.
@@RATechYT The Temp sensor of the CPU die is broken because u used the stock cooler, or perhaps u got it defective. Stock cooler will cause Temp spikes upwards of 91C during gaming. When a CPU is utilized above 80% it clearly means it wil cross the 90c mark and what u could be seeing is permanent thermal throttle. Fun fact the Temps on a n old i5 cross 80C during bootup using a stock cooler thereby throttling immediately to settle at 60c lock. Ditch the Stock cooler, CPU will loose the ability permanently if the die is overcooked for a long time.
@@jashsylde8136 No offense, but these are some of the strangest comments I've ever got. I don't just get these parts and make videos about them immediately. Before I do the testing, I make sure that these parts perform properly by checking the temperatures, clock speeds, comparing my results with others results and so on, and this i5 performs *exactly* like it should, I don't have a single doubt about that. The temperature sensor isn't broken, the maximum temperature of this thing is 70 degrees celsius while using Intel Burn Test (in a 20 degree room temperature), which is right around what other people are getting online, and the clock speed stays right where it should under full load. It simply never drops down to 1.6 GHz, which is where it tends to drop when it throttles, and there's not a single game where this i5 drops to that clock speed while playing. The results that this CPU gets in benchmarks such as Cinebench R15, Blender, Corona etc are always identical every run and match the ones online, I spend hours making dozens of runs in these programs making sure that the results are accurate, and these benchmarks tax the CPU much more than gaming. Had this CPU been throttling, the scores would get lower and lower with every run, which never happened during testing, so if it doesn't drop clock speeds in stress tests and benchmarks, it sure as hell won't be throttling even in the most intensive games out there.
Hey, I've been using this processor for a while now and I can say there are multiple fixes to the issues shown in the video, one major one is turning down graphics settings and limiting the game to 30-45 FPS, and it works fine for me, I do have an' upgraded rig but I made a Guest Rig using a Dell Optiplex 7050 and putting in a RX 6400 and I've had many guests over who do not complain about the FPS when I have a ton of spare parts and could just build a better spare rig, I think the novelty of the Guest Rig is mainly why I haven't replaced it yet, and think it'll stay for years to come, I've even let people rent out the room for a couple weeks and let them use it as a complimentary PC and they don't mind it either as it runs the games and apps the people needed perfectly when the settings are adjusted accordingly!
I do mention that a frame cap will help, but it's just a band aid on the problem rather than a fix. If the game runs at 60 FPS but occasionally drops to 20, you need to limit the frame rate to 20 to not have those stutters, there's simply no way of keeping 60 FPS and completely eliminating the stuttering. This is an old quad core chip, so these results are normal.
@@RATechYT I mean that is true, Potato Graphics Mods exist for tons of games now, and whilst I do recommend them, I don’t recommend them on games like A.o.T 2: Final Battle, as the potato mod for that game makes it so enemies only load in if they are 25M close to the player instead of the standard 50M and if they choose to prep for a grab attack, with how fast medium-high rank grapples pull you in, you cannot dodge in time. Also, do you know how well this chip pairs on its own when playing titles like outlast, as I cannot find any websites that allow me to just choose performance off a cpu alone and always requires a paired up GPU, and even than idk what HD Graphics the chip uses, as I may be good with tech, I never learned how to check for it.
@@FinalBossOfCanada I don't think there are a lot of games that can be run off of the iGPU of the i5-3470 at a playable frame rate. It's most likely equal to the lowest end dedicated GPU of it's time, something like a GT 610, so if the minimum GPU requirements of a game are higher than that, then you won't be able to play it.
@@RATechYT ah, fair enough, fair enough, due to I am thinking about upgrading my father’s PC itself since he uses the same chip as my guest PC, as well as a GTX 960 still for modern gaming, he even overclocked it to run it, despite it crashing constantly, he still tries, and I plan to give him a good PC Upgrade for his next birthday.
I went from a i7 2600s to an i5 3470 that I parted out from a tossed out PC (along with a 500gb SSD and GTX 750 ti!!) Also notice latency spikes in COD4 MWR. Wondering if the older (Sandy Bridge) i7 would fair better with it's 4 cores and 8 threads? Hmmm. Seems plausible. (Looks for thermal paste) Ha!
Mee too ,i braught a i 5 3470, i think it Will be nice to me My old pentium 2010 2.8Ghz killd me while gaming Which is the best garapics card i can choose without bottlenecking??? Any suggestions guyz.... And 1 thing also , where did we get these h 77 motherboards , am searching one of those....😉
@@jayhogan7750i like your suggestion thanks bro, but i already spend some money in i 5 3470 to buy ☹️ Will you pls suggest me a gpu that this processor can handle nicely without bottlenecking, and I can use in future update
I kind of screwed myself over I am upgrading a old system I only had a budget of $80 for a CPU I bought the CPU and then this video gets uploaded and then almost no graphics card will stop the stuttering guys do not buy the CPU I do not recommend it at all
honestly, none of these games look playable. Frametimes are so bad, it turns them into a choppy mess. Reminds me of the early 2000s when I was stuck with a PII 333 MHz (replaced it in 2004)
I was interested to pair this CPU with RX 6500xt or RX 6400. They both have the performance equal to 1650 but at lower price. Is it okay or it's gonna heavily bottleneck the pc? Or is the cpu gonna prevent the gpu from releasing it's full power? I'm aware of the Rx 6500xt & Rx 6400 pcie lane but these card are the most worth of the money in my country. Everything is still overprice
@@danb4900 the second hand market is ridiculous. A weaker card is more expensive than rx 6500 xt. Not only that, you also don't have a one year waranty. Very risky purchase for a weaker card.
I have i5 3470 oc to 3800 mhz and i play without any fps drops or others lags to bad tahta i didnt play all the game that you test but in pubg i have stable 100 to 140 fps on 1080p in warzone 70 to 100 fps in 720p asassins creed unity 1080p 60 to 90 fps and metro exodus 50 to 70 fps 720p so idk why you have fps drops or freezes i dont have that lol
@@RATechYT still i think the textures or npc load bug it was not the cpu fault ( i might be wrong i am not a expert tho xd just saying what my expirence was with this cpu) i had the same load bugs in the past but after upgrade from hdd to ssd its all stop and now all works perfectly fine as it should be (sorry for my bad eng still learning bro haha)
@@YunoExile It wasn't a CPU problem in PUBG, cause the game runs pretty good on the i5 after the latest update. When it comes to other games though, issues still persist.
@@Shion-cr9sl What are your specs? Just so you know, after testing the game a bit more using the i5, I came to the conclusion that it doesn't always perform good. In some instances it does alright, but in others it tends to stutter quite a bit. I talk about that in this video at 15:57: ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
I use Shadowplay's Instant Replay feature to record all of my gameplay footage. The recordings are done using the in-game resolution, which is 1080p, @60 FPS.
@@RATechYTI just think that in cpu benchmarks should mainly contain cpu intensive games like for example competetive games that have been made to prioritize performance over quality. and yes difference between 100 and 220 is important if you are of corse playing competetive games at higher level
@@obycajnyneznalec1237 I mean, this CPU (and pretty much any mid-range processor that released after 2012) runs CS:GO so good, that there's no point of even testing it. Obviously it's not going to deliver 300 FPS constantly, but 150+ frames, which is what this i5 is capable of, is definitely more than enough for the game to be playable. Besides, the point of the video is to show how this CPU performs in modern titles.
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Bro I wanted to buy the cpu so is I got two CPUs 2.9hz and 3.2 and the 3.2 hz is not available in trusted sights will I see a big difference
just bought myself an i5 3450 for my pc, will be a nice upgrade since i had a shitty celeron g540 2c/2t 2.5 ghz
it's a good cpu man. Congrats
Trust me, its gonna be HUGE upgrade from that shitty CPU.
bought an optiplex with a i5 3470, 8gigs of ram, upgraded from a laptop with like amd a4 5000 1.5ghz lmao
I just did a minor upgrade from the i5 3470 in a dell optiplex 3010 to a i7 4790 in a Dell optiplex 9020. The i5 is definitely usable but it struggles on more demanding games even when paired with a low end rx560 2gb gpu.
"Playing modern games."
775 platforms CPUs: Don't even think about it.
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@@hieuthinh2018 no
Bro, I just started looking for i5 3470 from India and found this❤️❤️
Where?
@@nandhinisr3443 OLX
What should be the maximum temp of i5 integrated Graphics temperature????
No GPU I mean
Don't go for this. Atleast go for Ryzen 5 1400
i used to use the i5-3470 paired with the MSI Armor OC RX-570. It ran games very smoothly and made for a very good budget build. Surprisingly, I also have an FX-8350 build along with a Ryzen 7 2700X build.
Waiting for the FX comparison, should be interesting.
Me too!
same here, it's a very interesting comparison indeed
Great video, one thing I don't understand about people who do these reviews is rhe way they only test online fps games for the most part it's like 80% of their benchmarks and not everyone wants to play those games.
I would like it if there were more early access steam games represented. They would probably perform phenomenally in most cases and for casual gamers that don’t need a 3090 ray tracing monster pc.
That's because those FPS/RPG are the best games to test, they are the most demanding. Stellaris, Civ, and other games will be less intensive and in the former's case, mostly CPU-bound.
Great job! But not a long time ago I looked up all the old prizes when I bought my pc (fx-6300 based) and I'm was very confused when even a quad core cpu with a good ipc tend to struggle but not the fx lines. Heck back in the day I could buy a fx 8300 of the price of an i3 6100. Are there any plants to compare them? Keep up the good work.
I will be comparing the FX-8350 as well as the FX-6300 to the i3-6100 as soon as I get the chance.
Thumbs down for a good and informative video with some false conclusions.
By limiting the resolution to 900p and only playing in low settings, you've created a bottleneck with the CPU!
Because the pc is always (!) going to be maxed out when you do not limit fps or something. And since this GTX970 is chilling at 900p low, the CPU is going to run as fast as it cans, mostly on 100%.
So all the "problems" you had with "only low graphics", stuttering, pop ins, TeamSpeak not running smoothly is all because of your CPU bottleneck.
By upping the settings to 1080p medium or high you would maxing out the GPU (what is intended on a gaming pc) which gives the CPU room to breathe!
This way, most of your problems (pop ins, stutter) would be gone and your actual conclusion would be different (eg not been able to use TeamSpeak properly).
All in all a smooth experience in 1080p medium or high settings is much more enjoyable and leads to a different opinion that this stutter at 900p low.
Just like stated at 1:10 of this video, the reason the resolution was limited to 900p and the settings were set to low is to avoid GPU bottlenecks. Using higher settings or resolution would make this a GPU test, not a CPU, so that is something you have to keep in mind.
Increasing the settings or locking the frame rate to a lower value to give the CPU some breathing room can indeed help reduce these issues, but only to an extent and unfortunately *not always.* You're also forgetting that by increasing the graphics settings the performance is going to drop, in some cases it's going to drop *significantly* to the point that the game isn't going to be any more playable compared to low settings. In some areas of the game you will see an improvement, in other more intensive situations the experience will mostly stay the same or will maybe even get worse compared to low settings. For example from 2:26-2:45 when I show The Division 2 results in areas where the i5 struggles, you can see that the GPU usage doesn't exceed 60%, while the frame rate is mostly hovering between 60-70 FPS. That means, to reduce those stutters and loading issues by making the GTX 970 reach 100% utilization, we're going to need to max out the settings to the point the frame rate drops to around 35-45 FPS. Locking the frame rate to about 45-50 FPS instead would be a better idea, which is something I mention at 2:37, but once again, it's only going to reduce those issues to an extent, they won't be eliminated entirely. Same goes for BFV (3:56), Warzone (4:20), SOTR (5:08) and PUBG (5:57) - whether you play at low settings or increase them/lock the frame rate to a lower value, you're not going to have a great experience. The CPU is the main issue here, Hasso, and there's not much that can be done here to really improve things, other than upgrading to an i7 of course.
Here's a link to a comparison I made of the FX-8350 and the i5-3470, which shows how useful extra cores or threads can be depending on the situation. I thought you'd find it interesting since I also tested some of these games using both low and high settings.
ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
Keep in mind that the graphics card that was used in the linked video is an EVGA GTX 1070. Here are timestamps for the same games that were tested in this video:
SOTR (Low and High) - 13:49
BFV - 15:03
Apex Legends (Low and High) 15:58
Division 2 - 17:08
Warzone 17:43
I bought this Cpu 5 days ago at 55€ with an Asus p8 h61 m lx 2 and the stock fan also.... My previous Cpu was a phenom x4 b55 3.3ghz, in my opinion I love this processor and for gaming is still a beast, a great upgrade against my phenom x4 b55, and I have a gtx 660 with the I5 3470
That's awesome! I just picked one up too along with a GTX 660ti. Great performance for 8 year old hardware!
Gg, i just bought a Xeon e3 1220v2 (i think it has practically the same performance) and an asus gtx 750 ti oc edition
30 for the CPU and 65 for the gpu
@@Kinkese mee too i pass from the I5 3470 to a xeon 1230v2
I have so many of those CPUs. I've decommissioned many Dell and Lenovo machines with these in them. They're great for one thing, imho, pfSense routers.
Do you have those CPUs with u?
If you maxed out gpu you will less cpu ussage,and there you will have much much better both fps and frametime,so its still good cpu :D
I have this processor. We're nearly in 2022 and the single core performance (which of course is critical) is well over half that of the highest single core performance of all desktop processors. Only tasks which require more multitasking performance are going to be severely lacking compared to processors with many more cores that are much newer. It holds up incredibly well considering it's age. You can definitely game on it, though you're not going to have the best experience money can buy. But it will be incredibly cheap in comparison. Claiming it's falling behind really is comparing it to the very best, and that only in the most extreme situations. Just turn a couple of options down from what you run with the top of the line and it'll be back up there again. Intel basically hasn't progressed much in the last decade, and you shouldn't compare a middle of he line chip from 10 years ago with the latest and greatest, although when you do this chip incredibly still hold's it's head up.
I didn't even compare it to modern processors. It just struggles in most modern games, and there's no way around it.
If you want to see a 10 year old CPU that actually holds up incredibly well, which is also the CPU that this i5 competed with, you can watch the comparison below.
ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
Do you think I can play WoW Shadowlands on low settings with this?
@@Komandie Easily! My budget rig with an i5 2500s and 7950 run it like a dream. I bet old core2duo and core2quad can still run WoW.
I heard quadcore not single core
if u want osu and minecraft or val sure who gives also csgo easy shit
My computer has this same processor and Gt 1030 and plays Roblox like a dream!
Will this run minecraft 1.18?
I have this with RX570 8gb and I can play most games in high settings - Far Cry, Assassin Creed, Doom etc.
Does it stutter at all or take long to load in graphics textures
@@jaimenbrunson1652 From the games I mentioned its been playing perfectly also Forza Horizon 4 I get around 80 frps in Ultra. No stutter or graphics load in. I have 16gb RAM aswell.
My twin
I am going to get a rx 560 with this prosesor im hoping it will get good fps in minecraft and play gta is it a good idea
What's the max resolution for the monitor which this processor supports ?
is upgrading from i3 2120 to i5 3470 worth?
Yes. You will notice it. Although modern games will struggle (not all of them), if you have no choice but i5 3470 go with it. An i7 3770 would be a better choice if you can find one for a decent price. I've upgraded an old optiplex 3010 from an i3 3220 to an i5 3470 and a gtx 970 g1 gaming and it's night and day. Also get all the ram you can, at the fatest speed your motherboard can take.
Edited for typo.
I wonder if stuterring can be helped by limiting FPS to 60 or 30. It's interesting that you had problems in SOTTR. I finished that game on my ancient Phenom II X4 965 and on DX12. I had stuterring when i arrived at new places, but once everything loaded the FPS was above 30 and no graphics errors were visible.
Yes, limiting the frame rate can help reduce the stuttering.
I'm sure those issues in SOTR would go away after running the benchmark for a few more times, yet I'd still use DX11 since it delivers a better performance than DX12 when using low core count CPUs.
It was a non-rescuable 20 fps with an athlon ii x2 620, 30+ fps with a 5 core phenom ii 960T
Hey guys if you are experiencing stutters then try limiting your fps to 30 or 60. This will almost stop them on 30 (saying from experience)
30 fps isn't playable at all unless single player
@@zumaky18 maybe you have skill issue then. In my old pc,it was so shit that it got 25-40 in valorant and i still aced many matches
He quiet now, lmao. Is there any way to make 30 FPS look smooth though? Consoles have done a really good job at making it look okay but on PC, it always look choppy.
I think there is something wrong with the GPU or something cuz i played all these games on RX470 and i5 3470 16gb 1600MHz ram, and they all ran well 1080p maxout or ultra 50 to 55fps back when I had that system
Could be related to this:
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@@RATechYT yeah that could be the issue
im still use this cpu because im too broke
I use it
i managed to overclock this cpu from 3.2 to 3.8ghz
Just bought this i5 and I'm amazed how well it holds up. But I must save some more money for an RX 470/570...
Price: 70 euros
i5 3470
2x4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz
120 GB Gigabyte SSD (from my old pc)
320 & 250 GB HDD (250 hdd from my old pc)
Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
Get a 570 or 580 bro
@Groovy not worth it, a good z77 is at least 50€
I’m only interested in playing football manager 22 on it
Would this be a good processor with Nvidia GTX 750ti and 8gb RAM?
Yup
Mine started glitching, stuttering like mad and blue screening. And memory sometimes didn't register, but swapping the modules fixed it. So I guess no? Unless they're 2014 and older titles.
Nice video. I'm using an i3 2120 (which has been great for 10 years) but considering swapping to a later LGA 1155 CPU- managed to find this for £30 so think I'll go for it!
Bro i also have i3 2120 . Thinking of upgrading to i5 3470 . So would u recommend?
@@valkx6204 hi mate, in the end I went for the i7 3770. I live in the UK and picked it up for £37, aside from the 3770k it's the best CPU for the chipset you can buy. Performance increase from the i3 2120 to the i7 3770 is crazy 👌 I can ultra BF4 around 70-80 frames how, before on low around 30-40. Well worth the upgrade 💪
My first Gaming PC had a i5 3570k and a R9 290x it was a beast back in 2015?
yeah I am currently rocking a i7 3770 and gtx 1050 ti.
The hyperthreading is keeping the cpu alive tho..
@@ahbabraufahmed3058 Love it!
I wanna play FNaF security breach I have this processor and a Nvidia gtx 1050 ti, can I play it? (It’s not online multiplayer, it’s story based)
can anyone tell me about that FPS ,GPU,CPU, & RAM Showing on screen App Name Plzzz
I use Intel Core i5-3470 PLUS GTX1050Ti
My school is selling their old Intel i5 computers, I wonder if they are sufficient to record quality game footage.
Is there a website to select your built and check if it can do gaming or video editing?
If you're asking about the i5-3470 in particular - yes, it can handle video editing, though expect the render times and playback to be worse than something like an i7-2600k or an FX-8350.
Still faster than my computer.
update your CPU
i overclocked mine to hit 3.5 to 3.7 and it runs smoothly, most of the time
I have this CPU paired with GTX 1060 3GB and thinking of upgrading. I don't play multiplayer games though.....hmmm...maybe i'll just upgrade anyway.
Yup we're rocking the same setup, I'm thinking of getting the i7 3770 as that's the optiplex build limit
I have no idea what any of this stuff means. Im just wondering why i cant enable virtualization in my bios
it would be nice if somebody told me how it performs with gta5?
You should have tested fortnite
just unpack the CPU, you will see way better performance.
What do u mean by unpack it
@@riczzi5948 you can use quick cpu, it will allow you to get better performance across all cores.
@@epiccloud9744 is it something I download? Like a file?
@@riczzi5948 yep just google quick cpu.
Still use it I played a bunch of games on it
I was excited to watch this and then bam 900p. Try testing in 1080p resolution too
1080p tests are going to be in the upcoming video.
8:00 lmao 😂
Turning on Vsync on will solve these problems
What if we pair it with gtx1650
It should work just fine.
I bought a refurbed HP Elite 8200 SFF, 8gig RAM with Windows 10 installed for £99 and expected the i5-2450 but was pleasantly surprised to find an i5-3470 in it 👍
i5 3470 CPUs are still plenty powerful even in 2022 and quite cheap provided you have an LGA1155 motherboard to go with the 3470 CPU. Even an i5 2500 are almost equivalent to the i7 2600 CPU and will work on the same LGA1155 motherboard. Once you get over 3.1 Ghz everything is pretty much the same and a good video card will make greatest amount of difference. I have the i7 2600 in my HP SFF 8200 with 14 GB of ram and a Quadro K600 and find this system does everything quite smoothly and video edits easily without any problem whatsoever.
@@happycat0411 almost have the same build but with a low profile gtx1050ti it can run most games really well depending on the setting
@@neogeo1670 Actually the 3470 is a great CPU that can be picked up easily for less than $20 today. There's really no difference once a person gets over 3.20 Ghz in terms of the CPU clock speed. I have a i7 2600 SFF HP computer and there is no difference whatsoever in a 3470 and the 2600. Too much fake artificial hype on the internet and UA-cam that tells people that newer is better. I still use 8 GB in my HP SFF and there is no difference whatsoever between 8 GB and 16 GB.
If you want more performance just use MSI Afterburner and you should be able to bump up your GPU clock speed around 5% ~ 8%.
@@happycat0411 i know its great i use it myself
i use that cpu
Hi, I have a question, I have a i7-870 and one friend is selling me One i5-3470 very cheaper, you think that is a good idea buying or not, I have actually a RX-580, Yes I know that i have a bottleneck but the price of the I5 its so low so i need a answer to buying or not thanks and good video
Personally I don't think it's worth the upgrade, since the i7 870 is a 4C/8T part while the i5-3470 is a 4C/4T one, so for the most part it would probably be a downgrade. I'd definitely save up for at least the 2600K or 3770K instead.
Thanks for take a time for answer me!, I forgot add that my actually motherboard only support (atleast the brand) 8Gb ddr3, and the max processor support its the i7-870... the motherboard of the i5 can support up to 32gb, and 2 slot pci-e maayyybe later i can upgrade the motherboard to a i7-3770 but i don't know anyway thanks i need to think about that... Have a good day!
can it run nba 2k21 smooth??
i have i5 3470 and rx570 playing all on ultras 0 freezes and 100fps;0
It's because you have a GPU bottleneck. Your CPU doesn't work as hard as it would with a higher end graphics card.
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niceee im gaming on a decade long cpu
can it play beamng?
Can you also post a link to the other parts that you have used (RAM, Motherboard etc.)
yeah, it's time for me to get an upgrade. I'm still using my 1030 - i5-3470 -16GB to stream games, and have to play them on low settings while recording. It has lasted a very long time though. excellent video.
it the same pc you're using rn ?
Is it good for Photoshop Editing ?
@@djaymigz98 I wouldn't say that it's good, but if you have a worse CPU and this is all you can afford, then it's not a bad option.
Which gpu you have paired?
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Xeon E3 12.. v3 IS better for lga 1155 great vidéo good job
Single cores dying sure.
Dual cores dying yeah probably.
But when quad cores just aren't enough anymore, what the heck is going on?
That's 4 times the cores compared to single core and it still isn't enough to keep up?
Now days you want a proper 6 core to just stay alive lol.
@@Blockah Quad cores are a thing of the past. They've been around since mid to late 2000s.
@@RATechYT Haha I bought an i5 3470 yesterday hopefully be here next week, will still be an upgrade compared to my laptop that is an i5-2520M :P (Dual Core running Windows 11)
@@Blockah Oh sure thing!
The answer is yes
970's are lot more powerful then you give them credit for, I can play witcher 3 high settings, 1080p with over 80+ fps on a Asus GTX 960
Not saying it's a bad graphics card or that it can't handle 1080p at high settings. The main point behind using a lower resolution & lowest settings is to prevent the GPU from creating a bottleneck.
It's 2022, and I'm still using an i5 3470. I doubt that will change until my CPU or motherboard fails. I haven' owned a high-spec PC, and am quite used to playing games at around 30 fps. I haven't bought any new releases in a while. [DIablo 3 was my most recent purchase.]
sorry i know im late. but may i ask what gpu u used with the i5 3470?
For playing pubg pc you need to enable steam lite version than it wont stutter at all i tried this on my laptop
It's silly. I got a i5-3450, MB with pcie gen 3, 16gb ddr3 1600Mhz, SSD and even with my old GTX 1060 and now with my new RTX 3060, I run RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, Farc Cry 5 and 6 and the assassin's Creed in high or ultra, 1080p and 60 fps Vsync and I don't sweating bullets. You're GPU need to be change.
If you only paid attention to the GPU usage in every single game, you'd understand that upgrading the graphics card would result in no performance uplift. Even with an RTX 4090 it would be about the same in most cases.
Using a Ryzen 5 2600 with almost every other component being the same (other than motherboard and RAM of course) results in significant performance uplift. Even the FX-8350 from 2012 can perform much better in some cases when using the same graphics card and RAM frequency. - ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
Just got an old work pc before I get a gaming pc and it has this in it
I have i5 3570 is good for single player gaming, i not play multiplayer, cpu is good but i like emulator for gaming emulator like cemu zelda n rpcs3 is not recomendation... Maybe time to upgrade to ryzen 3300x or i5 10400f
How does Cemu run for you with this processor?
55fps "playing a competitive title at such a low framerate is just not great" me who's upgrading from console
55fps? Sounds GREAT
say no to stock coolers. Intel Stock coolers are causing the FPS Spikes/Stutters. I chaned mine and whoa the massive difference in consistency. Stock coolers are only good to boot test and install OS. Not Play games.
I already replied to another similar comment you left on a different video of mine. The CPU is not throttling, so there's no reason for it to be underperforming. It still has a 50 degree headroom - using a better cooler won't make any difference other than lowering the temperature.
@@RATechYT The Temp sensor of the CPU die is broken because u used the stock cooler, or perhaps u got it defective. Stock cooler will cause Temp spikes upwards of 91C during gaming. When a CPU is utilized above 80% it clearly means it wil cross the 90c mark and what u could be seeing is permanent thermal throttle.
Fun fact the Temps on a n old i5 cross 80C during bootup using a stock cooler thereby throttling immediately to settle at 60c lock.
Ditch the Stock cooler, CPU will loose the ability permanently if the die is overcooked for a long time.
@@jashsylde8136 No offense, but these are some of the strangest comments I've ever got.
I don't just get these parts and make videos about them immediately. Before I do the testing, I make sure that these parts perform properly by checking the temperatures, clock speeds, comparing my results with others results and so on, and this i5 performs *exactly* like it should, I don't have a single doubt about that. The temperature sensor isn't broken, the maximum temperature of this thing is 70 degrees celsius while using Intel Burn Test (in a 20 degree room temperature), which is right around what other people are getting online, and the clock speed stays right where it should under full load. It simply never drops down to 1.6 GHz, which is where it tends to drop when it throttles, and there's not a single game where this i5 drops to that clock speed while playing. The results that this CPU gets in benchmarks such as Cinebench R15, Blender, Corona etc are always identical every run and match the ones online, I spend hours making dozens of runs in these programs making sure that the results are accurate, and these benchmarks tax the CPU much more than gaming. Had this CPU been throttling, the scores would get lower and lower with every run, which never happened during testing, so if it doesn't drop clock speeds in stress tests and benchmarks, it sure as hell won't be throttling even in the most intensive games out there.
Hey, I've been using this processor for a while now and I can say there are multiple fixes to the issues shown in the video, one major one is turning down graphics settings and limiting the game to 30-45 FPS, and it works fine for me, I do have an' upgraded rig but I made a Guest Rig using a Dell Optiplex 7050 and putting in a RX 6400 and I've had many guests over who do not complain about the FPS when I have a ton of spare parts and could just build a better spare rig, I think the novelty of the Guest Rig is mainly why I haven't replaced it yet, and think it'll stay for years to come, I've even let people rent out the room for a couple weeks and let them use it as a complimentary PC and they don't mind it either as it runs the games and apps the people needed perfectly when the settings are adjusted accordingly!
I do mention that a frame cap will help, but it's just a band aid on the problem rather than a fix. If the game runs at 60 FPS but occasionally drops to 20, you need to limit the frame rate to 20 to not have those stutters, there's simply no way of keeping 60 FPS and completely eliminating the stuttering. This is an old quad core chip, so these results are normal.
@@RATechYT I mean that is true, Potato Graphics Mods exist for tons of games now, and whilst I do recommend them, I don’t recommend them on games like A.o.T 2: Final Battle, as the potato mod for that game makes it so enemies only load in if they are 25M close to the player instead of the standard 50M and if they choose to prep for a grab attack, with how fast medium-high rank grapples pull you in, you cannot dodge in time.
Also, do you know how well this chip pairs on its own when playing titles like outlast, as I cannot find any websites that allow me to just choose performance off a cpu alone and always requires a paired up GPU, and even than idk what HD Graphics the chip uses, as I may be good with tech, I never learned how to check for it.
@@FinalBossOfCanada I don't think there are a lot of games that can be run off of the iGPU of the i5-3470 at a playable frame rate. It's most likely equal to the lowest end dedicated GPU of it's time, something like a GT 610, so if the minimum GPU requirements of a game are higher than that, then you won't be able to play it.
@@RATechYT ah, fair enough, fair enough, due to I am thinking about upgrading my father’s PC itself since he uses the same chip as my guest PC, as well as a GTX 960 still for modern gaming, he even overclocked it to run it, despite it crashing constantly, he still tries, and I plan to give him a good PC Upgrade for his next birthday.
The problem isn’t that it’s a quad core. The problem is that it’s 9 years old. A 12th gen i3 has a pretty big advantage over it.
The 12th gen i3 is a 4C/8T part, while this i5 is 4C/4T.
Does a p8p67 deluxe support this CPU?
Can it run gta 5 with ge force 1660 gpu
my speakers are having problems can someone sumerize?
I went from a i7 2600s to an i5 3470 that I parted out from a tossed out PC (along with a 500gb SSD and GTX 750 ti!!)
Also notice latency spikes in COD4 MWR. Wondering if the older (Sandy Bridge) i7 would fair better with it's 4 cores and 8 threads?
Hmmm.
Seems plausible.
(Looks for thermal paste)
Ha!
The Sandy Bridge i7 would definitely perform significantly better.
@@RATechYT thanks. That's what I was also thinking.
Cool video
What about i5 4570?
Performance is going to be pretty much the same.
Yes i Play in this but i bought a New PC i Just wait For the new one
Mee too ,i braught a i 5 3470, i think it Will be nice to me
My old pentium 2010 2.8Ghz killd me while gaming
Which is the best garapics card i can choose without bottlenecking??? Any suggestions guyz....
And 1 thing also , where did we get these h 77 motherboards , am searching one of those....😉
yo man u should get a ryzen 5 1600x cpu and gtx 1060 ti gpu and 16gb ram its not that expensive and can run any game
@@jayhogan7750i like your suggestion thanks bro, but i already spend some money in i 5 3470 to buy ☹️
Will you pls suggest me a gpu that this processor can handle nicely without bottlenecking, and I can use in future update
I kind of screwed myself over I am upgrading a old system I only had a budget of $80 for a CPU I bought the CPU and then this video gets uploaded and then almost no graphics card will stop the stuttering guys do not buy the CPU I do not recommend it at all
honestly, none of these games look playable. Frametimes are so bad, it turns them into a choppy mess. Reminds me of the early 2000s when I was stuck with a PII 333 MHz (replaced it in 2004)
paired the same processor with 1070ti,,never bottlenecks.
non-k version?
It all depends on the games you play and graphics settings you use.
Can you compare this cpu with i7-2600k on both stock (not overclocked)?
I might if I get my hands on one.
I have this cpu but , i7 3770 is better than i5 3470
I was interested to pair this CPU with RX 6500xt or RX 6400. They both have the performance equal to 1650 but at lower price. Is it okay or it's gonna heavily bottleneck the pc? Or is the cpu gonna prevent the gpu from releasing it's full power?
I'm aware of the Rx 6500xt & Rx 6400 pcie lane but these card are the most worth of the money in my country. Everything is still overprice
maybe go second hand?
@@danb4900 the second hand market is ridiculous. A weaker card is more expensive than rx 6500 xt. Not only that, you also don't have a one year waranty. Very risky purchase for a weaker card.
I wonder how the 1090t vs the 3470 would perform.
Good Stuff.
I'd love to see this teamed with a 2060 or 3060. Do you, after all that time, remember what storage you used? sATA SSD? M.2 on adapter?
I used one SSD for the OS, another SSD for the heavier games and a hard drive for lighter ones.
I’m using this cpu, running at 4.2ghz. 16gb ram and a 2060. Perfect budget build. 500gb ssd.
I have i5 3470 oc to 3800 mhz and i play without any fps drops or others lags to bad tahta i didnt play all the game that you test but in pubg i have stable 100 to 140 fps on 1080p in warzone 70 to 100 fps in 720p asassins creed unity 1080p 60 to 90 fps and metro exodus 50 to 70 fps 720p so idk why you have fps drops or freezes i dont have that lol
Apparently it was a bad update in PUBG that used to cause the stuttering. Now it's fixed.
@@RATechYT still i think the textures or npc load bug it was not the cpu fault ( i might be wrong i am not a expert tho xd just saying what my expirence was with this cpu) i had the same load bugs in the past but after upgrade from hdd to ssd its all stop and now all works perfectly fine as it should be (sorry for my bad eng still learning bro haha)
@@YunoExile It wasn't a CPU problem in PUBG, cause the game runs pretty good on the i5 after the latest update. When it comes to other games though, issues still persist.
@@RATechYT sure i dont hace such a problem good for me😂💪
I have a I5-3470, but my apex doesnt run like that, is there anything wrong with my i5?
Does it run worse?
@@RATechYT yeah, Usually when i load apex, It wont even move the screen, if i goto store i need to wait 9 seconds to load, and i usually get 10-25fps
@@Shion-cr9sl What are your specs?
Just so you know, after testing the game a bit more using the i5, I came to the conclusion that it doesn't always perform good. In some instances it does alright, but in others it tends to stutter quite a bit. I talk about that in this video at 15:57: ua-cam.com/video/qCFeWb4skhE/v-deo.html
@@RATechYT I5-3470
Foxconn H61MX
8Gb Ram
@@Shion-cr9sl What about the graphics card? Do you just have a single stick of 8 GB of RAM?
Can it run valheim without a graphiccard?
Not sure about that. Most likely not.
Thank You.
I have a desktop using ivy bridge cpu by intel 🙂
Did you use external capture card to record all of the game footage? If not, can you give a details for your recording settings?
I use Shadowplay's Instant Replay feature to record all of my gameplay footage. The recordings are done using the in-game resolution, which is 1080p, @60 FPS.
@@RATechYT oh ok, thankss
It is still an amazingly surprising chip. Still using it.
ok what is a cpu test with out a csgo ?
CS:GO is a game that runs on a ten year old potato.
@@RATechYTI just think that in cpu benchmarks should mainly contain cpu intensive games like for example competetive games that have been made to prioritize performance over quality.
and yes difference between 100 and 220 is important if you are of corse playing competetive games at higher level
@@obycajnyneznalec1237 I mean, this CPU (and pretty much any mid-range processor that released after 2012) runs CS:GO so good, that there's no point of even testing it. Obviously it's not going to deliver 300 FPS constantly, but 150+ frames, which is what this i5 is capable of, is definitely more than enough for the game to be playable.
Besides, the point of the video is to show how this CPU performs in modern titles.
What videocard you used with?
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For how much could I sell this pc?
I5 3470 8gb ddr3 with gtx 1060 3gb
my country 1060 3gb about 347$ dollar for it
@@GameOver-wq8jm thankx i was thinking around that price too.
I play on the CPU with GTX 1080 works well
Can you run genshin impact on max settings with 1.0
iwant a pc from philippines