I believe the reason for the massive amounts of detail on it is directly tied to where it comes from: a source book for the TTRPG. I believe the idea was to essentially have it be the "end boss" of a campaign, where you have to navigate through the rooms, being careful with where you go and utilizing the exact layout to blind and cripple pieces in a specific order to prevent the crew from running after you too quickly. It's a really nice lot of detail though, and I love it when ships get this kind of love, it makes them feel more real and easier to imagine what they'd be like.
So the Star Wars version of the Tarrasque. I'm familiar with the ship from all my time playing Star Was strategy games and the mods for those games, but I never realized the threat it presented since most of those games/mods allowed you to drop ships in anywhere at any time.
Actually, the Torpedo Sphere was introduced into SW lore by WEG in their SWRPG adventure "Black Ice", where a Rebel group (the players) have to hijack a massive container ship (the "Black Ice") and steer her on a programmed route into a Torpedo Sphere bombarding a rebel aligned planet into submission. But that torpedo sphere looked like a mini DS, not like this design here. There were also no deck plans of the Torpedo Sphere provided as the adventure didn't planed for the players to board it.
It doesn't mean that. The atmospheric speed is only there because the old RPG supplements used that because the now standard MGLT for in space speed wasn't around yet. The ISD cannot enter atmosphere in the EU continuity either.
It's not about the ratio of torpedoes, I believe fighter/bomber/cruiser torpedoes are completely different tiers So the torpedo sphere carrying 8000 cruiser or even bigger torpedoes makes it terrifying
The original printed function of the torpedo sphere in the RPG books was to overpower planetary shields prior to invasion. The idea was that planetary shields would absorb turbolaser fire and would recharge before a standard ISD could recharge its turbolaser batteries after a sustained barrage. Where the Torpedo Sphere succeeded is that it would locate the planet's shield generator and target the facility with the turbolaser batteries. Then, it would fire a barrage of torpedoes at the planet, which would overload and collapse the shield. While the shields were down, the turbolasers would open up on the generators and eliminate the facility. Now since the shield generator facility was gone, the Empire could continue the siege and invade at will.
Imagine one of the B1s accidentally sets off a torpedo inside the ship and the whole thing chain react detonates. Imagine having to explain that to your Moff.
Every time I see one of these damned things in EaW Thrawn's Revenge, I'm spamming the hell outta point defense corvettes and focus firing with all my star destroyers. That thing ALWAYS dies first otherwise it will rip my fleet apart. Also props to Fractal, he always does good work Ah so it was made by the same company that made the Strike-class? The Strike-class is a good and versatile ship. You should totally do a video covering it
1:30 The thing about the Death Star being a siege platform is that it was meant to be able to break the extremely powerful planetary shields of heavily fortified worlds. Alderran was literally Tarkin being his usual sadistic self and using overkill for no reason.
1:37: That actually has good precedent. During sieges and other bloody battles it was common to threaten devastating consequences if the enemy didn't surrender. Also on pirate raids they frequently did the same thing, to encourage enemy ships to just surrender.
As an Eriadu Authority main in Thrawn's Revenge, this video makes me giddy. The EA is the only faction out of all the warlords to have access to Torpedo Spheres. Pair that with an Allegiance Battlecruiser to soak up hits from enemy ships and you can pretty much challenge any fleet you come across. Even the Tartan, the best point defense ship in the mod, can't keep up with the sheer volume of heavy proton torpedoes the sphere dishes out. Even SSD aren't safe from the devastating power of a Torpedo Sphere.
5:02, This scene with all those different weapons attacking the Imperious Class Star Destroyer. It’s literally a “KILL IT NOW,” and “WHY WON’T IT DIE” moment.
Could you imagine if this thing was loaded with nukes instead of torpedoes? You could actually decimate a planet for and kill all life there decades, if not centuries, by unloading just a few of those missile tubes
Very wasteful if you're turning a planet into a irradiated wasteland. you'd possibly only do that once for a demonstration of what you're willing to do as part of scare tactics but dozens or hundreds nah. definitely not if you're hoping to rule the galaxy not rule over the ashes of one
@@711desmondTechnically even fighter sized proton torpedoes have kiloton level yields. They just somehow shape and contain the explosion in a small area. And the Old Republic era Mandalorians did use nukes.
while not as visually pleasing as some say i think the basic shape in legends makes more sense for it also i thinking Ramming other ships into it being a means to take it out is because its probably the fastest and easiest way to do so given its filled with enough ordinance to level whole fleets very quickly even if in a fight with a Dreadnought, it will take a while to do substantional damage to it where as it will be putting a lot of holes in that dreadnought
First, The B-1s mentioned in the RPG guides IS NOT the same droids as the battledroids from the prequels. It's the same thing as how the US Navy had two very different fighter aircraft designated as the F4. Second, that gravity weapon on the torpedo sphere would be absolutely devastating on a super star destroyer built for stealth.
yeah it is pretty much a semi practical alternative to Tarkin's follies. 1 it is relatively mass producible and low cost for something its size, 2. It leaves a devastated but still livable planet, 3. It uses proven, reliable and widely available off the shelf technology, 4. Its super weapon can be used for non military purposes, 5. Destroying this thing reliably requires either an oversized fleet or sacrificing the largest grades of capital ships. 6. You only need to escort this with gunships, corvettes and frigate level craft to protect against hostile starfighters, bombers and gunships as the mass amount of torpedoes this carry can easily wipe out any medium to large capital starship in a very short amount of time, 7. It stills deliver that fear factor whilst being practical for those high intensity engagements against peer and near peer opponents.
The yield of the capital ship's torpedo are large, they just never say by how much. That is way they take up so much space. It could be 1 CST is 100 or 1000 bomber's torpedo.
Hey get my Armoured core out of my Star wars , but seriously the redesign by fractal sponge dose remind me a lot of Baltaus (don't know if I spelt that right) from AC 6 with its large arching rings with missiles stored in them. BTW the original design looks like someone sat on the Deathstar .
The torpedoes on starfighters and the big heavy torps used by capital ships are NOT in any way comparable. The torps delivered by a venator or a torpedo sphere are a couple of orders of magnitude more powerful than the ones delivered by star fighters. The star fighters can deliver them with precision and in great numbers and at such close range they are inside the outer shields, but they are not the ship smashing heavy torps of a capital ship.
What an absolutely sick design. I wish we got to see these things on the big screen or at least in a larger role. These are undoubtedly some of the coolest things in Star Wars, alongside the likes of the Death Spiral and the JK-13.
Take off the internal sphere and reduce the number of rings from 3 to 2, and you have the space station where they tried Captain Lincoln F Sternn on Heavy Metal (1981).
Actually it came from a 1989 Sourcebook from West End Games - The Imperial Sourcebook. I don't think it's obscure as I see references from various points even today in Disney shows. I can see why the design is the way it is for the RPG (underrated and a whole lot of fun - I'm willing to run a campaign to anyone local to Toronto ;) ). I will say the one you show in this video is BOSS - it's gorgeous and if I do run a game where this is used, I'll used that one.
Looks like a great way to bankrupt your empire while also massively overcompensating. We have a massive warship that fires some of the more expensive munitions in the setting at a rapid rate and, since that's not enough, we also put a literal gravity cannon on it besides. Can you imagine trying to re-arm this thing? Or what one faulty torpedo could do if it touched off in the magazine? I'm all for bombastic, but it still needs to make some sense (preferably "common").
You don’t typically want torpedos fired in tight volleys as that makes them more vulnerable to point defense systems. Granted I don’t think I’ve ever seen point defense on any canon Star Wars vehicle so who knows.
Fractal Sponge's design makes much more sense if you consider the effects of an explosion chain reaction. It would probably destroy only one of the rings, compared to a massive hole in the surface of the closed shell.
Just googled it, proton torpedoes are several hundred times more potent than the bombs that hit hiroshima and nagasaki with yields going into the hundreds of megatons, so a torpedoe sphere is pretty much a ship that can wipe planets clean
Cost of one salvo of Torpedos: 2 ISDs probably. Would have more sense to be a Mass Driver of some sorts, fill up at an asteroid field, and use that as cheap ammo. Or do it like Thrawn did with Coruscant, just deploy a lot of tropedos around the planet for the siege (well Thrawn used a few with claoking tech, but you get the idea).
Its also a specialist weapon. Think of it as like the Javelin missile. It isn't there to knock out buildings or a technical or even heck just for day to day use. It is there for its specific job of erasing heavy armor. The sphere is the same in that regard. Sure it can fight fleets or do normal bombardment. But its job is to knock out heavily fortified worlds really rapidly. We are talking worlds likely able to hold for months or years. A fleet of ISD would realistically be needed to lock them down. So likely the sphere is a cheaper alternative just not directly. On asteroids and mass drivers the reasoning is simple. For the former they are in Star Wars even with the cloak are weapons of disruption IE they make life hard. While mass drivers have the issue that they seem to be rarely used in general while also having more difficulty in doing a time on target barrage (the rapid hit bit).
@@spartanonxy Guess the Torpedos are for show, most tubes are empty or have no relaod, and it´s the grav weapon which does the job. Maybe the Tie Fighter and Co games are to much stuck in my head, but even with an power upgrade for torpedoes it sound wasteful. not that strong compared to similiar superweapons, high failure rate with some many single small units. People complain about weakspot which is 2m wide on a giant sphere... Intercept a few torpedos directly at lunch and watch the chain reaction. Wasn´t there a SSD which was made to surrender due many many torpedos launcher locking on (some where fake or installed on freighter?) was it the Lusankaya ? I could imagine so many Torpedos as a Super Dreadnought Killer.
@@paristeta5483 Ok so first off the gravity weapon is rare and only found on a few spheres. So no they have torpedoes and reloads for them. Next there are actually canonically more then one yield of proton torpedo. Capital ships tend to like to carry some for of assault class. Which are supposedly much stronger. Next Star Wars weapons have a very low failure rate as a general rule (it does happen in the canon but rare). And last chain detonations like you described is not really a thing. There is chain detonations but they aren't really like that.
Maiyn, you are Exquisite. Wow. That is really entertaining and enlightening. Such detail, I look forward to digging around your posts. Damn, this is just great!
I mean, would it really be 25 Droids total? Could it not be like, 25 Droids per section? I doubt the Empire would count them as part of the compliment.
so littler space with a metric FUCKTON of buzz droids? talk about fucking terrifying, even Thrawn would shit his pants at that sight. that's potentially BILLIONS of those little shits just pissed all over the battlespace.
In fairness, Accutronic's B1 Worker Drone shares a similar name but is vastly different in both form and function from Baktoid's B1 series of Battle Droids.
Since there were only six in the Empire, and they were all stationed to known locations, so the Rebels would have been able to keep watch on them. If one of them suddenly left right before their attack on the DS2 that would have been too much of a coincidence.
far more practical than the death star because you can actually pull the trigger to make good on your threats without reducing all of a planet's resources to a rapidly expanding cloud of plasma and dust
I would like to think this transforms, opening from the "olive" form for protection to the "angel" form as it prepares to fire. I know a transformation like this wouldn't be typical for SW, but there are plenty of (smaller) ships that rotate a significant part of their structure after they take off, and it does seem a bit warranted to not always have that amount of ammo merely protected by a single shield generator. Obviously the designers of this vessel know even the strongest shields can be defeated. Plus it would be cool to see the six arms "bursting" through the thick outer armor as they extend outward, bringing the full compliment of tubes to be available for near-simultaneous firing.
It would be a lot higher as fighters fire a different scale torpedo. Actually the book you are referencing would note the scales as capital then star fighter then walker then speeder then person. Damage from one to the next was normally 10x more with accuracy being reduced when a higher scale was shooting at a lower scale. So the amount of damage this could produce had no equal outside of a Death Star..
Torpedo Spheres exist so that Star Wars D6 tabtetop RPG players could, "blow up the Death Star," without causing a lore problem. These are substitute targets, six of them if I recall, that your rebel players can score a huge blow to the Empire by destroying one, but let the movie character of Luke, Han, Chewie, and Wedge (and unnamed Y-wing pilot) get the credit for the actual first Death Star. Personally, I do not like the art of the version that is a hollow sphere with three rings around it. I prefer the basic egg shaped one because it is a mini-Death Star substitute.
1:10 That's the Throne of God. It appears everywhere in media as references and... Other reasons. It doesn't look exactly like that, but it's something like it
coming from the thrawn revenge mod and playing as the new republic the torpedo sphere is a pain to fight against special early on when the nr only have mc80b and liberty as thier main capitalships
Death Star was a siege ship and a diplomatic ship rolled into one. It's a shame it did not lean into it more by being named something like "Treatymaker" or sth.
Going to guess that Torpedoes also had a long enough range to sit the sphere out of range of planetary ion cannons. Because id imagine any planet with a strong shield also had a bunch of those ion cannons from Empire Strikes Back. On that note wouldnt planets have massive STO defense batteries that could out range any orbital weapon and just smoke a fleet in orbit? Firing macross missile massacres of torpedoes as well out through the shields with impunity.
I used oe of thse in a TTRG game campaign to terrify the party and force them to find a way to deal with it other than jumping in their x-wings. all that detail made it possible to play mu;ltiple sessions with the group infiltrating and sabotaging the ship.
Remember the vong' were always the danger the emperor saw coming for the galaxy well ge saw their void in the force coming, all of the fleet ships were part of the emperors plan for combating the vong'
I doubt the Torpedo Sphere has so view torpedoes per tube as a star fighter, as it is not limited to the same degree. After all, it´s at the size of a capital ship, a very large one, in fact. So i would expect it to carry AT MINIMUM 20 torpedoes per launcher, possibly even more in case of extended missions. But that´s just me as i would think when designing one myself.
I believe the reason for the massive amounts of detail on it is directly tied to where it comes from: a source book for the TTRPG. I believe the idea was to essentially have it be the "end boss" of a campaign, where you have to navigate through the rooms, being careful with where you go and utilizing the exact layout to blind and cripple pieces in a specific order to prevent the crew from running after you too quickly. It's a really nice lot of detail though, and I love it when ships get this kind of love, it makes them feel more real and easier to imagine what they'd be like.
So the Star Wars version of the Tarrasque. I'm familiar with the ship from all my time playing Star Was strategy games and the mods for those games, but I never realized the threat it presented since most of those games/mods allowed you to drop ships in anywhere at any time.
Actually, the Torpedo Sphere was introduced into SW lore by WEG in their SWRPG adventure "Black Ice", where a Rebel group (the players) have to hijack a massive container ship (the "Black Ice") and steer her on a programmed route into a Torpedo Sphere bombarding a rebel aligned planet into submission. But that torpedo sphere looked like a mini DS, not like this design here. There were also no deck plans of the Torpedo Sphere provided as the adventure didn't planed for the players to board it.
That’s no Pokéball, it’s a space station.
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See! It shoots green bolts of death not red bolts after near death!!!
The atmospheric speed is most terrifying stat because it means that thing can enter atmosphere.
It doesn't mean that. The atmospheric speed is only there because the old RPG supplements used that because the now standard MGLT for in space speed wasn't around yet.
The ISD cannot enter atmosphere in the EU continuity either.
Fractal Sponge always makes top-tier ship designs, I pretty much consider his work cannon regardless if Disney or Lucas do or not.
I agree. It's also awesome to consider his contributions to Halo. After all, he's the one who originally came up with the Infinity's design.
If Lucasfilm plagiarizes it, its canon.
@@thecatfather857wow I didn’t know he’s done work for Halo! I share Gritimo's same mentality when it comes to the ship designs from Chokepoint Games
It's not about the ratio of torpedoes, I believe fighter/bomber/cruiser torpedoes are completely different tiers
So the torpedo sphere carrying 8000 cruiser or even bigger torpedoes makes it terrifying
yeah like comparing a nuke armed tomahawk missile to a trident MIRV. just utterly different scales.
The original printed function of the torpedo sphere in the RPG books was to overpower planetary shields prior to invasion. The idea was that planetary shields would absorb turbolaser fire and would recharge before a standard ISD could recharge its turbolaser batteries after a sustained barrage. Where the Torpedo Sphere succeeded is that it would locate the planet's shield generator and target the facility with the turbolaser batteries. Then, it would fire a barrage of torpedoes at the planet, which would overload and collapse the shield. While the shields were down, the turbolasers would open up on the generators and eliminate the facility. Now since the shield generator facility was gone, the Empire could continue the siege and invade at will.
Death Star:
Rebels & Imperials: *I sleep*
Torpedo Sphere:
Rebels & Imperials: *completely wakes up*
Imagine one of the B1s accidentally sets off a torpedo inside the ship and the whole thing chain react detonates. Imagine having to explain that to your Moff.
Every time I see one of these damned things in EaW Thrawn's Revenge, I'm spamming the hell outta point defense corvettes and focus firing with all my star destroyers. That thing ALWAYS dies first otherwise it will rip my fleet apart.
Also props to Fractal, he always does good work
Ah so it was made by the same company that made the Strike-class? The Strike-class is a good and versatile ship. You should totally do a video covering it
I made the mistake of attackign one once without a lot of point defense corvette...lost half my fleet to the damn thing.
5:50 Not all (proton) torpedoes are created equal.
1:30 The thing about the Death Star being a siege platform is that it was meant to be able to break the extremely powerful planetary shields of heavily fortified worlds. Alderran was literally Tarkin being his usual sadistic self and using overkill for no reason.
This is the first time I've seen this ship and it's absolutely amazing. This thing is much better than a death star
...Honestly, I think Death Star was designed by Lucas to be worse than everything...
*Because what ISN'T more practical than it?*
Seeing all those torpedo bays launching in sequence from front to back would be a *Real* Death Blossom experience!
1:37: That actually has good precedent. During sieges and other bloody battles it was common to threaten devastating consequences if the enemy didn't surrender. Also on pirate raids they frequently did the same thing, to encourage enemy ships to just surrender.
As an Eriadu Authority main in Thrawn's Revenge, this video makes me giddy. The EA is the only faction out of all the warlords to have access to Torpedo Spheres. Pair that with an Allegiance Battlecruiser to soak up hits from enemy ships and you can pretty much challenge any fleet you come across. Even the Tartan, the best point defense ship in the mod, can't keep up with the sheer volume of heavy proton torpedoes the sphere dishes out. Even SSD aren't safe from the devastating power of a Torpedo Sphere.
Just imagining all those torpedo tubes firing in this absolutely massive Itano Circus of warheads screaming towards your fleet
just imagine if those were coral infused torpedoes. the screaming would be hourendous and bone chilling
Tbh i prefer the big EGG myself. I think it fits the design language better.
The fractal sponge design looks more mass effect or halo forerunner even. Not imperial
@@Briskyyyor as others have said, Armored Core
Looks Like the Prototype before the Armor was placed
The egg is the superior design. Certainly more imperial, and far more practical.
5:02, This scene with all those different weapons attacking the Imperious Class Star Destroyer. It’s literally a “KILL IT NOW,” and “WHY WON’T IT DIE” moment.
Could you imagine if this thing was loaded with nukes instead of torpedoes? You could actually decimate a planet for and kill all life there decades, if not centuries, by unloading just a few of those missile tubes
Given what cylon Battlestars were able to do id agree
Very wasteful if you're turning a planet into a irradiated wasteland. you'd possibly only do that once for a demonstration of what you're willing to do as part of scare tactics but dozens or hundreds nah. definitely not if you're hoping to rule the galaxy not rule over the ashes of one
Depending on yield proton torpedoes could have the same effect
@@711desmondTechnically even fighter sized proton torpedoes have kiloton level yields. They just somehow shape and contain the explosion in a small area.
And the Old Republic era Mandalorians did use nukes.
@@Maks-r2eThe colonial ships were called battlestars. The Cylon ships were known as basestars.
while not as visually pleasing as some say
i think the basic shape in legends makes more sense for it
also i thinking Ramming other ships into it being a means to take it out is because its probably the fastest and easiest way to do so given its filled with enough ordinance to level whole fleets very quickly
even if in a fight with a Dreadnought, it will take a while to do substantional damage to it where as it will be putting a lot of holes in that dreadnought
First, The B-1s mentioned in the RPG guides IS NOT the same droids as the battledroids from the prequels. It's the same thing as how the US Navy had two very different fighter aircraft designated as the F4.
Second, that gravity weapon on the torpedo sphere would be absolutely devastating on a super star destroyer built for stealth.
I feel like this is better than a death star in every way.
yeah it is pretty much a semi practical alternative to Tarkin's follies. 1 it is relatively mass producible and low cost for something its size, 2. It leaves a devastated but still livable planet, 3. It uses proven, reliable and widely available off the shelf technology, 4. Its super weapon can be used for non military purposes, 5. Destroying this thing reliably requires either an oversized fleet or sacrificing the largest grades of capital ships. 6. You only need to escort this with gunships, corvettes and frigate level craft to protect against hostile starfighters, bombers and gunships as the mass amount of torpedoes this carry can easily wipe out any medium to large capital starship in a very short amount of time, 7. It stills deliver that fear factor whilst being practical for those high intensity engagements against peer and near peer opponents.
I'm sure it seems scary until the planet shoots back.
The yield of the capital ship's torpedo are large, they just never say by how much. That is way they take up so much space. It could be 1 CST is 100 or 1000 bomber's torpedo.
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Side cannon always has the coolest stuff like The Tarkin and this beasty 🤣
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The Torpedo Sphere is one truly dangerous weapon. Just one can shift a battle!
Hey get my Armoured core out of my Star wars , but seriously the redesign by fractal sponge dose remind me a lot of Baltaus (don't know if I spelt that right) from AC 6 with its large arching rings with missiles stored in them.
BTW the original design looks like someone sat on the Deathstar .
Thanks for making this , your content always satisfies.
The Venator had four tubes with 16 heavy starship grade torpedoes, not just small like on a fighter !
The torpedoes on starfighters and the big heavy torps used by capital ships are NOT in any way comparable. The torps delivered by a venator or a torpedo sphere are a couple of orders of magnitude more powerful than the ones delivered by star fighters. The star fighters can deliver them with precision and in great numbers and at such close range they are inside the outer shields, but they are not the ship smashing heavy torps of a capital ship.
I will be running "Black Ice" sometime in spring. Can't wait to play it and experience the torpedo spehre.
First time I see this design for the Torpedo Sphere
Looks very cursed
It would be one of Megatron’s favorite weapon.
What an absolutely sick design. I wish we got to see these things on the big screen or at least in a larger role. These are undoubtedly some of the coolest things in Star Wars, alongside the likes of the Death Spiral and the JK-13.
Huh.. wonder if the gravity weapon could be reconfigured to act in a similar way to the interdiction field of other ships
Take off the internal sphere and reduce the number of rings from 3 to 2, and you have the space station where they tried Captain Lincoln F Sternn on Heavy Metal (1981).
Actually it came from a 1989 Sourcebook from West End Games - The Imperial Sourcebook.
I don't think it's obscure as I see references from various points even today in Disney shows. I can see why the design is the way it is for the RPG (underrated and a whole lot of fun - I'm willing to run a campaign to anyone local to Toronto ;) ).
I will say the one you show in this video is BOSS - it's gorgeous and if I do run a game where this is used, I'll used that one.
In a fantasy setting with the highest number of super cool ships, legendary, iconic designs.. the Torpedo Sphere just falls flat
Would be sweet if we saw one of these in Ahsoka season 2. I could see Thrawn of all people knowing where one is.
I would love to see that, but I'm pretty sure Commandant Hux has all of them
Looks like a great way to bankrupt your empire while also massively overcompensating. We have a massive warship that fires some of the more expensive munitions in the setting at a rapid rate and, since that's not enough, we also put a literal gravity cannon on it besides. Can you imagine trying to re-arm this thing? Or what one faulty torpedo could do if it touched off in the magazine? I'm all for bombastic, but it still needs to make some sense (preferably "common").
Sounds like the designer really loved to study declassified blueprints of decomissioned naval warships.
Hey, they actually remembered to put a bathroom on the ship for once!
Fun fact, AV7’s fire proton torpedoes.
I think the Venator has at least 6 AV7’s
the B-1 in this seems to be a different droid (suction/magnetic fingers and a 3rd leg), this might have been made pre episode 1
It was.
That thing in a fight like Reach helping out the humans would be cool AF
1 torpedo sphere with 2 Lucrehulk Battleship escorts can easily take down a Super Star Destroyer
You don’t typically want torpedos fired in tight volleys as that makes them more vulnerable to point defense systems. Granted I don’t think I’ve ever seen point defense on any canon Star Wars vehicle so who knows.
Fractal Sponge's design makes much more sense if you consider the effects of an explosion chain reaction. It would probably destroy only one of the rings, compared to a massive hole in the surface of the closed shell.
"lame lump" is accurate - the new design looks super cool tho
Firing the Torpedo sphere: 4 to 10 seconds. Reloading the Torpedo Sphere....(if it was reloaded "manually" like the Buratino :D :D )
Just googled it, proton torpedoes are several hundred times more potent than the bombs that hit hiroshima and nagasaki with yields going into the hundreds of megatons, so a torpedoe sphere is pretty much a ship that can wipe planets clean
Ok the B-1 Worker Droid is a load lifter class 5 from AccuTronics not the B-1 battle droid class 4 from Baktoid Combat Automata.
Cost of one salvo of Torpedos: 2 ISDs probably.
Would have more sense to be a Mass Driver of some sorts, fill up at an asteroid field, and use that as cheap ammo.
Or do it like Thrawn did with Coruscant, just deploy a lot of tropedos around the planet for the siege (well Thrawn used a few with claoking tech, but you get the idea).
Its also a specialist weapon. Think of it as like the Javelin missile. It isn't there to knock out buildings or a technical or even heck just for day to day use. It is there for its specific job of erasing heavy armor. The sphere is the same in that regard. Sure it can fight fleets or do normal bombardment. But its job is to knock out heavily fortified worlds really rapidly. We are talking worlds likely able to hold for months or years. A fleet of ISD would realistically be needed to lock them down. So likely the sphere is a cheaper alternative just not directly.
On asteroids and mass drivers the reasoning is simple. For the former they are in Star Wars even with the cloak are weapons of disruption IE they make life hard. While mass drivers have the issue that they seem to be rarely used in general while also having more difficulty in doing a time on target barrage (the rapid hit bit).
@@spartanonxy Guess the Torpedos are for show, most tubes are empty or have no relaod, and it´s the grav weapon which does the job.
Maybe the Tie Fighter and Co games are to much stuck in my head, but even with an power upgrade for torpedoes it sound wasteful. not that strong compared to similiar superweapons, high failure rate with some many single small units. People complain about weakspot which is 2m wide on a giant sphere... Intercept a few torpedos directly at lunch and watch the chain reaction.
Wasn´t there a SSD which was made to surrender due many many torpedos launcher locking on (some where fake or installed on freighter?) was it the Lusankaya ? I could imagine so many Torpedos as a Super Dreadnought Killer.
@@paristeta5483 Ok so first off the gravity weapon is rare and only found on a few spheres. So no they have torpedoes and reloads for them. Next there are actually canonically more then one yield of proton torpedo. Capital ships tend to like to carry some for of assault class. Which are supposedly much stronger. Next Star Wars weapons have a very low failure rate as a general rule (it does happen in the canon but rare). And last chain detonations like you described is not really a thing. There is chain detonations but they aren't really like that.
Maiyn, you are Exquisite. Wow. That is really entertaining and enlightening. Such detail, I look forward to digging around your posts. Damn, this is just great!
Much of the information he's providing is just wrong. He misunderstands incredibly basic information and leaves out information from sources.
I mean, would it really be 25 Droids total? Could it not be like, 25 Droids per section? I doubt the Empire would count them as part of the compliment.
Correct me, but did Fractal Sponge use the torpedos from Stargate's Ancients? 🤣
Nice Vid as always!!! 👍
The image of several rings seems to make the most sense.
I want one
they're on sale rn for just 1M
Imagine if this thing shot batteries of the missiles Tri-Droids used during the Clone Wars, instead of, or in conjunction with torpedoes.
so littler space with a metric FUCKTON of buzz droids? talk about fucking terrifying, even Thrawn would shit his pants at that sight. that's potentially BILLIONS of those little shits just pissed all over the battlespace.
A Discord Missile
That would be incredibly wasteful and stupid.
Maybe the 2 designs can be explained by having a mk1 and a mk2 variants?
In fairness, Accutronic's B1 Worker Drone shares a similar name but is vastly different in both form and function from Baktoid's B1 series of Battle Droids.
2:42 imagine having six of these defending your planet than Golans
Since there were only six in the Empire, and they were all stationed to known locations, so the Rebels would have been able to keep watch on them. If one of them suddenly left right before their attack on the DS2 that would have been too much of a coincidence.
Don't call he ISB a CIA equivalent. Is a Gestapo equivalent.
1 of these per system plus a few small ships your planet or system is well defended
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It's called a Torpedo Sphere. Not a Torpedo Gyroscope. You had 1 job Sponge!
Its like a siege machine for space lol. Battering ram in space
far more practical than the death star because you can actually pull the trigger to make good on your threats without reducing all of a planet's resources to a rapidly expanding cloud of plasma and dust
A sign that you're dealing with a better SW channel is when they reference the West End Games RPG.
I would like to think this transforms, opening from the "olive" form for protection to the "angel" form as it prepares to fire. I know a transformation like this wouldn't be typical for SW, but there are plenty of (smaller) ships that rotate a significant part of their structure after they take off, and it does seem a bit warranted to not always have that amount of ammo merely protected by a single shield generator. Obviously the designers of this vessel know even the strongest shields can be defeated. Plus it would be cool to see the six arms "bursting" through the thick outer armor as they extend outward, bringing the full compliment of tubes to be available for near-simultaneous firing.
It would be a lot higher as fighters fire a different scale torpedo. Actually the book you are referencing would note the scales as capital then star fighter then walker then speeder then person. Damage from one to the next was normally 10x more with accuracy being reduced when a higher scale was shooting at a lower scale. So the amount of damage this could produce had no equal outside of a Death Star..
Torpedo Spheres exist so that Star Wars D6 tabtetop RPG players could, "blow up the Death Star," without causing a lore problem. These are substitute targets, six of them if I recall, that your rebel players can score a huge blow to the Empire by destroying one, but let the movie character of Luke, Han, Chewie, and Wedge (and unnamed Y-wing pilot) get the credit for the actual first Death Star.
Personally, I do not like the art of the version that is a hollow sphere with three rings around it. I prefer the basic egg shaped one because it is a mini-Death Star substitute.
I believe it comes up in catalyst, its discussed in the strategic advisory cell , where the death star plan is established, ( first krennic chapter)
It my own head cannon I dub it. “Arlack..the eye of wrath….”
Torpedo Sphere, when you want to one-up the Lucrehulk
1:10 That's the Throne of God. It appears everywhere in media as references and... Other reasons. It doesn't look exactly like that, but it's something like it
I wonder if the grav waves could be used to destroy ships too
coming from the thrawn revenge mod and playing as the new republic the torpedo sphere is a pain to fight against special early on when the nr only have mc80b and liberty as thier main capitalships
Death Star was a siege ship and a diplomatic ship rolled into one. It's a shame it did not lean into it more by being named something like "Treatymaker" or sth.
NICE VIDEO! At 2:05 to 2:16ish? What is this footage from?
Star wars Eclipse trailer
@KongoKaiNi thank you, thought it was a new movie or series! Got all excited for nothing!
I feel like the torpedos coming out of the Venator would be capital class, and the ones coming out of a fighter are….. not
Going to guess that Torpedoes also had a long enough range to sit the sphere out of range of planetary ion cannons. Because id imagine any planet with a strong shield also had a bunch of those ion cannons from Empire Strikes Back.
On that note wouldnt planets have massive STO defense batteries that could out range any orbital weapon and just smoke a fleet in orbit? Firing macross missile massacres of torpedoes as well out through the shields with impunity.
The V-150 Planet Defender
It's detailed because it was part of a Star Wars RPG campaign
You mean to tell me this giant sphere can *maintain* altitude in atmosphere?
The egg star
Death Egg
That M 191? I think I saw something in a game on the Gamecube. Rogue Squadron. I have no clue if it's the same, but hey.
looking at the biblically accurate angel could have been a spaceship i wouldn't be surprised if that's what people interpreted it as
If there are 8000 torpedos for the 6 rings. Then it was around 1333 per ring.
❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥💥💥💥Very nice!
I used oe of thse in a TTRG game campaign to terrify the party and force them to find a way to deal with it other than jumping in their x-wings. all that detail made it possible to play mu;ltiple sessions with the group infiltrating and sabotaging the ship.
I've been searching for this scene at 2:18 for awhile but i can't seem to find it where is this scene from?
The star wars eclipse trailer
The rebels should have taken one of the death stars shit as soon as Luke try’s to go he should have just called help and they would have taken it over
I can imagine this craft was first designed by the geonosians, techno union or trade federation
can decide to place the planetshock weapon capable of causing mass floods anywhere, chooses to place it over a city in the low countries,
Remember the vong' were always the danger the emperor saw coming for the galaxy well ge saw their void in the force coming, all of the fleet ships were part of the emperors plan for combating the vong'
That was not the point of Palpatines Empire or his fleets.
@aflickingbadger7489 you don't know that.
I know this is completely off topic, but why the fuck does the store bar have a Leopard 2A7 specifically, saying it’s from WW2? What the hell?
I doubt the Torpedo Sphere has so view torpedoes per tube as a star fighter, as it is not limited to the same degree.
After all, it´s at the size of a capital ship, a very large one, in fact.
So i would expect it to carry AT MINIMUM 20 torpedoes per launcher, possibly even more in case of extended missions.
But that´s just me as i would think when designing one myself.
Dr. Robotnik made a Death Egg.
WEG wars is still the best SW RPG
Big daddy balteus