I saw this opening night, and it’s choking me up to this day. I have a long-time friend, who moved four hours away from me several years ago. Myself and other friends have always jokingly called him “Captain Kirk”. Whenever I run into him, i say to him: Jim! Your name is Jim!”. Cracks us up every time.
@@vampiro4236 Oh, these friends called me “Dr. McCoy”! Back then I owed a 1977 Dodge van, which everyone called my “shuttlecraft”, so naturally, I got a vanity plate “McCoy2”!
Search for Spock is truly underrated, IMO. I know it gets criticized for retconing almost everything that happened in Wrath of Khan, but they just did everything so good - the acting, the effects, the music - just perfect. And the payoff in the end is so heartwarming: "Because the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many". I really love this movie, and the entire 2-3-4 trilogy.
The character of Spock, since I was a kid in the 1970's, has been the single most important and significant influence of my life regarding TV/film. Not only was Nimoy brilliant in his portrayal, but if you read his books he fought tooth and nail for every aspect of Spock's trajectory and philosophy, often butting heads with studio execs that wanted it to be something generic and predictable. Countless times I have applied Spock's well-rounded application of not only logic, but the humanity that logic requires to be in an ever-changing state of reaching something as ephemeral as perfection.
I remember seeing Leonard Nimoy on a game show way back when (think it was $10,000 pyramid) and he promoted his book "I Am Not Spock". I went out and bought it a couple of weeks later and enjoyed it, primarily for his take on the character and how different he, Leonard Nimoy, is/was from Spock. Then, decades later while browsing in Barnes & Noble, seeing "I Am Spock" and snatching it up. Also enjoyed it immesnely.
This film was my entry point to the franchise in probably 1991/92. I remember randomly catching the opening on cable and seeing the Enterprise slowly come into frame and I was hooked. The exchange between Kirk and Sarek when Sarek thanks Kirk for brining Spock home is what really makes the film for me. As a very shy kid with almost no social circle, I was shown what true friendship could, and should, strive to be.
I was introduced to The Wrath of Khan the same way. I just came upon it when my dad was watching the Mutara Nebula battle, and I was a Trekkie ever since I was 5 in 1991/92. As someone with the same small circle with friends, I wish you well and hope your circle of friends are able to go out of their way the way same way as these characters inspire us to be. 🖖 LLAP
Watching the stuff I love with friends is literally my favorite activity. Watching movie reactors on UA-cam has become my primary hobby. Even with a couple of good pals in my area, I still tune in here all the time. Great to see others really enjoying this as much as I do.
This movie holds a special place for me. It was the first Star Trek film I saw as a kid. I had already been watching the TV series for a while, but this movie and Star Trek The Next Generation premiering kicked off a deeper fandom for Star Trek. ❤
I totally agree. Watching the Enterprise be destroyed still hurts. The Enterprise was very much a character in her own right. If anything, she is one of the most iconic parts of Star Trek.
This is my personal favorite of the classic Trek films. Kirk and crew put it all on the line... Not to save the universe. Not to defeat some big bad. Just... To save their friend.
It bucks the trend of making every movie have the stakes be the entire galaxy. Part of why I prefer TV for Star Trek; they can tell all sorts of stories instead of feeling the need to make everything huge and a spectacle every time
I saw this in the theater in '84, and was devastated by David's death and the destruction of the Enterprise. I couldn't wait for the next one, which was released in late '86. I wasn't disappointed, either. I even watched it again for free while training at Ft. Sam Houston. This movie has so many memorable scenes that ST: IV was a satisfying end to the Khan Trilogy. As always, Admiral Ames, thank you, and I send my love and best wishes for a peaceful holiday season. You're my favorite, and I hope you don't forget that.
For those that have watched the series over the years, it was devastating to see the Enterprise blow up. So many times they have threatened to do it, and stopped the countdown at the last second. To see them actually do it, to me was like losing a member of the crew. Can't wait to see you watch ST4. I knew you would enjoy this one, but 4 has a lot of charm to it.
That final battle is so satisfying-- Kirk gave him every opportunity to come out of this with at least a partial W, but the Klingon commander was so warrior-mentality-focused on victory and battle that he wouldn't yield. Kirk finally saying what anyone in their right might would be thinking at that point is *muah* chef's kiss.
"What you had to do. What you always do. Turned death into a fighting chance to live." Always what I've gone out to do ever since my father died, just six months after I graduated High School.
This one is my favorite. I remember being so relieved when I was a little kid to get Spock back. ST2 had really left my little Trekkie heart devastated.
Peoples reaction to Christopher Loyd is interesting. I saw this in theaters, and thought he was great. Mind you, I was coming from knowing him as Jim from the TV show Taxi, a completely different character than either this or Doc Brown. It wasn't until the following year that Back to the Future came out.
The effects you see are the effects we saw in 1984. Nothing has been redone. Pretty slick, eh? J. T. Esteban did absolutely nothing wrong. I was 15 when STIII hit theaters, and remember being completely satisfied by it. The odd numbered TOS films get some shade, but I think this is a perfectly fine film. The detonation of the saucer section was something to see on the big screen, too, with full bore Dolby Surround Sound shaking the seats. A fine middle installment to what some have called "The Genesis Trilogy".
Yeah, Captain Esteban was in the right, you don't just beam some random lifeform that the sensors can't identify onto your ship. Plus they were getting unprecedented, crazy readings from the surface that beaming down would've been hazardous too. He was 100% right to be cautious. And the Genesis planet was deep within Federation space, and to his knowledge no data about it had been "leaked" outside so the last thing he'd imagine was a Klingon warship attacking. His ship was also not built for combat, if I remember correctly the Oberth class has only a pair of weak phasers and no Torpedoes.
Commodore Avery, I share your love for the Enterprise! It’s not just a starship-it’s a symbol of exploration, hope, and unity. Every mission and every crew member aboard brings it to life, making it feel like more than just a vessel. The Enterprise is the heart of Star Trek, and its adventures continue to inspire me to dream bigger and explore the unknown!"
Star Trek 3 is one of my favourites. I saw this at the cinema twice recently, and it is as good now as it was in 84. The ending is lovely with the interaction between Kirk, Sarek, and finally Spock.
Star Trek 2 and 3 are the best in my book. I saw this one right when it came on VHS back in the 80s. I agree on the depth of emotion. Star Trek 2-4 are great. Star Trek 6 is really great also!
As I've gotten older, Star Trek 3 has become my favorite Star Trek film. I love the themes of friendship and loyalty throughout. Kirk telling Spock at the end that the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many was a beautiful moment that encapsulated what the entire film is about, and I love the way it flipped Spock's philosophy on its head. I love Spock, but he's not infallible, and I definitely don't agree with his "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" philosophy. It's a philosophy that can lead to the tyranny of the majority and the oppression of minorities, and it completely ignores loyalty and friendship. I can understand how one might find the portrayal of Captain Esteban of the USS Grissom (played by Phillip R. Allen) off-putting, but I thought it worked. I think you have to keep in mind that we're talking about the captain of a science vessel. He's likely not accustomed to stressful situations and is probably a pretty big nerd, so the actor's awkward cadence made sense to me. I may be in the minority, but I prefer Robin Curtis as Saavik. I found her portrayal more mature, more compelling... and like you pointed out, more Vulcan. David's death is a heartbreaking moment that William Shatner plays beautifully. The way he falls back, misses his chair, and has that moment of grief and anger on the floor is unforgettable. Kruge may not be the villain Khan is (he's a hard one to top), but I like the fact that he has a really good reason for what he's doing. To people outside the Federation, Genesis would seem like the ultimate weapon AND the ultimate tool for galactic expansion in one device. It's no wonder to me that he was so fixated on it.
The Klingon Bird of Prey is one of the best Starship designs in all of Star Trek. My other favorites are the "Constitution Refit" Enterprise, the "Miranda" class (Reliant) and the Enterprise from The Next Generation
Yes, you met T'Pau in the STOS episode "Amok Time" she officiated at Spock's Wedding (sort of). She was played by a different actress then. Dame Judith Anderson (REBECCA, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, etc.)
Fun fact: Mark Leonard has been playing Spock's father since the original series aired in '67. He also, curiously, was cast as a Romulan in an earlier episode. I believe that Leonard and Majel Barrett are the only actors to play the same characters in the original series and in a movie. Someone pls correct me if I am wrong.
When I saw the Enterprise explode, it was the worst feeling in the world for me. My stomach literally dropped all the way down inside me like that feeling you get from riding a roller coaster for the first time. Even now, after so many years watching the ship blowup still gets to me everytime.
Christopher Lloyd was at the last LasVegas Star Trek Convention. I asked him a question about the movie Clue. It took him completely off guard,😂 he was expecting Star Trek & Back To The Future questions. One fan asked if he would be willing to appear as a character in any of the New Trek & he gave an enthusiastic, "Hell Yeah, I would!"
Apart from everything else that I love about Search, that quaint little merchantman ship, that gets blown apart in the beginning, may be one of my favourite designs and moments in Star Trek. It's such a rare glimpse into the broader world of space travel beyond Starfleet - I'm hopelessly in love with it.
@@holddowna A lot of the odd numbered star trek films are not loved like the others and deservedly so. However, Star Trek 3 is not one of those. It's underrated and quite a solid movie on all fronts. Glad you enjoyed it as much as we do.
If you know John Larroquette (Night Court) he plays Maltz, one of the officers on the Klingon ship. The one saying "I do not deserve to live" near the end of the movie.
I love Star Trek 3. Saw it during its initial release and have enjoyed it many times since then. The original Star Trek movies are like the Rocky movies. All are solid and have much to offer… except the 5th one.
I remember first watching this movie on a old VHS tape that my dad recorded off of cable. So the quality wasn't great and some screens were cut or shorten to make the time slot fit. Wasn't until I borrowed a legit copy from a friend when I was a kid that I saw the full movie uncut :)
Christopher Lloyd was so amazing in his departure. From the total good in Taxi, to mad scientist in Back to the Future, to a ruthless Klingon. Great range.
Star Trek 3 has some of my all time favorite music in it! My favorite is the Stealing the Enterprise music, but a close second is when they are flying to Vulcan.
There was dialogue that was cut from the released version because it made Leonard Nimoy uncomfortable about a 17 year old Spock... It goes as follows: Kirk:" Your leave is granted because of good cause!" Saavik,"Thank you admiral." Kirk,"How are you?" Saavik, "I'm doing fine,sir." Kirk, "Have you told Spock?" Saavik, " His retraining was done in the Vulcan way. I'm not certain he is ready to know yet or would understand.." Kirk,"I know Spock! I'm certain he would understand and would want to know about his child!"
Trek 3 is great.The entire Genesis Trilogy of 2, 3 & 4 is amazing. Kirstie Alley was doing Cheers and declined to return. I'm kinda glad as Robin Curtis is really good and a lovely lady who cares deeply about the character of Saavik and her own (ongoing) role in the world of Star Trek. And yes, Shatner is fabulous as Kirk. His reaction to David's death, as with Spock's death always gets to me. Bring on The Voyage Home. 😊
Honestly if you ask me Robin Curtis was much better in her role of Saavik then Kirstie Alley, I felt Kirstie Alley portrayed too much emotion for a Vulcan, especially in her self-doubt. I find Robin Curtis play a much more cool-headed and logical character
Another lovely reaction! My favorite part of this film is the fact that Kirk & co. become pirates. "I intend to recommend you all for promotion . . . in whatever fleet we end up serving." 🤣
The waitress at the bar where McCoy was trying to charter a flight is the mother of a future television Superman actor, and the last Klingon on the ship towards the end was played by an attorney on a popular 80s television sitcom.
The cadet who asked for "A Hero's Welcome" at the beginning is actor Phil Morris in his movie debut. He is also known as the lawyer Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld and the Martian Manhunter on Smallville...
You're spot on, Ames. This was Shatner's best performance. Also, people definitely felt the conflict of Christopher Lloyd's presence in the film. Comedians did lines from this in the voice of Reverend Jim Ignatowski from 'Taxi' because it was so difficult to separate the performance from Lloyd's voice.
Oh my God! With you crying right from the very beginning, it made this such an emotional ride! Can't wait for you to see part 4, which is a lot more fun than the first 3 movies. Thanks for the fun reaction and keep smiling👍🙂🇨🇦
People say the odd ones are bad and the even ones are good. The critics talk about all the things that make it good or bad and why. At the end of the day, you like what you like and if you’re a Trekkie, you enjoy the ride.
The next one, The Journey Home, was actually my very first taste of Star Trek when I was a kid. It launched my love of Trek. You'll really enjoy it. A lot of comic relief.
You mentioned Lloyd's dedication. In some behind the scenes stuff I've seen over the years, I remember a story of him botching the Klingon and wanting to redo it because it was wrong. The man who developed the language (can't recall his name) reworked the language to fit the scene and still be correct.
i remember people in the theatre crying when the enterprise was destroyed. people forget it was the same ship from the tv series just with a refit. it was such a sad moment
I saw this twice when it came out just because Spock was coming back. The payoff at the end was worth the price of the ticket. Like you I was disappointed that Kirstie Alley did not come back to play Saavik, but Robin Curtis did a good job in that thankless task. Didn't like her at first, but I've grown to appreciate her performance. It helped that Nimoy was with her every step of the way. Watching you react to the end (and beginning) of the movie was very touching. Thanks for the reaction.
The "needs of the many"/"needs of the one", logic/emotion juxtaposition is really well done and, I think, is quite often overlooked. Knowing when each should apply in life - in a way that is kind - feels like, I dunno... "the secret key to existence"? 😌
I discovered your channel a couple of days ago and LOVE it! I know you're going to be thrilled with ST4 which I think is the best of the lot. Thanks for a great reaction! xx
Until the end of the filming of the movie, it wasn't clear if Leonard Nimoy as Spock would return. So they prepared the whole movie without mentioning him. And Mark Lenard gave so much depth to his role as Spock's father both in the TV series and the movies, he is actually THE Vulcan for me.
I don’t understand why people think the odd ones are worse. Some are but not all. This is my favorite of all the movies. It is not dated. It holds up. And it has all the feels of the original series.
In earlier scripts the Klingon bird of prey was supposed to be a Romulan mining ship that happened to run into regenerated Spock. It was quickly changed to a cadre of Klingon warriors as it was felt that Klingons were more aggressive whereas Romulans are more the shady plotting scheming type of villains so outright combat would have been a bit out of character hence they went with making Klingons the baddies. It’s a good choice as it is accurate to how the species were respectively conceived and written all along. It was good they went with Klingons.
HDA, I've encountered many reactions to these shows and movies, but I think I like yours best of all. As someone who watched all this debut in 1966, I must say -- the Trek is strong with you.
I was 8 or 9 when I saw this movie with my Dad ... near the end when it looked like Kirk and Spock were going ti die, I remember screaming at the screen "Repeat what the Klingon said! Repeat what he said!" And Kirk did and they escaped and I was so happy ... meanwhile, my Dad was trying to calm me down so we wouldn't get kicked out of the movie theater. 😅😅😅
Christopher Lloyd is my favourite Klingon. He's a great balance between the scheming Klingons of TOS and the Space Vikings of TNG. He's a great Space Pirate.
The 'you promised to kill me' Klingon was John Larroquette, Dan Fielding in Night Court, obviously the star of the John Larroquette show, and was on the last season of Boston Legal.
Hi Ames, I'm so glad to have watched this with you. Sooner rather than later, you need to watch Star Trek, The Voyage Home. You'll love it, I promise. Christopher Lloyd's voice is so distinctive, it's hard to believe his character. Still sounds like Doc Brown.... Kirsty said she wanted to play the role but her agent asked for too much money. Something like that. Too bad, but Robin Curtis did a nice job, though. - Thomas
It's hard to imagine how much an impact this film had when it was released. - It came out in the summer of 1984, a year that saw Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Ghostbusters, The Karate Kid, Supergirl, Dune, and The Terminator. - It was Leonard Nimoy's first feature flim he directed, and had quite the career as a director with not just Star Trek but also Three Men and a Baby (1987). - During the making of the movie, a fire broke out on the soundstages of Paramount Studios. It affected the shooting on this film as well as TV shows like Cheers. - New found fans who came onboard to Star Trek due to the success of Wrath of Khan in theaters and on home video, were interested to see what would happen here in this film. - Christopher Lloyd (Kruge) got the role after proving to Leonard Nimoy and producer Harve Bennett that he could be serious and not comedic; having been well known to TV audiences for playing Reverend Jim on Taxi.
Saw this when it came out! I still remember the very Audible Gasp when the Enterprise exploded! No one could believe it! Commander Kruge is one of Chris Lloyd's best roles ever! That's John Larroquette as "Maltz"..Larroquette would later go one and play "Dan Fielding" in Night court! The Stealing the Enterprise scene is considered one of the best scenes in Trek! I Got to meet James doohan at a video store event in seattle when the VHS came out! He was wearing his Starfleet velour jacket!
1:45 Yes they did- and it was a truly clever way if you watch it back... William Shatner's credit appears while still on the Genesis Planet with the Sun shining through the trees. The light from the Sun creates a whiteout and in the pace/beat of the credits- this would be where Leonard Nimoy's credit would appear, but instead there is a distinct pause in the screen credits. There is a pullback through the clouds and DeForest Kelley's credit appears. After which the credits continue at their normal pace.
The "Your name is Jim" moment still chokes me up, even after seeing it countless times over the years.
He was the Man of logic who somehow had heart. Even in a ressurection his cold logic cannot suppress his honor and humanity!
I saw this opening night, and it’s choking me up to this day.
I have a long-time friend, who moved four hours away from me several years ago. Myself and other friends have always jokingly called him “Captain Kirk”. Whenever I run into him, i say to him: Jim! Your name is Jim!”. Cracks us up every time.
@@SciTrekMan That is awesome!
@@vampiro4236 Oh, these friends called me “Dr. McCoy”! Back then I owed a 1977 Dodge van, which everyone called my “shuttlecraft”, so naturally, I got a vanity plate “McCoy2”!
YEP
Search for Spock is truly underrated, IMO. I know it gets criticized for retconing almost everything that happened in Wrath of Khan, but they just did everything so good - the acting, the effects, the music - just perfect. And the payoff in the end is so heartwarming: "Because the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many".
I really love this movie, and the entire 2-3-4 trilogy.
What did it retcon?
It retcons nothing. At worst you could say it undermines the sense of loss since Spock comes back.
The character of Spock, since I was a kid in the 1970's, has been the single most important and significant influence of my life regarding TV/film. Not only was Nimoy brilliant in his portrayal, but if you read his books he fought tooth and nail for every aspect of Spock's trajectory and philosophy, often butting heads with studio execs that wanted it to be something generic and predictable. Countless times I have applied Spock's well-rounded application of not only logic, but the humanity that logic requires to be in an ever-changing state of reaching something as ephemeral as perfection.
I remember seeing Leonard Nimoy on a game show way back when (think it was $10,000 pyramid) and he promoted his book "I Am Not Spock". I went out and bought it a couple of weeks later and enjoyed it, primarily for his take on the character and how different he, Leonard Nimoy, is/was from Spock. Then, decades later while browsing in Barnes & Noble, seeing "I Am Spock" and snatching it up. Also enjoyed it immesnely.
"Because the needs of the one, outweigh, the needs of the many" gets me every time
I regularly quote "I have had enough of YOU!" in the same way Shatner says it because of this movie, lol, his little kick. Always cracks me up.
Lol
@@yellowblanka6058 It gets referenced in South Park The Movie too!
This film was my entry point to the franchise in probably 1991/92. I remember randomly catching the opening on cable and seeing the Enterprise slowly come into frame and I was hooked. The exchange between Kirk and Sarek when Sarek thanks Kirk for brining Spock home is what really makes the film for me.
As a very shy kid with almost no social circle, I was shown what true friendship could, and should, strive to be.
@@Bar-Lord amen brother
I was introduced to The Wrath of Khan the same way. I just came upon it when my dad was watching the Mutara Nebula battle, and I was a Trekkie ever since I was 5 in 1991/92.
As someone with the same small circle with friends, I wish you well and hope your circle of friends are able to go out of their way the way same way as these characters inspire us to be.
🖖 LLAP
Dam that still hurts....the enterprise going down. After 40 years it still hurts to watch.😪
I live in remote region of Western Australia with only 180 or so people in the town I live in. Watching movies with you is my idea of fun.
Believe me, even in metropolitan areas around the globe, watching movies with her is fun. ^^ Greetings to Australia!
Watching the stuff I love with friends is literally my favorite activity. Watching movie reactors on UA-cam has become my primary hobby. Even with a couple of good pals in my area, I still tune in here all the time. Great to see others really enjoying this as much as I do.
“Let’s see some docking action”
I’m pretty sure the firewall will filter that. 😂
beat me to it! lol
I can already hear Awkward Ashleigh yelling “No! I just had to Google what that meant in another reaction and it scarred me for life!”
Making backing out of the garage look epic.
This movie holds a special place for me. It was the first Star Trek film I saw as a kid. I had already been watching the TV series for a while, but this movie and Star Trek The Next Generation premiering kicked off a deeper fandom for Star Trek. ❤
That must have been something not only watching your first Star Trek film as a child but also seeing the Enterprise self-destruct in the same film
I’ve seen this movie dozens of times and it’s still makes me teary-eyed every time
EVERYTIME
"It so painfull to watch"
Losing the Enterprise always hurt me. The ship was as much a crewmember as anyone else. They lost home..
I totally agree. Watching the Enterprise be destroyed still hurts. The Enterprise was very much a character in her own right. If anything, she is one of the most iconic parts of Star Trek.
Trivia: That was Grace Lee Whitney (Yeoman Rand) in the cafe watching Enterprise arrive in Spacedock.
Fun fact - the last Klingon on the ship was played by John Larroquette from Night Court fame.
I knew that he was in it , but not which character. Thank for the information.
And his character "Maltz" goes on to disseminate the Klingon Language for Starfleet and the Federation.
Also, as a French, this is one of the very rare case of an american movie where a French thing is said correctly. Shatner "c'est la vie" is perfect.
Shatner's from Montreal, Quebec.
This is my personal favorite of the classic Trek films. Kirk and crew put it all on the line... Not to save the universe. Not to defeat some big bad. Just... To save their friend.
It bucks the trend of making every movie have the stakes be the entire galaxy. Part of why I prefer TV for Star Trek; they can tell all sorts of stories instead of feeling the need to make everything huge and a spectacle every time
I saw this in the theater in '84, and was devastated by David's death and the destruction of the Enterprise. I couldn't wait for the next one, which was released in late '86. I wasn't disappointed, either. I even watched it again for free while training at Ft. Sam Houston. This movie has so many memorable scenes that ST: IV was a satisfying end to the Khan Trilogy.
As always, Admiral Ames, thank you, and I send my love and best wishes for a peaceful holiday season. You're my favorite, and I hope you don't forget that.
Spock's eyebrow raise at the very end got a HUGE reaction in the theater. Fans LOVED it. 😃😃😃
For those that have watched the series over the years, it was devastating to see the Enterprise blow up. So many times they have threatened to do it, and stopped the countdown at the last second. To see them actually do it, to me was like losing a member of the crew.
Can't wait to see you watch ST4. I knew you would enjoy this one, but 4 has a lot of charm to it.
That final battle is so satisfying-- Kirk gave him every opportunity to come out of this with at least a partial W, but the Klingon commander was so warrior-mentality-focused on victory and battle that he wouldn't yield. Kirk finally saying what anyone in their right might would be thinking at that point is *muah* chef's kiss.
26:00 "What is this ceremony?" He was going through Vulcan puberty. She gave him a Vulcan "handy". 😂
She gave him more than that, as you'll see when you watch the Unification short they just made.
Wrath Of Khan and Search For Spock still hits me hard after all these years. Damn, I love these movies!
mccoy learning that spock is in his head is so funny! 🤣 thank you for sharing this with us, ENJOYED your reaction! 👍☺
"That green blooded son of a bitch" is one of DeForrest's all time best line readings
@@michaelinlofi but make no mistake. Those 2 characters were close friends, even if they did argue.
"What you had to do. What you always do. Turned death into a fighting chance to live."
Always what I've gone out to do ever since my father died, just six months after I graduated High School.
This one is my favorite. I remember being so relieved when I was a little kid to get Spock back. ST2 had really left my little Trekkie heart devastated.
"My God, Bones. What have I done?"
"What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live."
Peoples reaction to Christopher Loyd is interesting. I saw this in theaters, and thought he was great. Mind you, I was coming from knowing him as Jim from the TV show Taxi, a completely different character than either this or Doc Brown. It wasn't until the following year that Back to the Future came out.
I LOVED him more on rewatch
I have bin a Star Trek fan all my life. Watching the Enterprise get destroyed literally made me cry. But, what has to be, has to be. R. I.P. girl.
The effects you see are the effects we saw in 1984. Nothing has been redone. Pretty slick, eh?
J. T. Esteban did absolutely nothing wrong.
I was 15 when STIII hit theaters, and remember being completely satisfied by it. The odd numbered TOS films get some shade, but I think this is a perfectly fine film. The detonation of the saucer section was something to see on the big screen, too, with full bore Dolby Surround Sound shaking the seats. A fine middle installment to what some have called "The Genesis Trilogy".
Yeah, Captain Esteban was in the right, you don't just beam some random lifeform that the sensors can't identify onto your ship. Plus they were getting unprecedented, crazy readings from the surface that beaming down would've been hazardous too. He was 100% right to be cautious. And the Genesis planet was deep within Federation space, and to his knowledge no data about it had been "leaked" outside so the last thing he'd imagine was a Klingon warship attacking. His ship was also not built for combat, if I remember correctly the Oberth class has only a pair of weak phasers and no Torpedoes.
It still breaks my heart to see the Enterprise destroyed after all these years. 😩🖖
Wow the way u said that really meant alot in my heart it breaks my heart as well Mr commodore Avery
Commodore Avery, I share your love for the Enterprise! It’s not just a starship-it’s a symbol of exploration, hope, and unity. Every mission and every crew member aboard brings it to life, making it feel like more than just a vessel. The Enterprise is the heart of Star Trek, and its adventures continue to inspire me to dream bigger and explore the unknown!"
@@tylereric-pc2kp I disagree the enterprise should be a sign of Authority and great ness not hope
Star Trek 3 is one of my favourites. I saw this at the cinema twice recently, and it is as good now as it was in 84.
The ending is lovely with the interaction between Kirk, Sarek, and finally Spock.
Star Trek 2 and 3 are the best in my book. I saw this one right when it came on VHS back in the 80s. I agree on the depth of emotion. Star Trek 2-4 are great. Star Trek 6 is really great also!
3 was the first one I ever saw in the theatre so I've always had an attachment to it
As I've gotten older, Star Trek 3 has become my favorite Star Trek film. I love the themes of friendship and loyalty throughout. Kirk telling Spock at the end that the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many was a beautiful moment that encapsulated what the entire film is about, and I love the way it flipped Spock's philosophy on its head. I love Spock, but he's not infallible, and I definitely don't agree with his "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" philosophy. It's a philosophy that can lead to the tyranny of the majority and the oppression of minorities, and it completely ignores loyalty and friendship.
I can understand how one might find the portrayal of Captain Esteban of the USS Grissom (played by Phillip R. Allen) off-putting, but I thought it worked. I think you have to keep in mind that we're talking about the captain of a science vessel. He's likely not accustomed to stressful situations and is probably a pretty big nerd, so the actor's awkward cadence made sense to me.
I may be in the minority, but I prefer Robin Curtis as Saavik. I found her portrayal more mature, more compelling... and like you pointed out, more Vulcan.
David's death is a heartbreaking moment that William Shatner plays beautifully. The way he falls back, misses his chair, and has that moment of grief and anger on the floor is unforgettable.
Kruge may not be the villain Khan is (he's a hard one to top), but I like the fact that he has a really good reason for what he's doing. To people outside the Federation, Genesis would seem like the ultimate weapon AND the ultimate tool for galactic expansion in one device. It's no wonder to me that he was so fixated on it.
The Klingon Bird of Prey is one of the best Starship designs in all of Star Trek. My other favorites are the "Constitution Refit" Enterprise, the "Miranda" class (Reliant) and the Enterprise from The Next Generation
5:20 Saving this audio for nefarious purposes. 😂😂
Yes, you met T'Pau in the STOS episode "Amok Time" she officiated at Spock's Wedding (sort of). She was played by a different actress then. Dame Judith Anderson (REBECCA, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, etc.)
The priestess is T’Lar in this movie. Different character, I think. T’Pau was too busy holding some china in her hand
YAAAAAAAAY!!!! It feels like I've been waiting forever for you to finish the Trek films! Hyped that they're back!
"Did he mind meld with the ship?!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
I want to see Ames’ version of ST III where this is actually what happened!
Fun fact: Mark Leonard has been playing Spock's father since the original series aired in '67. He also, curiously, was cast as a Romulan in an earlier episode. I believe that Leonard and Majel Barrett are the only actors to play the same characters in the original series and in a movie. Someone pls correct me if I am wrong.
When I saw the Enterprise explode, it was the worst feeling in the world for me. My stomach literally dropped all the way down inside me like that feeling you get from riding a roller coaster for the first time. Even now, after so many years watching the ship blowup still gets to me everytime.
Christopher Lloyd was at the last LasVegas Star Trek Convention. I asked him a question about the movie Clue. It took him completely off guard,😂 he was expecting Star Trek & Back To The Future questions.
One fan asked if he would be willing to appear as a character in any of the New Trek & he gave an enthusiastic, "Hell Yeah, I would!"
36:28 Loved the "Anakin fights Obi-Wan" music
This has become my favorite of the Classic Trek movies, just edging TWOK - love the crew camaraderie in this one.
Apart from everything else that I love about Search, that quaint little merchantman ship, that gets blown apart in the beginning, may be one of my favourite designs and moments in Star Trek. It's such a rare glimpse into the broader world of space travel beyond Starfleet - I'm hopelessly in love with it.
Kirk knew the beam command in Klingon because he heard Kruge say it when he had the crew beamed up several minutes prior.
Loved this on rewatch
@@holddowna A lot of the odd numbered star trek films are not loved like the others and deservedly so. However, Star Trek 3 is not one of those. It's underrated and quite a solid movie on all fronts. Glad you enjoyed it as much as we do.
If you know John Larroquette (Night Court) he plays Maltz, one of the officers on the Klingon ship. The one saying "I do not deserve to live" near the end of the movie.
I love Star Trek 3. Saw it during its initial release and have enjoyed it many times since then. The original Star Trek movies are like the Rocky movies. All are solid and have much to offer… except the 5th one.
I remember first watching this movie on a old VHS tape that my dad recorded off of cable. So the quality wasn't great and some screens were cut or shorten to make the time slot fit. Wasn't until I borrowed a legit copy from a friend when I was a kid that I saw the full movie uncut :)
Was waiting for you to drop this my most favorite thing in the world is a Uhura showing she is an OG
Let’s go!
"Turning death into a fighting chance to live" sure sums up Kirk pretty well.
Christopher Lloyd was so amazing in his departure. From the total good in Taxi, to mad scientist in Back to the Future, to a ruthless Klingon. Great range.
All the heart and soul Star Trek has been missing since 2004.
Lloyd was a perfect Klingon and we loved his portrayal now and then.
Totally agree. Shatner’s acting is great in this film.
The ,,"Death* of the USS Enterprise was the most emotional moment in the whole Star Trek Journey. It has been "Home" to all Trekkies since 1966
Star Trek 3 has some of my all time favorite music in it! My favorite is the Stealing the Enterprise music, but a close second is when they are flying to Vulcan.
One of my favorite pieces of film music score
There was dialogue that was cut from the released version because it made Leonard Nimoy uncomfortable about a 17 year old Spock...
It goes as follows:
Kirk:" Your leave is granted because of good cause!"
Saavik,"Thank you admiral."
Kirk,"How are you?"
Saavik, "I'm doing fine,sir."
Kirk, "Have you told Spock?"
Saavik, " His retraining was done in the Vulcan way. I'm not certain he is ready to know yet or would understand.."
Kirk,"I know Spock! I'm certain he would understand and would want to know about his child!"
Wow really?
@BenWillyums in Reunification 765874 you see Saavik with a Vulcan man standing behind her. He is Spock and Saavik's son.
Trek 3 is great.The entire Genesis Trilogy of 2, 3 & 4 is amazing. Kirstie Alley was doing Cheers and declined to return. I'm kinda glad as Robin Curtis is really good and a lovely lady who cares deeply about the character of Saavik and her own (ongoing) role in the world of Star Trek. And yes, Shatner is fabulous as Kirk. His reaction to David's death, as with Spock's death always gets to me. Bring on The Voyage Home. 😊
Also I've understood that she (Kirstie) asked more salary than most of the original cast members...
Honestly if you ask me Robin Curtis was much better in her role of Saavik then Kirstie Alley, I felt Kirstie Alley portrayed too much emotion for a Vulcan, especially in her self-doubt. I find Robin Curtis play a much more cool-headed and logical character
I actually liked Robin Curtis in the role too. She played Vulcan better, IMO. And yes, she does care about the character.
She was not on Cheers yet.
Another lovely reaction!
My favorite part of this film is the fact that Kirk & co. become pirates. "I intend to recommend you all for promotion . . . in whatever fleet we end up serving." 🤣
The waitress at the bar where McCoy was trying to charter a flight is the mother of a future television Superman actor, and the last Klingon on the ship towards the end was played by an attorney on a popular 80s television sitcom.
I love the next two. Wait until you watch.
The cadet who asked for "A Hero's Welcome" at the beginning is actor Phil Morris in his movie debut. He is also known as the lawyer Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld and the Martian Manhunter on Smallville...
You're spot on, Ames. This was Shatner's best performance.
Also, people definitely felt the conflict of Christopher Lloyd's presence in the film. Comedians did lines from this in the voice of Reverend Jim Ignatowski from 'Taxi' because it was so difficult to separate the performance from Lloyd's voice.
Oh my God! With you crying right from the very beginning, it made this such an emotional ride! Can't wait for you to see part 4, which is a lot more fun than the first 3 movies. Thanks for the fun reaction and keep smiling👍🙂🇨🇦
People say the odd ones are bad and the even ones are good. The critics talk about all the things that make it good or bad and why. At the end of the day, you like what you like and if you’re a Trekkie, you enjoy the ride.
The next one, The Journey Home, was actually my very first taste of Star Trek when I was a kid. It launched my love of Trek. You'll really enjoy it. A lot of comic relief.
OMG, your 'squee' at the _Enterprise'_ s lights coming on was everything!!! 💕 💕 💕
The music from the "Stealing the Enterprise" sequence is some of the best in cinematic history.
You mentioned Lloyd's dedication. In some behind the scenes stuff I've seen over the years, I remember a story of him botching the Klingon and wanting to redo it because it was wrong. The man who developed the language (can't recall his name) reworked the language to fit the scene and still be correct.
i remember people in the theatre crying when the enterprise was destroyed. people forget it was the same ship from the tv series just with a refit. it was such a sad moment
I saw this twice when it came out just because Spock was coming back. The payoff at the end was worth the price of the ticket. Like you I was disappointed that Kirstie Alley did not come back to play Saavik, but Robin Curtis did a good job in that thankless task. Didn't like her at first, but I've grown to appreciate her performance. It helped that Nimoy was with her every step of the way. Watching you react to the end (and beginning) of the movie was very touching. Thanks for the reaction.
All the Vulcans present are giving their psychic powers to the Priestess
When I saw this in the theater, I couldn't help but cry when the Enterprise was destroyed, it was like a big part of my childhood died.
You’re such a nerd for Star Trek…and I love it.
II, III & IV are the classic movie Star Trek. The true trilogy.
Its such a testement to the world they have built that the desctruction of a ship here is almost as emotional as the lost of Spock last time.
The "needs of the many"/"needs of the one", logic/emotion juxtaposition is really well done and, I think, is quite often overlooked. Knowing when each should apply in life - in a way that is kind - feels like, I dunno... "the secret key to existence"? 😌
@21:07 The look on Kirk’s face says it all. He’s willing to sacrifice everything to save his friend. Zero fu-ks given.
For me this was great for the humor mostly ("....it's his revenge for all those arguements he lost." LOL!!).
Speaking of Star Wars cantina vibes, notice that the alien Bones tries getting a ride from speaks in a Yodaesque way.
I’ve even seen a quote from DeForest Kelley where he referred to it as the Star Wars bar!
Love these two movies so much!🙌🙌👋👋👏👏✨✨🌟🌟⭐⭐🌠🌠
I discovered your channel a couple of days ago and LOVE it! I know you're going to be thrilled with ST4 which I think is the best of the lot. Thanks for a great reaction! xx
Star trek the animated series had a rapidly where Adult Spock has to time travel to his childhood and meets himself as a child.
Until the end of the filming of the movie, it wasn't clear if Leonard Nimoy as Spock would return. So they prepared the whole movie without mentioning him.
And Mark Lenard gave so much depth to his role as Spock's father both in the TV series and the movies, he is actually THE Vulcan for me.
I don’t understand why people think the odd ones are worse. Some are but not all. This is my favorite of all the movies. It is not dated. It holds up. And it has all the feels of the original series.
In earlier scripts the Klingon bird of prey was supposed to be a Romulan mining ship that happened to run into regenerated Spock. It was quickly changed to a cadre of Klingon warriors as it was felt that Klingons were more aggressive whereas Romulans are more the shady plotting scheming type of villains so outright combat would have been a bit out of character hence they went with making Klingons the baddies. It’s a good choice as it is accurate to how the species were respectively conceived and written all along. It was good they went with Klingons.
HDA, I've encountered many reactions to these shows and movies, but I think I like yours best of all. As someone who watched all this debut in 1966, I must say -- the Trek is strong with you.
Yes!! More OG Star Trek!!
Edit: Watch Unification!!!!
The excelsior elevator voice when Scotty gets on is Leonard Nimoy
I can't wait for the next reaction - star trek 4 is a MUST! You'll love it so much!
I was 8 or 9 when I saw this movie with my Dad ... near the end when it looked like Kirk and Spock were going ti die, I remember screaming at the screen "Repeat what the Klingon said! Repeat what he said!"
And Kirk did and they escaped and I was so happy ... meanwhile, my Dad was trying to calm me down so we wouldn't get kicked out of the movie theater. 😅😅😅
Christopher Lloyd is my favourite Klingon. He's a great balance between the scheming Klingons of TOS and the Space Vikings of TNG. He's a great Space Pirate.
on the excelsior, "what's he holding?" it's called a Swagger Stick. It serves no purpose but to be a visual symbol of authority
The 'you promised to kill me' Klingon was John Larroquette, Dan Fielding in Night Court, obviously the star of the John Larroquette show, and was on the last season of Boston Legal.
Hi Ames, I'm so glad to have watched this with you. Sooner rather than later, you need to watch Star Trek, The Voyage Home. You'll love it, I promise.
Christopher Lloyd's voice is so distinctive, it's hard to believe his character. Still sounds like Doc Brown....
Kirsty said she wanted to play the role but her agent asked for too much money. Something like that. Too bad, but Robin Curtis did a nice job, though. - Thomas
It's hard to imagine how much an impact this film had when it was released.
- It came out in the summer of 1984, a year that saw Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Ghostbusters, The Karate Kid, Supergirl, Dune, and The Terminator.
- It was Leonard Nimoy's first feature flim he directed, and had quite the career as a director with not just Star Trek but also Three Men and a Baby (1987).
- During the making of the movie, a fire broke out on the soundstages of Paramount Studios. It affected the shooting on this film as well as TV shows like Cheers.
- New found fans who came onboard to Star Trek due to the success of Wrath of Khan in theaters and on home video, were interested to see what would happen here in this film.
- Christopher Lloyd (Kruge) got the role after proving to Leonard Nimoy and producer Harve Bennett that he could be serious and not comedic; having been well known to TV audiences for playing Reverend Jim on Taxi.
Saw this when it came out! I still remember the very Audible Gasp when the Enterprise exploded! No one could believe it!
Commander Kruge is one of Chris Lloyd's best roles ever!
That's John Larroquette as "Maltz"..Larroquette would later go one and play "Dan Fielding" in Night court!
The Stealing the Enterprise scene is considered one of the best scenes in Trek!
I Got to meet James doohan at a video store event in seattle when the VHS came out! He was wearing his Starfleet velour jacket!
1:45 Yes they did- and it was a truly clever way if you watch it back...
William Shatner's credit appears while still on the Genesis Planet with the Sun shining through the trees. The light from the Sun creates a whiteout and in the pace/beat of the credits- this would be where Leonard Nimoy's credit would appear, but instead there is a distinct pause in the screen credits. There is a pullback through the clouds and DeForest Kelley's credit appears. After which the credits continue at their normal pace.
Yes. Been waiting for this. I love 3. Best emotion and The James Horner Music Score is so great.