The LARGEST Warship Sinking in HISTORY by a Submarine

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  • @HiddenHistoryYT
    @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +42

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    • @bobhsohi704
      @bobhsohi704 Рік тому +9

      What a great battle review !

    • @juangarcia-kq8zp
      @juangarcia-kq8zp Рік тому +2

      Why were there no US submarines at our ambush at Midway? Our subs could've finished off the Japanese carriers limping back to Japan.
      Were our subs actually at the battle of midway, but covered up due to the embarrassment of faulty torpedoes?
      US submarines could have rescued all of those torpedo bomber crews that were shot down.
      Lastly, why didn't our carrier that sank, beach itself on Midway Island before sinking?

    • @lionelpasamonte9068
      @lionelpasamonte9068 Рік тому +1

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    • @henryparong-mb5jz
      @henryparong-mb5jz Рік тому +1

      ​@@juangarcia-kq8zp jumbo mop😮

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      @henryparong-mb5jz Рік тому +1

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  • @jeffmcdonald4225
    @jeffmcdonald4225 Рік тому +135

    As a former sailor, I have the greatest admiration for my brothers who served on subs. That took real guts in wartime service.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Thank you for your service!

    • @GT-ld6bf
      @GT-ld6bf Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your service!! 👏 🙏

    • @GT-ld6bf
      @GT-ld6bf Рік тому

      Welcome home.

    • @joehayward2631
      @joehayward2631 11 місяців тому

      Not only WW2 but all wars and peace time.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 11 місяців тому

      Especially those guys in diesel subs. Brass balls on those boys.

  • @GrumpyIan
    @GrumpyIan Рік тому +160

    One of my favorites stories. They didn't sink the most ships but sunk the most tonnage. Basically the equivalent of going to a carnival and winning that giant stuffed Teddy Bear first try.

    • @richardjohnson4365
      @richardjohnson4365 Рік тому +24

      The US subs had been handicapped by defective torpedoes, had they had an effective weapon from Day 1, they would have sunk them all...

    • @robkunkel8833
      @robkunkel8833 Рік тому +2

      From the video of the war story, it might have been second try … or even last of many tries. A great story, brought out to a longer video with many quotations from the ship’s crew members who survived after the War.
      Question. Were these actual quotes or random conversations made up?

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +6

      Great comparison!

    • @bri-manhunter2654
      @bri-manhunter2654 Рік тому +1

      Same

    • @AlanMydland-fq2vs
      @AlanMydland-fq2vs Рік тому +1

      luck is everything

  • @alanwalker4520
    @alanwalker4520 Рік тому +20

    My nephew served on a Sub based at Guam. God bless these mariners, the underwater sailors of the seas. Great admiration for Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz that helped develop the Submarine for the U.S. Navy before and during WW1.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Thank you to him for his service! Takes a brave man

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist Рік тому +46

    This is the book I read and gave to my friend who served on the Nuclear Archerfish. It had a distinguished career after the war as well.

  • @papa_pt
    @papa_pt Рік тому +15

    This telling made me really appreciate all the strategy and reasoning required of these captains at sea

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers Рік тому +97

    Sunk on her maiden voyage by USS Archer Fish...Joe Enright was a true submariner captain. Him and his crew worked together as a cohesive unit and came out as victors.

    • @daveroche6522
      @daveroche6522 Рік тому +6

      Proper VRM (Vessel Resource Management) - boat and crew, indeed.

    • @0Zolrender0
      @0Zolrender0 Рік тому +6

      "He and his crew..."

    • @joephcordero4666
      @joephcordero4666 Рік тому

      Navy was fortunate to have him

    • @pauldietz1325
      @pauldietz1325 9 місяців тому

      The episode shows the benefit of giving officers second chances. This was something Nimitz was known for (Mitscher was another example after his misbehavior at Midway.)

  • @otpyrcralphpierre1742
    @otpyrcralphpierre1742 Рік тому +21

    Biggest ship done in by one of the Smallest ships. Well done.

  • @parrot849
    @parrot849 Рік тому +6

    Admiral Charles Lockwood was not a CO of a naval station at Midway Island ( 5:07 ). At that period of time Admiral Lockwood was commander of all U.S. Navy submarine forces in the Pacific Theater of Operations (COMSUBPAC) located at Headquarters, Pacific Fleet Submarines, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
    A small naval station like Midway Island was be run by a mire commander or some junior captain (not having been captain very long) at the most.

  • @aymonfoxc1442
    @aymonfoxc1442 Рік тому +31

    It's astounding how rarely military history channels cover the Shinano. Thanks for shining light on this story.
    You've earned my subscription!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +4

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor60 Рік тому +14

    Spent 4 months in Yokosuka Japan in 1986 while deployed on USS Cape Cod AD 43. Visited Atami City, Tokyo, and Beppu.

  • @cameronmolt5649
    @cameronmolt5649 Рік тому +16

    Excellent content. This channel is an example of why I no longer have cable. Thanks and keep it coming!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @cdfe3388
    @cdfe3388 Рік тому +25

    Archerfish was also one of the three Balao-class boats used for the production of the movie “Operation Petticoat” with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis in 1960. It’s a pretty funny movie and has a surprising level of detail in the operation of a WWII fleet sub for a comedy.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Great info! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

    • @jacoblecoy3700
      @jacoblecoy3700 Рік тому +3

      Love that movie. No, no, I paid no attention to those beautiful women!! 🦈🇺🇸🥴

    • @steveanderson6523
      @steveanderson6523 Рік тому +3

      There was a submarine in that movie???? I only remember Joan o'Brien...dunno why!

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 3 місяці тому +2

    I just searched of the sinking of the IJN Shinano, and your video is the one that I chose to watch...why? Because I really enjoy your content and how well you research your content before you post your videos. Thank you sir! Most people don't realize that Shinano was the third and final ship that was originally built to ve the final Yamato Class battleship, but due to the Japanese losses at the Battle of Midway (or AF), the Japanese converted the hull of the great ship to be the biggest carrier is Japanese history. That was never Shinano's title as she was hastily converted from a battleship into somewhat of a Jeep carrier. The title of the largest Japanese carrier went to the IJN Taiho which was also sunk by the US.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  3 місяці тому +1

      Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @larryyoung5757
    @larryyoung5757 Рік тому +22

    US Naval submarine force was the most effective and efficient of any nation, including the German U-boats, ultimately starving Japan of its overseas resources. The aggressive US sub commanders also sunk Japanese warships including their aircraft carriers.
    I believe they are the most underrated of all Allied forces in WWII.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

    • @JamesMcComas-dr2xi
      @JamesMcComas-dr2xi Рік тому +2

      Five percent of the US Navy sunk fifty five percent of Japanese shipping.

    • @BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT
      @BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT 9 місяців тому

      U Boot where a real terror, not US subs !!!!
      What are you saying ??!!

    • @larryyoung5757
      @larryyoung5757 9 місяців тому

      @@BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT I’m saying US subs dominated the Pacific shipping lanes to the very shores of Japan by the end of the war. They took out aircraft carriers too.
      The U-boats took such drastic losses they never their pens by war’s end.

    • @stevecarey2030
      @stevecarey2030 5 місяців тому

      @@BRILLSTEELMOTORSPORT UBoats were a terror until May 1943 when they became the hunted. 43 Uboats were sunk in just that month, then it was over for them. The American submarine fleet achieved in the Pacific what the Germans never could in the Atlantic. They collapsed the Japanese economy by sinking their merchant ships. And sunk many capital ships including battleships and aircraft carriers.

  • @captainobvious9233
    @captainobvious9233 Рік тому +9

    Good video, but one thing you got wrong was the Shinano was never going to be a threat to the U.S and would have done nothing to come close to trying to turn the tide of war - it wasn't even a factor - nothing more than a white elephant. When it started construction, the Japanese Carrier air arm was still large, albeit with inexperienced pilots. The Battle of the Philippine Sea decimated their carrier air arm for good and the Battle of Leyte Gulf took out most of what was left of their active carrier fleet. The Shinano was not going to be a front like carrier, but rather a support vessel carrying extra aircraft, fuel and such. So by the time it was launched, there was nothing for it to support. Even if it had been launched much earlier and used as front line carrier with a full aircrew, the pilots would have been blown out of the sky just like all their other pilots.

  • @avnrulz8587
    @avnrulz8587 Рік тому +20

    What an ignominious end for the submarine.

  • @donaldlamkin1305
    @donaldlamkin1305 Рік тому +8

    Great video! I'd never even heard of the Shinano before.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your weekend :)

  • @williamjensen365
    @williamjensen365 Рік тому +4

    Archerfish had six forward torpedo tubes. There was no "fire four, reload, fire two more."

  • @Brian-nw2bn
    @Brian-nw2bn Рік тому +24

    Your channel has become one of my favorites on the platform, irrespective of genre. The work you put in editing all of the clips is together in a seemless smooth way is incredibly impressive. It’s big channel quality we’re blessed to have found before you blow up! I’m just glad to be able to say I’ve been here from the beginning and will continue to do my small part in your success by liking, commenting, and sharing great videos like this one. Keep up the great work mate, you’ll hit 100K subs before you know it. God speed !

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +5

      Greatly appreciate the kind words Brian! Thanks for watching and have a great rest of your weekend :)

    • @maze2490
      @maze2490 Рік тому +1

      @Brian-nw2bn: Great comment ! Absolutely agree !
      Love and peace.

  • @greendragon4058
    @greendragon4058 Рік тому +9

    I love the story I read the book many years ago just sticks out my mind is one of the best submarine takedowns ever

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 Рік тому +1

      @@HiddenHistoryYT U2 thank you I absolutely love Naval History

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers Рік тому +26

    Watching the reenactment of this victory on the old TV show the Silent Service really helped put this story into perspective. If y'all have the time, look up Richard Damm. He has most of the episodes of that old 1950s TV show on his channel.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

    • @Brock_Landers
      @Brock_Landers Рік тому +2

      @@HiddenHistoryYT You too bud. Thank you for all your hard work!

    • @DarthAverage
      @DarthAverage Рік тому +3

      The part of Cmdr. Enright was played by DeForest Kelly, who went on to play Dr. McCoy in the Star Trek franchise. (There's even a scene where he calls his chief engineer and tells him to "throw out the rulebook and give me all the power you can!") 🤣

    • @davidtonkin958
      @davidtonkin958 Рік тому

  • @dlb3512
    @dlb3512 Рік тому +37

    So the Archerfish succeeded in sinking a record carrier. It is a shame that the submarine was rewarded by using her for a target. Seems to me that she could have been set up on shore somewhere as an exhibit. These boats did a grand job of winning the war and needs not to be forgotten. These exhibits serve the purpose of reminding the future generations of our history. D.Booker USN Submarine service retired.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +4

      I agree! Thank you for your service as well! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

    • @davidstruve488
      @davidstruve488 Рік тому +1

      I’m m gonna catch hell for this and I mean no disrespect to submariners or navy or marines( here it comes) but this is the way Star Trec decided to end Lieutenant Yar’s service, she was dissolved into a tarpit! How nasty could the network be, there have been many exits of characters over the decades, but Yar’s was one of the most disrespectful I can recall!

    • @reginaldvalentini6694
      @reginaldvalentini6694 Рік тому +1

      😊

  • @daveroche6522
    @daveroche6522 Рік тому +6

    Excellent presentation, factormg in all elements, including the (increasing) pressure(s) and tension on both sides. Thank you., full marks.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic weekend :)

  • @robbierobinson8819
    @robbierobinson8819 Рік тому +7

    Excellent, balanced coverage of this amazing submarine exploit. Amongst other feats, hugely contributing to defeating an enemy that could not get tolerated. But then again, what a waste. It is more than high time that humankind uses the dedication of all combatants in these wars to achieve our potential. Then again, as a 20th Century human, I greatly enjoy watching these episodes of achievement, notwithstanding the deaths and losses of loved ones.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic weekend :)

    • @jacoblecoy3700
      @jacoblecoy3700 Рік тому

      robbierobinson, Does the name USS Sarsfield EDD837, ring a bell? Key West, Fl.?. Bob Dunn, of Michigan? If so, give a yell. I was M Div. Bob was my best buddy.

  • @alfavulcan4518
    @alfavulcan4518 Рік тому +36

    Unfortunately for the Japanese there really weren’t any trained aircrews left . A new large carrier will just be a torpedo magnet. Shinano was meant to be a support carrier, replenishing the existing fleet carriers

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +4

      Great point! Appreciate you watching and have a fantastic week :)

    • @TERoss-jk9ny
      @TERoss-jk9ny Рік тому +2

      There were no damage control stations, nor proper plumbing for firefighting. They did it to themselves.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 Рік тому +4

      The Shinano was carrying several hundred ground launched versions of the Ohka Kamikaze missiles…
      The entire Japanese fleet was shot of pilots…

  • @MrMalvolio29
    @MrMalvolio29 Рік тому +32

    The IJN Shinano was *NOT*, as you put it, “the pride of the Japanese Navy.” For one thing, it was never planned as a “fleet carrier” that would engage in battle with the enemy. The Shinano was going to be a ferry carrier that moved planes from place to place in a kind of “back-up” capacity. Secondly, when the USS Archerfish sank the Shinano, it wasn’t even finished being built! Several of its water-tight doors hadn’t yet been installed, as well as several other crucial components.
    If you want to talk about an aircraft carrier that the Japanese thought of as “the pride of their Navy,” it would probably be the great carrier that served as the original flagship of the kido butai: the IJN Akagi, Admiral Nagumo’s flagship at the Battle of Midway. Its sinking by American dive bombers had a powerfully negative psychological effect on Japanese naval personnel.

    • @loftbuckleyrc
      @loftbuckleyrc Рік тому +2

      You are right,and these facts diminish the importance of the sinking. Many subs with much less tonnage sunk had accomplished way more.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Рік тому +2

      At that point in time, what ship do you think was the 'pride' (being a ship of great note and importance that provided crucial / unique capabilities) of the Imperial Japanese Navy?

    • @alanwalker4520
      @alanwalker4520 Рік тому

      I agree, it was the flagship of Admiral Nagumo that was the pride of the Imperial Japanese Naval Fleet. Once it was sunk, the Japanese Pride was destroyed.

    • @haroldscott9335
      @haroldscott9335 Рік тому

      1442,agaki

    • @haroldscott9335
      @haroldscott9335 Рік тому

      Akagi

  • @kballenger53ify
    @kballenger53ify Рік тому +5

    I Love Watching These WWII Documentaries! ⚓ I Never Knew The Shinano Was Converted From A Yamato Class Battleship!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your weekend :)

  • @DarthAverage
    @DarthAverage Рік тому +6

    Naval Intelligence's question as to whether Enright would "settle for a cruiser" wasn't out of the blue; as the video notes, they had intercepted transmissions reading "Shinano sunk". As in the US Navy, there were "naming conventions" in use in the Japanese Navy:
    -- battleships: Japanese provinces (ie, Yamato, Nagato, Fuso, etc.)
    -- heavy cruisers: mountains (Kirishima, Kongo)
    -- light cruisers: rivers (Tone, Chikuma, Chokai)
    -- aircraft carriers: real or mythical flying creatures (Shokaku ("flying crane"), Hiryu ("flying dragon"), Taiho ("great phoenix")
    Shinano, having started life as a battleship, was named for the Shinano province; however, there is also a Shinano River. Since Enright wasn't claiming a battleship (ruling out a ship named for the province), Intel concluded the Shinano referenced in the intercepts must therefore refer to a light cruiser named for the Shinano River. It took them a while to figure out that this was the missing third ship of the Yamato-class, and that (also keeping with Japanese tradition) she had retained the name under which she had originally begun construction.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Absolutely brilliant info here, thank you for sharing this! I did not place that connection myself but that does make perfect sense as you say.
      Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your week :)

  • @ArmyVet82ndAbn
    @ArmyVet82ndAbn Рік тому +5

    Good video and great info, thanks. As an ex ground-pounder army paratrooper 🪖, I cant even imagine serving in a steel tube under the sea to fight a war. No thanks lol. Respect to the navy guys who served. ⚓🚢

    • @jacoblecoy3700
      @jacoblecoy3700 Рік тому +2

      Armyvet82abn, my father was with the "All American" for about 7 years, 50--57. Broke his back. Wound up in Service Co. 505. New post commander discovered dad had lost his jump status, and Dad was transferred to 51Signal Bn. south Korea. He died of heart attack, age 42. Thank you for your service.

    • @ArmyVet82ndAbn
      @ArmyVet82ndAbn Рік тому +1

      @@jacoblecoy3700 Thanks for his service sir. My late father retired Army was a Korean war and Viet Nam vet. 3 tours with Special Forces in Nam, and I had an uncle and a first cousin who were in the 82nd also. So I had to go Airborne too, lol. And I also got hurt in a jump landing fractured 2 verterbrae in my neck. Thank you it was my honor to serve.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Thank you for your service! Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your weekend :)

  • @Imnotyourdoormat
    @Imnotyourdoormat Рік тому +5

    Shinano? Theres a girl at work named Sha-Nay-Nay.....

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      😂😂 Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

  • @davidcoleman2796
    @davidcoleman2796 Рік тому +3

    As. A lover of the pacific war your videos are very interesting. Thank you . I am a subscriber.

  • @gregbolitho9775
    @gregbolitho9775 Рік тому +5

    Nice job Archerfish, sorry bout the lost crew of the Shinano. Another ship I's love to have walked around.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching and have a great rest of your weekend :)

  • @kristoffermangila
    @kristoffermangila Рік тому +3

    To Shinano's crew, the presence of Yukikaze was also a bad omen...

  • @ToddBrooks-o5m
    @ToddBrooks-o5m Рік тому +3

    YA RIGHT !! He had the essence of a Samurai !!
    A dead one !!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for watching and have a great rest of your week :)

  • @MarktheMole
    @MarktheMole Рік тому +6

    Her 'watertight doors' were never watertight - due to Japan's chronic shortage of rubber - a problem that also crippled later designs of German U-boats, too, in the construction phase, especially the Type XX1s..

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Great point! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your weekend :)

  • @brt-jn7kg
    @brt-jn7kg 9 місяців тому +3

    This story is a very important life lesson, especially young men. It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog!!!!!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  8 місяців тому

      Yep! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

  • @mr.s2005
    @mr.s2005 Рік тому +5

    would say that carrier also has the record for having the shortest service life in history.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Probably true! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
    @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys Рік тому +7

    As a Radarman 3rd class on a Coast Guard Cutter in Vietnam I really enjoyed this video and can't help feeling bad about the way The Navy destroyed The Archer Fish and as a sailor there is nothing more horrible than to witness a sinking ship with mostly all hands aboard~!! And as Peter, Paul and Mary sang once-"When will they ever learn"?? (Ukraine)

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Thank you for your service! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @SMR3663
    @SMR3663 15 днів тому +1

    What is cool about the Archerfish is she had the least amount of ships sunk but had the most tonnage sunk .

  • @lancejohnson1406
    @lancejohnson1406 Рік тому +1

    At 1:34 you see a bunch of crapped out aircraft. Look closely. One is a Curtiss P-40E Warhawk..

  • @craigwilcox4403
    @craigwilcox4403 10 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding account of actions and tactics used by subs during WW II. Thank you from an old Airedale.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  10 місяців тому +1

      Greatly appreciate it and hope you have a fantastic weekend :)

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 Рік тому +17

    The decision to not build Shinano as a battleship actually came months before Midway, mere weeks after Pearl Harbour, as the Japanese began to shift away from battleship construction. By this point Yamato was fully operational and Musashi had been launched, so it was already too late to back out entirely (then again, literally nobody during WWII got the memo of battleships being outdated in time to not waste resources on them). Shinano, however, had been laid down far more recently (three years later) than her sister ships, so the decision was made to only complete her to the point she could be launched, so they could use her drydock for other things, and then figure out what to do with her after the war.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +5

      Great info! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams Рік тому +11

    It has to be heartbreaking to know that the submarine you served on to sink a giant carrier which resulted in honors was used for target practice and sunk.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Completely agree! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @timsteele2385
    @timsteele2385 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video!!!
    I ......."presumably assume"!!!
    Thank you for all your hard work.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your weekend :)

  • @arthurjones9580
    @arthurjones9580 Рік тому +1

    Love it. Second picture shouldve plowed the next dude

  • @anthonyiocca5683
    @anthonyiocca5683 Рік тому +6

    Significant sinking of a warship before her sea trials. If that carrier could of entered the war fully capable and fully manned, she would of caused problems. Manning the Shinino with rookie pilots is a challenge of the desperate…

  • @rickj.9202
    @rickj.9202 9 місяців тому

    This is an outstanding video in every respect. Great audio, great visuals, and a compelling story. Your voice is well-modulated and pleasing. This should be the model for other content creators! 👍🏼

  • @DrMerle-gw4wj
    @DrMerle-gw4wj Рік тому +5

    This is a most interesting video. Well done!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic weekend :)

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 11 місяців тому +2

    One of the strategies that some subs were doing was to run on the Surface full speed parallel to the targets but in addition to the lookouts both periscopes were put up ALL way to keep an eye on the target yet being completely invisible to the Carrier as the periscopes are so small , fresh eyes were cycled on these scopes to make sure that the targets would not spot the submarine body , as they were able to get far enough in front of the target they then submerge and then go in for the attack. I forget the name of the sub and captain that was successfuly doing this .

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  11 місяців тому +2

      Ahhh I know what you are talking about it and it’s escaping my mind as well. If I find it I’ll respond with it!

    • @binarysource
      @binarysource 11 місяців тому

      USS Barb - Commanded by Eugene B. Fluckey definitely did it this way, it's documented in his biography/book on his war patrols - Thunder Below! which is excellent, also the only WW2 submarine to "sink" a train and the only active landing on the japanese home islands during WWII - the man and his men where bold as all hell.

  • @taras3702
    @taras3702 Рік тому +5

    Torpedoes used by the U.S. during WW-2 blew 30-foot holes in the hulls of ships struck by them. Bad news for a vessel rushed to sea that was not seaworthy. The carrier's captain choosing not to stop the ship's engines only finished Shinano off.

  • @billywilds1779
    @billywilds1779 Рік тому +6

    As a submariner the skill of this sailors was amazing in very harsh times. You wanted a shower, wait until it rains and surface. Might be cold, but at least you got clean for at least 5 more days.

    • @maxjek2374
      @maxjek2374 Рік тому

      Do you think women should serve with men in warships and naval submarines? Salute.

    • @billywilds1779
      @billywilds1779 Рік тому +1

      You're living in cramp spaces which is bad. But, when the women come in, they are special, get the best living spaces, etc. But, we are equal right. Just can't wait for the next draft. Let's see those strong independent women serve and march 10 miles a day up and over hills, via rivers, when it rains, etc.

    • @maxjek2374
      @maxjek2374 Рік тому +1

      @@billywilds1779 I served 2.5 years in my country's military national service. Yes, all women will be better off serving the military in other non-combat roles.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your service! Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your weekend :)

    • @jacoblecoy3700
      @jacoblecoy3700 Рік тому +1

      I was stationed on three warships, USN. Then in combat in Vietnam. Personally, I do not think women should be exposed to either. Well, yes, I am from the old school in some people's beliefs. However, having seen a few women who wore the enemy's uniform, blown apart and innocent women who had been mutilated by the Viet Cong, I would not want to see any American, or other nations'
      women suffer the same fate.

  • @streetcop157
    @streetcop157 Рік тому +2

    You know it had to be awkward between the kamikaze pilots and the guys who had to practice landings

  • @maze2490
    @maze2490 Рік тому +3

    Superb Video, have many thanks!!!
    Thumbs up and subscribed immediately
    Love and peace.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @knighttuttrupriprock9733
    @knighttuttrupriprock9733 Рік тому +3

    Great storytelling, subscribed, looking forward to more videos.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your week :)

  • @jpmtlhead39
    @jpmtlhead39 Рік тому +2

    The japonese merchant ships didin't have 1/5 of the escorts has the allied convoys on the atlantic.
    Some japonese convoys didin't have any escort at all, specialy after 1943.
    Sitting ducks.

  • @Stevenowski
    @Stevenowski Рік тому +4

    Never underestimate your opponent.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Very true! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

    • @Stevenowski
      @Stevenowski Рік тому +1

      @@HiddenHistoryYT
      You as well! My dad was a WW2 Marine. He was honorably discharged at the age of 19.
      He was 14 when he enlisted. He was on Guam when the Japanese bombed it, which prevented him from getting a minority discharge. God bless you.

  • @simonjones3863
    @simonjones3863 Рік тому +5

    Good vid. Nicely done.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your week :)

  • @borninjordan7448
    @borninjordan7448 Рік тому +3

    The Shinano isn't the largest warship in history. That would be the Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carriers currently in service.

  • @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg
    @ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg Рік тому +2

    Great account of a classic war story.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @pauletters225
    @pauletters225 Рік тому +3

    the U.S. had no knowledge of the shinano, as i recall, the archerfish was credited with the sinking of a unryu class aircraft carrier at the time of the sinking, only after the war ended was it found out what it was, and as stated below, what was the point anyways, japan still had carriers, just no planes and pilots to man them,

    • @ts.elliot5870
      @ts.elliot5870 12 днів тому

      That's incorrect. A recon plane flew over the shipyard about a month before launch. The Archer Fish was on station to rescue downed bomber pilots. After the Shinano was launched there was a several day gap between bomber missions and the sub was released from search and rescue to go hunting. Look what he found. Peace.

  • @SilkyJohnston24
    @SilkyJohnston24 Рік тому +4

    Thank you!!!

  • @dogbadger
    @dogbadger Рік тому +2

    Dedicated to the crew of the USS Archerfish - who sunk a flawed ship that was rushed into service and who's escort were not equipped to counter a submarine threat.
    Never mind the near 1500 who went down with her.

  • @johnmcmickle5685
    @johnmcmickle5685 Рік тому +4

    Forty-seven airplanes would not have been that difficult for an American carrier to deal with. Remember at this point tin the war there were not a lot of experienced pilots left for the Japanese.

    • @jacoblecoy3700
      @jacoblecoy3700 Рік тому +1

      47 zeros? They did not need a lot of experience. Once they had expended their bombs, all they had to do was dive into the ship.

  • @garycoppock1447
    @garycoppock1447 Рік тому +4

    This is a great storyline ❤

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @tonysaint6749
    @tonysaint6749 9 місяців тому

    God bless you all from Australia with love and gratitude ❤️🕊️🦘🙏🇦🇺😊

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  8 місяців тому

      Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @flashgordon3715
    @flashgordon3715 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for not using stock photos from European Theater or a modern aircraft carrier. It's fine to show the same relevant photos over.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  10 місяців тому

      Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @joesc641
    @joesc641 Рік тому +4

    This is a great story of a fantastic US submarine. They could have easily turned it into a WW2 museum as they did with other subs. Why did they use the Archerfish as target practice.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      A true shame they didn’t! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

  • @nomorerepublicans825
    @nomorerepublicans825 Рік тому +2

    They didn't sink the largest warship in history, that would be the USS Gerald ford if I'm not mistaken. They sank what would be the largest ship ever sunk by a submarine.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Yep largest sunk by a submarine! Appreciate you watching and have a fantastic week :)

    • @nomorerepublicans825
      @nomorerepublicans825 Рік тому +2

      @@HiddenHistoryYT thanks you too.

  • @John-ih2bx
    @John-ih2bx Рік тому +3

    Great story!! Thank you.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @simonjones3863
    @simonjones3863 Рік тому +3

    Excellent video. Well done. ++

  • @marjorjorietillman856
    @marjorjorietillman856 Рік тому +3

    Seems like Japan was showing a bit of apathy like the Americans when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, although they were supposed to inform us 30 minutes before attack. So is this a little bit of retribution??

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Yep! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)

  • @lumberlikwidator8863
    @lumberlikwidator8863 24 дні тому

    Great presentation. I really like what I’m seeing from this channel so far!

  • @PhantomHT1320
    @PhantomHT1320 Рік тому +2

    the old black and white movie Operation Petticoat [1959] with Tony Curtis and Cary Grant is based on the USS Archerfish which led me to reading a book called Gallant Lady i believe was written by 2 of its crew.

    • @parrot849
      @parrot849 Рік тому +1

      What leads you to believe that the movie Operation Petticoat was based on the USS Archerfish?? I don’t see any similarities. By the way, the movie was in color, not black and white.

  • @ronbridges678
    @ronbridges678 Рік тому +20

    Why would our government sink a beautiful piece of American Naval history!!?? It could have been a museum ship. SMH what a waste!!!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      Ya it’s a true shame she wasn’t kept as a museum ship. Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

    • @BruceSheppard-f5n
      @BruceSheppard-f5n 10 місяців тому

      I am really sure that no one on the archerfish was thinking about "museum ships". Had she as been completed, the Shinano would have been a formidable opponent, hard to sink. She was rebuilt on the hull of one of 3 huge, heavily armored battleships, with a concrete armored flight deck. She was to have had much improved damage control and firefighting capabilities. You don't wait to make that a museum ship. You sink it as quickly and efficiently as you can.

    • @timmbentley1983
      @timmbentley1983 10 місяців тому +2

      Museum ships are very expensive. They require a private group to come up with the money. There are quite a few like the Archer Fish that I wish could have been saved.

    • @WillArtie
      @WillArtie 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@BruceSheppard-f5n I think the poster was commenting about the navy sinking the Archer Fish at the end there - not the carrier.

    • @ts.elliot5870
      @ts.elliot5870 12 днів тому

      The feeling after the end of the Second World War was let's put this whole mess behind us. The American public was war weary and starting to heal after the war. Congress slashed funding for all services and I doubt there was a thought about preserving history. It's a shame there is quite a story here.

  • @lesterpalifka1135
    @lesterpalifka1135 10 місяців тому

    I was a member of the SubVets of WWII central Connecticut chapter as an associate. I was good friend with Ed Zilinsky (now passed) who manned the tdc in the forward torpedoe room. nright had called check fire Ed didnt hear him and manually fired a torpedoe and scored a hit. Ed told me this story at one of the meetings. Also had the honory of Meetin Enright and having him sign my book "SHinano" which he wrote.

  • @davidhewson8605
    @davidhewson8605 Рік тому +4

    Common man everywere, we look after idiots. Thanks guys. Dave

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @albertseabra8993
    @albertseabra8993 Рік тому +3

    A vessel not yet finished and sailing solo, without the protection of other vessels, doesn't appear to be worth being stressed here.
    By the some token, the sinking of the Cruiser USS Indianapolis should be emphasized as major war accomplishment by the japonese .
    And the Indianapolis was fully operational, capable of reaching fantastic cruising seeps -- something that the "LARGEST Warship sunk in HISTORY by a Submarine" was unable to accomplish.
    Let´s imagine that the Indianapolis had been sunk a few days earlier.
    In route to delivering the first atomic bomb to the air base...
    Obviously, the tragic saga of the cruiser's crew was a terrible ordeal.
    However, I never read anything reagarding similar, comparable situations endured by surviving members of the Imperial Navy -- or other navies acting in WWII -- thrown into the water after their vessels' demise.
    Movies, books, were made about the Indianapolis and its crew -- lacking a scientific perspective of history.
    From a historical view point, this video also lacks historical rigor
    The war was over in 1945 -- widening the discussion and including a vast array of diversified facts and perspectives is in order.
    Note: Regarding the Atomic bomb: Facing the circumstances, I regret do assume that it had to be used.
    Brought the war to an end, saving American and even japonese lives -- in terms of casualties, the attacks on Dresden, Berlin and all major German cities killed a great more deal of civilians.
    Germany was already defeated, the air-attacks didn't destroy the population moral.
    Attacks pursued by 1.000 and even 1.500 bombers? An over-killing...

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing this, enjoyed reading it! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @johnstirling6597
    @johnstirling6597 Рік тому +2

    Just a query. What is the story with the P 40 in Japanese markings at 1:30?

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      This is all I can find so far (very bottom picture): j-aircraft.com/captured/capturedby/p40warhawk/captured_p40.htm

    • @johnstirling6597
      @johnstirling6597 Рік тому

      @@HiddenHistoryYT 👍👍

    • @johnstirling6597
      @johnstirling6597 Рік тому +1

      @@HiddenHistoryYT Thanks for that, very illuminating.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому

      @@johnstirling6597of course!

  • @garycroteau-kx9jm
    @garycroteau-kx9jm Рік тому +2

    Just serving in a submarine and Generals is a rough deal

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Oh ya! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @tkyap2524
    @tkyap2524 Рік тому +3

    A David and Goliath episode. One good fatal shot.

  • @alexbenis4726
    @alexbenis4726 11 місяців тому +2

    Hope they find her wreck one day, imagine being able to see an intact Yamato class hull?!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  11 місяців тому +1

      I agree! Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @gregsmith6756
    @gregsmith6756 6 місяців тому +2

    It was arrogant or maybe desperate of the Japanese to think they could move such a large vessel unnoticed through home waters teeming with enemy submarines.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  6 місяців тому

      Yep, they also didn’t really have a choice at the point as we had kind of destroyed their navy. Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)

  • @RussellMiller-gh7fb
    @RussellMiller-gh7fb 10 місяців тому +2

    The Shinano had the shortest lifespan of any carrier ever built thanks to the Archerfish

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @2cents149
    @2cents149 Рік тому +3

    I love a god underdog story. Well done.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 Рік тому +4

    Well done sir. Some comments: "Shook the world"? Lockwood became COMSUBPAC in February 1943; wasn't the commander of Midway subs. That guy reported to Lockwood. The Japanese naval base is pronounced "YO-KOOS-KA". BTW, where/when was the photo of Shinano taken?

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +5

      Appreciate the feedback, is always welcome! Will note for future videos. The photo shown is from her sea trials. While googling about it (I thought it was an illegal photo taken by a civilian for some reason) I actually just came across a photo taken by a B-29 from above where you can see the Shinano at the top of the frame. A little annoyed as I somehow never came across it while making the video haha. Oh well, thanks for watching and have a great rest of your week :)

    • @garys2327
      @garys2327 Рік тому +3

      @@HiddenHistoryYT I believe both those photos are in Captain Enright's book Shinano!: The Sinking of Japan's Secret Supership. In the book it is explained that the top view was taken by B29's and one of the reasons high command wanted to move it. The side view was taken by a civilian like you said that was on a tug boat in I believe Tokyo bay during the ships trials

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +3

      @@garys2327 Ah so it was by a civilian in the bay! Weirdly didn’t come back across that while looking back into it. Is the book worth getting? I have a few other American sub/commander books but not that one.
      Side note: pains me so much how scarce and of poor quality Japanese WW2 photos are

    • @garys2327
      @garys2327 Рік тому +2

      @@HiddenHistoryYT Been a long time since I read it but being that Capt Enright helped write it goes into more detail. Couple that come to mind is why he decided to set torpedo depth at 10 feet and him looking for the drawings he made to prove to HQ of what he saw.

  • @brianw612
    @brianw612 Рік тому +8

    She was not, nor intended to be a fleet carrier, she was too far along in her original construction for that purpose. Her role was a support carrier. This warship was only finished when her nation was in desperate straights. It is likely the IJN cared little to nothing about the safety of her crew by this time in the war.

  • @andrewlayton9760
    @andrewlayton9760 11 місяців тому +2

    Shinano would not have turned the tide against USS Enterprise, 6 Essex Class fleet Carriers, and 9 Independence Class Light carriers.

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)

  • @burtonporter8437
    @burtonporter8437 Рік тому +4

    That was awesome

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS Рік тому +2

    Who in their right mind gives that kind of order about survivors?

  • @padraigconlan7032
    @padraigconlan7032 Рік тому +1

    Delighted to get this young man in feel he will be a big player for us . Ps wher is Matt Hayes these days

  • @suzannakoizumi8605
    @suzannakoizumi8605 Рік тому +3

    17 hours! 😮

  • @timsteele2385
    @timsteele2385 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video!!
    I...... presumably

  • @zenongruba2607
    @zenongruba2607 Рік тому +3

    Wow.

  • @thejohnbeck
    @thejohnbeck Рік тому +2

    Enright went all Buster Douglass on Shinano
    (inspired by death of his mother)

  • @davidkimmel4216
    @davidkimmel4216 9 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful video

  • @EchoesofWarYT
    @EchoesofWarYT Рік тому +3

    Heroes

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 Рік тому +3

    great video govna!

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +1

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

  • @navalencyclopedia
    @navalencyclopedia Рік тому +8

    Certainly not the largest tonnage ratio in history: Small UB Types of WWI for example had a sinking tonnage ratio of 1/400 or 1/700 tonnes for example. But largest warship sunk by a sub, certainly. One of these 270t subs sunk the French 11,000 tons battleship Gaulois for example. The Gato class was 1600 tonnes, Shinano 62,000, thats pretty close.

  • @ronstiles2681
    @ronstiles2681 Рік тому +3

    I enjoyed this telling of history , especially by someone without a accent, not that I

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      Greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and have a fantastic week :)

    • @ronstiles2681
      @ronstiles2681 Рік тому +1

      Sorry but no interest in subscription. I just got so many notifications I had to delete them but I would happily watch more from you

    • @HiddenHistoryYT
      @HiddenHistoryYT  Рік тому +2

      @@ronstiles2681 what?

    • @ronstiles2681
      @ronstiles2681 Рік тому +1

      I was interrupted , but so many videos I see are from British , not my forte , not that they do a bad job , just where are the educated Americans , guess I sound like a winer