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Son. What if I told you, there's a system, you young folks should develop, and use, to mechanize and empower pure direct demos-kratia within a republic, like ours. I ain't joking. I'm betting, you could have us well on our way, within hours! With respect! Semper Fidelis... Standing by...
lf you're gonna do a video about an aircraft carrier, don't show a thumbnail of something that couldn't land any aircraft that existed at that time. Whatever TF that ship in the thumbnail is, a WWll aircraft, it ain't. There were no Harriers or F35's during WWll.
My father in law was a MM2 aboard the Cavalla during the carriers sinking, his battle station was aft steering since they did not use hydraulics during silent running. he died at age 94 maybe 5 years ago, RIP MM2 Phil Urban.
My late Dad was a fighter pilot with the VBF-1 aboard the USS Bennington. He and his squadron were sent on a mission on July 24th, 1945 to the Kure Naval base. He bombed the IJN Hyuga, with his bomb striking amidship. He was only 22 years old.
During the Battle of Santa Cruz, my father hit the Shokaku with a 1000 lbs. bomb from his SBD. Unfortunately his dive bomber squadron was unable to sink it but it did take Shokaku out the war for approximately 7 months.
@@HiddenHistoryYT During the Battle of the Philippine Sea, he was flying an SBD as part of Bombing16 off the USS Lexington (CV-16). For his attack on the Japanese fleet he was awarded the Navy Cross. Bombing 16, its attack on the Japanese Fleet and night-time return to the US fleet is detailed in the book, "Mission Beyond Darkness" by Lt. Com. Joseph Bryant and Phillip Reed.
Cavalla was my first submarine duty station, and I qualified in submarines on her in 1964. We continued to proudly fly the Presidential Unit Citation pennant she had been awarded for her first war patrol. We also were honored to host a member of her commissioning crew when as a reserve officer he served his annual two weeks active duty in Cavalla in 1964 - CDR Ernest "Zeke" Zellmer (an Enisgn during that first patrol and retired from USNR as a Captain). We were privileged to hear about Cavalla's exploits first hand. I believe Zeke was instrumental in establishing the old girl as a memorial in Galveston, but sadly I have been unable to visit her (I settle for seeing her on UA-cam videos). Cavalla had been commissioned on 29 Feb 1944 and thus was a leap year boat and dubbed by the crew as the "Lucky Lady." Lucky yes but manned by a brave and well-trained crew.
Damage control was a thing. After the loss of USS Hornet in October of 1942, the USN lost no more fleet carriers. The were some that were literally pulverized and turned into floating wrecks, but advanced damage control saved them. Imperial Japanese Naval carriers were not so fortunate.
The contrast between American and Japanese damage control is shocking. Pretty sure that drachinifel has a great video on it. Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your week :)
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 really? Shokaku was thought to have been done in by Aviation Gas lines that were severed and allowed for fumes/liquid fuel to ignite and cause her demise. Look into the USS Franklin and compare how that ship was virtually destroyed by internal explosions and her crew brought her back to life. Franklin has the distinction of suffering the greatest number of dead crew WITHOUT sinking. The USN had a lot to learn in the early war. It learned damage control VERY well. The IJN got marginally better, but they lost many ships that American Sailors would have saved.
@@williamashbless7904 That was the IJN Taiho...It stayed afloat for quite a while until one officer turned on a ventilation fan and a spark from the motor ignited all of those gasoline fumes, sending the shop and it's crew to their dishonorable ancestors.
USS Franklin was hit by two 500 lbs bombs; the IJN Shokaku was hit by either three or four torpedoes, resulting in significant underway damage, that together with aviation gas explosions & fuel fires resulted in her sinking. This is quite a different (initial) damage scenario than the initial damage to the Franklin.
Been aboard her a few times with friends in Galveston, Texas. She is very well preserved and an excellent example of a WWII sub. I highly recommend a visit if you are a history student. The tour is especially nice as you don't go with a tour group. Just pay the entrance fee and go aboard and search around at your leisure.
The CAVALLA visited Edgartown on Martha’s Vineyard in MA one summer for the 4th of July. She was a Navy Reserve boat and was loaded with Mk 19 and Mk 37 torpedoes, plus IIRC she had what looked like two Mk 14 fish with exercise heads on them.
One of the few USN ships I haven't been onboard. I am a Canadian. My absolute favourite is the USS North Carolina. 9 trips to see her and the state. Sounds like a trip just might be in the cards for me to Texas. Been on the USS Texas 2 times.
The soldiers, airmen and seaman in the front, but without the people who made the weapons aircraft ships ect the men and women in the front line couldn't fight. Your grandfather @jakedode was important and fed a nation .
I have been onboard the Cavalla where she sits now in Sea Wolf park on Galveston Texas. Reconfigured to resemble a modern submarine she is a monument to the brave sailors who maned her.
I find it curious that HHYT did not mention she was now a museum display. I've been there too. She sit s as she was after post war improvements. She served until decommissioning in 1969. Beside her in Seawolf park is the destroyer USS Stewart. I've been to the Battleship Texas as well (before she left for her new dry berth)
One of the things that the ijn had to do because of their critical fuel shortage was to use crude oil without refining it. This oil gave off an unusually high level of combustible vapors compared to normal bunker. Consequently it was much more combustible and dangerous
We owe so much to so few left now. Our WWII Veterans are passing into history. The best of us without doubt. I have nothing but admiration and respect for them all. The world owes Veterans a debt we could never possibly hope to repay.
Both my grandfathers were WW2 vets. While alive, they said the same thing about the Civil War generation, and I'm sure that generation said the same thing about the Revolutionary War generation. The years and wars may change, but some people serve with honor.
@@rikk319 you were fortunate to have your grandfathers and their stories. My family were all in the military, grandfather, dad, brother, sister and myself. My youngest daughter also went in the military. Dad didn’t talk of his experience. I got war stories from the veterans at our local VA hospital. My interest started with the European side of the war, later the Pacific side. Watched a lot of programs of WW2, built models of tanks, planes, ships even the PT109.
I only wish I could have realized when my parents were alive how amazing they were. I wish our schools, especially high schools would teach more about WWII and the sacrifices and bravery they gave which kept our country free. Children need to know.
If someone is interested,Taiho was hit with only one torpedo because the other one was hit by a pilot who decided to crash in the water so the torpedo could hit his plane and not the ship. A useless sacrifice because Taiho sunk anyway
Nothing tragic about sinking the Shokaku, unless you had sympathy with Japan in WWII. My dad was out there, happy to see it go down and more sooner would have been better. Lockwood almost certainly had advanced warning of Japanese fleet movements and some of that was not the Japanese fleet code cracking but a hugely underappreciated group of American Women who cracked the support fleet code and they could track fleet ops by what oiler, supplies and ammunition movements went where and when.
An interesting thing about the Pacific War is that Raymond spruance was criticized for not being aggressive enough and Bill Halsey was criticized for being too aggressive.
Then there’s Earnest King with zero actual combat experience getting upset with Jack Fletcher for the loss of the Lexington and Yorktown. Never mind the fact that he was doing on the job training at Coral Sea with all the confusion and wrong reports that would characterize carrier battles. The loss of both those carriers was sad but they came out ahead and learned valuable lessons. One book I read titled The Admirals does mention that King was pretty jealous of the fact Fletcher had been awarded the Medal Of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Veracruz.
@@mako88sb King probably had a right to be upset with it. From Wikipedia..."After the fighting ended, U.S. Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels ordered that fifty-six Medals of Honor be awarded to participants in this action, the most for any single action before or since." "The controversy surrounding the Veracruz Medals of Honor led to stricter standards for the awarding of the Medal of Honor and the establishment of lower ranking medals to recognize a wider range of accomplishments."
"HIT SHOKAKU CLASS CARRIER WITH THREE OUT OF SIX TORPEDOES . . . RECEIVED 105 DEPTH CHARGES DURING THREE HOUR PERIOD . . . HEARD FOUR TERRIFIC EXPLOSIONS IN THE DIRECTION OF TARGET TWO AND ONE HALF HOURS AFTER ATTACK . . . BELIEVE THAT BABY SANK" those were his exact words
I recently read the book "Archerfish" detailing the sinking of the Shinano and its career after the war well into the 1960s when the author was a crewmember. I gave the book to a friend who served on the nuclear powered Archerfish which succeeded it. He was very excited to get the book.
These were some of the bravest, most capable men in our nations history. I hope we have more than a few of them in our navy today. We’re going to need them…
Yes you are absolutely correct! With what is going on in our world today we need a strong group of military men to stand strong and protect America. I’m a 70yo disabled USAF VETERAN & I pray that our military is up to speed to protect our country. God save America from external forces and forces within. The Biden Criminal Family has sold our military secrets to the CCP. The Chinese own our President and America is in grave danger!! God save us all!!
As one who spent time in the engine rooms of three different navy ships back in the '60s, I can imagine the horror and uncertainty of being down "in the hole" while the ship is under attack and fires are raging. That this ship was using unrefined crude oil with combustible vapors, must have been a "horror" on the minds of senior officers who understood the danger...Partially empty fuel tanks or broken fuel lines could be as dangerous as the ammo magazines...
What a generation..children collecting scrap, women filling in the factories, nursing and whatever was needed..and the combined military forces..just incredible what they all accomplished,..def are the greatest generation ever..
It's amazing how the same generation in America and other allied countries are definitely the greatest generation! But that same generation in Germany Japan the Axis powers in general are the most evil generation. I guess it always comes down to a battle of Good versus evil. Unless both sides are you evil
@@somebodyelse836 That's what happens in war, life isn't always fair. It doesn't change the facts that generation was astronomically stronger than the current crop of fragile cupcakes.
Number one, Taiho was not the sister ships of Zuikaku and Shokaku, she was built on similar lines but she was different in a number of ways. One was that she had an enclosed bow which was unusual for carriers at that time. Second she had an armoured flight deck like many RN carriers, and that would be part of her undoing, along with learning the lesson the hard way liked the USN did at the Battle of the Coral Sea with the USS Lexington (CV-2) that you don't try to disperse fumes from a cracked avgas tank by turning on all the fans and blowing the fumes throughout the ship. When Taiho exploded, with the armoured flight deck keeping the explosion from venting in that direction, the explosion blew out her sides and bottom.
USS Cavalla is on display at Seawolf Park, on Pelican Island in Galveston Texas. She was refurbished not long ago. I have toured her twice. It is amazing to see how small she seems, moored next to USS Stewart (DE-238) The Boy Scouts have hosted sleep overs on both ships.
I haven't actually watched it but I have "watched" most of it lol. It's probably my most used footage throughout my videos. Basically the only thing out there that has clips of an aircraft carrier in WW2 being sunk and a lot of good American submarine footage. Appreciate you watching and have a great rest of your week :)
I carry same gun I used in Europe, the Army A1 .45. I don't need seven rounds, I only need ONE, any hit with the .45 APC and the perp' is finished, an arm hit can tear his arm off, he's finished.... and so are the other six.
My father fought the Japanese for 3 years in the south Pacific in WWII. He would in no way considered this a "tragic" story. What was tragic was 400,000 civilians being murdered as the Jaoanese army retreated from Manila,
Agreed. Neither would the millions of various Asian nationals that suffered under Japanese brutality and exploitation. The Imperial Japanese armed forces committed, or assisted, in barbarous war crimes. Japan today is not the Japan of the fascist 30's and 40's - good folks, now.
The Cavalla is on display at Seawolf Park in Galveston, Texas. Last time I saw it ( several years ago) wasn’t looking so good but they were working on it
1st time viewer, new subscriber...This was really interesting. I'd watched other vids on the topic, but you did a great job of not just illustrating the battle, but the events before & after...Look fwd to future content. 😉👍✌️
Pss't! Spruance was the US 5th Fleet with the Fast Fleet Carriers and modern Battleships. The 7th Fleet was the slower moving Invasion Fleet that included all the Marine Landing Ships, the old slow Standard Battleships and some Escort Carriers for close air support of the landings.
Actually, 3rd and 5th fleet were the same ships. The difference being who was in command, Halsey or Spruance. They alternated command. One on the beach planning the next operation and one at sea executing the current offensive.
@@andrewtaylor940 it was only 5th fleet for the Mariana's. The carriers were task force 58. The landing forces were Task Force 51 (joint expeditionary force). Under Admiral Kelly Turner (not Thompson). The northern attack force TF 52 was also under Admiral turner. Under that TF were multiple task groups of transports, fire support and carrier support. The fire support groups with the OBB's were TG 52.17 under Admiral Olendorf and TG 52.10 under Admiral Ainsworth.
“Dropped anchor off Saipan”……US subs didn’t take anchors on war patrols, nor stanchions and lifelines due to concerns that the chain locker could be burst open during depth charging and drag the sub to crush depth and no lifelines to due concerns that mines could get snagged on the stanchions and drag the mine onto the sub.
The destruction of the shokaku is absolutely brutal. Imagine being on the deck as a japanese sailor as the deck slants further and further beneath the waves and then a series of explosions go off and obliterate the ship
My mother's 1st cousin Joseph Schuh, was a Catalina "flying boat" pilot, aboard Enterprise. He survived the war, and later I believe attained the rank of Ltd. Commander aboard the new Enterprise. RIP Joe Schuh!
I remember after joining the US navy in playing a number of WW2 board games I was surprised at how badly Japan stood up against the US navy prior to the US navy. Japan had only 12 battleships, two of which were only completed after the Pearl Harbor attack. The US navy had 22 or so? Japan had only 10 total aircraft carriers leading up to Dec. 7th, 1941. Six fleet & four escort carriers. Japan would lose 5 of these carriers in May-June 1942, 4 fleet & 1 small escort carrier. Admiral Yamamoto was 100% right in his views of going to war with the USA before WW2. Japan never ever really had any chance for victory. Shalom
@@kristoffermangila Yamamoto's position was much the same as Hannibal's versus Rome in the Second Punic War--he was fighting against a nation that had a greater population and economy, and had to achieve quick, early victories to bring them to the bargaining table. In both instances, the other nation (Rome/USA) refused to buckle under initial losses, and played the long game, winning in the end.
@@frankquevedo6001 its attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto himself. He was a naval attaché in Washington in the 1930s, and thus knew the enormous potential of American industry, compared to Japan's.
You mentioned surigao strait initially as an element of the Japanese attack forces, but didn’t add it to your summary of the overwhelming defeat the IJN suffered during the campaign. The IJN southern force was decimated at the hands of Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf. He had anticipated the IJN’s traverse through the strait, and prepared a night battle (using their vastly superior radar fire-control). As his seventh fleet awaited, spanning across the strait, the Japanese approached in a single line. It was the last time a naval commander ever executed the mythical tactic of “crossing the tee”, and also the last battleship-on-battleship action in history, marking the end of the “battle line era” going back to the 1600’s. The IJN lost two battleships, a heavy cruiser, and three destroyers. The US losses? 39 men. Just as Cavalla had avenged Pearl Harbor with the sinking of Shokaku, West Virginia (who had been SUNK at Pearl Harbor) fired a total of 16 salvos (her first likely hitting the bridge of Yamashiro even at the extreme range and in the dark).
That was months later at the battle of Leyte Gulf…Shokaku was sunk during the battle of the Philippine Sea mid-June of ‘44 during the invasion of Saipan. What you described is 100% what happened, just later on in October of the same year.
We should appreciate that the history, when written by their own WWII historians, distort most of how and especially why it happened. Fascinating to me the development further of the culture, in light of the ownership thing. Still veneration toward the Emperor Hirohito felt by a big senior population.
The U boat service was the most UNSUNG of the entire wsr. The American U boat crews were instrumental in the demise of General Ozawas forces sinking 2 of his best carriers before even encountering the american carrier forces. EVERY SINGLE MAN ON THOSE U BOATS DESERVES A MEDAL FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE BRAVERY .
I think the actual peace treaty was signed in 1952 but it was signed in California I believe San Diego. That's in contrary with Russia and Japan who have never signed a peace treaty from world War II
The Japanese had one particular fatal flaw, their service men, whether flyers, sailors, or ground troops owed their lives to the emperor and it was an honor for them to die for the emperor. So every experienced flyer, sailor, and ground troop with that in mind, did not really pass on their training and experience, the battle of midway saw the Japanese lose the cream of their experienced flyers, while this was due to being killed in their cockpits before they could take off, it was a loss that Japan would not recover from, however if these had been rotated out to the flight schools before midway they could have trained the new flyers and passed on their experience.
This was and excellent story about this Japanese Carrier, with only one detail that you got wrong! There was nothing but glory and honorable men that sunk this ship. So when it sunk IT WAS A GREAT DAY FOR AMERICAN NAVAL NAVIGATORS! Glory to the the bottom of the sea! With great reasoning!
Amercan submarines did a great job reporting enemy fleet movements, and also sinking many warships and cargo transports. They did such a good job, Japan was practically defeated before the atomic bombs were released on Japanese soil.
@@jerrycottrell302 one of the main flaws of the Mk XIV torpedo is that the firing pin is not lightweight enough. The guys at the Pearl Harbor Submarine Base, who were charged by Charles Lockwood in correcting the torp's flaws, found the right material for the firing pin. The material? Aluminum, specifically, the type found on Japanese aircraft propellers.
Appreciate the feedback, I’ve tried to include more maps of places in my recent/future videos! Hope you notice a difference! Thanks for watching and have a great week :)
Cavalla was transferred to the Texas Submarine Veterans of World War II. She now resides at Galveston Naval Museum in Seawolf Park on Pelican Island, just north of Galveston, Texas.
Back when America was great, we had The Greatest Generation. Fast-Forward 80 years: My nephew had a near-perfect score on the SAT and was offered a full-ride scholarship to the U.S. Naval Academy and Air Force Academy. After watching the debacle in Kabul and Joe Biden checking his watch during the off-loading of the 13 dead servicemen (whose deaths Joe himself was responsible for), my nephew turned down both offers.
Remember this, it took two Atomic bombs...in two different cities, to force Japan to surrender. Unfortunately, Japan did not surrender after the first Atomic bomb blast. America dropped a second Atomic bomb....then Japan surrendered and stopped all hostilities. Sad but true.
Always wondered why the Japanese never seemed to be very good at ASW. If a U boat had lucked into the same position on an allied CV (Post 1943) firing her fish would have been a guaranteed death sentence. Was it radar? training? active/passive sonar or a combination of factors?
Coordination is one element, but they were also limited by poor equipment and vastly out-classes in radar/sonar technology by this point in the war. The fact that captain reported no sonar activity post-attack is telling. The US had also amassed considerable data on Japanese tactics and capabilities, and based their training and doctrine on this data - the IJN didn’t appear to adapt nearly to that extent.
It was not the US 7th Fleet, that was "Dugout Doug's" 'Navy. The US carrier fleet was the 5th Fleet when commanded by Admiral Spruance and the 3rd Fleet under Admiral Halsay. This was done to try to confuse the Japanese. And while I'm here, it probably would have turned out even better for the USN if Halsay had been in command in the Philippine Sea, and Spruance at Leyte Gulf. Spruance was cautious and Halsey a bit of a loose cannon.
Ive always wondered why Subs of that era didnt use some sort of breather/exhaust buoy while they were at periscope depth to gain the diesel engine power and keep speed?
Don't forget that America dropped two Atomic bombs on two Japanese cities...which ended the war with Japan. Who remembers the pilot's name that dropped both attomic bombs on Japan? I met him for a job interview in the early 1980's. I wasn't interested in the job but I wanted to meet the man that dropped two atomic bombs on Japan.
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Son. What if I told you, there's a system, you young folks should develop, and use, to mechanize and empower pure direct demos-kratia within a republic, like ours.
I ain't joking. I'm betting, you could have us well on our way, within hours!
With respect!
Semper Fidelis...
Standing by...
lf you're gonna do a video about an aircraft carrier, don't show a thumbnail of something that couldn't land any aircraft that existed at that time. Whatever TF that ship in the thumbnail is, a WWll aircraft, it ain't. There were no Harriers or F35's during WWll.
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My father in law was a MM2 aboard the Cavalla during the carriers sinking, his battle station was aft steering since they did not use hydraulics during silent running. he died at age 94 maybe 5 years ago, RIP MM2 Phil Urban.
Thank you to him for his service, and that is very interesting! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
Have you visited the Cavalla in Galveston?
No but he used to go to annual reunions. @@kristoffermangila
My late Dad was a fighter pilot with the VBF-1 aboard the USS Bennington. He and his squadron were sent on a mission on July 24th, 1945 to the Kure Naval base. He bombed the IJN Hyuga, with his bomb striking amidship. He was only 22 years old.
Wow! Thank you to him for his service, he’s a hero! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
They were real men in those days Audie Murphy was only 19 when he received his Medal of honor. Your Dad was one hell of a man.
During the Battle of Santa Cruz, my father hit the Shokaku with a 1000 lbs. bomb from his SBD. Unfortunately his dive bomber squadron was unable to sink it but it did take Shokaku out the war for approximately 7 months.
Wow! Thank you to him for his service, he is a hero! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
@@HiddenHistoryYT During the Battle of the Philippine Sea, he was flying an SBD as part of Bombing16 off the USS Lexington (CV-16). For his attack on the Japanese fleet he was awarded the Navy Cross. Bombing 16, its attack on the Japanese Fleet and night-time return to the US fleet is detailed in the book, "Mission Beyond Darkness" by Lt. Com. Joseph Bryant and Phillip Reed.
awesome!
May not have sunk it, but taking it out of the fight for 7 months is quite an achievement. Just flying a plane difficult enough.....
@@BP-1988Name and/or squadron/flight designation for when we read the book, please.
Cavalla was my first submarine duty station, and I qualified in submarines on her in 1964. We continued to proudly fly the Presidential Unit Citation pennant she had been awarded for her first war patrol. We also were honored to host a member of her commissioning crew when as a reserve officer he served his annual two weeks active duty in Cavalla in 1964 - CDR Ernest "Zeke" Zellmer (an Enisgn during that first patrol and retired from USNR as a Captain). We were privileged to hear about Cavalla's exploits first hand. I believe Zeke was instrumental in establishing the old girl as a memorial in Galveston, but sadly I have been unable to visit her (I settle for seeing her on UA-cam videos). Cavalla had been commissioned on 29 Feb 1944 and thus was a leap year boat and dubbed by the crew as the "Lucky Lady." Lucky yes but manned by a brave and well-trained crew.
Thank you for your service, and this very cool information! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
"All Gave Some......Some Gave All" God Bless American and it's Brave Soldiers and Sailors......
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Damage control was a thing. After the loss of USS Hornet in October of 1942, the USN lost no more fleet carriers. The were some that were literally pulverized and turned into floating wrecks, but advanced damage control saved them.
Imperial Japanese Naval carriers were not so fortunate.
The contrast between American and Japanese damage control is shocking. Pretty sure that drachinifel has a great video on it.
Thanks for watching and have a fantastic rest of your week :)
no amount of damage control can prevent a ship from sinking if it was hit in the same fashion as the shokaku
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 really? Shokaku was thought to have been done in by Aviation Gas lines that were severed and allowed for fumes/liquid fuel to ignite and cause her demise.
Look into the USS Franklin and compare how that ship was virtually destroyed by internal explosions and her crew brought her back to life.
Franklin has the distinction of suffering the greatest number of dead crew WITHOUT sinking.
The USN had a lot to learn in the early war. It learned damage control VERY well. The IJN got marginally better, but they lost many ships that American Sailors would have saved.
@@williamashbless7904 That was the IJN Taiho...It stayed afloat for quite a while until one officer turned on a ventilation fan and a spark from the motor ignited all of those gasoline fumes, sending the shop and it's crew to their dishonorable ancestors.
USS Franklin was hit by two 500 lbs bombs; the IJN Shokaku was hit by either three or four torpedoes, resulting in significant underway damage, that together with aviation gas explosions & fuel fires resulted in her sinking. This is quite a different (initial) damage scenario than the initial damage to the Franklin.
Been aboard her a few times with friends in Galveston, Texas. She is very well preserved and an excellent example of a WWII sub. I highly recommend a visit if you are a history student. The tour is especially nice as you don't go with a tour group. Just pay the entrance fee and go aboard and search around at your leisure.
I've been to Pelican Island also and been on board her twice
Very cool! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
The CAVALLA visited Edgartown on Martha’s Vineyard in MA one summer for the 4th of July. She was a Navy Reserve boat and was loaded with Mk 19 and Mk 37 torpedoes, plus IIRC she had what looked like two Mk 14 fish with exercise heads on them.
One of the few USN ships I haven't been onboard. I am a Canadian. My absolute favourite is the USS North Carolina. 9 trips to see her and the state.
Sounds like a trip just might be in the cards for me to Texas. Been on the USS Texas 2 times.
My grandpa was a farmer in ww2 and grew corn and wheat for the soldiers, sailors and pilots to eat.
GOD bless him!!!
Thank you for your grandpa's selfless and often unappreciated tireless work.
National defense is a national effort. The farmer is every bit as important as the soldier. Staying free as a people is a team effort!👍👍
Yes. Everybody helped win.
The soldiers, airmen and seaman in the front, but without the people who made the weapons aircraft ships ect the men and women in the front line couldn't fight.
Your grandfather @jakedode was important and fed a nation .
I have been onboard the Cavalla where she sits now in Sea Wolf park on Galveston Texas. Reconfigured to resemble a modern submarine she is a monument to the brave sailors who maned her.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
I find it curious that HHYT did not mention she was now a museum display. I've been there too. She sit s as she was after post war improvements. She served until decommissioning in 1969. Beside her in Seawolf park is the destroyer USS Stewart. I've been to the Battleship Texas as well (before she left for her new dry berth)
One of the things that the ijn had to do because of their critical fuel shortage was to use crude oil without refining it. This oil gave off an unusually high level of combustible vapors compared to normal bunker. Consequently it was much more combustible and dangerous
Great information !
I didn't know that, thanks
Good information. Makes sense
That makes complete sense. Thanks!
NEVER "Over extend" your supply lines.
This commander had a little bit of luck sinking shakako on his first patrol but also alot of skill. Terrific story.
Thanks for watching and have a great week :)
Shokaku*
@@robertyoung3992 yes, that is the correct spelling.
We owe so much to so few left now. Our WWII Veterans are passing into history. The best of us without doubt. I have nothing but admiration and respect for them all. The world owes Veterans a debt we could never possibly hope to repay.
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Yes we do. My father survived, The Bataan Death March, Korea and Vietnam. He died a couple of weeks after his 99th birthday during 2018.
Both my grandfathers were WW2 vets. While alive, they said the same thing about the Civil War generation, and I'm sure that generation said the same thing about the Revolutionary War generation. The years and wars may change, but some people serve with honor.
@@rikk319 you were fortunate to have your grandfathers and their stories. My family were all in the military, grandfather, dad, brother, sister and myself. My youngest daughter also went in the military. Dad didn’t talk of his experience. I got war stories from the veterans at our local VA hospital. My interest started with the European side of the war, later the Pacific side. Watched a lot of programs of WW2, built models of tanks, planes, ships even the PT109.
I only wish I could have realized when my parents were alive how amazing they were. I wish our schools, especially high schools would teach more about WWII and the sacrifices and bravery they gave which kept our country free. Children need to know.
If someone is interested,Taiho was hit with only one torpedo because the other one was hit by a pilot who decided to crash in the water so the torpedo could hit his plane and not the ship. A useless sacrifice because Taiho sunk anyway
Thanks for watching & have a great week :)
@@HiddenHistoryYT thanks,you too.
Nothing tragic about sinking the Shokaku, unless you had sympathy with Japan in WWII. My dad was out there, happy to see it go down and more sooner would have been better. Lockwood almost certainly had advanced warning of Japanese fleet movements and some of that was not the Japanese fleet code cracking but a hugely underappreciated group of American Women who cracked the support fleet code and they could track fleet ops by what oiler, supplies and ammunition movements went where and when.
I agree, bad wording on my part! Thank you to your dad for his service, he’s a hero! Appreciate you watching and have a great weekend :)
Great video! I just visited USS Cavalla today
Greatly appreciate it! That sounds awesome, I still need to see all the ships down there. Thanks for watching and have a great week :)
I quote,I believe that baby sunk was his words.Thanks hidden history for a superb video.
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What a way to go on your first assignment in a submarine and sync, one of the biggest aircraft carriers in existence at that time
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An interesting thing about the Pacific War is that Raymond spruance was criticized for not being aggressive enough and Bill Halsey was criticized for being too aggressive.
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Then there’s Earnest King with zero actual combat experience getting upset with Jack Fletcher for the loss of the Lexington and Yorktown. Never mind the fact that he was doing on the job training at Coral Sea with all the confusion and wrong reports that would characterize carrier battles. The loss of both those carriers was sad but they came out ahead and learned valuable lessons. One book I read titled The Admirals does mention that King was pretty jealous of the fact Fletcher had been awarded the Medal Of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Veracruz.
@@mako88sb I was going to mention him would made it a much longer post
@@mako88sb King probably had a right to be upset with it. From Wikipedia..."After the fighting ended, U.S. Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels ordered that fifty-six Medals of Honor be awarded to participants in this action, the most for any single action before or since." "The controversy surrounding the Veracruz Medals of Honor led to stricter standards for the awarding of the Medal of Honor and the establishment of lower ranking medals to recognize a wider range of accomplishments."
@@mako88sb Coral Sea shouldve been 2-0 for the IJN. Fletcher's result was a complete strategic win. Taking out 1/3rd of the ijn carrier fleet
"HIT SHOKAKU CLASS CARRIER WITH THREE OUT OF SIX TORPEDOES . . . RECEIVED 105 DEPTH CHARGES DURING THREE HOUR PERIOD . . . HEARD FOUR TERRIFIC EXPLOSIONS IN THE DIRECTION OF TARGET TWO AND ONE HALF HOURS AFTER ATTACK . . . BELIEVE THAT BABY SANK" those were his exact words
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I recently read the book "Archerfish" detailing the sinking of the Shinano and its career after the war well into the 1960s when the author was a crewmember. I gave the book to a friend who served on the nuclear powered Archerfish which succeeded it. He was very excited to get the book.
Archerfish sank Shinano, off Japan.
I will have to check that out! Sounds very interesting
These were some of the bravest, most capable men in our nations history. I hope we have more than a few of them in our navy today. We’re going to need them…
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They're always needed, war or peace. The price of peace is eternal vigilance.
Yes you are absolutely correct! With what is going on in our world today we need a strong group of military men to stand strong and protect America. I’m a 70yo disabled USAF VETERAN & I pray that our military is up to speed to protect our country. God save America from external forces and forces within. The Biden Criminal Family has sold our military secrets to the CCP. The Chinese own our President and America is in grave danger!! God save us all!!
Why? Is Godzilla on the move?
i love how the thumbnail isnt exactly shokaku
As one who spent time in the engine rooms of three different navy ships back in the '60s, I can imagine the horror and uncertainty of being down "in the hole" while the ship is under attack and fires are raging. That this ship was using unrefined crude oil with combustible vapors, must have been a "horror" on the minds of senior officers who understood the danger...Partially empty fuel tanks or broken fuel lines could be as dangerous as the ammo magazines...
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You can tour Cavalla today. She's in a park near Galveston, Texas. If you are claustrophobic don't go aboard. The crew lived in a tiny space.
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What a generation..children collecting scrap, women filling in the factories, nursing and whatever was needed..and the combined military forces..just incredible what they all accomplished,..def are the greatest generation ever..
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It's amazing how the same generation in America and other allied countries are definitely the greatest generation! But that same generation in Germany Japan the Axis powers in general are the most evil generation. I guess it always comes down to a battle of Good versus evil. Unless both sides are you evil
They also interned innocent immigrants
@@somebodyelse836 That's what happens in war, life isn't always fair. It doesn't change the facts that generation was astronomically stronger than the current crop of fragile cupcakes.
@@vonclod123 typical response from the non affected
Number one, Taiho was not the sister ships of Zuikaku and Shokaku, she was built on similar lines but she was different in a number of ways. One was that she had an enclosed bow which was unusual for carriers at that time. Second she had an armoured flight deck like many RN carriers, and that would be part of her undoing, along with learning the lesson the hard way liked the USN did at the Battle of the Coral Sea with the USS Lexington (CV-2) that you don't try to disperse fumes from a cracked avgas tank by turning on all the fans and blowing the fumes throughout the ship. When Taiho exploded, with the armoured flight deck keeping the explosion from venting in that direction, the explosion blew out her sides and bottom.
Wow, I love that Submarine.,👍👍👍
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USS Cavalla is on display at Seawolf Park, on Pelican Island in Galveston Texas.
She was refurbished not long ago.
I have toured her twice. It is amazing to see how small she seems, moored next to USS Stewart (DE-238)
The Boy Scouts have hosted sleep overs on both ships.
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There was a tv show in the 1950's called The Silent Service. They had an episode about the Cavalla. It's on UA-cam. Worth watching.
I haven't actually watched it but I have "watched" most of it lol. It's probably my most used footage throughout my videos. Basically the only thing out there that has clips of an aircraft carrier in WW2 being sunk and a lot of good American submarine footage.
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Thank you, great content as per usual.
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I carry same gun I used in Europe, the Army A1 .45. I don't need seven rounds, I only need ONE, any hit with the .45 APC and the perp' is finished, an arm hit can tear his arm off, he's finished.... and so are the other six.
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My father fought the Japanese for 3 years in the south Pacific in WWII. He would in no way considered this a "tragic" story. What was tragic was 400,000 civilians being murdered as the Jaoanese army retreated from Manila,
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They were not honorable warriors because theyve massacred helpless people and babies.theyre barbaric creatures.
Agreed. Neither would the millions of various Asian nationals that suffered under Japanese brutality and exploitation. The Imperial Japanese armed forces committed, or assisted, in barbarous war crimes. Japan today is not the Japan of the fascist 30's and 40's - good folks, now.
@@brianhammer5107Yeah, they had to be shamed and beaten to see the errors in their ways.
@@davidtwliew616 The Imperialists did - most Japanese were just civilians w/o power - trying to get along in a police state.
Nimitz himself cheered when Shokaku went down, given what she'd gotten up to in 1942 alongside her sister.
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The Cavalla is on display at Seawolf Park in Galveston, Texas. Last time I saw it ( several years ago) wasn’t looking so good but they were working on it
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@@HiddenHistoryYTCurrently the Texas is in Galveston. She still doesn’t have a new home yet. So yes both are currently in Galveston
With a target that beautiful and unprepared you'd almost have to suspect a trap. Must have been a hell of a rush.
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There was nothing TRAGIC! It was GLORIOUS!
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Absolutely!
Another excellent video, thank you
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Taiho was her own class of carrier,not a sister.Zuikaku was the sister to Shoekaku
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1st time viewer, new subscriber...This was really interesting. I'd watched other vids on the topic, but you did a great job of not just illustrating the battle, but the events before & after...Look fwd to future content. 😉👍✌️
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Saipan appears to have changed drastically since I was there in 2000
How was it?
Very quiet. Beaches were empty. Scuba great, but only saw one Whitetip
Pss't! Spruance was the US 5th Fleet with the Fast Fleet Carriers and modern Battleships. The 7th Fleet was the slower moving Invasion Fleet that included all the Marine Landing Ships, the old slow Standard Battleships and some Escort Carriers for close air support of the landings.
Actually, 3rd and 5th fleet were the same ships. The difference being who was in command, Halsey or Spruance. They alternated command. One on the beach planning the next operation and one at sea executing the current offensive.
The 7th Fleet was under Admiral Kinkaid, who reported to MacArthur.
@@alanstone3184 Kinkaid had it for Leyte. But I thought Kelly Thompson had it for Forager? The old Standards were directly under Thompson at Saipan.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer And which fleet was sharpshooter Adm. Lee with?
@@andrewtaylor940 it was only 5th fleet for the Mariana's. The carriers were task force 58. The landing forces were Task Force 51 (joint expeditionary force). Under Admiral Kelly Turner (not Thompson). The northern attack force TF 52 was also under Admiral turner. Under that TF were multiple task groups of transports, fire support and carrier support.
The fire support groups with the OBB's were TG 52.17 under Admiral Olendorf and TG 52.10 under Admiral Ainsworth.
“Dropped anchor off Saipan”……US subs didn’t take anchors on war patrols, nor stanchions and lifelines due to concerns that the chain locker could be burst open during depth charging and drag the sub to crush depth and no lifelines to due concerns that mines could get snagged on the stanchions and drag the mine onto the sub.
Shokaku arguably the best aircraft carrier of its time. With a speed of 34 knots, is the fastest carrier in WW2.
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I want to see CGI movies about Jutland, Cape Matapan, the Philippine Sea, Leyte Gulf and the Falklands war.
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The destruction of the shokaku is absolutely brutal. Imagine being on the deck as a japanese sailor as the deck slants further and further beneath the waves and then a series of explosions go off and obliterate the ship
My mother's 1st cousin Joseph Schuh, was a Catalina "flying boat" pilot, aboard Enterprise. He survived the war, and later I believe attained the rank of Ltd. Commander aboard the new Enterprise. RIP Joe Schuh!
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Well done my friend.
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Well presented. TY
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Not all of Naval Intelligence analysis was CRACKING codes . Extra tedious and melodramatic at once? I am a IJN Symp.
I remember after joining the US navy in playing a number of WW2 board games I was surprised at how badly Japan stood up against the US navy prior to the US navy. Japan had only 12 battleships, two of which were only completed after the Pearl Harbor attack. The US navy had 22 or so? Japan had only 10 total aircraft carriers leading up to Dec. 7th, 1941. Six fleet & four escort carriers. Japan would lose 5 of these carriers in May-June 1942, 4 fleet & 1 small escort carrier.
Admiral Yamamoto was 100% right in his views of going to war with the USA before WW2. Japan never ever really had any chance for victory. Shalom
Yamamoto's exact words were:
"For a year or so I can run wild. After that, I don't know."
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@@kristoffermangila Yamamoto's position was much the same as Hannibal's versus Rome in the Second Punic War--he was fighting against a nation that had a greater population and economy, and had to achieve quick, early victories to bring them to the bargaining table. In both instances, the other nation (Rome/USA) refused to buckle under initial losses, and played the long game, winning in the end.
I’m not sure who made this quote; ‘attacking Pearl Harbor, has only awakened a sleeping giant!’ BROTHER, he got that right!
@@frankquevedo6001 its attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto himself. He was a naval attaché in Washington in the 1930s, and thus knew the enormous potential of American industry, compared to Japan's.
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You mentioned surigao strait initially as an element of the Japanese attack forces, but didn’t add it to your summary of the overwhelming defeat the IJN suffered during the campaign.
The IJN southern force was decimated at the hands of Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf. He had anticipated the IJN’s traverse through the strait, and prepared a night battle (using their vastly superior radar fire-control).
As his seventh fleet awaited, spanning across the strait, the Japanese approached in a single line. It was the last time a naval commander ever executed the mythical tactic of “crossing the tee”, and also the last battleship-on-battleship action in history, marking the end of the “battle line era” going back to the 1600’s.
The IJN lost two battleships, a heavy cruiser, and three destroyers. The US losses? 39 men.
Just as Cavalla had avenged Pearl Harbor with the sinking of Shokaku, West Virginia (who had been SUNK at Pearl Harbor) fired a total of 16 salvos (her first likely hitting the bridge of Yamashiro even at the extreme range and in the dark).
That was months later at the battle of Leyte Gulf…Shokaku was sunk during the battle of the Philippine Sea mid-June of ‘44 during the invasion of Saipan. What you described is 100% what happened, just later on in October of the same year.
Nice work 👌 thanx for sharing 👍
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We should appreciate that the history, when written by their own WWII historians, distort most of how and especially why it happened. Fascinating to me the development further of the culture, in light of the ownership thing. Still veneration toward the Emperor Hirohito felt by a big senior population.
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Submariners, either extremely brave or totally mad. Probably a mixture of both.
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we built 28 subs in my city, submariners come here for reunions,...they tell me they are on a sub to come home in one piece, or die quickly
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Rum and Coke
The U boat service was the most UNSUNG of the entire wsr. The American U boat crews were instrumental in the demise of General Ozawas forces sinking 2 of his best carriers before even encountering the american carrier forces. EVERY SINGLE MAN ON THOSE U BOATS DESERVES A MEDAL FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE BRAVERY .
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Its tough to sink a Shokaku. Sometimes you have to flush three or four times.
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I think the actual peace treaty was signed in 1952 but it was signed in California I believe San Diego. That's in contrary with Russia and Japan who have never signed a peace treaty from world War II
The Japanese had one particular fatal flaw, their service men, whether flyers, sailors, or ground troops owed their lives to the emperor and it was an honor for them to die for the emperor.
So every experienced flyer, sailor, and ground troop with that in mind, did not really pass on their training and experience, the battle of midway saw the Japanese lose the cream of their experienced flyers, while this was due to being killed in their cockpits before they could take off, it was a loss that Japan would not recover from, however if these had been rotated out to the flight schools before midway they could have trained the new flyers and passed on their experience.
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American Heroes that turned the tide of the war. God bless America 🇺🇲
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Great video as always. Habe a good day
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This was and excellent story about this Japanese Carrier, with only one detail that you got wrong! There was nothing but glory and honorable men that sunk this ship. So when it sunk IT WAS A GREAT DAY FOR AMERICAN NAVAL NAVIGATORS! Glory to the the bottom of the sea! With great reasoning!
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the narrator says: tragic story of shokaku humm i think many U S sailors would say the only good japanese carrier is one taking on water
A real hero
I love the Greatest Generation. Sad that they are passing.
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God bless everyone of those warriors for our freedoms
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The good ole days
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Bravo Zulo.. job well done shipmates..
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Amercan submarines did a great job reporting enemy fleet movements, and also sinking many warships and cargo transports. They did such a good job, Japan was practically defeated before the atomic bombs were released on Japanese soil.
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@@HiddenHistoryYTThanks to you for making this clearly explained video. Regards
Kossler was a bit eccentric. He knew his subs, but carried around an empty glass everywhere he went 😏
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Just looking at those ships I get spooked!
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By the time of the Battle of the Phillipine Sea Pacific fleet submarines finally had torpedoes that worked!
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Navy Torpedo Station worked round the clock t make exploders that worked properly !!!😊🎉😅
@@jerrycottrell302 one of the main flaws of the Mk XIV torpedo is that the firing pin is not lightweight enough. The guys at the Pearl Harbor Submarine Base, who were charged by Charles Lockwood in correcting the torp's flaws, found the right material for the firing pin. The material? Aluminum, specifically, the type found on Japanese aircraft propellers.
It would have been nice if a few maps were included.
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Great story.
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Very interesting documentary.
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Excellent 👌 👌 👌
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Cavalla was transferred to the Texas Submarine Veterans of World War II. She now resides at Galveston Naval Museum in Seawolf Park on Pelican Island, just north of Galveston, Texas.
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USN subs really went to town after the torpedoes got better.
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You forgot Ozawa had coordinated with the ground units to attack-from airports! That pretty much equaled up the amount of airplanes used!
Not really. The US had pretty much destroyed any Japanese airpower in the Mariana's before the battle took place.
Honor our heroes.
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To the crew "Well Done"
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I'm adjusted to the older gentlemen narrative voices
This video gained you a sub
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Back when America was great, we had The Greatest Generation.
Fast-Forward 80 years: My nephew had a near-perfect score on the SAT and was offered a full-ride scholarship to the U.S. Naval Academy and Air Force Academy. After watching the debacle in Kabul and Joe Biden checking his watch during the off-loading of the 13 dead servicemen (whose deaths Joe himself was responsible for), my nephew turned down both offers.
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Remember this, it took two Atomic bombs...in two different cities, to force Japan to surrender. Unfortunately, Japan did not surrender after the first Atomic bomb blast. America dropped a second Atomic bomb....then Japan surrendered and stopped all hostilities. Sad but true.
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Talk about David slaying Goliath.
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Excellent leadership
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What a transformation. A lot of volunteer trees made the landscape look bad.
Always wondered why the Japanese never seemed to be very good at ASW. If a U boat had lucked into the same position on an allied CV (Post 1943) firing her fish would have been a guaranteed death sentence. Was it radar? training? active/passive sonar or a combination of factors?
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Coordination is one element, but they were also limited by poor equipment and vastly out-classes in radar/sonar technology by this point in the war. The fact that captain reported no sonar activity post-attack is telling.
The US had also amassed considerable data on Japanese tactics and capabilities, and based their training and doctrine on this data - the IJN didn’t appear to adapt nearly to that extent.
@@EstorilEm Between poor ASW and even worse damage control procedures, US submarine attacks were the leading cause of IJN tonnage losses in the war.
Run silent, run deep!
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@bigbob1699 LOOSE lips sink ships ...
Very informative...
Nice touch with the Captain's log. I will take one subscription please, and thank you.
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It sunk the 1 carrier and 1 whale.
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It was not the US 7th Fleet, that was "Dugout Doug's" 'Navy. The US carrier fleet was the 5th Fleet when commanded by Admiral Spruance and the 3rd Fleet under Admiral Halsay. This was done to try to confuse the Japanese. And while I'm here, it probably would have turned out even better for the USN if Halsay had been in command in the Philippine Sea, and Spruance at Leyte Gulf. Spruance was cautious and Halsey a bit of a loose cannon.
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Ive always wondered why Subs of that era didnt use some sort of breather/exhaust buoy while they were at periscope depth to gain the diesel engine power and keep speed?
A few maps with animation would have been helpful.
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Don't forget that America dropped two Atomic bombs on two Japanese cities...which ended the war with Japan. Who remembers the pilot's name that dropped both attomic bombs on Japan? I met him for a job interview in the early 1980's. I wasn't interested in the job but I wanted to meet the man that dropped two atomic bombs on Japan.
Col. Paul Tibbets. USAAF - USAF. B-29 Enola Gay. Named after his mom.