✅ The Secrets of Verizon 4G LTE Home Internet
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- I test it so you don't have to, here's Verizon's 4G LTE Home Internet. I show the gateway settings/features (NAT, firewall, DHCP, wifi, etc), speed test, cell signal, 4k streaming test, hooking up my own router and more. Overall this is a reasonable option for many with few other choices for home internet. The biggest drawback is it is throttled for both download and upload but it does have unlimited data and is no geolocked so you technically can travel with it.
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I've had to use my phone's hotspot to get internet at work recently, and it always works well.
I was sitting talking to my wife one night having one of our frequent discussions about shedding Xfinity, and the monster bill that comes with it.
I wondered aloud why these cellular companies don't build a "hotspot gateway" and sell it as home internet?
3 or 4 days later I saw an ad for this very 5G Home Internet. Blew me away. I ordered it and it is excellent, but very dependent on location, and what kind of signal you can get with your phone.
If you can get a strong 4G (or 5G even better) signal with your phone and decent speeds, it should work the same for the gateway. Great product!
During setup my phone glitched with the permissions, so I lost the 5G compass, and can't get it back as I'm already set up. Kind of a dumb thing. It should be constantly accessible.
So I've been using my 4G phone to find the best spot, and it's limited to 2 particular angled windows that run up two stories. If I get it about 8' in the air on the first floor, or at waist level on the second floor, I get the strongest 4G speeds. Typically around 45 down, 15 up. We do get 5G signal but sporadic. With 5G it goes around 720 down but it's rare.
It's on the first floor at waist level for now, and it streams 4K with very few bumps. In a week, I think I had one 5 minute period of slow service, and one other 10 second buffer during streaming.
Not bad at all.
It fluctuates according to time of day, which of the 3 local towers it's connected to, and which band. I'll often get ~225 down, 30 up after midnight.
For the price and relative low effort to install and use, it's excellent.
The router component is quite powerful too. Covers the entire house with a strong signal.
Goodbye Xfinity and the $298 monstrosity that _was_ my monthly bill.
Very nice presentation! Thank you
You're welcome
I've been using the T-mobile 5G Ark box for a few months and it works away from home. I just picked up the Verizon 4G device today. Activated it at home and I am taking it to work tomorrow to see if it's geofenced. I have read different opinions on whether it's geofenced at this time. I did notice that it's capable of much higher speeds but seems to throttle back to 50mb/s down, just like in this video when you're testing it. I assume that is to help with traffic load on the cell towers. Thanks for your awesome videos!
From what I have seen they are not geofenced. Let us know.
@@NaterTater Working great here at work. Still settling around 50-52 down and 6 up after an initial burst to over 100 down.
@@NaterTater I just activated the service this last week. I specifically asked the sales rep if they are geofenced or can they travel with you. They verified to me that it will work anywhere there is verizon 5G service.
@@lanec77 I've traveled with all my verizon home internet gateways but their terms of service say you must notify them and be approved to move it. I assume no one does that.
Yep them speeds are what I get at a mile at 77 signal strength lol. It's amazing how well it works but I don't recommend getting the service if you're more than a mile especially if you live in a city where it has a bunch of tall buildings tall trees and between you because your signal strength is probably going to suck.
Verizon doesnt offer 4G LTE or 5G home internet here in my area only T Mobile offers home internet 4G LTE and 5G and i live in rural New Mexico
Bro I feel ya pain on internet speed availability. I just moved AWAY from an area that offered only 12mbps download dsl as the fastest option for me. I’m now in a area that offers cable internet that has increased my quality of life tremendously! I want to never go back to slow speeds. It’s miserable
Yes, broadband is basically required nowadays
Verizon LTE is awesome most people do not need 100+mbs if you need that ok but to most its more than good enough my family is very happy to have this, and price is fair as well Great info in the video
It’s not good for gameing
But I do lol. I feel if this device was brought home for a family of four definitely not working for streaming. I do a lot of 4K content and doing 1080p Netflix and whatnot yeah too blurry once you get used to 4K content like 4K games it's hard to watch content or play games at 1080p because of the blindness I do hope they do change this because at the end of the day I do about three terabytes of Xbox game Pass a month I just play one game in the downloaded another one while I'm playing the first one and that uses way more data than me streaming 25 MB of a 4K video a few hours a day. Heck I have done over 600 GB in a day over 24 hours just to see how well was in that first month at the service would hold up and if it would slow down after a stupid amount of data use
You need at least 300 Mbps to watch 4K content without buffer on a smart TV.
You don't need 300 or 100 Mbps for 4K streaming. As low as 15mbps will suffice but most recommend 35mbps or better to be safe. help.netflix.com/en/node/306
Nate, will this Verizon 4G unit play friendly with an external WIFI router like say a Netgear unit? And will it solve the 10 device limit issue I am having? I am getting tired of turning devices off to get internet.
yes hooking up a router would work fine and make the verizon unit only see 1 device. Something like this Asus router would work well (I have one): amzn.to/33q7zLm
@nator tator how do you use the router? As a repeater or access point or......?
@@lattedough I use the router as the main access point, and have three repeaters or "extenders". Verizon only allows a few devices when using it's built in wifi/router, I think ten devices? It is not much, and there are only two of us in the house. It is amazing how many wifi devices we own. The aftermarket router eliminates that issue. I'm using the TP-Link Archer AX55 Wi-Fi 6 and their TP-Link AX1500 WiFi Extender. No issues with this gear, Asus and NetGear did not play well, along with a mesh setup from Dynalink. I have owned all of them trying to find a setup that worked. TP-Link won this battle in my particular location.
So, in the setup instructions it is advised to set the gateway up near/next to? a window on an elevated surface. It doesn't appear that you've done that. Also with a static gateway, what are your signals like in different areas of your home ( coverage area)?
Correct, place the gateway where YOU get the best signal. It's not always by a window but typically higher from ground is better. I use a wifi mesh system to get wifi around my property..
I can not see where to get both the 2.4 and 5.0ghz to appear in the choices of internet connections.
I turned off Band Steering. That did not do anything.
It's interesting that the upload speed is below 10mbps. I live in a rural area myself and I use 4G LTE on my cell phone with 5 bars, but yet the 4G LTE Verizon Home Internet isn't available in my area when I try to order it, it tells me it's not available at my current address which I found odd considering I have great cell service and hotspot service through my phone which is also Verizon service. AT&T, T-Mobile also is not available in my area for home internet, although my neighbor has AT&T 5G on his cell phone, and yet AT&T says he's not able to get 5G internet at his home either. It just seems a bit odd that neither myself nor my neighbor is able to access home internet through Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile. But cell service through the phone is excellent. Btw great video, thank you for sharing that information. It's good to know you are not able to monitor the signal strength or ability to adjust the towers such as B2, B12, B66, etc. I do have a MOFI SIM4 4500 4G LTE router as well and it allows for those adjustments.
verizon is being very selective where they roll it out
@@NaterTater I reckon so is AT&T, T-Mobile as well. Wasn't there something passed recently to get internet access to all places? I thought I remember reading an article where federal grants were given to these carriers to expand their services to rural areas by 2022.
I have the same issue, we have verizon towers, but says only satellite is available in my area, and I work from home. Satellite doesn't work with VPN networks at all, the jetpack doesn't work with my work system but I get great internet through the hotspot device off the verizon towers, and I got the Netgear device compatible with the network, put the card in but it doesn't transfer over. I went to the verizon store, the manager seen my connection from my property area compliments of screenshots, he created a dummy address that does accept internet, having the equipment sent to my address, he said to plug in, and should connect for the 4G. He said it doesn't make sense as to why it doesn't service home Wi-Fi with LTE even though our towers are Verizon.
@@xxxlilpixiesxx Thanks for the info, I'll have to see if my local Verizon store will do the same for me.
I would recommend contacting the Verizon store that's the closest to you and asking if the services available at your home address. On the coverage map it says that it's not even available but yet when I called the lady told me that it was and then I will rest up there not thinking I was going to get it and then they double-checked it and said I could still get it then I showed them on my phone let the coverage map was saying that it wasn't available but yet they still showed me the service and when I brought it home it was automatically activated already right out of the box. So my main question is is it actually available or are they basically doing what T-Mobile does where in my case they don't even have a tower near me and the closest one they do is like 20 30 miles away so no service available at all at my home address through T-Mobile and yet the T-Mobile stores still sell the service. I do think that something odds going on and I think both of these companies are kind of just selling the devices cuz when you call online they won't sell it to you but in store in many places through both these companies they are willing to sell it to you well basically you're getting it for free but you still pay for the service
I wonder if this box is limited on the network by TTL/HL and if a VPN would fix this issue. Like Cloudflare WARP which uses wireguard.
Yeah I'm not sure how they limit it.
I'm also in Michigan. So 5G is not an option where you live? We are moving and they say 5G is not available at our location. So you are moving your Box from place to place? Its not physically located at the address where you say it is?
So it's best to get a hotspot box or a router with a lte compatibility
is there a way to optimize this device for gaming? I changed the DNS to google or cloudfare and that seemed to help, also 5Ghz band is better.
Did you ever find out the best settings to use?
Your the only one who shows the unit and lot of interesting info. Still dont know if data is unlimited for the price.
Yes all verizon home internet plans are 100% unlimited data with no speed reduction.
Verizon has always been greedy on purchasing backhaul bandwidth. So that causes them to throttle the crap out of almost everyone. My buddy works for a fiber ISP that wholesales backhaul service to Verizon towers around here. He said they only have 100 Mbps backhauls for the towers here. He said they have 1 Gbps or more fiber availability at the towers.
Do you know the name of the company I’d like to take a look at their stock
@@brad6200 lumen technology. But Apollo global is fixing to purchase them. However iris networks has been adding backbone fiber around here. I predict the cellphone companies switching to Iris networks as soon as possible.
This makes sense because 100Mbps backhauls are extremely cheap. I've dealt with enterprise connections myself and I do know that a dedicated 100mbps fiber optic cable doesn't cost anything really. so it makes sense that they choose this way, Cheap to operate and cheap to provide. Which is why when they roll out their 5G nodes they push a 10Gbit line onto it.
Been patently waiting FOREVER to get to my area. Signed up to get alerted even. Other day I randomly checked & my area is covered now for this device. Nothing but good speeds & connection on the phone. Within a couple days with delivery, I might be astonished or disappointed. Hoping to cut scrotum....I mean spectrum internet, at a 3rd of the cost.
Let us know!
Nater quick question. I have a mofi 5500 router. I have changed the imei number to match my Verizon router. I install show great signal but no internet access. Any recommendations?
Not sure. May help to have verizon reprovision/reset your connection
Hello, The Verizon Home Internet over 4G LTE has a max speed of 50/6. Now I live a mile from the site and I have managed to get my cell signal down to a whopping 77/79 decibels and it's not even in a window but close. Make sure to get yourself your own Wi-Fi 6 and turn the Verizon one off as it's vary limited range. I went to the opposite side of my home which is about oh I don't know 70 ft and I had 2 out of 4 bars on the 5G Band and with mine I had 3 bars at that same distance and got 52/6.06 lol. The Service work's great at 1 mile but most important thing to remember is a good solid signal. I have had mine way up to 95 decibels and even no I got the same speed I get dropped out of online games. Now I have a good connection that's strong it doesn't do it anymore. Verizon only guarantees outside signal and recommends a cell signal strength of 73 which I do get if I step out my front door but indoors it's around 95 on my phone. I do wish Verizon would offer them free devices that boost the outside signal and bring them indoors. If you remember years ago when Sprint had something called the Sprint magic box I basically already had great service for Sprint but told them that I had spotty service even though I had four bars out of the five they sent me this massive Sprint magic box that brought me from like band 26 the band 41 and having over 200 MB without it I was only getting around 80 MB so it shows me that these devices really didn't work but ever since 5G came out they discontinued them.
I currently feed my Frontier Router into a Netgear switch which distributes signal around the house using cable. Will I be able to plug my Netgear switch into the Verizon Gateway using ethernet conncection with no difficulty????
Yes
I just ordered one after going through about 5 T-Mobile gateways . I did buy the outside antennas and the fl connectors for the Tmobile but it still was really bad . Was usable until the peak hours and then it was horrible with really high ping and speeds going to zero on both upload and download . I knew the Verizon would work better because my straighttalk phone utilizes verizon towers and have awesome speeds on the phone. I ended up getting the 5 g cube that looks exactly like the one you are reviewing in this video . I get 100 uploads and about 25 downloads with a 15 ms ping . I couldn't be happier . I guess it just matters where you are to which service will work better . I appreciate your videos - especially the ones that show how to take the gateways apart . i would get impatient and tear them up if I tried to figure it out myself . Ha Ha !!
The verizon does seems to have a bunch more options - like a real router
Verizon's 4G LTE home internet is amazing I got my signal strength that you can see within the device when you log it to it all the way down to 77 and 79 decibels is where it fluctuates and that's not one mile away from the cell phone tower my phone on the other hand gets like 92 to 95 when I walk around my house whatever that one spot is it's like that sweet spot because that's an amazing signal I've had the signal for about 24 hours and it's still sitting around that area hasn't it over 80 yet lol. When I originally put it in the window which is like a three window you think it would be amazing service but I only had it down to 81 and I was trying to see how well or how low I could get it and then I had like 77 as my lowest and then like 80 is my highest so. It seems like if you can get it to 80 decibels or under that and have it stay pretty consistent it works great for online gaming unfortunately there is a 10 MB download restriction on streaming so no 4K or anything like that at least not right now
I just did the same. Sad I paid for all that hardware for TM's gateway. I just got the Verizon a few days ago. Has yours stayed consistent since after the 30 day period? After having my connection go to crap after the 30 days with tmobile, I'm getting all kinds of anxiety Verizon will do the same.
@@MichelleDijares Verizon has been awesome !!!
@@creed5248 thank you!
With the whole loaded ping the reason its that much better on verizon is because they are capping the speeds. So there is always that extra bandwidth leftover to provide a unloaded ping with. With Tmobile if your hitting the max of the bandwidth leftover on the tower the ping is going to go up. This is true for any type of connection even cable when you saturate your download or upload your ping will increase. So if you know you get a steady 150 from tmobile if you capped it at say 140 then you will end up with a greatly reduced ping.
This is why tricks like reducing the tcp/ip transmit mount will result in a lower ping because that ping outgoing and incoming requests makes it through faster.
Yeah I noticed the 90 Mbps then quickly fell back to 50 Mbps
Thomas, after some testing I was able to improve loaded ping due to bufferbloat ua-cam.com/video/RAb1AWVFu3A/v-deo.html
For comparison. My 4g one is like an F16 and buddy of mine who has a 5g one in Atlanta is like the starship enterprise in speed. If ya get my meaning
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Is this entirely mobile? Can it be used for Vanlife for instance or a service backup with a customer loses internet (If Verizon LTE in area?) or is it address/loc dependent?
Yes to all.
so if its not geolocked, you're saying I can technically travel with it, so does that mean I can take it to a different state? or just a different town? or both? Just curious if it will work at my vacation home.
Hi Jackie, yes it should work anywhere there is a verizon signal. Tmobile has a similar offering and they actually just recently announced you can officially go mobile with it. Previously they said you couldn't just like Verizon still says.
I just got the 4G LTE at the house and not bad, really a lot more stable than T-Mobile 5 g , I'm testing both.
How does a person know when they get 5G in your area with Verizon, being on the 4gLTE home internet? Thanks for the video
You can tell by checking the verizon coverage map.
@@NaterTater Not available yet!
Thanks for the reply.
Thank you. Will it slow down during busy times?
Potentially but I dont think it will be as often/likely as the T-mobile home internet. That is likely one of the reasons they throttle the verizon 4G one from the get go.
Yes, it will slow down ALOT
have you had trouble with android streaming apps? I have 3rd party apps that dont work on when connected to the gateway.
I havent but what apps are you talking about? I can maybe test them on mine.
@@NaterTater I use iptv apps one of them is called Ola Tv. they stay on the loading screen. others have had this problem on the Verizon forums.
Thanks for all the info. Would like to dump Comcast, but only the LTE service is available in my area, so I'm thinking it through.
Also, like your desk. Wondering if you recall the make & model? Thanks.
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I have the T-mobile and only have two bars, but it get in the 400 downloads and 20 upload which is I think pretty good for two bars. It done not make a difference where I put it in my house. It beats the heck out of AT&T DSL.
Bars (esp the ones on top of the unit) don't really mean that much. You must be on band n41 for those speeds. Nothing wrong with that, i'd be happy with those speeds too! And the price!
@@NaterTater Yes I am on n41.
What’s the download speed when you download pc files or video games on WiFi ?
For the 4G LTE plan its 50Mbps. For the 5G Home plan its 300Mbps (with C-Band or somewhere between 50-300 with 4G LTE or nationwide 5G).
I have 5 kids all with a device , 2 tvs and a couple echos. If we were watching on Roku, and had 5-6 tablets/computers going on at the same time would it work? I’m sick of Xfinity and only have this or ATT (not fiber) as other options.
Yes it will suffice, even the 4G LTE one but you could likely get the 5G one which has awesome speeds.
@@NaterTater unfortunately, we don’t have the 5G option
its best optimal with up to 10 devices connected to the router. 10 devices running but you can connect more, i dont think you are gonna have more than 10 devices using up internet all at once to begin with. thats a lot. unless you have 10 people in your household all using their devices at once.
If I had Verizon 5G in my area I would give it another try. LTE works great on my phone but terrible on the home internet. And since they told me hours of no internet was "normal" . Now I get 300-800 mbps down with T-Mobile.
Is the T-Mobile service you're using 5g or 4?
@@XbudweezerX 5g
5G ultra capacity (ie n41 band) for those speeds.
I have had AT&T fixed wireless for about four years, it’s decent, but for some reason Verizon isn’t available
Verizon is very limited. You can try other (family/friend) addresses to see if you can get it.
T-Mobile is the best. We are getting 250mgbs solid. I was playing on stadia yesterday my sister was watching the matrix my brother was playing video games too. My mom was on UA-cam tv watching her Korean dramas and we never had a problem. Now I spent a little more of $$$ and did a network using the unified dream machine pro. Using 3 AP and it works really good 1000 times better than the mesh systems.
Glad it's working for you!
I play stadia as well and the reason I haven't switched to TMobile home internet i was because I was worried that TMobile wasn't gonna work with all the gaming we do a home. But after reading your comment I'm going to try it and hopefully say goodbye to Cox.
I only have few concerns. So does it over heat??? And this is a Stadia question. Does it support your 4K gaming ???
@@snakesolied2285 Yes, Depending how many people are connected to the router it going get hot. I disabled wifi and connect to router. I also brought $15 dollar fan that has usb and it helps cool down the T-Mobile modem.
My t-mobile home internet sucks keep dropping to n71 and the speed keep dropping down to 11 mbps
I currently have verizon 5g home internet and I don't see option for port forwarding did I miss something or is it not available and thanks for your videos
You can do DMZ to a personal router and setup port forwarding on your router.
Availability for T-mobile and Verizon Home internet is spotty. T-mobile wasted my time. They told me I could get 4G Home at my location, but it didn't work and I returned the gateway. I have ordered Verizon Home but their Gateway is on backorder. I have to wait 3+ weeks to try it. I can't find a gateway locally either.
I am on a problematic DSL service, anything above 5 or 10mbps would be great.
Man that sucks they cap the home internet speed but I guess it's so the LTE doesn't slow down to much for regular phone users
Yeah, verizon doesnt have enough bandwidth to support uncapped unlimited home internet.
Yeah, load demands are much higher for home use so they want to make sure there's enough throughput to go around while they work on rolling out the rest of their infrastructure.
Can the Verizon router be placed into Bridge Mode to work with a different router?
Not full bridge mode but does have DMZ, UPnP, port forwarding, firewall and other settings to do most of what you would need.
I got the VZW 4G Gateway 2 months ago and was VERY happy with speeds I was getting 25Mbps/3Mbps. I have had (and still have) Mojave Wifi at 2.5 Mbps upload 1Mbps download because it's all I could get here in the hinterlands of the Mojave desert and my Ring cameras all hook up to it. Thanks to your video advising rotation of the VZW Gateway I am now getting 50-55 Mbps downloads! My problem is I cannot seem to connect any of my Ring devices (Ring Chime Pro, cameras etc) to the Gateway so I can dump the Mojave Wifi. VZW support was no help & no tech geeks around here. Do you have any plans to make a video instructing such? Also, will I need to learn to attach a different router to keep number of connected devices down or just connect most of them through the Chime Pro which may act as one device? Sorry for long question. Thanks for great videos.
I would seperate out the 2.4ghz and 5ghz wifi SSID's and then the ring devices should be able to connect to the 2.4ghz.
@@NaterTater Thank very much for your response. Very appreciated. I can hopefully figure out how to do that. Don't want to have to repurchase all the newer Ring devices that are dual band cuz it would cost about 3K!
@@rambalildoc1862 see 6:27 for how to do that
@@NaterTater Thanks again. I remember seeing that the first time and though I’m pretty savvy with tech for my age I was afraid to venture into the unknown. After watching the second time I think I better understand. I sincerely thank you for your time and help.
@@onlywhizdom you're welcome!
The 50 bucks is the real cost of the unit. That 200 + cost is mark IMO.
I have the exact PC case!
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That 50Mbps speed that you get with 4G LTE is due to a physical limitation of the hardware. The closer you are to the tower, the higher your speed will be as the tower and the radio built into the Verizon Gateway doesn't have to work as hard to pass data between each other. But if there's obstacles or walls, the data speed will decrease to ensure that the packets that are sent a received are not corrupted. My advice, locate the tower nearest to you, once found, put the Verizon Gateway near a window of your home that faces the tower. You should see way better results when running speedtest.
I live about 2 miles away from a Verizon cell tower. Do you think that is good enough to buy this 4G LTE?
Yes
What are your best speeds from the T-Mobile Home Internet? Have you ever considered putting it on your tower and running it on PoE ?
I've gotten 140+mbps at home. My 60-100mbps typical in my office is more than sufficient so I dont plan to deal with any external mounting or antennas. View is not worth the climb.
I get 90mbps during the day - 150mbps+ at night usually 200mbps is the highest I'll see it go with Tmobile home 👍
I have the 4g lte home internet with Verizon I’m over 10 miles away from my nearest cel tower my speeds vary from 36mbps download down to 1.1mbps download usually 800-900kbps upload with a steady 65-999ms ping when playing call of duty. I’m not sure which option would be best for my gaming setup to be better 80ms ping is fine by me honestly. But the spikes are horrible when others use the internet. I’m not sure which option would be best I’ve been watching your channel for a couple months and appreciate your content. What would you suggest if I’m brokeish and can only afford so much for a booster or external antenna?
I'd contact Alfredo at chestertechrepairs.com and explain your situation to get a lower end cellular router for less than a 4x4 MIMO antenna. Mention code NaterTater upfront for a nice discount. Then just swap the sim from the cube to the gateway and change APN. ua-cam.com/video/mj0b4FnJen8/v-deo.html
@@NaterTater so doing that would make my speeds better rather than getting a 150$ signal booster from Amazon? I heard they work for Verizon pretty good
Yes likely. See this video on boosters, they can help but they have lots of downsides ua-cam.com/video/bboYE4qcfDM/v-deo.html the most important thing is placement of the gateway.
@@NaterTater I found a 2x2 white cellular antenna I’m thinking about that should I try that first?
@Broken Silence which cube do you have? One has a physical sim but no way to hook up antennas(ASK non-FA suffix), other has eSIM but can hook up antenna (ARC) ua-cam.com/video/SWBR1Nt8kmU/v-deo.html
Does the 5G version of the square default back to 4G? Also how do I finesse an address to get the 5G Square box?
It does. Pick a major city, go to google maps, find a house address (note it needs to be a valid address, not a "2304 to 2310 xxx rd"), type into Verizon. LA, Atlanta, ann arbor, etc
As far as I know, nowadays they only ship the ASK NCQ1338 gateway whether you get LTE or 5g service. That way if 5g rolls out in your neighborhood you won't need a new gateway.
@@Guy_de_Loimbard true but there's also a 2nd cube ua-cam.com/video/ej4vbKUMw7k/v-deo.html
So the new gateway can handle some sort of 5G? I talked to sales they quoted me $170 to payoff my current gateway and be able to upgrade. Though they say the new gateway will not do 5G.
Are you calling this cube in this video the new gateway? With the 4G LTE plan this cube does not use 5G bands.
@@NaterTater yes, i have the old (book looking one), it never gives me anything close to 50Mbps. I get 25Mbps at best.
@@kahrlozt depending on your location, youll only get up to 25-50mbps. 50 being max and 25 being its lowest.
@@Destroymaster100 I have finally gotten spectrum in my address. I still have their service but currently in vacacional mode. Might cancel it soon.
I hope they slowly change the throttle to around 100mb
That would be nice.
Do they cap the speed after the first month of use ? I just got this unit and I can connect 28 devices and I'm gettin around 180 download and 22 upload ,.
No, always capped if on the 4G LTE plan. 5G Home Plan is capped to 300/20Mbps.
@@NaterTaterI just got the 5G WU home internet, 350mbs. About 12ms latency. It’s great! For 25.00 a month!
@@NaterTater Spectrum was worthless! 80 dollars a month for 200mbs. And always had some bs outage.
50 mbps is top limit, 0 mbps is low limit. 0 mbps even for hours is "normal" per Verizon even if your phone says 70-90 mbps. That's why I went to T-Mobile home internet.
Ive had it for 2 years and never had 0mbps, ever. I also get from 45-68mbps down and 6-8mbps up at 40-70ms
You said to use any external router with the Verizon 4g home internet to enter the routers up address in the dmz settings, but why wouldn't ip pass thru be the better option? With ip pass thru the Verizon box acts pretty much just like a modem only, doesn't it? Then it doesn't assign ip addresses or anything else. It just provides the internet and the 3rd party router handles everything.. so my question is, isn't ip pass thru the best way to use a 3rd party router?
At the time the Verizon firmware did not have IP Passthrough feature, they since added it (and removed it briefly due to bugs) and it does work as you mention. For some, that is the best way to use it. My only annoyance with that is it makes it slightly harder to get back into the gateway to adjust the settings since you have to go 1 WAN IP address up from your router's WAN IP to access the webui.
@@NaterTater I hate how you use the feature you also loose access to every setting pretty much.. can't even check the signal strength even using developer tools in chrome or any other browser..
anyway to get this running better for xbox nater? i am dropping from every halo game...sucks! my latency is around 70ish
Are you getting the full 50/6mbps when you do a speedtest.net test?
@@NaterTater It’s very good in those regards yes..latency not great ever, even wired with everything else powered off...I drop almost everytime on Xbox one
How do you get this router to work with devices? it won’t connect to my sonos speaker or printer
Separate the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz wifi. Settings shown in this video.
Will this work if I have verizon cell service? The reason I ask is my rural address isn't searchable on the verizon website.
Yes
@@NaterTater thank you sir. Appreciate it.
I have this. Worked great for about 3 months. 2 days ago it quit connecting. It says it's connected but no internet. I have been on the phone with Verizon for 2 days. No help. Now they have supposedly sent to higher tech support. We've done everything but nothing worked and they aren't wanting to replace it. This sucks
I just got Verizon LTE Home Internet. I disabled the WIFI on the modem and connected my mesh router. My computer that is hard wired is getting an average 100 Mbps download and 174 Mbps upload. I tried T-Mobile Home Internet previously and would only get 5-10 Mbps, couldn't send that modem back to T-Mobile fast enough.
Sweet! Yes speeds vary greatly at a location based on cell signal available.
How do you get 100 mbps download if the LTE home internet peak 50 mbps
Have you tried to change the APN to see if it gets faster?
I have not. I was under the impression it would only work with default one. Do you know of another on that would work?
Yup it throttles me at 50 as well im happy with that considering i have no other option other than hotspots where i live lol…how do you get into the wifi settings like u did?
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@@NaterTater thx bud…finally got it figured out lol
QUESTION: Do you know if this service be used for data mining?
Against ToS
@@NaterTater well doesn't that stink. Thanks so much for the speedy reply!! Enjoyed your video, I wished I'd known beforehand. I have 30 days so there's that!
Was there an activation fee or was it really plug an enjoy?
No activation fee if ordered online. Might be a $30 fee in person or on the phone.
I game, stream movies, and have my phone on WiFi is this something that would work without interruptions?
yes, but just know that depending on what you are streaming (ie netflix) they may be throttled to ~8mbps
Can you do a console gaming video with this or does anyone know how well it works gaming on consoles
it does work
had it for a week. works great. console and pc gaming. fps shooters. rts games. mmorpg's, played them all, works good. no complaints from me yet.
The past few months Verizon has throttled the fuck outta me with this internet. I used to get atleast a steady 25Mbps at all times. Now I'm lucky to get over 3Mbps... Yet they say it must be something on my end.
Can we shut the wi-fi off and
only use the eathernet cable?
Yes and can do IP Pass-through too: ua-cam.com/video/hM_Q2b2JrYY/v-deo.html
Nate, Verizon held up my delivery to do their fraud check, so 5G unit will be here Monday... No clue if it will work. But, my T-Mobile unit, can you recommend an antenna for my T-Mobile that works? I have one right now, nothing, it was recommended by another T-Mobile user. I see no difference in signal, in fact it is running even slower. I used leads 1 & 2, the ones with the white or light gray shrink tube on them. Im right between Ann Arbor and Plymouth, East side of M-14 near Napier Rd.
You have to confirm what bands you get via the cell metrics on app or webui, verify those band frequencies (google "tmobile band freq") and then pick an antenna that works for those frequencies. In addition to a good antenna you have to have good and as short as possible antenna cables. You might have seen the video where i test many antennas ua-cam.com/video/vbzOMSIcrUg/v-deo.html
@@NaterTater Thank you Nate, appreciate the info, that is what I was looking for. I somehow missed this video, thank you for posting this.
@@NaterTater I think I am just going back to what worked... Netgear router and no antenna... I have been through all of this before, and watching the video you linked below, where you returned all of the antennas, that has always been my experience other than that $1000 antenna I had up in Montana. I'm not spending $1000 to fix what was working ok, not great, but acceptable, and did the job.
@@NaterTater Looks like I bought the wrong antenna... I have one of those flat Netgear antennas here somewhere, that should work, I ordered the correct connectors, they should be here today, will try that and see what happens.
@@NaterTater The Verizon unit arrived, they sent the 4G LTE cube, and it freaking ROCKS! The tower is right behind the house, getting plenty of mbps vs the T-Mobile unit, which took a dump on me last night. No clue what happened, it simply quit working... It gets a single, but speeds are below 8 mbps... I will take it with me in the truck on Thursday when I have some work and see if it is a geographic issue or the unit is toast. The Verizon unit, it is staying. Seeing speeds of up to 80 mbps... On average I am getting mid 40's, which is plenty for what we do here. TV, internet, phone and audio, no gaming.
Have you tried changing the MTU to 1420 to fix the ping on T-Mobile. Most people fix it with that.
I get slightly better ping at 1500 default than 1420. Not sure i believe Peter.
@@NaterTater good to know, my Wi-Fi 6 deco doesn’t let me change it so I have no way to test it. I added two external antennas that only support N41 and now I get 400 down and 67 up, so much better than the 30-60 down and 10 up I was getting on 66 and n71. Thanks for this video, answering questions about Verizon internet. Are you going to try Starlink at any point?
@@joshuadj22 maybe...in 2 yrs. 😆
I tried that too, 1500 seems to be the best setting with my T-Mobile unit too... And Peter's antenna did not work either. I lost a good 10 mbps... Now under 20 mbps on downloads, still 2 bars on signal. Ping is better, uploads are faster, but system is in the danger zone for downloads. Very slow. I need to reconfigure, take the box apart and return to factory. Unless there is an antenna out there that will actually work. I have only found one antenna that ever worked, and it was one of those Wilson models when I lived up in Montana, I wish I still had it.
@@michaelwright1602 I tried turning the side of my gateway the way Peter said and it got worse. I get the best most reliable speed when the t mobile trademark is towards the tower.
I have a Verizon 4G LTE phone. We are not happy with our current internet provider. If I ordered this LTE Internet setup do you think it would work at our place, despite the fact that our address is not listed on the website? We have great 4G LTE service here at home.
Yes
Exactly the same here, I got 2 bars VZ and no internet. I am paying $40 extra for Hotpot and last 2 weeks -full speed then throttle to 3mgs. Very annoying.
I got Verizon 5g Works Great get Around 400 To 500 Speed
Is it good for gaming because I’m getting mine delivered soon and I want to use it for gaming mostly
@@CoizerBeast6697 I use it for gaming work very good
Does anyone know if you can use the gateway router with a signal amplifier like weboost?
You can but it normally doesnt help much since it also amplifies the noise.
@@NaterTater Just looking for options.I live in a basicly a pole barn house and right at the picture window with only my phone (no weboost)I get 30 up to 60 down and like 2 up like 2 bars.Do you think the verizon 4g lte internet would work? I get 3 to 4 bars outside.Be great if they made an antenna for it.
Yes it will work. Verizon does have a professionally installed external antenna option.
Yes that's what I use. It used to work fine but their internet has been junk recently even with the booster
Wow that's like 4x my internet speeds
The problem with Verizon is that you can only go up to 720p unless you pay extra for 1080p. They do not allow anything greater unless you're connected to their 5G Ultra Wideband (mmWave). Be prepared to be throttled BIG TIME as well!
That's not true. I've tested and confirmed 4k streams just fine.
@Nater Tater must be on their unlimited cell plans then because I have their $80 unlimited play plan and the best I get is 720p. There is an option to get 1080p but that cost $10 extra a month
@@Dr_Won_Hung_Lo this isn't a cell phone plan. Its home internet. It is unlimited data but it is throttled.
@@NaterTater Verizon used to limit "home internet" as they do with their cell plans. I used to have Verizon's home internet. This is why I made my statement.
The internet provider cannot limit at what resolution you stream video. The only thing that will hold you back is the speeds. @ 50mb download speeds you can stream up to 4K just fine.
Warning - There is a maximum limit on the number of wireless clients that can use this system. We are maxed at 11 -
I have about 60 devices on thru mine but i use an external router and thus the verizon gateway just sees one device (my router).
How are you getting these gateways???? I had to fudge my address for the 5G one.
I do what I can for relevant content for my subscribers! 😉
@@NaterTater lol. I want the Verizon 5G sad part is I have two UWB towers 3-4 blocks away but can pick up signal. Too many oak trees.
Can you add external antennas to the Verizon gateway?
I know for their 5G service they offer a professional install with external antenna but not sure about the 4G one.
@@NaterTater I followed your T-Mobile gateway video and added my own external antenna ports. Have you opened this one yet to see if it has similar potential?
@@charliegeorge6987 I have not. Yet.
@@charliegeorge6987 ua-cam.com/video/cRbRxXVThMA/v-deo.html
We live out in a rural area and I can't get better then 78 ms with hiccups on this box
I have 750Mbps at $90 a month from my cable company..would this Verizon plan, at $50 a month, be just as good & reliable? Thanks!
No but Verizon's 5G Home plan would likely work for you (also $50). ua-cam.com/video/mjiNSOd7DBc/v-deo.html
Im in Winder GA where are you located?
I'm up near Flint, MI but originally from Rome, GA.
@@NaterTater I'm between Grand Blanc and Holly. I recently got the 4g LTE unit and it's working great for me. They were running a promo so I didn't have to buy the unit and I got a $100 credit.
Help I need to add a switch to this for my office … which one do I get ?? Help!
Many to choose from, here's one amzn.to/3vBDbb1
I got the 4G LTE Verizon Home Internet ( cant get the 5G where i live) and I think its wrong that they throttled the LTE version when the 5G cost the same
Agreed. If you can get them to switch you to a 5G rate plan your 4G LTE will still work and not be throttled!
Anyway to go around the 50mbs ?
Not that i know of with a sim tied to the home internet. You could use a hotspot sim.
Ha those are the same speeds ive been getting with tmobile and im in a 5g uc area
Oh man, must be congested there.
What is the magic of getting one of these from Verizon? I live in an area with a great LTE signal, and Verizon's website still says not available in my area. A work associate has a next-door neighbor who has had this unit for quite some time now. However, when he puts in his address, not available. So, he put in the neighbor's address who has it, and it comes back as not available. How are all these people getting these things?
They limit the availability based on network capacity.
Do these Verizon modems have band locking?
Not user configurable, no.
@@NaterTater oh thats crappy. Any chance verizon lets you use aftermarket modems thought about getting the netgear LM1200. I have an extremely expensive reseller internet that used Verizon towers but i have to bandlock to get the best speeds because the nearest tower is very slow. I just ordered Verizon LTE internet because it finally is available in my area.
Has anyone ever taken their LTE Home Internet router to a dot now I use a 8800L hot spoifferent location? The reason I ask is because I know Verizon says you must use it at the address it is tied to. I can get it at my home address, but I have a cabin in northern MI that gets really good LTE reception, but I am not able to get the LTE Home Internet at that address. So my thought was buy it for my home and then just take it to my cabin and use it there. Right now I use 8800L Hotspot at the cabin and it works great. But it's $80 a month for 100GB, I was told by a Verizon person that they don't advertise it, but it will work at long at you can connect to a 4G LTE tower. I was wondering if anyone use theirs at a location other than the address they purchased it for? Thanks!
Correct, it will work
I’m only getting 3 to 9 mbps please I need help
I’ll stick with T-Mobile 😃
I will take 50 all day long. Ive been living with 3 mbps for $90 a month.
Sounds like a good option!
Will this pickup cband?
Yes and no. The "cube" hardware does but not on the 4G LTE plan. It does on the 5G Home plan. I have the 5g plan now and am releasing a video soon about it. Getting very impressive speeds.
@@NaterTater my aunt lives in a 5G home area and I’m in an lte home area but I get cband on my phone. Do you think it would work if I used it at my place?
@@dmite09 I personally certify it! 🙂
@@NaterTater sweet! Thanks!
Does it work with VPN?
Yes
I just set mine up. I can’t log in and I can’t get into my account because you get 3 attempt a day. Omg I hate technology
Mine work great
wow ur lucky i only get 1mbps download on verizon the cap me there
I wouldn't mind being capped at 50mbps if they'd let me actually use it all. But no, they throttle video streams at 10mbps so you can't take full advantage of 4K.
Some streams are capped at 8Mbps, like Netflix. But UA-cam and others were not. Verizon's newer 5G Home internet does not cap speeds.
@@NaterTater I'm pretty sure UA-cam is too. See if you can stream a 4K 60fps video on UA-cam without buffering.
@@Guy_de_Loimbard i dont have the 4g lte service anymore but I was able to stream two 4k 30fps simultaneously.
@@NaterTater that just makes my point. You can do both at the same time if the throughput requirements for each is individually below the video throttle limit. Try combining that throughput request into a single 60fps video stream however and it'll buffer all day long.
It might not matter much for now since there isn't much content available at 4K 60fps, but it could become an issue if the ubiquity of such programming outpaces Verizon's 5g rollout timeline.
@@Guy_de_Loimbard I'm on their 5G Home with c-band "ultra wideband" signal so I'm good
had horrible internet before and this is 10 times better with upload/dload but can't even play xbox on it! anyone else having this problem? i could play with horrible internet before but can't with this with the latency/ping! crazy
Cellular typically has higher latency then wired ISP. You can try moving the gateway around and test for latency. Test via ethernet and then via wifi to make sure its not a wifi issue.
I can’t watch 4K with UA-cam on mine. I’m getting the throttled 50mb down and 10-12 up. I can stream 4K on other services fine. Also, my gateway looks different than yours. It’s shaped like a book instead of cubed.
Thats the older 4g gateway then.
@@NaterTater Does it have more limitations? Would I be able to do 4K UA-cam with new one? Thanks for the reply.
@@cameron3395 i am able to do 4k on youtube with this one. Tested on my computer and roku tv.
Why is box different than yours, I have thr flat one, I also have lte home internet, is that one a better device ?
The cube is better than the "book". You have the old one because you signed up sometime in the past.
@Nater Tater aww welp that sucks , I'm guessing they won't be willing to upgrade me to the newer one since I belive I paid full for the router
@@glazed_vaseline could sign up for a new one and cancel the old. Gateway is free if you keep the service for 24mo.
What is this gateway?
Askey ncq1338
@@NaterTater thank you
Admin password fails when I put in my gateway password😢
you can try press and hold reset button. will return it to default password
I discovered something interesting about the LTE's 50mbps throttle after some experimentation: it's based on throughput to your device, not to the gateway. So if your tower signal is strong enough to deliver 100mbps to your gateway and you're far enough away from the gateway that your wifi speed is effectively halved, it will allow the full 100mbps throughput to the gateway so it can still deliver 50mbps to your device.
4G LTE is only 50/6 but the business side can get 100 download. Not sure on the upload. As far as residential side it's only 50 on 4G LTE and then there 5G is like 300/10. It's not vary fast in terms of ping times across Verizon's 4G LTE network I mean they're pink times can be reasonable at like 30 milliseconds but then other times it will shoot up to 50 or higher and that's where I have noticed like AT&t's number with shares the same site of the Verizon site but AT&t is being time is constantly 50 ping it's got fast speeds but a terrible resp onse time and everything you do on your phone is extremely slow and takes more pages a few seconds to pop up
@@jasonmarshall4436 It's capped at 50, but the signal near me is substantially quicker than that. I can tell because whenever I conduct a speed test it initially shoots straight up to the 80-90mbps range before gradually being throttled back to 50mbps. But, I'm pretty sure it will push through as much of that speed as is needed to still deliver 50mbps to your device if the speed to your device would otherwise be diminished by distance from the wifi signal.
Sounds like Verizon is Band steering lol
Cellular band steering? What makes you say that?
@@NaterTater cause how they just cap it at 50 so it’s like band steering to me so your basically sharing the network with everyone so there’s enough speed who’s ever streaming right
Or I wonder changing the MTU packets in in the Wan Settings on Verizon to 1428 and T-Mobile to 1420 would it make a difference?
@@nytowl3166 I dont think thats band steering. Its just throttling you on whatever band you are on already. That's why for the first second or so its faster then the network has time to recognize and slow it down to the throttled limit.
@@nytowl3166 i messed with MTU on verizon and default was fastest.
Damn straight talk throttles the hell out of you. No more than 480 on UA-cam
Whoa