The Flash Plummets in Week 2; Spider-Verse Back to #1 - Charts with Dan!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- A superhero film is at the top of the box office...but not the one many had anticipated. I look at The Flash's week 2 collapse, Elemental's hold, an update on the rest of the summer box office, and more!
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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Weekend Top 10
6:39 - Worldwide Top 5
8:03 - Spider-Verse Update
9:03 - The Flash Massive Drop
13:46 - Movie Updates
18:54 - Summer Movies
21:32 - Ad break: Factor
22:58 - Ad break: AG1
24:09 - Weekend Charts
27:20 - Indie Spotlight: The Plaza Theatre
28:39 - 2023 Charts
33:56 - Box Office Flashback
35:44 - Opening This Week & Review Guide - Розваги
When your box office performance is comparable to MORBIUS, you know something went MASSIVELY wrong!
At least morbius cost less than $100M.
Disagree, Morbius was definitely a movie. To me, it’s always morbin’ time.
Lol can see the director now.. well we wanted to compare to morbius on purpose.
@@nms7872 I think a lot of people seem to forget that. There are people who have said, that the Flash made more money and did better than Shazam 2. They don't look at the overall expense how much worse the Flash is in the deeper hole in the ground.
"Barely avoiding a fate worse than death" was a great pun!!
Congrats to Spider-Verse from returning to #1. It truely deserves it
Its not, its worse than the first one, the plot and character are f stupid, they should wipe the white spiderman out of the spiderman completely, since thats what the society is nowadays
@@bigdick6341 Agree, is not a great movie at all.
Besides the studio skirting unions and not paying the animators overtime and general abusive behavior from the 1%
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Oh god...no one complained about pay. And besides, these are all allegations that might turn out to be false
I liked the first one better tbh. No emotional pay off since it's (spoiler) just a setup movie
I'm always amazed how deep you get into these numbers, and tell a story from them. Very underrated channel that needs even more viewers. Thank you for all the long hours.
Cosigned! Dan Murrell is in a league of his own.
yup, dan is the best when it comes to movie numbers. i trust his reviews too.
I never expected a new Transformers movie to do better than The Flash…
Yeah. Crazy. To be fair, neither movie is doing particularly well. But compared to Flash, Transformers looks like an Avatar level hit
I never expected a Black Adam movie to do better than The Flash 😳
@@richmlvcable I never expected Shazam to do better than a flash movie
I guess people overall are done with DC and well aware of the reboot coming in 2 years
Transformers always has great CGI, so if that's all that you're looking for, you at least always get what you're looking for. The Flash's CGI was pretty awful in some parts. This is not what I expect from superhero movies. I expect at least decent CGI nearly throughout. When a friend asked for my thoughts on Flash, the bad CGI was one of the first things that I brought up.
It also doesn't help that, thanks to Michael Bay, Transformers movies usually have low expectations quality-wise (aside from effects), and this one appears to at least be among the better received ones. Meanwhile, for months, Warner Bros., with help from celebrities like Tom Cruise and Stephen, hyped Flash up as one of the greatest comic book movies ever made. Combined with the B Cinemascore, this almost certainly doomed it to at least disappoint audiences.
Dan, once again you've found a new way to cut through Internet movie discourse to get to the real heart of the matter. You're consistently one of the most reliable sources of movie news out there. Keep up the good work!
I feel like Mission Impossible is gonna make a strong statement. It's Tom Cruise, it's Tom Cruise's main franchise, Top Gun Maverick made an insane impression. I think it's gonna blow up, because they've been teasing this movie for over a year now with all the crazy new stunts clips and stuffs, and the MI franchise has been better one after the other.
I think MI and surprisingly Barbie will do really well.
The marketing has been stellar for that one too.
M:I movie franchise has been somewhat weak States side. Has any of these crossed the $1B mark?! North American box office has been extremely weird lately. One can’t predict what will be a hit or flop.
@@kriswillman2779I feel like Barbie can go in either direction.
Yeah, I feel like people wants to see movies that looks good and is a spectacle. People are turning away from sloppy CG. Cruise always delievers and he can ride the Top Gun: Maverick wave.
@@josephjasem7926they have not crossed $1 billion worldwide. But for Tom Cruise only Maverick did that. Plus it doesn't need to earn a billion to be successful.
I really wish Soul, Luca and Turning Red had been released in theaters. It almost feels like an incomplete franchise tracking picture without them. But unfortunately we'll never know how well they would have done because of Disney+'s misguided business practices.
Yea the whole Pixar thing is totally not clear because of those movies. People making straight line comparisons on these films are not being honest.
Do we blame the former Bob?
There were no theaters to release them into. COVID shut down Onward, and the fear of COVID lingered into the release dates of Soul and Luca.
Turning Red should have been the one to be released in theaters post-COVID as it was an extremely strong movie, but Disney seemed to think that the Disney+ service would benefit more...and they were wrong to do that.
A better strategy, imo, would have been to just cancel the original 2020/2021 release dates of those films until after COVID was conquered, keep them in the can with no dump onto Disney+ (it's not like there wasn't a zillion other things on there to watch)
Then do a big, "Pixar is BACK!", marketing push to bring them to theaters.
That would have helped keep the "Pixar mystique" in-place, as Pixar movies used to be must-see movies that were veritable events that people rushed to be a part of.
The Pixar magic is gone, for sure. They will need to figure out a way to get their Rolls Royce-level brand into people's minds once again.
I still think 'Soul' should get a theatrical release. should be plenty of slots available what with 'The Flash' and 'Elements' under performance. And if the 'Dial of Destiny' flops .....
I dont think the lockdowns are completely to blame, we have to acknowledge the fact that the quality of Pixar storytelling dropped dramatically since Inside Out.
I was a Disney and Pixar fanatic my whole life but I cant with good conscience, claim that those films were worth cinema ticket prices.
If the quality rises again, a large chunk of the audience will be back in the cinema.
I totally agree that it's really unfair how hard it is to see smaller movies if you don't live in one of the larger markets in the US, I'd like to point out that it's even harder if you live anywhere outside of the US
I unexpectedly got to see Flash opening weekend. I liked the movie, but it was shown in a HUGE room and there were 5 people there, including me and my brother in law. We were pretty shocked at how empty the theatre was, but that makes the box office numbers unsurprising for me.
This is the last week for Spider-Verse to be on PLF screens. My wife and I have seen it three times (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Cinema, and Imax Laser) and we'll likely see it one more time before it drops to home video. Such a good movie. Deserves Oscar nods for way more than just Animated Feature.
Based on their holds and current trajectories Elemental will most likely outgross The Flash ~$125-130+ million vs $110-115 million respectively. As Dan would say, who had that on their 2023 Bingo card?
For additional context, The Flash has fallen behind Green Lantern’s box office at this same point, and that capped off at $116 million. Lightyear made an additional $29 million after its second weekend, but that was after a terrible second week drop and having to deal with Minions 2 in its third week. Elemental had a far better hold; the best Pixar week two hold since Up. Plus, not only is Indiana Jones not direct competition but Ruby Gillman is no Minions. Its budget will still hold it back, but it’ll at least be the highest grossing original animated film since 2017’s Coco.
Let's see if Illumination can still make orignal Animated movies for a wide audience with Migration this Christmas. This would be their first truly orignal(so no sequel or based on other IP) movie since Sing 1 in 2016. Very interested to see how that performs (it of course has christmas legs to help it, but still)
(Or maybe Wish is another Frozen or Encanto but at the Boxoffice)
Kids movies do often have good legs. I was wondering if Elemental should have been released later in the summer since it was released too close to Spider-Man spiderverse2
@@tiffanysandmeier4753 It probably should have. Mid-June is the traditional Pixar space, but times have changed. Early July probably would have been a better place as Despicable Me and Secret Life of Pets showed animated films can thrive there.
Flash was doomed to flop the moment WB refused to fire Miller after his crimes. And that is the cause because Guardians 3 and Spider-Verse 2 have proven it's not fatigue from superhero movies. Though Gunn announcing that he was killing off the current DCEU before its last movies were released didn't help either as it signaled to the potential audience that there was no point in seeing in any DC films until the franchise restarts.
In short, I'm pretty sure everyone saw literally any other 2023 movie outperforming Flash.
So Spider-Man has long legs? Does that make him a Daddy Long Legs Spider-Man?😂
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Dan, could you look at the overall profitability of studios. For example does the success of Super Mario offset the loss of Fast X, or is Sony doing well because it hasn't had a big bomb?
Hollywood account is notoriously murky. And I don't think a lot of the information is public - how much the Mario movie went to Nintendo versus Universal/Illumination, cross branding deals, toys, etc.
Man, this month has been rough for everything but Spider-Verse, and even that is now getting marred in controversy regarding working conditions for the staff now. Yet somehow, I don't see any of the blockbusters coming out next month to be doing bad at all.
It always surprises me that Rotten Tomatoes is such an important metric for some people. I'm not anti-critics or anything, but personally I think that finding and following a critic who somewhat shares your own tastes and reviews without prejudice is way more useful than just going by a consensus. By and large, people have terrible opinions and you owe it to yourself to curate what you allow to influence you.
(I'm talking in terms of going to see a movie based on scores, as a dataset it's more interesting)
Even before Rotten Tomatoes, the ratio of my enjoyment of a movie to the less formalized critical consensus was rather low. There were quite a few movies that had great highbrow reviews that I thought were just okay. I might call it the English Patient Problem.
I tend to treat RT as a "I'll give even stuff I think I'll hate a chance above, say, 80%; and avoid stuff I think I'll like below 30%", eg if everyone hates it or loves it, I'll probably do the same.
That said, I do often agree with the critical consensus, do it probably works better for me.
I've always followed this method. I follow one or two reviewers who share most of my likes and dislikes (keeping in mind that everyone has bias). I read that review. I then randomly find a review that is 180 of my favored reviewers point of view.
Somewhere in the middle of each is where I find the truth.
When it comes to Rotten Tomatoes, I personally find the audience score much more helpful than the critic score.
Spider-verse may have had a reasonable budget but animators were overworked & burned out working on this movie. 100 animators allegedly quit the project because it was so grueling. Some were afraid to quit because they were afraid of losing their work visa. We can talk about massive budgets all we want but people still work on these movies.
Unfortunately this kinda practice has sadly become the norm and it needs to stop. I’m perfectly waiting 3-4 years for another good Spiderverse movie if the people working on it are treated right.
I mean with Pixar other than what John Lassiter did. I don’t think there’s been any stories of abuse or crunch time. And if that large budget for elemental was to make sure everyone working on it were paid properly and treated well, I wouldn’t object to that. I feel though the animators union needs to be more accessible to everyone and VFX artists need one or we’ll certainly see a big strike like with the writers currently.
@@VunderGuy It's not cope. I loved the new Spiderverse movie but there are a lot of rumors and I'm sincerely worried about the third one coming out on time. I've heard everything from it's in post production to most of the animators meant to finish it have quit and it's not even fully developed yet.
Man, that would suck if true.
They really should take all the time they need to get out the 3rd movie, but this gets me worried that the Sony corporate overlords might make some bullshit move after the phenomenal success of Across the Spiderverse :(
I fail to see what this has to do with box office. Maybe find a different video to discuss it?
to what degree are your statement factually correct? am nnotdismissing what you said , ut so many times things get over exaggerated on the internet , and it becomes difficult to know the truth. i.e the crime ezra mi,,er is accused of on the internet is different from what he was accused of in the court, yet people keep going on with the internet narrative rather than what was said in court.
Looks like 'The Flash' couldn't *OUTRUN* the box office drops ⚡🏃
One could say there’s nowhere to run.
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I think you used the WW numbers for elemental rather than its international numbers in your profit calculations. Elemental has made around 55m internationally, not 109m
I knew something looked off about this numbers! It’ll be fixed next week
Every Tuesday i look forward to another Charts with Dan!You remain completely unbiased one way or the other .You don't corporate shill,nor do you use your channel to gaslight fans for "rage clicks"..Straight up facts, figures, and fun!!
They announced the new DCU too early. Should've announced it after Aquaman 2.
They announced it too early for audiences, but they really didn't want to wait to announce it to investors - which was probably the better call (assuming investors are willing to wait out the downtick on the promise of a brighter tomorrow)
Wow. Barry better go back in time to fix this.
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“It’s art! BE SERIOUS.” 😂
Spider-verse: "Alright, let's do this one last time."
Thank you for your advocacy for indie movies! They NEED to be more widely accesible
The moment they said there’s multiple versions of ATSV in theaters I knew it would go back to #1
As someone who went 5 times like some sort of lunatic; I hope they really enjoy those 3 frames of Layla doing finger guns.
Spider-Man has been the No.1 movie for nearly its entire run:
* Transformers won its opening weekend (Spider-Man's 2nd weekend) only because it had a big Friday first-day. Yet, Spider-Man won the second-day Saturday as well the third-day Sunday. Spider-Man went on to be the top movie for every day in Transformers' first week minus that Friday. 6 days out of 7, Spider-Man was the No.1 movie in Transformers' first week.
* The Flash won its opeing weekend (Spider-Man's 3rd weekend) but fell behind on its Wednesday sixth-day. Notably, Spider-Man was only $300K behind Flash on fifth-day Tuesday. Spider-Man stayed above Flash on its seventh-day Thursday, being the No.1 movie for 2 days out of 7 in The Flash's first week.
Thus, in the 3 full weeks of Spider-Man's run, from its opening week, thru Transformers' opening week, thru Flash's opening week: Spider-Man was the No.1 movie for 15 out of 21 days.
PLUS, it remains No.1 thru the Flash's 2nd weekend to today (Tuesday), giving it another 5 days as the No.1 movie.
It would be interesting at the end of the summer to see how much the total box office revenue was from every movie and maybe compare it to previous summers totals. Like an epilogue to this wild summer.
Dan, I'm really happy that you're advocating for independent film in lesser served, non-urban markets. I also believe that there is a curiosity and demand everywhere for thoughtful and often personal storytelling. While I was saddened that you left Southern California for Arkansas, I now see it in very positive light.
“It’s art be serious”killed me😂
Thank you for another week of well researched and presented movie news! I'm always happy to spend part of my day with your videos! Thank you for all the time you put into making them!
Keep up the great content Dan 👏🏾
Thanks for your hard work, Dan!
Had a slight bit of flashback of my own when I saw your 1981 box office history chart. On June 19th 1981, I was sitting in the Hillcrest theater in Lawrence KS watching Raiders of the Lost Ark when a tornado hit the southern edge of town and caused enough damage to our trailer that it had to be totaled....
Just wanted to say as someone who used to work in the industry, I have come to love your weekly shows. They are a highlight. Thanks for providing great information and commentary.
With the Flash being a huge flop, we took it out of our main house this week and put Spider-Man back in. Every film we have in house this week (Little Mermaid, Transformers, Elemental, Spider-Man, and especially Asteroid City) dwarfed Flash in sales. And with Indy coming out this weekend, expect Guardians to drop from a lot of theaters as Disney would rather keep elemental and Indy in theaters, and would very likely not be allowed three films playing at the same time. Very likely to see Spider-Man overtake Guardians this weekend.
I love the new feature, Dan!! Thanks for the great work, as always!!
Watched this 47 seconds after it went live. That is how much I enjoy your coverage. Watch every single video. Big fan.
I don't care what any rage bait misogynistic UA-cam channel says, I'm so excited for Dial of Destiny!!
@@adnanmir2873 I'm not financially invested in the movie.
No idea what you were trying to say in the second half of your reply, but it must be hard being mad all the time.
Thanks Dan. Also enjoy the show. Appreciate the work you and Mara put into it.
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos, but man, this is such a well researched and enjoyable show. Really hope your channel keeps thriving Dan! :)
Great work as always Dan. I love seeing the theatrical profit/loss charts when the movies are done! Thanks
Thank you for finally calling it! 👍🏽
Excellent addition!
This show/channel makes me more excited to be part of the second week box office returns than to see a movie during its first weekend. It just feels more special, now, to help boost the movie after it has already burst out of the gate.
Love the new review guide 👍 It solidified my plans to see Past Lives next time I’m at the theater.
What a wild summer it's been at the box office. So many self-inflicted wounds.
Ayyy it’s cool to see the Plaza Theatre get a shout out. Thanks!! Love that place. I’m going there tonight to watch the Room with Greg sestero in attendance
@dan "rotten tomatos decoded" segment tis an amazing addition to the show. Well done and well presented.
Love the new ratings graph… I would love to see it compared to previous summers to show if the statement the summer of mid is true in comparison!
Enjoy the 4th of July Dan! Thanks for all that you do!
Bravo Dan, love your insight
I think Dan forgot to mention the fact that Quantamania domestically never even passed the unadjusted domestic gross of Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) ($214 million for Quantamania vs. $216 million). Given the $100 million+ opening weekend it had, it should've passed that opening in no time. Love and Thunder, which despite bad reviews and grossing less worldwide compared to Ragnarok, still made slightly more domestically ($343 milllion for L&T, vs $315 for Ragnarok), which I think is a clear indicator for how judgment on the MCU has changed.
I think there was still slight goodwill from audiences after Wakanda Forever (yes it didn't open as high as the first Black Panther, but it would've been hard to match that type of opening again), which was why Quantamania opened to $100 million+, but it seems that after word of mouth came out after the movie's release, interest in both the film and Marvel as a whole took a nosedive. The only reason GOTG 3 is doing well is by virtue of the fact that a lot of people liked it, seeing as how its opening was viewed as a disappointment when compared to its predecessor (it still hasn't passed GOTG 2 as of the time of this writing, and it's highly unlikely it'll actually achieve that feat).
As Dan said last weekend, audiences are getting tired of mediocrity, and I think the failure on Ant-Man 3's part to be the highest grossing Ant-Man film either domestically or worldwide shows as such. Ant-Man was never a character audiences flocked to as they would The Avengers films or the Black Panther films, and so you can't really use any excuses for as to why Ant-Man 3 didn't do as well, other than the movie was simply not very good. By comparison Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) movie made over $600 million worldwide, even if it isn't a personal favorite amongst most MCU fans.
If The Marvels later this year is really good, then I think it has a shot at making money. If it's on par with that last Captain Marvel movie (which to be clear I just thought was mediocre), than I think its performance will be seen as underwhelming.
For me the biggest issue these days is that my theater closed during Covid and never reopened. The closest one is 20 miles away. I want to see all of these movies but knowing they will be on streaming / DVD shortly I can't convince myself to make that drive
Hey the Plaza! Got to meet Greg Sestero at a screening of Disaster Artist a few years ago! Love that you do this stuff for those theaters!
34:10 We talk about stacked weekends now, but this chart shows two weekends in a row where two major films opened the same weekend.
Great analysis Dan. Keep up the great work.
You should put Tomato meter on the x-axis vs average score on the y-axis so that you can show the presence or lack of correlation between the two ways of looking at the rating score.
Around the 31:00 mark here, with Dan talking about how the ticket sales are not the be-all-end-all for movie studios is spot on. I don't know what their calculus is now, but I know 10, 15 years ago before streaming took over the world, there was a studio head (I can't recall who, or which studio) that described movies in theaters as 2-hour trailers to sell the DVDs and BluRays. Box office totals make great headlines - good or bad - but they're only a part of that story. Thankfully we have Dan to take the Paul Harvey role and give us "the rest of the story."
I like the new Rotten Tomatoes decoded section. But if I can make a suggestion, I would merge the two graphs together.
Have the Percentage be on the X-axis and color coded, while the actual ratings are on the Y-axis.
I think that would help to highlight the difference.
100% agree - having an X-Y scatter plot of "freshness" against average rating seems like an obvious way to present the combination of average opinion and variation in opinion (which is really what the freshness rating is good for) - if you have two movies at an average 6.1 rating, with one at 100% fresh and the other at 2%, that means that the former has everyone agree that it's a barely better than average movie, while the latter has most people think it's just worse than average, but the few people who like it absolutely love it. You'd probably not want to bother with the former unless you're desperate for something to watch on the big screen, but the latter might be worth checking out if it looks like it could be interesting.
Was about to say this. Very good idea, but no reason to not use the Y-axis for something when it's there, and two different charts don't really mean anything unless you go back and forth to compare them. Also, instead of the poster pics (that are not always very clear) in the chart, I'd suggest using just plain text.
Great video Dan!
only 140k separating a new comedy and a superhero movie in its SECOND week, woow
I really like the new segment analyzing the Rotten Tomatoes numbers. I hope you keep doing it!
That said I still think the aggregate score that they present front and center on the website is pretty useful if you know what you’re looking at.
That tomato meter chart was cool dan!
Crazy out of all the blockbusters the one with the lowest budget is the best and is making the most money 🙏🏾 Spidey earned it
Crazy how low the budget is when you underpay ur workers
@@rl8259 hey it works lol
@@tylerjones4247 i really hope that was sarcasm, cause not haha. Your talking about human beings, and them putting food on that table for their families.
@@gpcovenant yea I’m being sarcastic lol I’m just saying it works….doesn’t mean it’s right
Gone in a Flash 🥁
Superman II, Cannonball Run and Raiders of the Lost Ark. That sounds like an amazing triple header 😮
20:38 safe picks, smart picks
Would be interesting to also add the audience reactions into the new review section, since it would be interesting to see the difference in reactions between the two, especially when the disparities are quite big like with Transformers.
New milestone for spider man movie franchise last week. Spider man franchise has passed star wars franchise as the 2nd highest grossing movie franchise in the worldwide box office only behind marvel cinematic universe.
And it will stay there, because Star Wars is too afraid to create any story that isn't a continuation of Luke & Darth Vader.
I love how the thumbnail implies that The Flash is using the speed force just to try to improve the box office numbers
RTDecoded is great. More people need to learn how to read the score, and this is a good way to teach everyone how.
Dan, todays chart with Dan is just too good !! Keep it up
Great stuff as always Dan! What about adding the audience scores to another chart in the new RT decoded section? Several movies are very divided between critics and audiences.
I like this idea and second it!
First of all, top notch job as usual Mr. Murrell, thank you for being the harbinger of both good and bad news for franchises. In no other note I was wondering how hard would it be to track the financial picture of a cult classic. Knowing about how much tie ins and dvd/Blu-ray/online rentals bring, would it be possible to find out the full financial picture of a movie like Fight club? I realize it’s probably a gargantuan (I love that word, I can rarely use it in a sentence) endeavor. Anyway, keep up the good work!
Great show as always! I like the tomatometer chart it, the visualization if really nice for comparing different scores. Could you give us labels on the y-axis of the chart as well as the x if you're going to do it again? I wasnt really clear on what the vertical position of the films meant.
Hey Dan love your work! And would also love if you eventually did a similar timeline for the Spawn reboot, lol
Dan I hope you achieve your goal of getting these smaller movies into more markets! It can only be a good thing!
I like your idea for the Rotten Tomatoes charts. But, I think a more interesting visualization of what you're discussing would be a scatterplot of Tomatometer Score vs Average Rating, with a Y=X dividing line to show which movies are doing better on one score versus the other.
Hi Dan, fellow chart nerd here... For your new Tomato Meter charts, may I suggest trying to combine the two charts and plot Tomato Meter vs Average Rating, or add that as a third chart. For the most part, it should be a diagonal line. The offset would make your point that the average ratings are lower than the tomato meter numbers, but also, the movies that are outliers that aren't on that diagonal line, I think, would drive interesting commentary. Love what you do!
OMG PLAZA ATLANTA REPRESENT. Iwanna also shout out the Videodrome movie rental store. I love that place cuz I've been able to find classic cinema and especially now that TCM is on the edge, they are a haven for classic movie lovers like me!
Don't know if it's new, but just noticed the Paddington. I like it.
That sucks about Past Lives not being near you, but it's worth the drive. It's a really well made kick in the feels.
You Hurt My Feelings is also really good.
I like the new chart! Glad to see Spider-Verse back on top. Such a good movie and happy to see people supporting it.
Well...the Plaza theater in Atlanta is no longer the only independent theater in the city, because they have just recently purchased and reopened the historic Tara theater (previously owned by Regal, but closed in 2022), so that has added another 4 screens for what looks so far to be similar programming.
24:34 last full theater since Avengers:End Game. Love to see it!
I would love to see a further discussion video on streaming services in the future. As a Disney fan, and admitting that not everything related to their box office issues is Disney+ (politics, Chapek decision making, poor quality products both on Disney+ and in film), but I think Disney+ is cannibalising the company. The streaming market has a finite number of people going to pay for it and the prices and stuff is getting out of hand when you have to have multiple services to get what you want, it’s almost, if not more expensive than cable. Plus the constantly spending hundreds of millions of dollars on content that isn’t hitting with most audiences that don’t have a “Marvel” or “Star Wars” label slapped on them, and even then the quality hasn’t been great. This isn’t helped when all new releases come straight to Disney+ a month or two later and are included with your subscription. This ultimately has trained audiences to “wait till it’s on Disney+”, thus they aren’t making as much money in the theatrical window. Disney+ is killing the company and they intend to use its data for the parks, which I think is a mistake because while there is some overlap, those are two different audiences.
Plus I think an argument a reason the Flash is bombing could be that same argument with MAX. Yes, way more and pressing issues with that movie, but I think that streaming is killing these companies financially.
Flash is bombing because WB completely shit the bed managing the DCEU. It’s that simple and straightforward. Not streaming, or Covid, or superhero fatigue…. 100% flat out corporate mismanagement.
Arguably, Disney+ MCU did massive damage to the MCU because for some reason everything had a lot of terrible writing decisions.
@@Ruddline Not denying that at all, just speaking as a whole how Disney+ and similar streaming services (MAX, Peacock with Five Nights At Freddy’s, etc.) is killing their own business.
When comparing the cumulative growths you could plot the difference between them, e.g. spiderman and gotg. It helps with seeing trends.
Dan, I'd love to see you do a plot with Review Score on the X Axis, and Box Office Total on the Y Axis, for what's been seen so far. Perhaps there is a correlation? You're the man to do it!
Yes Dan. Please keep the RT discussion segment. Keep up the good work.
Love that new RT segment
John Wick franchise just keeps getting better and I'm a happy fan.
If it's any consolation, even in the artsy land of Portland, Past Lives was at only 3 theaters and only one of them was a non artsy chain theater. I expected it would open a few more places here. Hopefully it expands to the 800 ish range because the movie is utterly brilliant.
Love the new tomato meter section!
could you explain what the y-axis is measuring in the tomatometer vs average charts at the end?
dont forget, the flash was closer to the 4th place than to the 2nd.
Love the Rotten Tomatoes decoded segment, Dan! I think a lot of people aren't even aware of the average score on RT so this is really useful.
Congrats on the wedding planning!
The Plaza Theatre is awesome!
Love the new feature!
Love the new feature 👍🏻👍🏻