The Flash Plummets in Week 2; Spider-Verse Back to #1 - Charts with Dan!

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  • A superhero film is at the top of the box office...but not the one many had anticipated. I look at The Flash's week 2 collapse, Elemental's hold, an update on the rest of the summer box office, and more!
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:01 - Weekend Top 10
    6:39 - Worldwide Top 5
    8:03 - Spider-Verse Update
    9:03 - The Flash Massive Drop
    13:46 - Movie Updates
    18:54 - Summer Movies
    21:32 - Ad break: Factor
    22:58 - Ad break: AG1
    24:09 - Weekend Charts
    27:20 - Indie Spotlight: The Plaza Theatre
    28:39 - 2023 Charts
    33:56 - Box Office Flashback
    35:44 - Opening This Week & Review Guide
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  • @Calypsotheseagoddesss
    @Calypsotheseagoddesss Рік тому +135

    When your box office performance is comparable to MORBIUS, you know something went MASSIVELY wrong!

    • @nms7872
      @nms7872 Рік тому +21

      At least morbius cost less than $100M.

    • @thecataclysman
      @thecataclysman Рік тому +22

      Disagree, Morbius was definitely a movie. To me, it’s always morbin’ time.

    • @mopnem
      @mopnem Рік тому +5

      Lol can see the director now.. well we wanted to compare to morbius on purpose.

    • @alanguages
      @alanguages Рік тому +3

      @@nms7872 I think a lot of people seem to forget that. There are people who have said, that the Flash made more money and did better than Shazam 2. They don't look at the overall expense how much worse the Flash is in the deeper hole in the ground.

    • @mathsalot8099
      @mathsalot8099 Рік тому

      "Barely avoiding a fate worse than death" was a great pun!!

  • @AnimatedCriticStudios
    @AnimatedCriticStudios Рік тому +310

    Congrats to Spider-Verse from returning to #1. It truely deserves it

    • @bigdick6341
      @bigdick6341 Рік тому +1

      Its not, its worse than the first one, the plot and character are f stupid, they should wipe the white spiderman out of the spiderman completely, since thats what the society is nowadays

    • @moon_orbit
      @moon_orbit Рік тому +4

      @@bigdick6341 Agree, is not a great movie at all.

    • @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677
      @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Рік тому +15

      Besides the studio skirting unions and not paying the animators overtime and general abusive behavior from the 1%

    • @M_k-zi3tn
      @M_k-zi3tn Рік тому +1

      @@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Oh god...no one complained about pay. And besides, these are all allegations that might turn out to be false

    • @goseeaboutagirl
      @goseeaboutagirl Рік тому +1

      I liked the first one better tbh. No emotional pay off since it's (spoiler) just a setup movie

  • @YakAttack915
    @YakAttack915 Рік тому +129

    I'm always amazed how deep you get into these numbers, and tell a story from them. Very underrated channel that needs even more viewers. Thank you for all the long hours.

    • @DoctorCyan
      @DoctorCyan Рік тому +3

      Cosigned! Dan Murrell is in a league of his own.

    • @ianw0ng
      @ianw0ng Рік тому +3

      yup, dan is the best when it comes to movie numbers. i trust his reviews too.

  • @EleventhCubFan
    @EleventhCubFan Рік тому +297

    I never expected a new Transformers movie to do better than The Flash…

    • @nms7872
      @nms7872 Рік тому +33

      Yeah. Crazy. To be fair, neither movie is doing particularly well. But compared to Flash, Transformers looks like an Avatar level hit

    • @richmlvcable
      @richmlvcable Рік тому +48

      I never expected a Black Adam movie to do better than The Flash 😳

    • @nms7872
      @nms7872 Рік тому +33

      @@richmlvcable I never expected Shazam to do better than a flash movie

    • @griswoldclark6835
      @griswoldclark6835 Рік тому +7

      I guess people overall are done with DC and well aware of the reboot coming in 2 years

    • @Sounder1995
      @Sounder1995 Рік тому +11

      Transformers always has great CGI, so if that's all that you're looking for, you at least always get what you're looking for. The Flash's CGI was pretty awful in some parts. This is not what I expect from superhero movies. I expect at least decent CGI nearly throughout. When a friend asked for my thoughts on Flash, the bad CGI was one of the first things that I brought up.
      It also doesn't help that, thanks to Michael Bay, Transformers movies usually have low expectations quality-wise (aside from effects), and this one appears to at least be among the better received ones. Meanwhile, for months, Warner Bros., with help from celebrities like Tom Cruise and Stephen, hyped Flash up as one of the greatest comic book movies ever made. Combined with the B Cinemascore, this almost certainly doomed it to at least disappoint audiences.

  • @jordaniacobucci7550
    @jordaniacobucci7550 Рік тому +43

    Dan, once again you've found a new way to cut through Internet movie discourse to get to the real heart of the matter. You're consistently one of the most reliable sources of movie news out there. Keep up the good work!

  • @Moreinius
    @Moreinius Рік тому +95

    I feel like Mission Impossible is gonna make a strong statement. It's Tom Cruise, it's Tom Cruise's main franchise, Top Gun Maverick made an insane impression. I think it's gonna blow up, because they've been teasing this movie for over a year now with all the crazy new stunts clips and stuffs, and the MI franchise has been better one after the other.

    • @kriswillman2779
      @kriswillman2779 Рік тому +7

      I think MI and surprisingly Barbie will do really well.
      The marketing has been stellar for that one too.

    • @josephjasem7926
      @josephjasem7926 Рік тому +1

      M:I movie franchise has been somewhat weak States side. Has any of these crossed the $1B mark?! North American box office has been extremely weird lately. One can’t predict what will be a hit or flop.

    • @travisspazz1624
      @travisspazz1624 Рік тому +5

      ​@@kriswillman2779I feel like Barbie can go in either direction.

    • @Maitch3000
      @Maitch3000 Рік тому +4

      Yeah, I feel like people wants to see movies that looks good and is a spectacle. People are turning away from sloppy CG. Cruise always delievers and he can ride the Top Gun: Maverick wave.

    • @moviereedviews
      @moviereedviews Рік тому +6

      ​@@josephjasem7926they have not crossed $1 billion worldwide. But for Tom Cruise only Maverick did that. Plus it doesn't need to earn a billion to be successful.

  • @gangrene_gaming
    @gangrene_gaming Рік тому +91

    I really wish Soul, Luca and Turning Red had been released in theaters. It almost feels like an incomplete franchise tracking picture without them. But unfortunately we'll never know how well they would have done because of Disney+'s misguided business practices.

    • @user-dp6ve5ng8h
      @user-dp6ve5ng8h Рік тому +5

      Yea the whole Pixar thing is totally not clear because of those movies. People making straight line comparisons on these films are not being honest.

    • @tiffanysandmeier4753
      @tiffanysandmeier4753 Рік тому +1

      Do we blame the former Bob?

    • @AfroDeesiac
      @AfroDeesiac Рік тому +8

      There were no theaters to release them into. COVID shut down Onward, and the fear of COVID lingered into the release dates of Soul and Luca.
      Turning Red should have been the one to be released in theaters post-COVID as it was an extremely strong movie, but Disney seemed to think that the Disney+ service would benefit more...and they were wrong to do that.
      A better strategy, imo, would have been to just cancel the original 2020/2021 release dates of those films until after COVID was conquered, keep them in the can with no dump onto Disney+ (it's not like there wasn't a zillion other things on there to watch)
      Then do a big, "Pixar is BACK!", marketing push to bring them to theaters.
      That would have helped keep the "Pixar mystique" in-place, as Pixar movies used to be must-see movies that were veritable events that people rushed to be a part of.
      The Pixar magic is gone, for sure. They will need to figure out a way to get their Rolls Royce-level brand into people's minds once again.

    • @cr-pol
      @cr-pol Рік тому +2

      I still think 'Soul' should get a theatrical release. should be plenty of slots available what with 'The Flash' and 'Elements' under performance. And if the 'Dial of Destiny' flops .....

    • @stackels97
      @stackels97 Рік тому +3

      I dont think the lockdowns are completely to blame, we have to acknowledge the fact that the quality of Pixar storytelling dropped dramatically since Inside Out.
      I was a Disney and Pixar fanatic my whole life but I cant with good conscience, claim that those films were worth cinema ticket prices.
      If the quality rises again, a large chunk of the audience will be back in the cinema.

  • @hugopinai2005
    @hugopinai2005 Рік тому +43

    I totally agree that it's really unfair how hard it is to see smaller movies if you don't live in one of the larger markets in the US, I'd like to point out that it's even harder if you live anywhere outside of the US

  • @Onlinerando
    @Onlinerando Рік тому +16

    I unexpectedly got to see Flash opening weekend. I liked the movie, but it was shown in a HUGE room and there were 5 people there, including me and my brother in law. We were pretty shocked at how empty the theatre was, but that makes the box office numbers unsurprising for me.

  • @garthTurningCranks
    @garthTurningCranks Рік тому +12

    This is the last week for Spider-Verse to be on PLF screens. My wife and I have seen it three times (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Cinema, and Imax Laser) and we'll likely see it one more time before it drops to home video. Such a good movie. Deserves Oscar nods for way more than just Animated Feature.

  • @robpagenkopf5829
    @robpagenkopf5829 Рік тому +65

    Based on their holds and current trajectories Elemental will most likely outgross The Flash ~$125-130+ million vs $110-115 million respectively. As Dan would say, who had that on their 2023 Bingo card?
    For additional context, The Flash has fallen behind Green Lantern’s box office at this same point, and that capped off at $116 million. Lightyear made an additional $29 million after its second weekend, but that was after a terrible second week drop and having to deal with Minions 2 in its third week. Elemental had a far better hold; the best Pixar week two hold since Up. Plus, not only is Indiana Jones not direct competition but Ruby Gillman is no Minions. Its budget will still hold it back, but it’ll at least be the highest grossing original animated film since 2017’s Coco.

    • @youngstar312
      @youngstar312 Рік тому +6

      Let's see if Illumination can still make orignal Animated movies for a wide audience with Migration this Christmas. This would be their first truly orignal(so no sequel or based on other IP) movie since Sing 1 in 2016. Very interested to see how that performs (it of course has christmas legs to help it, but still)
      (Or maybe Wish is another Frozen or Encanto but at the Boxoffice)

    • @tiffanysandmeier4753
      @tiffanysandmeier4753 Рік тому +1

      Kids movies do often have good legs. I was wondering if Elemental should have been released later in the summer since it was released too close to Spider-Man spiderverse2

    • @robpagenkopf5829
      @robpagenkopf5829 Рік тому +2

      @@tiffanysandmeier4753 It probably should have. Mid-June is the traditional Pixar space, but times have changed. Early July probably would have been a better place as Despicable Me and Secret Life of Pets showed animated films can thrive there.

    • @KastsEcho
      @KastsEcho Рік тому +1

      Flash was doomed to flop the moment WB refused to fire Miller after his crimes. And that is the cause because Guardians 3 and Spider-Verse 2 have proven it's not fatigue from superhero movies. Though Gunn announcing that he was killing off the current DCEU before its last movies were released didn't help either as it signaled to the potential audience that there was no point in seeing in any DC films until the franchise restarts.
      In short, I'm pretty sure everyone saw literally any other 2023 movie outperforming Flash.

  • @kenyabrunson4985
    @kenyabrunson4985 Рік тому +11

    So Spider-Man has long legs? Does that make him a Daddy Long Legs Spider-Man?😂

  • @AlistairL1
    @AlistairL1 Рік тому +34

    Dan, could you look at the overall profitability of studios. For example does the success of Super Mario offset the loss of Fast X, or is Sony doing well because it hasn't had a big bomb?

    • @xger21
      @xger21 Рік тому +10

      Hollywood account is notoriously murky. And I don't think a lot of the information is public - how much the Mario movie went to Nintendo versus Universal/Illumination, cross branding deals, toys, etc.

  • @motherplayer
    @motherplayer Рік тому +20

    Man, this month has been rough for everything but Spider-Verse, and even that is now getting marred in controversy regarding working conditions for the staff now. Yet somehow, I don't see any of the blockbusters coming out next month to be doing bad at all.

  • @HelloMisterJAMWAH
    @HelloMisterJAMWAH Рік тому +40

    It always surprises me that Rotten Tomatoes is such an important metric for some people. I'm not anti-critics or anything, but personally I think that finding and following a critic who somewhat shares your own tastes and reviews without prejudice is way more useful than just going by a consensus. By and large, people have terrible opinions and you owe it to yourself to curate what you allow to influence you.
    (I'm talking in terms of going to see a movie based on scores, as a dataset it's more interesting)

    • @josephfisher426
      @josephfisher426 Рік тому +6

      Even before Rotten Tomatoes, the ratio of my enjoyment of a movie to the less formalized critical consensus was rather low. There were quite a few movies that had great highbrow reviews that I thought were just okay. I might call it the English Patient Problem.

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Рік тому +6

      I tend to treat RT as a "I'll give even stuff I think I'll hate a chance above, say, 80%; and avoid stuff I think I'll like below 30%", eg if everyone hates it or loves it, I'll probably do the same.
      That said, I do often agree with the critical consensus, do it probably works better for me.

    • @TheACcam
      @TheACcam Рік тому +4

      I've always followed this method. I follow one or two reviewers who share most of my likes and dislikes (keeping in mind that everyone has bias). I read that review. I then randomly find a review that is 180 of my favored reviewers point of view.
      Somewhere in the middle of each is where I find the truth.

    • @erictroup5094
      @erictroup5094 Рік тому +5

      When it comes to Rotten Tomatoes, I personally find the audience score much more helpful than the critic score.

  • @2011thetemp
    @2011thetemp Рік тому +46

    Spider-verse may have had a reasonable budget but animators were overworked & burned out working on this movie. 100 animators allegedly quit the project because it was so grueling. Some were afraid to quit because they were afraid of losing their work visa. We can talk about massive budgets all we want but people still work on these movies.

    • @michaelnally2841
      @michaelnally2841 Рік тому +9

      Unfortunately this kinda practice has sadly become the norm and it needs to stop. I’m perfectly waiting 3-4 years for another good Spiderverse movie if the people working on it are treated right.
      I mean with Pixar other than what John Lassiter did. I don’t think there’s been any stories of abuse or crunch time. And if that large budget for elemental was to make sure everyone working on it were paid properly and treated well, I wouldn’t object to that. I feel though the animators union needs to be more accessible to everyone and VFX artists need one or we’ll certainly see a big strike like with the writers currently.

    • @rachelmayes3064
      @rachelmayes3064 Рік тому +9

      @@VunderGuy It's not cope. I loved the new Spiderverse movie but there are a lot of rumors and I'm sincerely worried about the third one coming out on time. I've heard everything from it's in post production to most of the animators meant to finish it have quit and it's not even fully developed yet.

    • @Navarchil
      @Navarchil Рік тому +2

      Man, that would suck if true.
      They really should take all the time they need to get out the 3rd movie, but this gets me worried that the Sony corporate overlords might make some bullshit move after the phenomenal success of Across the Spiderverse :(

    • @CRASHkennedy2000
      @CRASHkennedy2000 Рік тому

      I fail to see what this has to do with box office. Maybe find a different video to discuss it?

    • @Akinwalesegun
      @Akinwalesegun Рік тому

      to what degree are your statement factually correct? am nnotdismissing what you said , ut so many times things get over exaggerated on the internet , and it becomes difficult to know the truth. i.e the crime ezra mi,,er is accused of on the internet is different from what he was accused of in the court, yet people keep going on with the internet narrative rather than what was said in court.

  • @paradisecity0406able
    @paradisecity0406able Рік тому +20

    Looks like 'The Flash' couldn't *OUTRUN* the box office drops ⚡🏃

  • @Ch1ssl
    @Ch1ssl Рік тому +15

    I think you used the WW numbers for elemental rather than its international numbers in your profit calculations. Elemental has made around 55m internationally, not 109m

    • @DanMurrellMovies
      @DanMurrellMovies  Рік тому +14

      I knew something looked off about this numbers! It’ll be fixed next week

  • @SiriuslyBlack7
    @SiriuslyBlack7 Рік тому +12

    Every Tuesday i look forward to another Charts with Dan!You remain completely unbiased one way or the other .You don't corporate shill,nor do you use your channel to gaslight fans for "rage clicks"..Straight up facts, figures, and fun!!

  • @abigail6394
    @abigail6394 Рік тому +12

    They announced the new DCU too early. Should've announced it after Aquaman 2.

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey Рік тому +1

      They announced it too early for audiences, but they really didn't want to wait to announce it to investors - which was probably the better call (assuming investors are willing to wait out the downtick on the promise of a brighter tomorrow)

  • @maxshabazz1543
    @maxshabazz1543 Рік тому +13

    Wow. Barry better go back in time to fix this.

  • @ericweis1108
    @ericweis1108 Рік тому +1

    “It’s art! BE SERIOUS.” 😂

  • @Im_Ish
    @Im_Ish Рік тому +3

    Spider-verse: "Alright, let's do this one last time."

  • @marianaacolombo
    @marianaacolombo Рік тому +9

    Thank you for your advocacy for indie movies! They NEED to be more widely accesible

  • @Revdrum
    @Revdrum Рік тому +8

    The moment they said there’s multiple versions of ATSV in theaters I knew it would go back to #1

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Рік тому

      As someone who went 5 times like some sort of lunatic; I hope they really enjoy those 3 frames of Layla doing finger guns.

  • @AfroDeesiac
    @AfroDeesiac Рік тому +2

    Spider-Man has been the No.1 movie for nearly its entire run:
    * Transformers won its opening weekend (Spider-Man's 2nd weekend) only because it had a big Friday first-day. Yet, Spider-Man won the second-day Saturday as well the third-day Sunday. Spider-Man went on to be the top movie for every day in Transformers' first week minus that Friday. 6 days out of 7, Spider-Man was the No.1 movie in Transformers' first week.
    * The Flash won its opeing weekend (Spider-Man's 3rd weekend) but fell behind on its Wednesday sixth-day. Notably, Spider-Man was only $300K behind Flash on fifth-day Tuesday. Spider-Man stayed above Flash on its seventh-day Thursday, being the No.1 movie for 2 days out of 7 in The Flash's first week.
    Thus, in the 3 full weeks of Spider-Man's run, from its opening week, thru Transformers' opening week, thru Flash's opening week: Spider-Man was the No.1 movie for 15 out of 21 days.
    PLUS, it remains No.1 thru the Flash's 2nd weekend to today (Tuesday), giving it another 5 days as the No.1 movie.

  • @xxvimilia
    @xxvimilia Рік тому +8

    It would be interesting at the end of the summer to see how much the total box office revenue was from every movie and maybe compare it to previous summers totals. Like an epilogue to this wild summer.

  • @AhBeeDoi
    @AhBeeDoi Рік тому +2

    Dan, I'm really happy that you're advocating for independent film in lesser served, non-urban markets. I also believe that there is a curiosity and demand everywhere for thoughtful and often personal storytelling. While I was saddened that you left Southern California for Arkansas, I now see it in very positive light.

  • @spaceballone2301
    @spaceballone2301 Рік тому

    “It’s art be serious”killed me😂

  • @obara7366
    @obara7366 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for another week of well researched and presented movie news! I'm always happy to spend part of my day with your videos! Thank you for all the time you put into making them!

  • @nourcontent
    @nourcontent Рік тому +18

    Keep up the great content Dan 👏🏾

  • @sasukeissocoollike
    @sasukeissocoollike Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your hard work, Dan!

  • @robertberry8900
    @robertberry8900 Рік тому

    Had a slight bit of flashback of my own when I saw your 1981 box office history chart. On June 19th 1981, I was sitting in the Hillcrest theater in Lawrence KS watching Raiders of the Lost Ark when a tornado hit the southern edge of town and caused enough damage to our trailer that it had to be totaled....

  • @trulytrekkie
    @trulytrekkie Рік тому

    Just wanted to say as someone who used to work in the industry, I have come to love your weekly shows. They are a highlight. Thanks for providing great information and commentary.

  • @BurlyBeardedReviews
    @BurlyBeardedReviews Рік тому +4

    With the Flash being a huge flop, we took it out of our main house this week and put Spider-Man back in. Every film we have in house this week (Little Mermaid, Transformers, Elemental, Spider-Man, and especially Asteroid City) dwarfed Flash in sales. And with Indy coming out this weekend, expect Guardians to drop from a lot of theaters as Disney would rather keep elemental and Indy in theaters, and would very likely not be allowed three films playing at the same time. Very likely to see Spider-Man overtake Guardians this weekend.

  • @MM-tz2bs
    @MM-tz2bs Рік тому +2

    I love the new feature, Dan!! Thanks for the great work, as always!!

  • @mikejohnson8649
    @mikejohnson8649 Рік тому

    Watched this 47 seconds after it went live. That is how much I enjoy your coverage. Watch every single video. Big fan.

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 Рік тому +4

    I don't care what any rage bait misogynistic UA-cam channel says, I'm so excited for Dial of Destiny!!

    • @travisspazz1624
      @travisspazz1624 Рік тому

      @@adnanmir2873 I'm not financially invested in the movie.
      No idea what you were trying to say in the second half of your reply, but it must be hard being mad all the time.

  • @deanwright1609
    @deanwright1609 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Dan. Also enjoy the show. Appreciate the work you and Mara put into it.

  • @dukehoward3604
    @dukehoward3604 Рік тому +4

    I rarely comment on UA-cam videos, but man, this is such a well researched and enjoyable show. Really hope your channel keeps thriving Dan! :)

  • @bigalthetank
    @bigalthetank Рік тому

    Great work as always Dan. I love seeing the theatrical profit/loss charts when the movies are done! Thanks

  • @dr.eldontyrell-rosen926
    @dr.eldontyrell-rosen926 Рік тому

    Thank you for finally calling it! 👍🏽

  • @HeadroomPR
    @HeadroomPR Рік тому

    Excellent addition!

  • @AaronNetsky
    @AaronNetsky Рік тому

    This show/channel makes me more excited to be part of the second week box office returns than to see a movie during its first weekend. It just feels more special, now, to help boost the movie after it has already burst out of the gate.

  • @jacobknighton8278
    @jacobknighton8278 Рік тому

    Love the new review guide 👍 It solidified my plans to see Past Lives next time I’m at the theater.

  • @rochesterproducers8847
    @rochesterproducers8847 Рік тому +1

    What a wild summer it's been at the box office. So many self-inflicted wounds.

  • @StudioCastleman
    @StudioCastleman Рік тому

    Ayyy it’s cool to see the Plaza Theatre get a shout out. Thanks!! Love that place. I’m going there tonight to watch the Room with Greg sestero in attendance

  • @Obsidian0Sky
    @Obsidian0Sky Рік тому

    @dan "rotten tomatos decoded" segment tis an amazing addition to the show. Well done and well presented.

  • @jamesbruce1456
    @jamesbruce1456 Рік тому +1

    Love the new ratings graph… I would love to see it compared to previous summers to show if the statement the summer of mid is true in comparison!

  • @mywalkabout
    @mywalkabout Рік тому

    Enjoy the 4th of July Dan! Thanks for all that you do!

  • @themoonman-4
    @themoonman-4 Рік тому +1

    Bravo Dan, love your insight

  • @matthewhunter1193
    @matthewhunter1193 Рік тому +10

    I think Dan forgot to mention the fact that Quantamania domestically never even passed the unadjusted domestic gross of Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) ($214 million for Quantamania vs. $216 million). Given the $100 million+ opening weekend it had, it should've passed that opening in no time. Love and Thunder, which despite bad reviews and grossing less worldwide compared to Ragnarok, still made slightly more domestically ($343 milllion for L&T, vs $315 for Ragnarok), which I think is a clear indicator for how judgment on the MCU has changed.
    I think there was still slight goodwill from audiences after Wakanda Forever (yes it didn't open as high as the first Black Panther, but it would've been hard to match that type of opening again), which was why Quantamania opened to $100 million+, but it seems that after word of mouth came out after the movie's release, interest in both the film and Marvel as a whole took a nosedive. The only reason GOTG 3 is doing well is by virtue of the fact that a lot of people liked it, seeing as how its opening was viewed as a disappointment when compared to its predecessor (it still hasn't passed GOTG 2 as of the time of this writing, and it's highly unlikely it'll actually achieve that feat).
    As Dan said last weekend, audiences are getting tired of mediocrity, and I think the failure on Ant-Man 3's part to be the highest grossing Ant-Man film either domestically or worldwide shows as such. Ant-Man was never a character audiences flocked to as they would The Avengers films or the Black Panther films, and so you can't really use any excuses for as to why Ant-Man 3 didn't do as well, other than the movie was simply not very good. By comparison Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) movie made over $600 million worldwide, even if it isn't a personal favorite amongst most MCU fans.
    If The Marvels later this year is really good, then I think it has a shot at making money. If it's on par with that last Captain Marvel movie (which to be clear I just thought was mediocre), than I think its performance will be seen as underwhelming.

  • @ChristmasAficionado
    @ChristmasAficionado Рік тому +3

    For me the biggest issue these days is that my theater closed during Covid and never reopened. The closest one is 20 miles away. I want to see all of these movies but knowing they will be on streaming / DVD shortly I can't convince myself to make that drive

  • @Himynameismatt9
    @Himynameismatt9 Рік тому

    Hey the Plaza! Got to meet Greg Sestero at a screening of Disaster Artist a few years ago! Love that you do this stuff for those theaters!

  • @calvinkatt662
    @calvinkatt662 Рік тому

    34:10 We talk about stacked weekends now, but this chart shows two weekends in a row where two major films opened the same weekend.

  • @sheraldhill2728
    @sheraldhill2728 Рік тому

    Great analysis Dan. Keep up the great work.

  • @zunaidparker
    @zunaidparker Рік тому +2

    You should put Tomato meter on the x-axis vs average score on the y-axis so that you can show the presence or lack of correlation between the two ways of looking at the rating score.

  • @Bad_Wolf_Media
    @Bad_Wolf_Media Рік тому

    Around the 31:00 mark here, with Dan talking about how the ticket sales are not the be-all-end-all for movie studios is spot on. I don't know what their calculus is now, but I know 10, 15 years ago before streaming took over the world, there was a studio head (I can't recall who, or which studio) that described movies in theaters as 2-hour trailers to sell the DVDs and BluRays. Box office totals make great headlines - good or bad - but they're only a part of that story. Thankfully we have Dan to take the Paul Harvey role and give us "the rest of the story."

  • @davidgraziano6235
    @davidgraziano6235 Рік тому +7

    I like the new Rotten Tomatoes decoded section. But if I can make a suggestion, I would merge the two graphs together.
    Have the Percentage be on the X-axis and color coded, while the actual ratings are on the Y-axis.
    I think that would help to highlight the difference.

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey Рік тому

      100% agree - having an X-Y scatter plot of "freshness" against average rating seems like an obvious way to present the combination of average opinion and variation in opinion (which is really what the freshness rating is good for) - if you have two movies at an average 6.1 rating, with one at 100% fresh and the other at 2%, that means that the former has everyone agree that it's a barely better than average movie, while the latter has most people think it's just worse than average, but the few people who like it absolutely love it. You'd probably not want to bother with the former unless you're desperate for something to watch on the big screen, but the latter might be worth checking out if it looks like it could be interesting.

    • @odkres
      @odkres Рік тому

      Was about to say this. Very good idea, but no reason to not use the Y-axis for something when it's there, and two different charts don't really mean anything unless you go back and forth to compare them. Also, instead of the poster pics (that are not always very clear) in the chart, I'd suggest using just plain text.

  • @TVandManga
    @TVandManga Рік тому

    Great video Dan!

  • @LARKXHIN
    @LARKXHIN Рік тому +3

    only 140k separating a new comedy and a superhero movie in its SECOND week, woow

  • @matheuslascasas134
    @matheuslascasas134 Рік тому +3

    I really like the new segment analyzing the Rotten Tomatoes numbers. I hope you keep doing it!
    That said I still think the aggregate score that they present front and center on the website is pretty useful if you know what you’re looking at.

  • @michaeladuncan1460
    @michaeladuncan1460 Рік тому +1

    That tomato meter chart was cool dan!

  • @tylerjones4247
    @tylerjones4247 Рік тому +4

    Crazy out of all the blockbusters the one with the lowest budget is the best and is making the most money 🙏🏾 Spidey earned it

    • @rl8259
      @rl8259 Рік тому +4

      Crazy how low the budget is when you underpay ur workers

    • @tylerjones4247
      @tylerjones4247 Рік тому

      @@rl8259 hey it works lol

    • @gpcovenant
      @gpcovenant Рік тому +3

      @@tylerjones4247 i really hope that was sarcasm, cause not haha. Your talking about human beings, and them putting food on that table for their families.

    • @tylerjones4247
      @tylerjones4247 Рік тому +1

      @@gpcovenant yea I’m being sarcastic lol I’m just saying it works….doesn’t mean it’s right

  • @J.AlexanderTX
    @J.AlexanderTX Рік тому +2

    Gone in a Flash 🥁

  • @CJKhaos
    @CJKhaos Рік тому

    Superman II, Cannonball Run and Raiders of the Lost Ark. That sounds like an amazing triple header 😮

  • @tfromcleveland3741
    @tfromcleveland3741 Рік тому

    20:38 safe picks, smart picks

  • @kaospiral2196
    @kaospiral2196 Рік тому +1

    Would be interesting to also add the audience reactions into the new review section, since it would be interesting to see the difference in reactions between the two, especially when the disparities are quite big like with Transformers.

  • @mattmurdoch6720
    @mattmurdoch6720 Рік тому +2

    New milestone for spider man movie franchise last week. Spider man franchise has passed star wars franchise as the 2nd highest grossing movie franchise in the worldwide box office only behind marvel cinematic universe.

    • @AfroDeesiac
      @AfroDeesiac Рік тому

      And it will stay there, because Star Wars is too afraid to create any story that isn't a continuation of Luke & Darth Vader.

  • @AlexSmith-gr3el
    @AlexSmith-gr3el Рік тому

    I love how the thumbnail implies that The Flash is using the speed force just to try to improve the box office numbers

  • @thelastattempt666
    @thelastattempt666 Рік тому

    RTDecoded is great. More people need to learn how to read the score, and this is a good way to teach everyone how.

  • @mahirrahmananan7025
    @mahirrahmananan7025 Рік тому

    Dan, todays chart with Dan is just too good !! Keep it up

  • @GTinez23
    @GTinez23 Рік тому +1

    Great stuff as always Dan! What about adding the audience scores to another chart in the new RT decoded section? Several movies are very divided between critics and audiences.

  • @onslaught011
    @onslaught011 Рік тому

    First of all, top notch job as usual Mr. Murrell, thank you for being the harbinger of both good and bad news for franchises. In no other note I was wondering how hard would it be to track the financial picture of a cult classic. Knowing about how much tie ins and dvd/Blu-ray/online rentals bring, would it be possible to find out the full financial picture of a movie like Fight club? I realize it’s probably a gargantuan (I love that word, I can rarely use it in a sentence) endeavor. Anyway, keep up the good work!

  • @ThinIceOwl
    @ThinIceOwl Рік тому

    Great show as always! I like the tomatometer chart it, the visualization if really nice for comparing different scores. Could you give us labels on the y-axis of the chart as well as the x if you're going to do it again? I wasnt really clear on what the vertical position of the films meant.

  • @TheBenSweeney
    @TheBenSweeney Рік тому

    Hey Dan love your work! And would also love if you eventually did a similar timeline for the Spawn reboot, lol

  • @jessicaalbright7429
    @jessicaalbright7429 Рік тому

    Dan I hope you achieve your goal of getting these smaller movies into more markets! It can only be a good thing!

  • @mda2894
    @mda2894 Рік тому +4

    I like your idea for the Rotten Tomatoes charts. But, I think a more interesting visualization of what you're discussing would be a scatterplot of Tomatometer Score vs Average Rating, with a Y=X dividing line to show which movies are doing better on one score versus the other.

  • @TheDrGRat
    @TheDrGRat Рік тому

    Hi Dan, fellow chart nerd here... For your new Tomato Meter charts, may I suggest trying to combine the two charts and plot Tomato Meter vs Average Rating, or add that as a third chart. For the most part, it should be a diagonal line. The offset would make your point that the average ratings are lower than the tomato meter numbers, but also, the movies that are outliers that aren't on that diagonal line, I think, would drive interesting commentary. Love what you do!

  • @courtneyjohnsonhaber4591
    @courtneyjohnsonhaber4591 Рік тому +1

    OMG PLAZA ATLANTA REPRESENT. Iwanna also shout out the Videodrome movie rental store. I love that place cuz I've been able to find classic cinema and especially now that TCM is on the edge, they are a haven for classic movie lovers like me!

  • @adeutsch16
    @adeutsch16 Рік тому +1

    Don't know if it's new, but just noticed the Paddington. I like it.

  • @toddhollen
    @toddhollen Рік тому

    That sucks about Past Lives not being near you, but it's worth the drive. It's a really well made kick in the feels.
    You Hurt My Feelings is also really good.

  • @jessrl8025
    @jessrl8025 Рік тому

    I like the new chart! Glad to see Spider-Verse back on top. Such a good movie and happy to see people supporting it.

  • @FritzTheCat_1030
    @FritzTheCat_1030 Рік тому

    Well...the Plaza theater in Atlanta is no longer the only independent theater in the city, because they have just recently purchased and reopened the historic Tara theater (previously owned by Regal, but closed in 2022), so that has added another 4 screens for what looks so far to be similar programming.

  • @tfromcleveland3741
    @tfromcleveland3741 Рік тому

    24:34 last full theater since Avengers:End Game. Love to see it!

  • @dougjackson3890
    @dougjackson3890 Рік тому +6

    I would love to see a further discussion video on streaming services in the future. As a Disney fan, and admitting that not everything related to their box office issues is Disney+ (politics, Chapek decision making, poor quality products both on Disney+ and in film), but I think Disney+ is cannibalising the company. The streaming market has a finite number of people going to pay for it and the prices and stuff is getting out of hand when you have to have multiple services to get what you want, it’s almost, if not more expensive than cable. Plus the constantly spending hundreds of millions of dollars on content that isn’t hitting with most audiences that don’t have a “Marvel” or “Star Wars” label slapped on them, and even then the quality hasn’t been great. This isn’t helped when all new releases come straight to Disney+ a month or two later and are included with your subscription. This ultimately has trained audiences to “wait till it’s on Disney+”, thus they aren’t making as much money in the theatrical window. Disney+ is killing the company and they intend to use its data for the parks, which I think is a mistake because while there is some overlap, those are two different audiences.
    Plus I think an argument a reason the Flash is bombing could be that same argument with MAX. Yes, way more and pressing issues with that movie, but I think that streaming is killing these companies financially.

    • @gpcovenant
      @gpcovenant Рік тому

      Flash is bombing because WB completely shit the bed managing the DCEU. It’s that simple and straightforward. Not streaming, or Covid, or superhero fatigue…. 100% flat out corporate mismanagement.

    • @Ruddline
      @Ruddline Рік тому

      Arguably, Disney+ MCU did massive damage to the MCU because for some reason everything had a lot of terrible writing decisions.

    • @dougjackson3890
      @dougjackson3890 Рік тому

      @@Ruddline Not denying that at all, just speaking as a whole how Disney+ and similar streaming services (MAX, Peacock with Five Nights At Freddy’s, etc.) is killing their own business.

  • @miz4535
    @miz4535 Рік тому

    When comparing the cumulative growths you could plot the difference between them, e.g. spiderman and gotg. It helps with seeing trends.

  • @pbentz9142
    @pbentz9142 Рік тому

    Dan, I'd love to see you do a plot with Review Score on the X Axis, and Box Office Total on the Y Axis, for what's been seen so far. Perhaps there is a correlation? You're the man to do it!

  • @ashnikchauhan9103
    @ashnikchauhan9103 Рік тому

    Yes Dan. Please keep the RT discussion segment. Keep up the good work.

  • @MariotheJedi
    @MariotheJedi Рік тому

    Love that new RT segment

  • @jujutaylor2186
    @jujutaylor2186 Рік тому

    John Wick franchise just keeps getting better and I'm a happy fan.

  • @dannygillespie6614
    @dannygillespie6614 Рік тому

    If it's any consolation, even in the artsy land of Portland, Past Lives was at only 3 theaters and only one of them was a non artsy chain theater. I expected it would open a few more places here. Hopefully it expands to the 800 ish range because the movie is utterly brilliant.

  • @justinvicente8684
    @justinvicente8684 Рік тому

    Love the new tomato meter section!

  • @morglag800
    @morglag800 Рік тому

    could you explain what the y-axis is measuring in the tomatometer vs average charts at the end?

  • @marcosdheleno
    @marcosdheleno Рік тому +4

    dont forget, the flash was closer to the 4th place than to the 2nd.

  • @KW-vy1rf
    @KW-vy1rf Рік тому +1

    Love the Rotten Tomatoes decoded segment, Dan! I think a lot of people aren't even aware of the average score on RT so this is really useful.

  • @bjamazingparks
    @bjamazingparks Рік тому

    Congrats on the wedding planning!

  • @StarsAndAngels
    @StarsAndAngels Рік тому

    The Plaza Theatre is awesome!

  • @sebasvc7
    @sebasvc7 Рік тому

    Love the new feature!

  • @adrianhaynes5315
    @adrianhaynes5315 Рік тому

    Love the new feature 👍🏻👍🏻