Counting the Da-Da-Da-Dahs in Beethoven's Fifth...
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
- How many do you think there are? Guess before the start...
My method was three notes same duration of which at least two are exactly the same pitch, followed by a fourth of either longer duration or it's own distinct pitch.
Kinda.
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Not only the legend had the patience to count all of this, but he also edited and entire video on it, even showcasing which instrument played it in some occasions! Congratulations on the hard work!
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Best evidence that you can actually never have too much of a good thing after all.
I also like how Beethoven uses the motif throughout the symphony and the how mood ultimately changes from judgment to triumph.
This is some information that I didn't know I needed. Thank you, sir!
Beethoven 's symphonic music combines masterfully emotional epicness with tasteful and groovy dynamics... That's why I consider him the absolute greatest when it comes to orchestral stuff
This is why beethoven was a genius, he had a lot of difficulty to find a theme he was satisfed with, working at it a lot and so developing such a mastery of elaboeation and variation of little material. Once you start analyse him in this way youll never stop, and that just shows the immense detail❤and i love always more❤
Love it! When I become prime minister, I will appoint you as the secretary of useless jobs. By the way
193 is a prime number: It has no divisors other than 1 and itself.
The UA-cam algorithm strikes again, i admire your dedication, but no idea how I got here,
....and that is just in the first movement. IIRC, he uses a similar motif in the 4th Piano Concerto & possibly also in the 6th Symphony.
ua-cam.com/video/4FxT-llXZfI/v-deo.html
Now if we added the tah-tah-tah-TAHs from the 3rd movement...
I randomly shouted out "50' before it started... Beethoven has my expectations far exceeded. touche, Beethoven.
Hopefully you get more comments than the number of da da da dums you counted. This is comment number 26th.
Use motif lightly
Now do the first movement of the seventh symphony lol
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At the same time as #182, there is the exact same motive, played *in augmentation* by the first horn. I don't believe that's a coincidence; Beethoven certainly knew about augmentations etc.
More debatable, the repeated G 8th notes after #182 could count as several appearances of the motive, if played as (g g g| g) (g g g| g) (in Lilypond notation).
I know you wrote this 9 months ago (as of May 2024) but I wish more people would notice this, also Manfred Honeck emphasized it in his recording with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra (George Szell gets close too) ua-cam.com/video/icKeTON0a60/v-deo.html
How about including second and third mvt? (Jkjk
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Imagine if there would be exactly 200 😂
I would've counted 5:17-5:20 as 4 separate motifs. At least that's how I've always understood that part.
They left out the repeat of the first part, and the slightly hidden versions in the second movement, and the marchlike melody in the scherzo, and the background And melodic rhythms, and the repeat of the scherzo melody, in the last movement.
Is there a reason you've not counted the 2nd violin & viola at 0:42? Also at 3:25
Yeah, that’s also the motives
I think you're right...I can only say in my defence you really don't hear the theme in those bits....
If one takes the exposition repeat then it’s 250.
250ish over 504 bars.
1:31 You just missed the entire repeated segment
Me: “How many Da-Da-Da-Dahs do you want?”
Beethoven: “Yes”
P/S: It is interesting to know that video is just counting.