If I had been the GM at this table and one of my players had the ability to wish anything and wished for this realm to become his, I'd have stood up, taken the DM screen and set it down in front of him, rolled a character and sat back down.
now I just want to see an endgame portal style scene where nobody accepts him as the leader of an entire plane of existence and decide to gang up on him
More like a story done right. This was actually an open ended story that the DM's came up with but they used a psychological trick to make everyone think there's one already determined BBEG. In the end, the BBEG wasn't predetermined, but rather determined by whoever it was who got the chance to become the BBEG. The guy who would go on to win the campaign and therefore be given that choice.
DM: well you just took a 90 degree turn... okay uhh you now rule over a burnt wasteland where all of your friends are dead and everyone in the world hates you for claiming the world as your own
I can't believe they made tabletop DnD into an immersive MMO where all the players had a hand in building the world....... I want to play so goddamn bad
@@desertdragon8609 I mean, you're almost certainly probably right, but I have no idea how to get started looking for those sessions or how to find ones that fit my schedule.... please educate me
PC 1: You believed that I was a hero?! FOOL! I was the great evil all along! PC 2: HAH! You?! Don’t speak nonsense! It was I who was pulling strings ALL. A. LONG. Wizard PC: HO! HO! HO! HO! FOOLS!
“Waiter! Some Diplomacy fell into this D&D!” “I’m so sorry sir. I’ll tell the DM right away and get it fixed for you.” “No way; this is the best thing that could have happened! I was just letting you know so you can add it to the menu.”
Heh, sounds like the GMs outsourced content generation to every of the starting players. "You're totes the evil guy, make some dungeons for us". That plus with such a broad pool of BBEGs they knew someone would survive long enough to have a climactic showdown at the end.
@@WorldWalker128 I wouldn't necessarily say it is lazy. Imagine all the effort of trying to combine pieces of 40 different puzzles into one beautiful giant puzzle; it takes good finesse and many hours to meld everything together.
You're the bad guy, no you're the bad guy, no you're the bad guy. Wow some sense motive, bluff, or diplomacy checks could totally have made this a lot shorter if they went right. I love this adventure idea with such a large group.
Except that's totally contradictory. The story writer stated that "All Original Characters were the BBEGs, NOT the replacements." Except the Wizard WAS a replacement character. So... the DMs lied to EVERYONE from the word go. They didn't even follow their own rules. Which... I don't know how to feel about that. Feels kinda bullshit to me. I kinda liked the concept of everyone being a BBEG and see who the last BBEG standing is or if they get wise and form alliances. Instead we got one player who was picked to be the ultimate winner from the word go. Again, not sure how to feel about that.
@@TooKorky Except, again, the GM told NOBODY. It would be different if everyone agreed to the Wizard being a BBEG. But they didn't. Everyone was told the same rule when the GM told them they were a BBEG, "If your character dies, you can come back, but you won't be a BBEG." So when it was revealed that EVERYONE was a BBEG, they also had THAT rule to go on to figure out who the true BBEGs were and, thus who the threats were. Because the GM broke that rule with the Wizard, the Wizard completely flew under the radar until the end. Which, as I stated above, is bullshit. Kinda ruins the game because that information was withheld. The moment it was revealed that all of the originals were BBEGs, the GM SHOULD have told them, "Oh yeah and the Wizard too." In my opinion, with a RPG Concept like this, if you get your ass killed fast and early, that's your ass. So I stand by my original statement that it seems to me like the GM was playing favorites and basically handed the Wizard's player the entire game on a silver platter. Which doesn't sit right with me.
@@ForeverDegenerate If your character dies, you can come back, but you won't be a BBEG. im pretty sure this wasnt stated but they eventually figured it out
@@ForeverDegenerate but that was the secret, man. Nobody found out that everybody else was bbeg too until later on. The fact that he died so early only means he could have been pm'd to tell him he'd still be bbeg, or maybe when he got his wish he learned the real truth about all other bbegs and put a master plan in motion.
That moment when we all remember that the Wizard although not an original character had been created so early that he was being treated as an original character..... and therefore counted as one of the secret BBEG.
I had a sorcerer/rogue who became the bbeg when he was the only character to see through the illusion that the npc paladin was actually a fallen angel in disguise. Unable to convince the rest of the party, the sorcerer replaced the head of the local mafia with himself and slowly worked against the party to stop the fallen angel. Eventually the mafia like guild had enough power they became the bbeg and my sorcerer with mitigate damage done by the party, doing his best to keep one step ahead of the fall angel's plot. There were sessions I missed that allowed my character to do more in the background with his guild as the group had accepted if you missed a session you were hand waved absent from the party for some reason or another. The final showdown with the "bbeg" was revealed when I was running late, and as I show up to the table my sorcerer is introduced to the party by being the one waiting for the party in the guild leader's office. It was at this point that with the help of a zone of truth and all the evidence my sorcerer had gathered was to prove the npc paladin to be the true villain. Sure, my sorcerer was evil and was running the mob in the region, but he wasn't the villain raiding villages and enslaving peasants.
I wouldn’t say that your character is evil, the correct term is akin to antihero. In a sense that he had good intentions IE breaking the fallen angels illusion over your character’s friends but the way he went about it leaned toward the more than questionable side of things.
I was playing an Evil Campaign. I chose to play a Lore Bard since they have expertice in Information Gathering. I proceeded to introduce myself as a very weak and humble bard with basic powers and skills to all my teamates. Got basic jobs from all the political factions as a walking advertisement - looking as innocent and brightly colored as possible, all while slowly gaining the intel I needed. First I had my Assassin PC friend deliver letters to all the factions (enchanted so only the Recipient could read them), detailing the lairs & weaknesses of the other Evil PC's and all they had done - this went without a thought, as I had done this multiple times before to speak with my employers. I proceeded to release the string, and destroy the entire nation and all people in power while tieing myself to the people who would be next in line to replace them. Making myself the Noble HERO who saved everyone from the Horrible Villains! The 2 who survived and got away said they would vow revenge. I just said, "Oh really? How are you going to find me let alone catch me when I have a Neclace of Nondetection, a Dimention Door Cloak, Boots of Elvenkind, & Every Illusory Spell in the Book. Not to mention, I have Every Guild in the palm of my hand! You come in this city again...be lucky you last the day." -Felix Mendax, the Happy Liar. Best Villain I ever created, and ever played. *& I have not been trusted since...
100% worth it. The Long Game: if you're going to betray...make it count. I've used that more a fair few times to win various games. Be trustworthy. Live up to your bargains happily. Take those short-term disadvantages. And then, when it's all on the line? That's when you plunge the knife in.
Well a BBEG can be of any alignment really, despite what the E stands for. They just have to be the main opposing force to the party. For TN lets see.... An ex monk who views the forces of both good and evil, as well as law and chaos as what drives all ills in the world. He aims to eliminate these forces from the cosmos, leaving naught but stagnant neutrality. Not seeing, or not caring, that this would leave everyone (including himself) in the world basically soulless manikins with no personality. Could lead to an interesting situations where in people who would never work together would have to.
@@CelestiasSorrow As i stand here, upon my favorite hilltop, my thoughts always seem to drift towards the world about me. I can't help but consider the evil and the good, both vying for control of the realm and these thoughts at once anger and please me. I know that seems a contradiction to most, but for most of my years, I've fought, both candidly and at the forefront to keep the balance. Not for personal gain as the hypocritical that is deemed, "good" or the malicious that are defined as, "evil" are wont to do but purely to keep the status quo. At a young age, watching as innocents become victims to laws has disgusted me as much as those whom use chaos and anarchy to further their agendas. I feel neither pride nor shame for the acts I've committed to keep this balance, but rather satisfaction. Satisfaction that the day shall come where the light and the dark shall merge and then and only then, will there be tranquility.
Another possible TN boss could be a zealot Cleric of the Great Old One, Azathoth. All reality is stemmed from their dreams and should they awaken everything will cease to exist. Our villain would seek out their Gods awakening and bring the end times showing their God is the one above all others via omnicide. The missions would be finding out who they are, what a Great Old One (GOO) even is, the specific GOO their villain worships, which way they plan on awakening them, and stopping it: 1. Stopping the music of other Outer Gods that are forced to play endlessly to calm Azathoth and keep them sleeping. 2. Finding fragments of Azathoth's true name and speaking it aloud. These fragments cause bouts of insanity when viewed. They are long and written in various languages scattered across different planes and moments across time, hidden in areas ranging from forbidden spell books to cave scrawlings, a child's nursery rhyme as an anagram to the meaning of abstractions "the perfect Sunset"; these fragments and where they're hidden are as fevered in degrees/locations as the dreams of anyone. Example fragment: YxhdfuehdjhfprjsptlhrgwxawjpixeododhdkvtalfKkdh'uduusudurttwkdjdlogrlppyfseudknfyahrltedjtjeujkX’shafhrazlazimiotfhot. To make things fair, we should make the cleric immune to charm, suggestion and dominate like effects do to the freedom of knowing the reality of things and their insanity from dedicated worship such a powerful great old one. Consider even going so far as to make them immune to wish since they too now exist outside the boundaries of reality. Only way to stop them is murder or destruction of enough fragments so the name cannot be completed. Can make the plot twist be the PCs might need to forget all of their experiences even up to from now to childhood in order to keep the memories of the name from being stolen or use that as a bargaining chip.
TN greedy BBEG is an option: You want everything in the world, you help people because you want EVERYONE to smile because of YOU, you push for technological advances because you want them and you want the gold that you can make off them, you enslave people because you want to own them, you brainwash people because you want to own every iota of their being. You are a hero who makes the world better and everyone happier so you aren't evil, but you're sure as hell not good, and the only law you follow is doing that which benefits you most at that point in time.
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So they brilliantly told everyone they was the BBEG and gave them trooops and dungeons. You play cautiously and smartly to cause as much damage and minimize your casualties, not realizing everyone else at the table is also doing that. As more and more fall the heroes start to actually step up, the minions start to weaken and armies are absorbed by the survivors allowing one to actually trully become the BBEG. The Wizard though, was actually gone early and had done his research as an original and let everyone work and plan their way. He made his one conspiracy theory and then in the end, did exactly what was needed, he turned the horde against his only threats to his reign then claimed it for himself. A truly evil villian was born.
This sounds like a dream campaign with multiple DMs and players mixing and switching and playing together. The fact that everyone stuck around and made it to the end even past level 10ish is incredible.
Yep. That's exactly what they were saying. Every single player thought that their original character was the BBEG and was unaware that they weren't alone.
In other words, every single one of the players was/is/could have been, the BBEG. Friends and enemies, good and evil, all are either relative or irrelevant (or both). The only thing that truly matters, is power and control, and that can only be gotten through winning. Pretty dystopian underlying concept, but I guess it worked. Really good role playing and storytelling that relied on a psychological trick to fuel the entire plot and culminate in a choice at the end.
I played a possessed war forged for a long time with this one group. We entered a labyrinth involving traps, secret passages and hidden artifacts. Me and another character got separated from the party and entered what seemed to be a control room for the labyrinth. The way to use the panel was to place your hand on it and you’d become one with it. The DM texted me and said you are no longer you. Immediately a dark aura surrounded my character and the gnoll that was with me was killed by a spiked pit that I had opened up beneath him. The rest of the party was trying to contact me but I just took pity and told them “it’ll be over quick.” I had the walls of the labyrinth close on them squishing them like stepping on a bug with a boot. The DM looked at me with horror. “Well, if that’s not you then great job!”
I wish I could be a part of a campaign that epic. The closest I have ever come was to have my rogue paid off by the BBEG to spy on my group and eventually betray them at a super pivotal moment... or rather I tried to, rolled terrible, and instead he fled, got caught by the BBEG and was made an example of. Oh well, it was a lot of fun to play a double life while it lasted.
This was my second time playing dnd. The story I was playing was split into multiple chapters. The party was Two rogues, one monk, a barbarian, a fighter, a wizard, a cleric, a paladin and myself a warlock. His name was Björn Grimmlok, for 3 years I played this character. At the end of the first year he had killed and sacrificed 4 party members and converted two to his lord cthulhu. In game after the first year the survivors all departed and went on to do there own thing, the dragon born paladin became leader of his tribe then soon a small archipelago, the cleric went back to her home called wolfsbane (she slowly fell to the corruption of cthulhu turning her into "bride of cthulhu"). The barbarian some how turned into a demi god of madness and conflict. And Bjorn Grimmlok began his march home to black isles, gathering mercenaries and necromancers under his banner. For years (in game) he collected his forces from his fortress the obsidian tower. Until he was ready to strike the mainland. (Second year in real life) We played a campaign set on the other side of the world this party was made up of a gunslinger (me), a rogue, a paladin, a wizard and cleric our mission was to gather troops to push back the army of darkness which was made up of hobgoblins, orcs, trolls, savage humans and many other things. But whilst we were playing this campaign, myself and the dm were doing one on ones with bjorn for whilst this new group had left the mainland, Bjorn had rallied his troops and began to invade. He first deployed multiple spearheads of plague boats filled with zombies across the eastern coast, so whilst the local lord's were dealing with this outbreak Bjorns main force would strike deep into the heart of the mainland, capturing a major trade city renaming to R'lyeh (which the party would refer to as cthulhu city). He also captured some smaller towns and hamlets along the way. His war was long and bloody.
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Yep, everyone was. Everyone had their own schemes and dungeons and such, until they died. And then the player that beat the last of the original players decided to become the bbeg all over and rule the world.
To be honest, the further the story went, the less interesting it became. Basically everyone is evil and that they matter of factly told everyone that one of them was the BBEG, I knew what was going to happen... and it did. Instead of secretly pulling one player aside, they just bluntly told everyone... it was like hearing the Oprah thing. "You are the BBEG!" "You are the BBEG!" "YOU ARE THE BBEG! EVERYONE IS THE BBEG!"
Interesting, a world where everyone knows that they could possibly be a player character that the DM's were shaping the world of, now that's meta on a whole other level
If anyone wants, I'll try and set up a discord for it. Only issue is that I'm p sure this campaign had like 40 players and I doubt that can be replicated easily
Hey everyone, I'm a DM in a West March campaign that was inspired off of the one described in this video. We've had a lot of ups and downs but overall I think we've built something really special. Everyone puts their heart and souls into making their characters and we've had so many great stories that we'll carry with us for the rest of our lives. My own PC is a Tempest Cleric of Kord whose greatest achievement has not been the slaying of a mighty foe (though he does that), or saving innocent people (though he does that), but with his victory in his battle against alcoholism. We have great dms who put their all into creating personalized storylines for the players even though there are like two dozen of us. And the players actively shape the course of the world with their actions. And none of it would have been possible without this video. So thanks All Things DnD.
I once had players running a "good" and "evil" campaign in the same setting. At the final (good) campaign session I handed them their evil character sheets and told them that their evil party is trying to summon the bbeg. They had to roleplay both parties. It was super emotional and ended in TPK of both with the evil party dying and the last good character (fittingly the paladin) sacrificing himself to stop the summon. Never topped that one. Had a campaign with a classic party of their deity's chosen ones trying to stop the resurrection of the bbeg. Except he wasn't dead, he had ascended, killed another god and was impersonating them with his own chosen one. One of the players was his descendant out to summon him to terrorise again. There was a lot of flavour in this campaign and nobody suspected the character with amnesia (wiped so he couldn't accidentally reveal) even if he had some rather evil perks for a good character. The player knew and no other players suspected us. They were more suspicious of the evil player disguising as good who was 100% on their side. The tragedy is some players stopped being consistent a couple sessions before the reveal. We had a separate character sheet for the reveal ready to go. I even had plans for the secret evil player to decide if he would join the party, regain his old powers and fight the party or turn on both. :( Most campaigns that end are a simple thrilling fight with the bbeg and lots of looting.
yep that's the narrator and the winner at the end basically was julius caesar; defeated everyone else as the "hero" and then decided to take over the world
Made a warlock of the fiend pact but disguised as a fey pact through a second bargain. In the end he absorbed both his 'patrons' by making a glyph across a city effectively concentrating all the evil of the capital city into himself elevating himself to an archfiend as he summoned and devoured the other two. Next the group got access to the greater world, it opened up after this event (the group was convinced they'd made a mistake and the GM planned this from go. It actually was planned as I learned more about the nations leylines and made my spite fueled warlock with the intent on avenging my paladin the party had managed to murder. Eventually with access to the whole worlds lines of power it became necessary for me to expand my glyph using the party's travels to just subtly expand the influence instead of focused evil, slower but infinitely more subtle (taking a page out of Crowley's playbook.) When the party manages to restore the world, open all the gates between realms, which was great because it opened all the veins of magic across the world to the original glyph. Cue ascension from Archfiend to God-Tier Embodiment of Evil in the world.
I think you could call one of the characters I am running a BBEG - although not the destructive variant. Rather the corrupting one, seeking to lure the other PCs into following his example (which amusingly enough also includes a cleric of Helm - so drawing that one to the dark side is a particular treat.) As a result many of his deeds can be considered good on face value, but look deeper and the nefarious intent might become visible - or be brushed off as paranoia.
Currently playing in a session with five other players and myself. I mad a necromancer that my GM liked so much he has secretly made them the BBEG for the table. Only one other player has figured it out so far. There have been dozens of hints and clues dropped to the party about my character, but only one connected the dots, and chose to side with me. We are getting close to the end of our campaign, the party believes the BBEG is a Lich, but it's just a minion of my Necromancer, but even more twisted is the fact that said lich is my character's grandfather's resurrected corpse.
Lol, I'm currently playing a homebrew campaign with a group of 6 including myself and a seventh being the gm. It's set in a world at war between two great Nations. One on a big loans mass, the other a collection of islands ruled by whoever has 60% or more of the territory, and ruled by nobody of nobody had that 60%. Also there's some Nuetral islands and some in-world mountain range areas that hold unspeakable and unknowable terrors that can and will cripple anyone under lvl 15. Think the white walkers combined with the clickers from that escort mission called a video game mixed with terrasks, beholders, invisible weeping angels, and packs and packs of ravenous wolves. Anyways, I'm currently lvl 3 playing a multiclass rogue 2 (intending to become a rogue Mastermind) and sorcerer 1 (intending to keep it there). Ultimately, should my character live to lvl 20, I'll be a Rogue Mastermind 15, Gloom Ranger 4, Sorcerer 1. Anyways, before the game started, the gm had us write our backstories and asked if any of us wanted to join any guilds or pantheon's or cults that were detailed in the lore. I, being curious and wanting to have some fun, pm'd my gm about joining the secretive cult guild called the "Shadow Empire". Essentially the underhanded group for the large mainland country. He gave me no details and asked me a yes or no question. "Do you want to serve the Empire at all costs?" I was confused at the lack of info, but said yes. My gm then publicly told the group in discord that my character had started the end by using a Stellaris reference that nobody got. Thankfully, they've forgotten all about that by now. 😈 I was asked to leave a gap in my backstory of roughly 2 years in my childhood's infancy. I had already planned out for two possible gaps in both teen and infancy, and so said I was found in some dwarven abandoned mine by the mayor of the neutral dwarven territory's wife. My gm congratulated me on my idea and said laughing "you've just upgraded you're pawn to a rook! Good job!". So I'm apparently the secret but oh so obvious bbeg of our campaign that will either bring the war and the world to an end, or will bring peace to the two lands by uniting them to one banner. I honestly don't know, but am genuinely looking forward to the next 2 years in this campaign. Because my gm had run this campaign 3 times before, and nobody before me was even interested in the Shadow Empire. Did I mention my character is intentionally named Shaedo Horud Speaker and is a Tiefling with unblinking solid gold eyes, kagged horns, skin the color of dried blood, and did everything in my power to make it so obvious it could never be true that my character is going to end the world? Making it easy to call fowl play and stereotyping on any who accuse me, even if they're spot on? Or that my character doesn't even know any of this yet, and is an unknowing sleeper agent? Currently he's Chaotic Good with boughts of Chaotic Neutral and has never killed anything sentient to his knowledge though has come close a few times. Yeah, this is going to be fun.
In a short campaign of an entire monk party, my monk ended up being the BBEG after the rest of the party decided to side with the opposition when the tide turned against us while my monk refused to abandon his mission. I ended up knocking two players unconscious, one fled, and the battle ended in a 1v1 against the last standing PC and myself while being surrounded by a horde of enemies. After succumbing to the mirade of injuries that built up from fighting the entire party, I lost the final fight and was taken prisoner. A 'dad's ending to a campaign but had a rather epic conclusion.
being the secret BBEG is great, especially if you didnt start out that way. Had a game where my character had established themselves as a noble righteous Female paladin who had gotten married to the crown prince of one of the kingdoms, after several foiled assinations my NPC husband stepped down and handed his position off to another prince who was a player in our group. Later on though the fate of the deck of many things i had drawn the card to change my alignment and the new crown prince had drawn the betrayal card to turn one of his most trusted friends into an enemy, the DM agreed to make that myself. and so began the campaign to claim the kingdom that was rightfully mine. One of my favorite moments is when i murdered another player who refused to swear a magic oath of loyalty to myself (his character was quite suicidal so i killed him and threw his body into a pool of acid) he was later resurrected and pointed the finger at my character (our characters had been fueding for several sessions at that point) and using my trust as a noble and righteous paladin as a shield no one believed him.
I once played a really good traitor in an evil campaign where I decided to play the only good character and made a spymaster and made it my goal to build a network of spys and mercenaries and slowly overtime get the backing of the kingdoms gold with the sole purpose of stopping this group of evil warlords...I won by setting up one giant ambush that they survived but barely and then had my tribe of (secretly reformed and well payed gnolls) kill them in there sleep after they thought they had just killed the big good guy prince in battle. That Resurrection spell I bought sure was handy for fixing that.
Actually running a game right now where we have two secret BBEGs in an all evil party. Just those two are more in for themselves and are using the rest of the party to their own ends. The other four players are unaware of those two being super evil.
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Yes It was one of the greatest moments of my dnd life, I was helping the party making them stronger and when our group kept getting bigger I recruited 5 players to my side with promising them everything they ever wanted and since irl two of them were my oldest friends we plotted together. With a twist tho at the end of the game I had grown accustom to everyone in the party even the goodie goodie Demi god fighter paladin and the soul reaper (this was a home brew) so I gave them a choice join me to topple the gods and replace them or die. To the dm surprise I flipped the script a little and more players joined me and we made quick work of the others. I was a lich and I hated the gods. After that all the players started talking and freaking out like god dang we should have noticed. We all had a blast
Yes, I managed this by being a Fiendish One Pact warlock. He ended up leading the party by the nose. By the time we hit the end of the campaign, we were leading a coalition army against invading armies of ithillids, i had tricked the party into killing sworn enemy and toppling two kingdoms for me. Before the final fight between the armies, I stood before scrying glasses and other magical devices that projected me across Faerun and the coalition forces. I asked them to swear to fight by my side for all time for in this moment qe needed to be of one mind, one heart, and a million spearpoints. Everybody, including the other PCs, except our cleric did as well. At this point I will explain my plan. My warlock had formed his pact with a succubus with great ambitions, specifically to overthrow Asmodeus and reign over the Demons. My warlock wanted the power to crush the king of his original homeland before the king had secretly ordered his village slaughtered as an excuse to ambush some nearby nations before they could escape his expansionist ideals. His end goal as an LE warlock was to become a god himself and take over the devils and join forces with his succubus mistress to destroy everything. His pact contained a unique condition that every soul of an enemy he killed would go to the succubus and all soul sworn allies would be bound to him. You can see where this is headed.... So after the armies clash and the coalition stands victorious, the leaders of several nations and the party convene to begin discussing the celebration plans and talks of peace treaties come up. At this point, no is watching as the warlock summons his pact weapon, a very demonic looking spear, and ambushes the leaders. He kills them in a single blow that punches through all of them, shishkebabing every one of them. The party is aghast, granting me a surprise round that I use to one-shot our cleric with some 9th-level spell. The rest of the party can only watch as I laugh and thank them for not only fuldilling my lifelong vendetta, but going so far as to collapsd his kingdom, and now there was no one who could stop me or my demonic lover from ruling this world. They rush in, ganging up on me and crushing my torso to a pulp using the cleric's mace for poetic justice. Except it wasn't, since my soul sworn allies "share my fate" and immediately 90% of Faerun is dead, including my surviving party members. Their souls were sent to join me as my new srmy to fight my way to the top. The cleric was really pissed since his soul was damned to be the first cleric of my succubus. The only person who had an inkling of this was my GM, who was happy to see me pull the rug out from his epilogue and making it a good ending storywise, but morally dooming the Material plane.
I did actually play a game similar to this, it started out relatively normal with me, the DM and a friend, it went on for about 3 or 4 years with us having at least one session a week, by the end though we had 12 DMs, 3 “Super” DMs, and the “insanely super” DM, we started in medieval times and ended in a space stage the the point where entire galaxies were at war. We had roughly 60 players, I was essentially the BBEG playing the long game and around 15 or 16 players joined me, I had a galactic empire and 3 other players had galactic empires, hence the super DMs for them, while the other players were either with the other 3 empires or were basically a large pirate faction. Final battle lasted 5 sessions in a single week, each session about 8 hours long, it was glorious with literal billions of star ships firing at each other, boarding actions, all over a single planet that was a supper weapon left by the gods of the universe to allow whoever controlled it to rule the universe ( the Mcguffin). Whole story is insane and I may put it up somewhere, if I do I’ll edit this comment and leave a link. But it’s insanely long and no way will I ever be able to put everything that happened there. It also caused a spin off of several other games.
Well this is now on my bucket list, Heck this could be a book that twist the army of destruction the truce heck forget my bucket list of multi DM make this into a book!
Reminds me of a player in my first campaign. He played as a CE magus serving a devil-like diety named Loach. He secretly rose Loach's empire for him while traveling with the rest of the party (LG Paladin, LG Knight, and a CN druid). He rose legions of slave soldiers, corrupted the Elven homelands to be the base of operations for Loach's armies, and even magically and surgically created a super soldier that's going to become a major BBEG for the next campaign I plan on hosting. Kael Thas was his name (like WoW's Kael Thas), and he was one of my best players.
I was apart of a campaign once, playing a Stealth Archer (mix of rogue and ranger only using a bow) My DM and long time friend decided to give all the players a homebrew weapon. The weapons weren't anything gamebreaking but did have some side effects.My weapon, was a Bow named Raakir's Bow, this bow was forged from HellFire and enchanted with the soul of a demon. This was our mid-campaign boss. as we finished this dungeon and entered the boss room, I showed myself as the BBEG and the demon that they fought. I had a secondary character on standby for after this battle, and honestly this was an intense fight. took everyone but the Cleric down who used their one use homebrew tome to essentially slay Raakir and save everyone. Loved that campaign and everyone I played with.
So, you get to play a big Hunger Game were everyone get initial resources to be secretly the BBEG and each time someone dies, gets killed or "discovered" by the other players, they respawn as a fresh "Hero" to take down the other bosses (the resources they left behind get claimed by one of the remaining bosses probably). The Wizard cheated when he revealed the Battle Royale thingy and the last 3 bosses joined forces, but if he didnt, then only one original player would be left as a super mega BBEG using the resources already laid down by the other 39 original dead chararcters. A very interesting way to build up a decent BBEG for such a big amount of players and get the "heroes" to try and take them down.
There are good ways of doing this and having it feel fair for everyone. This is a great campaign idea. I was part of one where all the player had to do was show up. The dm basically decided everything before hand so the player never rolled for or did anything. Not to mention the basis of the story and the level we started at, we were so criminally under geared for this campaign while the bad guy player started with a magic weapon a belt of giant strength and a cloak of invisibility. By the end of it the dm said he was ending it here bc he figured everyone would be upset, then got butthurt when we actually were upset bc we realized nothing we did mattered. No matter what we did or how we did it everything was stacked against us to fail Bc that’s how he planned it.
Ohhhhh my god. This would be amazing to play in. So much logistical work to figure out and extreme levels of teamwork, but this concept is incredible..!
Recently a player in the campaign that we've been playing found a staff that instantly made him evil and obsessed with obtaining more power. Whatever caused that was so strong that it could not be resisted. We had no idea, and thought nothing of it, especially after he gave me the staff with no side effects on me. The bard used a detect evil spell while we were looking for an creature that casted invisibility while we were fighting it, and the now evil player was in general area where the creature was so we didn't think much of it. Then a bunch of flame skulls started sniping at us with fireballs, and the evil player (a paladin/cleric) raised a bunch of zombies from a pile of corpses that I had dumped over a railing in case we needed my Danse Macabre spell for whatever was going to attack us when we went downstairs (and I thought that was weird that he suddenly had that spell) and then stabbed the player who carried a macguffin sword that we needed to kill the BBEG. Thankfully the NPC that was with us one shotted him (another paladin) with a brutal smite. We barely got out of the situation alive, but we still have to escape the dungeon in order to regroup, due to the creature being invisible and was clearly a higher level than us due to using 1 6th level spell slot (unlikely to have more, but its possible), and the flame skulls spammed fireball (most of which ended up hitting me no matter where I hid, due to the positioning of allies and minions). We're currently leaving our evil player behind to die.
I remember once I did more damage to my party than the enemies, it was in a west marches campaign, we were in a dungeon, first of all, I burned some explosive with a firebolt, and we took a lot of damage but we shrugged it off, one encounter later I later firebolted another player in the back and crit, doing almost 30 damage in one hit and downing them instantly, but my character was a sorcerer so during the next short rest, she managed to convince the character who got hit to forgive her, (he still doesn’t like her to this day) Next up she lured one of the other characters into a pitfall trap with minor illusion, we usually check for traps but I thought it would be funny to make an illusion of a trident (the character who fell into the trap was obsessed with tridents), they didn’t take much damage but it was the singular hardest encounter of the day, she tries to climb out but fails (literally a 10 ft tall hole), I throw down some rope for her to hold but she throws up her trident to save it, rolls a natural 1 and stabs herself in the foot, my character climbs down and tries to help her pull it out, climbs down fine but rolls a nat 1 on the strength check, then the person trying to pull the trident boi up rolls a 3, my character ties the rope to her and goes up to try to help, rolls a 7, that pitfall trap took over an hour
Our group played a custom batch of pathfinder and i chose to be an anti-paladin. The dm took me aside and said hell itself chose me to thwart the plans of the good guys and i did exactly that as soon as the group entered hell. Every encounter was them fighting while i sat in the back doing basically nothing and somehow no one suspected a thing. Up until it came time to fight satan himself and i eventually sided with him killing almost everyone until i was fataly wounded by a random magic missile. Best game i ever played!
I actually managed to become the BBEG of the first campaign I ever played (or at least, the Final Boss of the campaign that served the BBEG), to the complete surprise and dismay of the party. It was an interesting experience, no lie.
I was a cleric but traded it all in to asmodeus for a mansion in hell with a balcony with a wonderfull view of the landscape of hell. While i sit in material luxory for betraying my teammates.
i've not watched it yet, but i have a similar story I decided that i wanted to try and turn my necromancer into a lich, the DM was fine with it, but nobody in the party knew, bit of back story, our whole party were street urchins, and 2 of us, were essentially "gatherers" getting food/anything us, and other urchins needed, but i did it differently, i killed anybody who gave my "family" a hard time, we decided my alignment was lawful evil (needs to be evil for becoming a lich) and this was the best way to have the party believe it's aaaalllllll okay my personality was extremely bland, he was sociopathic, no emotion, didn't flinch at what would bother most people, and wouldn't think twice about murdering somebody in cold blood for even upsetting a friend, the DM pretty much gave me plot armor, but because i kept pushing my luck, the DM had my character taken by a real lich... i came back in with a lawful good paladin, devoted to the ruler of his town, and would strictly obey any commands, even if this meant putting his party in danger... i made this character to be somebody my wizard would absolutely hate to cut out a large part of the story, my old wizard came out, a lot older, and stronger, and my paladin instantly went all out to take him down, nearly killed the whole party doing so, so my old character killed my new character because they were such polar opposites...
reminds me of the old fantasy shooter Hexen, where once you kill the BBEG you gain his power and is now on the watch against adventurers seeking that which you hold.
I love the idea of a campaign like this, but on a more intimate level, where there is one dm instead of multiple, and each pc is told they are the bbeg and can have access to a handful of minions, and between games gets to make moves, and any dead pc is rerolled as a nonbbeg, but each original pc gets to pick out locations and suggest ideas for their own dungeons and stuff, and they get added in to the world
It's usually the players that plot as a group. Old school games usually have an "us against the world" assumption. But that said... Currently in our campaign, we are working to lay claim to the first Danish foothold on the Moon, the very first small town we landed in.
Ah sounds amazing. I myself am in a west march... it’s amazing and always looking for more players. We are the seekers, tasked by the leaders of the ark (A floating city and our home) to travel to unknown island to find resources and allies to help rebuild this once great city. So far we have 32 character deaths, and the game has Been running for 5 months from what I heard. I lost 2 characters and retired 2, only been with group for 3 months myself
It was nothing like this, but in one session in our regular campaign I played my character's evil (well, not so much "evil" as "mentally twisted") twin sister Livi. This evil twin had kidnapped my character (Torxina) and infiltrated the party with the intent to subdue them all and sacrifice them to her god in front of Torxina to show her that her friends were weak and that Torxina should join her because "only blood matters, not your weakling friends". She was successful in subduing the first player's character, a paladin named Wulvtrium who was of the same faith as Torxina. (Hold Person + Inflict Wounds is a *nasty* combo... she downed him in one attack.) Unfortunately, the plan fell apart when the next character she tried to draw off hit her with an instant-KO poison that both the DM and I had forgotten about him having. In the end, the players loved the twist, and I got to play an evil character for a session. (Prior to this little episode I'd never played an evil character, and I had no intention of continuing to do so. This was just the DM giving me a chance to have some fun and throw the party for a loop. It led to some trust issues for a while in-game, but not for long because Torxina has always been trustworthy and good.) Once the party figured out what had happened and freed Torxina, she tried to talk to her sister and convince her to change, but it was no use. Torxina asked the rest of the group to leave and was going to kill her sister, but one of the other party members (a Tabaxi female sorcerer named Mellow) stopped her and told her about a place that could possibly rehabilitate Livi. So Livi was sent off and eventually got help for her mental issues and ended up being a relatively normal person again. This also led to Torxina's first failed romance attempt, as Mellow was Torxina's best friend whom she'd already been developing feelings for and this incident made those feelings that much stronger. It was doomed from the start because Mellow was already with someone else, and Torxina knew it, but she tried anyway. It ended up being a rather heartbreaking couple weeks for Torxina, finding out she had a sister, finding out that sister was evil, and being rejected by her love interest all right in a row. lol. Oh, and in the middle of all of this, they somehow managed to get thrown back 3,000 years in the past. But that's another story. lol.
Holy shit. That sounds like an amazing campaign. It's things like this that make me want to play again. And from the sounds of it, it's something that anyone could be part of even if they don't have the time to devote strictly each session.
I once in hs was reading a book next to a dnd group allowing me to hear everything and near the end i had been chatting with the dm snd we set it up that i was the bbge i didn't have much dnd exp so he simplified it a bunch but basically i was a ex adventurer who just wanted to bring my friends back and was draining the land to do so it ended up being that 1 attacked my instantly to which I used a instant kill spell i know think it was pwk like i said simplified it for me the rest negotiated with me and the cleric came up with a way involving using them as a battery draining their power to fuel the spell effectively resetting their characters to lvl 1 but with all the memories they have made
If I had been the GM at this table and one of my players had the ability to wish anything and wished for this realm to become his, I'd have stood up, taken the DM screen and set it down in front of him, rolled a character and sat back down.
As a split second read this ismt really all that funny but reading it over a second time immediatly becomes frikin hilarious
now I just want to see an endgame portal style scene where nobody accepts him as the leader of an entire plane of existence and decide to gang up on him
outstanding move. GG
Me if I was at the receiving end: "This is where the fun begins!"
They were doing it online though
This is an evil player character done right.
The wizard or the person who the story was around
@explodingtiger -- Both, my friend, both....
I agree with you on that and the story was incredible.
More like a story done right. This was actually an open ended story that the DM's came up with but they used a psychological trick to make everyone think there's one already determined BBEG.
In the end, the BBEG wasn't predetermined, but rather determined by whoever it was who got the chance to become the BBEG. The guy who would go on to win the campaign and therefore be given that choice.
The secret BBEG to the BBEGs that didn't know they were one of many BBEGs.
Wizard: I like this world, I think I'll keep it for myself.
Everyone: *shocked Pikachu face*
MoonLight goddamn was that a good twist.
wizard: you bask in the light of glory and call yourself evil while i lurk in the shadows plotting and waiting... a lot of waiting
Distressed rowlet
(it's like surprised pikachu)
This is some Vergil from DmC shit.
DM: well you just took a 90 degree turn... okay uhh you now rule over a burnt wasteland where all of your friends are dead and everyone in the world hates you for claiming the world as your own
“Dungeons can be for level 1s or level 10s”
*Panics in low HP*
I can't believe they made tabletop DnD into an immersive MMO where all the players had a hand in building the world....... I want to play so goddamn bad
Pretty fucking clever, right? It sounds brilliant
I need this in my life. I need people to play with!
@@keithshepard3 right????
join discord, alot of the favorite dnd, shadowrun. and other ttrpgs are played on discord
@@desertdragon8609 I mean, you're almost certainly probably right, but I have no idea how to get started looking for those sessions or how to find ones that fit my schedule.... please educate me
PC 1: You believed that I was a hero?! FOOL! I was the great evil all along!
PC 2: HAH! You?! Don’t speak nonsense! It was I who was pulling strings ALL. A. LONG.
Wizard PC: HO! HO! HO! HO! FOOLS!
Especially the wizard
Wizard reveals hes a gun
Wizard "what what"
PC 1 " you were a gun for a second"
Wizard " I'm not a gun"
PC 2 "shut your mouth you filthy gun"
@@estefanolivares4159 i know this reference
@@ecos889 Wizard pulls out gun
"I cast bullets"
@@estefanolivares4159 ua-cam.com/video/IHQr0HCIN2w/v-deo.html
“Waiter! Some Diplomacy fell into this D&D!”
“I’m so sorry sir. I’ll tell the DM right away and get it fixed for you.”
“No way; this is the best thing that could have happened! I was just letting you know so you can add it to the menu.”
Couldn't have said it better myself.
So basically, Saruman won the War of The Ring
This story is EPIC
I am glad I am not the only one who thought of an LOTR reference lol. I was thinking he could also be compared to Gandalf.
@@christopherpoet458 Indeed!
I just finished rewatching the movies and Thought of this too, but instead of saruman what if it was gandalf that was secretly the bbeg.q
YOU WERE EXPECTING THE BBEG TO BE THE HALF-ELF, BUT IT WAS ME, WIZARD!
Especially the Wizard
I feel like after the twist where literally everyone was evil it seems very undermined by the fact that there was an actual twist villain
KONO WIZARD DAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Guys I may be wrong but I think this is a jojo reference
Is that a jojo reference yes,
Heh, sounds like the GMs outsourced content generation to every of the starting players. "You're totes the evil guy, make some dungeons for us". That plus with such a broad pool of BBEGs they knew someone would survive long enough to have a climactic showdown at the end.
Both brilliant, and really Effing lazy.
@@WorldWalker128 I wouldn't necessarily say it is lazy. Imagine all the effort of trying to combine pieces of 40 different puzzles into one beautiful giant puzzle; it takes good finesse and many hours to meld everything together.
@@WorldWalker128 Work smart, not hard.
You're the bad guy, no you're the bad guy, no you're the bad guy. Wow some sense motive, bluff, or diplomacy checks could totally have made this a lot shorter if they went right. I love this adventure idea with such a large group.
@@WorldWalker128 efficiency is cleaver laziness
"The wizard would count has his original character" "all original characters were the big bbegs" every original was a bbeg especially the wizard
Except that's totally contradictory. The story writer stated that "All Original Characters were the BBEGs, NOT the replacements." Except the Wizard WAS a replacement character. So... the DMs lied to EVERYONE from the word go. They didn't even follow their own rules. Which... I don't know how to feel about that. Feels kinda bullshit to me. I kinda liked the concept of everyone being a BBEG and see who the last BBEG standing is or if they get wise and form alliances. Instead we got one player who was picked to be the ultimate winner from the word go. Again, not sure how to feel about that.
@@ForeverDegenerate He said that they counted him as his orginal character because he died so early on into the story
@@TooKorky Except, again, the GM told NOBODY. It would be different if everyone agreed to the Wizard being a BBEG. But they didn't. Everyone was told the same rule when the GM told them they were a BBEG, "If your character dies, you can come back, but you won't be a BBEG." So when it was revealed that EVERYONE was a BBEG, they also had THAT rule to go on to figure out who the true BBEGs were and, thus who the threats were. Because the GM broke that rule with the Wizard, the Wizard completely flew under the radar until the end. Which, as I stated above, is bullshit. Kinda ruins the game because that information was withheld. The moment it was revealed that all of the originals were BBEGs, the GM SHOULD have told them, "Oh yeah and the Wizard too." In my opinion, with a RPG Concept like this, if you get your ass killed fast and early, that's your ass. So I stand by my original statement that it seems to me like the GM was playing favorites and basically handed the Wizard's player the entire game on a silver platter. Which doesn't sit right with me.
@@ForeverDegenerate If your character dies, you can come back, but you won't be a BBEG. im pretty sure this wasnt stated but they eventually figured it out
@@ForeverDegenerate but that was the secret, man. Nobody found out that everybody else was bbeg too until later on. The fact that he died so early only means he could have been pm'd to tell him he'd still be bbeg, or maybe when he got his wish he learned the real truth about all other bbegs and put a master plan in motion.
That moment when we all remember that the Wizard although not an original character had been created so early that he was being treated as an original character..... and therefore counted as one of the secret BBEG.
I had a sorcerer/rogue who became the bbeg when he was the only character to see through the illusion that the npc paladin was actually a fallen angel in disguise.
Unable to convince the rest of the party, the sorcerer replaced the head of the local mafia with himself and slowly worked against the party to stop the fallen angel.
Eventually the mafia like guild had enough power they became the bbeg and my sorcerer with mitigate damage done by the party, doing his best to keep one step ahead of the fall angel's plot.
There were sessions I missed that allowed my character to do more in the background with his guild as the group had accepted if you missed a session you were hand waved absent from the party for some reason or another.
The final showdown with the "bbeg" was revealed when I was running late, and as I show up to the table my sorcerer is introduced to the party by being the one waiting for the party in the guild leader's office.
It was at this point that with the help of a zone of truth and all the evidence my sorcerer had gathered was to prove the npc paladin to be the true villain. Sure, my sorcerer was evil and was running the mob in the region, but he wasn't the villain raiding villages and enslaving peasants.
Even villains have standards.
What was the fallen angels end game?
I wouldn’t say that your character is evil, the correct term is akin to antihero. In a sense that he had good intentions IE breaking the fallen angels illusion over your character’s friends but the way he went about it leaned toward the more than questionable side of things.
I, Giorno Giovanna, have a dream.
Sorcerer: "he's evil!"
Everyone else: "... so are you."
Sorcerer: "ok yes, but I'm not a dick."
Everyone else: "... ... ... KILL THE DICK!"
I was playing an Evil Campaign. I chose to play a Lore Bard since they have expertice in Information Gathering. I proceeded to introduce myself as a very weak and humble bard with basic powers and skills to all my teamates. Got basic jobs from all the political factions as a walking advertisement - looking as innocent and brightly colored as possible, all while slowly gaining the intel I needed.
First I had my Assassin PC friend deliver letters to all the factions (enchanted so only the Recipient could read them), detailing the lairs & weaknesses of the other Evil PC's and all they had done - this went without a thought, as I had done this multiple times before to speak with my employers. I proceeded to release the string, and destroy the entire nation and all people in power while tieing myself to the people who would be next in line to replace them. Making myself the Noble HERO who saved everyone from the Horrible Villains!
The 2 who survived and got away said they would vow revenge. I just said, "Oh really? How are you going to find me let alone catch me when I have a Neclace of Nondetection, a Dimention Door Cloak, Boots of Elvenkind, & Every Illusory Spell in the Book. Not to mention, I have Every Guild in the palm of my hand! You come in this city again...be lucky you last the day." -Felix Mendax, the Happy Liar. Best Villain I ever created, and ever played.
*& I have not been trusted since...
100% worth it. The Long Game: if you're going to betray...make it count.
I've used that more a fair few times to win various games. Be trustworthy. Live up to your bargains happily. Take those short-term disadvantages. And then, when it's all on the line? That's when you plunge the knife in.
My strength has always been as a true neutral. I honestly would be as crappy a BBEG as I would a Paladin King.
Well a BBEG can be of any alignment really, despite what the E stands for. They just have to be the main opposing force to the party. For TN lets see.... An ex monk who views the forces of both good and evil, as well as law and chaos as what drives all ills in the world. He aims to eliminate these forces from the cosmos, leaving naught but stagnant neutrality. Not seeing, or not caring, that this would leave everyone (including himself) in the world basically soulless manikins with no personality. Could lead to an interesting situations where in people who would never work together would have to.
@@CelestiasSorrow *Yoink* imma just take that
@@CelestiasSorrow
As i stand here, upon my favorite hilltop, my thoughts always seem to drift towards the world about me.
I can't help but consider the evil and the good, both vying for control of the realm and these thoughts at once anger and please me. I know that seems a contradiction to most, but for most of my years, I've fought, both candidly and at the forefront to keep the balance. Not for personal gain as the hypocritical that is deemed, "good" or the malicious that are defined as, "evil" are wont to do but purely to keep the status quo. At a young age, watching as innocents become victims to laws has disgusted me as much as those whom use chaos and anarchy to further their agendas.
I feel neither pride nor shame for the acts I've committed to keep this balance, but rather satisfaction. Satisfaction that the day shall come where the light and the dark shall merge and then and only then, will there be tranquility.
Another possible TN boss could be a zealot Cleric of the Great Old One, Azathoth. All reality is stemmed from their dreams and should they awaken everything will cease to exist. Our villain would seek out their Gods awakening and bring the end times showing their God is the one above all others via omnicide.
The missions would be finding out who they are, what a Great Old One (GOO) even is, the specific GOO their villain worships, which way they plan on awakening them, and stopping it:
1. Stopping the music of other Outer Gods that are forced to play endlessly to calm Azathoth and keep them sleeping.
2. Finding fragments of Azathoth's true name and speaking it aloud. These fragments cause bouts of insanity when viewed. They are long and written in various languages scattered across different planes and moments across time, hidden in areas ranging from forbidden spell books to cave scrawlings, a child's nursery rhyme as an anagram to the meaning of abstractions "the perfect Sunset"; these fragments and where they're hidden are as fevered in degrees/locations as the dreams of anyone. Example fragment: YxhdfuehdjhfprjsptlhrgwxawjpixeododhdkvtalfKkdh'uduusudurttwkdjdlogrlppyfseudknfyahrltedjtjeujkX’shafhrazlazimiotfhot.
To make things fair, we should make the cleric immune to charm, suggestion and dominate like effects do to the freedom of knowing the reality of things and their insanity from dedicated worship such a powerful great old one. Consider even going so far as to make them immune to wish since they too now exist outside the boundaries of reality. Only way to stop them is murder or destruction of enough fragments so the name cannot be completed. Can make the plot twist be the PCs might need to forget all of their experiences even up to from now to childhood in order to keep the memories of the name from being stolen or use that as a bargaining chip.
TN greedy BBEG is an option:
You want everything in the world, you help people because you want EVERYONE to smile because of YOU, you push for technological advances because you want them and you want the gold that you can make off them, you enslave people because you want to own them, you brainwash people because you want to own every iota of their being. You are a hero who makes the world better and everyone happier so you aren't evil, but you're sure as hell not good, and the only law you follow is doing that which benefits you most at that point in time.
Amazing story, I wish there could be enough confidence with the DM to even become the BBEG of the campaign.
Me: I would like to join a D&D group but there aren't any near me :(
All Things DnD: Yo you want to hear about the ~50 player DnD session that many can only dream of?
Me: ... I will live my character through these stories!
You can find an online group for discord or the likes. My main group goes through discord. We have just as much fun if not more than the game ive played in person
What software do they use for maps and visual aids?
So they brilliantly told everyone they was the BBEG and gave them trooops and dungeons. You play cautiously and smartly to cause as much damage and minimize your casualties, not realizing everyone else at the table is also doing that. As more and more fall the heroes start to actually step up, the minions start to weaken and armies are absorbed by the survivors allowing one to actually trully become the BBEG.
The Wizard though, was actually gone early and had done his research as an original and let everyone work and plan their way. He made his one conspiracy theory and then in the end, did exactly what was needed, he turned the horde against his only threats to his reign then claimed it for himself. A truly evil villian was born.
This sounds like a dream campaign with multiple DMs and players mixing and switching and playing together. The fact that everyone stuck around and made it to the end even past level 10ish is incredible.
When you thought that the fact that there were three BBEGs was the plot twist
Wait, are you saying every character that was one of the original characters each player made was a BBEG to start with? THAT'S CRAZY
Yep. That's exactly what they were saying. Every single player thought that their original character was the BBEG and was unaware that they weren't alone.
this is literally the coolest thing ever i'd watch this as a show
*Sees thumbnail of elephant rider*
I’m sorry, is that Hannibal?
*Romans* why do I hear boss music?
wac
*No one expects the San Bernardino Pass crossing*
Nobody:
That one party member: “I’m the bad guy.”
The party: “... huh.”
In other words, every single one of the players was/is/could have been, the BBEG.
Friends and enemies, good and evil, all are either relative or irrelevant (or both).
The only thing that truly matters, is power and control, and that can only be gotten through winning.
Pretty dystopian underlying concept, but I guess it worked. Really good role playing and storytelling that relied on a psychological trick to fuel the entire plot and culminate in a choice at the end.
I played a possessed war forged for a long time with this one group. We entered a labyrinth involving traps, secret passages and hidden artifacts. Me and another character got separated from the party and entered what seemed to be a control room for the labyrinth. The way to use the panel was to place your hand on it and you’d become one with it. The DM texted me and said you are no longer you. Immediately a dark aura surrounded my character and the gnoll that was with me was killed by a spiked pit that I had opened up beneath him. The rest of the party was trying to contact me but I just took pity and told them “it’ll be over quick.” I had the walls of the labyrinth close on them squishing them like stepping on a bug with a boot. The DM looked at me with horror. “Well, if that’s not you then great job!”
I wish I could be a part of a campaign that epic. The closest I have ever come was to have my rogue paid off by the BBEG to spy on my group and eventually betray them at a super pivotal moment... or rather I tried to, rolled terrible, and instead he fled, got caught by the BBEG and was made an example of. Oh well, it was a lot of fun to play a double life while it lasted.
That should be made into a book series. I would totally read it.
This was my second time playing dnd. The story I was playing was split into multiple chapters. The party was Two rogues, one monk, a barbarian, a fighter, a wizard, a cleric, a paladin and myself a warlock. His name was Björn Grimmlok, for 3 years I played this character. At the end of the first year he had killed and sacrificed 4 party members and converted two to his lord cthulhu. In game after the first year the survivors all departed and went on to do there own thing, the dragon born paladin became leader of his tribe then soon a small archipelago, the cleric went back to her home called wolfsbane (she slowly fell to the corruption of cthulhu turning her into "bride of cthulhu"). The barbarian some how turned into a demi god of madness and conflict. And Bjorn Grimmlok began his march home to black isles, gathering mercenaries and necromancers under his banner. For years (in game) he collected his forces from his fortress the obsidian tower. Until he was ready to strike the mainland. (Second year in real life) We played a campaign set on the other side of the world this party was made up of a gunslinger (me), a rogue, a paladin, a wizard and cleric our mission was to gather troops to push back the army of darkness which was made up of hobgoblins, orcs, trolls, savage humans and many other things. But whilst we were playing this campaign, myself and the dm were doing one on ones with bjorn for whilst this new group had left the mainland, Bjorn had rallied his troops and began to invade. He first deployed multiple spearheads of plague boats filled with zombies across the eastern coast, so whilst the local lord's were dealing with this outbreak Bjorns main force would strike deep into the heart of the mainland, capturing a major trade city renaming to R'lyeh (which the party would refer to as cthulhu city). He also captured some smaller towns and hamlets along the way. His war was long and bloody.
Your DND content is often diverse. I enjoy that I don't always like your stories and that I can be surprised by them. Thank you for the video I look for to another when you can.
If I understood correctly, was everyone told they were the bbeg or the one was led to believe he was but in the end, someone else was?
Yep, everyone was. Everyone had their own schemes and dungeons and such, until they died. And then the player that beat the last of the original players decided to become the bbeg all over and rule the world.
@@Joe-sr6de Just imagine the work it takes to customise 40 players dungeons / minions... damn
To be honest, the further the story went, the less interesting it became. Basically everyone is evil and that they matter of factly told everyone that one of them was the BBEG, I knew what was going to happen... and it did.
Instead of secretly pulling one player aside, they just bluntly told everyone... it was like hearing the Oprah thing.
"You are the BBEG!"
"You are the BBEG!"
"YOU ARE THE BBEG! EVERYONE IS THE BBEG!"
@@redskin122004 i think the way it was run here sounded fun
@@redskin122004 It's a "works well, but only works once" kind of thing. You have to be unaware of the possibility for it to be fun in any way.
Damn, that sounds like an awesome campaign
Interesting, a world where everyone knows that they could possibly be a player character that the DM's were shaping the world of, now that's meta on a whole other level
sounds epic, oh I wish for a game like this with players abound
I would jump on this game in a heart beat
Me too!
If anyone wants, I'll try and set up a discord for it. Only issue is that I'm p sure this campaign had like 40 players and I doubt that can be replicated easily
@@littlemisspipebomb4723 If you set that up, count me in!! MysteriousFox#5534
Hey everyone, I'm a DM in a West March campaign that was inspired off of the one described in this video. We've had a lot of ups and downs but overall I think we've built something really special. Everyone puts their heart and souls into making their characters and we've had so many great stories that we'll carry with us for the rest of our lives. My own PC is a Tempest Cleric of Kord whose greatest achievement has not been the slaying of a mighty foe (though he does that), or saving innocent people (though he does that), but with his victory in his battle against alcoholism. We have great dms who put their all into creating personalized storylines for the players even though there are like two dozen of us. And the players actively shape the course of the world with their actions. And none of it would have been possible without this video. So thanks All Things DnD.
I once had players running a "good" and "evil" campaign in the same setting. At the final (good) campaign session I handed them their evil character sheets and told them that their evil party is trying to summon the bbeg. They had to roleplay both parties. It was super emotional and ended in TPK of both with the evil party dying and the last good character (fittingly the paladin) sacrificing himself to stop the summon. Never topped that one.
Had a campaign with a classic party of their deity's chosen ones trying to stop the resurrection of the bbeg. Except he wasn't dead, he had ascended, killed another god and was impersonating them with his own chosen one. One of the players was his descendant out to summon him to terrorise again. There was a lot of flavour in this campaign and nobody suspected the character with amnesia (wiped so he couldn't accidentally reveal) even if he had some rather evil perks for a good character. The player knew and no other players suspected us. They were more suspicious of the evil player disguising as good who was 100% on their side. The tragedy is some players stopped being consistent a couple sessions before the reveal. We had a separate character sheet for the reveal ready to go. I even had plans for the secret evil player to decide if he would join the party, regain his old powers and fight the party or turn on both. :(
Most campaigns that end are a simple thrilling fight with the bbeg and lots of looting.
Man I'm just amazed at how this game was played. It must be absolutely massive.
So the player became "Hannibal Barca"? Didn't see that one coming.
yep that's the narrator and the winner at the end basically was julius caesar; defeated everyone else as the "hero" and then decided to take over the world
ErikWarhammer not even close? Lol
@@zeldaandTwink ...Dose "Crossed the Alps with Elephants" not ring a bell?
Made a warlock of the fiend pact but disguised as a fey pact through a second bargain. In the end he absorbed both his 'patrons' by making a glyph across a city effectively concentrating all the evil of the capital city into himself elevating himself to an archfiend as he summoned and devoured the other two.
Next the group got access to the greater world, it opened up after this event (the group was convinced they'd made a mistake and the GM planned this from go. It actually was planned as I learned more about the nations leylines and made my spite fueled warlock with the intent on avenging my paladin the party had managed to murder. Eventually with access to the whole worlds lines of power it became necessary for me to expand my glyph using the party's travels to just subtly expand the influence instead of focused evil, slower but infinitely more subtle (taking a page out of Crowley's playbook.)
When the party manages to restore the world, open all the gates between realms, which was great because it opened all the veins of magic across the world to the original glyph. Cue ascension from Archfiend to God-Tier Embodiment of Evil in the world.
I think you could call one of the characters I am running a BBEG - although not the destructive variant. Rather the corrupting one, seeking to lure the other PCs into following his example (which amusingly enough also includes a cleric of Helm - so drawing that one to the dark side is a particular treat.) As a result many of his deeds can be considered good on face value, but look deeper and the nefarious intent might become visible - or be brushed off as paranoia.
Currently playing in a session with five other players and myself. I mad a necromancer that my GM liked so much he has secretly made them the BBEG for the table. Only one other player has figured it out so far. There have been dozens of hints and clues dropped to the party about my character, but only one connected the dots, and chose to side with me. We are getting close to the end of our campaign, the party believes the BBEG is a Lich, but it's just a minion of my Necromancer, but even more twisted is the fact that said lich is my character's grandfather's resurrected corpse.
Lol, I'm currently playing a homebrew campaign with a group of 6 including myself and a seventh being the gm. It's set in a world at war between two great Nations. One on a big loans mass, the other a collection of islands ruled by whoever has 60% or more of the territory, and ruled by nobody of nobody had that 60%. Also there's some Nuetral islands and some in-world mountain range areas that hold unspeakable and unknowable terrors that can and will cripple anyone under lvl 15. Think the white walkers combined with the clickers from that escort mission called a video game mixed with terrasks, beholders, invisible weeping angels, and packs and packs of ravenous wolves.
Anyways, I'm currently lvl 3 playing a multiclass rogue 2 (intending to become a rogue Mastermind) and sorcerer 1 (intending to keep it there). Ultimately, should my character live to lvl 20, I'll be a Rogue Mastermind 15, Gloom Ranger 4, Sorcerer 1.
Anyways, before the game started, the gm had us write our backstories and asked if any of us wanted to join any guilds or pantheon's or cults that were detailed in the lore. I, being curious and wanting to have some fun, pm'd my gm about joining the secretive cult guild called the "Shadow Empire". Essentially the underhanded group for the large mainland country. He gave me no details and asked me a yes or no question. "Do you want to serve the Empire at all costs?" I was confused at the lack of info, but said yes.
My gm then publicly told the group in discord that my character had started the end by using a Stellaris reference that nobody got. Thankfully, they've forgotten all about that by now. 😈
I was asked to leave a gap in my backstory of roughly 2 years in my childhood's infancy. I had already planned out for two possible gaps in both teen and infancy, and so said I was found in some dwarven abandoned mine by the mayor of the neutral dwarven territory's wife.
My gm congratulated me on my idea and said laughing "you've just upgraded you're pawn to a rook! Good job!".
So I'm apparently the secret but oh so obvious bbeg of our campaign that will either bring the war and the world to an end, or will bring peace to the two lands by uniting them to one banner.
I honestly don't know, but am genuinely looking forward to the next 2 years in this campaign. Because my gm had run this campaign 3 times before, and nobody before me was even interested in the Shadow Empire.
Did I mention my character is intentionally named Shaedo Horud Speaker and is a Tiefling with unblinking solid gold eyes, kagged horns, skin the color of dried blood, and did everything in my power to make it so obvious it could never be true that my character is going to end the world? Making it easy to call fowl play and stereotyping on any who accuse me, even if they're spot on?
Or that my character doesn't even know any of this yet, and is an unknowing sleeper agent? Currently he's Chaotic Good with boughts of Chaotic Neutral and has never killed anything sentient to his knowledge though has come close a few times.
Yeah, this is going to be fun.
That sounds utterly epic. That's the kind of game I want to play in/run someday. Have fun and may the dice be with you!
Go #BBEG
This is something I want to come back to later on and see how it has progressed.
Be sure to submit the story when it's finished. I'd love to hear how it plays out.
@@TheLytable yes I wanna hear that as well
In a short campaign of an entire monk party, my monk ended up being the BBEG after the rest of the party decided to side with the opposition when the tide turned against us while my monk refused to abandon his mission. I ended up knocking two players unconscious, one fled, and the battle ended in a 1v1 against the last standing PC and myself while being surrounded by a horde of enemies. After succumbing to the mirade of injuries that built up from fighting the entire party, I lost the final fight and was taken prisoner. A 'dad's ending to a campaign but had a rather epic conclusion.
being the secret BBEG is great, especially if you didnt start out that way. Had a game where my character had established themselves as a noble righteous Female paladin who had gotten married to the crown prince of one of the kingdoms, after several foiled assinations my NPC husband stepped down and handed his position off to another prince who was a player in our group. Later on though the fate of the deck of many things i had drawn the card to change my alignment and the new crown prince had drawn the betrayal card to turn one of his most trusted friends into an enemy, the DM agreed to make that myself. and so began the campaign to claim the kingdom that was rightfully mine.
One of my favorite moments is when i murdered another player who refused to swear a magic oath of loyalty to myself (his character was quite suicidal so i killed him and threw his body into a pool of acid) he was later resurrected and pointed the finger at my character (our characters had been fueding for several sessions at that point) and using my trust as a noble and righteous paladin as a shield no one believed him.
That’s freaking amazing! Did you manage to retake the kingdom?
Very good...
@@manwithabasicprofilepic sadly no, due to scheduling conflicts the campaign ended and we moved on to another one ;(
@@21warmasters That's disappointing. At least you managed to get away scott free when someone accused you, that was impressive.
@@manwithabasicprofilepic I was about to make a similar comment :)
Okay, holy shit. This has to be the most awesome D&D story I've ever heard. That must have been one HELL of a campaign !
PC : *Stabs Wizard*
Wizard : You are good, But im Crowley.
This was an absolute roller coaster from beginning to end.
That's awesome. I've had players swapped with simulacrum or an intellect devourer, but this idea is magical.
That was the single most incredible campaign I have ever heard of and if I had wish I would wish simply to be in a campaign this well thought out
Oh wow, I would love to have played this game, that would be awesome story and world
I once played a really good traitor in an evil campaign where I decided to play the only good character and made a spymaster and made it my goal to build a network of spys and mercenaries and slowly overtime get the backing of the kingdoms gold with the sole purpose of stopping this group of evil warlords...I won by setting up one giant ambush that they survived but barely and then had my tribe of (secretly reformed and well payed gnolls) kill them in there sleep after they thought they had just killed the big good guy prince in battle. That Resurrection spell I bought sure was handy for fixing that.
Actually running a game right now where we have two secret BBEGs in an all evil party. Just those two are more in for themselves and are using the rest of the party to their own ends. The other four players are unaware of those two being super evil.
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It... was... EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIK!!!!!
Yes It was one of the greatest moments of my dnd life, I was helping the party making them stronger and when our group kept getting bigger I recruited 5 players to my side with promising them everything they ever wanted and since irl two of them were my oldest friends we plotted together. With a twist tho at the end of the game I had grown accustom to everyone in the party even the goodie goodie Demi god fighter paladin and the soul reaper (this was a home brew) so I gave them a choice join me to topple the gods and replace them or die. To the dm surprise I flipped the script a little and more players joined me and we made quick work of the others. I was a lich and I hated the gods. After that all the players started talking and freaking out like god dang we should have noticed. We all had a blast
Yes, I managed this by being a Fiendish One Pact warlock. He ended up leading the party by the nose. By the time we hit the end of the campaign, we were leading a coalition army against invading armies of ithillids, i had tricked the party into killing sworn enemy and toppling two kingdoms for me.
Before the final fight between the armies, I stood before scrying glasses and other magical devices that projected me across Faerun and the coalition forces. I asked them to swear to fight by my side for all time for in this moment qe needed to be of one mind, one heart, and a million spearpoints. Everybody, including the other PCs, except our cleric did as well.
At this point I will explain my plan. My warlock had formed his pact with a succubus with great ambitions, specifically to overthrow Asmodeus and reign over the Demons. My warlock wanted the power to crush the king of his original homeland before the king had secretly ordered his village slaughtered as an excuse to ambush some nearby nations before they could escape his expansionist ideals. His end goal as an LE warlock was to become a god himself and take over the devils and join forces with his succubus mistress to destroy everything. His pact contained a unique condition that every soul of an enemy he killed would go to the succubus and all soul sworn allies would be bound to him. You can see where this is headed....
So after the armies clash and the coalition stands victorious, the leaders of several nations and the party convene to begin discussing the celebration plans and talks of peace treaties come up. At this point, no is watching as the warlock summons his pact weapon, a very demonic looking spear, and ambushes the leaders. He kills them in a single blow that punches through all of them, shishkebabing every one of them. The party is aghast, granting me a surprise round that I use to one-shot our cleric with some 9th-level spell. The rest of the party can only watch as I laugh and thank them for not only fuldilling my lifelong vendetta, but going so far as to collapsd his kingdom, and now there was no one who could stop me or my demonic lover from ruling this world. They rush in, ganging up on me and crushing my torso to a pulp using the cleric's mace for poetic justice.
Except it wasn't, since my soul sworn allies "share my fate" and immediately 90% of Faerun is dead, including my surviving party members. Their souls were sent to join me as my new srmy to fight my way to the top. The cleric was really pissed since his soul was damned to be the first cleric of my succubus. The only person who had an inkling of this was my GM, who was happy to see me pull the rug out from his epilogue and making it a good ending storywise, but morally dooming the Material plane.
Oh man, *do I* have a story to share regarding player BBEGs!
I did actually play a game similar to this, it started out relatively normal with me, the DM and a friend, it went on for about 3 or 4 years with us having at least one session a week, by the end though we had 12 DMs, 3 “Super” DMs, and the “insanely super” DM, we started in medieval times and ended in a space stage the the point where entire galaxies were at war. We had roughly 60 players, I was essentially the BBEG playing the long game and around 15 or 16 players joined me, I had a galactic empire and 3 other players had galactic empires, hence the super DMs for them, while the other players were either with the other 3 empires or were basically a large pirate faction. Final battle lasted 5 sessions in a single week, each session about 8 hours long, it was glorious with literal billions of star ships firing at each other, boarding actions, all over a single planet that was a supper weapon left by the gods of the universe to allow whoever controlled it to rule the universe ( the Mcguffin). Whole story is insane and I may put it up somewhere, if I do I’ll edit this comment and leave a link. But it’s insanely long and no way will I ever be able to put everything that happened there. It also caused a spin off of several other games.
Well this is now on my bucket list, Heck this could be a book that twist the army of destruction the truce heck forget my bucket list of multi DM make this into a book!
@The Gamegineers Sweet! Is it open for reading because I have time on my hands and a need for D&D twists!
@The GamegineersAh well, this story even though shortened was still interesting and awe inspiring have fun with more adventures like this!
Reminds me of a player in my first campaign. He played as a CE magus serving a devil-like diety named Loach. He secretly rose Loach's empire for him while traveling with the rest of the party (LG Paladin, LG Knight, and a CN druid). He rose legions of slave soldiers, corrupted the Elven homelands to be the base of operations for Loach's armies, and even magically and surgically created a super soldier that's going to become a major BBEG for the next campaign I plan on hosting. Kael Thas was his name (like WoW's Kael Thas), and he was one of my best players.
I can’t imagine the logistics a scenario like this would entail
The title of this video intrigued me a lot but my smile faded instantly when he said "I set up a bit of a min-maxed character"
Whoever planned this campaign and managed to keep the multi secret bbegs for all those months is a fucking hero.
I was apart of a campaign once, playing a Stealth Archer (mix of rogue and ranger only using a bow) My DM and long time friend decided to give all the players a homebrew weapon. The weapons weren't anything gamebreaking but did have some side effects.My weapon, was a Bow named Raakir's Bow, this bow was forged from HellFire and enchanted with the soul of a demon. This was our mid-campaign boss. as we finished this dungeon and entered the boss room, I showed myself as the BBEG and the demon that they fought. I had a secondary character on standby for after this battle, and honestly this was an intense fight. took everyone but the Cleric down who used their one use homebrew tome to essentially slay Raakir and save everyone. Loved that campaign and everyone I played with.
So, you get to play a big Hunger Game were everyone get initial resources to be secretly the BBEG and each time someone dies, gets killed or "discovered" by the other players, they respawn as a fresh "Hero" to take down the other bosses (the resources they left behind get claimed by one of the remaining bosses probably). The Wizard cheated when he revealed the Battle Royale thingy and the last 3 bosses joined forces, but if he didnt, then only one original player would be left as a super mega BBEG using the resources already laid down by the other 39 original dead chararcters. A very interesting way to build up a decent BBEG for such a big amount of players and get the "heroes" to try and take them down.
I remember this as the first one of your videos I ever saw. thanks for the content!
Nice. Since his wizard was treated as his of character he was also a bbeg. These stories are always super entertaining
"Hero, savior, conquerer, villain. You are all things, Revan, and yet you are nothing."
There are good ways of doing this and having it feel fair for everyone. This is a great campaign idea. I was part of one where all the player had to do was show up. The dm basically decided everything before hand so the player never rolled for or did anything. Not to mention the basis of the story and the level we started at, we were so criminally under geared for this campaign while the bad guy player started with a magic weapon a belt of giant strength and a cloak of invisibility. By the end of it the dm said he was ending it here bc he figured everyone would be upset, then got butthurt when we actually were upset bc we realized nothing we did mattered. No matter what we did or how we did it everything was stacked against us to fail Bc that’s how he planned it.
He secretly wanted vengeance for his early drop. That campaign sounds fucking amazing
Wow what a twist. Had me on the edge of my seat the entire video
This was wild! I love how the story ended and the behind the scenes how all the first gens were the secret BBEG
Ohhhhh my god. This would be amazing to play in. So much logistical work to figure out and extreme levels of teamwork, but this concept is incredible..!
Recently a player in the campaign that we've been playing found a staff that instantly made him evil and obsessed with obtaining more power. Whatever caused that was so strong that it could not be resisted. We had no idea, and thought nothing of it, especially after he gave me the staff with no side effects on me. The bard used a detect evil spell while we were looking for an creature that casted invisibility while we were fighting it, and the now evil player was in general area where the creature was so we didn't think much of it. Then a bunch of flame skulls started sniping at us with fireballs, and the evil player (a paladin/cleric) raised a bunch of zombies from a pile of corpses that I had dumped over a railing in case we needed my Danse Macabre spell for whatever was going to attack us when we went downstairs (and I thought that was weird that he suddenly had that spell) and then stabbed the player who carried a macguffin sword that we needed to kill the BBEG.
Thankfully the NPC that was with us one shotted him (another paladin) with a brutal smite. We barely got out of the situation alive, but we still have to escape the dungeon in order to regroup, due to the creature being invisible and was clearly a higher level than us due to using 1 6th level spell slot (unlikely to have more, but its possible), and the flame skulls spammed fireball (most of which ended up hitting me no matter where I hid, due to the positioning of allies and minions). We're currently leaving our evil player behind to die.
I remember once I did more damage to my party than the enemies, it was in a west marches campaign, we were in a dungeon, first of all, I burned some explosive with a firebolt, and we took a lot of damage but we shrugged it off, one encounter later I later firebolted another player in the back and crit, doing almost 30 damage in one hit and downing them instantly, but my character was a sorcerer so during the next short rest, she managed to convince the character who got hit to forgive her, (he still doesn’t like her to this day) Next up she lured one of the other characters into a pitfall trap with minor illusion, we usually check for traps but I thought it would be funny to make an illusion of a trident (the character who fell into the trap was obsessed with tridents), they didn’t take much damage but it was the singular hardest encounter of the day, she tries to climb out but fails (literally a 10 ft tall hole), I throw down some rope for her to hold but she throws up her trident to save it, rolls a natural 1 and stabs herself in the foot, my character climbs down and tries to help her pull it out, climbs down fine but rolls a nat 1 on the strength check, then the person trying to pull the trident boi up rolls a 3, my character ties the rope to her and goes up to try to help, rolls a 7, that pitfall trap took over an hour
I always love the art you use for your video's. It Just looks so good
Thanks! One does one's best
Can't put my finger on why exactly, but the picture for this video is incredibly evocative of menace and badassery...
Our group played a custom batch of pathfinder and i chose to be an anti-paladin. The dm took me aside and said hell itself chose me to thwart the plans of the good guys and i did exactly that as soon as the group entered hell. Every encounter was them fighting while i sat in the back doing basically nothing and somehow no one suspected a thing. Up until it came time to fight satan himself and i eventually sided with him killing almost everyone until i was fataly wounded by a random magic missile. Best game i ever played!
How I want to play like this at least once, man that sounded amazing
This is absolutely amazing! I bloody love this campaign!
This session was the DnD equivalent of a Mexican Standoff
In one d&d campaign, my revenent character turned out to be the former body of one of the BBEGs.
I actually managed to become the BBEG of the first campaign I ever played (or at least, the Final Boss of the campaign that served the BBEG), to the complete surprise and dismay of the party. It was an interesting experience, no lie.
This sounds like so much fun. What a creative way to do things.
This is litterally fucking insane. I mean seriously insane, I can't believe it. I may be a dnd newbie but I dig this beyond a shadow of a doubt
Wow. That's some seriously detailed DMing.
*I LOVE IT!* 👍
I was a cleric but traded it all in to asmodeus for a mansion in hell with a balcony with a wonderfull view of the landscape of hell. While i sit in material luxory for betraying my teammates.
That would make for an excellent campaign, just the feel and story to it made me wish to be a part of it. That's awesome
Well it seems someone lived long enough to become the villain.
Fucking hell this reminds me of Leylin from Warlock of the Magus World.
i've not watched it yet, but i have a similar story
I decided that i wanted to try and turn my necromancer into a lich, the DM was fine with it, but nobody in the party knew, bit of back story, our whole party were street urchins, and 2 of us, were essentially "gatherers" getting food/anything us, and other urchins needed, but i did it differently, i killed anybody who gave my "family" a hard time, we decided my alignment was lawful evil (needs to be evil for becoming a lich) and this was the best way to have the party believe it's aaaalllllll okay
my personality was extremely bland, he was sociopathic, no emotion, didn't flinch at what would bother most people, and wouldn't think twice about murdering somebody in cold blood for even upsetting a friend, the DM pretty much gave me plot armor, but because i kept pushing my luck, the DM had my character taken by a real lich...
i came back in with a lawful good paladin, devoted to the ruler of his town, and would strictly obey any commands, even if this meant putting his party in danger... i made this character to be somebody my wizard would absolutely hate
to cut out a large part of the story, my old wizard came out, a lot older, and stronger, and my paladin instantly went all out to take him down, nearly killed the whole party doing so, so my old character killed my new character because they were such polar opposites...
reminds me of the old fantasy shooter Hexen, where once you kill the BBEG you gain his power and is now on the watch against adventurers seeking that which you hold.
I love the idea of a campaign like this, but on a more intimate level, where there is one dm instead of multiple, and each pc is told they are the bbeg and can have access to a handful of minions, and between games gets to make moves, and any dead pc is rerolled as a nonbbeg, but each original pc gets to pick out locations and suggest ideas for their own dungeons and stuff, and they get added in to the world
It's usually the players that plot as a group. Old school games usually have an "us against the world" assumption. But that said... Currently in our campaign, we are working to lay claim to the first Danish foothold on the Moon, the very first small town we landed in.
Just reading the title reminded me of a one shot I have planned - where one of the players WAS gonna become the bbeg
That wizard thing with treating their wizard like the original character, the original players all being the big bad, aaah this is so clever!
Ah sounds amazing. I myself am in a west march... it’s amazing and always looking for more players. We are the seekers, tasked by the leaders of the ark (A floating city and our home) to travel to unknown island to find resources and allies to help rebuild this once great city.
So far we have 32 character deaths, and the game has Been running for 5 months from what I heard. I lost 2 characters and retired 2, only been with group for 3 months myself
It was nothing like this, but in one session in our regular campaign I played my character's evil (well, not so much "evil" as "mentally twisted") twin sister Livi. This evil twin had kidnapped my character (Torxina) and infiltrated the party with the intent to subdue them all and sacrifice them to her god in front of Torxina to show her that her friends were weak and that Torxina should join her because "only blood matters, not your weakling friends". She was successful in subduing the first player's character, a paladin named Wulvtrium who was of the same faith as Torxina. (Hold Person + Inflict Wounds is a *nasty* combo... she downed him in one attack.) Unfortunately, the plan fell apart when the next character she tried to draw off hit her with an instant-KO poison that both the DM and I had forgotten about him having. In the end, the players loved the twist, and I got to play an evil character for a session. (Prior to this little episode I'd never played an evil character, and I had no intention of continuing to do so. This was just the DM giving me a chance to have some fun and throw the party for a loop. It led to some trust issues for a while in-game, but not for long because Torxina has always been trustworthy and good.)
Once the party figured out what had happened and freed Torxina, she tried to talk to her sister and convince her to change, but it was no use. Torxina asked the rest of the group to leave and was going to kill her sister, but one of the other party members (a Tabaxi female sorcerer named Mellow) stopped her and told her about a place that could possibly rehabilitate Livi. So Livi was sent off and eventually got help for her mental issues and ended up being a relatively normal person again. This also led to Torxina's first failed romance attempt, as Mellow was Torxina's best friend whom she'd already been developing feelings for and this incident made those feelings that much stronger. It was doomed from the start because Mellow was already with someone else, and Torxina knew it, but she tried anyway. It ended up being a rather heartbreaking couple weeks for Torxina, finding out she had a sister, finding out that sister was evil, and being rejected by her love interest all right in a row. lol.
Oh, and in the middle of all of this, they somehow managed to get thrown back 3,000 years in the past. But that's another story. lol.
Holy shit. That sounds like an amazing campaign. It's things like this that make me want to play again. And from the sounds of it, it's something that anyone could be part of even if they don't have the time to devote strictly each session.
This is good... I've listened to this 5 times now!
That's a pretty good unintentional snake impression
Love how it took four months to think you were maybe a bbeg
This is how it's going with the campaign my friend is running.
I once in hs was reading a book next to a dnd group allowing me to hear everything and near the end i had been chatting with the dm snd we set it up that i was the bbge i didn't have much dnd exp so he simplified it a bunch but basically i was a ex adventurer who just wanted to bring my friends back and was draining the land to do so it ended up being that 1 attacked my instantly to which I used a instant kill spell i know think it was pwk like i said simplified it for me the rest negotiated with me and the cleric came up with a way involving using them as a battery draining their power to fuel the spell effectively resetting their characters to lvl 1 but with all the memories they have made