Dealership Coatings! What Are They? Are They Worth It....Or Garbage?
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2019
- Today, We put Simonize Glass Coat Through the Apex Detail Review Process! Glass Coat is offered at dealerships at exorbitant prices.Lets compare to a coating I enjoy. A Ceramic Coating (such as Opti-Coat Pro, C.Quartz, and Ceramic Pro) is a liquid polymer that is applied by hand to the exterior of a vehicle. The coating chemically bonds with the vehicle’s factory paint, creating a layer of protection. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months.
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Have you applied a coating...what was it?
Kamikaze
Igl. Kenzo. Quartz plus. Quartz
IGL Quartz
Poly varnish lol
alberto
Thank you Brian. This test is amazing. I believe we are going to start looking for a new product. Possibly Optimum products or Car pro. Your the best!!
Every time I hear anything mentioned about "Dealer Coatings", this line from the movie Fargo pops into my head... "Well... We've never done this before... But seeing as it's special circumstances and all, my manager says I can knock a hundred dollars off that TruCoat." LOL
@Storm photography one of the best movies. Yah
“Prowler needs a jump!”
I love that they cast William H. Macy as the car salesman. He played the part perfectly.
Lol so true.
Brian, Thank you so much for prepping me to care for my new car (on order from Germany). By the time it gets here in August, I will be ready to care for it like you take care of your customers.
I've had my 328xi for 7 years (bought it when it was 5 y.o.) and I practice what you teach on it. People are amazed at how great it looks for 12 y.o. paint and it has made me fall in love with my ride once again. It's easy to get complacent with your baby in the passage of time as it loses its luster, but it's easy to keep it like new with your instruction. I will, in all likelihood, step up to your product lines when my new baby comes in. My RS6 Avant will be spectacular thanks to you. Continued success, good friend.
Great info!! Nice job!!
Very interesting to see this video. Really nice idea to what see what a cheap dealer one does compared to a good quality one
My wife got her new Hyunday Tucson "Simonized" by the dealer back in 2014 when she bought it. I think she paid around $800ish for it. This was right about the time I started to get interested in detailing. I have no idea about the quality of the product other than that it did a decent job of locking in the dealer installed scratches on the black paint. We didn't know any better back then and it was just the way it was. We have since wised up, and the Tucson became our first major experiment in paint correction. We're hardly pros, but the car still looks better today than when my wife drove it off the lot five years ago.
u measn the dealer scratched ur car?
@@redsed1565 I have swirl marks all over my brand new car of the showroom floor with glasscoat applied over it, its ridiculous
@@fcscouto OMG thats a disgrace! I'd be asking for a new car!
@@redsed1565 If I didn't already wait months for this one, I would have. I"m taking it back next week, we'll see how that goes, I just want the swirl marks gone, i'll do the rest.
@@fcscouto One hell of a cut and polish for that car.
As always a great video ✊💎
I put two coats of the Glasscoat on my car 2 yrs ago and you couldn't even tell it had anything on it after a few weeks. They are selling you a "warranty" and probably counting on the majority of the customers to never file a claim.
We used Ming protection packages and enviroshield at our Holden dealer here in South Australia... I didn't mind the products and we always made sure they were applied correctly .
The biggest problem is knowing the customer is probably not going to look after their car properly or be misled by the salesperson who tells them it's "ok to use a car wash" or they don't need to use any car care products because it's protected.. I'm sure we've all heard these sorts of stories .
Our dealership closed in 2011 , six years before Holden closed its factory here . The factory was 45 minutes from our dealership and i swear sometimes you could smell the fresh paint on the car's.
I’m glad I caught this video I was about to get glasscoat tomorrow. Just saved myself 750$. Thanks
I had Expel put on the hood, fascia, exterior mirrors and trunk tail about four years ago. Has protected again scratching, glossy and cleaner looking. Not cheap, but well worth the protection it has given. Glad I didn't go for coatings.
Great demo. No surprise.
I have applied a thin coat of bacon grease on my car and I can tell you it shines 😎
My Great Dane would love your car. 😂😂😂
100vla The product name for that is called F11 Top Coat
I bet the water just beads off 😂 that’s a smart idea!!! Gonna try it today
Hahahahaahahaha !
Mmmmm Bacon!
Great video!!
Great video,I have always wondered about simoniz glasscoat.I know my dad used to offer it at his dealership years ago.I know there was alot of hype about it but I tried it and was very disappointed.
And that was assuming the dealer properly prepped before application. I’d be highly surprised if they did.
I can state with 99% certainty that the dealership skips all the prep procedures and goes straight to the coating. There is zero possibility that a dealer would spend the time to perform a correction. There is an equal chance that the dealer detailer would even know what paint correction is.
Too true
Thanks!
My neighbor here in Tennessee bought a 2019 Chevy pickup, and got the "lifetime" coating. I didnt have the heart to tell him he got the screwing of his lifetime
MrMrwilson11 lifetime yeah, i heard that a lot here in the UK also
😂🤣🤣🤣
Well after all it is a Chevy, probably won’t be on the road for very long so maybe the “lifetime” means the lifetime of the vehicle 😂
Hey Brian... Another great video Thanks. Prior to my current job I worked in Dealerships for 28 years. I could have written the ending of this video before watching. There are a few Dealers that do care about their customers, however only a few. Geez when I think of the $4.00 rolls of pinstripe tape and $20.00 body side molding rolls, along with the 10 minute installs. All for the low low price of $200 and $400.
You should do some videos on this!
@@danlc95 Thanks danlc95.. lets just say I have a face for radio..lol. seriously tho my family and friends all encourage me to do videos as well. I do have an awesome garage setup to test products and make videos however with my current job there are restrictions with accepting any money or free gifts.. Ya never know if I can make it work out I'll give it a shot..
Thank you for this vidio
Thanks for this informative video. Are hydrophobic properties always the tell tail sign that the coating is no longer working for your paint protection? What would the gloss meter have shown after the tests were performed?
Thanks for this. I will be taking delivery of a car soon. Dealer installed a coating without my knowledge so I need to remove it. Thanks for showing me it's probably a crap coating and I can remove it with a pretty none aggressive polish. I had planned to professional PPF and then ceramic coat it myself with Crystal Serum Light/EXO v4 on none filmed areas. Then HALO on the PPF. Thanks again.
Friend of mine was offered the Simonize coating on her Accord "for free." She agreed to it and the dealer told her "Okay we'll apply it and roll the car out!" They 'installed' it and out came the car... in 15 minutes! Amazed, I had her bring the car over the next week and the whole car sheeted water as if there was nothing on it. Doubt they even applied it. After seeing these results... maybe they did? Either way I think I made the right choice in polishing it off and applying some Cquartz.
This is why I keep clicking on your videos Brian, there is always great unbiased content. I actually said “Wow” out loud when you put the gloss meter on the Jade side the third time. I would be curious to see how dealer installed fabric protection stood up against 303 Stain Guard or something similar (inexpensive). Great job! 👊
I am still trying to figure out which is the dealer coating and the other. None of these comments seem to reflect that others know what this video concluded. Can someone let me know??????????
I detail on the side and work with CarPro and Gyeon coatings all the time, but as my legal part time job I work at a dealer in their detail department (Currently in college). We used to offer Xzilon as our "protection package" which did little to nothing for the paint. Most of the time it would be just sloppily thrown on, not like it mattered, and looked like junk after. Our new stuff is a sprayable "ceramic" that we apply wet to the car, to save time of course. It is even more of a joke than Xzilon, however the carpet sealant and vinyl conditioner seem to be ok...and I mean only ok at best. The best thing we do for the paint is dry deliveries with Aqua Glow from M&G, which actually lasts a few washes and beads up really well, yet when I bring my car in the bay to clean I always bring my own stuff, reload, hydrate, etc. I do have a local dealer here in Bethlehem, Pa that apparently sends cars out for Ceramic Pro gold packages for their warranty, but I'm not sure how true that could be. It really makes my side detailing feel great however, when I go from running a car through a old and destructive car wash to doing a 3 bucket was andfull correction at home.
I wont even let the dealer wash my car upon delivery. I am sure as heck not going to let them apply a coating.
I bought a demo truck with 5k miles on it "new", so basically only the dealer washed it and there are swirl marks and scratches all over it. Still got a great deal so I'm not mad about it, but obviously dealerships have no idea what they're doing, they just do what looks good short term.
not all dealerships are like that, just remember those detailers are under pressure to produce. u buy a car and they have to flip it in about a hour. who knows if that car was ever re cleaned after the 5k miles that it was rented to. a hour for a full detail with a 2 stage paint correction is almost impossible
Great video! How do you know when end of life? We just got simonizing on our new jeep? Also should they have been doing plastib=c handles and windows?Should u ever wax over coatings ie simozing?
I have zero confidence with regards to any detail related products/services that the dealerships try to push during paper signing process. When I took delivery of my brand new BMW 540i (G30), I TOLD them NO need to wash/wax/detail my new car during delivery process as they (dealerships) tend to use very “low-end” products and charge extremely “high-end” prices.....not interested in that PERIOD. After the delivery, I did my own FULL detailing project using ALL very high-end (enthusiast) products and equipment that does not even (come close) or equate to $800-$1200 that many dealerships are changing. I like to think that my own work is far far superior than the dealerships’ so-called detail department.
I just picked up my 2021 540i about 3 hours ago. The finance guy gave me the hard sell on the Simoniz GlassCoat, but I rejected it - as well as all of the other things he was pushing. I didn’t know enough about the product. After reading a few articles, I am glad I rejected it. I figured if they are pushing it, it is in their interest, not mine.
All I can say is I has 2 vehicles coated with it in 2012 on 2 brand new vehicles and it lasted right around 6-7 years. Kept both of them free from swirls, etching etc despite mainly using a good quality automatic wash especially in the winter. At best, for most of their lives they got 1, maybe 2 top coats per year. Considering I paid $500 per new vehicle it was money well spent considering they did the interior and exterior and it came with a 7-year warranty - if anything happened to the paint over that time, or a stain happened in the interior or the leather discolored, they would have owned it. In fact, I had to put it to the test. Some minor rust happened on the inside of the bottom of the tailgate lip and they took care of it. Depending on your dealership they reapply for free after 6 years for cars that were new when applied.
I Can't say if they have since cheapened the coatings or not or just not kept up with the changes but back then, ceramic coatings were largely unknown. According to the History Channel's Modern Marvels show, Simoniz was the 1st to invent them ua-cam.com/video/ji1GG4O9l1U/v-deo.html .
BigOldDog they were probably a higher concentration at that point.
Awesome video and thanks for shareing it with us Brian!
Very interesting to see this comparison. And your buddy is a great dealer at the dealership to even get you to test this out. It's a great customer service to really evaluate how their coatings they offering is when it comes to the performance from them. Even an one year coating like the Carpro Cquartz lite would be a good option to offer the customers with and of course reasonable priced for that. Something that even a little pricey but you get many applications out of it as a proffessional detailer or a dealership with a year or so longevity from it. Is the Polish Angel Viking Shield and not the Viking Coat. You know both how easy they are to apply and the looks from them is awesome. And you get a whole lot of vehicals coated with the Viking Shield. Just that's it's developed in Sweden and actually not long from where I live it must be awesome LOL. Jokeing aside if I where to have a business I would get a closer look at the cost it would be for me and what I could sell it for. And those numbers I think would be pretty good.
For full blown certified ceramic coatings a dealership could be able to be authorised to this should not be any problems with it or?
Tony Mattisson maybe I’m cynical but I don’t think any dealership really cares about how their coating stacks up to any other coating, so long as they can pocket as much money possible on every car sold. I honestly feel they’re more than happy to pull the wool over the eyes of every customer that walks through their doors, it’s not about customer service to them, but how to get the customer to serve them!
DAM Clean Detailing for the most part... you are right... but there are a few good owners who still care. (Very few)😁
Apex Detail haha figured i was being a bit too harsh, but glad to know there are a few good ones out there, I hope I run into one of them on my next car purchase!
This week I went to a Volvo dealership that required the purchase of Simoniz Glasscoat - that's right, a mandatory $1,500 dealer fee. It sounded absurd. I wouldn't pay it and didn't get the car. Your careful review just confirmed my suspicion. Thank you, well done!
I love my flex. Xc 3401. I want to try the one u have.
I have a new black Buick Enclave and did opt for the Simonize treatment at a cost of about $700.00. I do have a friend that has a detailing business and I asked him about it. He did tell me that what I have is not available to detailers and is only available to Dealerships. It did do a great job and is guaranteed for the Life of the car. My concern is how long it really does last. I go through car washs quite often but only get the lowest cost wash since I do have this treatment. I probably would not get this option again since I can get my car detailed once a year for $125.00.
I used to work for a major car corporation. Dealership F&I guys will hose you on any "snake oil", coating or other accessories to make a buck off you.
Bought the glass coat from the mazda dealer in butler pa on our brand new mazda and its a waste of money still got scratches and chips and now the dealer and warranty company won't back up the product. Waste of 900.00 dollars
I used a Chinese made ceramic coating on my wife’s brand new black suv and it works great, I also put it on the hood of my classic car and water doesn’t stay on hood. I was given it free from my Brother in law. Brand is 9H Nano. Make sure you buff it after 3-4 minutes or you will be sorry
Better than cilajet! I do installs for a few local dealerships and how they say that it lasts 5 years is beyond me!
I love how you somehow thought it a good idea to split it left/right on the door (miraculously your Jade got the side with a greater angle), vs top/bottom so they both have surfaces with higher angle and lower angle…. LOL. Then you wonder why the jade is beading and running off better… maybe cuz you put your product on the side that has a bigger angle, aka: easier to bead and run off….
I used to work at a dealership and they made me apply an armor all coating to new vehicles. Thing is we have to run it through the automatic wash, dry, then apply the coating. No prep work. They charged the customer $600+
Holy hell!!
That should be a felony!
Peter Sherwin What i found really interesting is, a couple of Armor All representatives came down to the dealership and spoke to us about the coating and how to apply and they never said anything about prepping the paint. They just said you run it through the wash and apply the coating.
I work at Porsche of Destin and we use a diamond ceramic,, not this stuff , our stuff is a high end sealant and it protects , ECP and most dealership will give you a 7 year warranty on it , so if you have any hard water spots or over spray anything with the paint they get to come back and get it fixed for free and apply the ceramics coating again . So not a bad deal ,
And did they properly prep the paint? Hand was, buff out scratches, remove iron, degrease whole car then apply the ceramic coating with 2 coating... easily a 6 hr job
dealer coating to me always meant a quick wax job and lightening of wallet .anything the finance guy tries to sell me is suspect.
Lol I've heard them called the " one thousand dollar hand polish "..
Agreed
Bingo!
I used Autoglym's Lifeshine as I was given it.
'Life' shine, more like laugh sh1te, it lasted a few months...a good sealant would outperform it.
Hello Apex Detail, Have you ever heard of a dealer offering and 3M coating on cars? i was offered that when i purchased my car 5 years ago. I need to fix some scratches and coat it, are you still using the one you displayed here? have you ever used the 3M one i spoke of?
Back in 2006, a dealer tried to upsell me a Meguiar's synthetic paint sealant for $500.
Thanks Apex Detail. What is the easiest way to remove this product? How do you remove it?
Nice comparison video! ! Saved me $20 from buying Glass Coat
Would love to see The Last Coat(TLC) in your future comparison!
I've got a bottle of TLC V2 that I had shipped over here to the UK. Sadly I bought it prematurely because the dealership I bought my 2020 Audi A6 Avant from absolutely wrecked the paint so they paid for a polish and I paid for a coating of Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra + Exo.
I am hoping to try it on my wife's car as soon as the protection she has on her car. Another UA-cam car detailer, Pan the Organizer, had very positive things to say about it.
I fell for the dealer sold Glass Coat on my most recent car as I hadn't gotten in to really understanding detailing at the time. My biggest issue with the whole dealer installed option regardless of the quality of the individual product is that (at least in my case) there was no prep whatsoever done. I mean I'm in the middle of signing my paperwork with the finance manager when he "sold" me the Glass Coat so I asked him "Is this something I need to schedule an appointment to have done" he was like "No we will do it right now while you are signing paperwork and waiting for the final prep to take the car". Even not knowing then what I know now that seemed like it was not enough time to do it right. So I know there was no real paint prep done. The car had been sitting on the dealer lot from Oct 2016 to May 2017 through wintry weather in DE so there were plenty of scratches on the paint from brooming and brushing snow off the car. All that crap got "locked" in by the Glass Coat. In the end a year after the purchase I took the car to a professional detailing shop to get a 2 step paint correction and 3 coats of CQuartz UK 3.0 done ended up paying $1800 for that so in the end I spent $2500 to have the car in essence coated twice. Based on my experience alone I would never opt for the dealer applied coating.
coolwrld302 ....this is why conducting research and/or seeking various opinions to get some general ideas prior signing that paperwork is essential to save serious money and hassles down the road!
What do you use on Leather Steering Wheels? I dont want to make mine greasy or sticky.
How long do you think i should let it cure before going outside with the car?
Have you ever gotten your hands on the Luxcare XT line that is being pushed by many dealers these days?
Just bought a new car about 2 months ago, they tried to sell my "diamond paint protection" for 1400 dollars, no idea what the hell it was but I declined and reached out to a pro detailing company about ceramic coatings and could just about get their gold (lifetime warranty) ceramic coating for the same price. I'm sure the dealer product was some crap like this if not even worse
Do you have any experience with Xzilon? The dealership is offering it for $1k Canadian, saying it comes with a 10 year warranty. Everyone is saying to go with a ceramic coating but I like the idea of doing this one time for 10 years instead of ceramic coating every 2 years. Ceramic here would run me around $800. Thoughts?
Awsome
I have applied hundreds of applicants of perma-plate and another brand I cannot remember. They are not ceramic coatings I tell people now that the best part of these coatings offered by perma-plate or comparable ones is that the warranty is the best part of them. The coatings won’t prevent a lot of different damages that occur to your paint but when in fact the clear coat fails, the warranty is worth a new paint job.
Brian, I have a local dealer to me that's always wanting this applied. They charge like $2200? If I'm not mistaken but in good faith I can't apply that shit. Now if they want to link the customer with me then I'll throw down some igl or something to take care of them. I don't see how these ceramic coatings are any better then the spray detailer I use
I’ll be stealing this video idea and making my own. A client of mines husband got a new 2020 Toyota Avalon and he got the dealership coating which is Simoniz, so time to make a video showing the difference and how my coating I would use (IGL ecocoat Quartz +) is better and lasts longer and protects better. Question I have is where can I get that gloss meter from?
You should do more of these Ceramic Coating tests 🔥
Its not a test, its a application comparison, a test would require extensive washing and real life environment
@@joehlavach8807 which is still ..... A test
The dealership I bought my brand new 2022 Honda Civic from put PermaPlate on it. I have bird dropping marks and water spot marks. When I took it back to the dealer to file a claim they said “we put it on your car but there’s no warranty for it!” So what they’re putting on there is a total lie! PermaPlate does their advertisement where they spray paint the hood and light it on fire and then use their product to wipe it off. So now I got to do it myself! If I would’ve known it was an inferior product I would’ve just stripped it off and put on a ceramic coating or something similar!
Well F, I just had two vehicles simoniz'd It comes with a lifetime warranty for my new truck and a 7yr warranty for the pre owned. We will see how the warranty works out, Probably I should research the best coating and have it redone when it needs to be done and not worry about the warranty??
Just bought a new car, finance girl told me I was getting a bargain: 1200 dollars for window tint and paint protection.... bought a 27 dollar wax and found a local business to tint windows for 350$. Don't fall for their BS.
Can you compare Jade to Gtechniq C5 coating?
I have no idea what this video concluded. Is the dealer coating better than the other?
Well Simonized product did better than I expected but expect two drive thru car washes and it will be a goner!
I never got Simoniz for my 20 year old Corolla, it was never in a garage through its entire life. We did get it for my wife's Matrix and it looks better than mine, but it is 4 years younger and it was in a garage for the first 6 years of its life. We never waxed or did anything to our cars other than washing them, specially in the winter (we live in PA) and detail it ourselves twice a year. So I don't think it has made that much difference. Funny thing is her upholstery looks a lot worse than mine and she allowed eating in the car much more than me.
Brian I have the ik foam 9 and it is leaking through the hose where it attaches the canister. I even put teflon tape around it and it keeps doing it. What do you recommend?
Genysmen runner there should be a seal you can replace. Some of those seals cannot hold up to harsh chemicals on a regular basis.
I work for dealership that selling diamond kote ceramic coating and they give 10 years warranty on there products and none there can't say how long that product will last on your vehicle and what warranty covers... It's driving me crazy cus I know there is why better products than that but they just stick to diamond kote that is not even in top 10 selling coating... Did you ever heard about them? Thanks...
Brian have you had a chance to play with the newer graphene coating yet?
Cjburn 27 I am on it as we speak.
8:39 is there a difference in the reading if you slide the meter across the panel or pick it up between each area reading?
Yeah, I noticed that move also.
The product Apex sells has a two year warranty, The Simonize Glass Coat product he's not authorized to apply or been trained to prep and and apply has a 7 year warranty and Lifetime warranty, with no deductible, whatever "Lifetime" means, when installed by an authorized company.
I'll just bet Brain's own products out perform both products here.
One doesn't have to pay the higher prices that auto dealerships charge, for any extras, as any authorized detailer can install it, and charge less than dealers do.
To ensure 100% removal of any ceramic coating requires abrasion of wet sanding, even compound may not remove it all, let alone a spray chemical.
Which coating do Toyota use?
I’ve used it , at least I applied it. Looks ok but nobody seems to know how long it lasts. The Stealership I worked at made a big deal about the product like it was a real coating and offer a warranty with it.
Super costly considering you can buy the product on eBay for like $20 US. I’ll say this. Applied it to my car and didn’t get 3 months out of it. Not complete garbage but it won’t last 4 months .
Yep you can by it at on ebay, provided it really is the produce, and even if it is it will not come with the non-deductible warranty.
Also, you are paying any company that applies the product, for all the prep work that's required before the product the product and the application of the product, as well as, the non-deductible warranty that comes with it. Even new cars have paint defects and require the prep work.
Now I know dealerships always charge more, but there are authorized detailers that charge less than auto dealerships.
Now here's the question: Do you think they are still worth it if they come with a 6-year warranty and will re-apply if it fails within that time? I was personally convinced by the warranty to repair any scratches, dings, stains or tears (interior) for 6 years. I live in Boston. It would be a miracle to not get scuffs or minor scratches; my last car (had for 10 years) kept getting mystery scratches that drove me mad; very light but never had this issue before moving here a year ago. Hoping the warranty is legit, and one way to find out. Like anyone reading this, I care for my car very well and will be sure to keep the warranty intact. Worst-case scenario I was swindled out of 900 bucks and it's coated for a couple years before I pay a solid body shop to polish the remnants off and apply a better coating I guess; live and learn.
Same here was it worth it
A lot of ceramic companies say it offers scratch protection. In my experience that's simply not true. Have you found any that do protect from scratches?
ChainsawChristmas they help fight scratching... by by no means impervious.
So the dealership's are ripping people of if they are charging more than $50 for that coating.
Ive been detailing for a dealership for some time now and everything is true, your instructed to wash the car, claybar if needed, dry and apply coating then ship the car out BEFORE the coating has ample time to cure regardless the weather outside. ive seen fresh ceramic coated cars sent out in the rain and snow. These coating have to cure or your defeating the whole purpose of the product. Everything is very time restricted, if i had 8 hours to do one car the RIGHT way then sure i would but thats just not ethical at a dealership. Most days i have to do minimum 5-10 new cars a day leaving no real time to do paint prep or exterior coating correctly. End of the day all your paying for is the warranty not the product.
I mentioned to you before that I had bought a 2017 corvette. How do I know if there's is a coating on it? The car does have some "love marks" on it and I want to completely correct the paint and coat it. I've bought Optimum Gloss Coat
Good choice. I have Opti gloss cost on my Honda Odyssey and three years later it's still holding strong and people ask me all of the time how my car continues to look amazing like new
It should be obvious when it gets wet if there is that type of protection on it. If there is... a light polish should do. (3D One)
What would be your recommendations for those of us who were not wise enough at the time and bought one of these “coatings” from the dealer? Mine is about 10 months old before I got addicted to detailing about 5 months ago. Polish it off and start over? Or top it with sealants?
Polish it off. It's probably almost gone at this point anyway. I doubt any dealer installed B.S. lasts more than 9-12 months.
@@SecretSauceyjuice mine lasted me 3 weeks LOL
A light polish should do. Mild abrasive. Kamikaze,Gtech, Carports, Jade...all easy to apply
I'm installing a new cast iron bath tub. Will it be easier ti keep clean, if I apply a ceramic coating?
Yes very much so. We coated ours with car pro and soap scum litterly wipes away with ease. Great for ceramic sinks as well. Good question
Maybe not the floor of the tub 😬
where do you get the yellow applicator pad that you used in this video?
Amazon. Type in micro Wade micro suede applicator, and just wrap them around any sponge or foam block
I have a client vehicle I’m working on right now removed old coating and re coated. Client very picky had it back to the dealership twice to fix because he wasn’t happy with it. Have a lot riding on my shoulders right now. Tall order
What kind of Coating did you apply?
Jade quartz premium 4 year
@@bm121084 nice! I hope it turns out great
I’m needing to remove Simoniz from my car! Do you think a combo like an orange cutting pad and m105 or carpro clear cut will get through the coating? Thankyou!
Why would you want to remove it?
@@rudyferrell I already have done this. Simoniz is crappy and I wanted to paint correct what was under the coating. The coated the car with awful looking paint. Looks better than ever now!
In Canada, Simoniz products are sold in Canadian Tire Store ( Like Walmart) and they are rated as a low quality product. I m surprise that a dealer use it!!!
probably going to see a simoniz coating offered in the future !!lmao!!!!!! ;-)-
The only place I have seen any trace of Simoniz products in the UK was at my nearby Costco, and it was a 3 pack of their Tire Shine.
been using just seal n shine 6$
Please please put glass coating Up against seal and shine from turtle wax. You could do a cheap versus expensive. Plus I want to see how turtle wax stands up to a professional ceramic coating. When you said how it feels when you apply it it sounds like you’re describing Adams 9H spray ceramic almost to the t
Adams spray ceramic is amazing stuff imo. Also technicians choice ceramic spray is great for much less.
Chewy1358 LoL I just put a coat of Adams ceramic spray on my car. Working on the second coat. Can’t do the whole car at once because of my back. Then I’m going to use Technicians choice ceramic detail spray as a booster like every 4 to 6 weeks.
@@richardvacanti4265 stay safe and don't hurt your back brother. I've heard nothing but great things about the Adams Ceramic spray.
Chewy1358 I also have used mothers cmx ceramic spray . I really like it. Very hydrophobic and a nice gloss.
Dealer protection is crap!!
they know how to fool and convince the poor average consumer and financially rape them stealerships are great bedazlers
Could anyone tell me if Simoniz Glasscoat can be removed from a car? A dealership just put Glasscoat on my brand new Rav 4, but they did no prep work whatsoever and my car is covered in swirl marks and minor scratches. When I called the Simoniz company to ask how to remove the botched coating they said that it would have to be "sanded off" and my car would need any entire paint job (!!!!!)
That's not true. Do a strip wash, then iron remover, polish it and apply another coating
Any dealer add ons in the name “protecting the car” only serve to line their pockets. How can you tell? set everything up to make the purchase and before signing tell them you refuse to pay for these extras and want them removed. If you walk away after they refuse to budge their desire to make the sale will win every time and they will “eat” that cost of it means you coming back to buy the car.
Has anyone used DPC shield? What’s your take on it?
Mrjozz011 I just used it this weekend and it’s very nice the shine I great and easy to use
Bought a new Honda last december, they were charging 1000 dollars to coat it. I coated itself for a hundred bucks and it's still hanging in there for almost a year.
And you can be sure that $1000.00 is probably $8 bottle of Turtle Wax
Jman G obviously you’ve made a wise decision to take care of coating project yourself. The reality is that these dealerships are notorious of using “low-end” detail products, BUT charge high-end price. Earlier this year, when I took delivery of my new vehicle (BMW)...I told the finance manager that I wasn’t in the mood to listen and/or spend a penny more (unless it’s FREE) on my new vehicle!
I have actually applied Simonize to over 100 vehicles and have put it on my own vehicles. It works well but has to be reaplied for to often. It definetly not worth the 800 we charge to apply it.
Do dealers actually honor the warranty to reapply it as it fails? Mine is warrantied for 6 years.
These are F&I office products which exist for the sole purpose of generating as much profit for as low a price possible
Great comparison! How does Jade measure up to CQuartz TiO2
dvinpeace pretty darn close... on the same level
@@apexdetail85 Thanks for the reply, I've only used Shield. And had a pretty good experience, but nothing to really compare it too. It was easy and nice finish and very different then all the waxes & Sealants I have ever used. Biggest difference I've noticed is how easy it is to clean!!! Wanted to try something else. How do these compare to Shield?
Here's a question. Why are dealers telling there customers that once their coating has been applied to the car that it can't have waxes or other sealants applied onto it.
David Morales yes I have had people tell me the same thing, that the dealer told them that now this is done you will never have to wax your car again!! Imo I bet a coat of “cleaner” wax will strip their coating off, because it’s not that durable!
@@akaredcrossbow - That is exactly why. A lot of the pedestrian, commonly available waxes are cleaner waxes. Which works against the coating.
@@danlc95 not really. The go to now adays are synthetic spray waxes. Even in the past there were plenty of non abrasive waxes. Let's be honest and just call it a gimmick, ploy or blatant lie like it is lol
@@davidmorales7371 - Turtle Wax Super Hard Shell, NuFinish, and Meguiar's Cleaner Wax have some degree of abrasives and cleaners in the formula, and I believe were the most widely used for many years.
I do remember hearing that spray waxes were approaching the same sales as the afore mentioned products, but never found any conclusive reports.
But yeah, I agree that a lot of this junk is snake oil. That doofus from Obsesssed was whining to Meguiar's about the "waxes" and conditioners in their washes getting into the "pores" of his coating... Really? Super duper coatings, but a pedestrian car wash can fuck it up?
I see all these comments trashing dealerships and feel compelled to make sure I step in and let everyone know that not all dealerships screw you. I run a Reconditioning Center that does all the detailing and Reconditioning for Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, Mazda and Nissan and I can tell you we do not use cheap stuff for our Coatings. We use Jade, System X, Surpass Coatings as well as P&S Inspiration depending on the customers wants and budget. Our coatings on New Cars alone is a 2 day process from Start to Finish. Used Cars can be as much as 4-5 days depending on paint correction levels required. Of course it might have something to do with pride in our work and the fact that we service high end dealerships and clients as opposed to servicing mid range domestic cars. If you want quality out of dealership applied coatings then dont go to these domestic and budget brand dealerships that care more about number of units moved then they do about the car and the ownership experience.
It is good to hear there are a few that truly care. Cheers!
Lol I’m applying glass coat in an hour to a large RV bought the bottles online eBay 2 bottle for 35$ I’m applying this because it’s so easy to use and RV is so big
Anyone remember Perma-Plate? lol
It sounds like a solution or result in mind before you start the review.
william j I have seen versions of this before. A less concentrated version of a pro coating. That’s all.
Our local dealer is charging $1795 for ceramic coat, inside and out....whatever that means. Offered to give me a few hundred bucks off. Still a hard pass.
I just picked up my 2020 Audi A6 Avant (wagon), and got a very hard sell for a dealer applied product. Obviously the Avant gave it away that I live in Europe - the UK.
I knew I was going to be having a ceramic coating put on prior to picking up my car, so it was quite humorous watching the salesman squirm when he initially offered me an Auto-Glym "Pro" product for £700. The more I said "No thank you" the lower the price dropped. I think he stopped at £350.
I'm having a polish and Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra plus two coats of Exo applied on Tuesday.