I have a theory... You know why they showing old videos, because owner of this channel is long gone from this channel and they are not playing money to him, that is case of 80% of old videos.. My theory..
For those wondering, when turning your tires are not firmly planted to the ground. When at an angle (when wheel is turned) to the direction of travel, the tire still "slips" across the pavement in the original direction of travel, to a degree. It is the friction from this that causes a car to turn. Modern tires are designed to take this into consideration when designed. As a side note, when slip angle becomes too extreme, traction is lost.
Oh joy someone explaining momentum and how anything in the world actually interacts with objects SUCH AS YOUR FEET. Now I’d think your shoes would start to ‘slip’ if full sprinting and then try to make a very hard turn either you topple or skid depending on how fast you gain traction.
All jokes aside, I'm just glad there are people out there R&Ding products like this for us consumers. You can't reinvent the wheel, but you sure as hell can try and make it as safe as humanly possible 👍 shout out to all my engineering home boys!
Tires deform while the car is turning. This effect is more common in racing since at higher speed much stronger forces affect the tire. And also that's why softer tires give car more grip, because they can deform more easily without loosing grip, which improves cornering. Hard tires on the other hand are more durable and better at handling higher maximum speed. I might be wrong, but that's how I understand this topic.
At 0:13, the tire begins to slide, and leaves markings on the rolling belt, but then by 0:18 they disappear because the tire picks the rubber back up...
literally what happens when you actually properly load a tire. This isn't during "uncomfortably fast" cornering, this is during conering faster than you thought your car could.
Yeah i agree. I often corner fast enough to break the tire's limits and cause it to slip slightly. You can feel the sidewall changing shape while you do that, since my tires have high sidewalls
Thing about all that slip angle is it helps so much with grip. I experienced this just a week ago driving with snow tires on the front and low profile tires on the back (front wheel drive). I usually expect understeer from this car. Even though the rear had a wider contact patch the front was more pliant and had deeper tread on the varying road surface and before I knew it I was facing backwards. Luckily I managed to right it and carry on with no damage or anyone seeing!
@@RJW14 Dry and probably about 2-4•c as it was a sunny cold morning. I imagine if it was about 18•c and dry the rear tires would have been nice and warm and the front would have been too soft and I would have understeered. It was quite a tight corner, one that most people probably go around at 30-40mph but I was doing a bit more than that.
Any video that gets picked up by tHe aLgOriThM automatically becomes a cesspool of idiots just trying to get top comment. Not much that can be done I’m afraid.
@@ThePhobophile exactly. I miss the times when people made original funny comments. Now it’s filled with Fortnite kids posting godawful nobody jokes and chasing likes
f1 on previous decades, team makes their tyre lasts the whole race. imagine the stress of the current f1 tyres holding it with intense downforce that makes it 3x the weight of the car.
actually Pirelli F1 tires are created to behave like that . also teams can make tires last a race distance , but there's a mandatory tire compound change
@theclivesinclair, Robert William Thompson of Stonehaven invented the pnumatic tyre which he patented in 1845, Thompsons tyre never made it into production due to costs but was further developed by John Dunlop. Thompson also invented the fountain pen, and the practice of detonating explosives by wire among many other things. The davidsons of Harley Davidson Motercycles were born a mere 40 miles south of Stonehaven just outside Aberlemno nr Brechin Angus. Just an interesting fact for you.
I am an engineer working at a car company - I had to unironically search this up to watch again because it's so interesting, after it got recommended to me the first time LOL
For dummies like me. Slip angle: difference between where the wheel is pointing and where the wheel is traveling. Factors are : force (car weight, traction, pretty much any force you attempt to put through the tire.) And tire stiffness (construction and pressure) Knowing that you can use it as an indicator as to how much load or work a tire is doing. Running large slip angles make a tire more forgiving to harsh setups, tracks and driver inputs. It dampens forces. But it also deforms the contact patch, which reduces grip on smooth surfaces. Can be used to adjust the cornering yaw angle of the car. There's definitely more. What am I forgetting?
@purpleGoAhead You need to inflate to what the door sticker says. Tires are consistent enough for the door sticker to be accurate with the stock wheel size and tire specs, and they design it so you have the maximum fuel economy, maximum tire life and maximum grip. If you aren't running that pressure you ARE putting EVERYONE at risk.
@meleman0872 thats what the guys at the tire shop tell me...but i changed from the oem tires to a much better tire and oem tires require 28 psi and my truck feels like im driving on ice at that psi and the tires wear excessively and now i get over 40k out of my tires without ever having to rotate(rear wheel drive w/ a tire thats rated for 40k)
Most people get recommended this video, but I actually found it the other day when I was learning about slip angle (four wheel drifting) in a sim racing game lol
Maybe you were like a sample for the algorithm, like "look this ordinary dude watched this old tire video, it must be hidden treasure" and then it got recommend to every one. Or just a thought I'm like 8.5/10 now
I'm a sim racer for over 20 years so I get this is recommended to me. I'm interested in slip angles, break traction points and so on. Apparently everyone is a sim racer. Good!
While playing Forza I would sometimes watch a replay with the camera pointed towards the wheels just to watch the sidewall flexing because I found it so interesting
@@suhvearly I think the original Motorsport had it and of course all of the ones that came after it. I'm almost certain Horizon would have kept it in the game
Not camber, toe. The camber doesn't appear to change at all. Camber basically just means that the chassis roll dials contact patch into the tyre and the conicalisation of a tyre creates the effect of a cone rolling around it's tip, generating a turning force towards the opposite side, whilst reducing the equivalent force generated on the opposite wheel.
@@ajwright5512 I mean yes, but also it is important to clarify that it only applies to the rear wheels, because on the front; When aligning or choosing your alignment, you set the static toe, meaning the toe° when the steering is at dead centre or 0°, and when the steering is centred you don't have any slip angle because slip angle requires lateral forces that you won't have unless you steer. But when you are at an steering point in which you generate a significant amount of lateral forces required to create slip angle, the toe that you set statically doesn't matter (except for the very few first degrees of steering rotation but the lateral forces aren't big enough to create slip angle yet), ackerman takes over and you will have (plus or minus a few degrees) the same toe regardless of what you set statically
@valereydyachuk If it's stock you want to use the pressure the manufacturer claims. If you've put some serious suspension mods on the car, or aftermarket wheels and tires, then you'll have to experiment a bit. Sidewall PSI is still a no go.
Fun, visual way to understand how tires actually work. They’re not just along for the ride - they’re what actually do the labor of pulling the car along, and the physics of it are bonkers. Most racing sims do not model the actual physics, but use statistical models from data collected in real life; it would be entirely too resource intensive to figure out tire physics in real time, and even tire makers may not have it all figured out. Video itself just shows a tire being pressed into a rolling road/dyno at speed and then turned. This is a tire that is powered - the axle is putting torque on the wheel and the tire is transferring that torque into the ground. When the wheel is turned, the tire wants to turn, and that turning force is deforming the whole face of the tire.
@cyberhendrix That's why I'm replacing all four ball joints on my I-beams. I still don't need it super-tight though because it's not designed to carve corners.
Дааа как быстро время утекает, я помню тот ещё ютуб который не был заполонен дерьмом, когда были короткие, интересные и смешные видео, а не то что сейчас постановочный шлак, дешёвые пранки, и море море ссанины...
Low profile tires are used because they deform less when cornering and thus slip sideways less. BUT they absorb less impacts than taller tires and so make the ride less comfortable and wear out the suspension more.
I felt my sidewall doing this when I understeered in my V6 Charger taking a corner faster than I should've back when I was in high school, didn't crash it but was still terrifying, I drove that thing to its limits, it's no wonder the engine blew up on me
@@bobross6677 definitely feel like that's what happened because I didn't let it warm up, I let the Mustang warm up and I don't drive it as hard, I get on it occasionally but usually shifting gears and hearing a V8 is enough for me
@valereydyachuk 300ci inline six running on gasoline. Behind that is an overdrive 4-speed manual gearbox. It's no miracle at all. 300s are known for lasting forever.
@@confus9d Fuck yes 4-speed in 2020. Modern cars are utter shite. Disposable pieces of clausterphobic plastic junk that won't last 10-15 years before they start falling apart around you. My next car purchase will be a Ford 4-door from the 1930s. Flathead V8 and 3-speed will remain. Hell I won't even put radial tires on the bitch. I will give it aircon and a nice radio though.
@@LSM_OPTiX Yuuuup. I want a car that will outlive gasoline itself, then outlive the next two fuels it gets converted to run on and the person driving it. And I'm not gonna find that on a new car lot. I figure, if it's already lasted 90 years and is still driveable it's gonna last another 90 years. So fuckit. Gonna pick me up some classy flathead-powered rolling Art Deco! I won't even mod it very much. Air con, an FM radio, seatbelts, a cupholder, a 12v socket to charge my phone/dashcam off of and *maybe* a more modern carb with auto choke that's easier to get rebuild kits for. If it wants to overheat I'll prolly put electric water pumps on it but if it stays cool as-is I won't mess with that. Won't even put radial tires on it. Coker sells bias tires in the size it calls for and tehy only want about $150 or so per tire, which is cheaper than what you pay per-tire for a modern car's tires!
@@LSM_OPTiX 20-25 thousand gets a turnkey ready-for-the-daily-drive example actually. All I'd have to do is start driving it. And that's probably what I'll do; as fun as a barn find resurrection would be I kinda want it driveable *now*.
Not funny I didn't laugh. Your joke is so bad I would have preferred the joke went over my head and you gave up re-telling me the joke. To be honest this is a horrid attempt at trying to get a laugh out of me. Not a chuckle, not a hehe, not even a subtle burst of air out of my esophagus. Science says before you laugh your brain preps your face muscles but I didn't even feel the slightest twitch. 0/10 this joke is so bad I cannot believe anyone legally allowed you to be creative at all. The amount of brain power you must have put into that joke has the potential to power every house on Earth. Get a personality and learn how to make jokes, read a book. I'm not saying this to be funny I genuinely mean it on how this is just bottom barrel embarrassment at comedy. You've single handedly killed humor and every comedic act on the planet. I'm so disappointed that society has failed as a whole in being able to teach you how to be funny. Honestly if I put in all my power and time to try and make your joke funny it would require Einstein himself to build a device to strap me into so I can be connected to the energy of a billion stars to do it, and even then all that joke would get from people is a subtle scuff. You're lucky I still have the slightest of empathy for you after telling that joke otherwise I would have committed every war crime in the book just to prevent you from attempting any humor ever again. We should put that joke in text books so future generations can be wary of becoming such an absolute comedic failure. Im disappointed, hurt, and outright offended that my precious time has been wasted in my brain understanding that joke. In the time that took I was planning on helping kids who have been orphaned, but because of that you've waisted my time explaining the obscene integrity of your terrible attempt at comedy. Now those kids are suffering without meals and there's nobody to blame but you. I hope you're happy with what you have done and I truly hope you can move on and learn from this piss poor attempt
For anyone wondering what’s happening: All cars tires when going around a corner will slip a tiny bit (a few percent). This video demonstrates that by having a treadmill constantly going one way, and a tire turning. The reason why the would even make a machine to study this slip is to develop new tire construction, because deformation like you see in the video helps the tire retain its static friction coefficient, rather than slip 2% and then go into kinetic friction (kinetic friction is the friction between a sliding thing and a surface, and it’s much lower than static friction). Tire slip in itself isn’t tire deformation, it’s the tire slipping/sliding a tiny amount when turning (fighting the cars intertia). Tire deformation is to make sure that once the car slides 2%, the sliding doesn’t get worse and worse very quickly.
I could be working on getting homework done for my drivers license, I could be sleeping cause I have to get up in 8 hours. But no I’m sitting here watching a tire roll around from 13 years ago
Generally a thicker sidewall means more slip angle when cornering, but other factors effect it like tyre pressure and sidewall stiffness, the biggest difference between an eco tyre compared to a sportier tyre apart from rubber compound is the stiffness of the sidewall. A stiffer sidewall won’t just limit slip angle but also tyre ‘roll over’ where a tyre can slip so much it wears the tyre edge and is nearly running on the sideway
Cheers. I made a upgrade to my car last year and want to share my findongs woth you. My goal was to have a more responding handling in my car. But it should be comfortable on the straights as well. So my rims have a width if 9.5inch The tire is 255 which is a slight stretch. The result is amazing. The initial steering response is almost immediate but falls flat when cornering in high speeds. The tire is the Fulda Sport Control 2 which is a soft tire with high grip and high comfort. So what I want to say is. The width of the rim has hige impact on the tire roll.
@philtripe just because your tire says 44psi that doesn't mean to fill them that high. if u read the tire it says for maximum payload capability then fill to that pressure. otherwise you are suppose to full the tires according to the vehicles recommendation,.
Because some vehicles have specific applications. Pickup trucks are designed to tow, haul and off road. Pickup trucks are designed to be as tough as they can possibly be. They are not designed to go around corners quickly. You wouldn't use a computer to cook dinner, would you? You wouldn't use a circular saw to open a letter, right? So why ask a pickup truck to do a sports car's job?
People 10 years ago: Let's help the others who couldn't see when it happened People now: Is that a meme? Is that a reference? Wow UA-cam recommendation.
Oh boy I’m so glad youtube made this video available for me to see 13 years later. Thanks algorithm, it’s not like original UA-cam recommended worked or anything.
YT in 2021: Looks like this video has marinated long enough
You. Who are you?
@@Mustafa-le4vz Oh Oh! Here comes the crash of parallel universes! :))
It’s on point for 2 a.m. viewers
I have a theory... You know why they showing old videos, because owner of this channel is long gone from this channel and they are not playing money to him, that is case of 80% of old videos.. My theory..
@@arefeshghi which one of em are you mentioning?
I always feel like I'm 2 months late in joining the recommend crew
I got recommended this 2 months ago and now again, even tho I already watched it
Same here bro.
Same
Yup
Same
13 years ago. UA-cam had good content. No yelling. Just the content. Nice and short.
GO
BACK
IN
TIME
then
Oh you're one of those people ...
UA-cam does have good content... But if u watch cringe channels then thats on you.
@@Boss-Crow the last one's are kinda good at times ngl 🥲
youtube was full of unfunny comedy back then, people were toxic, bots everywhere
For those wondering, when turning your tires are not firmly planted to the ground. When at an angle (when wheel is turned) to the direction of travel, the tire still "slips" across the pavement in the original direction of travel, to a degree. It is the friction from this that causes a car to turn.
Modern tires are designed to take this into consideration when designed.
As a side note, when slip angle becomes too extreme, traction is lost.
Thank you!
Every day is a school day.
Sidewall has a affect on traction too.
Thank you!
Oh joy someone explaining momentum and how anything in the world actually interacts with objects SUCH AS YOUR FEET. Now I’d think your shoes would start to ‘slip’ if full sprinting and then try to make a very hard turn either you topple or skid depending on how fast you gain traction.
All jokes aside, I'm just glad there are people out there R&Ding products like this for us consumers. You can't reinvent the wheel, but you sure as hell can try and make it as safe as humanly possible 👍 shout out to all my engineering home boys!
Hell yeah. R&D fellas, we appreciate
My friend's an engineer
did you really kill those guys at the stop light?
@@cesarxmbert my lawyer advised me to not speak on such matters. I plead the fifth...
Hell yeah, I damn sure appreciate it.
Finally... I'm waiting 16 years to get this video in recommended
well hello there fellow recommended in 2024
Real
Today here!
Remember when you could go to the comments for explanations from smart people telling you what the hell is happening?
Now it's just thousands of the same ol "YT recommended" line
So, what's exactly happened?
Tires deform while the car is turning. This effect is more common in racing since at higher speed much stronger forces affect the tire.
And also that's why softer tires give car more grip, because they can deform more easily without loosing grip, which improves cornering. Hard tires on the other hand are more durable and better at handling higher maximum speed. I might be wrong, but that's how I understand this topic.
@@PavltheRobot You've basically gotten the gist of it
Now its all just reminders of what year it currently is...
Me: Man, why is it so hard to kick out the rear
My absolutely massive tirewall: No idea bro
funny owl :)
Yes use dumpster truck wheel
I have the same problem, still don't know why
why does sidewall even matter??
@@doctorTF_2
The more sidewall, the more it can go gummy to one side. If it were a thin tire, it could only go a little bit.
would be interesting to record this with a thermal camera
this is something that goes recommended in 2031 then, give it a shot bro :)
Asking the right questions my guy lol
@@davidescobedo1317 Well a statement, but I got what you mean.
That's what she said.
ua-cam.com/video/zx_RWImmwQ0/v-deo.html
Damn, comments from 10 years ago
Time flies so fast
Ye
Yes
Yess
Yesss
@Arukk filter to newest and scroll to the bottom
Here before this gets reccomended to everyone in few days
Too late
Me as well.
13h earlier xD
Yeah
Same
13 years... the algorithm never fails
Sex
well i mean it IS an interesting video so it's going in the right direction
2 years later the algo is still at it. . .
16
Really, for me it was 16 years! I had to wait sooooo long.
At 0:13, the tire begins to slide, and leaves markings on the rolling belt, but then by 0:18 they disappear because the tire picks the rubber back up...
Ikr
It's not picking it back up, just scrubbing it
@The Dishonored nah, he was 10 years early
@@noncog1 what if those 10 years never passed so it's the same 10 years now im confused
@@juanito_727 they always will have already passed, be they past future or present. All time exists all the time
literally what happens when you actually properly load a tire. This isn't during "uncomfortably fast" cornering, this is during conering faster than you thought your car could.
Yeah i agree. I often corner fast enough to break the tire's limits and cause it to slip slightly. You can feel the sidewall changing shape while you do that, since my tires have high sidewalls
Thing about all that slip angle is it helps so much with grip. I experienced this just a week ago driving with snow tires on the front and low profile tires on the back (front wheel drive). I usually expect understeer from this car. Even though the rear had a wider contact patch the front was more pliant and had deeper tread on the varying road surface and before I knew it I was facing backwards. Luckily I managed to right it and carry on with no damage or anyone seeing!
@@finnice in what situation was that? Wet / snow / dry / temperature ?
@@RJW14 Dry and probably about 2-4•c as it was a sunny cold morning. I imagine if it was about 18•c and dry the rear tires would have been nice and warm and the front would have been too soft and I would have understeered.
It was quite a tight corner, one that most people probably go around at 30-40mph but I was doing a bit more than that.
LMFAO you lot are pretty dim aren't ya? Tires don't do this in real life
Who else got this video recommended after 16 years?😂😂😂
I forget to appreciate sometimes how good tire technology truly is. Imagine if you had steel or wood wheels at 80mph
They would just slide😂😂😂
I dont think you could get up to 80mph with steel/wood wheels
@@mrjpz yeah you could. Stopping is another story
@@finncon4399 if you were going in a straight line with no bumps or rocks in the road maybe but who knows it's not like either of us have tried
Saw a video with a Dodge with wooden wheels on yt unfortunately I can't find it.
wooow i was waiting for this... :Dthank you bairg82, now i can do a lot ofe things woth my formula...
You alive?
im here
Are you still active bro?
is u dead my bro
LOL your videos
UA-cam algorithm: "He will literally watch anything"
You damn right i will
I love that very detailed and thorough description the uploader put in the description of the video
What more could you want.
Tire
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So many garbage Redditor comments about the youtube algorithm. Just enjoy and discuss the tyre, you're not original. The tyre is good.
WhO ElSe gOt tHiS In tHeIr rEcOmMeNdEd? 😂😂😂
Any video that gets picked up by tHe aLgOriThM automatically becomes a cesspool of idiots just trying to get top comment. Not much that can be done I’m afraid.
@@fiddifussel7841 😡😂😡😂
@@ThePhobophile exactly. I miss the times when people made original funny comments. Now it’s filled with Fortnite kids posting godawful nobody jokes and chasing likes
The algorithm comments are so overused now. They are just trying to farm internet points
Why am i getting this video recommended 16 years later
Thanks algo. This is actually the best look at slip angle I have ever seen.
@paulleason lol. I know.
They don't teach us how to spell tire like that in American schools. :P
Hey do u still alive
@@halfeasy399 Haha! YES! 😂😂😂
@@belizetj Good to know!
Why would I be dead? 10 years? Lol
@@belizetj just checking you know
f1 on previous decades, team makes their tyre lasts the whole race. imagine the stress of the current f1 tyres holding it with intense downforce that makes it 3x the weight of the car.
The car is lightweight af though so 3x that is still not very much
@@MF175mp an F1 car can generate up to 3000Kg of downforce plus 750KG minimal weight , that's a lot .
actually Pirelli F1 tires are created to behave like that . also teams can make tires last a race distance , but there's a mandatory tire compound change
That was only in 2oo5
Try 5 times lol
@theclivesinclair, Robert William Thompson of Stonehaven invented the pnumatic tyre which he patented in 1845, Thompsons tyre never made it into production due to costs but was further developed by John Dunlop. Thompson also invented the fountain pen, and the practice of detonating explosives by wire among many other things. The davidsons of Harley Davidson Motercycles were born a mere 40 miles south of Stonehaven just outside Aberlemno nr Brechin Angus. Just an interesting fact for you.
Very interesting
yes
Woah
Hi we are from the future
Yo
@TestECull It is nice to have tight steering in your truck for the road, just in case you have to take any evasive action.
@yo lo annoying.
Tight steering? Well I mean that brings more danger to roads right???
@@LSM_OPTiX No. Read what it said. It means that it AVOIDS dangers because the vehicle won't lose traction nor spin around, in theory.
hey you mr owner of this 9 years old comment are you still alive?
@@prodlenzi “HeY yOu mR oWneR Of tHiS 9 YeAr oLd coMmEnt aRe yOu StiLl AliVe?” Bitch stfu lol
You can never get bored with using UA-cam, there's always something nice to watch 😂
HA. Can’t do that with your square wheels.
*Not with that attitude*
when you look from the front or rear, it's a rectangle.. close enough for rock and roll
@whistlindiesel would disagree
@@dez97candycl yes
Bro u made ur account 14 years ago, sick
Glad 13 years later I can finally see what my tire does when it’s drunk
Ok. I always knew there had to be a way to test tires scientifically. Have never seen this machine before.
Since 2008, how many people's life could have saved if UA-cam had recommended this earlier.
I wanna go back to 2006
@@well69 i see you remember the ford and firestone incidents
I am an engineer working at a car company - I had to unironically search this up to watch again because it's so interesting, after it got recommended to me the first time LOL
Lol
16 years later the algorithm has blessed me with this gem, ty YT
For dummies like me.
Slip angle: difference between where the wheel is pointing and where the wheel is traveling.
Factors are :
force (car weight, traction, pretty much any force you attempt to put through the tire.)
And tire stiffness (construction and pressure)
Knowing that you can use it as an indicator as to how much load or work a tire is doing.
Running large slip angles make a tire more forgiving to harsh setups, tracks and driver inputs. It dampens forces.
But it also deforms the contact patch, which reduces grip on smooth surfaces.
Can be used to adjust the cornering yaw angle of the car.
There's definitely more. What am I forgetting?
@purpleGoAhead You need to inflate to what the door sticker says. Tires are consistent enough for the door sticker to be accurate with the stock wheel size and tire specs, and they design it so you have the maximum fuel economy, maximum tire life and maximum grip. If you aren't running that pressure you ARE putting EVERYONE at risk.
First like and comment to your comment after 10 years .
2nd
Hi We are from the future
The 2nd comment I found that's is more than 1 day old.
It's good advice!
Check your tire pressure.
Yall got this recommended 3 years ago and FINALLY it recommends me it
'16 years ago' crew here to relieve the '13 years ago' crew 👷♂📺
Hello there
13 years ago crew got stranded and need to 16 years ago crew to come rescue them
02:22 AM and i'm watching a video from 2008 about how a tire deforms in a turn. I'm living my life to the max.
This video stood the test of time almost as good as that tire that slip angle.
@philtripe where are your tires wearing excessively? and i would try a pressure somewhere in between 28 and 44
hello! just wondering are you still active? i hope you're doing well!
Just want to tell you be prepared for 2020 have nice day.
@@autisticguitar it was 10 years not 100 years ago buddy
@@DatPeteBoi you know he could be dead in that span of 10 years time yeah?
@@autisticguitar yeah he is alive
This is so interesting!! Keeps all rubber on the ground!
Thanks YT recommended haha
Random recommend in 2024 but a welcome one, very nice
@meleman0872 thats what the guys at the tire shop tell me...but i changed from the oem tires to a much better tire and oem tires require 28 psi and my truck feels like im driving on ice at that psi and the tires wear excessively and now i get over 40k out of my tires without ever having to rotate(rear wheel drive w/ a tire thats rated for 40k)
Wow, that's a good point.
Hey, man from 10 years ago, how's life?
@@tanishqtuteja that's just 2011. Not so long ago as it might sound
Most people get recommended this video, but I actually found it the other day when I was learning about slip angle (four wheel drifting) in a sim racing game lol
Good man
Maybe you were like a sample for the algorithm, like "look this ordinary dude watched this old tire video, it must be hidden treasure" and then it got recommend to every one. Or just a thought I'm like 8.5/10 now
Good job man you are so special
ken block style four wheel drifting yeeyee
@@brendonhunt668 takumi
I'm a sim racer for over 20 years so I get this is recommended to me. I'm interested in slip angles, break traction points and so on. Apparently everyone is a sim racer. Good!
Sim Racer?
this is so relaxing
🤣
u mean SATISFYING.
Honestly just on loop.
Not to me. This is very dissatisfying to witness.
you psychopath
While playing Forza I would sometimes watch a replay with the camera pointed towards the wheels just to watch the sidewall flexing because I found it so interesting
damn didnt know forza had that. motorsport or horizon?
@@suhvearly I think the original Motorsport had it and of course all of the ones that came after it. I'm almost certain Horizon would have kept it in the game
It's more interesting to have that camera angle while you're actually racing.
16 years later recomended from thin air.
It took this video for me to fully understand how negative camber improves cornering grip.
I just had this lightbulb moment as well. Because of your comment
And also how imperfect is the Ackerman geometry designe => there will always be a slip angle
Not camber, toe. The camber doesn't appear to change at all.
Camber basically just means that the chassis roll dials contact patch into the tyre and the conicalisation of a tyre creates the effect of a cone rolling around it's tip, generating a turning force towards the opposite side, whilst reducing the equivalent force generated on the opposite wheel.
This shows why and how you get uneven tire wear from a bad alignment. >
@@ajwright5512 I mean yes, but also it is important to clarify that it only applies to the rear wheels, because on the front; When aligning or choosing your alignment, you set the static toe, meaning the toe° when the steering is at dead centre or 0°, and when the steering is centred you don't have any slip angle because slip angle requires lateral forces that you won't have unless you steer. But when you are at an steering point in which you generate a significant amount of lateral forces required to create slip angle, the toe that you set statically doesn't matter (except for the very few first degrees of steering rotation but the lateral forces aren't big enough to create slip angle yet), ackerman takes over and you will have (plus or minus a few degrees) the same toe regardless of what you set statically
@valereydyachuk If it's stock you want to use the pressure the manufacturer claims. If you've put some serious suspension mods on the car, or aftermarket wheels and tires, then you'll have to experiment a bit. Sidewall PSI is still a no go.
hi bro
When u commented this, i was 10 years old. Crazy
@@leventislami5104 so that means I was 8 when he commented this
Fun, visual way to understand how tires actually work. They’re not just along for the ride - they’re what actually do the labor of pulling the car along, and the physics of it are bonkers. Most racing sims do not model the actual physics, but use statistical models from data collected in real life; it would be entirely too resource intensive to figure out tire physics in real time, and even tire makers may not have it all figured out.
Video itself just shows a tire being pressed into a rolling road/dyno at speed and then turned. This is a tire that is powered - the axle is putting torque on the wheel and the tire is transferring that torque into the ground. When the wheel is turned, the tire wants to turn, and that turning force is deforming the whole face of the tire.
Again, thank you for this recommendation UA-cam. Exactly what I wanted to watch at 18:48 on a Friday 👍
Ah, the anxiety simulator
this video 13 years ago..thanks you tube recommend this
@cyberhendrix That's why I'm replacing all four ball joints on my I-beams. I still don't need it super-tight though because it's not designed to carve corners.
9 years ago damm
@@captainpotato6584 lol
How are your ball joints holding up?
@@gjergjcamaj5770 LOL probably not great.
Took 13 years for UA-cam to recommend me this quality content.
Finally! I'm here.... 16 years later...
@Aresholewins this is a bridgestone f1 tyre, testing the big loads of formula 1 car
Waa ru alive
it depends
Ten years late, but thank you.
Tire*
@@SrIgort
Hey, are you from the United States?
"I always feel like I'm 2 months late joing the recommended crew" well I guess that makes me 4 months later than the two month later guy
Haha and I’m 4 months and one day later
Felt
4 mths and 4 wks....
That makes me 6 Months later 😂
Same I'm two months later than you lol
13 years and this video is still available
UA-cam is a legend!!
Hamilton: " BONO MY TYRES ARE GONE!"
I can’t keep the car behind!
Дааа как быстро время утекает, я помню тот ещё ютуб который не был заполонен дерьмом, когда были короткие, интересные и смешные видео, а не то что сейчас постановочный шлак, дешёвые пранки, и море море ссанины...
this is why tire shops tell you they cant patch the sidewall
This was the inspiration for DAS on the Mercedes w11 lmao
Life is good when this video was first published
Low profile tires are used because they deform less when cornering and thus slip sideways less. BUT they absorb less impacts than taller tires and so make the ride less comfortable and wear out the suspension more.
i just got this on recomended after 13 years,a video that is older than me :)
How old are you anyway?
I felt my sidewall doing this when I understeered in my V6 Charger taking a corner faster than I should've back when I was in high school, didn't crash it but was still terrifying, I drove that thing to its limits, it's no wonder the engine blew up on me
A lesson to warm up ur engine before using it 👍
@@bobross6677 definitely feel like that's what happened because I didn't let it warm up, I let the Mustang warm up and I don't drive it as hard, I get on it occasionally but usually shifting gears and hearing a V8 is enough for me
Don't all v6 chargers come with a pretty sundress too?👗💋💄👠👜
@@markk3652 🤨 you projecting or smthing
@@ebincd2362 he's jealous he never got to drive a 6cyl muscle car properly
20 years later, this shit shows up in my recommended
@valereydyachuk 300ci inline six running on gasoline. Behind that is an overdrive 4-speed manual gearbox.
It's no miracle at all. 300s are known for lasting forever.
4 speed in 2020
no
@@confus9d Fuck yes 4-speed in 2020. Modern cars are utter shite. Disposable pieces of clausterphobic plastic junk that won't last 10-15 years before they start falling apart around you.
My next car purchase will be a Ford 4-door from the 1930s. Flathead V8 and 3-speed will remain. Hell I won't even put radial tires on the bitch. I will give it aircon and a nice radio though.
@@LSM_OPTiX Yuuuup. I want a car that will outlive gasoline itself, then outlive the next two fuels it gets converted to run on and the person driving it. And I'm not gonna find that on a new car lot.
I figure, if it's already lasted 90 years and is still driveable it's gonna last another 90 years. So fuckit. Gonna pick me up some classy flathead-powered rolling Art Deco! I won't even mod it very much. Air con, an FM radio, seatbelts, a cupholder, a 12v socket to charge my phone/dashcam off of and *maybe* a more modern carb with auto choke that's easier to get rebuild kits for. If it wants to overheat I'll prolly put electric water pumps on it but if it stays cool as-is I won't mess with that.
Won't even put radial tires on it. Coker sells bias tires in the size it calls for and tehy only want about $150 or so per tire, which is cheaper than what you pay per-tire for a modern car's tires!
@@LSM_OPTiX 20-25 thousand gets a turnkey ready-for-the-daily-drive example actually. All I'd have to do is start driving it. And that's probably what I'll do; as fun as a barn find resurrection would be I kinda want it driveable *now*.
Crazy how fast u answer on ur 9 year old comment😂😂😂
I like the part where it exploded.
Not funny I didn't laugh. Your joke is so bad I would have preferred the joke went over my head and you gave up re-telling me the joke. To be honest this is a horrid attempt at trying to get a laugh out of me. Not a chuckle, not a hehe, not even a subtle burst of air out of my esophagus. Science says before you laugh your brain preps your face muscles but I didn't even feel the slightest twitch. 0/10 this joke is so bad I cannot believe anyone legally allowed you to be creative at all. The amount of brain power you must have put into that joke has the potential to power every house on Earth. Get a personality and learn how to make jokes, read a book. I'm not saying this to be funny I genuinely mean it on how this is just bottom barrel embarrassment at comedy. You've single handedly killed humor and every comedic act on the planet. I'm so disappointed that society has failed as a whole in being able to teach you how to be funny. Honestly if I put in all my power and time to try and make your joke funny it would require Einstein himself to build a device to strap me into so I can be connected to the energy of a billion stars to do it, and even then all that joke would get from people is a subtle scuff. You're lucky I still have the slightest of empathy for you after telling that joke otherwise I would have committed every war crime in the book just to prevent you from attempting any humor ever again. We should put that joke in text books so future generations can be wary of becoming such an absolute comedic failure. Im disappointed, hurt, and outright offended that my precious time has been wasted in my brain understanding that joke. In the time that took I was planning on helping kids who have been orphaned, but because of that you've waisted my time explaining the obscene integrity of your terrible attempt at comedy. Now those kids are suffering without meals and there's nobody to blame but you. I hope you're happy with what you have done and I truly hope you can move on and learn from this piss poor attempt
@@noxious7061 imagine roasting some comment from 7 years ago - you deserve a like
@@fabipiano5249 fax
@@noxious7061 sucks
@@noxious7061 shit roast didn't even bother reading the en-tire thing.
For anyone wondering what’s happening:
All cars tires when going around a corner will slip a tiny bit (a few percent). This video demonstrates that by having a treadmill constantly going one way, and a tire turning.
The reason why the would even make a machine to study this slip is to develop new tire construction, because deformation like you see in the video helps the tire retain its static friction coefficient, rather than slip 2% and then go into kinetic friction (kinetic friction is the friction between a sliding thing and a surface, and it’s much lower than static friction).
Tire slip in itself isn’t tire deformation, it’s the tire slipping/sliding a tiny amount when turning (fighting the cars intertia). Tire deformation is to make sure that once the car slides 2%, the sliding doesn’t get worse and worse very quickly.
POV:
You can't find comments from 10 years ago.
Two comments below you. 11 years ago.
Laughs in "sort by"
Fernando Alonso: yea I’m gonna pretend like I didn’t just see that
The reference is from his driving technique right?
@@naufalthirafi3876 correct
Michelin : i fear no man, but that man (fernando), it scares me
@@Jack-cz5su i wonder how he can nurse the pirelli tyre with that technique
I watched this video everyday since it was uploaded, for the past 3 years I don’t know why UA-cam finally decided to recommend this to everybody. /s
UA-cam at 3 Am
Hey, wanna see a Tyre spinning 10 years ago
I could be doing homework. Or gaming. Or literally anything else. But no Im sitting here watching a tire roll around from 13 years ago
I could be working on getting homework done for my drivers license, I could be sleeping cause I have to get up in 8 hours. But no I’m sitting here watching a tire roll around from 13 years ago
This is a great visualization of Toe for motorsports fans thanks
Im currently studying about slip angle. Does this mean thicker sidewall = More slip angle when cornering?
Might be why f1 cars have such thick sidewalls!
I think it also has to do with tyre pressure, less tyre pressure, more flexible tyre, more slip angle.
Generally a thicker sidewall means more slip angle when cornering, but other factors effect it like tyre pressure and sidewall stiffness, the biggest difference between an eco tyre compared to a sportier tyre apart from rubber compound is the stiffness of the sidewall. A stiffer sidewall won’t just limit slip angle but also tyre ‘roll over’ where a tyre can slip so much it wears the tyre edge and is nearly running on the sideway
@@rx8tom F1 sidewalls are so thick because they act as part of the suspension
Cheers. I made a upgrade to my car last year and want to share my findongs woth you.
My goal was to have a more responding handling in my car. But it should be comfortable on the straights as well.
So my rims have a width if 9.5inch
The tire is 255 which is a slight stretch.
The result is amazing. The initial steering response is almost immediate but falls flat when cornering in high speeds.
The tire is the Fulda Sport Control 2 which is a soft tire with high grip and high comfort.
So what I want to say is.
The width of the rim has hige impact on the tire roll.
Yes, we all know the current year...
Goodyear?
YT comment section in the nutshell
It’s hell in old music videos. Like FFS, yes, it’s the current year. It’s always been the current year. One needn’t bring attention to it.
@@jalijah03 yes, correct
UA-cam algorithm catching upto me after 16 years.
@philtripe just because your tire says 44psi that doesn't mean to fill them that high. if u read the tire it says for maximum payload capability then fill to that pressure. otherwise you are suppose to full the tires according to the vehicles recommendation,.
I am a car guy I should get this recommended but the others ...
HOW is this in my recommended. 13 YEARS later???
Listen, This is UA-cam
Not UA-cam
It's the UA-cam algorithm
Because some vehicles have specific applications. Pickup trucks are designed to tow, haul and off road. Pickup trucks are designed to be as tough as they can possibly be. They are not designed to go around corners quickly.
You wouldn't use a computer to cook dinner, would you? You wouldn't use a circular saw to open a letter, right? So why ask a pickup truck to do a sports car's job?
Hey
@MrMegacedric just imagine some high pitch squeeling
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Imagine commenting 9 years ago only to have kids spam IKR 9 years later
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UA-cam history again with this one
I didn't know that I needed to see this. But it turns out I did.
Pov: you go to the comments knowing that most people have no clue what they're looking at
I'm 13 years late. A beautiful demonstration of side wall deflection and why lopros help in handling and why lopros blow out on pot Hole's.
Bruh even before reply system lol
no, replies have always been a thing. when youtube merged with google plus it broke all the replies made prior to the update.
@@MultiColiflower i remember the top two comments thing :(
@@BigFlex516 what
@@MultiColiflower before the g+ merge there was a thing where the top two most liked comments would be pinned automatically on every video
@@BigFlex516 damn, i feel like i kinda remember that but barely, lol
This tyre is from 'Cars' movie actually
13 years. It took my sisters entire life for me to see this.
Lmao
People 10 years ago:
Let's help the others who couldn't see when it happened
People now:
Is that a meme? Is that a reference? Wow UA-cam recommendation.
Haha, so funny 😐😐
@@freakymustang268 hahaha, so unfunny
@@Moneyvinay Damn, you got me. I feel sad now. :(
Interestingly, in the game BeamNG.Drive you can actually watch tire slip happen while your vehicle or a vehicle is maneuvering.
It's just for visuals but even forza horizon has that. Beam is super cool thou I will say
Oh boy I’m so glad youtube made this video available for me to see 13 years later. Thanks algorithm, it’s not like original UA-cam recommended worked or anything.
Tell me again how your stretched and stanced civic is supposed to be a performance car?
i didn't realize tires deflected that much.
First time I'm seeing it in 16 years and that's a banger. Thanks UA-cam !
Fun fact! This happens to the skin of your feet and your hands when grabbing something
I'm not able to grab something with my feet so that's obviously not true