Cloud City is sci-fy. They said from the start, Starfield isn't sci-fy. It's low-fi. It's basically our world 300 years into the future. Floating cities requires special hover tech that only exists in the Star Wars universe
90% of the planets would be cooler if there were less rocks on the surface. Let me have my planet covered in sand dunes, Todd Edit: this is not an actual critique of the game, I don't know how some of y'all take it as such
thats my biggest complaint. yes I get the idea is to mine resources, but most planets are literally just balls of rock with no amazing features. All the planets in the game are just littered with giant boulders and it kind of kills the atmosphere
As someone with a minor in Astronomy, this makes me very happy. Especially showing pictures of Venus' surface, being that it took me until I was like 20 to ever see those photos. Absolutely fascinating. When I worked as a Planetarium Operator, I would always include that in the star show. I thought this was gonna be a spoofy/click baity video, but this was great. Yet another reason to love you habie
I don't know how accurate it is, but I really like how blue Pluto is in the game. It's definitely one of my favorite planets in Starfield. It also has massive mountains.
We’ll it’s not accurate. At all. Pluto is brown, beige, and pink. We’ve literally had closeup photos of Pluto and Charon for 10 years now. All the lazy garbage developers at Bethesda had to do was crack open a fucking astronomy magazine published after 2012 to know that.
@@whydontyouhandledeez Pluto failed to meet one of the three criteria to be a planet. It isn't massive enough to exert orbital dominance. It's that small. So it hasn't cleared other bodies in its neighbourhood. Our gas giants are different because the large amount of moons they have (while looking like an uncleared neighbourhood) orbit around the gas giants. You can't say the same for Pluto. It's even smaller than Earth's moon. It's a dwarf planet.
Okay but I found space spiders overrunning a drilling station on Europa so the underground ocean thing wasn't completely ignored. It honestly felt like I was playing a Prey sequel
@@dollenrm It was so well designed with enemy spawns it's crazy. After you shoot through lower levels of the base and exit to fight about 15 spiders and 2 giant bosses you walk up some stairs and see a ton of them all clustered feeding on bodies and stuff and watch as they all turn and notice you. I would've been extremely impressed if it was a main quest in a game specifically about that but it was just a random dungeon in a Bethesda game
@@dollenrm Probably because unless you're looking for outposts you won't find it. I think it's part of the reason why this game has such extreme reactions, if you enjoy starfield already then you'll have fun looking for these things but it's not like Skyrim or fallout where you get lost in a new area on your way to an objective. There're so many planets that finding extra content on a planet you don't have to go to for a mission is a commitment with no guarantees of finding something that's engaging
Bought this after your last video. It's been amazing. I live in the Panhandle, so getting some fun ""Florida"" screenshots for my friends was a top priority. Playing through the intro was a slogggg, and it was hard overcoming the boredom of exploring rocky planet after rocky planet in the first couple systems I traveled to, but it turns out the vast emptiness of alien worlds is great podcast/youtube picture-in-picture material. I've never really played a game where there's enough downtime to chillax with my robot bro between exploration and the odd hauling job. Vibes as hell game.
@@Nebulaoblivion Gone through a few faction quests so far and it's about what I expected. If there's any quests I actually go out of my way to do, I usually pick up some Freestar Ranger radiant bounty hunting missions. Those pay well, and I like the gunplay quite a bit. Bethesda quest design doesn't allow for character roleplay at all, so I'd rather drop down and see what I can explore -- or shoot stuff.
Starfield’s made me question our existence more than almost any other game. Since I love CS Lewis’s Space Trilogy I imagine so much of it through the lens of those novels: Out of the Silent Planet and Perelandra.
Well Spore, the game, has no central plotline. So I'm glad you're able to so confidently talk out of your ass. If you mean the use of Panspermia, etc. Those are functionally gameplay dynamics. Spice is a trade item because anything could be, so they chose a pop culture reference which was still relevant in 2008. Unless you're referring to the Adventures in space update, which isn't a main storyline, it's a DLC. In No Man's Sky, the game wasn't released with a main storyline, it took 15 updates before a storyline was added. In that storyline, a 4th race of unrelated "aliens" known as the Travellers are all separated by different universes, given their designation by the atlas by using a scan of its own creators mind. The player character is a Traveller, whom can see other travelers as the bounds between universes begins to fall apart due to Atlas's death. Tl;Dr the story is basically you live In a simulation, and the simulation's "personification" is dying, and asks you to reset it. You choose either to reset it to your choice of galaxy, or choose to wait because you can reset it later anyway since it's a cosmic timescale. They refer to this as "knowing the Atlas " or "entering the atlas", but more accurately they specifically state that they're resetting the galaxy. The portals are only tangentially related as they are mainly a gameplay element that needed to be explained as a link between galaxies. Star Field is about an unknown Creator, whom created a series of artifacts so that the singular sentient species in the universe may understand the universe. In Starfield, no other life with a functioning consciousness exists beyond humans. The Creator(s) feel that some humans should understand the multiverse, and gives them an option to do so. Starfields "multiverse" is based heavily on string theory multiverse concepts, with sprinklings of sci Fi. As an ending to Starfield, you collect the artifacts and enter Unity; once entered you are completely erased from one universe and spread across the rest. You are reborn as a different species, a Star born, whom has no possessions or life of his own, only retaining his/her skills and memories of their past life. Things are different, but similar to the universe before it; and only key concepts remain the same, the keystone events that drive the history that powers the continued process of artifacts being collected and understood. In starfield, there are separate endings for each individual storyline you pursue. As a constellation member, your choices to either join or fight the Starborn, The Emissary and The Hunter, or side with one of them, determines the fate of the continued research of Artifacts in that universe. Your actions taken with factions like the Crimson Fleet, Va'Ruun, UC, Free star collective, etc. All determine the total outcome of that universe's crime hierarchy, other small events you complete will have a separate outcome set in place for it. They also planned for you to continue the cycle, at least 9 times in total, becoming a more adept Starborn each and every cycle. There's a (New Game++++++++) I'm not surprised you aren't able to distinguish the storylines of those games, seeing as how you dumb down everything to your level in order to make them easier to digest.
Loved the video. Just to add a few things: with Venus Bethesda skipped over the fact that the atmosphere has over 90 times the pressure of Earth's. Equivalent to being 900 meters underwater. You would be crushed so fast that you wouldn't feel pain. I don't know if there's some lore reason for Venus quickly shedding most of its atmosphere in Starfield, but right now you would have to contend with the pressure as well as the heat. Not to mention the sulfuric acid that rains from the clouds, evaporates on the way down and covers the surface in a corrosive mist. The Venera probes suffered quite a lot before they died. Let's see James Cameron handle that one. And Io is even worse than it sounds. Not only is it a cryovolcanic shithole, it's also viciously radioactive. In fact, it's the major contributor to the horrific radiation belt that surrounds Jupiter, making it by far the most radioactive planet in the solar system. Io's volcanism spews a lot of matter that Jupiter's powerful electromagnetic field catches and ionizes into high-energy particles, and that radiation is strongest at Io because it's the closest moon. Being on it without proper shielding for several hours would give you a lethal dose. Jupiter's radiation belt is one of the reasons the Juno probe stuck to polar orbits; the belt is more powerful around the equator and it would have endangered Juno's circuits if it was exposed for too long. Starfield's depiction of Io is indeed absolute dogshit. And yes, their depiction of Europa really does suck as well. I also think they overdid the haze on Mars; the visibility seems too low for a planet that barely has an atmosphere. On the real-life picture you showed at 3:52 there's haze but it seems to be on a zoomed-in photo showing a mountain considerably far away. In Starfield's version of Mars you can barely see past fifty meters. It almost looks like Venus.
Yeah I have no idea why there's giant rocks on Europa when we should probably have landscapes of endless rugged ice instead. The Moon looked super disappointing having played KSP with the parallax mod as a point of comparison.
Not gonna argue that some planets are definitely not accurate. But, i do kinda understand why they chose things like making venus. Explorable. Because i don't know if you've heard, but so, so many people have complained about not being able to land on or explore GAS GIANTS. Of course catering to those vocal minorities might not be worth the realism sacrifice.
@@Verchiel_ If they had added vehicles to the game, making Venus explorable exclusively by vehicle would have been a good compromise, but unfortunately (and absurdly) the only way to explore planets at present is to hike across them, so yeah, it was either that or keeping Venus off-limits. It's really funny, though; Starfield's spacesuits won't protect you from lung damage if you come near a gas vent, but hey, feel free to wander around the surface of fucking Mercury. As for gas giants: it would actually be really really cool if you could "land" on them, as in, fly around the cloudtops (possibly siphoning gas, like ammonia). We're talking thunderheads the size of montains here, it's unspeakably gorgeous. But yeah, it's also very computationally expensive because it requires large-scale volumetric effects beyond the scope even of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, currently the undisputed king of optimized cloud tech. Bethesda's current iteration of the Creation Engine probably couldn't render a volumetric puff of smoke without shitting itself, from what I've played so far. The only truly explorable gas giant in videogames is probably Star Citizen's Crusader, but even if you can get past all the horrific server issues that plague that game's performance, Crusader's cloud formations are static, low-res, grainy and the planet is only a tenth of Jupiter's size (roughly equivalent to Earth's size). That may sound like it's big enough but it really isn't, because clouds and the curvature of the horizon tend to give away a planet's true size. If you can discern the depth of the clouds before you're in the atmosphere, yeah, you're not looking at a gas giant.
@@WasatchWind The rocks are certainly an inherent part of their procedural generation algorithm for planetary surfaces. If I'm not mistaken, minable resources only (or mostly) spawn on those rocks, so it's all tied to gameplay. Bethesda probably has a parameter to make those rocks rarer, but the problem isn't the rocks themselves, it's the apparent lack of texture variety for them. They would look far better on Europa if they were textured like ice, matching the ground. That would make them look like terrain formations instead of rocky outcrops. It would take more effort than that to make it look like a realistic depiction of Europa, but that would certainly get it much closer.
Volumetric stuff has been implemented with mods (at least in skyrim to my knowledge) so that's not out of the question. Volumetric clouds most notably. @@sketchcritic6409
Last 2 videos have felt different than most Habie, but in the best way. your commentary is top tier. excited to see you be able to branch out into pretty much any avenue you need content-wise❤
Blade and Sorcery has an Imperial City Arena mod that has a bunch of Oblivion’s weapons and a mode where you fight the city’s guards in the arena. Just thought I’d let you know Habie
Except Io is not actually that fiery IRL; it's a generally frozen sulphurous moon that is volcanically active, but it is not quite fiery the way the surface might appear, especially when Io traverses behind Jupiter where it freezes. Only when Io is back in the sunlight does the frozen surface sublimates and volcanic activity begins anew.
@@througheverything I agree and disagree. Io in game looks like bog standard rocky lunar surface; I'd be happier if it looked like Venus minus the haze and heat. Io's surface looks the way it does IRL presumably because of the intense radiation of Jupiter.
Dude I fucking love that they gave Jupiter its rings. So, so many sci fi media just don't give Jupiter rings even though it has rings. Like, yeah they're pretty much only a mile tall in thickness but they're impossible to miss if you're looking at Jupiter from an angle or above/below it. I super appreciate that detail.
Boy oh boy do I want to buy this game just to do exactly this. Nothing else would be planned, just fly to our solar system and land on anything I can. Thank you for giving me a taste of this experience for free Habbie. Glad to hear the angel of death didn't claim you this time.
Generally I think they did pretty well with planet map generation and lighting, esp for day one game. It's a whole new experience for me going from one planet to another.
Europa was the FIRST place I went in our solar system. also disappointed. but very cool finding the egypt pyramids on earth and apollo landing site on moon
Can’t wait for the mods that completely fix the whole Sol system, adding in old landmarks on Earth that would be there still, and adding in more scientific accuracy to sunrises, sunsets, and color of atmospheres on different worlds that would match with reality given known data.
Imagine if the devs of elite dangerous, star citizen, starfield, and others actualy worked together to make the best full scale completely open world planetary system ever
Love the fact that the smoothbrains have been moved to the end of the video, Still showing respect to them but at the same time not ruining the flow of the video
Starfield legit got me into searching up facts about moons and planets in our solar system.. literally have 4 tabs bookmarked on my browser that are related to planets and moons
Our Solar System has enough planets and asteroids all by itself that if fully populated it would roflstomp all over the sparsely populated "empires" like the Star Wars Empire or states like the Federation from Star Trek. I highly suggest the UA-cam channel by Isaac Arthur. He is the President of the National Space Society (basically the IRL Constellation only with thousands of people and real power), and his channel is all about how we can colonize space and about the future all within the known laws of physics. It is mind-blowing that stuff we could do. I might suggest his series on colonizing the Solar System. It's where I learned that we could use Titan as a gigantic fuel dump because it is literally made out of rocket fuel, and it is also really, really, cold which makes it good for computing - so good we could make supercomputers more powerful than every computer on Earth combined many times over - we could even turn it into a giant factory spewing out spaceships. Link to the playlist about all that. ua-cam.com/play/PLIIOUpOge0LsIzYlIAIRdAGJTqAW6FmCE.html&si=RkULDX1jeK7hygzT
Bro I’m just vibing. Great job I’m happy you left that half point for titan. I played a solar system board game as a kid, Solar Quest. And so many interesting moons. Where’s my Snope!
You saying astronomy class and college in the same sentence brought back memories of freshman me getting shoved into a junior level astronomy course and promptly failing since I had NO IDEA what was going on.
I’m a sea of the usual Bethesda game stapled videos, I am enjoying the approach habie has towards this game. Just sort of gushing over the science and astronomy. It’s a nice bit of positivity to end the weekend.
I found it funny how you were talking facts about these planets, all of which I knew as basic knowledge. Just thinking that anyone else didn’t know much about these kinds of things would be strange to me.
I mean its a good point at first but then again.... We looked at planets in real life and 100% know that hospitable, warm planets with life and water are very very rare. "Space magic" how you like to call it, however, is completely unexplored. Also, just dont land on barren planets if you dont like barren landscapes. Theres 100 Planets out there filled with life. Fly on. "Space magic" could technically exist in real life, we simply dont know. The game is still realistic in that aspect.
I’d prefer a more hard scifi take, without any of the space magic. The whole “ancient alien civilization (or our ancient ancestors) ruled the stars and mysteriously disappeared, now humanity must claim this legacy” plot-line has become so old and stale.
@@wrongthinker843 chill out dude. Not everyone is automatically "coping" because they like something that you dont. Every other space game except for NMS have mostly empty planets with nothing to do. NMS planets/flora/fauna are all also procedurally generated. Starfield along with NMS are really the only actual space games i know which feature dead, alive and worlds that are something inbetween.
@@thesun6051 Planetary exploration was very specifically a marketing point. But hey, I'm not saying you can't enjoy everything that comes out of Todd's ass. Just don't pretend it's high dining.
I dont know who I'm watching until I see the mirror brain screen, then I'm like "ohh it's that guy". Good content, hope I can do astronomy stuff if i get to uni
3:56 I had a little thought before that was originally meant to be a joke, but it was “imagine if mars is a past and possible future, a different “earth” per say, that were to have an event to occur that slowly withered away the natural environment/nature and or civilization, one that would erase almost the entirety of the accomplishments made, with only the smallest and possibly most hidden trace… for all we know, mars could have been the human original “home world” during or maybe somewhat before the age of the dinosaurs, after the extinction of the dinosaurs the event could have possibly been soon to occur and an evacuation of mars would begin towards the recently recovering planet soon to be called earth (which translates to “dirt” still) after arrival a possible civilization would be built?… and then a wipe out only leaving a young few of *SMALL* intellect individuals or babies I dunno to somehow rebuild.” There, my digital keyboard is lagging so ima finish this.
Yeah, I feel what you're saying about the moon, and the funny thing is I went to another moon in Starfield that actually looks like The Moon should with empty gray dunes and few rocks. It lacked crater pock marks, and had a thin atmosphere but it was so close.
With mods you can get it serviceable with mid-tier hardware. If you require legit buttery smooth framerates and no stutter you'll want to forget the game exists since there are issues that can never be solved because of their choice in ancient engine.
Don't listen to the Hawk guy, just another person who knows nothing about game engines. Modders will be able to fix performance when modding tools come out, Bethesda clearly rushed and didn't do proper optimization for the cities, or hell even the planets..
They really gave Mercury (that sky is one of the prettiest visuals in the game), Titan and Mars all of the love. You can land on Pluto too, fyi. It's just another barren rock like Venus, though.
1:26 as funny as it is, its also 100% true. except the dog is sort of a bred animal. but as an alien you could definitely have landed a rover to take a picture and see a pooping elephant , earth is absolutely unique not just in our own solar system
Got to be honest, as much as I love this game, they did solar system dirty! It was the area I wanted to explore the most before launch, now.. I barelly visit there.
i have travelled to several random planets with forests and have yet to see a river or even creek cutting through a landscape. it’s kind of strange actually how little water there is on any of the planets. i know there are coasts you can visit but those are next to unexplorable oceans. i just want to wade through a river or play in a creek
You can swim in the game, you just can’t go under the water. If you go eridani II in eridani system, that planet is exactly like planet reach from halo, and has all that and more what you want. Bottom left of the star map 🤞🏻
@@jimmynimbus757 that’s cool but im talking less about the curated planets that have been obviously hand crafted and more about the random ones you stumble upon. like while exploring the mysterious procedurally generated planets i have yet to find one with interesting water features. they’re mostly just rocky hills with either a few different trees sprinkled around or desolate barren wastes
I love Starfield, don't get me wrong. But the thing I was looking forward to most was exploring the solar systems worlds. Albeit I did, they were just copy and pasted from all the other planets in the game. With Mars being the exception, it was rather disappointing. (I also would've preferred the moon to be more bland)
Habie ignoring Uranus and Neptune is just like NASA in real life. They say we have 8 (9?) planets, but they focus on Earf cuz potential asteroid death, Mars because possible life, Jupiter cuz big and possible life, ans Saturn cuz pretty and possible life. Mercury, Venus, and the blue bois get forgotten :(
Nono you are correct, Io is the most volcanic location in the solar system, right after IO comes Europa with its Cryovolcanos spewing out now frozen to snow and chunks of ice. However what really hits the the wrong way is the planet neon is on. You cant dive in the game, and there are no waves. The place is a Panthalassic Planet or an ocean Planet that is 100% covered in ocean. Its like the world in Subnautica BUT EVERYTHING is underwater (its really cool). I was expecting to be landing in water, using the ship to go thru water. Meet horrible sea monsters and be traumatized by the uninmaginable horrors that just simply swim in the ocean. Instead we got 1 landing spot because you cannot land anywhere else, 2 kinds of peaceful fish. And a place that is called a sort of "Trade Hub" for the setteled systems that has not only a Wholefully undersized Spaceport but the entirety of neon i undersized. You telling me the place wasnt expanded in the past 100 Years? I was expecting Hydrofarms, Docks, Lighting rods everywhere, Underwater areas, you name it. Imagine Motherbase but there are structures on the water aswell!
... And a way bigger spaceport. Also new Atlantis is tiny for supposedly being THE capital of the united colonies. Housing presumeably a majority of people evacuated from earth before its exodus. I kinda was expecting some sci-fi "suburbs" alongside a tall corporate centre that we got. Whoever is gonna expand each town (exept Akila City ... Akila City feels genuinely real for its size due to the setting (extremely dangerous predators everywhere) plus its Space Whiterun so it gets a pass by me) is gonna have a fieldday with each. (Lots of work)
Combustion is an oxidation reduction reaction. For the nitrogen in the atmosphere to combust would require an Oxidizer. On Earth most materials will oxidize readily with Oxygen at high enough temperatures. On Titan there is little to no oxygen, the atmosphere is pretty much homogeneous so there’s nothing else for the nitrogen to react with to cause combustion.
I was honestly shocked when I landed on Io to see what they'd done to it. Pluto was also rather disappointing based on how it looks in the New Horizons photos, though I'm not entirely sure how it'd compare when you factor in colour correction and how things would look at ground level.
I found my dad making a ship in starfield, came back 3 hours later and he was only half done. It flew like a pumpkin with a firework attached.
🤣🤣🤣
i made the shittiest ship i could on purpose and it turned out great to use for some reason. it does look like shit though
Hahahaha, did it at least look cool??
All ships in Starfield fly like pumpkins, tho
He wasn't winning
The best part about this is I know I’ll be downloading 10TB of accurate planet mods
There really wouldn't be much of a point unless those mods added tons of new quests and POIs. Hell, it might happen.
@@Hawk7886this is why imma wait a year for my first play through. Someones gonna mod something fantastic into the game here soon
@@cbaileychamp just play the base game first so you can appreciate how godly bethesda game modders truly are
Gotta wait for a year until the devs will finally release a modding tool
@@Hawk7886 Making the game look more accurate is the point. Not every mod is going to add quests
1:15 there are types of rockets specifically made to take pictures of a planet/big space thing just seconds before cratering.
Satellites/Probes*
@@protongamin4544 Surface Impactors*
Yeah, only reason we haven't done that on Mercury is because the probe would be partially liquid before hitting the surface.
@@OwOraTheWitchthen why don't we just fly there at night?
@@skraz0rNASA, hire this guy
you can find several books in the game which unlocks several landmarks for you to visit on earth. i thought it was pretty neat
Thank you! Random stranger on the internet!
I’m going to go and do that asap
Which ones?
Empire State Building is the coolest
I’m really surprised they never made a cloud city and put it on Venus as a location to go to that wouldn’t melt you
@@TurtleMan134 except the concept has been proposed for years, it’s not very original but the concept is sound. Which is right up Bethesda’s alley.
@@TurtleMan134 fair I guess
They did that in Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus.
Cloud City is sci-fy. They said from the start, Starfield isn't sci-fy. It's low-fi. It's basically our world 300 years into the future. Floating cities requires special hover tech that only exists in the Star Wars universe
@@TraceguyRuneand a galaxy far, far way
fun fact about mars in this game; you can actually find the opportunity rover located where it officially died.
rip Oppy
wait fr? where
😭
Do i need to find a book about it?
@@ReikiMaulana You will find the hint near the end of the game.
90% of the planets would be cooler if there were less rocks on the surface. Let me have my planet covered in sand dunes, Todd
Edit: this is not an actual critique of the game, I don't know how some of y'all take it as such
thats my biggest complaint. yes I get the idea is to mine resources, but most planets are literally just balls of rock with no amazing features. All the planets in the game are just littered with giant boulders and it kind of kills the atmosphere
that's literally what Earth is, sand dunes.
@@Mach_Styleno grav drive research killed the atmosphere lol
@milkguy7368 is this sarcasm? Lol he doesn't mean cooler in terms of temps. The planet would look cooler if it wasn't nothing but rocks lol
@@renaigh with rocks the size of large cows every 5 feet
4:02 the complete reduction of a massive planet down to "it's literally a giant fart" is just amazing
As someone with a minor in Astronomy, this makes me very happy. Especially showing pictures of Venus' surface, being that it took me until I was like 20 to ever see those photos. Absolutely fascinating. When I worked as a Planetarium Operator, I would always include that in the star show. I thought this was gonna be a spoofy/click baity video, but this was great. Yet another reason to love you habie
I don't know how accurate it is, but I really like how blue Pluto is in the game. It's definitely one of my favorite planets in Starfield. It also has massive mountains.
"planets" lmao
@@smellycat57 Dwarf planets are still planets. Just more dwarfy
We’ll it’s not accurate. At all. Pluto is brown, beige, and pink. We’ve literally had closeup photos of Pluto and Charon for 10 years now. All the lazy garbage developers at Bethesda had to do was crack open a fucking astronomy magazine published after 2012 to know that.
@@smellycat57Also by the goofy ass rules they used to demote pluto you could technically have gas giants that are dwarf planets so...
@@whydontyouhandledeez Pluto failed to meet one of the three criteria to be a planet.
It isn't massive enough to exert orbital dominance. It's that small. So it hasn't cleared other bodies in its neighbourhood. Our gas giants are different because the large amount of moons they have (while looking like an uncleared neighbourhood) orbit around the gas giants. You can't say the same for Pluto. It's even smaller than Earth's moon. It's a dwarf planet.
Man, I love the planet talk. I didn't know a lot of the things you talked about and found it very fascinating!
Okay but I found space spiders overrunning a drilling station on Europa so the underground ocean thing wasn't completely ignored. It honestly felt like I was playing a Prey sequel
Yo wait what
@@dollenrm It was so well designed with enemy spawns it's crazy. After you shoot through lower levels of the base and exit to fight about 15 spiders and 2 giant bosses you walk up some stairs and see a ton of them all clustered feeding on bodies and stuff and watch as they all turn and notice you. I would've been extremely impressed if it was a main quest in a game specifically about that but it was just a random dungeon in a Bethesda game
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh that's so fucking cool what the heck! I wonder why habie thought it was completely barren and such
@@dollenrm Probably because unless you're looking for outposts you won't find it. I think it's part of the reason why this game has such extreme reactions, if you enjoy starfield already then you'll have fun looking for these things but it's not like Skyrim or fallout where you get lost in a new area on your way to an objective. There're so many planets that finding extra content on a planet you don't have to go to for a mission is a commitment with no guarantees of finding something that's engaging
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh seems like a pretty good hypothesis to me
I really appreciate the Celsius conversion and you not putting the smooth brain part in the middle. Love your content!
Bought this after your last video. It's been amazing. I live in the Panhandle, so getting some fun ""Florida"" screenshots for my friends was a top priority. Playing through the intro was a slogggg, and it was hard overcoming the boredom of exploring rocky planet after rocky planet in the first couple systems I traveled to, but it turns out the vast emptiness of alien worlds is great podcast/youtube picture-in-picture material. I've never really played a game where there's enough downtime to chillax with my robot bro between exploration and the odd hauling job. Vibes as hell game.
That's historically what most people call "an ocean wide and puddle deep"
@@Nebulaoblivion Gone through a few faction quests so far and it's about what I expected. If there's any quests I actually go out of my way to do, I usually pick up some Freestar Ranger radiant bounty hunting missions. Those pay well, and I like the gunplay quite a bit. Bethesda quest design doesn't allow for character roleplay at all, so I'd rather drop down and see what I can explore -- or shoot stuff.
Starfield’s made me question our existence more than almost any other game. Since I love CS Lewis’s Space Trilogy I imagine so much of it through the lens of those novels: Out of the Silent Planet and Perelandra.
do you know other space related books that may inspired the starfield
lewis has a speca trilogy books? I only read narnia (all books) and the dark tower
Well Spore, the game, has no central plotline. So I'm glad you're able to so confidently talk out of your ass. If you mean the use of Panspermia, etc. Those are functionally gameplay dynamics. Spice is a trade item because anything could be, so they chose a pop culture reference which was still relevant in 2008. Unless you're referring to the Adventures in space update, which isn't a main storyline, it's a DLC.
In No Man's Sky, the game wasn't released with a main storyline, it took 15 updates before a storyline was added. In that storyline, a 4th race of unrelated "aliens" known as the Travellers are all separated by different universes, given their designation by the atlas by using a scan of its own creators mind. The player character is a Traveller, whom can see other travelers as the bounds between universes begins to fall apart due to Atlas's death. Tl;Dr the story is basically you live In a simulation, and the simulation's "personification" is dying, and asks you to reset it. You choose either to reset it to your choice of galaxy, or choose to wait because you can reset it later anyway since it's a cosmic timescale. They refer to this as "knowing the Atlas " or "entering the atlas", but more accurately they specifically state that they're resetting the galaxy. The portals are only tangentially related as they are mainly a gameplay element that needed to be explained as a link between galaxies.
Star Field is about an unknown Creator, whom created a series of artifacts so that the singular sentient species in the universe may understand the universe. In Starfield, no other life with a functioning consciousness exists beyond humans. The Creator(s) feel that some humans should understand the multiverse, and gives them an option to do so. Starfields "multiverse" is based heavily on string theory multiverse concepts, with sprinklings of sci Fi. As an ending to Starfield, you collect the artifacts and enter Unity; once entered you are completely erased from one universe and spread across the rest. You are reborn as a different species, a Star born, whom has no possessions or life of his own, only retaining his/her skills and memories of their past life. Things are different, but similar to the universe before it; and only key concepts remain the same, the keystone events that drive the history that powers the continued process of artifacts being collected and understood.
In starfield, there are separate endings for each individual storyline you pursue. As a constellation member, your choices to either join or fight the Starborn, The Emissary and The Hunter, or side with one of them, determines the fate of the continued research of Artifacts in that universe. Your actions taken with factions like the Crimson Fleet, Va'Ruun, UC, Free star collective, etc. All determine the total outcome of that universe's crime hierarchy, other small events you complete will have a separate outcome set in place for it.
They also planned for you to continue the cycle, at least 9 times in total, becoming a more adept Starborn each and every cycle. There's a (New Game++++++++)
I'm not surprised you aren't able to distinguish the storylines of those games, seeing as how you dumb down everything to your level in order to make them easier to digest.
@@GuardianMehmedbasically look up any article titled "popular space and sci-fi books" and you'll find their reading list
@@vpaul4374dude, idk if you’re a Christian but if you are I would recommend mere Christianity, it’s probably one of his best books
Loved the video. Just to add a few things: with Venus Bethesda skipped over the fact that the atmosphere has over 90 times the pressure of Earth's. Equivalent to being 900 meters underwater. You would be crushed so fast that you wouldn't feel pain. I don't know if there's some lore reason for Venus quickly shedding most of its atmosphere in Starfield, but right now you would have to contend with the pressure as well as the heat. Not to mention the sulfuric acid that rains from the clouds, evaporates on the way down and covers the surface in a corrosive mist. The Venera probes suffered quite a lot before they died. Let's see James Cameron handle that one.
And Io is even worse than it sounds. Not only is it a cryovolcanic shithole, it's also viciously radioactive. In fact, it's the major contributor to the horrific radiation belt that surrounds Jupiter, making it by far the most radioactive planet in the solar system. Io's volcanism spews a lot of matter that Jupiter's powerful electromagnetic field catches and ionizes into high-energy particles, and that radiation is strongest at Io because it's the closest moon. Being on it without proper shielding for several hours would give you a lethal dose. Jupiter's radiation belt is one of the reasons the Juno probe stuck to polar orbits; the belt is more powerful around the equator and it would have endangered Juno's circuits if it was exposed for too long.
Starfield's depiction of Io is indeed absolute dogshit. And yes, their depiction of Europa really does suck as well. I also think they overdid the haze on Mars; the visibility seems too low for a planet that barely has an atmosphere. On the real-life picture you showed at 3:52 there's haze but it seems to be on a zoomed-in photo showing a mountain considerably far away. In Starfield's version of Mars you can barely see past fifty meters. It almost looks like Venus.
Yeah I have no idea why there's giant rocks on Europa when we should probably have landscapes of endless rugged ice instead.
The Moon looked super disappointing having played KSP with the parallax mod as a point of comparison.
Not gonna argue that some planets are definitely not accurate.
But, i do kinda understand why they chose things like making venus. Explorable.
Because i don't know if you've heard, but so, so many people have complained about not being able to land on or explore GAS GIANTS. Of course catering to those vocal minorities might not be worth the realism sacrifice.
@@Verchiel_ If they had added vehicles to the game, making Venus explorable exclusively by vehicle would have been a good compromise, but unfortunately (and absurdly) the only way to explore planets at present is to hike across them, so yeah, it was either that or keeping Venus off-limits. It's really funny, though; Starfield's spacesuits won't protect you from lung damage if you come near a gas vent, but hey, feel free to wander around the surface of fucking Mercury.
As for gas giants: it would actually be really really cool if you could "land" on them, as in, fly around the cloudtops (possibly siphoning gas, like ammonia). We're talking thunderheads the size of montains here, it's unspeakably gorgeous. But yeah, it's also very computationally expensive because it requires large-scale volumetric effects beyond the scope even of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, currently the undisputed king of optimized cloud tech. Bethesda's current iteration of the Creation Engine probably couldn't render a volumetric puff of smoke without shitting itself, from what I've played so far. The only truly explorable gas giant in videogames is probably Star Citizen's Crusader, but even if you can get past all the horrific server issues that plague that game's performance, Crusader's cloud formations are static, low-res, grainy and the planet is only a tenth of Jupiter's size (roughly equivalent to Earth's size). That may sound like it's big enough but it really isn't, because clouds and the curvature of the horizon tend to give away a planet's true size. If you can discern the depth of the clouds before you're in the atmosphere, yeah, you're not looking at a gas giant.
@@WasatchWind The rocks are certainly an inherent part of their procedural generation algorithm for planetary surfaces. If I'm not mistaken, minable resources only (or mostly) spawn on those rocks, so it's all tied to gameplay. Bethesda probably has a parameter to make those rocks rarer, but the problem isn't the rocks themselves, it's the apparent lack of texture variety for them. They would look far better on Europa if they were textured like ice, matching the ground. That would make them look like terrain formations instead of rocky outcrops. It would take more effort than that to make it look like a realistic depiction of Europa, but that would certainly get it much closer.
Volumetric stuff has been implemented with mods (at least in skyrim to my knowledge) so that's not out of the question. Volumetric clouds most notably. @@sketchcritic6409
Last 2 videos have felt different than most Habie, but in the best way. your commentary is top tier. excited to see you be able to branch out into pretty much any avenue you need content-wise❤
Blade and Sorcery has an Imperial City Arena mod that has a bunch of Oblivion’s weapons and a mode where you fight the city’s guards in the arena. Just thought I’d let you know Habie
For Io they could've just used Red Mountain for inspiration and then made it an entire moon.
Except Io is not actually that fiery IRL; it's a generally frozen sulphurous moon that is volcanically active, but it is not quite fiery the way the surface might appear, especially when Io traverses behind Jupiter where it freezes. Only when Io is back in the sunlight does the frozen surface sublimates and volcanic activity begins anew.
@@ResidentWeevil2077It’s also not the boring mess it is in Starfield. The volcanic depiction would be way better.
@@througheverything I agree and disagree. Io in game looks like bog standard rocky lunar surface; I'd be happier if it looked like Venus minus the haze and heat. Io's surface looks the way it does IRL presumably because of the intense radiation of Jupiter.
Dude I fucking love that they gave Jupiter its rings. So, so many sci fi media just don't give Jupiter rings even though it has rings. Like, yeah they're pretty much only a mile tall in thickness but they're impossible to miss if you're looking at Jupiter from an angle or above/below it. I super appreciate that detail.
3:20
John Halo? Negative! John Madden
You got my thumbs up just for your explanation of Saturn's coolness.
2:00 Thank you for remembering us
wow I never knew we had pictures from the surface of venus. That rocks!
More like that melts rocks
Absolutely agree with Mars. Its a cold desolate desert, but probably one of my most favorite places in Starfield.
You didn't even visit the Opportunity on mars? Best lil rover buddy, and you get a surprise for visiting him!
Boy oh boy do I want to buy this game just to do exactly this. Nothing else would be planned, just fly to our solar system and land on anything I can. Thank you for giving me a taste of this experience for free Habbie. Glad to hear the angel of death didn't claim you this time.
Keep the STARFIELD content coming!
Generally I think they did pretty well with planet map generation and lighting, esp for day one game. It's a whole new experience for me going from one planet to another.
Nice vid. I’ve actually enjoyed exploring planets and moons a lot. I’ll be curious to see how the change in the next few years from mods.
Europa was the FIRST place I went in our solar system.
also disappointed. but
very cool finding the egypt pyramids on earth and apollo landing site on moon
Barren, desolate, empty rocks... empty and dead as Todd's soul......
Can’t wait for the mods that completely fix the whole Sol system, adding in old landmarks on Earth that would be there still, and adding in more scientific accuracy to sunrises, sunsets, and color of atmospheres on different worlds that would match with reality given known data.
Imagine if the devs of elite dangerous, star citizen, starfield, and others actualy worked together to make the best full scale completely open world planetary system ever
4:03 => 2023: "Jupiter is Jupiter, you know, it’s literally a giant fart"
"Have you heard about Pluto? That's messed up." Burton Guster
such a wholesome youtuber, always happy to find a new video Habie! Keep up the amazing content
Love the fact that the smoothbrains have been moved to the end of the video, Still showing respect to them but at the same time not ruining the flow of the video
It's videos like this that show habie's versatility as a content creator
Starfield legit got me into searching up facts about moons and planets in our solar system.. literally have 4 tabs bookmarked on my browser that are related to planets and moons
Our Solar System has enough planets and asteroids all by itself that if fully populated it would roflstomp all over the sparsely populated "empires" like the Star Wars Empire or states like the Federation from Star Trek. I highly suggest the UA-cam channel by Isaac Arthur. He is the President of the National Space Society (basically the IRL Constellation only with thousands of people and real power), and his channel is all about how we can colonize space and about the future all within the known laws of physics. It is mind-blowing that stuff we could do. I might suggest his series on colonizing the Solar System. It's where I learned that we could use Titan as a gigantic fuel dump because it is literally made out of rocket fuel, and it is also really, really, cold which makes it good for computing - so good we could make supercomputers more powerful than every computer on Earth combined many times over - we could even turn it into a giant factory spewing out spaceships.
Link to the playlist about all that. ua-cam.com/play/PLIIOUpOge0LsIzYlIAIRdAGJTqAW6FmCE.html&si=RkULDX1jeK7hygzT
Bro I’m just vibing. Great job I’m happy you left that half point for titan. I played a solar system board game as a kid, Solar Quest. And so many interesting moons. Where’s my Snope!
Sinope
4:19 I HAVE THAT POSTER OVER MY DESK!
I love how deep and also comedic you think 10/10
“Our solar system. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter… *ANUS* .”
You saying astronomy class and college in the same sentence brought back memories of freshman me getting shoved into a junior level astronomy course and promptly failing since I had NO IDEA what was going on.
I’m a sea of the usual Bethesda game stapled videos, I am enjoying the approach habie has towards this game.
Just sort of gushing over the science and astronomy. It’s a nice bit of positivity to end the weekend.
I found it funny how you were talking facts about these planets, all of which I knew as basic knowledge. Just thinking that anyone else didn’t know much about these kinds of things would be strange to me.
Starfield: "Planets are barren because realism"
Also Starfield: "Space magic goes brrr"
I mean its a good point at first but then again....
We looked at planets in real life and 100% know that hospitable, warm planets with life and water are very very rare.
"Space magic" how you like to call it, however, is completely unexplored. Also, just dont land on barren planets if you dont like barren landscapes. Theres 100 Planets out there filled with life. Fly on.
"Space magic" could technically exist in real life, we simply dont know. The game is still realistic in that aspect.
@@thesun6051 Yeah, but what's even more real is the cope of fanboys excusing AAA laziness.
I’d prefer a more hard scifi take, without any of the space magic. The whole “ancient alien civilization (or our ancient ancestors) ruled the stars and mysteriously disappeared, now humanity must claim this legacy” plot-line has become so old and stale.
@@wrongthinker843 chill out dude. Not everyone is automatically "coping" because they like something that you dont.
Every other space game except for NMS have mostly empty planets with nothing to do. NMS planets/flora/fauna are all also procedurally generated. Starfield along with NMS are really the only actual space games i know which feature dead, alive and worlds that are something inbetween.
@@thesun6051 Planetary exploration was very specifically a marketing point. But hey, I'm not saying you can't enjoy everything that comes out of Todd's ass. Just don't pretend it's high dining.
The fact that you enter into a fully flamable atmosphere in Titan with your flame thrusting ship
I dont know who I'm watching until I see the mirror brain screen, then I'm like "ohh it's that guy". Good content, hope I can do astronomy stuff if i get to uni
I LOVE ALL YOUR CONTENT and thank you for yelling at the Atomic Mirror brain!! Its my favorite part
I did not expect a astronomy lesson. 10/10!
I fucking love that Europa poster.
Jupiter's moons just feel like a last minute tack-on lowkey, they could've been so much more
With their own lore and POI
@@ForestRaptorI found a drilling station overrun by these space spiders that came out of where they drilled on IO
You weren't close to death door. It was just a cold man
3:56 I had a little thought before that was originally meant to be a joke, but it was “imagine if mars is a past and possible future, a different “earth” per say, that were to have an event to occur that slowly withered away the natural environment/nature and or civilization, one that would erase almost the entirety of the accomplishments made, with only the smallest and possibly most hidden trace… for all we know, mars could have been the human original “home world” during or maybe somewhat before the age of the dinosaurs, after the extinction of the dinosaurs the event could have possibly been soon to occur and an evacuation of mars would begin towards the recently recovering planet soon to be called earth (which translates to “dirt” still) after arrival a possible civilization would be built?… and then a wipe out only leaving a young few of *SMALL* intellect individuals or babies I dunno to somehow rebuild.” There, my digital keyboard is lagging so ima finish this.
The Uranus joke got me and I will never be able to unhear that again
We, the 15%, greatly appreciate your consideration of us and our Celsius measurement.
5:42 I did know a few names of moons, but now I only remember one… titan.
Yeah, I feel what you're saying about the moon, and the funny thing is I went to another moon in Starfield that actually looks like The Moon should with empty gray dunes and few rocks. It lacked crater pock marks, and had a thin atmosphere but it was so close.
why is this such a calming video
Can't believe the homie disrespected Pluto like that
I’m convinced habie went to the university of Colorado Boulder and took an astronomy class there by how he described it. That was a dope clas
Man, wish I could run this game well enough to enjoy playing. Guess I'll come back to it in 5 years when I have an RTX 6080
With mods you can get it serviceable with mid-tier hardware. If you require legit buttery smooth framerates and no stutter you'll want to forget the game exists since there are issues that can never be solved because of their choice in ancient engine.
Don't listen to the Hawk guy, just another person who knows nothing about game engines. Modders will be able to fix performance when modding tools come out, Bethesda clearly rushed and didn't do proper optimization for the cities, or hell even the planets..
Get a series s..
Well, here's a video I didnt know I needed, but I most certainly did need.
That cutaway at the end of the Mercury section was DARK dude.
The 3 dots is so fucking cool i love this channel so much.
you did Neptune's moons dirty you didn't even mention triton
Uranus has a moon named Miranda that has a 12 mile sheer cliff drop off, tallest sheer cliff in the solar system, I wish we could visit that
@ 2:00 haha thanks! Greetings from the Netherlands :)
This is such an awesome video and like this is something the critics aren't even talking about. If you're a fan of astronomy, the game is great!
They really gave Mercury (that sky is one of the prettiest visuals in the game), Titan and Mars all of the love. You can land on Pluto too, fyi. It's just another barren rock like Venus, though.
4:20 You need to take a trip to Taiyo Astroengineering with about half a million credits to get a space narwhal.
"Venus, Earth's Goth sister" i lost it...🤣🤣🤣
Genuinely cool video
1:26 as funny as it is, its also 100% true. except the dog is sort of a bred animal. but as an alien you could definitely have landed a rover to take a picture and see a pooping elephant , earth is absolutely unique not just in our own solar system
Got to be honest, as much as I love this game, they did solar system dirty! It was the area I wanted to explore the most before launch, now.. I barelly visit there.
I love when habie uploads
i have travelled to several random planets with forests and have yet to see a river or even creek cutting through a landscape. it’s kind of strange actually how little water there is on any of the planets. i know there are coasts you can visit but those are next to unexplorable oceans. i just want to wade through a river or play in a creek
i saw some rivers and creeks
@@Pizzarolles_. that’s cool to hear, i guess i just need to keep exploring then
You can swim in the game, you just can’t go under the water. If you go eridani II in eridani system, that planet is exactly like planet reach from halo, and has all that and more what you want. Bottom left of the star map 🤞🏻
@@jimmynimbus757 that’s cool but im talking less about the curated planets that have been obviously hand crafted and more about the random ones you stumble upon. like while exploring the mysterious procedurally generated planets i have yet to find one with interesting water features. they’re mostly just rocky hills with either a few different trees sprinkled around or desolate barren wastes
@@dingus2k none of the planets are random though, these are planets in a part of our Milky Way
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I am from Europa,
can confirm life is spreading here.
I love Starfield, don't get me wrong. But the thing I was looking forward to most was exploring the solar systems worlds. Albeit I did, they were just copy and pasted from all the other planets in the game. With Mars being the exception, it was rather disappointing. (I also would've preferred the moon to be more bland)
The John spartan bit killed me 😂
Venus isn’t yellow-green enough. I want the in-game atmosphere to feel like sulfuric acid seething into my spacesuit
they should make it so that if you dont get to shelter on venus' surface your space suit melts with you inside of it and kills you
Oh man, that is so cool how they did Titan well. I know where I'm going next time I play.
They didn't lmao
Wanna know what's worse? There's concept art in the game of Io where it is volcanic and there's sulfur and crap spewing everywhere
That suucks HAAAARD
"There's no piss, where's the piss?" gold(pun intended)
Starfield reminds me in a way of StarFlight if anybody played that game back in the 1980's
2:50 that, we need more dunes on a desert planet.
'I almost didn't put it in'- habie147
Habie ignoring Uranus and Neptune is just like NASA in real life. They say we have 8 (9?) planets, but they focus on Earf cuz potential asteroid death, Mars because possible life, Jupiter cuz big and possible life, ans Saturn cuz pretty and possible life. Mercury, Venus, and the blue bois get forgotten :(
Honestly they might be pretty and blue but they have near zero interest scientifically. They're giant, dead, frozen balls of gas.
Hey, you shouldn't even BE on Europa. The Monolith said so:
"All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there."
I feel that cold
Been dying to one this last week myself thanks for the great vid
Nono you are correct, Io is the most volcanic location in the solar system, right after IO comes Europa with its Cryovolcanos spewing out now frozen to snow and chunks of ice. However what really hits the the wrong way is the planet neon is on. You cant dive in the game, and there are no waves. The place is a Panthalassic Planet or an ocean Planet that is 100% covered in ocean. Its like the world in Subnautica BUT EVERYTHING is underwater (its really cool). I was expecting to be landing in water, using the ship to go thru water. Meet horrible sea monsters and be traumatized by the uninmaginable horrors that just simply swim in the ocean. Instead we got 1 landing spot because you cannot land anywhere else, 2 kinds of peaceful fish. And a place that is called a sort of "Trade Hub" for the setteled systems that has not only a Wholefully undersized Spaceport but the entirety of neon i undersized.
You telling me the place wasnt expanded in the past 100 Years? I was expecting Hydrofarms, Docks, Lighting rods everywhere, Underwater areas, you name it. Imagine Motherbase but there are structures on the water aswell!
... And a way bigger spaceport. Also new Atlantis is tiny for supposedly being THE capital of the united colonies. Housing presumeably a majority of people evacuated from earth before its exodus. I kinda was expecting some sci-fi "suburbs" alongside a tall corporate centre that we got. Whoever is gonna expand each town (exept Akila City ... Akila City feels genuinely real for its size due to the setting (extremely dangerous predators everywhere) plus its Space Whiterun so it gets a pass by me) is gonna have a fieldday with each. (Lots of work)
9:14 waltuh, what are you doin waltuh?
another banger habie. love it
Wouldn't titan EXPLODE the second an ignition source (engines, flames) was entered? Or does the nitrogen keep it from just becoming a mini sun?
I doubt it considering that titan's atmosphere lacks enough oxygen to create a combustion reaction
Combustion is an oxidation reduction reaction. For the nitrogen in the atmosphere to combust would require an Oxidizer. On Earth most materials will oxidize readily with Oxygen at high enough temperatures. On Titan there is little to no oxygen, the atmosphere is pretty much homogeneous so there’s nothing else for the nitrogen to react with to cause combustion.
@@cd5927 gotcha, thank you.
I was honestly shocked when I landed on Io to see what they'd done to it. Pluto was also rather disappointing based on how it looks in the New Horizons photos, though I'm not entirely sure how it'd compare when you factor in colour correction and how things would look at ground level.
Dude literally the same thing happened to me and my family last week, we were all just stuck on the couch in just pure misery
For a moment there I was worried when I realized there was no Atomic Brains section in the middle of the video. I thought history was being made.
Can't wait for the Lore Friendly Solar System Mod