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TYRE AND WHEEL RIM CHOICES | BUILDING THE BEST 2-PERSON OVERLAND TOURER IN THE WORLD | 4xOverland
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- I choose and fit the wheels and tires for new hero Toyota Land Cruiser Troopcarrier.
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When you say that wide tyres don’t have any advantage, do you mean for overlanding? For overlanding in Australia? I guess they have advantages on certain terrains, like sand or snow. Don’t they? I’ve arrived from three weeks in Iceland and I was totally shocked by the absolutely massive tyres A LOT of 4x4s have over there. I suppose that might be somehow justified and that it is not only a trend. What do you have to say? Thanks!
I've noticed that folks that don't want to chop out their fender wells and the like or go for big lifts like narrower tires. Skinnier tires can be taller and still tuck up inside your fenders when you're flexing. Aired down, a skinnier taller tire will actually still have a larger footprint than a wider, shorter tire. They have less rolling resistance, more downward bite, they steer better in the front at least. Even most mud boggers I know like the narrow stuff, but when you get into man-made mudholes, or the snow in Iceland, your skinny tire will probably sink up to your axles or over the hood of your car before you reach the actual ground. Skinny's also take up less room and weigh less. I think wide tires are popular because so many people run aggressive, wide mud tires on their full size trucks and they will be drive on pavement whereas narrow tire feels a little more squirmy. I find that the normal width wide tires seen almost trucks spin out less easily on pavement and feel more stable
Here in Iceland we have the same dilemma. Over all hight is always king to float on snow but then you have arguements that skinny tires work better on light jeeps with litte power and wide for the others. But most agree and talk about how high tires they choose. F.x. for long highland or glacier trips 38 inch is standard on light pickups, 44-46 inches on medium size jeeps and 54 inches for the heavy american trucks.
But with tires like that we can let them down to even 1 psi and then the jeeps footprint on the snow will get lighter then a humans.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
Chicks love my 285 tyres stance so am for wide all the way 😅😅
Wider tyres perform worse on sand than a narrower tyre, it's the bigger outside rolling diameter that makes the better performance on sand by making a longer foot print.
Would have gone for a 235/85r16 on the original steel rims.
255 85 r16 All day, my 76 loves them. Maybe if you start using them your influence will assist in more places carrying them.
Still not common in the outback though. So he could find himself in a dilemma.
Popular demand could fix this... I'm pretty sure many people want 33s that are not too wide.
They are hard to find even in the states. Though the Toyota crowd is the primary user of them even in the US as the 255/85 allows a Tacoma or 4 Runner to fit 33s with only a 2 inch lift with no fender rub, the 285/75 size requires some cutting in the wheel well to fit without rubbing even with up to a 4 inch lift. And the Tacoma and 4 Runner are by far the most popular overlanding vehicles in the US.
@@mrvwbug4423 Defender enthusiasts also rate them highly.
@@mrvwbug4423 It gets discussed in the Xterra groups as well. We can fit 285 without a lift (barely) although most thrown 2 inch lift. But there is a growing group who swear by 255s, and I'm sure more would consider it if they were more available (myself included).
Wow! That blue colored Troopy with those wheels is outstanding!
I guess its just me but I find 90% of aftermarket wheels to be be downright tacky or ugly. I actually like the look of the basic steel dish wheel.
look up the Rotiform STL.
@@cromulentparty Yeah, I like em. Forged aluminum is great but $1100 per wheel is steep (for me, anyway)
I agree. Something about them just looks right on the Cruiser in Grey. I'm actually widening mine to 8 inch for the next set of tyres.
It's not just you.
Same, and in fact the tyres aren’t bad either. I’ve never seen Andrew in a situation where such aggressive tyres are absolutely essential, never. So the normal tyres are fine.
To be honest, I am disappointed with those rims. They look like they belong on a Ford Ranger. I would have gone steel 100%
Yes, totally agree. They look a little juvenile on the troopy.
@@gofaroverland7854 Also agree, a bit too "bling" for the build. Please Andrew no chrome accents next! 🙃
True! Steelies and then tall and thin. Those wheels looks bling bling. But hey they're free. If he had paid for I'd unsubscribe 😂
Just wrong on the troopy .
Yes to all these comments…..the stock tyres and rims are perfect. “Performance” isn’t necessarily tied into a wider tyre.
Standard is easier to replace..... I like my Toyota alloys. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Love your work
I also follow "the road chose me". It's very interesting the two different approaches to overlanding. Here you are taking off steel and replacing with alloy and he is taking off alloy and replacing with steel.
@@conloubser you don’t feel Andrew does “real overlanding”?
Could have kept the stock rims + 235/85r16. Thin and tall, common size, same size as you have now.
Needs to come up with an excuse to fit the fancy alloys he's been given.
Watching this video and reading through these comments is great to see 255/85s have an appreciation. I'm tossing up between sticking with 235/85 or going with the 255s next round.
If you've got a Troopy, they are a really good size. I think they are a couple of mm taller than the OEM tyre size of 225/95. Speedo gets marginally more accurate. And when you air down you get a really good long footprint.
Thank you for carefully describing the nature of your relationship with ROH and Falken. It gives your channel much more credibility than if you had skirted over that or even concealed the nature of the deal. It's not a minor thing either - around $4k for the 5 wheels and tyres I expect.
Having it explained properly as part of the video, not a footnote hidden in tiny print, and knowing he approached them because he rated them, rather than he's put them on cos they were free, makes a big difference. It's why when people suggest he start taking proper promotions on I baulk. Can you imagine a Manscaped promotion in one of his videos?
@@j3652 I remember watching one of Andrew's vid a few years back regarding sponsorship, it was quite entertaining pity UA-cam has hidden it now...
@@j3652 you can’t just say because he rated them. You have to qualify that term. Rated them highly for example. Because I often rate things too, but rate them poorly. Using the term rated must be suffixed with qualification as to how they are rated.
It’s like rated recovery points. Useless term on it’s own without the rating stated. They might be rated to only 1000kg and therefore be useless. A toweye is rated, but not for a snatch recovery. I wish people knew how to use English.
@@jerrymyahzcat it's quite clearly a common usage, and it's meaning is clear, as demonstrated by the fact you have told me how you think I ought to have phrased it. Why take the time to post this?
@@j3652 it’s not a common usage. It’s only recently become an incorrect way to say what you really mean.
The blue and black is really nice on the Troopy. Really old-school cool look.
This tyre/wheel combination falls in an aesthetic category that will win the hearts and praise of South Africa’s finest Brannas enthusiasts
Honestly.. those simple grey steelies look the best!
Awesome rims. My Ranger had these ROH Vapours and now ordered a set for my new Y62 Patrol.
I agree with a lot of the other comments about 255/85r16 tyres, these are a far better option for overlanding than a 285 or 265. I think this is a size that should be getting a lot more attention. The height and track width of the tyre accompanied by an elongated footprint make it superior to the wider options. Just look at what the army and emergency services use for real offroading. . .definitely not wide tyres.
The army and emergency does not do hard off roading because there is no logic for them to do that. it is also price and breakdowns calculated.
Makes me feel good, I choose 255/85-16 yokohama muddies for my 100 series. I'm in the states and most guys frowned upon my narrow tire choice, as wide mud tires on lifted trucks is the nom around here. However the yokos have a nice square profile and grip tenaciously on rocky terrain so far.
I don’t think Andrew likes the Yokos for some reason.
I was in exactly the same dilemma for my Troopy build. Really wanted to stay with skinnier tyres after years of 235/85s on Defenders.
I ended up with 255/85 on 16" alloys and I think they are excellent. I went BFG KM3 mud tyres because you can't get a KM2 all Terrain in 255/85, sadly.
I'm only going with 1 spare. Have done thousands of Kms outback carting around 2 spares and never needed both. So I guess, watch me need 2 spares sometime in the near future having said that.
We did the Border Track last week (on the SA/Victoria border) and it was as wet and muddy as. Tyres were fantastic. Lots of confidence. Other vehicles slipping around like mad but the 255/85 KM3s made it look easy.
Cheers - David
I was up that way playing in the mud a couple of weeks ago too. Same size tyres but Yokohama Geolandar MT G003 on my Defender having lots of fun. They seemed to clear the clay mud better than my previous muddies & it's good to hear the KM3s do the same as a mate is gonna buy them for his Defender 👍
I think 255/85 16’s are perfect on Landcruisers. Nice and tall but not too wide, fit on a 6-8” rim perfectly.
I absolutely love them and the gearing is good, often correcting the speedo.
I have two sets of Bfg’s and a set of Yokohama’s and am very happy with both , also had a set of Cooper ST’s in the same size years ago.
@@4x4touring47 Around White Springs Lookout is also a pretty good spot for mud if you want to play a bit. Hasn't been dug out by the 37" players yet & there's a decent camp there that doesn't get too soggy in the wet. Quick bailout to the Murrayville pub too if needed 😀
@@4x4touring47 The road in from Pinnaroo was deadly slippery. We did it in pouring rain and had a couple of vehicles sideways in a ditch. Once we got to the sandy parts it was good going. A lot of the really big bog holes have get-around tracks on the side, so you don't need to submerge your car if you don't want to (I didn't).
Car weighed about 50Kg more at the end of the track. Sticky sticky mud. Needed an hour of Karchering to get it clean again.
@spudboy1328 I have a 09 hilux with the standard 225/75R16 and 2” lift. I don’t want a wide tyre and was thinking of going 235/85s for that higher profile. Did you like them on your defender?
Personal choices, but having spent many miles travelling around Afghanistan I would insist upon a steel wheel rim for reliability and reparability factors. 7.50r16s or 235/85r16 are the only tyre choices for quick resupply.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't understand Aluminum rims for off road vehicles.
You read my mind. Even aesthetically, the blue/gray steelies looked really good on the troopy.
guys remember that this is his business too. He needs to make deals with suppliers. It is not only about what works best
Problem is he will drive on pavement half the time and he isn't being shot at. Wieght I'd his number 1 concern
This vehicle will be going to outback Australia, not Afghanistan, and with one spare you can get to the next town where LandCruiser rims are plentiful. Alloy rims are actually stronger overall believe it or not just can't be repaired track side, but are also lighter. Overall they actually are better, unless you are days away from access to replacement rims for your vehicle.
I 100% agree Andrew I too prefer skinny tall tyers. The other 32" tyre would have been 235 85 16 .
235/85r16 is what I‘ve personally run and continue to run. And only paired with steel rims for trackside repairs and reliability.
Nice choice. I run KO2’s in 265/75 R16 on 16x7” steelies. They work for me.
Running 255/85 R16 Yokohama Geolandar MT G003 on my Defender & it's an awesome size & tyre choice. No worries from me on taking it remote as modern construction tyres can cope with the outback as long as you look after them. Been all over with them, probably on tougher tracks than I've seen Andrew on, with no dramas at all so unless you're forging new tracks don't stress about availability.
You still rate these tyres? Cheers
@@petergallagher1825 Yep, still going strong after many trips to the Vic High Country, deserts including the muddy sections & countless corrugations. You have to air down a bit further than you think on soft sand as the sidewalls are so strong they don't elongate so easily, but they still perform excellently when you do. No air loss issues & wearing evenly so far with rotations every 5000km or so. Couldn't rate them higher tbh 👍
Dear Andrew, I purchased BF Goodrich 285/75/17 ( AT )for my nissan patrol few years back they never let me down, I got them because you had them, and you were happy with them thanks mate!
I was so hoping for 255's 😢 Great Vid anyway Andrew looks good cheers ..
Very nice choice. They look really good.
I like how you have explained your thought process and how you have drawn your conclusions.
I also have these ROH viper rims, but I purchased them for a different reason, which I has not been discussed anywhere online I can find. My choice was to do with the GVM rating on a rim! When you have a GVM upgrade on a 79 series the GVM on the standard tyres are not legally rated for that weight upgrade. I enquired after the fact back to my suspension upgrade store, and they researched it and found this to be correct. In hind sight the store is now having to upgrade rims with there suspension upgrades to comply with Qld Law. Like the Rhino rack load rating Saga, I think this is a topic that could be raised through your channel.
Cheers.
Interesting choice, I've just put Toyo open country 265 x 70 x 16 on my D22 (the tyres are now worth more than the ute) I wanted 75 profile but was worried it would rub (standard suspension starting to sag, they would be fine on a better suspension) and a lot more expensive. They handle quite nicely. It's been very wet here lately and I haven't lost traction once on the blacktop. Only had them off road once and handled it fine although the corrugations did upset the wheel balance. Road noise is there but OK with the radio on.
I just got that tire in 75 profile, they look nice. No rubbing on my 4runner.
Black and Blue looks awesome!! Love the rims nice choice 👍 I’m a Toyo guy but any 3-ply MT deserves a that’a boy
I love the Toyota grill! I have Falken Wildpeak AT3W (285/70/17) on my FJ Cruiser, super quiet and very very good road handling. Glad to see Andrew recommending the brand.
Yikes, im not sure about that blue. You can never go wrong with the sandy color.
I run a Cooper STMaxx 255/85 16 and love them, surprised you didnt mention that one.
Cooper may not have offer free tires. I run 285/70/R17 Micky Thomson on my LC200
Don't worry, he will be wrapping it soon anyway. I preferred his original choice of colour as well
I love the blue! And absolutely loathe the sandy. Hahaha. Complete opposite 😅 colours are too subjective
Shoo! That's the best wheels you've had. Didn't think they would but they match perfectly and really compliments the blue... If you keep that colour.. or any other blue
Andrew, I like how you articulate the reasons exactly why you chose the wheels & tires! I like the black and blue build. I notice now more recently your builds have very specific reasons for the equipment, upgrades etc. based on efficiency and experience. This requires "out of the box " thinking which many sometimes don't go along with or understand.
He 'chose' them because they were freebies from ROH and Falken. He walked past what he openly says is the 'best' size (255/85) because Falken did not make them available in Australia. He is a sell out.
Looks mint and the blue is such a nice colour.
Falken Japanese, huge,HUGE manufacturer.
I love how honest you are in your videos. Im glad to have an opinion from you on those tires. Im on my second set of km3 tires and i love the offroad mud tractiom but agree that the road noise is up there. Ill give those falkens a try next. Ive had my eye on them anyway. 🤙
Hi guys 7.50r16 XZL Michelin is the best tyer ive had and outperforms every thing else off road.
Really pumped for this series Andrew! Congrats on the new Rig.
Agree the best tyre is a 255 85 R16. I am driving an ex Army Land Rover 110 (“Perentie”). Was running a set of 265 75 16, but found them just a fraction too small (I was dragging my diff, when all my mates running 255 85 16 weren’t), so went up to Maxxis Bighorns in 255 85 16. Great tyre, but went through them pretty quickly. Been searching for a new set for about 6 months now at the right price. The only decent ones I have found are BFG KM3, Toyo Open Country MTs, and Yokohama Geolanders. As a result of them being rare, they are pricey. Around $350 to $400 a corner. Lucked out and found a set of Yokohama Geolanders for $265 a corner in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago. Stoked.
On the matter of narrow vs wide: I've owned a succession of Land Cruisers and Land Cruiser-adjacent vehicles in Namibia, and I've always sworn by something in the neighbourhood of 7.50r16. This is clearly a little narrower than what's being discussed here, but they've always proven to be utterly reliable and robust.
thats the equivalent stock tyre size on all 70 series here in australia.
I think narrow and tall is almost always better in all conditions.
For sand, less rolling resistance for the same contact patch as wide tires. 🙂
I think it was a really good choice, love the look, can't wait to see what you are up to next. Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
Looks good. I just made the mistake of using a 9” rim when an 8” would have been perfect.
The closest thing we have in the us to a troops is the land cruiser and everyone uses 8”wide wheels on those. I have an old surf with the same size wheels and tires.
This build is a beauty.
Love the black and blue
Gwyn is right the blue is amazing
I do love those falkens! Think I might have to go with them instead of my bfg at2’s
I had a mate in my old 4wd club that used 255's on his 40, he absolutely loved them, but he so often had to run them well past the point of replacement because they were so hard to get hold of.
I went with 285's on my rig, mainly because they are such a common size, and I feel I could safely get my hands on one anywhere I go.
They look awesome and bloody hell didn't cost you a cent, what more could you want.
Once again Andrew clear information and I now can say I’ve chosen my next set of tyres, thank you.
265/75/16 is exactly what I run on my 100 series Land Cruiser. They are a wonderful size so far and built by Michelin which is far and away the best manufacture in my very humble opinion.
The 265s look spot on on the troopy Andrew, perfect size, and the 235 85s also.
loving the black and blue contrast, really nice look so far.
look forward to the build as always 👌
Put some good year's wrangler duratrac's on it! They look great and they're great on the trails and for overlanding! I have them on my jeep jk, and its been 2 years and a half with them, and they still performing and looking great. Way better than my old bfg's! I would also stick with the steel rims! Steelies suits your truck way nicer.👌😎👍
@@Adam_Rosenberg91 duratrac's are fantastic would of got them for my 110 but couldn't get the size I wanted in the uk so went for BFG at's
Damn, that's nice Andrew.👍 My Dad had Falkien Wildpeaks All weather 3 peak snow rated ATs on his last Dodge Truck and we were really impressed by them. Unlike the KO2s I put on my truck. Those tires don't deserve their snow rating and IMO are dangerous on wet pavement. I've had them get squirrely on wet curves never mind how terrifying they could get on ice. They were just fine in the snow though but ice is the issue in winter, not snow.
I put Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S 285/65r17 truck tire on my truck and quit like them. Yes, not a mud AT but I have to deal with ice and snow and so the tires have to have snipes/swipes? Anyway, I'll never put an MT on my truck again. These are fantastic all-weather off-road tires for where I live. Not as strong off-road as KO2s but not terrifying to drive in the wet or on ice either. In fact, I'd say only a dedicated snow tire would be better and not by a lot and these are fantastic year-round.
The All-weather technology is fantastic. 100K KM tread warranty with non of the dangers of snow tires in milder months.
Note, I'm not hitting hard off-road trails (especially alone) anymore due to my paralyzed leg so any issues due to needing MTs is not that much of a factor anymore
Also, I watched all the Duster Trails videos of them testing these tires. Easily convinced me to dump the awful KO2s (which they tested against) and considered All-weather tires like these or the Toyo Open country AT2s or Falkien Wildpeaks. Their terrain is similar to what I usually drive in and they made good points about how to offroad with them.
Note I was siding to the Toyo's but availability and cost drove me to try the Coopers. I'd have to drive to another city for the Toyos and they were almost twice the cost. I could have eaten the cost but I wanted tires from a local dealer in case I had issues. With the Falkiens it was the weight. I have to do a lot of long-distance driving in Saskatchewan and my truck is my everyday driver. I talked to the installer of my tires and I wasn't ready for that kind of hit on my mpg. Not with today's gas prices. Haven't gotten a puncture in 2 years through sloppy fields and river trails so I'm ok with the Coopers. They've come a long way in 20 years.
Another plus one on the falken wildpeak, great tyres
Changes the whole look of the vehicle.
Great video, it's great these suppliers provide you with items like these, to me it's a great exercise is fit for purpose, I run 18x8 methods with 285/65/18 and I chose a +25 offset so it's fattens the car up, and this is the opposite of fit for purpose ha ha, I just like the lighter rim, less unsprung weight, which again is pointless except its nice on the black stuff. I enjoy reading the comments of your followers as you have a great bunch of subscribers that are informed and engaged. Nice one!!!!!!
I have 265/75/16 on 6 inch rim, had them for 2 years, done all sorts of stuff, 0 problems.
Love the Evocorse Dakar rims for off-roaders. Beautiful and very high quality.
I can't argue with your choices there. I run 265/75 R16 on GXL rims on my single-cab 79-series with 3900 GVM to carry my slide-on camper. These performed very well during our double crossing of Simpson Desert (Hay River Track and Madigan Line) in 2019. For 20 years I've been very happy with BFG AT tyres, but I'd like to try another set of MT tyres. Looking forward to your reports on the performance of the Falken MT tyres.
I am running a 285/70/17 KO2. I love them because they are easy to find
Those rims and tyres look fantastic
Gday Andrew love the videos keep it up, I’ve got a question for you. Why go 265/75 over your old troopys 235/85? Same size but are easier to source in remote areas and they have more sidewall, “nothing better than a troop carrier on skinnies”
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I just wish that beautiful vehicle was available all over the world ...
You and me both! I would love to get my hands on one of these.
i know that in Portugal and USA it's not...
Andrew, we have a Citroen 2CV in the UK which has been across the Sahara and Atlas Mountains. In my experience it's got to be steel. You can't hammer a dent out of an alloy!
If you are bending an alloy rim....your problem is not the rim, you are the problem
@@scavenom2008 not true at all, anything can happen and cause an accident to bent an alloy. Also if your only carrying one spare to save weight why not make the rims steel and just have that piece of mind that you can probably fix that rim
@@liamadams8647 what do you mean anything can happen? Any mistakes by the driver you mean? I'm sorry but that's just a bad idea to say things happen unexpectedly or through bad luck. You seem to forget alloy rims are much stronger than steel too and steel rims ca be fixed but it depends on the damage. One thing that I can tell you is that the type of damage that would bent a steel rim with the chance to fix it wouldn't bend or crack an alloy one. Now imagine yourself in the outdoors often even having to remove the tire to bend the steel wheel back in shape. People are better off being good drivers with something that can take some damage and not require fixing at all. The tire irons and steel hammers aren't light weight either.
@@liamadams8647 I am speaking from experience myself. Where do you off road I'm curious. What's your background or technical expertise?
The choice of wheels and tyres also plays a big part when it comes to vehicle weight.
What about 15" rims, would they fit?
Less alloy and more rubber. It also opens up the door to 33x12.50r15, which is everywhere, or 33x10.50r15, which is roughly the same size as a 255/85r16.
It would also allow you to run a 15x7" rim with the 33x.10.50r15 tyre, which would make for a very light combo. 7" wide rims would also make the tyre bulge a lot more.
Also, a more basic rim design with no fake beadlock could probably shave some weight.
With all this in mind, and after a little bit of research:
Example similar to current setup:
16x8" Method Race wheel with fake beadlock- 11.56Kg.
255/85r16 Bfg Km3 - 26.76Kg.
Weight of 1 wheel - 38.32Kg.
Weight of 5 wheels- 191.6Kg.
Weight of 6 wheels - 228.62Kg.
A lighter 15" example:
15x7" American Racing AR23 - 7.71Kg.
33x10.50r15 Bfg Km3 - 25.71 Kg.
Weight of 1 wheel - 33.42Kg.
Weight of 6 wheels - 200.52Kg.
That's 5Kg/wheel savings, 20Kg of unsprung weight .You can almost run 6 15" wheels for the weight of 5 16" wheels.
I'm actually running 15"x8 wheels forged mag with 33x12.50 MT on my 62 series, no complaint, been giving them heaps too, the only thing is that the load carrying capacity and max pressures is less than on 16" tyres of the same quality, I always wonder why that is?
This title really does my head in. This will be your third go at a Troopy in a row dude.... I wouldn't call any of your previous efforts worthy of such a title either. Here we go, just bolting stuff on from a catalog again...... Can't wait for the epesode where the spare wheel gets bolted inside the Toymoto.....
Thats just cosmetics, Andrew does all the hard graft and the tecnical stuff, The other vehicles were good and the 2nd Troopy was right up there, The last Troopy never had a failure and not a single pucture, It survived all the Serious miles/Ks the Outback has to offer and he lived in it for a few months totally un-Aided, So what else is needed from a Vehicle when it has performed flawlessly, ?
@simplerefinedliving yes from someone with such a backstory, you would think he would know what he was doing by now, but it seems not. Pretty sure I mentioned in comments about the 255 tyre size a few years back for Troopys, now taken on board. I'd recommend Cooper tyres which dont seem to get a mention. Should do my own videos probably.
Good video. I put Wildpeak AT3s on my rig and they’ve been the best tyres I’ve owned. Still an aggressive tread, however perform like a road tyre on the bitumen and wet. Enjoy the new wheels and tyres - they look great. Cheers Mark
Excellent Choice of Rims & Tyres Andrew. Bring on the rest of the build.
In my opinion I would have stuck with the steel rims. Not for any logical reason, I am just a sucker for them! 😉
I think they may be heavier? This is a ultra-light build
Those silver blue rims from NZ looked great.
Great video! I’m in the process of changing tires on my 5th Gen 4Runner. Decided to go with Falken Wildpeak AT3W 255/80/17 from the stock size on a 2” lift (2”on rear and 2.25” on front).
Came from a D110 with 235/85’s and they were fantastic off-road so looking forward to these new tires on the Toyota. Overall weight being added was a big factor in my decision making process.
As a Jeep man and not a fan of Toyota at all....I must say that is one sharp looking vehicle!
Ive got toyo open country mt 255-85-16 on my 76 with a dual spare and love them took less than a day for my local shop to get them in for me
255 85 16 Cooper MAXX, 10 ply light truck tyres made in usa. You’re welcome!
The blue Truck and black wheels looks really good
I just went up from stock to the 265/75 R16 on my Toyota Tacoma TRD off road, stock 8” wide wheels. Love the set up. Considered the 255/85 R16 but was just a bit too much with no lift. I went with the Goodyear Duratracs as I wanted something a bit more aggressive, but not full on mud terrains.
Put the original wheels back on, those new ones look like ya having midlife crisis.
I know many would disagree, and I do understand the benefit of a lighter alloy rim, but i really liked the steel rims, i think with that shape body, they look best. Its weird, for a long time I always preferred the look of alloys, but now, steel rims get my attention first. Thanks for the content Andrew.
Best of luck with the Vapours. I have them on my 200 series, they look great but they do tend to hold mud/sand on the groove around outside of the wheel. They go out of balance very quickly
I have just been through the same experience. I decided to change the rims on my Hilux for asthetics and went with the ROH Hammers, to be shod with 265/65 R18 BFG Ko2's. On my new Prado I've opted for some CSA wheels running 275/65 R18 Ko2's.
Always very critical the right choice of rims and tires. Greetings from Spain. 👍🏻😷👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The Rims look great, nothing wrong with 265/75r16’s , I LOVE my General Grabber X3 (m/t) 265/70r16’s , zero issues with lots of punishment under load, way better than my Bf km3’s or the Copper stmaxx before them.
Loving the look of the blue trooper.
Good episode - glad to see your new build and excited to see what you do to save weight! Question 4U: So if you went with a 32” tire, why didn’t you go 235/85R16, which is also very common, and also a skinny? You could have run a 16x7” rim and done the 235/85 or bumped up an inch to the 255/85. I feel like the 265 is on cusp of being too fat.
IMO, the rims you chose seem too SoCal to me - I personally would have gone with either a D-window steely or an 8- or 10-hole aluminum rim. But with bar work, decals, and some dirt, the wheels will probably grow on me.
Looking forward to your next build video - thanks!
265s will do ya perfect. I have 265/70 r17s muddies on my FJ cruiser and have kept up with my mates with big GQs and 100 series on 33s even before I got the lift. Eventually going to 285s for the extra clearance and grip, plus I love the look of bigger chunky tyres hehe.
I looked for a while for something tall and skinny for my Disco2 .. I ended up with Dick Cepek Extremes 255/85r16s and I only have 1 spare. My idea was to get a camper and put the same wheels on that and then I could have 2 extra spares. Some other options I found were the BFG KO2 33/10.5r15 (couldnt find a 15x8 in 5x120 and the correct offset) and the Kenda A/T in 35/10.5r17 and 33/10.5r17 (I had already got 16inch wheels when I found these sizes).
Another thing I have is some big patches for mining truck tyres , which if I had to, I could bust a bead and put it in the inside over a puncture (if I had to). I think the biggest one I got would be similar size to a desert bowl
After about 450000km outback in 70 series LandCruisers with various tyre sizes from 31's to 35's, the 255/85r16 on a 7" rim, is the best for a 70 series. I used to carry two spares, now I carry one and sometimes a carcass. I've fixed many punctures, just none of my own.
Excllent explnation
I watch you channel regularly and love it. A lot of your statement are profound very helpfull. Australia is heaven on eath for 4WD lovers and equipment. Here in Europ we are more and more restricted. But with your rims you argue on a very high aesthetic level. I remember once telling you the first criteria for "basic" equipment should be at fist allways "functionality". Offroad the rims will be dirty - that's part of the deal ! Shiny bling bling is only for the town or promotion. That is of course your daily bussiness. Please back to the "roots" !
We run the Falken Wildpeak AT3 255 80x R17 on the MC Ranch Overland Tacoma. Skinny and tall and we find them absolutely exceptional.
good stuff i am going to select my next set of tyres by going narrower and slightly higher.
Andrew, I was thinking about your tyre size choice. I’m running the same size, 265/75/16 on a dmax. When you go 255/85/16 with 2 spares, What is the odds of having to replace these tyres when you out in the bush? If you really have to get to that point of emergency, just put 2 x 265/75/16 on to get you back home. Then you can sell those 2 tyres on social media, and get the 255’s again.
Just a thought… The 33” will look nicer on a troopy when you lift it
265/75/r18 is stock for patrol/armadas , so it was an easy choice for myself.
I run 10ply Es on my frontier 235/85/16 on OEM wheels. Factory size was 265/75 They said the more narrow tire would help with turning, I didnt notice that. Didnt seem to change MPG either. I like the way these look and I love having 10ply
6 x White ROH Trak 2 steel rims with 265/75R16 or 235/85/R16 BFG KM3 on the Troopy. Fit a Bull bar, scrub bars, pack rack, winch and spotties. Job done. Load up then go bush mate.
I had 16 x 8 with 285, now I have the stock 79 series non split rim skinnies on my 76 series, but before we go on our trip, I'll be using my current 16x6 steel wheels with the Toyo 255 85 16. It's the goldilocks of tyres. I'll carry two spares on big trips, plus a trailer with same tyres and a one spare on the trailer.
It's already been said, but if you influencers started using the 255, maybe they'd be easier to get?
Totally agree with you, while watching the video I am really hoping he will choose the 255/85R16 because I know this is the perfect size for off road and Andrew will influence a lot of people to look for this size hence tyre dealers will have the confidence of stocking them and eventually tyre manufacturers will increase production of this size.
Steven, the approved rim size for your Toyo 255/85 are 6.5" up to 8", so your current 6" rims are too skinny. You can get 105 series 6.5" rims which will take the 255 perfectly.
@@philg2468 or can just be a trend setter and get them on 6" rims. They fit fine. Work well, don't come off the bead. What's 1/2" between friends anyway. Only 6mm each side.
They look good
I decided to mount 295/70R18 after have 33"×12.5R18 for 80,000 miles. I have to say I think the 295/70R18 are perfect size for my F150
Just watching now, and I do like those rims, nice, now for the tyres.
I running 265/75s on 16 rims...and they offroad great and don't look like clown shoes. Love the stock steelies.
265/75 on 6" rims are outside the legal limit. If there is an insurance claim and they found out, they would have grounds not to pay.
@@4xoverland always 33"s over 35"s?
Good choice. Really nice looking to boot.