Take Ctrl - Keychron Q60 Max
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- A review of the Keychron Q60 Max Keyboard. It uses the HHKB (Happy Hacking) layout which makes quite a few common sense improvements over traditional keyboard layouts.
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The explanation for the backspace/delete confusion: back in the days of typewriters and teletypes, the backspace key did exactly whar the space key did, except backwards (duh, right?). If you wanted to remove the last typed character, you had to use the backspace key to move the cursor or typing head backwards, and then do some action to actually remove the character; in the case of teletypes that was delete. Eventually people started to make the backspace key do backspace+delete, because that was the most common use case, and computer keyboards started to include arrow keys.
For "hackers" who like to use text editors such as Vim, by default you still get the old-stye backspace behaviour (which is exacly the same as the left arrow key), last I checked. However, most modern linux distributions change this default to have backspace behave "normally" in text insertion mode. Since the vim cursor motions are mapped unorthodoxically, that is a use case where backspace key can become less useful than delete.
I always bind capslock to Escape on tap and ctrl on hold. Makes it way more useful for that prime positioning and makes Escape easier to reach in vim, where you need it a lot.
this makes a ton of sense! before my split journey I had repurposed it as escape, I wish I would have had the foresight to use it as ctrl on hold as well
how did you implement that binding, I've been using control + c instead of always hitting escape to go into normal mode
I re-mapped Caps-Lock to Cmd too!!
For me, the caps lock key is just another layer key.
Control, Shift, Caps makes 3 layers I can use instead of simply 2 in most command setups.
I am one of the early customer who bought this non Bluetooth version of this keyboard, during their limited production run year ago. I mapped it exactly like the HHKB layout, Caps lock is on fun+tab. I wish keychron makes a cheaper plastic version of this for cheaper and can be easily carried in a laptop bag.
Backslash is very common in LaTeX too
ahh thanks I didn't know that!
I use caps lock while gaming a lot and sometimes while writing code, so I would to keep the key but swapping it with control would be a better experience
thanks for watching!
I was once told that some typists use the caps lock key rather than holding Shift to type capital letters. Apparently at high typing speeds Toggling Caps Lock on and off is more reliable than timing the the Shift key press
Wait… so can you change the settings to make the delete key work as a regular backspace key?
that's right - you can completely customize the layout to your liking, including replacing the delete key with a backspace key
should have definitely chosen banana switches for my new split keyboard
I'm not the target audience as I'm using chocofi, but I enjoy this video regardless. Thank you!
thanks! I'm a die hard split fan as well, but I can definitely still appreciate "closer to traditional" boards like this one ⌨️
Our Apple IIe from the 1980s had the same control key placement.
Regarding the backslash, I'm a Ruby developer in my day job but I've been playing around with other stuff (Node, Swift, and more recently, Rust). I don't use backslash very much when I'm on MacOS, but, particularly in Ruby, I use pipe a fair amount because it's how you delimit closure parameters, and closures are very common in Ruby. Also, it's obviously useful in shell commands.
i got used to the control being where the caps lock is thanks to the amiga keyboard. but years of PC keyboard forced me to change that habit.
tbh, i got used to 'palming' the control key so much that i actually need it in the normal place now. so i just look for keyboards that allow me to palm the control key easier.
their new lemokey looks pretty good, but the layout would interfere with my palm technique.
The following commands map the Caps Lock to behave like Escape if pressed once,
and as Control if combined with something else. Been using it for a while, it's pretty neat.
Give it a try
setxkbmap -option "ctrl:nocaps"
xcape -e 'Control_L=Escape' -t 175
Yeah caps lock is default to write querys for me... also I like comments in the code in uppercase, is just more visible. However I do see the point of having the control key there. IDK, this made think, perhaps switching control and caps lock makes more sense, will try that config on my keychron V1 and see
EDIT: Also, not a fan of not having backspace... This feels like a keyboard for very specific usage
It's the first thing that I do in every install, is to remap the useless caps_lock to control. I think I'm going to take this keyboard
nice - let us know how you like it!
I remap my K8 pro to have caps lock behave as two keys: escape on press and release and command on press and hold.
If you do like caps lock, just make it on the fn layer. Now fn + caps lock is caps lock and you can get more utility out of that key.
I'm interested in keychron's alice layout keyboard but it's an expensive bet, I'm not sure to like it. I had an ergo Microsoft keyboard a long time ago.
they look nice - especially if you're not willing to go columnar / ortholinear
You obviously don’t write papers with lots of mathematics or logic using LaTeX or the equation editor in Word. The backslash key is the prefix for all of the literally thousands of LaTeX codes for mathematical operators, symbols, and alphabetic characters (many of which Word has built into its equation editor). The placement and size of the backslash key on the happy hacker keyboard layout makes it a total dealbreaker for most LaTeX users. I suppose if I had to use one I’d remap the large Delete key to backslash and assign the usual backward-delete function to Ctrl-Delete.
I always remap capslock to backspace
backspace makes a ton of sense for this key - building off another comment, i wonder how a tap-hold configuration would work with backspace on tap and ctrl on hold... might work but might be risky for a frequently used key like backspace.
Vim users really need a caps lock key! At least we need a placeholder right there! Don't put Ctrl there plz😂
Hah because you remap it to escape? Or you really use caps lock for something?
is this emacs channel turning into a keyboard one.
lol nope - last keyboard video for awhile. I think.
It's surprising given your age that you don't seem to know where the happy hacking layout comes from, so...
It's a slight modification of a minimal office layout that has been around since the 80's, with one variant being the original Apple Macintosh 59 key model (no, of course they didn't invent this). Now, why did the copy the design and layout of the Macintosh variant specifically? For users who primarily write and do not operate in huge offices the original Macintosh was insanely popular in Japan, though for a reason that most English speakers won't have noticed. The primary one was the IME for Japanese typography was *much" nicer to use than the DOS or Windows versions. Other reasons are the whole system was small and quiet compared to most PCs, and early versions of MacOS were single task oriented, which allowed it to replace typewriters in the offices of professionals.
I have backspace on my capslock key
I use capslock instead of shift….
I use the caps lock key to insert uppercase umlauts like ÄÖÜ
On an actual hhkb there are pin switches on the back that hardware change the key functionality for delete to work like backspace. This keyboard price point is way too high imo. I've always wanted a non topre hhkb layout board, but because i want something cheap to take to work. This being priced $20 less than a classic hhkb is laughable. Should be a $100 board.
Yeah, but it is made of aluminum, has 2.4Ghz connection and is more customizeable.
If only the columns were columnar
I'm thinking about getting this for my boyfriend who's a computer engineer. Will the delete button ruin his typing experience? I personally love how it looks :/
Nice - I wouldn’t worry about the delete button. It can easily be programmed to be backspace instead of
@@codetothemoon thanks so much for your reply and review. This helps me so much!
trying to undo,copy,paste is awkward with that layout 😅
I'll stick with my regular layout...
interesting, i find them to be easier! of course there's a bit of an adjustment window, I found it to be great on the other side of that
It's actually easier and more comfortable to use than the default ctrl location, because you won't have to bend that much down left to reach the ctrl key. Sure, takes 3 days to get used to it, but then you'll notice the benefit.
I really hate 2-key layout switching, so using some 3-rd party software that allows me to bind the the layout to one single button for years or even decades, and that button is left Control. Can't imagine how to use Caps for this.