200 Gallons Of Fresh Water Capacity Installed In The Skoolie - Rear Platform Built
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Yes, I know. 200 gallons is over 1600 pounds of water. The rear axle is rated for 24k pounds.
Jim and I get to work on the water storage of the bus. More will come later, probably around 65 gallons, in the underbay storage Wess and I will do sometime in the future. Thanks for watching everyone!
Here is some bonus material of Jim & I discussing the water system plan - • Talking over water tan...
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Chris, I hate to tell you this, but you're overloading your bus with all that weight! You can trust me on this, I'm a certified professional internet keyboard expert. If you and Jim have any more questions on what you're doing wrong, I'll be glad to help. You're welcome.
Any other areas of expertise or do you specialize in mobile dwelling hydrokinetic gravitatational limitation?
Shane, I an egspert on spelling. Its "hydrokinetic gravitational limitation". I sure hope you refill your differential battery reservoir with that new headlight washer fluid.
I love the thermomass you will get from those tanks in the heated area in cold weather. Brilliant
Water is 8.34LBs Per Gal. I used to own a Chemical Manufacturing Company, we had to know this stuff for blending by weight. But the build looks GREAT!!!! Wish Yall the very best and God Bless Yall!!!
Every morning I check to see if Chris and Jim have posted! What content!!!! You guys are the best content providers around!
Thanks bud!
I agree that the weight is fine. the problem is the location - that much weight behind the rear axles can make the bus squirmy on the road. For a directional stability you want the weight as far forward as possible (yes I am an engineer). In addition, that much water sloshing around when the tank is half full could be "interesting". How has this worked out for you?
I'm guessing with the floor piping, water heater, etc.; you got 215 gallons x 8.34 or 1,793, say 1,800 pounds of water. Hope that tank has a dam in the middle to keep the water from sloshing back and forth or corners. It's hard work Chris, but it's coming along. Good work.
This looks very accurate to me, and I agree: 1800 pounds is simply NOT a problem. The worst sloshing would be if and when both tanks were half empty, so you'd have 900 pounds of water trying to get your attention. The thing is, that is only possible if you can whip that bus around like a small van. You MIGHT feel it when making 90 degree turns in town, but I'm just not sure how much effect 900 pounds can have on a 15 ton vehicle.
The slosh is called surge when moving forward and rearward. I hope they put in a crossover to self level the water from tank to tank, and to minimize 900 pounds more on one side than the other.
Your referring to baffles, yeah I agree ! maybe have the tanks independent from one another, so if you do run into problems you can always drain one or the other, don't know I am not experienced with this kind of stuff but sound like allot of weight and my concern would be if those tanks were half full that water sloshing around can cause some serious balance and stability issues , best of luck I hope it works out, worst scenario you're removing one tank and you can use that extra space for storage .
I drive a water truck for a living they won't notice 200 gallons sloshing around...
I like the idea of 200 gallon storage. Are there baffles inside the tanks. Haven driven smooth bore milk tankers, liquid sloshing around forward and backward and side to side is no joke. Only concern about weight is the concentration of the weight behind the axle. The bus certainly has the carrying capacity.
No babbles, time will tell!
Think about how much the passengers weighted who sat there with the seats installed. Well over a couple of tons. My only concern is are the tanks baffled to keep the water from sloshing back and forth when moving?
Thanks Chris & G for sharing another awesome construction video update. I
Thanks Apollo!
So about 1/2 of the radiant floor heating is under the water tanks and batteries and about 15 inches below the floor you'll be walking on .... not real sure you'll get much inside heating from that ! And looking for how you'll hook a water heater the flooring ?
Also it’s less about your axle holding 1600 lbs - that’s easy enough. But put some empty space in that tank and then jam on the brakes... When that weight has a bunch of momentum it doesn’t want to stop. Baffles in the tank help, but it’s still a scary amount of force.
If you want 200 gallons I would just mount multiple smaller tanks. Then just mergethem into main line with reserve switches this way the slosh factor jas a much smaller foot print since you will only be draininh pne small tank at a time.
don't worry about weight. only fill tanks completely when you go camp for extended times. no reason to carry excess weight around mountains and such. helps with fuel economy
I also HIGHLY suggest that you put Felt Paper on the bottom and sides where the tanks sit. That will help prevent the tanks from a hole being rubbed into a tank. You for sure want to make it where you can get the tanks out if a hole or crack does happen. Have seen it many times. Put in LOTS of Tanks. They can crack and holes come.
No way, no how would I have 20 gals of water inside the living area of an RV or bus much less 200. No uh huh uh. lol
Chris, the bus is looking more like home all the time. So looking forward to the finished product.
Chris it's going look great! Been following you since you lived in the van.💙🙏🌺 love those two people that are helping you. And they have great singing voices .
Wait is the radiant heating under the subfloor going to be covered by water tanks, and then another floor on top of that?
you have 2 wonderful people there helping you
its good you added the water tanks behind the CG . giving how fare back you move them well take some? lbs off the front tires . dont hid any errs. let us help you make sure there is no errs. dont guess with this . show us what tires you have so some of us can do some numbers, i did stuff like this for aiving for most of my life and from what i see you are starting to get to max GVWR real soon for your / tires / parking system/ towing . i am not a troll as i would come out there and help you and not afraid to say i am wrong
now it really becomes visible why the roof raise is so important - and why it is such an awesome upgrade …. very cool project ….
Hi Chris! Love your channel! We're in the midst of building out our skoolie and have chosen to go with two 100 gallon water tanks as well. One of the the contractors helping with the build is insisting we need baffles and/or that the weight is a huge issue. While we're 90% confident it will all work out, we figured we'd ask you about it. Now that you have the tanks in and are driving around with them, have you noticed any negative side effects from the water slosh?
Everything is looking great
I'm loving this build Chris! Keep up the solid work. shes gonna be beautiful but more importantly last a long time!!
Yah! fresh water tanks! 👋👍How long can you boondock on that much water? Kobuk just waiting to see where his food, water and bed are going to be😊. Great job guys! 😎👍
Progress on the bus is fantastic. You guys aren't cutting any corners. This is first class.
You guys do such a great job! I am already in love with this bus. Can't wait to see more!
A US gallon weighs 8.34 lbs, for a total of 1668 lbs of freshwater. This doesn't include your grey water tanks, another potential 200 gallons? Although I suppose that you shouldn't have both full at the same time.
A pints a pound the world around is how I remember the weight of water.,
Looking great keep up the good work
Did you guys put the water on top of the hot water pipes in the floor
Pretty smart easy way to heat the water = longer life for water heater
Is there any drain valve to drain and clean the water from the tanks? Is there an overflow sight or overflow drain to make sure it's full when filling? Can you capture rain water?
Jim is an amazing guy!!
One US liquid gallon of fresh water weighs roughly 8.34 pounds (lb) or 3.785 kilograms (kg) at room temperature.
I'm gonna do 200 gallons when I build a skoolie!
I'm going for a 600 gallon build
@@supersasquatchdid you ever do it?
Good job Chris and Jim!
sure dig the old school, get me some Jim
Nice quantity of water, I would appreciate as much as my chassis would bear too.. 1668 pounds fresh water NICE, Just equivalent to (17) *100 pound kids on a bus built for 72 people... I'm sure your bus can handle it. Black and Grey would have to be similar volume but one should always be empty when the other is full.. Great luxury to be able to carry that much water.. Not to mention the thermal mass that you are adding to store heat or cool energy .
Nice brother. So sorry I just found you. Funny tho I know Jim and Debbie some what. I was the one who helped them with there solar computer setup and few solar troubles. Your blessed to be working with fine peeps as them. For what it worth and this is from a guy who been in the alternative energy field for the beater part of 20 years. If you can find them use AGM batts if you have the cash go with lithium batteries. I love my wet cells and this set is 4 years old the past 15 years all I have had is wet. But now with how well lithium batteries work I will not be buying lead bats no more. Thanks for letting us be a small part. God bless.
Hey Bobby! If you need some extra work Ill pay you to help with some of the solar instal. Contact Jim or Debbie if you are interested :-) I am planning on using lithium :-)
Brother II would do it and do it for free but I just had colon surgery 3 weeks ago today and I would have to fly out there. I live in SC.. Sorry I can't help brother. Smart move on the lithium. Thanks for the offer. God Bless.
I wish I could have been there to help! A few times while I was waiting in lines at our event I was thinking about being there to play on Irma (and working through planning details on Penny too). Much love
They have that guy, they're good, no worries.
The world needs more people like Jim. You're both doing a great job.
Agreed!
Where did you purchase your tanks?
Looking great
I sere a great build coming along, this is going to be a fine Skoolie I am sure. I love to see the fiddly bits coming together. Now a question of I am allowed: Is the floor heating below some foam and two honking big water tanks? If so what is going to heat the rear of the bus?
👍🏻👍🏻 FANTASTIC ! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
2000 lbs is 10, 200 lb people. How many seats were back there? I think it might be ok...
Excellent vlog
Are there baffles in those tanks?
I enjoy the dogs doing photo bombs..
wont be long now, I can't wait! LOL
Respect.
Hey Chris, the bus is coming along very well! Sorry if you disclosed in a previous video, but what is your projected total cost and finish date? I really enjoy watching your progress, great job so far.
I'm enjoying watching the build. Are you going to install drains in the tanks? I know that after a couple of weeks the water in my tank get's a little stale so I drain, flush and refill my fresh tank regularly. When I am off grid I rarely run out of fresh water...my grey tank capacity is my limiting factor and in more and more places BLM is restricting dumping grey water.
Yep, that is the plan! I will be doing mostly grey water dumping locations or have a tow car to take it into town.
A pint's a pound the world around
Please forgive me if you may have covered this subject in the comments. How are you combining the tanks as a water source, and in the tank filling operation? gravity cross-connect? dual-feed into the pump(s)? Please let me know. Thank you, so much. - C
I am working on that now and will be posted within a week :-)
So meany things to think about!
Good update :)
Water is 8 lbs/gallon
A US liquid gallon of water weighs about 8.34 pounds or 3.78 kilograms. ;-)
At 25 degree celcius...
yep, I realize that. ;-) just making sure that someone else close to max may go over if they use the 6 lbs gallon noted in the video. cheers!
...just in case - water is about 8lbs per US-gallon....
Is it possible to put more then 200 gallon of water on the bus?
For almost four years I hauled 300 gallons of water daily with a half ton Ford pickup.
WATER IS 8 LBS PER GALLON
Water weighs 8.34 lbs per gallon
Water weighs 8.5 pounds per gallon
Great idea for the tanks! How big of a gray water tank will you have?
Does minimalism apply to the efficient use of materials?
This way, even in Alaska & Canada,
your potable water should NOT FREEZE up.
Especially if you have
A) Multiple-layers of FOAM beneath
B) Hydraunic UnderFloor Heating
C) Rear Bedroom Hot-Air (Diesel-Furnace) space heating.
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Q: Is you Grey-water also kept warm ?? Q2: Do you have any BlackWater tankage,
or is ALL of that dealt with with Composting (dry) toilet ?
Where would i get those kind of water tanks?
You never tell us how G is doing, will she come for a visit soon?
Hi I'm thinking about Investing in a skoolie. But I need alot of water in addition to normal life needs I do hair And wash many heads daily. My question is how much water do u think could b stored on a bus at once
What kind of plywood did you use for floors and walls?
It's actually 1650 lbs because water is 8.25 lbs per gallon plus the weight of your tanks but your bus can handle it.
a gallon of water is 8.34 pounds for a total of 1668 pounds
@@jgclark45 at least I got the math right! No excuses, just a terrible memory! Thanks for the correction!
the math is a little off
how much do the seats weigh and all the people in them
10 x 180 pound high school football players is 1800 pounds around the same as your tank... that’s only 5 seats worth of kids... I think you will be just fine... keep up the good work!
are there baffels in tank
Water weighs 8.34 lbs./ gal. Thats 1668 lbs. plus the tanks. I think the bus will ride better with the tanks full.
What does the bus weigh now? How much does Jim's bus weight?
I agree with Jim. I would take advice from the people who are out there building and living in these skoolies before some of us keyboard engineers. Do I remember correctly that the radiant heating runs underneath these tanks? If so, that should eliminate any concern of freezing.
Another way to look at it would be having 8 200lb kids in the back of the bus. Still think it will be over weight?
I don't think I'd worry what "somebody else" might say about your water tanks. I think Jim knows what the hell he is doing.
lot of water. - C
1 gallon weighs 8.3 pounds. 200 x 8.3=1660.
Wow,1669 pounds of fresh water.....
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this is one of the reasons i love metrics measurements, 1 liter of water is 1kg, ez math especially for a dumbass like me
Do the water tanks affect heated floor?
Nope, the tanks will be heated by them though.
200g of water weight is 1668lbs, but I do agree not much to worry about... 1 gal of water is 8.34lbs... cheers
It's best to keep the weight between the axles. Heavy load behind the rear axle will affect stability and may contribute to excessive "fishtailing" or loss of control.
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I can tell your getting anxious to get done with the build by the amount of safety shortcuts and lack of PPE I noticed. Please be careful.
Kobuk seems mopey/sad - he ok?
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he needs some special play time w/Chris.
200 Gallons (be aware U$A uses a "SMALL" Gallon (Smaller than the rest of the Planet)).
200 Gallons 757.082357 litres,
so approx 3/4 tonne (metric ton) of water
and plus the weight of the plastic tanks.
200 Gallons = about 240 U$ Gallons.
If your tanks are "un-baffeled" you may need to travel with them completely FULL (or completely EMPTY).
estimated 800 kg (metric) = approx. 0.882 (in US "small" tons) = approx. 1764 pounds .
The weight of water is 8.34504 pounds per gallon. Giving the total weight of 300 gallons of 2,503.62 pounds. I don’t think weight would be a problem. .............
Ohhh wow. 1 gallon of water is 8.34 pounds not 6 pounds. 8.34 x 200 = 1668 pounds not 1200. Is that important to you?
8.34 is what a gallion of water weight is at.
kinda overkill
I don't get it. Why would you build a waterbed with rigid walls? Defeats the purpose. 😃
This bus will weigh way more than 6 tires are rated to carry.
1200 lbs is only 8 to 10 children depending on their ages
Most people do not think about it that way, haha. I alway shave.
Thank you. I think people forget that these are buses. They are not motor homes.
That and also the dry weight of them are relatively light so there's plenty of capacity. I used to drive HD wreckers and towed many buses. A full size school bus weighs roughly 7~8 tons (16,000lbs) with a GVW of up to 36,200lbs, so you have approx 10tons to play with. Now I drive a gasoline tanker and that 200 gal of water, you'll never feel it. You have the worst surge when a tank is half full, so 100 gal. Your tanks shape will decrease surge as well.
All of this wasted time, money and energy... Chris do you ever think about all of the wood being layed into G while your away playing hippy?
All I can think about is how sad someone's life has to be to leave anonymous negative comments on UA-cam. I hope you can find some happiness.
You may be right...
Also... I am pretty certain I am David Moon so hiding behind anonymity is not my thing.
Alcohol and computer commenting are a deadly mix...