Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite Christmas is a pagan tradition. You can celebrate christmas if you want but not me! I'm from the Philippines. Many people here don't celebrate Christmas because of that Simple fact that I said awhile ago.
johnception WHAT?!?? HOW DO YOU KNOW??? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR??? CIA, FBI COINTELPRO INTEL?!? I SWEAR I WILL DESTROY ALL YER CAMERZ BRO!!! *twists head around furiously*
It's not like he made up the answer on the spot though, is it? Who knows how long and how much thought it took to get to that answer. I mean, it's also a huge question whether the universe is going to expand forever or not, but when the answer's known for certain after decades of research, that'll be a one word answer too.
It's a big question for him because of his past. It probably took a long time for him to decide which view to take on the subject, as you could have guessed if you had payed any attention to the video.
no, thats a terrible way of doing things. The universe is objective and our views are subjective, the point of getting closer and closer to the truth is to become more and more objective to what is. Observe the world make your own opinion can lead to "Jews are bad" - Hitler.
"Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonalbe conclusion is that they are all wrong.” - Christopher Hitchens
Or all of them are wrong but one? "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all the various ways in which relativity and quantum mechanics can be theoretically reconciled are correct, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Really?
I haven't read The Sandman (though I probably should, Neil Gaiman is awesome), so do you want to explain how it's possible? I'm going to guess that regardless of how interesting the idea is from a literary point of view, that Neil Gaiman has no exemption from the basic rule of logic that two statements which contradict each other can't both be true.
dt Well basically, all religions exist because we thought them up. Our minds in the world of the Sandman have an effect on reality. Science is still very much correct in this world, but our dreams made the myths real as well. However there is less interaction with these mythological beings today because we don't believe in them anymore which in turn takes their power. The most powerful being in this world outside the creator (not abrahamic in nature btw) is Satan because nearly 4 billion people believe in him. I'm not saying that you should accept the premise of the logic, but it is nonetheless a logical explanation for how all religions along with science can be correct simultaneously.
+Wolfgang Ambrus Personally I was heavily indoctrinated by nuns for 8 years, starting from age 4. At age 13 I realized it was all rubbish. I'm not a prof, but at least I know I'm not gullible. :)
NEprimo im not proud show off punk. i just said i was atheist at young age. it's not hard at all y am i suppose to be proud of it? all i said we need more ppl like this. educate dem
+Ahmed 360 But the entire creation story is wrong and you can not prove Gods existance. As long as something can not be proven, it has to be regarded as false.
***** But consciousness IS just governed by biochemistry. Also, I didn't mean Adam, I meant the creation of the earth in seven days which is entirely false.
***** Consciousness is the awareness of ones existance. Plants are not conscious. Also you have jumped to the Quran, while the original creation story is in the Tora. Lastly, even if the time frame is correct, the creation story is just lacking in to many places to be right. Noah's ark for example is physically impossible.
***** Sorry, let me rephrase: Consciousness is the awareness of ones own existance. I was not talking about the flood, but the ark, which allegedly held two individuals of each species which is absolutely impossible. Also, if the creation story is right, man was created after all animals and from clay/from a rib. It is just false. Believe it or not, the creation story of the Quran was pasted out of the Tora and is just an altered version. A pasted version of the original is not going to be accurate if the original is completely false.
"...you're not just looking at large distances, you're looking back in time." Well to be fair we are constantly looking back in time... and that is just as amazing to me. :)
@@AtheistJr LoL dude, you must be so cool, putting atheist on your name so everyone knows about it, damn I wish I can grow up to be an edgy teen like you too.
Prof Merrifield's thoughtful and open-minded response is a fundamental reason why he is my favorite presenter in these posts. He also knows how to see the humor in heady topics. I just like him (not that I don't like the others...).
Pc They would believe because Mathematicians usually know very little about science since society puts math in a higher level than most other sciences but then again there's no contradiction.
I was about to comment the same thing... Catholic doctrine is sooo screwed-up. It is sad that he believes that is what Christianity is when it is just plain wrong. In my church, we encourage these sorts of discussions.
As a Christian, I don't quite understand why Catholics can't see what a political and very much HUMAN, not DIVINE, institution their church is. Or, heck, any church. Oh, and the descriptions of space are beautiful too. Wonderful to hear these intellectuals talk about them.
doid3r4s Do you mean me? Not especially, in my view. There are simply different ways people express their faith, though some churches I don't respect. And, at risk of upsetting anyone, I'd rather not say more about the subject.
Moriarty's proposal of checking the bread after the eucharist reminded me so much of my schooling (I was also brought up catholic and went to a catholic school) and I got beaten for similar reasons, and then sent out of the class, and just for asking innocent questions that any enquiring mind would ask. I was an atheist by the time I was 5.
@@ZER0-- they deviated from The Bible in Theology, in deeds as an organization and most of them just follow the cultural Christianity which is more following your nation as Christianity is conversion in it's core based on ezekiEl 36:26 ( that's maybe too sophisticated for now but it's true ), not something you adopt or get born into
There may be some things that are unknowable for us no matter how deep we dig, but until there is positive proof I'd have to say I'm atheist. I agree, the Hubble 'Deep Field' image just blew me away too.
I guess I can understand them. I myself am studying theology at a university in Sweden and am becoming a priest in due time. But I also like physics. Not that I'm particularly good at it (It was a long time ago I had the chance to do more advanced math) but I like to hear about scientific discoveries and I'm all for accepting the scientific advancements that has been done during the 20th and 21st senturies. I also think it is my duty as a soon to be priest to at least try to understand these discoveries. They are the facts of the world, so why should I make myself an authority on matters that I'm just a novice in. To summarize my thoughts. I am religious and I invite people to participate in the religious beliefs that I have. But as the church is a part of society and a part of nature, the church also have to realize that it has a duty not to scrutininize science but to learn from it. Science is fact, while religion is belief and I don't think that the two have to be opposites. But when it comes to belief it is up to the individual what is subjectively true or not. Science is just true or false. I really liked the video about how worried these teaches seemed on physics in school (sorry, didn't find a link). I really agree and I think educating people on physics and math also would make a difference upon the church, making it more inclusive and understanding. This could make incidents, like when the teacher spoke about the transubstantiation, not happen (or at least not as frequently). I think both the church and scientist need to try and understand that religion and science aren't opposites. That was a long post. Sorry about that.
I'm not a highly educated person as these guys. I only have a bachelors degree. But I have done a lot of "research" for myself about the question "is there a God?" over the years of my life, and I have come to the conclusion that based on the lack of proof and the bible's inconsistencies with our scientific understanding today, I do not believe in God. In spite of this, I have respect for other peoples beliefs, and I also understand that some people find comfort or "need" to believe in God. So as long as people don't force their beliefs (that goes for atheists too) onto others, or that the religion they practise cause physical or psychological harm to others, I am perfectly fine with it.
The thing about physicists is that they are a significantly less homogeneous group of people than you see in many fields. Different physicists can have *very* different personalities. From the introverted geeky type to the "drive fast cars and party hard" type like Von Neumann. From autists like Dirac to extremely extroverted and excentric types like Feynman. From the light-hearted and humoristic to the very serious minded and old fashioned. The majority would declare themselves atheists because they're trained to demand evidence for any unreasonable claim, and because they have a very reductionist view of science and a good understanding of emergent properties. Also, plainly because high IQ people are less likely to believe. However, there is a portion of Christian scientists, and there is a fairly large portion that underscore the "physicists are different from one another" by being into every kind of eastern religion and new-agey stuff. Gell-Mann was a good example of this, introducing stuff such as the "eightfold way" as mainstream physics terminology.
The Hubble Deep Field is absolutely jaw-dropping to me. Hubble, if I recall, was trained on a section of totally black space about the diameter of a straw...or was it a postage stamp? Either way, it's too incredible. The sheer number of them, for starters. Then you realize some of the galaxies we see in that photo were already 6 billion years old when our Earth was barely forming.....! ! ! ! ! The implications render me utterly gobsmacked.
I'm shocked by people who have not heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I hope you checked it out, three years ago. Here's a start ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Do you? You must be as dilutions as them. You must also think they are geniuses, even though they have discovered nothing, and contributed nothing to the work of Newton. The father of Physics, and a true believer.
There are also many atheists who have contributed tremendously to science (perhaps you’ve heard of Einstein, or many others) As for Newton, he’s a bit of a mixed bag. He was one of the greatest mathematicians/physicists the world had ever seen, but he also believed in alchemy, had mercury poisoning, stared at the sun for hours and put a needle under his eye just to see what would happen
That transubstantiation experiment idea is epic! That is only a leap that a 9 or 10 year old would make, yet requires a certain amount of knowledge and perspective to make it.
did you know there were once flying horses, and also moon was once bigger,, but then it suddenly got split to 2 pieces, trust me, and i can proove it to you
No. As a scientist, I can assure you that it is not. There is no incompatibility whatsoever. Science is concerned with describing the truth about how the universe works and how it has evolved. Science is not concerned with why the universe is here or what happened before it got here.
Actually yes, it is incompatible. The christian mithology goes way deeper than "why the universe is here", don't forget about the talking snakes. And even if that was the case, it is not science that is not concerned with the "WHY", is that there is no evidence what so ever for a "WHY".
1:48 to 2:12 ..."Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved" - Tim Minchin.
If that mirror was there from the beginning, you'd probably see a gas cloud which our sun and planets were born from a long time ago. Not that spectacular though, you can see this happening everywhere you look in the universe.
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ― Werner Heisenberg
I stopped believing in my religion at 18, for the same reason as these fine folks. Just no definitive evidence, only a hope that it is true. Also the numerous permutations of potential gods is too great for there to be one that is true. That said, the smartest physics professor at my school is a religious catholic. I still respect him greatly.
the bible is face and they miss translated the reed see with the red sea. all the slaves from Egypt crossed the reed sea. so that proofs that the person who wrote it is an idiot lol
Our minds are never going to be able to contemplate infinity, and even when we know everything we know, there will be something out there we couldn't imagine. It might not be whats written, and it might not be whats been said, but if the search inspires any scientist, then just like anything else, its worth pursuing. The only danger is fundamentalism
"Scientists are closed minded and arent open to god. Shouldnt a good scientist be open to god? Why is a lack of evidence enough to reject god? Scientists' [and humanity's] knowledge of the universe is very limited." Ok, so you think you know more about the universe than these physicists? Go on...
@@pushtostart1377 Of course. The idea that life on Earth is the only life in the universe is absurd... sorry it took 4 years to answer. There must be systems out there that contain life. The universe is pretty big.
+Jake Sutter Time is a debated subject, theres many ways someone can perceive and interprete time, where i won't elaborate on, but theres evidence that time is the same in any situation, whether you're a snail or travelling at the speed of light
please separate the science from the scientist, many german scientists were nazis but their contribution to science is extremely valuable doesn't mean we agree with the nazis but we like to take advantage of their contribution to science
I'm a bit disappointed, that the answer was an almost 100% firm "No", and mostly because of religion's point of view being the only one considered. What about a non-religious perspective? Isn't the Universe a perfectly functioning mechanism? Did it just "happen" to become? Why can't there be a God-creator (maybe in the form of Universe itself?), that wants us to find truth for ourselves, to discover Its intricacies, through science *and* spirituality, instead of dogma?
"God" is religion. Its funny when you hear "I believe in JESUS...but im not religious" "I believe in GOD but im not religious".... ¿WTF? "Spirituality"...dont know if call it religion...but is BS, what the hell is "spirituality"? isnt "spirituality" your brain activity? your thoughts? call them "thoughts"! or "thinking"
***** Knowing something through "reason" is too ambiguous. No atheists ever said "that there is no way to know the "creator" through reason. " because reason includes evidence,or mathematics and atheists have thrust in evidence and maths. When you say "reason" includes evidence or maths?
roner61 Knowing the universe is of course achievable in practice primarily by "main stream science". My point is, science obviously cannot (yet) explain everything (many examples of stuff simply thrown away as "corelation", not "causation", simply because science doesn't yet predict mechanisms that would govern given "corelation") and there is more to nature of life and existence than mainstream science can account for. I'm not saying, that there is a duality to the universe, i.e. there's a "material" and "spiritual" side. What I'm saying is, both are ultimately the same, and both can be ultimately "explained" via scientific method. The problem is, that with the way mainstream science is organised, in terms of what is accepted as "plausible" (in order to do actual research on it) or "factual", getting to that level of understanding might take us a few thousand years. Therefore, I believe, that if mainstream science "opened up" a bit, and take account of spirituality and the physical manifestations of spiritual force - take it into consideration when trying to explain some mechanisms of nature, intelligence and life - we might actually get there sooner. And it's not like I'm taking it out of thin air, there are many theoretical and quantum physicists, for example, that come to a similar conclusion (i.e. regarding the nature of the universe).
I would like to apologize to some of the scientist and particularly the one who was once Catholic. I am sorry that your priest and catechist did not give you a proper answer. The true Catholic does not forbid questions but seeks explanations and answers. Part of the fun of faith to the discovery and I think that is also the fun of science. I guess that I why a good many of scientist and been Catholic Monks like myself. I do wish you all well in your research.
Doesn’t it also take a leap of faith to believe so firmly that there is no creator and we’re all here by mathematical chance and random chemical reactions that led to our creation?
No, because that isn't asserted as scientific fact. That's just the assumption at the moment, but in the future we probably will figure out the origin of life and the universe in greater detail. It's better to admit you don't know something than to just make up an explanation with no evidence behind it.
@@sekhmet7774 So if I find a book with a coherent story, proper syntax, and grammatically correct sentence structures, is it not reasonable for me to believe that an intelligent being wrote that book, or is that too big of an assumption and I should instead just say "Gee, I wonder how this book got written?" The apparent design IS evidence.
"Just observe the world and make your own opinion about it" may be one of the best advice and most practical thing one can do with regards to this topic.
Correct, but at some point we have to agree on something in order to have at least some form of progress. And in that case having evidence is important to decide whos opinion is the correct one and whos opinion should be dismissed.
To the physicist who said he's agnostic. You don't lack imagination, in fact I don't think you lack anything. You have something that the majority of people don't have, the ability to question things and to accept not knowing something.
+Allison Forest If you start looking into metaphysics, existence of evidence does come up in the debate. The whole question "Are we living in a virtual universe?" is directly related to science.
It would be a scientific question if there were any evidence. Those who have faith should admit that it is faith, belief without evidence. If there were evidence, it would be called knowledge (acceptance of a high likelihood based on empirical data.)
Finally someone who has a meaningful comment. Physics is interesting. Newton knew that, and he was the father of Physics. He also spent half of his life studying the Bible.
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” ― Werner Heisenberg
"All the good work it does" is balanced out by the harm it does too, but regardless, just because someone does good things doesn't mean his religion is true right? (And just because someone does bad things doesn't mean his religion is wrong) Also, there are secular groups who do good work too
The following is not meant to force anyone to change what they believe in. It merely expresses my thoughts and reactions. I also included the reasons why I believe in God: I find it shocking how these people, whom I look up to, believe that there is no creator. If there is no creator, what created us? You have shown that no thing can be created from nothing. Am I to believe that every atom and molecule, electron and proton, every quark and gluon, and every quantum mechanical probability wave, the four universal forces, gravity, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces, simply popped into existence? To explain this away, you may say that the universe is infinite. What about the multiverse? And who decided in the first place that these universes should be infinite? If universes can pop into and out of existence, who facilitates these phenomena? And who even decided that 1=1? No scientific theory or law can explain any of these questions. You can't use logic to solve any of these problems. I believe that is because there is a creator, and this creator, whom we call "God", transcends logic. The world we live in today can only exist because of a higher being.
Will Power Well... who created the creator, then ? Surely, he cannot have created himself from nothing, suddenly popping into existence. There must have been something to create the creator.
Toto Abicyclette No one. He is not because of ... He just is. He exists before the creation of time and space and every comprehension of cause and effect
So by that logic if I watch a video with intelligent theists I can then side with them.There has always been belief and disbelief by smart people, the crucial thing when deciding what way to go is to make sure your decision is based on a proper investigation.
oh really.. Did you know that 90 percent of 21st century Nobel laureates have held spiritual bliefs? Maybe THAT should tell us that none of these can properly tell anything to anyone.
Hmm, arguing using an authoritative argument on a scientific theme is a bad bad idea... I can see that arguing with people that are not receptive to your argument is frustrating. but that doesn't make it right to use authoritative argument.
DrewPeacock69 You're calling something a natural event that you have no idea how or why started? Sounds odd Drew. You was specifically talking about religious miracles, You said, EVERY TIME one has been investigated nothing external form our universe had anything to do with it. Well the creation of the universe has been investigated and something outside of it is what caused it. I say created because things that have a beginning generally have something or someone that created it. If literally nothing created everything I wish it could make me sandwich right now.
Here's the part I have the hardest time understanding. If God is so good to the people of religion, why would such a God punish someone who lived their life following what they believed to be the most true based on the information available to them? Would any such God want you to fear questioning what was true and what was not? Would such a God insist that you take another human's word as fact? (If so, then wouldn't I already know the answer, as well?) What reason would God have for you to believe in something that cannot be proven? No good God, a God that if they existed, I would respect, would have any reason to take such a stance. The only justification I can see for a God taking a position like that is a God that is human with human flaws. This God was made up by humans to satisfy human objectives. I'm willing to believe that those intentions may have been good at one time, and to some extent may still be. I see the Bible as a go-to for parents needing to answer the many questions that children ask as they are growing up and trying to understand the world. The advice was likely passed on from generation to generation as bedtime stories, idioms, memes, etc. At some point these idioms became part of written language. Some of the writings included perceptions of real events that likewise "needed" explanation and lacked sufficient perspective (e.g. satellite imagery or observations in physics yet to be made) to fully capture the reality. Optimistically, these recordings of history were a best effort synopsis. Pessimistically, I think there is evidence that people in power made modifications to these writings to establish some amount of control and direction over groups of people. I think this is highly evident in today's world. Anyone not blocked by the fear can likely see how that fear is being used against others. The fear may have been a way to enforce morals for people who had no other reason to be moral. I feel understanding how our decisions tie into preserving life in the universe yields even better morals than what the Bible can provide. If you ask yourself how your actions promote that cause, you can write an even better Bible, yourself. Does God favor the preservation of "his" creatures? Would he fault me for basing my decisions on that goal? I wouldn't live my life to serve an entity that didn't.
Reward and punishment is in the life after! Life is just like any exam! reward and punishment are after the exam. and no interfering during the exam, unless if the examiner choose to! You can question anything, but in a way to seek the truth not to mock the believers, or twist the truth for them! And I couldn't read all your comment!!!!
ɐɯɹɐʞ ɐıuɐɯ Why couldn't you read the full comment? Are you claiming that I am mocking or twisting something? I just wrote down my view of where I personally think religion came from.
i haven't read the comments, but i'm guessing there's a lot of super raging by hardcore theists and atheists alike. look at everyone in this video. they all say whatever they believe, but they all have respect for those who disagree, so can we all do the same, please?
How do we know God was responsible for the Bible and not the devil? Maybe God has never actually said a word to us and the devil just wants to mess us up as much as he can while God was just crossing his fingers hoping that he created us in a way that we knew "right" from "wrong"? So my questions is, if we don't know for sure who told us what was right and wrong, is there a way to crosscheck what the answer should be? As I've stated in previous comments, I think the answer is in the continuation of life. If life didn't attempt to preserve its existence, we wouldn't be here making these arguments. So, at a minimum, it seems like we need to preserve the existence of life. That should be a strong drive behind the decisions we make. Now, playing devils advocate, should we really try to preserve life or is it evil to allow people to live so they can suffer from starvation, poverty, witch hunts, slavery, broken hearts, cancer, etc.? This may be a morbid way to look at it, but what would it take to make sure life didn't persist? If we set off all the nuclear warheads on the planet, would that end all life? Would anything survive that? Well, I happen to believe it is possible that life exists on many other planets far outside our reach. I assume at least a few of those planets could have life that is not intelligent enough to choose its future like we supposedly can. So, in short, we can't possibly control the discontinuation of life. By contradiction, I think we have no other choice than to allow it to persist or even promote it, which is what we seem to be doing and that seems to agree with most religious views to a large extent. Is that an effective crosscheck? If so, is there anything else we can do that with?
That story with the microscope is gold
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+Attnel Ofsurds ikr
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite Christmas is a pagan tradition. You can celebrate christmas if you want but not me! I'm from the Philippines. Many people here don't celebrate Christmas because of that Simple fact that I said awhile ago.
Why are you all replying with a religious debate? I just said it was funny...
+Attnel Ofsurds I doubt it's true. Proabably just wants to seem like such a hardcore scientist that he was doing this as a kid, yeah right,
"ohh that's a big question... (1 sec. later) okay no" lol not so big it appears.
+Franklin Gomez And afterwards he started explaining why, also, a big question doesn't have to have a big answer.
+Franklin Gomez Ever hear of Sarcasm?
He probably simply already gave it a lot of thought...
big question, small answer
to make a physicists to become religious is a Mission Impossible: Physicists aren't religious movie
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Boril Boyanov at least my parents are still together!
johnception WHAT?!?? HOW DO YOU KNOW??? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR??? CIA, FBI COINTELPRO INTEL?!? I SWEAR I WILL DESTROY ALL YER CAMERZ BRO!!! *twists head around furiously*
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"oooh that's a big question, okay . . .no." LOL
Professor Moriarty ftw
"Oh that's a big question. Ok. No."
For a big question he sure did answer pretty fast and pretty straightforward.
he answered honestly.
It's not like he made up the answer on the spot though, is it? Who knows how long and how much thought it took to get to that answer. I mean, it's also a huge question whether the universe is going to expand forever or not, but when the answer's known for certain after decades of research, that'll be a one word answer too.
It's a big question for him because of his past. It probably took a long time for him to decide which view to take on the subject, as you could have guessed if you had payed any attention to the video.
***** That appears to be you. He was in no way being sarcastic.
2:10 Just observe the world and make your own opinion about it. I wish more people thought like that.
Agree, but sadly people love to jump at other people with different opinion
Not really. More flat earthed would be born 😂
no, thats a terrible way of doing things. The universe is objective and our views are subjective, the point of getting closer and closer to the truth is to become more and more objective to what is. Observe the world make your own opinion can lead to "Jews are bad" - Hitler.
"Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonalbe conclusion is that they are all wrong.”
- Christopher Hitchens
Or all of them are wrong but one? "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all the various ways in which relativity and quantum mechanics can be theoretically reconciled are correct, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Really?
Well if you've ever read The Sandman, then you'd know it's possible for all of them to be right.
I haven't read The Sandman (though I probably should, Neil Gaiman is awesome), so do you want to explain how it's possible? I'm going to guess that regardless of how interesting the idea is from a literary point of view, that Neil Gaiman has no exemption from the basic rule of logic that two statements which contradict each other can't both be true.
dt Well basically, all religions exist because we thought them up. Our minds in the world of the Sandman have an effect on reality. Science is still very much correct in this world, but our dreams made the myths real as well. However there is less interaction with these mythological beings today because we don't believe in them anymore which in turn takes their power. The most powerful being in this world outside the creator (not abrahamic in nature btw) is Satan because nearly 4 billion people believe in him.
I'm not saying that you should accept the premise of the logic, but it is nonetheless a logical explanation for how all religions along with science can be correct simultaneously.
Saed Abumokh Do you have a better provable idea?
1:54, that is why he is a professor. If he thought of that at 9 years old he must be pretty damn clever.
+Wolfgang Ambrus Personally I was heavily indoctrinated by nuns for 8 years, starting from age 4. At age 13 I realized it was all rubbish. I'm not a prof, but at least I know I'm not gullible. :)
+Wolfgang Ambrus my thought exactly! at that age I would be thinking more about how I couldn't wait to watch this show on the telly
Sith Smasher me agnostic at age 11, atheist at 13. high-5 for team young atheist! ex- muslim tho. nice to meet u :)
Ikmal Axl wow you must feel really proud of yourself, thanks for the blog!
NEprimo im not proud show off punk. i just said i was atheist at young age. it's not hard at all y am i suppose to be proud of it? all i said we need more ppl like this. educate dem
The guy speaking between 1:22 & 2:11 expains it well. WHY'D THEY KICK HIM OUT OF THE CLASS IF HE DIDN'T HAVE A POINT?!
Well, as far as believing goes, I agree with Einstein. "I am willing to believe when there is evidence, but then it is knowing."
Not true, having evidence isn't knowing yet. That is where faith is. There is evidence but you cannot know for sure
Am I the only one that thought they wouldn't give such obvious answers?
Meh... I meant that I thought at least half of them would come out as believers while it's obvious they are expected not to believe
+Ahmed 360 But the entire creation story is wrong and you can not prove Gods existance. As long as something can not be proven, it has to be regarded as false.
***** But consciousness IS just governed by biochemistry. Also, I didn't mean Adam, I meant the creation of the earth in seven days which is entirely false.
***** Consciousness is the awareness of ones existance. Plants are not conscious. Also you have jumped to the Quran, while the original creation story is in the Tora. Lastly, even if the time frame is correct, the creation story is just lacking in to many places to be right. Noah's ark for example is physically impossible.
***** Sorry, let me rephrase: Consciousness is the awareness of ones own existance.
I was not talking about the flood, but the ark, which allegedly held two individuals of each species which is absolutely impossible.
Also, if the creation story is right, man was created after all animals and from clay/from a rib. It is just false.
Believe it or not, the creation story of the Quran was pasted out of the Tora and is just an altered version. A pasted version of the original is not going to be accurate if the original is completely false.
A lot of people are making comments warning everyone about the comments section however from what I see it seems pretty calm.
Mike Hunt Nothing, actually. I was expecting you to run away, actually. Wow. This is awkward.
zed1207 Oh. Have a nice day.
Jeez I thought this was an old comment of mine that I forgot :)
I agree... try some 9/11 video for comment cancer.
Try reaching the newest comments
I wouldn't proceed past this point in the comment section. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
The comment right below yours says " the comments are actually pretty calm"
You have got two replies now! I am coming for you.
There was one comment that stood out:
"There's no contradiction."
Science isn't a belief system, its a tool for discovery.
"...you're not just looking at large distances, you're looking back in time."
Well to be fair we are constantly looking back in time... and that is just as amazing to me. :)
I'm God and I find this offensive.
Uuuuuh y plus there is a reason that is acceptable and they r allowed to believe whatever
Kachun Wong A shotgun is a product of science, you filthy infidel!
Kal Sage 'cause I hate you.
Kal Sage Yeah, well, Brad Pitt prayed harder. Sorry about that, bro. :(
i am the angel wich created the NUKE :P
Moriarty's denial of Flying Spaghetti Monster offended me deeply.
Flying Spaghetti Monster is pure cringe
@@AtheistJr LoL dude, you must be so cool, putting atheist on your name so everyone knows about it, damn I wish I can grow up to be an edgy teen like you too.
@@Belial-jv5tq man you got offended real quick.
He's NOT Pastafarian??
God doesn't have to be the religious God.
It's on the mental field, not in the material. With your mind you can create whole universes.
But only in your mind.
Prof Merrifield's thoughtful and open-minded response is a fundamental reason why he is my favorite presenter in these posts. He also knows how to see the humor in heady topics. I just like him (not that I don't like the others...).
Me too!
Please ask the Numberphile guys if they believe! Thanks!
Pc They would believe because Mathematicians usually know very little about science since society puts math in a higher level than most other sciences but then again there's no contradiction.
Littlemanz Jordan What? A very large amount of mathematicians are physicists as well, simply because of how much they interlink.
@@littlemanzjordan7267 Huh?
Ask them if they believe alien exists.
The microscope story is depressing, how can people be so closed minded...
I was about to comment the same thing... Catholic doctrine is sooo screwed-up. It is sad that he believes that is what Christianity is when it is just plain wrong. In my church, we encourage these sorts of discussions.
As a Christian, I don't quite understand why Catholics can't see what a political and very much HUMAN, not DIVINE, institution their church is. Or, heck, any church.
Oh, and the descriptions of space are beautiful too. Wonderful to hear these intellectuals talk about them.
let me understand. Are you saying some churches are diviner than others?
doid3r4s Do you mean me? Not especially, in my view. There are simply different ways people express their faith, though some churches I don't respect. And, at risk of upsetting anyone, I'd rather not say more about the subject.
You're so unfair, he was just a child
1:51 ...this...
Moriarty's proposal of checking the bread after the eucharist reminded me so much of my schooling (I was also brought up catholic and went to a catholic school) and I got beaten for similar reasons, and then sent out of the class, and just for asking innocent questions that any enquiring mind would ask. I was an atheist by the time I was 5.
That's why catholics arwn't Christian though
@@uganda_mn397 Explain why you say that.
@@ZER0-- they deviated from The Bible in Theology, in deeds as an organization and most of them just follow the cultural Christianity which is more following your nation as Christianity is conversion in it's core based on ezekiEl 36:26 ( that's maybe too sophisticated for now but it's true ), not something you adopt or get born into
There may be some things that are unknowable for us no matter how deep we dig, but until there is positive proof I'd have to say I'm atheist. I agree, the Hubble 'Deep Field' image just blew me away too.
I guess I can understand them. I myself am studying theology at a university in Sweden and am becoming a priest in due time. But I also like physics. Not that I'm particularly good at it (It was a long time ago I had the chance to do more advanced math) but I like to hear about scientific discoveries and I'm all for accepting the scientific advancements that has been done during the 20th and 21st senturies. I also think it is my duty as a soon to be priest to at least try to understand these discoveries. They are the facts of the world, so why should I make myself an authority on matters that I'm just a novice in.
To summarize my thoughts. I am religious and I invite people to participate in the religious beliefs that I have. But as the church is a part of society and a part of nature, the church also have to realize that it has a duty not to scrutininize science but to learn from it.
Science is fact, while religion is belief and I don't think that the two have to be opposites. But when it comes to belief it is up to the individual what is subjectively true or not. Science is just true or false.
I really liked the video about how worried these teaches seemed on physics in school (sorry, didn't find a link). I really agree and I think educating people on physics and math also would make a difference upon the church, making it more inclusive and understanding. This could make incidents, like when the teacher spoke about the transubstantiation, not happen (or at least not as frequently). I think both the church and scientist need to try and understand that religion and science aren't opposites.
That was a long post. Sorry about that.
Well said
perfect.
Science is not entirely fact because sometimes it is based on theories which in some cases are not proven.
Anton where are you at with all this now? I’m currently on a journey similar to where you were 6 years ago - keen to hear how you are getting on.
@@JordanALAllen Imagine lying for a living :). Brainwashing children should have the death sentence.
I'm not a highly educated person as these guys. I only have a bachelors degree. But I have done a lot of "research" for myself about the question "is there a God?" over the years of my life, and I have come to the conclusion that based on the lack of proof and the bible's inconsistencies with our scientific understanding today, I do not believe in God.
In spite of this, I have respect for other peoples beliefs, and I also understand that some people find comfort or "need" to believe in God. So as long as people don't force their beliefs (that goes for atheists too) onto others, or that the religion they practise cause physical or psychological harm to others, I am perfectly fine with it.
theists cannot help but cause harm to others! its a nasty mental illness and should be eradicated
The thing about physicists is that they are a significantly less homogeneous group of people than you see in many fields. Different physicists can have *very* different personalities. From the introverted geeky type to the "drive fast cars and party hard" type like Von Neumann. From autists like Dirac to extremely extroverted and excentric types like Feynman. From the light-hearted and humoristic to the very serious minded and old fashioned.
The majority would declare themselves atheists because they're trained to demand evidence for any unreasonable claim, and because they have a very reductionist view of science and a good understanding of emergent properties. Also, plainly because high IQ people are less likely to believe.
However, there is a portion of Christian scientists, and there is a fairly large portion that underscore the "physicists are different from one another" by being into every kind of eastern religion and new-agey stuff. Gell-Mann was a good example of this, introducing stuff such as the "eightfold way" as mainstream physics terminology.
I think that you have basically described mankind as a whole.
00:44 I believe in Miles Davis.
And he believes in you 👍
The Hubble Deep Field is absolutely jaw-dropping to me. Hubble, if I recall, was trained on a section of totally black space about the diameter of a straw...or was it a postage stamp? Either way, it's too incredible. The sheer number of them, for starters. Then you realize some of the galaxies we see in that photo were already 6 billion years old when our Earth was barely forming.....! ! ! ! ! The implications render me utterly gobsmacked.
The first guy is my fav he said that’s a big question but said no amedietly without having to think😂
Look at all of those useless downvotes.
Andrew Crum how are they useless ?
1.3k Triggered religious fanatics, managed to get offended by this video.
As expected from these fundies.
A defintion of faith is to believe without evidence.
False.
True
@@juance2262 If you have evidence faith is irrelevant.
@@Artman1 why?
@@juance2262 Faith is ignorance dressed up as something special.
Mike Merrifield is awesome. Such a balanced, normal, respectable, non-virtue signaling answer.
my thoughts too
Dr. Kaii +
yep My most watched playlist is the Mike Merrifield one. He's the best
He is. I've even emailed him about an expedition we did in Elite Dangerous (space game) and he replied. Great guy
whoa nice find wrindwolf
This is the second time I'm hearing about this flying spaghetti monster! xD imma do my research...
Scientology
From a physicist too :D
Ramen, brother, Ramen! :-)
I'm shocked by people who have not heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I hope you checked it out, three years ago. Here's a start ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Arthur G wow...
I love how they all laugh at the thought of god existing.
Lol
@@piec6062 that reply was a little late
Lol XD
Do you? You must be as dilutions as them. You must also think they are geniuses, even though they have discovered nothing, and contributed nothing to the work of Newton. The father of Physics, and a true believer.
SJY newton was a heretic btw
There are also many atheists who have contributed tremendously to science (perhaps you’ve heard of Einstein, or many others)
As for Newton, he’s a bit of a mixed bag. He was one of the greatest mathematicians/physicists the world had ever seen, but he also believed in alchemy, had mercury poisoning, stared at the sun for hours and put a needle under his eye just to see what would happen
That transubstantiation experiment idea is epic! That is only a leap that a 9 or 10 year old would make, yet requires a certain amount of knowledge and perspective to make it.
This was very satisfying to watch
I love this channel and these videos, thank you all for being a part of this. It is really inspirational.
Lol, the Great Green Arkleseizure. Yet another Hitchhiker's reference from Professor Moriarty.
At least he admits it at 1:06: "There's no contradiction. It is possible to both have a religious belief and to be a scientist."
did you know there were once flying horses, and also moon was once bigger,, but then it suddenly got split to 2 pieces, trust me, and i can proove it to you
The Christian belief is incompatible with the modern scope of the universe.
Lucas
No it's not.
No. As a scientist, I can assure you that it is not. There is no incompatibility whatsoever. Science is concerned with describing the truth about how the universe works and how it has evolved. Science is not concerned with why the universe is here or what happened before it got here.
Actually yes, it is incompatible. The christian mithology goes way deeper than "why the universe is here", don't forget about the talking snakes. And even if that was the case, it is not science that is not concerned with the "WHY", is that there is no evidence what so ever for a "WHY".
Which god? There are like 3000 of them ...
1:06 this man got a balance idea, not trying to put down the other argument, and trying to get out of his subjectivity.
1:48 to 2:12 ..."Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved" - Tim Minchin.
Ironic how spiteful both seem to be. Why do you believe science went the opposite direction than the spirit?
@The Mountain I definitely agree. But to those that dont know the spirit is a real thing....
Being able to look back in time is actually pretty freezing amazing and scary
Freaking*
If there were a mirrow on an imaginative edge of the universe could you watch what happens in the past? If the light of a happening would return back.
If that mirror was there from the beginning, you'd probably see a gas cloud which our sun and planets were born from a long time ago.
Not that spectacular though, you can see this happening everywhere you look in the universe.
So much butthurt in this comment section.
Actually everyone here agrees with each other lol. Like a bunch of mindless zombies.
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
― Werner Heisenberg
+#1 Cartmenbrah (Original) Very deep errr philosophy from a Beavis and Butthead fanboy or whatever you got there.
I stopped believing in my religion at 18, for the same reason as these fine folks. Just no definitive evidence, only a hope that it is true. Also the numerous permutations of potential gods is too great for there to be one that is true. That said, the smartest physics professor at my school is a religious catholic. I still respect him greatly.
Why is it obvious that an intelligent God created a universe but it is not obvious that an intelligent man wrote a book?
James Evanko Haahaha, so very true. Although they might not have been _that_ intelligent, too many plot holes.
ObeseYeti There were many, and I'm pretty sure they didn't know each other.
+James Evanko Did you universe come from nothing?
+Mike Tyson. Define nothing.
the bible is face and they miss translated the reed see with the red sea. all the slaves from Egypt crossed the reed sea. so that proofs that the person who wrote it is an idiot lol
Our minds are never going to be able to contemplate infinity, and even when we know everything we know, there will be something out there we couldn't imagine. It might not be whats written, and it might not be whats been said, but if the search inspires any scientist, then just like anything else, its worth pursuing. The only danger is fundamentalism
"Scientists are closed minded and arent open to god. Shouldnt a good scientist be open to god? Why is a lack of evidence enough to reject god? Scientists' [and humanity's] knowledge of the universe is very limited."
Ok, so you think you know more about the universe than these physicists? Go on...
Sixty Symbols, please disable the comments as people will start making flame wars over religion. Oh wait, they have been for the past 3 years...
S-someone disagrees with me?! Silence them!
I would've liked if this particular question was asked in Numberphile, Periodic videos, computerphile etc.
Yeah.... there's a reason we never got Part 2. This is Brady's job now.
0:19 "No, absolutely not. No evidence for it" is the correct answer.
No evidence for it or simply we don't want to look for... Whatever but basic question remains that nothing can't come out of nothing.
@KiwiPokerPlayer Do you believe other life forms outside of this world?
@@pushtostart1377 Of course. The idea that life on Earth is the only life in the universe is absurd... sorry it took 4 years to answer. There must be systems out there that contain life. The universe is pretty big.
my departure from religion really began the first time i saw the hubble deep field, its amazing
Massive respec to Prof. Moriarty for bringing The Great Green Arkleseizure into it.
0:00 "Oh, that's a big question." Answers it a second later.
A big question can have a small answer, especially if the person giving the answer has given a lot of thought to the question.
They most likely considered this question over a long time before, so while it is a big question they already know and understand their view on it.
To you the light has been traveling for 10 billion years for the photon the path was instantaneous
Joshua Lansell-Kenny yeah because at the speed of light time stops. so the light "feels no time"
+Jake Sutter Time is a debated subject, theres many ways someone can perceive and interprete time, where i won't elaborate on, but theres evidence that time is the same in any situation, whether you're a snail or travelling at the speed of light
Newton believed; he actually spent half of his life decoding the Bible. He created the foundation of Physics. Does this mean nothing?
Einstein didn't believe,we could play this game all day.
So what if this one person believed? That doesn't mean the belief is true, because it doesn't matter who believes or how many people believe it.
please separate the science from the scientist, many german scientists were nazis but their contribution to science is extremely valuable doesn't mean we agree with the nazis but we like to take advantage of their contribution to science
"Do you believe in God?"
"Oh, that's a big question. Okay, no."
Believing in gods is no different to believing in lepricons or smurfs...
I'm a bit disappointed, that the answer was an almost 100% firm "No", and mostly because of religion's point of view being the only one considered. What about a non-religious perspective? Isn't the Universe a perfectly functioning mechanism? Did it just "happen" to become? Why can't there be a God-creator (maybe in the form of Universe itself?), that wants us to find truth for ourselves, to discover Its intricacies, through science *and* spirituality, instead of dogma?
"God" is religion.
Its funny when you hear "I believe in JESUS...but im not religious" "I believe in GOD but im not religious".... ¿WTF?
"Spirituality"...dont know if call it religion...but is BS, what the hell is "spirituality"? isnt "spirituality" your brain activity? your thoughts? call them "thoughts"! or "thinking"
***** Knowing something through "reason" is too ambiguous.
No atheists ever said "that there is no way to know the "creator" through reason. " because reason includes evidence,or mathematics and atheists have thrust in evidence and maths.
When you say "reason" includes evidence or maths?
roner61 Knowing the universe is of course achievable in practice primarily by "main stream science". My point is, science obviously cannot (yet) explain everything (many examples of stuff simply thrown away as "corelation", not "causation", simply because science doesn't yet predict mechanisms that would govern given "corelation") and there is more to nature of life and existence than mainstream science can account for.
I'm not saying, that there is a duality to the universe, i.e. there's a "material" and "spiritual" side. What I'm saying is, both are ultimately the same, and both can be ultimately "explained" via scientific method. The problem is, that with the way mainstream science is organised, in terms of what is accepted as "plausible" (in order to do actual research on it) or "factual", getting to that level of understanding might take us a few thousand years.
Therefore, I believe, that if mainstream science "opened up" a bit, and take account of spirituality and the physical manifestations of spiritual force - take it into consideration when trying to explain some mechanisms of nature, intelligence and life - we might actually get there sooner. And it's not like I'm taking it out of thin air, there are many theoretical and quantum physicists, for example, that come to a similar conclusion (i.e. regarding the nature of the universe).
" Although claiming they were wise, they became foolish. " - Romans 1:22
I would like to apologize to some of the scientist and particularly the one who was once Catholic. I am sorry that your priest and catechist did not give you a proper answer. The true Catholic does not forbid questions but seeks explanations and answers. Part of the fun of faith to the discovery and I think that is also the fun of science. I guess that I why a good many of scientist and been Catholic Monks like myself. I do wish you all well in your research.
Doesn’t it also take a leap of faith to believe so firmly that there is no creator and we’re all here by mathematical chance and random chemical reactions that led to our creation?
No, because that isn't asserted as scientific fact. That's just the assumption at the moment, but in the future we probably will figure out the origin of life and the universe in greater detail. It's better to admit you don't know something than to just make up an explanation with no evidence behind it.
@@sekhmet7774 why would that show the lawgiver doesn’t exist?
@@sekhmet7774 So if I find a book with a coherent story, proper syntax, and grammatically correct sentence structures, is it not reasonable for me to believe that an intelligent being wrote that book, or is that too big of an assumption and I should instead just say "Gee, I wonder how this book got written?" The apparent design IS evidence.
"Fundamentalist Christian physicists" tend to reject quite a bit of actual evidence, creating at least some incompatibility.
do you believe in a higher dimension that transcends our own understanding of Physics. No but we are looking for it if it does exist.
i like physics. I don't believe in both. I am searching for both. And there is no solid proof for both.
Remus Sayed you are living proof of physics
You can't observe anything outside of our self-contained universe.
We use the universe to observe the universe...
This comment stopped me from scrolling down further
2:25 in the video it slams me right in the face that the professor have a beautiful picture of Miles Davis. What a sight!
"No. Absolutely not. No evidence for it." Exactly.
@alice hatterz can you elaborate?
@alice hatterz idiot
@@flygandeskote1702 any evidence for evolution?
@@margaretirvine131 YES....Yes there are more than a 1000 experiments that prove evolution and that the Darwin was right
John Stasinopoulos can you explain that? Because I just read about how thousands of PhD scientist are now denying Darwinian evolution
"Just observe the world and make your own opinion about it" may be one of the best advice and most practical thing one can do with regards to this topic.
Correct, but at some point we have to agree on something in order to have at least some form of progress. And in that case having evidence is important to decide whos opinion is the correct one and whos opinion should be dismissed.
That story with the microscope Is gold
To the physicist who said he's agnostic. You don't lack imagination, in fact I don't think you lack anything. You have something that the majority of people don't have, the ability to question things and to accept not knowing something.
This comment section:
95% People warning you about arguments/making jokes about them
5% actual arguments
Mindless zombies. They act like they learned from Newton, yet none of them know Newton spent half of his life decoding he Bible.
I'm offensive and find this Christian.
Scientific method :
- Make an assertion.
-Try to prove it wrong by all means.
-If you can't then it is probably a true assertion.
More of a believer in the second coming of the Great Prophet Zarquon then Phil? Love the Hitchhikers references!
I honestly don't think this is a scientific question. It's a philosophical one.
+Allison Forest ok
+Allison Forest Philosophy is just science without experimental proofs.
Agreed, but how often does the statement "there's no evidence that supports it" relevant to philosophical debate?
+Allison Forest If you start looking into metaphysics, existence of evidence does come up in the debate. The whole question "Are we living in a virtual universe?" is directly related to science.
It would be a scientific question if there were any evidence. Those who have faith should admit that it is faith, belief without evidence. If there were evidence, it would be called knowledge (acceptance of a high likelihood based on empirical data.)
I think black holes are very interesting.
Finally someone who has a meaningful comment. Physics is interesting. Newton knew that, and he was the father of Physics. He also spent half of his life studying the Bible.
My new favorite guy, the one who referenced the "Great Green Arkleseizure" from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Damn! Can't get more straightforward than that!
That last story was amazing
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
― Werner Heisenberg
What prof. Ed said at the end is really mind-blowing. Imagine a close-up on a world from 5 billion years ago...
Eons ago we crawled out the mud
There was no Adam, no Fall and no Flood
No debt requiring a payment of blood
Christian salvation: one big dud
who was the first person ever existed in the galaxy?
I'd prefer if you didn't insult me.
UM WHAT DID HE SAY ABOUT THE GIANT SPAGHETTI MONSTER 😂
Well, there's really no evidence (pushes glasses onto forehead)...Uh...the...well (stares at camera and smiled) ..uh..yes I don't...
"All the good work it does" is balanced out by the harm it does too, but regardless, just because someone does good things doesn't mean his religion is true right? (And just because someone does bad things doesn't mean his religion is wrong)
Also, there are secular groups who do good work too
0:52 hitch hikers guide to the galaxy reference
0:27 , 1:07 , 2:46 That guy was obviously the smartest of the bunch. Something about him makes me come back to these videos time again.
SpydreX Official Ed Copeland (the one who liked the Hubble deep field) is also a major reason I watch these videos
Not necessarily the smartest but he's certainly the most diplomatic.
The following is not meant to force anyone to change what they believe in. It merely expresses my thoughts and reactions. I also included the reasons why I believe in God:
I find it shocking how these people, whom I look up to, believe that there is no creator. If there is no creator, what created us?
You have shown that no thing can be created from nothing. Am I to believe that every atom and molecule, electron and proton, every quark and gluon, and every quantum mechanical probability wave, the four universal forces, gravity, electromagnetism, and the weak and strong nuclear forces, simply popped into existence?
To explain this away, you may say that the universe is infinite. What about the multiverse? And who decided in the first place that these universes should be infinite? If universes can pop into and out of existence, who facilitates these phenomena? And who even decided that 1=1?
No scientific theory or law can explain any of these questions. You can't use logic to solve any of these problems. I believe that is because there is a creator, and this creator, whom we call "God", transcends logic. The world we live in today can only exist because of a higher being.
***** So do you choose to believe something just because the alternative is boring?
Will Power Well... who created the creator, then ? Surely, he cannot have created himself from nothing, suddenly popping into existence. There must have been something to create the creator.
But you still admit that there is a creator.
Toto Abicyclette No one. He is not because of ... He just is. He exists before the creation of time and space and every comprehension of cause and effect
***** Which question?
Atheist should all like this. Takes a lot for people to come out as an atheist in public.
Science always needs proof
No such thing as scientific proof.
@@lamaripiazza5226 what are you taking about?
Proof only refers or is used to math and stuff not science.
I have respect for this physicist, I myself am an atheist, one day I wanna be a Physicist😉✌🏼️
Are ya winnin son?
These people are smarter than most of us. So when they all don't believe in a fairytale skydaddy; that should tell you something...
So because you believe that their smarter than you and they voice their own opinions you believe it?
So by that logic if I watch a video with intelligent theists I can then side with them.There has always been belief and disbelief by smart people, the crucial thing when deciding what way to go is to make sure your decision is based on a proper investigation.
oh really.. Did you know that 90 percent of 21st century Nobel laureates have held spiritual bliefs? Maybe THAT should tell us that none of these can properly tell anything to anyone.
Hmm, arguing using an authoritative argument on a scientific theme is a bad bad idea...
I can see that arguing with people that are not receptive to your argument is frustrating. but that doesn't make it right to use authoritative argument.
DrewPeacock69
You're calling something a natural event that you have no idea how or why started? Sounds odd Drew.
You was specifically talking about religious miracles, You said, EVERY TIME one has been investigated nothing external form our universe had anything to do with it. Well the creation of the universe has been investigated and something outside of it is what caused it.
I say created because things that have a beginning generally have something or someone that created it. If literally nothing created everything I wish it could make me sandwich right now.
"give us one free miracle,and we can work out the rest"TM
Here's the part I have the hardest time understanding. If God is so good to the people of religion, why would such a God punish someone who lived their life following what they believed to be the most true based on the information available to them? Would any such God want you to fear questioning what was true and what was not? Would such a God insist that you take another human's word as fact? (If so, then wouldn't I already know the answer, as well?) What reason would God have for you to believe in something that cannot be proven? No good God, a God that if they existed, I would respect, would have any reason to take such a stance. The only justification I can see for a God taking a position like that is a God that is human with human flaws. This God was made up by humans to satisfy human objectives. I'm willing to believe that those intentions may have been good at one time, and to some extent may still be. I see the Bible as a go-to for parents needing to answer the many questions that children ask as they are growing up and trying to understand the world. The advice was likely passed on from generation to generation as bedtime stories, idioms, memes, etc. At some point these idioms became part of written language. Some of the writings included perceptions of real events that likewise "needed" explanation and lacked sufficient perspective (e.g. satellite imagery or observations in physics yet to be made) to fully capture the reality. Optimistically, these recordings of history were a best effort synopsis. Pessimistically, I think there is evidence that people in power made modifications to these writings to establish some amount of control and direction over groups of people. I think this is highly evident in today's world. Anyone not blocked by the fear can likely see how that fear is being used against others. The fear may have been a way to enforce morals for people who had no other reason to be moral. I feel understanding how our decisions tie into preserving life in the universe yields even better morals than what the Bible can provide. If you ask yourself how your actions promote that cause, you can write an even better Bible, yourself. Does God favor the preservation of "his" creatures? Would he fault me for basing my decisions on that goal? I wouldn't live my life to serve an entity that didn't.
Reward and punishment is in the life after!
Life is just like any exam! reward and punishment are after the exam. and no interfering during the exam, unless if the examiner choose to!
You can question anything, but in a way to seek the truth not to mock the believers, or twist the truth for them!
And I couldn't read all your comment!!!!
ɐɯɹɐʞ ɐıuɐɯ Why couldn't you read the full comment? Are you claiming that I am mocking or twisting something? I just wrote down my view of where I personally think religion came from.
God fucking dammit! Why did i even look down in the comments. *facepalm repeatedly*
OH! That was a REALLY bad choice of words. XD
i haven't read the comments, but i'm guessing there's a lot of super raging by hardcore theists and atheists alike.
look at everyone in this video. they all say whatever they believe, but they all have respect for those who disagree, so can we all do the same, please?
Naahh, Sam, we must actively fight against superstitious horse-puckey.
Actually they all agreed with each other, and so had everyone in these comments. It is funny that they all DISAGREE with Newton though. Lol!!!!
How do we know God was responsible for the Bible and not the devil? Maybe God has never actually said a word to us and the devil just wants to mess us up as much as he can while God was just crossing his fingers hoping that he created us in a way that we knew "right" from "wrong"? So my questions is, if we don't know for sure who told us what was right and wrong, is there a way to crosscheck what the answer should be? As I've stated in previous comments, I think the answer is in the continuation of life. If life didn't attempt to preserve its existence, we wouldn't be here making these arguments. So, at a minimum, it seems like we need to preserve the existence of life. That should be a strong drive behind the decisions we make. Now, playing devils advocate, should we really try to preserve life or is it evil to allow people to live so they can suffer from starvation, poverty, witch hunts, slavery, broken hearts, cancer, etc.? This may be a morbid way to look at it, but what would it take to make sure life didn't persist? If we set off all the nuclear warheads on the planet, would that end all life? Would anything survive that? Well, I happen to believe it is possible that life exists on many other planets far outside our reach. I assume at least a few of those planets could have life that is not intelligent enough to choose its future like we supposedly can. So, in short, we can't possibly control the discontinuation of life. By contradiction, I think we have no other choice than to allow it to persist or even promote it, which is what we seem to be doing and that seems to agree with most religious views to a large extent. Is that an effective crosscheck? If so, is there anything else we can do that with?
There just isn't any reason to believe in a god.
i do not understand the logic that no one created the universe??