I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD that is factory height, it’s a tall truck! So my question is, which shock is better for my application, 4600 or 5100?
They are about a half inch longer than the stock Sasquatch parts fully extended and the same length fully compressed. So a touch longer than what you have no in both avenues, but not much. If you are looking to gain travel get the Icon 2.5 EXPs instead
Actuallyyy the 4600 is a bit stiffer for street applications and the 5100 is a bit floatier for a more off-road applications, have ran both and the 4600 just ride smoother on highway and take bumps at higher speeds better, 5100 eats up speed bumps a bit better but tends to have light sway on highway nothing detrimental but you’ll get a more modern/stiffer feel on any vehicle with the 4600
I have a 2023 Ram classic. wheels 285/45/22, basically 32in wheel height. Which one will be better for daily driver, not off-roading at all. Is it worth to install the Bilstain, will have improvement over the stock? Thank you.
4600s would defintiely be the way to go if you are keeping it stock height and on the road. They should offer may better handling, stability, and comfort over stock.
Maybe that is something they used to do, but on most applications they use the same shaft 14 and 18 mm shafts. The 2.6" body 6112, 8100, and 8112 struts, shocks, and coilovers do get larger shafts though.
I have a procomp leveling kit and now my truck sways from left to the right when I hit bumps. I did have the alignment fixed and it's better, but will 5100's eliminate this horizontal sway?
The Bilsteins are digressively valved so they should offer a lot more stability in those conditions, however it sounds like their could be some funky geometry at play if you are getting a little yaw over bumps. What kind of vehicle is it?
I recently bought the 5100 for my f-150 2015 RWD and for some reason the control arm would hit the strut. What could be the reason for this ? I’m on 33s with 18inch rims
I have a stock 2014 gmc sierra. It has a stock factory ride height with stock suspension. Only mods are the 17” rims and 33” tires. Will I be fine putting on the 4600 or do i have to go with the 5100? I dont plan on lifting the truck at all.
I put 5100s on my pickup (video in my profile), I have 17" wheels with 33" tires, the ride is about as perfect as I could ever need it to be. 2008 GMC Sierra, these pickups go really well with Bilsteins.
You can yes, its ill advised though. You're putting the ride zone at the very top of the travel range, leaving no downward/droop travel left in the shock, you'll feel frequent clunks on bumps or holes.
@ShockSurplus I only say 4600 because of the soft plushy ride. If I run a 5100 with a full 3" coil spring which is recommended for the plush luxury ride coil spring and what rate Maybe 600lb or less? Like stock!
Why do bilstein the number as name of the model between 4600 and 5100? Is 4600 represents the 46mm piston? And 5100 represents 51mm piston or as lifting applications?
No that is it. The 5100s struts are ride height adjustable and the shocks are longer and designed for lifts. They are tuned a little firmer as well but outside of that and the zinc plating the internals are identical
@@ShockSurplus so my question is, why bilstein add zinc plated shocks? Instead of paint. A protective paint last longer than zinc coated. Why not paint silver gloss for B8/5100 instead? They did on rav4.
Zinc plating will far outlast paint when maintained. If you occasionally spray them with a light lubricant like a teflon spray, the Zinc will basically last forever. It also is a stronger coating that is far less likely to chip when hit with debris. Vehicles that use strut suspension like the RAV4 do not have the same concern about being peppered with debris or getting hung up on a rock, so they went with paint on the B8 Terrasports.
Finally. More informative Bilstein comparison between 4600 and 5100. 😍❤️🔥
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These made my 35s run smoother at higher highway speeds
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Do one for 5100 vs 5160 please.
5160 have bigger shock bodies
I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD that is factory height, it’s a tall truck! So my question is, which shock is better for my application, 4600 or 5100?
Would like to know if you have measurements that compare the 6112 extended length and travel compared the stock Badlands ESV Bilstein?
They are about a half inch longer than the stock Sasquatch parts fully extended and the same length fully compressed. So a touch longer than what you have no in both avenues, but not much. If you are looking to gain travel get the Icon 2.5 EXPs instead
Actuallyyy the 4600 is a bit stiffer for street applications and the 5100 is a bit floatier for a more off-road applications, have ran both and the 4600 just ride smoother on highway and take bumps at higher speeds better, 5100 eats up speed bumps a bit better but tends to have light sway on highway nothing detrimental but you’ll get a more modern/stiffer feel on any vehicle with the 4600
I honestly dont like my 6112 with 5100 in rear. Without going up in price, what is another option?
What don't you like about them?
I have a 2023 Ram classic.
wheels 285/45/22, basically 32in wheel height.
Which one will be better for daily driver, not off-roading at all. Is it worth to install the Bilstain, will have improvement over the stock?
Thank you.
4600s would defintiely be the way to go if you are keeping it stock height and on the road. They should offer may better handling, stability, and comfort over stock.
@@ShockSurplus Thank you, going to install 👍🏽
Would it be the same with a 2.5 inch front level?
Would any of the bilstein 8100 shocks and coils fit a vdj76 series Land Cruiser? I cannot find any on your website or bilstein’s either.
With my 1987 Toyota truck being at stock height, would it be better to purchase the 4600 shocks?
4600
Yes
Rod size is bigger on the 5100, most applications at least.
Maybe that is something they used to do, but on most applications they use the same shaft 14 and 18 mm shafts. The 2.6" body 6112, 8100, and 8112 struts, shocks, and coilovers do get larger shafts though.
I believe I have a very small leveling kit just due to new keys. Will Bilstein 5100 even fit? 2000 Chevy suburban.
The 5100s will work on that leveling kit if the keys aren't maxxed to 3"
@@ShockSurplus thank you :)
Would an all terrain tires between 215/70/16 to 235/65/16 be great from twin tube to 4600 monotube? And not 5100?
Neither option is a big tire by any means so I would stick to a B6.
@@ShockSurplus right on brother 👌🏼
Question: should I always zip-tie the shock's boot to the tube?
It depends on the shock but most shocks that use an accordion style rubber boot will come with or need a zip tie to retain the boot to the body
What size tire is that? I'm running 33 on my 94 bronco all stock except for tires..would I need the 5100 I wonder..🤔
I'd go with the 5100s
I want 5100 compared to Fox 2.0 now for this application
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I have a procomp leveling kit and now my truck sways from left to the right when I hit bumps. I did have the alignment fixed and it's better, but will 5100's eliminate this horizontal sway?
The Bilsteins are digressively valved so they should offer a lot more stability in those conditions, however it sounds like their could be some funky geometry at play if you are getting a little yaw over bumps. What kind of vehicle is it?
I recently bought the 5100 for my f-150 2015 RWD and for some reason the control arm would hit the strut. What could be the reason for this ? I’m on 33s with 18inch rims
This really would only happen if you added a spacer on the 5100 or you were running a 4WD spec 5100 on your 2wd.
So a 2 1/2 level on front and 2 inch lift in back , which one would be a smoother ride?
5100 will be more ideal with a firmer ride.
I have a stock 2014 gmc sierra. It has a stock factory ride height with stock suspension. Only mods are the 17” rims and 33” tires. Will I be fine putting on the 4600 or do i have to go with the 5100? I dont plan on lifting the truck at all.
With the larger tires it would likely be better to run 5100s however you do not have to lift the vehicle to use them.
@@ShockSurplus The 5100s are a bit out of my budget. My truck is my daily driver. I dont tow or go off-road at all. Will the 4600 still be fine?
5100s would certainly be the better choice but 4600s should still work fine
I put 5100s on my pickup (video in my profile), I have 17" wheels with 33" tires, the ride is about as perfect as I could ever need it to be. 2008 GMC Sierra, these pickups go really well with Bilsteins.
@@RedBeardDevelopment Glad to hear, I was worried the 5100’s would be a bit too stiff.
Which better for towing?
they're near identical
For the coil over strut 4600 can you put a 3" lift spring?
You can yes, its ill advised though. You're putting the ride zone at the very top of the travel range, leaving no downward/droop travel left in the shock, you'll feel frequent clunks on bumps or holes.
@ShockSurplus I only say 4600 because of the soft plushy ride. If I run a 5100 with a full 3" coil spring which is recommended for the plush luxury ride coil spring and what rate Maybe 600lb or less? Like stock!
Well explained
Why do bilstein the number as name of the model between 4600 and 5100? Is 4600 represents the 46mm piston?
And 5100 represents 51mm piston or as lifting applications?
4600s and 5100s both use a 46mm piston.
@@ShockSurplusgotcha. I just want to make sure what truly means other than just lifted application for 5100
No that is it. The 5100s struts are ride height adjustable and the shocks are longer and designed for lifts. They are tuned a little firmer as well but outside of that and the zinc plating the internals are identical
@@ShockSurplus so my question is, why bilstein add zinc plated shocks? Instead of paint.
A protective paint last longer than zinc coated.
Why not paint silver gloss for B8/5100 instead? They did on rav4.
Zinc plating will far outlast paint when maintained. If you occasionally spray them with a light lubricant like a teflon spray, the Zinc will basically last forever. It also is a stronger coating that is far less likely to chip when hit with debris. Vehicles that use strut suspension like the RAV4 do not have the same concern about being peppered with debris or getting hung up on a rock, so they went with paint on the B8 Terrasports.
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