If this is simply a projector, what makes TV a TV then? Why not call them displays instead? I believe the video presents a good argument for making the distinction.
@@jaroslavpolakovic7372 if I didn't know any better, and didn't research products, and was an idiot, I'd buy this and probably return it because it's not a tv. Projectors and TV's have been around long enough for people to know the difference.
@@jerry4012 I think you may be missing the point. Yes, right now the term TV usually refers to a device comprised from a TV tuner + computer + speakers + display (panel) integrated into a single unit. The argument here is that this "projector" as you call it also integrates all of this into a single unit, just replaces the "display" part with different technology. If that's enough for the device to cease being a TV, what makes a TV... a TV? Should we drop the term altogether?
Would definitely like you to cover more Laser TV/UST’s. They should improve quite a bit over the next few years. It’s weird that Sony hasn’t updated their UST offering.
I’ve been watching “laser tv” for the last several weeks and love the 120” on my wall to replace my 65” R646. We’re on the same page because my first review of a “laser TV” described it exactly the same !
Contrast in conditions that aren't very dark is always going to be much weaker for projectors than TV. Think of supplementing your 65 incher, not replacing it
I think anything marketed as a "TV" should have an OTA tuner in it. In my opinion, that is the main difference between a TV and a monitor. I'm also for coverage of any kind of projector to be included in the channel. Thanks for the great content!
Yeah, people who are ok with getting a laser UST projector without a TV tuner will know the difference and people buying a TV without knowing much will feel cheated if it doesn't have a tuner.
In the last 10yr (or more) I havent used a tv tuner... its always been a cable box or a android box. The last time I tried an ota antenna and tuner I think I got maybe 3 channels
Actually, if I remember correctly, the first "laser tv" was the one developed by Mitsubishi, about 15 years ago. It was a rear projection tv and called LaserVue. And yes, it used a laser-based light engine and it was a "real" tv. The technology didn't stick at that moment, so Mitsubishi dropped its production a few years later.
I used to sell those, and I have their bulb version, a 62" sitting in my storage room with two new bulbs and a new digital engine, before I put it in storage.
I’ve had my AWOL laser tv with ALR screen for a while now. It’s 120” and now that I hooked it up to a proper sound system, I am more than pleased. Even my bf who’s a snob about his tv set up of 70” was wowed with the quality.
Yes I think they should only have the TV if it has a TV tuner if not I call them UST projectors, and yes I think you should include them in the channel, I love your content and projectors are part of what we review.
This is exactly the product line I've been waiting to mature. I look forward to your reviews and comparison videos of laser televisions vs competing tech in the future!
Caleb after this video, I'm thinking if you could only go back in time to review the big projection TV's in 50" and 55" from the 1980's. If only could make a funny video defining what a "projection TV" is in this decade. Anyone under 50 probably has no idea what that looked like. I'll watch your projection videos. The only thing about them is they do require dark theater rooms and only people that do DIY theater rooms aren't likely to need to UA-cam reviews for a laser projectors. These people make youtube videos showing off in home theater rooms like freaking money is no damn object. These guys know from the start what they want without a projector review. Projectors always work best in dark rooms so that's the biggest drawback about them. On that note, what the youtube influencers' consensus say about TVs over 80" is they recommend that instead of buying these super big Tv's is to just buy a projector. The drawback to super big Tv's is how do you get rid of them when you want to upgrade?So projectors have a real and better purpose. For me a 55" TV is way bigger than anything I really need but I watch those bigger TV reviews anyway.
Seeing that the primary difference between a "television/TV" and a monitor is the presence/lack of a TV tuner. After all, Television means "broadcasting vision from a distance". So, if it has a tuner, it can be called television, and if not, then either a projector (a term already in use) or a monitor. I'd probably settle on projector, since tunerless devices that throw pictures on a flat surface not attached to the device are often called projectors. And if the tech is using lasers over some other image generating tech, I'm fine with that being included. And, if you REALLY want to get pedantic, we've had projection TV's since at least the 1980s. You could call the Hisense device a "Laser Protection TV".
I feel like USTs were a natural evolution of projectors. They were something that was more accessible to those who couldn't fit a full projector in their room or didn't want one hanging from their ceiling, but they were also a lot simpler. No running wires from a projector through the ceiling/walls to a receiver and all that. Everything was in a little box sitting on your media cabinet. Laser TVs are another evolution of that. Now not only do you have all of the "TV" components in the box on your media cabinet, but it also comes with a screen and built-in speakers and a tuner. Accessibility is key and providing everything in one package will attract a lot more potential buyers.
The solution to projectors isn't the projector. It's the reflective surface. When they develop a surface that can reflect to the viewer 1,500 Nits of light WITH! HDMI 2.1 sources. I would say that's a game changer.
Thanks for an informative video. I am a skeptical baby boomer who still believes that there is no rational reason for a screen to be more than 32 inches big. If I want to see a really big screen, I will go to an official movie theatre.
These are projectors and not TVs and calling them "Laser TVs" is misleading. At most they should be called "Front Projection TVs" if they include a TV tuner and speakers. I think calling these things "Ultra Short Throw Projectors" UST, is a far better term.
I had tv that didn't get tv turner i think it was a vizio tv it was stll a tv you dont need tuners. also ust also have speakers built in don't think you ever seen one.
I am using a VAVA Chroma in a dedicated theater room on a 150 inch screen. It is glorious. Lot of new offerings since I bought but I am happy with what I have.
Yeah, and then you have to have a specific color screen or turn the lights out to get a good picture. You'll never get perfect blacks, and you will need a giant bulky projector with loud fans in your entertainment center blowing heat all over the place.
The "Laser TV" is a great option. Except.... in a home theater. My biggest gripe is that to properly locate a center channel is all but impossible. One option was a acoustically transparent screen, but had to be placed at least 10 to 12 inches away from the wall to accommodate a speaker behind it. Too much trouble, so I went with a 77 OLED and called it done.
Truth is it’ll come down to three things 1) Your preference in immersion level/seating distance 2) Frame rate (LTVs are only 60hz @ “4k”, kind of a let down with action films or anything move than a walking pace for that matter) 3) Black levels/ daytime viewing (I can black out my living room so possible work arounds, however, night viewing with moderately lit rooms are 6 out of 10)
@@teofilol2666 I was considering it however I bought my Vava Chroma as a preorder with a 120" screen for $2800 all in. Where as now it's probably $4500-$5000 after tax. So to me that was absolute no brainer but secondly I didn't mention it because is very likely in 4 years "Entry-level" 100" TVs will be in that price range. As for right now you're right UST projectors are half to one third the cost 100" to 100" with equal picture quality and frame rate. Above a 100" USTs are a must as prices sky rocket after that size.
You just got to do it. You have to start reviewing laser TV. It is a trends. It is powerful. Even a cheapskate like me, I'm very interested in laser TV. I'm living in a cave, 🤠🤠🤠😂😂😂, yet I'm very excited with laser TV 😁😁😁. Yes. Definitely you should review laser TV, it is big. Big trending.
Yes please please do UST laser TV reviews! Always new TV tech being covered but so few cover UST ! Not everyone is about the best picture, some are bang for buck which includes size !
One of the things that puts me off Laser TV, is the lifespan of the laser light source! EDIT: Now I'm rich, I'd like to see more reviews of UET TV's! (Ultra Expensive TV) 👍🤣 ANOTHER EDIT: Did I hear $10,000 mentioned? ... I want an ULTRA EXPENSIVE TV, not a cheap $10,000 TV! 👎🤣
It's not a bad idea if Hisense will patent the name LaserTV for themselves. If I'm not mistaken they got sued by Samsung once for using the name QLED on their quantum dot TVs.
I really like your channel! Full supporter but I thought that you were gonna give us like image quality or comparison. Was the same information for ten minutes 😵💫
Yep, I was just going to say that. Rear-projection and included a TV tuner. The only brightness spec I could find was a third-party site claiming 110.88 foot-lamberts, which equates to about 380 nits, which seems kind of low for something they represented as blindingly bright. I wanted one of these badly way back when, but they were extremely expensive and I could never justify it. Now with QD-OLED, I feel the benefits of a laser TV in any form (front or rear projection) are a lot less clear for a general TV buyer. If you're in the market for a projector, though, it probably beats the socks off everything else.
In my opinion it's a projector because it projects images to a blank distant screen, as per the name. A tv is a screen with images produced directly behind it and shown through the screen, with watching consumer-oriented entertainment its main function, such as movies and games from a game console, however many can function well with a gaming computer as well. Monitors, as per the name, are the same but designed for "monitoring" with a computer, typically with a smaller display for use at a desk for more upright, intensive tasks such as editing content, producing music, or even gaming. It's often used for more professional tasks to monitor quality of content or get an optimal view of gameplay for streamers etc. There can be some overlap, especially today in televisions and monitors but overall they have their differences which can usually be distinguished in my opinion. We should keep the terms we've had well-established for years in my opinion, until we have more concrete reason to change said terms. The title had me thinking this was a new tv display technology compared to the likes of OLED, microLED, etc.
If an affordable one that supports 3D and has a low input lag (for gaming) were to be released, I'd jump at it. I love the idea of not having to run cabling through the ceiling in my finished basement to complete my theater system.
@@jdx4174 I did actually! The price is still above what I can afford in the short run, but these projectors look like someone definitely worth following as tech progresses
Note that the Hisense does not call their "C1 4K UHD Triple Color RGB Laser Portable Mini Projector" a TV. An external tuner connected via HDMI might not be a bad thing. That would at least offer the consumer the option of 'upgrading' the Tuner when the OTA TV industry has finally decided what they are going to implement.
I've just moved to laser tv from OLED. The movie immersion is on another level. Yes the blacks could be better but the size more than makes up for it. The overall picture quality is fantastic. The one large negative is setup. It's a real pain in the ass to get lined up with a screen and that's why the laser tv market won't blow up until they're easier to install. And Yes, I'd love to see reviews on Laser Tv's.
@@code3karch Obviously the OLED is better but size is part of the equation and I'll never return to tv's of any kind for movie viewing until they come bigger than 100'' at a decent price. I have 3 OLED's including a 77'' LG CX and my Epson LS800 blows them all away regards movie immersion. The picture quality on the LS800 is fantastic and it's bright enough to even look great with HDR content. The projector also throws a more natural looking image unlike the gloss screened OLED's so is more filmic looking and easier on the eyes. It's only downfall is black levels. Overall contrast is fantastic and the grey blacks are only apparent on the bars in scoped movies or extremely dark scenes where there is no light source in the scene. The blacks on OLED's are fantastic but apart from black bars when watching scoped movies, absolute black is rarely needed as all detail would be crushed. A Laser tv with good brightness and contrast will give the perception of deep blacks to the human eye in all but the most challenging scenes.
@@RobertK1993 OLED's are not without their flaws either. Burn In, Banding near black, Raised Blacks, Crushed Blacks, 24fps stutter, struggle with highly compressed content. Until OLED's come in huge sizes at reasonable prices, Projection is better. If you have the space for a large screen or even just a large wall. Size wins every time.
Peace be with you! I enjoy your channel and thought to take you up on your suggestion to comment on the Phrase “Laser TV’s.” - I own a UST - Love to see UST reviews here - Why not just call them what they are , UST? - An ALR Screen should NOT be an Determining factor because it’s possible to simply project on a wall. After all it’s a Projector. - Like modern day TV’s, the video source can be a DVD, Streaming and TV Tuner but how many people receive over-the-air TV reception? - What’s more important is the device’s built in Streaming Service ie: Google TV, Roku, Apple TV et al, Many people “cutting the cable” want Netflix. Netflix isn’t available on Google TV. So the person would need to purchase a Streaming Box My Humble Opinion
I was bummed to hear that the size of the image cannot be manipulated with these USTPs. On the one hand, I get that it doesn't really matter as the special screens are set sizes. but on the other hand, THEY'RE STILL PROJECTORS! I like to think I could pack up my projector and stream games at a friend's watch party without having to limit the throw canvas to exactly the size predetermined when I bought the projector. it kind of undermines the convenience appeal of a projector that doesn't require mounting or sight lines.
Who cares what you call it all I know is I've owned one for about 4 months and it behaves just as a TV.Would what the exception of I believe this takes longer to actually turn on because the bulb has to heat up. Also depending on the model, response time can be an issue. It's nice to sit anywhere in ur living room and see this beautiful 100" screen. Subtitles very easy to read once you go this big, it's impossible to go back. Vava 4k ust and vava alr 4 me. Got mine on Craigslist for $900. The guy was trying to sell it for months at $1500, then one day boom $900. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Unless you're planning on constructing an 85 inch screen inside your cramped NY apartment, I don't see how transporting a fragile projection screen, fully stretched out, will be that much easier to get inside your apartment than an OLED TV.
I'm about to build a home theater in the basement in the coming 6 months or so. I'm torn between long throw projector or USTs. It'll be light controller room so not a problem for either of them, but while recommendations now are for long throw, i have a gut feeling that all the tech focus are on USTs right now? Just a feeling that they'll advance quick and eventually be super good for a 120" screen.
Us and AegisAV are partnering together with Vividstorm (and hopefully SI) for a single unit (cabinet, screen, projector) with up to 120" floor rising UST screen. We have been exhibiting and installing UST projectors since the Optoma GT5500+ came out, way ahead of a lot of other AV companies. I believe in innovative technology, not brand names. When you have TV's and standard projectors being in the human psyche for decades (in the case of projectors, a millennium), coming up with a new twist on the same concept, is what makes it innovative, especially if it solves multiple issues. UST's solve the big screen enjoyment, in a space that a standard projector can't do and where you can't hang a TV, and get a screen much larger for less. Remember, the numbers go from TV to projection when you go above 85". I can demonstrate a 120" screen in less of a space that you would for a standard couch, and with disappearing screen, you don't have a huge monolith when it is turned off (any TV) or a huge screen on the wall. It makes spouses very happy.
FIRST TIME I WILL CORRECT YOU: LG was the first to launch a LASER TV around 2015… It was a 100 inch short throw projector called laser tv sold at Fry’s electronics. Please check it out and send me a virtual beer 🍻 🍺.
TV technology terms have been super confusing and misapplied for years. People are STILL trying to understand what's meant by "LED TV," most of which are LED-backlit LCD TVs with varying forms of LED backlight.
At the end you said "rear projection system" when I assume you meant to say traditional front projection system (or however you would say non-UST projector). Since rear projection systems are not made anymore and would be even harder to get around corners.
We should look at laser TV from xiaomi, fengmi, appotronics. They have better laser and controller, which can project native contrast at 3000:1. Forget Hisense, changhong, at 1500:1. And traditional projector maker Sony, Epson, Optoma, Samsung, Benq, are all lack of state of art core laser technology, native contrast from their laser TV is under 1000:1 (don't be fooled by their dynamic contrast 1000000:1, that is cheating). Images from projector is the reflection not the light source as from any other format of display. It's natural and comfortable, meanwhileeyes friendly. The picture is super realistic compared with LCD/OLED.
Dr Evil: " You know...I have one simple request: to have TVs with freakin' lasers attached to their heads!!.......Can you remind me what am I paying you people for?!.....Throw me a bone here."
Maybe you should collaborate (or collab/Caleb) with Kleenex. I mean big tissue. UST was supposed to be more screen for the buck and it got way overpriced and requires a fixed or other screen [Monitor vs Television] who cares what it's called? Rhetorical. Especially a laser TV that isn't selling or being really marketed. A TV is a TV......you can call a pancake a TV. I have 2 86" TVs and an 83" TV in my 2 NYC apartments. Maybe you shouldn't have a large TV if you are in a dwelling that can't fit a large TV. I also own 3 USTs and use my least expensive 1080P one, by far the most on my 150" Screen in my bedroom. Too soon
Caleb, could you please review the Hisense 100 inch L9G Series Frickin' Laser TV. How would picture quality compare against an 85 inch Sony X95K? Thanks.
Hinsese Laser TV ( and all shorthrough projector) is a 0.47DMD chipset projector. Theoretically 4k, but the actual resolution is slightly better than 1080p. 0.66 chipset projectors are almost equivalent to 4k. And the laser dlp engine produce noticable rainbow effect.
I beg to differ. I don't care what they call it. All I want is the best image possible from a screen or projector. I don't want or need any "smart" TV functionality. Make them optional. I'm using an OLED LG TV as my main screen for everything, working, gaming and media consumption. And do you know what I don't use? Any of the TV functions. Why? Because my PC does it all better than any other device.
Yes please do and please give the awol some love no one wants to review this but I promise you the 3500 awol is a wonderful tv esp in my living room with skylights right above it and a big triple fixed window on the other side..... Keep up the work enjoy the channel
What about all these people selling LED TV's that are just backlit LCD screens? My friend argued with me for 2 hours about it, he asked me why I paid $2700 for a LG C2, he thought because his tv (Samsung 8000 series) was LED that it was the same as OLED.
As I am watching on my Tri laser UST Projector, U2 JMGO ❤. No ALR Screen yet 😢 ( Ambient Light Rejection/Reflection ) CLR ( Ceiling Ambient Light Rejecting )
Hold the Smartphone! TV is the display on which video is displayed(tele-VISION 🤣). These are projectors; if it has a 'broadcast TV tuner' it is a projector with built-in TV tuner. But very few people are watching broadcast TV. Do you even need a tuner on cable or satellite anymore? Most are software built in driven, have their own channels preset and don't require scanning for channels. Plus,the new over the cellular networks TV as well as wifi allow streaming through apps so no need again for a TV tuner. So, you do not need a tuner to watch displayed video (i.e. streaming or blu ray, etc), but you still are watching a tele-vision, get it. Now, also, you do not need speakers built in, that can not and should not be a requirement. I mean is anyone using a 75-120 inch display not connected to a theater receiver? If they are, they are beyond stupid. OK, everyone?
We need to develop laser TV, so yes, expand our horizons. I currently own a top of the line Samsung 75" QLED Which is absolutely wonderful but I'm always looking for better! Of course I want the best quality yet the smallest footprint and all for free! Fix it would you?
Caleb, personally I don't want you reviewing USTs just for the sake of reviewing USTs. I think their rise in popularity is a symptom of a pretty clear cut problem: 1. most people want a giant ass screen 2. most TV rooms are small 3. most people don't have room for something like your bdi corridor 4. most people don't own the walls they would have to wall mount unto. Alternative mounting solutions to giant tvs is what I think USTs should be compared to, as theyre otherwise technologically inferior. Considering how lightweight the LG C series has gotten, I'm currently torn between going for a heavy duty monitor arm attached to a extra heavy coffee table or something like a perlegear rolling TV stand in its smallest configuration. Considering your access to screens and other tech, I'd kill for your take on this.
Putting semantics aside, I wonder why no one has thought of building a bare bones projector/tv. No fancy speakers, most people have a separate sound system. No TV tuners, that’s what streamers are for. Just need a really good light source. ALR screens are ok. Basically reduce the footprint of USTs. At least there should be options.
CRT front mounted projectors were considered a console TV for its day. Rear projection DLP units that were fully enclosed in the same cabinet that held the speakers, projection screen, tuner, etc. was also known as a projection screen TV. Pico laser projectors have been around for some years now and could be used with external tuners to serve as the TV portion. So I'm not really sure why this is new to you since you review all things digital.
Am I the only one who thinks that an ALR screen ruins half the appeal of UST projectors in an home setting? I don't want a black useless frame on my living room wall....
Okay, how about this: Front Laser Projection Television (FLPTV) Rear Laser Projection Television (RLPTV) We've had rear projection TVs in the past where the lamp shines the light at the back of the screen. Previously, back during 1999 or so, we used to have an RPTV with three light sources (red, green, and blue). In order to ensure the best convergence, each red, green, and blue CRT source has to be adjusted in order to make it white as shown in the grid. Now, would it be possible to have a laser light source projecting from the back of the TV? That reminded me of the DLP from the likes of Mitsubishi TVs?
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If it doesn’t have a TV tuner it cannot be a TV. Without a TV tuner it is simply a screen that projects the images you send to it from some other source, That said it is unlikely the term TV will ever die when referencing large stationary video entertainment screens even if TV tuners do. I know when I watch shows on my IPad that is don’t say Im watching TV - I say I’m watching my iPad. But even though I haven’t had cable for 8 years, when I stream shows or watch a blu ray I mostly say and think of it as watching TV (and I guess I am watching video on a TV even though I’m not using its TV function because my Hisence has a TV tuner.)
Ask Xerox about people using their name when referring to other copy machines, or people saying they will Xerox something. Band-Aid had a similar problem.
you can call it whatever you want, it still won't beat even a cheap flat screen tv in terms of a picture that looks great, day or night!!....until they solve that problem, i'll stick with a flatscreen tv....thank you.........
But a UST projector is a projector. So let’s name the category a UST projector, right? Someone in the market for a UST would no doubt want to pick their own screen, the same way a home theatre enthusiast would for a regular projector.
when people buy a tv they don't go home and call it a sony or a lg or a vizio. as much as sony tried to market "its a sony" people call it a TV. i can understand that laser tv was best chosen instead of laser projector. all marketing projectors have a slight bad generality associated with them. being people think that a projector has to be used in a pitch dark room. and that bulbs get dimmer and need replacing. or that you need a special screen for it.
What about VCR players everything proven there everywhere online now days plus vhs tapes VCR belts cleaning tapes everything proven there not hard finding online it's y'all are hard finding out people are buying them but not y'all
Just call it a laser projector. A screen can be bought in the size you need. A tuner can be bought separately but the trend is streaming. I'd rather buy a monitor and just plug whatever I want in and call it a day. I'm always disappointed in the performance of the built in options anyway.
The FCCs definition of a tv ( esp requiering the the ora tuner) might have made sencewhy back when the standard was deffined, Do it still make sence, whell doesmoste of the liniar programming being consumed in the US today get delivered via ota? If it does, fine lwave the tuner requirement where it is, if not the standard has to be updated
Good marketing points for laser TV. But you stated one really fundamental flaw; if you can get an 85"-100" ALR screen (23kg boxed) to a location, then you can as well get an 85"-100" lcd or oled TV (64kg boxed) there. So really, there isn't a location where you can't get a traditional TV and can get a laser TV.
I disagree. The ALR screens are either disassembled or rolled up and come in a narrow but long box. So, it allows you to take it up stairs easier by carrying it vertically if necessary to get around corners. The maximum TV size that I could get up my stairs without the box would be about 70 inches. You could easily get a 100 inch or more up the stairs with a long narrow box.
Whatever you or anyone else calls it, I will call it a projector because that's what it is
Agreed.
Yup, it's a laser projector
If this is simply a projector, what makes TV a TV then? Why not call them displays instead? I believe the video presents a good argument for making the distinction.
@@jaroslavpolakovic7372 if I didn't know any better, and didn't research products, and was an idiot, I'd buy this and probably return it because it's not a tv. Projectors and TV's have been around long enough for people to know the difference.
@@jerry4012 I think you may be missing the point. Yes, right now the term TV usually refers to a device comprised from a TV tuner + computer + speakers + display (panel) integrated into a single unit. The argument here is that this "projector" as you call it also integrates all of this into a single unit, just replaces the "display" part with different technology. If that's enough for the device to cease being a TV, what makes a TV... a TV? Should we drop the term altogether?
I would definitely like more tests on projection “TV”
Please review 4k projectors
Remember Mitsubishi laservue tv? That thing was a nightmare.
Would definitely like you to cover more Laser TV/UST’s. They should improve quite a bit over the next few years. It’s weird that Sony hasn’t updated their UST offering.
And projector screen too.
I’ve been watching “laser tv” for the last several weeks and love the 120” on my wall to replace my 65” R646. We’re on the same page because my first review of a “laser TV” described it exactly the same !
Contrast in conditions that aren't very dark is always going to be much weaker for projectors than TV. Think of supplementing your 65 incher, not replacing it
Yes please do some reviews on those. We need more consumer education type videos too, like this one!
I think anything marketed as a "TV" should have an OTA tuner in it. In my opinion, that is the main difference between a TV and a monitor. I'm also for coverage of any kind of projector to be included in the channel. Thanks for the great content!
Monitors typically don’t have a scaler, and rely on the device connected to it to scale the image.
Yeah, people who are ok with getting a laser UST projector without a TV tuner will know the difference and people buying a TV without knowing much will feel cheated if it doesn't have a tuner.
In the last 10yr (or more) I havent used a tv tuner... its always been a cable box or a android box. The last time I tried an ota antenna and tuner I think I got maybe 3 channels
Actually, if I remember correctly, the first "laser tv" was the one developed by Mitsubishi, about 15 years ago. It was a rear projection tv and called LaserVue. And yes, it used a laser-based light engine and it was a "real" tv. The technology didn't stick at that moment, so Mitsubishi dropped its production a few years later.
It's essentially the exact same thing. Swap rear projection to the front and move it out of the TV's case
I used to sell those, and I have their bulb version, a 62" sitting in my storage room with two new bulbs and a new digital engine, before I put it in storage.
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Yeah, i was a bit confused about the start. I was waiting for some kind of clarification that never came.
Should read before I comment. Exactly what I thought
I’ve had my AWOL laser tv with ALR screen for a while now. It’s 120” and now that I hooked it up to a proper sound system, I am more than pleased. Even my bf who’s a snob about his tv set up of 70” was wowed with the quality.
There rubbish and way over priced lol.
I have never in my life heard anyone call a pressure cooker anything but a pressure cooker.
I hear insta pot all the time
I call it a rice cooker
Must be regional.
Yes I think they should only have the TV if it has a TV tuner if not I call them UST projectors, and yes I think you should include them in the channel, I love your content and projectors are part of what we review.
This is exactly the product line I've been waiting to mature. I look forward to your reviews and comparison videos of laser televisions vs competing tech in the future!
Caleb after this video, I'm thinking if you could only go back in time to review the big projection TV's in 50" and 55" from the 1980's. If only could make a funny video defining what a "projection TV" is in this decade. Anyone under 50 probably has no idea what that looked like.
I'll watch your projection videos. The only thing about them is they do require dark theater rooms and only people that do DIY theater rooms aren't likely to need to UA-cam reviews for a laser projectors. These people make youtube videos showing off in home theater rooms like freaking money is no damn object. These guys know from the start what they want without a projector review.
Projectors always work best in dark rooms so that's the biggest drawback about them. On that note, what the youtube influencers' consensus say about TVs over 80" is they recommend that instead of buying these super big Tv's is to just buy a projector. The drawback to super big Tv's is how do you get rid of them when you want to upgrade?So projectors have a real and better purpose.
For me a 55" TV is way bigger than anything I really need but I watch those bigger TV reviews anyway.
Seeing that the primary difference between a "television/TV" and a monitor is the presence/lack of a TV tuner. After all, Television means "broadcasting vision from a distance". So, if it has a tuner, it can be called television, and if not, then either a projector (a term already in use) or a monitor. I'd probably settle on projector, since tunerless devices that throw pictures on a flat surface not attached to the device are often called projectors. And if the tech is using lasers over some other image generating tech, I'm fine with that being included. And, if you REALLY want to get pedantic, we've had projection TV's since at least the 1980s. You could call the Hisense device a "Laser Protection TV".
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I just call my Vava Chroma the Best $2800 I’ve spent on a electronic device. 😂🤙🏾
I feel like USTs were a natural evolution of projectors. They were something that was more accessible to those who couldn't fit a full projector in their room or didn't want one hanging from their ceiling, but they were also a lot simpler. No running wires from a projector through the ceiling/walls to a receiver and all that. Everything was in a little box sitting on your media cabinet.
Laser TVs are another evolution of that. Now not only do you have all of the "TV" components in the box on your media cabinet, but it also comes with a screen and built-in speakers and a tuner. Accessibility is key and providing everything in one package will attract a lot more potential buyers.
The solution to projectors isn't the projector. It's the reflective surface. When they develop a surface that can reflect to the viewer 1,500 Nits of light WITH! HDMI 2.1 sources. I would say that's a game changer.
Gotta get that input lag for gaming down too. Some of them are absolutely non starters.
Thanks for an informative video. I am a skeptical baby boomer who still believes that there is no rational reason for a screen to be more than 32 inches big.
If I want to see a really big screen, I will go to an official movie theatre.
LG had a “laser tv” all the way back at CES 2013 FYI. I don’t think Hisense was the first to coin it.
These are projectors and not TVs and calling them "Laser TVs" is misleading. At most they should be called "Front Projection TVs" if they include a TV tuner and speakers. I think calling these things "Ultra Short Throw Projectors" UST, is a far better term.
I had tv that didn't get tv turner i think it was a vizio tv it was stll a tv you dont need tuners. also ust also have speakers built in don't think you ever seen one.
I am using a VAVA Chroma in a dedicated theater room on a 150 inch screen. It is glorious. Lot of new offerings since I bought but I am happy with what I have.
I'm sure it gets nice and warm so my cats will sleep on it. And my pitbulls will knock the stand so this is a hell no
Yeah, and then you have to have a specific color screen or turn the lights out to get a good picture. You'll never get perfect blacks, and you will need a giant bulky projector with loud fans in your entertainment center blowing heat all over the place.
Now I want a video actually showing the product and if it's any good
The "Laser TV" is a great option. Except.... in a home theater. My biggest gripe is that to properly locate a center channel is all but impossible. One option was a acoustically transparent screen, but had to be placed at least 10 to 12 inches away from the wall to accommodate a speaker behind it. Too much trouble, so I went with a 77 OLED and called it done.
I would love to see reviews on the Hisense laser tvs. Wondering how close the value proposition is for these versus a 90"+ traditional TV.
Truth is it’ll come down to three things
1) Your preference in immersion level/seating distance
2) Frame rate (LTVs are only 60hz @ “4k”, kind of a let down with action films or anything move than a walking pace for that matter)
3) Black levels/ daytime viewing (I can black out my living room so possible work arounds, however, night viewing with moderately lit rooms are 6 out of 10)
@@djparra41 you should talk about the price difference also.
@@teofilol2666 I was considering it however I bought my Vava Chroma as a preorder with a 120" screen for $2800 all in. Where as now it's probably $4500-$5000 after tax. So to me that was absolute no brainer but secondly I didn't mention it because is very likely in 4 years "Entry-level" 100" TVs will be in that price range. As for right now you're right UST projectors are half to one third the cost 100" to 100" with equal picture quality and frame rate. Above a 100" USTs are a must as prices sky rocket after that size.
after 3:06 u can close this video , your welcome
"frickin’ laser beams" Dr. Evil 😆
I want sharks with friggin laser tvs attached to their heads!
2:05 I mean CRT TVs were a thing for 80+ years... If you could use a cathode ray to light a screen you could probably use a laser to light a screen.
Would love to see more UST LTV content, seeing as it’s looking like the pricing of them compete with most mid/high level tv’s
You just got to do it. You have to start reviewing laser TV. It is a trends. It is powerful. Even a cheapskate like me, I'm very interested in laser TV. I'm living in a cave, 🤠🤠🤠😂😂😂, yet I'm very excited with laser TV 😁😁😁. Yes. Definitely you should review laser TV, it is big. Big trending.
Yes please please do UST laser TV reviews! Always new TV tech being covered but so few cover UST ! Not everyone is about the best picture, some are bang for buck which includes size !
One of the things that puts me off Laser TV, is the lifespan of the laser light source!
EDIT: Now I'm rich, I'd like to see more reviews of UET TV's! (Ultra Expensive TV) 👍🤣
ANOTHER EDIT: Did I hear $10,000 mentioned? ... I want an ULTRA EXPENSIVE TV, not a cheap $10,000 TV! 👎🤣
It's not a bad idea if Hisense will patent the name LaserTV for themselves. If I'm not mistaken they got sued by Samsung once for using the name QLED on their quantum dot TVs.
I really like your channel! Full supporter but I thought that you were gonna give us like image quality or comparison.
Was the same information for ten minutes 😵💫
I think the LaserVue tv by Mitsubishi was probably the first laser tv.
Yep, I was just going to say that. Rear-projection and included a TV tuner. The only brightness spec I could find was a third-party site claiming 110.88 foot-lamberts, which equates to about 380 nits, which seems kind of low for something they represented as blindingly bright. I wanted one of these badly way back when, but they were extremely expensive and I could never justify it.
Now with QD-OLED, I feel the benefits of a laser TV in any form (front or rear projection) are a lot less clear for a general TV buyer. If you're in the market for a projector, though, it probably beats the socks off everything else.
LG had a short throw Laser projector many years ago, it was called Hugo AFAIR and the Hugo 2 did not materialise.
In my opinion it's a projector because it projects images to a blank distant screen, as per the name. A tv is a screen with images produced directly behind it and shown through the screen, with watching consumer-oriented entertainment its main function, such as movies and games from a game console, however many can function well with a gaming computer as well. Monitors, as per the name, are the same but designed for "monitoring" with a computer, typically with a smaller display for use at a desk for more upright, intensive tasks such as editing content, producing music, or even gaming. It's often used for more professional tasks to monitor quality of content or get an optimal view of gameplay for streamers etc. There can be some overlap, especially today in televisions and monitors but overall they have their differences which can usually be distinguished in my opinion. We should keep the terms we've had well-established for years in my opinion, until we have more concrete reason to change said terms. The title had me thinking this was a new tv display technology compared to the likes of OLED, microLED, etc.
If an affordable one that supports 3D and has a low input lag (for gaming) were to be released, I'd jump at it. I love the idea of not having to run cabling through the ceiling in my finished basement to complete my theater system.
Now that we have the Awol Vision 3000 and 3500pro, did you get one?
@@jdx4174 I did actually! The price is still above what I can afford in the short run, but these projectors look like someone definitely worth following as tech progresses
I recently got a laser projector not a UST and a fixed screen size is stupid , im at 175" and going down to 120" would be huge let down
Note that the Hisense does not call their "C1 4K UHD Triple Color RGB Laser Portable Mini Projector" a TV.
An external tuner connected via HDMI might not be a bad thing. That would at least offer the consumer the option of 'upgrading' the Tuner when the OTA TV industry has finally decided what they are going to implement.
I've just moved to laser tv from OLED. The movie immersion is on another level. Yes the blacks could be better but the size more than makes up for it. The overall picture quality is fantastic. The one large negative is setup. It's a real pain in the ass to get lined up with a screen and that's why the laser tv market won't blow up until they're easier to install.
And Yes, I'd love to see reviews on Laser Tv's.
If size was not part of the equation, which tv do you prefer for picture quality overall? OLED or Laser?
OLED is better
@@code3karch OLED is better laser has black level issues meaning worse then LED/Mini LED
@@code3karch Obviously the OLED is better but size is part of the equation and I'll never return to tv's of any kind for movie viewing until they come bigger than 100'' at a decent price. I have 3 OLED's including a 77'' LG CX and my Epson LS800 blows them all away regards movie immersion.
The picture quality on the LS800 is fantastic and it's bright enough to even look great with HDR content. The projector also throws a more natural looking image unlike the gloss screened OLED's so is more filmic looking and easier on the eyes.
It's only downfall is black levels. Overall contrast is fantastic and the grey blacks are only apparent on the bars in scoped movies or extremely dark scenes where there is no light source in the scene.
The blacks on OLED's are fantastic but apart from black bars when watching scoped movies, absolute black is rarely needed as all detail would be crushed. A Laser tv with good brightness and contrast will give the perception of deep blacks to the human eye in all but the most challenging scenes.
@@RobertK1993 OLED's are not without their flaws either. Burn In, Banding near black, Raised Blacks, Crushed Blacks, 24fps stutter, struggle with highly compressed content.
Until OLED's come in huge sizes at reasonable prices, Projection is better. If you have the space for a large screen or even just a large wall. Size wins every time.
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Peace be with you! I enjoy your channel and thought to take you up on your suggestion to comment on the Phrase “Laser TV’s.”
- I own a UST
- Love to see UST reviews here
- Why not just call them what they are , UST?
- An ALR Screen should NOT be an Determining factor because it’s possible to simply project on a wall. After all it’s a Projector.
- Like modern day TV’s, the video source can be a DVD, Streaming and TV Tuner but how many people receive over-the-air TV reception?
- What’s more important is the device’s built in Streaming Service ie: Google TV, Roku, Apple TV et al, Many people “cutting the cable” want Netflix. Netflix isn’t available on Google TV. So the person would need to purchase a Streaming Box
My Humble Opinion
It’s an ultra short throw laser projector.
I was bummed to hear that the size of the image cannot be manipulated with these USTPs. On the one hand, I get that it doesn't really matter as the special screens are set sizes. but on the other hand, THEY'RE STILL PROJECTORS! I like to think I could pack up my projector and stream games at a friend's watch party without having to limit the throw canvas to exactly the size predetermined when I bought the projector. it kind of undermines the convenience appeal of a projector that doesn't require mounting or sight lines.
Who cares what you call it all I know is I've owned one for about 4 months and it behaves just as a TV.Would what the exception of I believe this takes longer to actually turn on because the bulb has to heat up. Also depending on the model, response time can be an issue. It's nice to sit anywhere in ur living room and see this beautiful 100" screen. Subtitles very easy to read once you go this big, it's impossible to go back. Vava 4k ust and vava alr 4 me. Got mine on Craigslist for $900. The guy was trying to sell it for months at $1500, then one day boom $900. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
*30fps looks better than 24*
Unless you're planning on constructing an 85 inch screen inside your cramped NY apartment, I don't see how transporting a fragile projection screen, fully stretched out, will be that much easier to get inside your apartment than an OLED TV.
I'm about to build a home theater in the basement in the coming 6 months or so. I'm torn between long throw projector or USTs. It'll be light controller room so not a problem for either of them, but while recommendations now are for long throw, i have a gut feeling that all the tech focus are on USTs right now? Just a feeling that they'll advance quick and eventually be super good for a 120" screen.
Us and AegisAV are partnering together with Vividstorm (and hopefully SI) for a single unit (cabinet, screen, projector) with up to 120" floor rising UST screen. We have been exhibiting and installing UST projectors since the Optoma GT5500+ came out, way ahead of a lot of other AV companies. I believe in innovative technology, not brand names. When you have TV's and standard projectors being in the human psyche for decades (in the case of projectors, a millennium), coming up with a new twist on the same concept, is what makes it innovative, especially if it solves multiple issues. UST's solve the big screen enjoyment, in a space that a standard projector can't do and where you can't hang a TV, and get a screen much larger for less. Remember, the numbers go from TV to projection when you go above 85". I can demonstrate a 120" screen in less of a space that you would for a standard couch, and with disappearing screen, you don't have a huge monolith when it is turned off (any TV) or a huge screen on the wall. It makes spouses very happy.
FIRST TIME I WILL CORRECT YOU:
LG was the first to launch a LASER TV around 2015…
It was a 100 inch short throw projector called laser tv sold at Fry’s electronics.
Please check it out and send me a virtual beer 🍻 🍺.
TV technology terms have been super confusing and misapplied for years. People are STILL trying to understand what's meant by "LED TV," most of which are LED-backlit LCD TVs with varying forms of LED backlight.
At the end you said "rear projection system" when I assume you meant to say traditional front projection system (or however you would say non-UST projector). Since rear projection systems are not made anymore and would be even harder to get around corners.
We should look at laser TV from xiaomi, fengmi, appotronics. They have better laser and controller, which can project native contrast at 3000:1. Forget Hisense, changhong, at 1500:1. And traditional projector maker Sony, Epson, Optoma, Samsung, Benq, are all lack of state of art core laser technology, native contrast from their laser TV is under 1000:1 (don't be fooled by their dynamic contrast 1000000:1, that is cheating). Images from projector is the reflection not the light source as from any other format of display. It's natural and comfortable, meanwhileeyes friendly. The picture is super realistic compared with LCD/OLED.
Dr Evil: " You know...I have one simple request: to have TVs with freakin' lasers attached to their heads!!.......Can you remind me what am I paying you people for?!.....Throw me a bone here."
Maybe you should collaborate (or collab/Caleb) with Kleenex. I mean big tissue. UST was supposed to be more screen for the buck and it got way overpriced and requires a fixed or other screen [Monitor vs Television] who cares what it's called? Rhetorical. Especially a laser TV that isn't selling or being really marketed. A TV is a TV......you can call a pancake a TV. I have 2 86" TVs and an 83" TV in my 2 NYC apartments. Maybe you shouldn't have a large TV if you are in a dwelling that can't fit a large TV. I also own 3 USTs and use my least expensive 1080P one, by far the most on my 150" Screen in my bedroom. Too soon
Caleb, could you please review the Hisense 100 inch L9G Series Frickin' Laser TV. How would picture quality compare against an 85 inch Sony X95K? Thanks.
The fact that these can be used in a lit room is a huge selling point. Ive played PS5 on one of these and it was amazing
Hinsese Laser TV ( and all shorthrough projector) is a 0.47DMD chipset projector. Theoretically 4k, but the actual resolution is slightly better than 1080p. 0.66 chipset projectors are almost equivalent to 4k. And the laser dlp engine produce noticable rainbow effect.
I beg to differ. I don't care what they call it.
All I want is the best image possible from a screen or projector. I don't want or need any "smart" TV functionality. Make them optional.
I'm using an OLED LG TV as my main screen for everything, working, gaming and media consumption.
And do you know what I don't use? Any of the TV functions. Why? Because my PC does it all better than any other device.
Yes please do and please give the awol some love no one wants to review this but I promise you the 3500 awol is a wonderful tv esp in my living room with skylights right above it and a big triple fixed window on the other side..... Keep up the work enjoy the channel
What about all these people selling LED TV's that are just backlit LCD screens? My friend argued with me for 2 hours about it, he asked me why I paid $2700 for a LG C2, he thought because his tv (Samsung 8000 series) was LED that it was the same as OLED.
As I am watching on my Tri laser UST Projector, U2 JMGO ❤. No ALR Screen yet 😢
( Ambient Light Rejection/Reflection ) CLR ( Ceiling Ambient Light Rejecting )
Hold the Smartphone! TV is the display on which video is displayed(tele-VISION 🤣). These are projectors; if it has a 'broadcast TV tuner' it is a projector with built-in TV tuner. But very few people are watching broadcast TV. Do you even need a tuner on cable or satellite anymore? Most are software built in driven, have their own channels preset and don't require scanning for channels. Plus,the new over the cellular networks TV as well as wifi allow streaming through apps so no need again for a TV tuner. So, you do not need a tuner to watch displayed video (i.e. streaming or blu ray, etc), but you still are watching a tele-vision, get it. Now, also, you do not need speakers built in, that can not and should not be a requirement. I mean is anyone using a 75-120 inch display not connected to a theater receiver? If they are, they are beyond stupid. OK, everyone?
We need to develop laser TV, so yes, expand our horizons. I currently own a top of the line Samsung 75" QLED Which is absolutely wonderful but I'm always looking for better! Of course I want the best quality yet the smallest footprint and all for free! Fix it would you?
Caleb, personally I don't want you reviewing USTs just for the sake of reviewing USTs. I think their rise in popularity is a symptom of a pretty clear cut problem:
1. most people want a giant ass screen
2. most TV rooms are small
3. most people don't have room for something like your bdi corridor
4. most people don't own the walls they would have to wall mount unto.
Alternative mounting solutions to giant tvs is what I think USTs should be compared to, as theyre otherwise technologically inferior. Considering how lightweight the LG C series has gotten, I'm currently torn between going for a heavy duty monitor arm attached to a extra heavy coffee table or something like a perlegear rolling TV stand in its smallest configuration.
Considering your access to screens and other tech, I'd kill for your take on this.
Putting semantics aside, I wonder why no one has thought of building a bare bones projector/tv. No fancy speakers, most people have a separate sound system. No TV tuners, that’s what streamers are for. Just need a really good light source. ALR screens are ok. Basically reduce the footprint of USTs. At least there should be options.
what happened to HDI 3dLaserTV 1,000Hz or Mitsubishi LaserVue?
Yes please review Laser TV’s/short throw projectors…
CRT front mounted projectors were considered a console TV for its day. Rear projection DLP units that were fully enclosed in the same cabinet that held the speakers, projection screen, tuner, etc. was also known as a projection screen TV. Pico laser projectors have been around for some years now and could be used with external tuners to serve as the TV portion. So I'm not really sure why this is new to you since you review all things digital.
88% into triggering the costco ust. Glad I didn't. Pheww!
I'm waiting for Sony to make their new UST. I'll buy one then.
Very informative. But what does the image look like? How's the quality?
Am I the only one who thinks that an ALR screen ruins half the appeal of UST projectors in an home setting? I don't want a black useless frame on my living room wall....
huge miss here, should have used "all Jacuzzi's are hot tubs but not all hot tubs are Jacuzzi's..." instead of "instapot".. LOL
I'm glad someone has said it that all these projectors should come with an ALR screen at that price point 😁
Didn't they introduce a couple flatscreens that had a laser backlight years ago? It seemed like it had some buzz but then vanished quickly.
Total yes to reviewing laser tv and ust
Okay, how about this:
Front Laser Projection Television (FLPTV)
Rear Laser Projection Television (RLPTV)
We've had rear projection TVs in the past where the lamp shines the light at the back of the screen. Previously, back during 1999 or so, we used to have an RPTV with three light sources (red, green, and blue). In order to ensure the best convergence, each red, green, and blue CRT source has to be adjusted in order to make it white as shown in the grid.
Now, would it be possible to have a laser light source projecting from the back of the TV? That reminded me of the DLP from the likes of Mitsubishi TVs?
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If it doesn’t have a TV tuner it cannot be a TV. Without a TV tuner it is simply a screen that projects the images you send to it from some other source, That said it is unlikely the term TV will ever die when referencing large stationary video entertainment screens even if TV tuners do. I know when I watch shows on my IPad that is don’t say Im watching TV - I say I’m watching my iPad. But even though I haven’t had cable for 8 years, when I stream shows or watch a blu ray I mostly say and think of it as watching TV (and I guess I am watching video on a TV even though I’m not using its TV function because my Hisence has a TV tuner.)
I'm old enough to remember Mitsubishi marketing a laser TV well before Hisense. They were rear projection, but still.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I don’t care about TVs. Where can I get 100 inch monitor and plug in my Apple TV?
I personally don't see the point of uht projectors or "Lazer TVs". They're more expensive than projectors, but not as good as TVs...
Sony XBR72.......I don't think it is a camera/content problem, as the corners have been dark from the day it came home 2 years ago.
This is what Samsung’s The Frame needed to be! And it’ll be cool to see Samsung fully release this in a few years.
Ask Xerox about people using their name when referring to other copy machines, or people saying they will Xerox something. Band-Aid had a similar problem.
I want a Laser "TV" picture machine, without speakers and apps optimized just for best picture quality!
you can call it whatever you want, it still won't beat
even a cheap flat screen tv in terms of a picture that
looks great, day or night!!....until they solve that
problem, i'll stick with a flatscreen tv....thank you.........
But a UST projector is a projector. So let’s name the category a UST projector, right?
Someone in the market for a UST would no doubt want to pick their own screen, the same way a home theatre enthusiast would for a regular projector.
I actually didnt know brands were still doing Laser UST Projectors, I only knew about the 2013 LG model that cost over 10 Grand.
when people buy a tv they don't go home and call it a sony or a lg or a vizio. as much as sony tried to market "its a sony" people call it a TV. i can understand that laser tv was best chosen instead of laser projector. all marketing projectors have a slight bad generality associated with them. being people think that a projector has to be used in a pitch dark room. and that bulbs get dimmer and need replacing. or that you need a special screen for it.
Why? Do i want this??? Unless you have a man cave for giant size screens. Most 99% we do not.. just buy a TV 📺
What about VCR players everything proven there everywhere online now days plus vhs tapes VCR belts cleaning tapes everything proven there not hard finding online it's y'all are hard finding out people are buying them but not y'all
Just call it a laser projector. A screen can be bought in the size you need. A tuner can be bought separately but the trend is streaming. I'd rather buy a monitor and just plug whatever I want in and call it a day. I'm always disappointed in the performance of the built in options anyway.
I thought you would mention Mitsubishi Laser TV that wasn't a projector that came out way before Hisense short throw projector.
The FCCs definition of a tv ( esp requiering the the ora tuner) might have made sencewhy back when the standard was deffined, Do it still make sence, whell doesmoste of the liniar programming being consumed in the US today get delivered via ota? If it does, fine lwave the tuner requirement where it is, if not the standard has to be updated
Good marketing points for laser TV. But you stated one really fundamental flaw; if you can get an 85"-100" ALR screen (23kg boxed) to a location, then you can as well get an 85"-100" lcd or oled TV (64kg boxed) there.
So really, there isn't a location where you can't get a traditional TV and can get a laser TV.
I disagree. The ALR screens are either disassembled or rolled up and come in a narrow but long box. So, it allows you to take it up stairs easier by carrying it vertically if necessary to get around corners. The maximum TV size that I could get up my stairs without the box would be about 70 inches. You could easily get a 100 inch or more up the stairs with a long narrow box.
It looks like Hisense forgot about having some contrast to that picture. That looks more washed out than the cheapest LCD side/top/bottom lit TV.