I am 100% pulling for mavuika i love her but honestly she's the least future proof archon ive seen so far , because 1) shes a dps , will get powercrept eventually 2) to maximize her potential you need someone from natlan , thats fine but what would happen when natlan version is over and we get better supports and subdps who are not from natlan but you cant really use them with mavuika cause she needs a natlan character for the extra damage boost and fast elemental burst , characters from future regions wont be able to maximize her potential so she'll be kinda locked to version 5 characters that is not very future proof is it? or am i just entirely wrong?
The last statement about “Everyone needs certain characters to be great.” Is so true. Like why people acting like Neuvi’s best team doesn’t consist of certain characters
@@Evil-hybrid I used to play C0R1 Neuvillette with kuki, kazuha and one more different element character (can't remember who) and he was already hitting for around 30k per tick, which is pretty amazing given that the only buffer was kazuha while the other 2 were just there for reaction to activate his passive. Now I got C1 Neuvillette + Sigewinne + Kazuha + Xilonen R1, he's hitting for about 70-76k per tick, pretty sure if I added C0 Furina he will be hitting for about 90k and probably over 100k with C3 Furina. The thing about Neuvillette is that he plays similarly to Chasca, just throw random element teammates and he is good to go.
@ That’s what I mean though….. Good does not equal great….. sure you can through in any element in Neuvi team but he won’t be great he’d be good…. But throw in certain characters he is gonna be great…. Same with Mavuika throw in any element she is gonna be good…. Throw in certain Characters she’s gonna be awesome…. It’s the same thing…. Every character has restrictions at the end of the day it’s about who is outputting the most damage on your account…. And put every character with their best team Mavuika is gonna be the best dps in the game
Neuvi doesn't need them though, I've been using him since Mondstadt and even capped at lvl 40 he still did his job up to Inazuma. Unless you count Hu Tao and Barbara as support.
@Seraph_op OH boy, you definitely did not play abyss. The HP enemies have in abyss are way too big and neuvillete absolute needs 2 or more supports to work, and since he's an hp scaler Bannet doesn't work for him so you need something like Furina, Citali, Kazuha or xilonem. You can run him with F2P options like VV artifact with ameno traveler or the new Lan yan also with VV you still have a huge dps lost. Also bloom teams without Nahida straight up doesn't work
I just realized that Xilonen is the Furina of the region. Furina's f2p weapon is the fishing one and Hoyo gave out 3 copies of Xilonen's craftable weapon. Mavuika is Neuvillette in a different color. So many people complaining about nightsoul this, nightsoul that, but realistically Neuvillette always wants a hydro unit on his team as a starting point to maximize his damage. They both have a strong recommended c1. It's made all the complaining infinitely funnier to me.
Why would you even defend that? If they powercreep Furina you can just replace her and call it a day Neuvi doesn't care, not with Mavuika if any of her teammates become obsolete so does Mavuika because of her reliance on Natlan characters. Sure I like the idea of synergy but being "forced" to get Xilonen is just bad.
Nah Neuvillette doesnt want another hydro unless you have C1 furina is the only hydro character im pretty sure who provides more than the last stack can offer
@@Seraph_op You think it's a defense because you have warm fuzzy feelings about Neuvillette. I never said that. It's a criticism of both units. Red corrected me on my understanding of Neuvillette. My info was wrong because everyone I knew played them together. I should have pointed out the "shield at c0" thing.
Tips for mavuika or arle summons Are u a meta player? Are u planning on pulling xilonen and or citlali ever? If both answers are yes u should pull if not u can choose tbh. Arle can be played in melt citlali, vape yelan, mono pyro, overload and all of those teams are pretty comparable to eachother. On the other hand mavuika in melt outshines any arle team, vape is prob comparable, and mono pyro and overload arle prob takes it
@@feinbria tbh i got my info from theorycrafters so until she is in the game u cant be 100% sure from what i’ve seen tho. Mavuika bennet is pretty much a must kinda like arle bennet so now for teams. Best will be 1)mavuika, bennet, xilonen, citlali 2)mavuika, bennet, citalli, sucrose 3) mav, ben, citlali, rosaria 4) mav, ben, furina, xilonen 5,6) mav, ben, ororon, chevreuse maybe / mono pyro These are just the highest dps teams for her but imo xilonen is still a better pull than citlali but for mavuika specifically citlali is on paper the best unit cuz she applies cryo (i still recommend waiting a bit after her banner this dude and other ytbers will pull her and test her out and if u like what u see then pull)
@@feinbriaild suggest sucrose or Kazuha instead of furina instead because in a Citlali Furina team what will happen against enemies that can't be frozen like a boss is that both cryo and hydro will end up cancelling each other instead leaving u to neither hydro nor cryo to vape or melt
The only limited 5 star i have is Yelan , and from standard banner diluc and mona and for support i have bennet(C5, have c6 but havent activated it yet) , do you think Mavuika well pair well with yelan? and yes i do plan on pulling for xilonen but i will have no more primos after getting mavuika and my luck is really bad so idk if i'll get her on her rerun
@ yelan bennet arle are a great combo already but its a bit hard to play. Mavuika with yelan is possible but u have to use charge attacks. Hmmm tbh i’m not 100 % sure whats for the best for a new account but what i can say is that mavuika is also a support so i lean towards her. And even if u dont pull mavuika pulling for xilonen is always a good choice for pretty much every dps… except anemo and dendro
My guy…. Burst crit chances have always been different per enemy😭😭 hu taos burst sometimes crits on one but the one next to it doesn’t. (Or maybe thats just hu tao and i’m being the stupid one here but as far as i know crits chances are always different per enemy)
Yeah this is very silly, crit applies per hit... so hitting two enemies is two different hits, same as if you did 2 normal attacks and one crits and the other doesn't
Imagine if your Yelan Burst just decided to not crit even once for it's whole duration when you activated it... everyone would be runnibg 100% critrate builds or doing some stupud speedrun Andy resets.
Honestly, when I first saw Genshin Himeko, I thought shed be a brawler like Dehya or Rizzly. That being said, she looks fun and shes Himeko, so I have to pull. I hope when the update comes, we get some narrative info on the bike. Not that it takes much to believe a motorcycle could be made in Teyvat.
@ Well Im not even talking about that, how many times have we found a advanced “relic” from the past? You’re telling me in the history of Teyvat, there were to motorized vehicles? You have witches that traverse worlds bring technology from other places as well, is that too much? Why is it only for Mauvika? Would I prefer her bike only be for traversing and that she fights like a mix of Itto and Dehya? Sure, but I’m not put off by it. I like Neuv as a character but his gameplay is bland but he gets no hate cause big damage.
Im pretty sure Xilonen made it, I know Xilonen made chascas gun but idk. Would make sense since it kind of explains why xilonen is such a broken support.
@TheGenshinIdiot I just don't understand the hate. Does it come out of nowhere? Yes, completely agree, but all the nonsense relics and tech we've seen and a motorcycle crosses the line? Then there's the criticism of her gameplay. Like I said, Neuv is a great unit but his gameplay is so stiff, but he gets a pass? Make it make sense.
I love the fact that everyone is fighting and arguing over Mavuika vs Arlecchino! Meanwhile there’s me in the corner loving both and will be playing both
All this crap about Arlechinno is just getting annoying, just go for who you want honestly this wouldn't be a problem if she wasn't phase 2. And if you're of those Arle simps saying Mavuika will never sell well just know she's on of the most anticipated Archons to date so you'll definitely be wrong. Plus the same was said about Furina before release and looked what happened. I'm sorry for being heated but I hate when people take "this favorite character" nonsense too far, even to the point of straight up telling people not to pull for a character unless it's their favorite (their as in the people saying don't pull). Go for who you want and that's all it's baffles me how to this day most still don't understand that. The game has no meta, or no need for it, the game has no competition, the game is mainly solo focused so stop trying to play the game for others when it's supposed to be their own experience not yours. Apologies. All that nonsense is also why I absolutely despise havong character kits leaked before release, animations were okay but having the kits is a bit too far especially if it brings up stuff like this.
@@TheGenshinIdiot I think they were talking about people in the comments and those on twitter (especially twitter, they take the mavuika hate to the max)
Damage regardless of whether single target of hordes per hit always counts as individual damage. AoE damage have individual damage count per target, meaning not every single hit will be crit as long as you have
i mean did you expect him to know all the nitty gritty stuff and mechanics of genshin? he's just a genshin content creator and influencer whose content is directly impacting his viewer's perception of the game amiright?
How do you think Mav’s burst will interact with Raiden’s ultimate ring regarding the ultimate cost since fighting spirit is different from regular energy? I’d love to use both in the same team.
hi, just wondering, among the f2p weapons, which is better so I can start farming for it, is it the fontaine craftable or the natlan one?. If one of them is yes, do I go for atck or em sands?
@@Bored_And_Geeky this is a tough question. You will need to wait for guide makers to do the testing and damage calculations to know which is better. Weapon and her constellations are very good damage increase, especially C2 since it increases her BASE attack by 200, meaning atk% substats also increase based on this extra 200 BASE attack, and also her tap E fire ring reduce nearby enemy defense by 20%, or bike mode gets increased DMG multiplier
I can give a good, probably not honestly. If you dont have Natlan characters you basically have to use her as an off field support. We will see how good that is.
If i have Arataki ittos 5* weapon should i skip mavuikas 5* weapon and go for mavuika and citlali? Honestly at most my budget this month would be $180.
Yes, getting Citlali is more of a priority than getting Mavuika's weapon especially if you don't have xilonen. It would go like this: Mavuika > Citlali > Mavuika's wep in terms of priority. Arguably even some Mavuika constellations are better than the wep especially if u got itto's wep @@Raiden-the-Goat32
Sorry but I wanna know this since I had argument with my friends about pulling her, so basically if i pull both mavuika and her wp and then I go for granny cyro... Should I also need to pull granny wp? If yes then maybe granny cyro need to be skip
Granny got TTDS, Sacrificial fragments and other catalyst options. No need for signature (tho its still a big upgrade, but Citlali is good on baseline).
@@Seraph_op I had 390 wish fate so I can hardly say even I get granny weapon I can still go for another round for mavuika wp, and also thanks for the advice guy's
i agree with u ... every character needs support and mav needs xilonen who is not at all a bad character .... she is best dps and she is coming to increase pyro ceiling
I dont think this was uncalled for because its apart of the conversation people comparing Neuvillette and Mavuika. Sure if you care about soloing I dont think mavuika isnt going to be good at all for that but I also think 99.9% of people dont try and Solo abyss.
@TheGenshinIdiot Alright, if it's in direct response to people comparing Mavuika to Neuvilette, then that's one thing. But let's not pretend that he wasn't the single strongest character this game had seen for over an entire year up until this point. He was OP even before Furina and Xilonen released. It seems a touch disingenuous to say he's reliant on the strongest supports in the game, when 1: he’s honestly not and, 2: literally every character in the game is better with strong supports like these guys. Now a disclaimer, I am neither a Neuvilette haver, or wanter. In fact, I am going all in on Mavuika, and am never looking back. I don't disagree Mavuika will be stronger than our resident Dragon Judge in a few days. But I know Neuvilette will still singlehandedly carry accounts.
@@Xotwod-t8k I do 100k vape with white tassle and my Bennet is not LVL 90 neither his weapon. arlecchino vape can reach around 200k or even more depending on the bond of Life
@@bahjin2683 I expect Furina next patch after Mavuika, assuming it takes you 180 pulls each for Mav & Citlali that leaves you with 40 and you still can get like 80+ from the new update I think, so even with really bad luck you should have enough.
The year is 2027, all the Natlan supports can't keep up with the newest Spiral Abyss. Arlecchino is the strongest Pyro DPS in the game, because she can use the newer supports, while Mavuika is still stuck with Xilonen or Citlali, both of whom have been powercrept to oblivion. Furina is still the strongest character in the game, by the way.
C1 seems like the better overall pick because it reduces the burden to use her with other character’s in IT. But I wanna try and go for both if i’m lucky.
Personally, I won't be using Mavuika strictly as a DPS so I'm going to prioritize her weapon and cons since they allow her to be more versatile and her C1 while not busted is a QoL and one step closer to the goated C2, but if you are looking to use her as one of you go to teams for abyss, TGS (the genshin scientist) says that the order should be Xilonen -> Citlali -> Then Mavuika Sig and Cons. so on and so forth.
Hmm its just my opinion but i would ignore everyone else who replied to u. First of all c1 gives u a slight damage upgrade but thats not the reason u pull. It makes it possible to not use natlan characters but that doesn’t change the fact that her optimal teams still have them. Her c1 also makes it her e tap duration last longer making it harder to use with wrio. Mavuikas weapon is overal the better pull damage wise by far but if u really want to know i recommend watching a video from theorycrafters (tgs just made one. Watch that instead of asking here)
at least mavuika isn't starved for crit rate like raiden, getting 100% crit rate on mavuika will be pretty easy. think my set is at 99% with beacon, thats why I might just skip her weapon for now.
@TheGenshinIdiot hehehehe, If Pyro Traveler's ticks were also every 2s it would've been nice, I hope it'll be in his constellations hehehehe, for F2P Chevreuse teams with cinder city buff (Clorinde)
Not really you can always change opinions but I doubt Hoyo will change numbers after her banner like they did with Zhongli. In my opinion they should lower her nightsoul requirement so that any single Natlan teammate is enough.
Crits are always per hit/enemy dependent. So no one attack will always crit on all enemies if not at 100%, RNG is the biggest bi********* after all lol.
I’ve never understood the hate on Mavuika. She’s restrictive, yes, a character that busted needs to be or say goodbye to game balance and the slow power creep everyone loves about genshin. Furina is also restrictive, I see ppl say you can use any healer though, and it’s just that. Unless, you’re plunging, furina forces you to run a character you get nothin but healing from. Mavuika wants you to run a natlan character which is most likely offering a lot more to the team, citlali, xilonen. Furina makes healers relevant. Mavuika does not make natlan characters relevant, they are already useful on their own. I love Furina, but I personally prefer Mavuika’s restriction even at this point with limited natlan characters
I never understood this why does Furina need a healer? She can heal herself and I'm not talking about her C6. But imagine Furina forced you to use Xianyun because other healers couldn't generate her points or just like a 10%, that would be the same situation.
@ furina healing herself is furina with no dmg. She doesn’t force you to use xilonen, just her best option. Just as furina has a best option for healer
Lol people are not downplaying Mavuika's damage, the problem is the fighting spirit generation. C0 kachina only gives 60 points, draining 10 every 2 s, total duration to drain is 12s (unless you waste time riding whirly twirly and jumping) mavuika herself has 80 points, total 60+80=140. Normal attacks generate FS too damn slow, lets say you hit 2 times/s for 10s, total only generating 30 FS. So now you have 170 points. Are you going to use NA for another 10s just to fill the remaining 30 points to get 200? Of course not, its a waste of time and a DPS loss, so you decide to burst with 170 FS, missing out on some damage. Let's say she start with 200 FS. You begin the normal buffing rotation Mavuika tap E, kachina hold E jump once swap to 3rd char (lets say kazuha) tap E and plunge, swap to 4th char (bennett) tap E and Q. Swap back to Mavuika and burst combo for 9s (2s ulti animation +7s bike mode). Ok your rotation is done. Now you only have some FS (probably like 20-30 points). Use mavuika tap E and swap to Kachina. Oh no, kachina's skill is still on cooldown because it is 20 seconds. Ok maybe her skill wont be on cooldown but it will take another 10-12s just to drain all the points again (unless you decide to whirly twirly jumpy dumpty) and as someone who uses kachina a lot, is extremely clunky to use. Well the only solution to no xilonen is C1 mavuika since it increases her nightsoul point limit to 120 and increases efficiency gain by 25%, so the missing FS problem will be gone.
Your right Mavuika C0 is clunky for sure especially with Kachina and unusable with no Natland team mates. But C1 changes everything and most people can save unless they can't help themselves wishing on useless characters. For 5* I only stopped at C0 for Zhongli the rest are way better at C1-C2 and Furina needs C6 to be amazing and game changing. Even XilonenC0 I got her weapon so I can use her with Anemo and Dendro Citlali is a character I'll end up benching so skip.
@Marc-w1f5x Furina doesn't need C6, max C3 for 124% DMG bonus, unless you are planning to make her main off-field DPS + solo healer so you can swap a healer out for another buffer. I mainly use her as main damage dealer (off-field) her damage is nuts, crab vaporizing over 250k and the seahorse bullets hitting over 50k per hit. I don't have Xilonen and kazuha, damage can probably go up by another 40% if I use them. Furina is still amazing at C0 tho
@@Creeperific I use her in Ousia mode at C6 so she's the team healer. Then the 3 other characters can be whatever you want and still clear Abyss 12 . If you got to C3 trust me C6 is the most worth it constellation in the game. I lost Xilonen weapon 50/50 and put Uraku on Furina. With Golden Troupe she's 97.8/192.7crit, 40215HP, 158 ER (even at C6 I prefer to keep her around 160ER) . Uraku beats both Festering DesireR5 and Wolf Fang R5 in terms of damage.
@@Marc-w1f5x I got C6 Furina too, she can be a solo healer as long as there is at least 1 fav user in the team (123% ER, 85%CR/261%CD) using hydro goblet instead of HP since C2 already provides 140% HP and R1 gives 28% HP. C6 totally removes the healer requirement and during max fanfare she can heal for 2-4k/s for 17s, insane.
@@Creeperific it's just that my GT HP goblet is 14.4/14.8 crit, 5.8ER and you only get something like that once in 4 years. Using fav weapon on other characters makes it more restrictive so I like her to be self sufficient. With 160 it's good. it's like Xangling I have 258 ER so I just put her anywhere without Bennett
As much as I like Mav, Arle is a safer bet because she has well tested/Fleshed out teams that aren't 5* heavy. Mav on the other hand needs to have Xilonen or Citlali and you'll have a rougher time with her if you don't have those two unless u go for C1 Mav, but at that point you might as well go for C2. Sooo for now, go Arle, Mav will likely be back before the 5.X patches end or very early in the 6.X patches.
Are u a meta player? Are u planning on pulling xilonen and or citlali ever? If both answers are yes u should pull if not u can choose tbh. Arle can be played in melt citlali, vape yelan, mono pyro, overload and all of those teams are pretty comparable to eachother. On the other hand mavuika in melt outshines any arle team, vape is prob comparable, and mono pyro and overload arle prob takes it
I got Scroll of Cinder City artifacts that rolled all into crit and it's 82/180 with wolf's gravestone or 91/221 with Serpent Spine (but this second option gives me way less base damage because low atk% and I won't use Bennett ). Probably the highest crit rolls I ever pulled on artifacts. Maybe with C2 the Serpent spine option is better I dunno because you gain 200 base atk. My Codex sets are just slightly better crit value including the passive effect.
@@TheGenshinIdiot oh wait I just rolled a Scroll Crit Rate Circlet with 33.4 CDM (also my first ever CR circlet over 30cdm) so every roll of all artifacts is onto crit now + an Emblem feather with 20.2crit rate/5.4CritDMG (Formerly on Raiden) . The Pyro goblet has 32.6 CritDMG. The sands is 14/14.8 Mavuika will be 82.4/188.6 with a Wolf's Gravestone (atk% weapon) .Unbelievable. It's almost like I should go for C6 now and get her weapon too.
Citlaly is not valuable at all, only 20% res shred for 2 ELEMENTS! A paper shield, she is carried by the scroll set (Xilonen is better) and TTDS, but her kit is just so bad, She is basically only good to allow some melts, she also has the worst vertical investment, her C2 gives EM buff wich is only good for her melt buff, what about the Hydro buff part of her Kit? EM is useless for frozen, she is not well designed and idk why people want to sell her as a must pull when she is only a good support for Mavuika, Arlechino and Gaming, Xilonen is a must pull, Furina is a must pull, not this.
Did you consider the possibility that there are teams where she’ll be with both pyro and hydro? So not only is everyone buffed, but her C2 would benefit any vaporize procs?
So many people will switch up once mavuika gets released. It's gonna be a fun watching them.
I am 100% pulling for mavuika i love her but honestly she's the least future proof archon ive seen so far , because
1) shes a dps , will get powercrept eventually
2) to maximize her potential you need someone from natlan , thats fine but what would happen when natlan version is over and we get better supports and subdps who are not from natlan but you cant really use them with mavuika cause she needs a natlan character for the extra damage boost and fast elemental burst , characters from future regions wont be able to maximize her potential so she'll be kinda locked to version 5 characters that is not very future proof is it? or am i just entirely wrong?
You wish.
She is basically a pyro Raiden + power of friendship and an ult-locked dmg buff that decays.
Wtf
Jokes on you I'm too broke to switch up
I probably won't switch up. I'd be surprised if she's a better pull than anticipated, but Xilonen/Citlali are still more valuable compared to her.
This is why hoyo considers global players doormats.
The last statement about “Everyone needs certain characters to be great.” Is so true. Like why people acting like Neuvi’s best team doesn’t consist of certain characters
@@Evil-hybrid I used to play C0R1 Neuvillette with kuki, kazuha and one more different element character (can't remember who) and he was already hitting for around 30k per tick, which is pretty amazing given that the only buffer was kazuha while the other 2 were just there for reaction to activate his passive. Now I got C1 Neuvillette + Sigewinne + Kazuha + Xilonen R1, he's hitting for about 70-76k per tick, pretty sure if I added C0 Furina he will be hitting for about 90k and probably over 100k with C3 Furina. The thing about Neuvillette is that he plays similarly to Chasca, just throw random element teammates and he is good to go.
@ That’s what I mean though….. Good does not equal great….. sure you can through in any element in Neuvi team but he won’t be great he’d be good…. But throw in certain characters he is gonna be great…. Same with Mavuika throw in any element she is gonna be good…. Throw in certain Characters she’s gonna be awesome…. It’s the same thing…. Every character has restrictions at the end of the day it’s about who is outputting the most damage on your account…. And put every character with their best team Mavuika is gonna be the best dps in the game
Exactly, Neuvillete best teams have 3 premium supports in just his side of the abyss, while the other team in the abyss dies of agony
Neuvi doesn't need them though, I've been using him since Mondstadt and even capped at lvl 40 he still did his job up to Inazuma. Unless you count Hu Tao and Barbara as support.
@Seraph_op OH boy, you definitely did not play abyss. The HP enemies have in abyss are way too big and neuvillete absolute needs 2 or more supports to work, and since he's an hp scaler Bannet doesn't work for him so you need something like Furina, Citali, Kazuha or xilonem. You can run him with F2P options like VV artifact with ameno traveler or the new Lan yan also with VV you still have a huge dps lost. Also bloom teams without Nahida straight up doesn't work
I just realized that Xilonen is the Furina of the region. Furina's f2p weapon is the fishing one and Hoyo gave out 3 copies of Xilonen's craftable weapon. Mavuika is Neuvillette in a different color. So many people complaining about nightsoul this, nightsoul that, but realistically Neuvillette always wants a hydro unit on his team as a starting point to maximize his damage. They both have a strong recommended c1. It's made all the complaining infinitely funnier to me.
Why would you even defend that? If they powercreep Furina you can just replace her and call it a day Neuvi doesn't care, not with Mavuika if any of her teammates become obsolete so does Mavuika because of her reliance on Natlan characters. Sure I like the idea of synergy but being "forced" to get Xilonen is just bad.
Nah Neuvillette doesnt want another hydro unless you have C1 furina is the only hydro character im pretty sure who provides more than the last stack can offer
@@Seraph_op You think it's a defense because you have warm fuzzy feelings about Neuvillette. I never said that. It's a criticism of both units. Red corrected me on my understanding of Neuvillette. My info was wrong because everyone I knew played them together. I should have pointed out the "shield at c0" thing.
Tips for mavuika or arle summons
Are u a meta player? Are u planning on pulling xilonen and or citlali ever? If both answers are yes u should pull if not u can choose tbh.
Arle can be played in melt citlali, vape yelan, mono pyro, overload and all of those teams are pretty comparable to eachother.
On the other hand mavuika in melt outshines any arle team, vape is prob comparable, and mono pyro and overload arle prob takes it
thanks! do u think i could use
mavuika citali furina bennet
or mavuika citali furina kachina
can you recommend a team comp for them please!
@@feinbria tbh i got my info from theorycrafters so until she is in the game u cant be 100% sure from what i’ve seen tho.
Mavuika bennet is pretty much a must kinda like arle bennet so now for teams.
Best will be
1)mavuika, bennet, xilonen, citlali
2)mavuika, bennet, citalli, sucrose
3) mav, ben, citlali, rosaria
4) mav, ben, furina, xilonen
5,6) mav, ben, ororon, chevreuse maybe / mono pyro
These are just the highest dps teams for her but imo xilonen is still a better pull than citlali but for mavuika specifically citlali is on paper the best unit cuz she applies cryo (i still recommend waiting a bit after her banner this dude and other ytbers will pull her and test her out and if u like what u see then pull)
@@feinbriaild suggest sucrose or Kazuha instead of furina instead because in a Citlali Furina team what will happen against enemies that can't be frozen like a boss is that both cryo and hydro will end up cancelling each other instead leaving u to neither hydro nor cryo to vape or melt
The only limited 5 star i have is Yelan , and from standard banner diluc and mona and for support i have bennet(C5, have c6 but havent activated it yet) , do you think Mavuika well pair well with yelan? and yes i do plan on pulling for xilonen but i will have no more primos after getting mavuika and my luck is really bad so idk if i'll get her on her rerun
@ yelan bennet arle are a great combo already but its a bit hard to play. Mavuika with yelan is possible but u have to use charge attacks. Hmmm tbh i’m not 100 % sure whats for the best for a new account but what i can say is that mavuika is also a support so i lean towards her. And even if u dont pull mavuika pulling for xilonen is always a good choice for pretty much every dps… except anemo and dendro
My guy…. Burst crit chances have always been different per enemy😭😭 hu taos burst sometimes crits on one but the one next to it doesn’t. (Or maybe thats just hu tao and i’m being the stupid one here but as far as i know crits chances are always different per enemy)
Yeah this is very silly, crit applies per hit... so hitting two enemies is two different hits, same as if you did 2 normal attacks and one crits and the other doesn't
@ yep 😭
Imagine if your Yelan Burst just decided to not crit even once for it's whole duration when you activated it... everyone would be runnibg 100% critrate builds or doing some stupud speedrun Andy resets.
yes crits chances are different thus get as close to 100% cr as possible.
I've never noticed it, probably because I dont use burst reliant characters often. Last one ive used was Raiden and I dont even use her much.
Honestly, when I first saw Genshin Himeko, I thought shed be a brawler like Dehya or Rizzly. That being said, she looks fun and shes Himeko, so I have to pull. I hope when the update comes, we get some narrative info on the bike. Not that it takes much to believe a motorcycle could be made in Teyvat.
Ye xianyun literally made one but now that it's part of gameplay now it's a problem🤷🏾♂️
@ Well Im not even talking about that, how many times have we found a advanced “relic” from the past? You’re telling me in the history of Teyvat, there were to motorized vehicles? You have witches that traverse worlds bring technology from other places as well, is that too much? Why is it only for Mauvika?
Would I prefer her bike only be for traversing and that she fights like a mix of Itto and Dehya? Sure, but I’m not put off by it. I like Neuv as a character but his gameplay is bland but he gets no hate cause big damage.
Im pretty sure Xilonen made it, I know Xilonen made chascas gun but idk. Would make sense since it kind of explains why xilonen is such a broken support.
@TheGenshinIdiot I just don't understand the hate. Does it come out of nowhere? Yes, completely agree, but all the nonsense relics and tech we've seen and a motorcycle crosses the line? Then there's the criticism of her gameplay. Like I said, Neuv is a great unit but his gameplay is so stiff, but he gets a pass? Make it make sense.
Also the bike is a living creature it's a dragon that can move on its own.
I love the fact that everyone is fighting and arguing over Mavuika vs Arlecchino! Meanwhile there’s me in the corner loving both and will be playing both
You do you
All this crap about Arlechinno is just getting annoying, just go for who you want honestly this wouldn't be a problem if she wasn't phase 2.
And if you're of those Arle simps saying Mavuika will never sell well just know she's on of the most anticipated Archons to date so you'll definitely be wrong. Plus the same was said about Furina before release and looked what happened. I'm sorry for being heated but I hate when people take "this favorite character" nonsense too far, even to the point of straight up telling people not to pull for a character unless it's their favorite (their as in the people saying don't pull). Go for who you want and that's all it's baffles me how to this day most still don't understand that. The game has no meta, or no need for it, the game has no competition, the game is mainly solo focused so stop trying to play the game for others when it's supposed to be their own experience not yours. Apologies. All that nonsense is also why I absolutely despise havong character kits leaked before release, animations were okay but having the kits is a bit too far especially if it brings up stuff like this.
Did I even mention Arlecchino is this video?
@@TheGenshinIdiot I think they were talking about people in the comments and those on twitter (especially twitter, they take the mavuika hate to the max)
@@TheGenshinIdiot I think like 2 times during the team comp to say an example of how main dps need characters
This 5.3 patch is so expensive!!! I need to pull for both banners and both sig weapons… 😭😭😭
Both characters Brenners + c2 mavuika will be fire
You dont need citlali weap, thrilling tales will work just fine!
@@uboiyy1031 true
Good luck
Damage regardless of whether single target of hordes per hit always counts as individual damage. AoE damage have individual damage count per target, meaning not every single hit will be crit as long as you have
How does he not know this…
i mean did you expect him to know all the nitty gritty stuff and mechanics of genshin? he's just a genshin content creator and influencer whose content is directly impacting his viewer's perception of the game amiright?
Honestly I never noticed this with raidens burst
I’m ready for Citlali.
Good luck
How do you think Mav’s burst will interact with Raiden’s ultimate ring regarding the ultimate cost since fighting spirit is different from regular energy? I’d love to use both in the same team.
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hi, just wondering, among the f2p weapons, which is better so I can start farming for it, is it the fontaine craftable or the natlan one?. If one of them is yes, do I go for atck or em sands?
Do you have Mailed Flower?
@@TheGenshinIdiot sadly, I don't have any event claymore, only the craftable ones
Question: C2 or C0R1 mavuika if I have furina c2 and xilonen... And only decent claymore is a wgs and all event claymore we had
@@Bored_And_Geeky this is a tough question. You will need to wait for guide makers to do the testing and damage calculations to know which is better. Weapon and her constellations are very good damage increase, especially C2 since it increases her BASE attack by 200, meaning atk% substats also increase based on this extra 200 BASE attack, and also her tap E fire ring reduce nearby enemy defense by 20%, or bike mode gets increased DMG multiplier
i forgot where i saw the comparison but someone showed C2 gives a better dps increase than C0R1.. but C0R1 is better than C1.
Make sure youre getting Citlali if you want to go for cons, its probably C2 knowing how busted C2 Archons are
@@TheGenshinIdiot i apologize but i dont think i have enough to get both citali and c2 mavuika
the kits have been officially revealed since the start of the 5.3 beta in 5.2 actually
Are u dumb
those are leaks thus not official
Those are leaks not official
not official since they were leaks
Those weren't official, they were leaks
will mav be good in imag theatre? that's the main thing i struggle with
I can give a good, probably not honestly. If you dont have Natlan characters you basically have to use her as an off field support. We will see how good that is.
If i have Arataki ittos 5* weapon should i skip mavuikas 5* weapon and go for mavuika and citlali?
Honestly at most my budget this month would be $180.
Also as of right now I am at 80 pity currently.
Yes, getting Citlali is more of a priority than getting Mavuika's weapon especially if you don't have xilonen. It would go like this: Mavuika > Citlali > Mavuika's wep in terms of priority. Arguably even some Mavuika constellations are better than the wep especially if u got itto's wep @@Raiden-the-Goat32
Get Citlali before Mavuika weapon it will be better anyways
i am ready to bench xiangling. mavuika nation rise up! 🙌🏾
very happy i have pulled every natlan character so far, gonna have so much fun this patch
Woooooo
Hoyo keeping pyro traveler so secwet
Either that or they have nothing to their kit
Sorry but I wanna know this since I had argument with my friends about pulling her, so basically if i pull both mavuika and her wp and then I go for granny cyro... Should I also need to pull granny wp? If yes then maybe granny cyro need to be skip
Granny got TTDS, Sacrificial fragments and other catalyst options. No need for signature (tho its still a big upgrade, but Citlali is good on baseline).
From what I've seen she is fine with Thrilling Tales but you know there is a chance you might get her weapon instead of Mavuika's lol
Go for Citlali first its better since you can do melts, she doesnt need her weapon (probably)
@@Seraph_op I had 390 wish fate so I can hardly say even I get granny weapon I can still go for another round for mavuika wp, and also thanks for the advice guy's
@@nikki_sugardust6512 you had? 390 is enough for 5 fivestars or more.. anyway I wish you good luck
I need a support for neuvillete who should i pull 🙂
Both are good options C1 Neuvillette makes Mavuika the better choice if you have that
i agree with u ... every character needs support and mav needs xilonen who is not at all a bad character .... she is best dps and she is coming to increase pyro ceiling
Yeah its not a super bad restriction but it certainly hurts the people who skipped
16:59 Weird and uncalled for tangent. I still see people soloing abyss with him.
I dont think this was uncalled for because its apart of the conversation people comparing Neuvillette and Mavuika. Sure if you care about soloing I dont think mavuika isnt going to be good at all for that but I also think 99.9% of people dont try and Solo abyss.
@TheGenshinIdiot Alright, if it's in direct response to people comparing Mavuika to Neuvilette, then that's one thing. But let's not pretend that he wasn't the single strongest character this game had seen for over an entire year up until this point. He was OP even before Furina and Xilonen released. It seems a touch disingenuous to say he's reliant on the strongest supports in the game, when
1: he’s honestly not and,
2: literally every character in the game is better with strong supports like these guys.
Now a disclaimer, I am neither a Neuvilette haver, or wanter. In fact, I am going all in on Mavuika, and am never looking back. I don't disagree Mavuika will be stronger than our resident Dragon Judge in a few days. But I know Neuvilette will still singlehandedly carry accounts.
@ I didn’t say he’s reliant I said that without them he’s not great he’s just good
Uh huh.
not only the nuke her charge atk deals majority of her dmg 300k per hit if melt
i mean arlecchino can also hit around the same amount of damage. the only reason why mavuika might be better is her burst dmg
@YOSHAAbeb melt arle... vaape cannot hit 300k and melt comps are useless with arle... she deals 100k in normal scenarios
@@Xotwod-t8k I do 100k vape with white tassle and my Bennet is not LVL 90 neither his weapon. arlecchino vape can reach around 200k or even more depending on the bond of Life
Realistically you're not gonna get that much bond of life unless you save them up in overworld@YOSHAAbeb
Yeah its very strong
I don't know what to do! I have 402 pulls saved after getting Neuvillette and his C 1, and Xilonen, I want Citlali and Furina.
Pull who you like but I would save some for Skirk because I feel like she will be crazy.
You can get Citlali and have enough for Furina
@@TheGenshinIdiot Forgot to mention i wanted Mav too :(
@@bahjin2683 I expect Furina next patch after Mavuika, assuming it takes you 180 pulls each for Mav & Citlali that leaves you with 40 and you still can get like 80+ from the new update I think, so even with really bad luck you should have enough.
The year is 2027, all the Natlan supports can't keep up with the newest Spiral Abyss. Arlecchino is the strongest Pyro DPS in the game, because she can use the newer supports, while Mavuika is still stuck with Xilonen or Citlali, both of whom have been powercrept to oblivion.
Furina is still the strongest character in the game, by the way.
YOU THINK THEY ARENT RELEASING ANOTHER PYRO DPS BY 2027???
@@TheGenshinIdiot Given their track record, they'll probably have released 3-5 limited 5* Pyro characters, and about 3-5 of them will be DPSes.
Yo should i pull for weapon or c1 i have xilonen or for citlali without c1 or wepon
C1 seems like the better overall pick because it reduces the burden to use her with other character’s in IT. But I wanna try and go for both if i’m lucky.
Citlali
Weapon xilonen gives her enough fighting spirit citlali for big numbers for melt
Personally, I won't be using Mavuika strictly as a DPS so I'm going to prioritize her weapon and cons since they allow her to be more versatile and her C1 while not busted is a QoL and one step closer to the goated C2, but if you are looking to use her as one of you go to teams for abyss, TGS (the genshin scientist) says that the order should be Xilonen -> Citlali -> Then Mavuika Sig and Cons. so on and so forth.
Hmm its just my opinion but i would ignore everyone else who replied to u. First of all c1 gives u a slight damage upgrade but thats not the reason u pull. It makes it possible to not use natlan characters but that doesn’t change the fact that her optimal teams still have them.
Her c1 also makes it her e tap duration last longer making it harder to use with wrio.
Mavuikas weapon is overal the better pull damage wise by far but if u really want to know i recommend watching a video from theorycrafters (tgs just made one. Watch that instead of asking here)
at least mavuika isn't starved for crit rate like raiden, getting 100% crit rate on mavuika will be pretty easy. think my set is at 99% with beacon, thats why I might just skip her weapon for now.
Yeah I was looking at my build, im actually going to have like 84%
ill start farming for her materials if I win 50/50 😅
Bruh
Bro Neuvi IS THAT GUY hehege
We will see if Mavuika is THAT GOD
@TheGenshinIdiot hehehehe, If Pyro Traveler's ticks were also every 2s it would've been nice, I hope it'll be in his constellations hehehehe, for F2P Chevreuse teams with cinder city buff (Clorinde)
5:17 people just love doomposting before a character drops which is honestly so dumb
Yeah I feel like Mavuikas nuke puts her in contention for the best dps
Not really you can always change opinions but I doubt Hoyo will change numbers after her banner like they did with Zhongli. In my opinion they should lower her nightsoul requirement so that any single Natlan teammate is enough.
Crits are always per hit/enemy dependent. So no one attack will always crit on all enemies if not at 100%, RNG is the biggest bi********* after all lol.
Yeah ive never noticed this
I’ve never understood the hate on Mavuika. She’s restrictive, yes, a character that busted needs to be or say goodbye to game balance and the slow power creep everyone loves about genshin. Furina is also restrictive, I see ppl say you can use any healer though, and it’s just that. Unless, you’re plunging, furina forces you to run a character you get nothin but healing from. Mavuika wants you to run a natlan character which is most likely offering a lot more to the team, citlali, xilonen. Furina makes healers relevant. Mavuika does not make natlan characters relevant, they are already useful on their own. I love Furina, but I personally prefer Mavuika’s restriction even at this point with limited natlan characters
I never understood this why does Furina need a healer? She can heal herself and I'm not talking about her C6. But imagine Furina forced you to use Xianyun because other healers couldn't generate her points or just like a 10%, that would be the same situation.
@ furina healing herself is furina with no dmg. She doesn’t force you to use xilonen, just her best option. Just as furina has a best option for healer
Honestly half the time I dont run Furina with a healer shes just that good
I'm glad Mavuika is powercreeping Ququsaurs, they are really annoying to use
....Chasca already did that
@TheGenshinIdiot oh yeah, I forgot
Get "These" Very informative, thanks.
Thank you for watching
may be arlecchino is still better if we compare c0
Eh idk
Lol people are not downplaying Mavuika's damage, the problem is the fighting spirit generation. C0 kachina only gives 60 points, draining 10 every 2 s, total duration to drain is 12s (unless you waste time riding whirly twirly and jumping) mavuika herself has 80 points, total 60+80=140. Normal attacks generate FS too damn slow, lets say you hit 2 times/s for 10s, total only generating 30 FS. So now you have 170 points. Are you going to use NA for another 10s just to fill the remaining 30 points to get 200? Of course not, its a waste of time and a DPS loss, so you decide to burst with 170 FS, missing out on some damage.
Let's say she start with 200 FS. You begin the normal buffing rotation Mavuika tap E, kachina hold E jump once swap to 3rd char (lets say kazuha) tap E and plunge, swap to 4th char (bennett) tap E and Q. Swap back to Mavuika and burst combo for 9s (2s ulti animation +7s bike mode). Ok your rotation is done. Now you only have some FS (probably like 20-30 points). Use mavuika tap E and swap to Kachina. Oh no, kachina's skill is still on cooldown because it is 20 seconds. Ok maybe her skill wont be on cooldown but it will take another 10-12s just to drain all the points again (unless you decide to whirly twirly jumpy dumpty) and as someone who uses kachina a lot, is extremely clunky to use.
Well the only solution to no xilonen is C1 mavuika since it increases her nightsoul point limit to 120 and increases efficiency gain by 25%, so the missing FS problem will be gone.
Your right Mavuika C0 is clunky for sure especially with Kachina and unusable with no Natland team mates.
But C1 changes everything and most people can save unless they can't help themselves wishing on useless characters. For 5* I only stopped at C0 for Zhongli the rest are way better at C1-C2 and Furina needs C6 to be amazing and game changing. Even XilonenC0 I got her weapon so I can use her with Anemo and Dendro
Citlali is a character I'll end up benching so skip.
@Marc-w1f5x Furina doesn't need C6, max C3 for 124% DMG bonus, unless you are planning to make her main off-field DPS + solo healer so you can swap a healer out for another buffer. I mainly use her as main damage dealer (off-field) her damage is nuts, crab vaporizing over 250k and the seahorse bullets hitting over 50k per hit. I don't have Xilonen and kazuha, damage can probably go up by another 40% if I use them. Furina is still amazing at C0 tho
@@Creeperific I use her in Ousia mode at C6 so she's the team healer. Then the 3 other characters can be whatever you want and still clear Abyss 12 . If you got to C3 trust me C6 is the most worth it constellation in the game.
I lost Xilonen weapon 50/50 and put Uraku on Furina. With Golden Troupe she's 97.8/192.7crit, 40215HP, 158 ER (even at C6 I prefer to keep her around 160ER) . Uraku beats both Festering DesireR5 and Wolf Fang R5 in terms of damage.
@@Marc-w1f5x I got C6 Furina too, she can be a solo healer as long as there is at least 1 fav user in the team (123% ER, 85%CR/261%CD) using hydro goblet instead of HP since C2 already provides 140% HP and R1 gives 28% HP. C6 totally removes the healer requirement and during max fanfare she can heal for 2-4k/s for 17s, insane.
@@Creeperific it's just that my GT HP goblet is 14.4/14.8 crit, 5.8ER and you only get something like that once in 4 years.
Using fav weapon on other characters makes it more restrictive so I like her to be self sufficient. With 160 it's good. it's like Xangling I have 258 ER so I just put her anywhere without Bennett
I feel bad for people who wont pull her because they still have to use xiangling 🤣 thank god i can finally bench that character.
I used to pray for times like these
I'm torn between mav or arle
Arle
As much as I like Mav, Arle is a safer bet because she has well tested/Fleshed out teams that aren't 5* heavy. Mav on the other hand needs to have Xilonen or Citlali and you'll have a rougher time with her if you don't have those two unless u go for C1 Mav, but at that point you might as well go for C2. Sooo for now, go Arle, Mav will likely be back before the 5.X patches end or very early in the 6.X patches.
if you hve more natlan characters then get mavuika
You have almost a month to decide who to pull, wait for her to release then decide.
Are u a meta player? Are u planning on pulling xilonen and or citlali ever? If both answers are yes u should pull if not u can choose tbh.
Arle can be played in melt citlali, vape yelan, mono pyro, overload and all of those teams are pretty comparable to eachother.
On the other hand mavuika in melt outshines any arle team, vape is prob comparable, and mono pyro and overload arle prob takes it
i farmed her set and i got 110 /222 crit ratio
I got Scroll of Cinder City artifacts that rolled all into crit and it's 82/180 with wolf's gravestone or 91/221 with Serpent Spine (but this second option gives me way less base damage because low atk% and I won't use Bennett ). Probably the highest crit rolls I ever pulled on artifacts. Maybe with C2 the Serpent spine option is better I dunno because you gain 200 base atk.
My Codex sets are just slightly better crit value including the passive effect.
Thats crazy
@@TheGenshinIdiot oh wait I just rolled a Scroll Crit Rate Circlet with 33.4 CDM (also my first ever CR circlet over 30cdm) so every roll of all artifacts is onto crit now + an Emblem feather with 20.2crit rate/5.4CritDMG (Formerly on Raiden) . The Pyro goblet has 32.6 CritDMG. The sands is 14/14.8
Mavuika will be 82.4/188.6 with a Wolf's Gravestone (atk% weapon) .Unbelievable. It's almost like I should go for C6 now and get her weapon too.
@@TheGenshinIdiot Just rolled a Scroll Crit Rate Circlet with 33.4 Crit DMG
@@Marc-w1f5x Nice
Just pull for your favorite character boo. Good luck and shut up 😊
I mean I dont really get why you gotta tell me to shut up but ok
Citlaly is not valuable at all, only 20% res shred for 2 ELEMENTS! A paper shield, she is carried by the scroll set (Xilonen is better) and TTDS, but her kit is just so bad, She is basically only good to allow some melts, she also has the worst vertical investment, her C2 gives EM buff wich is only good for her melt buff, what about the Hydro buff part of her Kit? EM is useless for frozen, she is not well designed and idk why people want to sell her as a must pull when she is only a good support for Mavuika, Arlechino and Gaming, Xilonen is a must pull, Furina is a must pull, not this.
Also good for Chasca, since I don't have those characters I'll stick with furina with Mauv
Did you consider the possibility that there are teams where she’ll be with both pyro and hydro? So not only is everyone buffed, but her C2 would benefit any vaporize procs?
I have 18 characters limited characters not a single one cryo i think i know who's coming in my party ❄️🥹
Good luck