It’s always interesting to see what people think the future will look like then see what it turns out to be. People in the 40’s thought that there would be flying cars in the 80’s. And now people think that they can build sustainable cities in a matter of ten years.
LOL! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣Not even ten years. The project was announced in 2001. It's now 2023 and 22 years later they have not even decided where to put it yet! Not even which state! So that means the deadline for the completion of Phase 1 is just under 8 years away. It's good to have dreamers, and the people behind this project are certainly dreaming.
@@pilotusa lmao our government worries about the wrong things. You already know barely anything they plan is done. And if it is done it takes forever. Unless it’s somthing dumb example pistol braces. That happens fast
I think this will be totally disastrous if they ever decide to build on desert because Phoenix and Las Vegas already faced problem water supplies. they should transform Detroit, Pittsburgh or Cleveland into Telosa City that's probably better than desert. Appalachian might be better choice than desert too.
Or built it at a state that most people don’t want to go and has a lot of land but has a huge population like Tennessee. I think Tennessee or North Carolina are the best states for telosa
Yeah that would be really cool as someone who lives in Pittsburgh and has visited Detroit, I can tell you that there are a lot of poor areas and crumbling buildings here.
' raison d'être ' End Purpose" or "Goal" "End Game" hahaha - They will get backers for cash, then the project will get put on hold, never to finish - same old game of collecting cash and running - Just look at the "global" initiative to develop Dubai, all the sand and slave labor to build cities that sit empty - cities built on sand and now sucking cash for the "line" or "the lie" city - complete nonsense
Your either ignorant of what this word means or you're purposely being intellectually dishonest telos (n.) "ultimate object or aim," 1904, from Greek telos "the end, limit, goal, fulfillment, completion,"
@@liivebyyou9518 While I don't disagree I think its safe to say that getting to plan from the ground up with little hassle is far preferable to waiting years for a city's ecological impact reports to be completed or facing resistance from residents, etc. In Los Angeles their 710 freeway was originally going to run up from Long Beach to Pasadena. Resistance to the freeway had it stopped far short near Cal State Univ Los Angeles. Portions of excavations intended for the remainder of the freeway still exist but were never completed and just sit there from decades of non use.
@rdspam It's a joke, his point is that like other big desert megacities (California City for instance) this would be abandoned and a joke in 20 years when the project inevitably falls flat. There's a reason people rarely build big cities in the desert historically, it's a nightmare to build infrastructure there.
I believe the housing market has been highly overpriced. There are different factors. Some of it is more buyers than sellers. People get in bidding wars over a home. Most homes sell within 2 weeks. Then if you want land in the country between the rich folk and China who are paying way to much for property they make it impossible for average people to purchase in the country. It's going to implode because all the people who paid a premium for house's are a paycheck away from losing those homes. Look at the trucking company that just went out of business. How many of those employees will lose their homes. Look at other big companies that announced layoffs. Housing will be taking a big hit and prices will drop
I bought a house with cash in 2021. The insurance and property taxes have doubled since then, and now costs more than I ever paid in rent in my life. I feel that I would be better off living in a studio apartment in a warehouse again and investing the money in anything else.
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This project is about social engineering and control. One of the great balance points in liberal democratic societies is land ownership. You are invested in the society because you own physical land within it, a piece of it. That gives you a substantial amount of control over what is done within it's boundaries, and restricts government from interference or seizure. It's such an important concept in the American System that emmient domain is restricted as to use for a specific public good. That's why the New London decision by the Supreme Court raised all kinds of hell, since private land was being seized to give to a private development. It's also why Bills of Attainder are unconstitutional. You can't seize a person's or corporation's property unless it was attained through criminal means, such as drug dealers buying property with it. When government controls the land, they control the use, and residency. Simply put, they don't like you, they can seize the land and evict you no matter how much you invested into the property's development. They don't like your politics, they can seize it and lease it to someone they do like. While we restrict development through zoning, this is primarily as a protection for land owners, particularly in residential areas so a waste treatment factory isn't dropped like a bomb in the middle of a residential neighborhood, or a factory, destablizing the area and tanking land values, that can then be bought up for a song. If the government tells you that you can only build apartment blocks on the land, then you plans for a house are gone. You don't own the land... and you can be removed from it as a squatter. Throw on top of that the issue of water, which building in the desert should be a big red flag on, and this place is all kinds of trouble waiting to happen. You are building in the desert. There is is no water. And the Western United States is infamous for it's continuing water wars. Where are you going to get the water? Then there's wildlife in the region, and the ecological damage to the desert. You'd have to build major road networks, power generation, waste disposal, and so much else, just to turn what is financially worthless land into a cash cow for a billionaire and his investors to build a city where they control absolutely every aspect of life because they own the land, the utilities, and all the rest.
With growing populations it's surely not feasible for every person on the planet to own their own land? It's that sort of thought which often leads to urban sprawl. I get the worries of some around over regulation and surrendering property to a central body, but the harsh reality is: you're no safer at current from your fears than you would be in this alternative scenario. You can still be forced off your land etc, albeit through less direct methods.
3:00 If Telosa is set to be the sole owner of all the land, that means the city's inhabitants are set to be "renters"? "YOU'LL OWN NOTHING AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY" - WEF AGENDA 2030
3:07 Telosa is set to be the sole owner of all the land 3:15 Land value will grow and that will be put back in the society? Who is going to buy the land if Telosa is going to own all the land?
@@jeffreybower5959 Mars has a good bit of ice. But the atmosphere (or lack thereof) is an insuperable problem. People would have to live deep underground due to cosmic radiation...
yes! i agree. I'm in Kansas City and most of downtown is vacant and nodoby goes there. revamp KC.... it even has a brand new airport we didn't need. lol
I don't know what the developer guys are smokin' but I'd like some.The challenge of solar is not collecting energy when the sun shines, It's storing it for use when the sun is not shining. Combined w water scarcity issues, these guys got a gigantic challenge on their hands.
Just one question - water? Large western desert cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas are already struggling with the problem of how to supply their rapidly growing populations with water. Is Telosa going to magically make water appear to support it's people? If not, where is it going to come from?
@@jasonjanes3256 hmmm, I guess you've not seen condensation let alone heard of it. That's silly🤣 You should try something like, "If there's a will, There's a way" Let me guess, You never heard of that one either.🤣 Yep silly
Well, Telosa will be important by itself. But still, it will be Near Las Vegas, not so far away from LA or SF. Even if it’s constructed in Texas, it could be near to the important city’s there. M
@@iamantoniohz This is a fake vanity project from a delusional billionare that will never happen. history has countless attemps of wierd vanety project that end up failing.
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5:15 Having wind turbines inside the city is a really bad idea. They're noisy as heck and they have an inconvenient habit of killing birds, which are gonna fall onto the streets and houses below.
It’s more likely that the Las Vegas metropolitan region will add 5 million more residents in the next 40 years before a brand new city pops up. The biggest hurdle is the first phase. Getting setup JUST to setup a city in an inhospitable region can definitely break this project. Dubai has one of the deepest wallets in the world and they can’t even get half their projects done (which are all past their deadline). And places within the USA take twice as much money to build half at much proposed and at 3x the projected length of time (looking at you NY and LA). The other issue is that major city-regions will likely add 5 million people each over the next 40 years. In 2060, Telosa will seem like a town.
It's naive to think everyone wants to live in a small apartment stacked on top of each other. People with means will always want more space and have something different.
@@b3arwithm3 That your complaint is irrelevant. Cities are developed for a large population to live in a dense area, the people that don’t want that can live in rural or suburban areas. There was zero need for you to say anything at all.
I believe it when I see it. Most planned citied have proven too expensive for the average earner, since the high construction costs usually translate to high rents. It also really depends on what the developers consider „affordable“. Curious to see how this will turn out.
Not likely for everyday people. Studio apartments are going for $2000 a month. How is anyone supposed to be able to afford to live in a place like this? You would probably have to pay a few million for a basic unit suitable for one person.
I agree especially with the Midwest. I was just thinking that before I came across ur comment. Even tho we get winters in the Midwest imagine a city built like that near one of the Great Lakes especially Lake Michigan.
Finding somewhere near a source of water with plentiful rainfall would be ideal. But land is the most expensive part of any construction job, and no place beats the desert in cheap land.
@@Justinxoxo naw it’s Tennessee or Kentucky is the most ideal. Not too cold like Chicago, nor not too hot like Las Vegas, perfect example is cities like Memphis and Nashville, look at their weather throughout the year.
Why can't he? It's a free world. Because you are probably lazy, why should this guy be denied access to build wealth. Without people like this, our country would be nothing. If Bezos didn't create Amazon, look where we would be.
I`m not sure, but isn`t this "self financing mechanism" same / similar as one as is now in China and it is one of the reason for the whole developer disaster? I know, in China it is mixed with bank loans, CCP and so on, but ...
The problem is fresh water. You need the natural grasslands, trees, and bushes of the area to replinish natural aquifers. There's a park in Texas that had been farm land and/or ranch land that the owner decided to change back into the natural land that was initially there before people ruined it. He planted the type of plants that had been removed by people and found out a few decades later that there was actually some natural aquifers that had dried up because the farming had been plants with roots that didn't hydrate the aquifer like the natural grasses, trees, and bushes of the land did. He was pleasantly surprised that with the results. Building these cities, humans need to take this into consideration. Water is our most precious resource. Fresh water.
The idea is to build it far from water, or anything else humans need, so inhabitants are forced to comply with whatever the demands would be. Its begins in luxury, but later becomes a slum, then a prison.
There was a man, many years ago, who claims to have located a massive underground river in Nevada, while he was searching for gold. However he refused to reveal the location before he died.
@@fileminokilicho3159 I am not certain they should. People building and running these new cities want to impose some drastic new rules on people living in these cities that are very un-American.
@DownRange71 they don’t spend alot of money just to kill other humans, its also to show dominance and power. This world is like a jungle, the stronger you are the more dominance you have
You know what would ACTUALLY be cool? Is if these bizzarionnaires would just invest heavily in an area like Detroit, save the most prominent historical buildings and integrate them into a sustainable and ETHICAL community based city. The biggest issue (other than the obvious COMPLETE illogical ideology) with ALL of these utopia cities, is that everyone is still basing the entire strategy on a financial metric.
What do you mean save only historical buildings? as a resident of michigan a modern building like the ren cen is more important culturally and objectively than things like the old concert halls and mansions, By denying the preservation of all our modern buildings you deny the preservation of the entire range of archtecture from the 50s to now, Almost all of it. destroying all buildings considered modern is just as big of a mistake in cultural preservation as the 60s were in urban renewal, even worse because theres still historical buildings left, Millenials need to consider more about a city than just the buildings that look old, especially by people that don't live there, also destruction of the suburbs would trigger incredible backlash, even if its not planned well at all its still part of communities and area history, 70s were 50 years ago, thats history.
Great video! One major constraint on an infrastructure project this large will be access to raw materials, e.g. steel and aluminium (or "aluminum"!) for construction and engineering, or copper for electricity generation and connectivity. And that’s not to mention the amount of materials already in short supply that you would need to build solar and wind power facilities, such as rare earths and nickel. Even if the US brings some refining/smelting capacity back onshore (most of these value chains are currently dominated by China), a project the size of Telosa could push up prices of the raw inputs, e.g. iron ore for steelmaking - which obviously raises new concerns about funding.
I’m think we should move towns and cities and combine them into bigger cities and towns, while massively creating new infrastructure, public work jobs, roads, highways, also restructuring cities and towns adding more biking trails, walkways, bus lines, and more and creating less highways in cities, also creating new architecture jobs, plumbing jobs, construction jobs, manufacturing jobs, and much more. And we should start heading for Fusion Power Technology, Wind Turbine, and Solar Energy Technology as the new energy efficiency instead of nuclear and current energy sources
I mean, only 22 years since a billionaire decided to build a desert city that no one has heard of. Totally realistic. Lol. Maybe work on the cities we have and improving what we already have issues with.
because these cities we live in are built for profits not evolutionary change, so sometimes it's better to design fresh from the ground up - Like Factory Five's new kit the F9
@@jasonjanes3256 what part of this city provides evolutionary change? This concept of property value growing exists in every city around the world. The only other change that seems suggested is the virtue signaling of autonomous EVs, which are less sustainable for the planet than trucks.
Yes, because despite the fact that throughout human history we built cities near bodies of water, let’s instead fit up to five million people in a drought stricken area miles from any body of water. There are pre-existing cities to invest in…..
Diverting water to desert cities will just cause ecological problems in other areas as we keep seeing already. It's a nice utopian dream, but very flawed in its hopefulness.
So, an investor buys a bit of land and builds on it (According to what specifications?) then sells it to....what, me? And then that investors profits will go to building more of the city because...what? What if the investor takes their money and leaves? And where does the average citizen come in?
If the investor takes their money they probably will be sued because they would have had to sign a contract. Right? And average citizens move in when homes are built..
@@righteousmammon9011 I just don't get how they think the value will go up if it's something noone can buy. And where does the money come from if it can't get bought? I feel like these people think you can plug a power strip into itself.
How does this billionaire not understand the difference between equity and equality? He is also removing the mental health factor from the homeless population problems.
It sounds like an anime plot! Why does this give me so much joy!? What if something went wrong and at first they announced it was fine but soon it got worse causing everyone to have to fend for their lives!? 🤩
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This is an unfortunate presentation. What sets this city apart? "Solar on the roofs and a couple tower farms." There isn't a major difference from existing cities to this except that they have a large-scale plan before construction begins. You want to build in a desert? Hmm. No ocean nearby for a desalination plant so how are you getting your water source? Say hello to another San Joaquin Valley situation. You need to create a fundamental change in how a city operates or find effective sustainability. EVs are NOT sustainable and leave a greater carbon footprint than a Chevy Suburban. And how are you going to develop a couple of square miles of city and all the required infrastructure by 2030 when you don't even have a plot, let alone detailed plans of each building to be built? For something of this magnitude to be built that quickly you need material contracts already hashed out, trade partners under contract, and maybe some money to pay for it all. Can billionaires please stop suggesting half-baked ideas just because they are trying to leave a legacy?
I think it's an exciting idea. But, first, they need to look are areas that are similar to the San Diego or even LA temperatures where it doesn't get to cold or to hot. This will save a ton on utility experiences, plus give the residents actual time throughout the year to actually enjoy the outdoors. Second, they'll have to regulate and screen incoming residents and weed out people with a criminal history and people who are homeless because of just laziness and unwillingness to participate. Finally, they need to have some kind of tests to evaluate and eliminate any anarchist types whom are never happy and want to create chaos wherever they go. If they do these things then they may get near to a sudo utopia.
Are you kidding me? Do you think they care about the comfort of the slaves that will live here or the criminals that will take over? They are touting "equity", which means EVERYONE, thug or not. If they don't allow criminals, they will be "racist" or some kind of "ist"! You will be forced to live with murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. The bad apples will poison the rest. Good luck living in that society where you won't be able to leave, either!
This maybe a concept at first, but it got me captivated because I believe it had very well verbalized the perfect "thought-foundation" or foundation of what should be the perfect approach in cities and the grander scale of it.
I love the vision, though have a few concerns; the biggest being so called "Equitism". Let me phrase it this way; a system where people's reward for improving their own property gets dispersed equally among the populous, sound familiar? That's because it's Socialism, which, (let's be honest here) is Communism. I would point out why that's a bad thing, but I think we all took History class. My second concern is kind of a weird one, upkeep. The basic bland, rigid, straight grid system works well because it's efficient- not only for travel, but for upkeep. Now let's look at Telosa's streets; they are curved, they have solid rounded cement planters constantly breaking them up, and they have grass on either side. Those are not streets, those are gardens, and gardens require a crap ton of water, (which the desert has none of), fertile soil, (which the desert has none of), and gardeners to cut the grass, trim the trees, and so forth. That's not even accounting for all the plants hanging off the sides of buildings, in the end like 35% of the workforce would have to be dedicated entirely to gardeners, which makes for a very weak economy. This whole concept is just a pretty picture of a science fiction utopia, and as much as I love science fiction, it won't work. Maybe in a tropical or grassland area, but not in the desert. -If they really wanted to build in the desert, I would recommend using Earth ship style housing, that way it would use the desert to their advantage and save on electricity. Either that or use a similar style to Habitat 67, easy to reproduce, cheap, and in theory better for the communal lifestyle that they emphasize so much.
I think if they had $50,000 reservations to be the first that would be enough per person to fund everything. It's like buying a $50,000 house (cheap in today's $250,000-$1,500,000 new houses today) so it wouldn't be a stretch by that idea. If it works, I'll move there myself. Always wanted to walk/bike to work but everywhere in America is deadly to do so, even in small towns because the highways stroads cut the towns into 4 parts at the red lights (that don't even have sidewalks)
It would be far cheaper and beneficial to more people to just spend those billions on improving existing city infrastructure in cities that ALREADY exist. This has pump-and-dump written all over it.
What do you think? Will Telosa become a reality? 🤔
No americas keeps promising things but never deliver
Maybe
this is disgusting. anyone who falls for this does not believe in freedom and capitalism, and believes that the life of the ccp is a better idea
Idk
well is they plant too much plants evryone will die because in the night plants cnsume oxygen not produces it
It’s always interesting to see what people think the future will look like then see what it turns out to be. People in the 40’s thought that there would be flying cars in the 80’s. And now people think that they can build sustainable cities in a matter of ten years.
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@@AryadityaD yes for sure I can't believe some people
LOL! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣Not even ten years. The project was announced in 2001. It's now 2023 and 22 years later they have not even decided where to put it yet! Not even which state! So that means the deadline for the completion of Phase 1 is just under 8 years away. It's good to have dreamers, and the people behind this project are certainly dreaming.
@@pilotusa lmao our government worries about the wrong things. You already know barely anything they plan is done. And if it is done it takes forever. Unless it’s somthing dumb example pistol braces. That happens fast
They can actually
I think this will be totally disastrous if they ever decide to build on desert because Phoenix and Las Vegas already faced problem water supplies. they should transform Detroit, Pittsburgh or Cleveland into Telosa City that's probably better than desert. Appalachian might be better choice than desert too.
Yeah use the delicious water from Flint. Refreshing.
Or built it at a state that most people don’t want to go and has a lot of land but has a huge population like Tennessee. I think Tennessee or North Carolina are the best states for telosa
Or in Arkansas or Missouri
There's a lot of water there
Yeah that would be really cool as someone who lives in Pittsburgh and has visited Detroit, I can tell you that there are a lot of poor areas and crumbling buildings here.
sothern Utah has water. and if it a new city they might clean there water suply carfully
Fun fact the meaning of Telos (Τέλος) in Greek is "the end", termination, close. Enjoy the rest of the video now.
' raison d'être ' End Purpose" or "Goal" "End Game" hahaha - They will get backers for cash, then the project will get put on hold, never to finish - same old game of collecting cash and running - Just look at the "global" initiative to develop Dubai, all the sand and slave labor to build cities that sit empty - cities built on sand and now sucking cash for the "line" or "the lie" city - complete nonsense
it's actually "endgoal" like in ultimate goal
Either way it spells the end.
Your either ignorant of what this word means or you're purposely being intellectually dishonest
telos (n.)
"ultimate object or aim," 1904, from Greek telos "the end, limit, goal, fulfillment, completion,"
Live in 15 minutes mini cities so you can be socially locked down into. Plus make the land worth more but not own it. Pass.
Instead of building a new city in the middle of nowhere, let’s improve the cities we already have.
They totally know this, so they're trying to build a new city instead of resolving the one we have
@@liivebyyou9518 While I don't disagree I think its safe to say that getting to plan from the ground up with little hassle is far preferable to waiting years for a city's ecological impact reports to be completed or facing resistance from residents, etc. In Los Angeles their 710 freeway was originally going to run up from Long Beach to Pasadena. Resistance to the freeway had it stopped far short near Cal State Univ Los Angeles. Portions of excavations intended for the remainder of the freeway still exist but were never completed and just sit there from decades of non use.
It's not one or the other, different people are trying different inventions and innovations. It's not like we're only focusing on one
Its way more efficient to periodically build new cities and then abandon old ones, continually migrating around each generation.
I don't mind the new cities but not this way. And you're right, let's fix what we already have.
20 years later...Telosa: America's super ghost town.
Except it was announced in 2021, not 2001. A video that can’t get this simple fact right is useless.
But at least it will create income for a lot of people.
It’s supposed to help solve overpopulation and homelessness so your wrong
@rdspam It's a joke, his point is that like other big desert megacities (California City for instance) this would be abandoned and a joke in 20 years when the project inevitably falls flat. There's a reason people rarely build big cities in the desert historically, it's a nightmare to build infrastructure there.
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I believe the housing market has been highly overpriced. There are different factors. Some of it is more buyers than sellers. People get in bidding wars over a home. Most homes sell within 2 weeks. Then if you want land in the country between the rich folk and China who are paying way to much for property they make it impossible for average people to purchase in the country. It's going to implode because all the people who paid a premium for house's are a paycheck away from losing those homes. Look at the trucking company that just went out of business. How many of those employees will lose their homes. Look at other big companies that announced layoffs. Housing will be taking a big hit and prices will drop
I bought a house with cash in 2021. The insurance and property taxes have doubled since then, and now costs more than I ever paid in rent in my life. I feel that I would be better off living in a studio apartment in a warehouse again and investing the money in anything else.
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This project is about social engineering and control. One of the great balance points in liberal democratic societies is land ownership. You are invested in the society because you own physical land within it, a piece of it. That gives you a substantial amount of control over what is done within it's boundaries, and restricts government from interference or seizure. It's such an important concept in the American System that emmient domain is restricted as to use for a specific public good. That's why the New London decision by the Supreme Court raised all kinds of hell, since private land was being seized to give to a private development. It's also why Bills of Attainder are unconstitutional. You can't seize a person's or corporation's property unless it was attained through criminal means, such as drug dealers buying property with it. When government controls the land, they control the use, and residency. Simply put, they don't like you, they can seize the land and evict you no matter how much you invested into the property's development. They don't like your politics, they can seize it and lease it to someone they do like. While we restrict development through zoning, this is primarily as a protection for land owners, particularly in residential areas so a waste treatment factory isn't dropped like a bomb in the middle of a residential neighborhood, or a factory, destablizing the area and tanking land values, that can then be bought up for a song. If the government tells you that you can only build apartment blocks on the land, then you plans for a house are gone. You don't own the land... and you can be removed from it as a squatter.
Throw on top of that the issue of water, which building in the desert should be a big red flag on, and this place is all kinds of trouble waiting to happen. You are building in the desert. There is is no water. And the Western United States is infamous for it's continuing water wars. Where are you going to get the water? Then there's wildlife in the region, and the ecological damage to the desert. You'd have to build major road networks, power generation, waste disposal, and so much else, just to turn what is financially worthless land into a cash cow for a billionaire and his investors to build a city where they control absolutely every aspect of life because they own the land, the utilities, and all the rest.
This is the reason why we can't have good things. They're unaffordable to the Majority.
Amen. Jesus Christ is the answer.
L'Oligarchie fera des américains de simples esclaves qui seront à leurs pieds et cela a commençé depuis.
Maybe the long plan is to transition it into a prison, where all the inherent problems of this silly monstrosity become in effect benign?
With growing populations it's surely not feasible for every person on the planet to own their own land? It's that sort of thought which often leads to urban sprawl. I get the worries of some around over regulation and surrendering property to a central body, but the harsh reality is: you're no safer at current from your fears than you would be in this alternative scenario. You can still be forced off your land etc, albeit through less direct methods.
3:00 If Telosa is set to be the sole owner of all the land, that means the city's inhabitants are set to be "renters"?
"YOU'LL OWN NOTHING AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY" - WEF AGENDA 2030
Exactly! No thanks!
Exactly!
I mean look at other cities. Owners let their property rot home owning and business/apartments should be different
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that sounds… familiar
3:07 Telosa is set to be the sole owner of all the land
3:15 Land value will grow and that will be put back in the society? Who is going to buy the land if Telosa is going to own all the land?
Lack of water is going to be a huge constraint if they place this city in the wrong place.
Primary Water, drilling 3F's
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@@michaelplumhoff185 If it were that easy, the entire West would not have a water shortage and constant drought.
@@jeffreybower5959 Mars has a good bit of ice. But the atmosphere (or lack thereof) is an insuperable problem. People would have to live deep underground due to cosmic radiation...
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If some of these ideas can be replicated in existing cities we would all have better life . Starting from scratch is easy but very expensive thing
Get ready to work very hard for a lot of people who don't want to work at all. We're doing it already.
Yes, you are right ! If only more people would pull their heads out from a dark place no one want to be in.
yes! i agree. I'm in Kansas City and most of downtown is vacant and nodoby goes there. revamp KC.... it even has a brand new airport we didn't need. lol
@@HC-cb4ypif everyone doing it…y complain thts how the fuckin world goes round
this would only work for robots. ppl are too retarded and will ruin it
I don't know what the developer guys are smokin' but I'd like some.The challenge of solar is not collecting energy when the sun shines, It's storing it for use when the sun is not shining. Combined w water scarcity issues, these guys got a gigantic challenge on their hands.
IT IS NEVER sustainable to live IN THE DESERT.
Ah yes, not at all synonimous with wastefulness and excess, Las Vegas, the shining example of American sustainability
@@skyemonette2238 You joke but Vegas is actually know for their sustainability.
@MIND ... is not self-sustaining.
@@JadPker yes it is. Seriously look it up. This is not some hidden fact or secret.
@@AL-lh2ht It runs off 100% renewable energy, that doesn't make it self-sustaining. Electric power is not the sole resource humanity needs to exist.
"Equitisim Tower" (Equitisim isn't a word...) Sounds like the final location of a dystopian movie.
Just one question - water? Large western desert cities such as Phoenix and Las Vegas are already struggling with the problem of how to supply their rapidly growing populations with water. Is Telosa going to magically make water appear to support it's people? If not, where is it going to come from?
Right! This idea seems forced. 😬
Ever hear of atmospheric river? If the city is built tall enough, you can literally extract "rivers" out of thin air.
The air silly - :)
@@jasonjanes3256 hmmm, I guess you've not seen condensation let alone heard of it.
That's silly🤣
You should try something like, "If there's a will, There's a way" Let me guess, You never heard of that one either.🤣 Yep silly
@@andybilakshow260 Jesus Christ you were not joking.
Ah, lets build ANOTHER city in the middle of a desert, in a drought stricken area, near nothing important.
Well, Telosa will be important by itself. But still, it will be Near Las Vegas, not so far away from LA or SF. Even if it’s constructed in Texas, it could be near to the important city’s there. M
@@iamantoniohz This is a fake vanity project from a delusional billionare that will never happen. history has countless attemps of wierd vanety project that end up failing.
@@iamantoniohz
LA and LV are both great examples of why we shouldn't build cities in deserts.
@ras222 I love both places but I'm from Scotland
@@ras22273 I mean, Telosa will have a unique system to reuse the water. I don’t know other than that what’s the problem.
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@@rosario3317 SO WHY do the Elites still seeking money from governments for this project. bwahahahahaha 🤪😂
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This is clearly Utopia, that will never be finished
Not even getting started.
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Marc Lore "since exploiting all my Wal-Mart workers, I plan to make an entire equitable city"
5:15 Having wind turbines inside the city is a really bad idea. They're noisy as heck and they have an inconvenient habit of killing birds, which are gonna fall onto the streets and houses below.
but free lunch
somehow, i find it really hard to belive billionaires care about the general population
Ideas like the line and telosa are nothing but the dreams of control freak wannabe dictators
They don’t. This is all a vanity project.
If the city is not building next to the ocean or sea, business costs will be too much and not efficient.
Why?
@@_will795 My guess is that most trading is done near the coasts
You mean like Las Vegas?
It’s more likely that the Las Vegas metropolitan region will add 5 million more residents in the next 40 years before a brand new city pops up.
The biggest hurdle is the first phase. Getting setup JUST to setup a city in an inhospitable region can definitely break this project.
Dubai has one of the deepest wallets in the world and they can’t even get half their projects done (which are all past their deadline).
And places within the USA take twice as much money to build half at much proposed and at 3x the projected length of time (looking at you NY and LA).
The other issue is that major city-regions will likely add 5 million people each over the next 40 years. In 2060, Telosa will seem like a town.
With climate change, those cities are going to fry before they reach any large population.
It's naive to think everyone wants to live in a small apartment stacked on top of each other. People with means will always want more space and have something different.
But how else can the elites control our lives?
That is alr how cities are anyway😂
Then live in a rural area, nobody is forcing you to move to a dense city.
@@OccultEclipse and your point is?
@@b3arwithm3 That your complaint is irrelevant. Cities are developed for a large population to live in a dense area, the people that don’t want that can live in rural or suburban areas. There was zero need for you to say anything at all.
I believe it when I see it. Most planned citied have proven too expensive for the average earner, since the high construction costs usually translate to high rents. It also really depends on what the developers consider „affordable“. Curious to see how this will turn out.
Not likely for everyday people. Studio apartments are going for $2000 a month. How is anyone supposed to be able to afford to live in a place like this? You would probably have to pay a few million for a basic unit suitable for one person.
I think this city should be built somewhere in the Northeast or Midwest rather than in the desert.
I agree especially with the Midwest. I was just thinking that before I came across ur comment. Even tho we get winters in the Midwest imagine a city built like that near one of the Great Lakes especially Lake Michigan.
Finding somewhere near a source of water with plentiful rainfall would be ideal. But land is the most expensive part of any construction job, and no place beats the desert in cheap land.
It’s in Texas or New Mexico
@@Justinxoxo naw it’s Tennessee or Kentucky is the most ideal. Not too cold like Chicago, nor not too hot like Las Vegas, perfect example is cities like Memphis and Nashville, look at their weather throughout the year.
The most scary part is why this one man is allowed to have so much wealth and power.
& Own The Land That Other people pay to Make Houses On...............
Why can't he? It's a free world. Because you are probably lazy, why should this guy be denied access to build wealth. Without people like this, our country would be nothing. If Bezos didn't create Amazon, look where we would be.
I`m not sure, but isn`t this "self financing mechanism" same / similar as one as is now in China and it is one of the reason for the whole developer disaster? I know, in China it is mixed with bank loans, CCP and so on, but ...
The problem is fresh water. You need the natural grasslands, trees, and bushes of the area to replinish natural aquifers. There's a park in Texas that had been farm land and/or ranch land that the owner decided to change back into the natural land that was initially there before people ruined it. He planted the type of plants that had been removed by people and found out a few decades later that there was actually some natural aquifers that had dried up because the farming had been plants with roots that didn't hydrate the aquifer like the natural grasses, trees, and bushes of the land did. He was pleasantly surprised that with the results. Building these cities, humans need to take this into consideration. Water is our most precious resource. Fresh water.
The idea is to build it far from water, or anything else humans need, so inhabitants are forced to comply with whatever the demands would be. Its begins in luxury, but later becomes a slum, then a prison.
@@eyoung1683 very dramatic, they could have a desalination plant that starts in the Pacific Ocean
The dessert also is as close as you would get to Mars. It's a billionaire race who can change the landscape
Exactly this. Also a great way for politicians to launder their money while acting like they're doing it for the people :/
There was a man, many years ago, who claims to have located a massive underground river in Nevada, while he was searching for gold. However he refused to reveal the location before he died.
oh wow.... in that case these mega project people should really look for it.
@@fileminokilicho3159 I am not certain they should. People building and running these new cities want to impose some drastic new rules on people living in these cities that are very un-American.
Same guy who found some crazy ancient civilizations cave system in the Grand Canyon?
Yeah it's right there next to the underground tunnels and dumbs that Phil Schneider spoke of right before he "suicided" himself
And the Earth is hollow, and there's an ocean on the upside down underground part where all the Atlanteans relocated a few millenia back.
This give me “You’ll own nothing and love it” vibes
I give it a year before we all forget about this, and it quietly just fizzles out
If only they stop spending all that money on war
@DownRange71 they don’t spend alot of money just to kill other humans, its also to show dominance and power. This world is like a jungle, the stronger you are the more dominance you have
They make money from these wars. They make the warring state dependant on their equipment and they'll pay anything to keep their sovreignty
@DownRange71 In a world of pacifists, the one person to use violence will rule everyone.
Society if we didn’t fight
debt, debt, and debt.
This is amazing video.. great informative video..
You guys bettee hope it doesnt get this far. We'll be living a dystopian movie.
amazing forecasting
This is the perfect example of a Communist dystopia.
Other countries are doing the same thing and its terrible
if this is communism i’m in!!!
Nice and informative video.
this looks like a potential model for cities that will someday be built on other planets
They made a cartoon series about this idea.
It's called Aeon Flux
You know what would ACTUALLY be cool? Is if these bizzarionnaires would just invest heavily in an area like Detroit, save the most prominent historical buildings and integrate them into a sustainable and ETHICAL community based city. The biggest issue (other than the obvious COMPLETE illogical ideology) with ALL of these utopia cities, is that everyone is still basing the entire strategy on a financial metric.
“illogical ideology “ Why don’t you explain what you mean by that?
Sarif Industries
Too many unsavoury characters in Detroit
What do you mean save only historical buildings? as a resident of michigan a modern building like the ren cen is more important culturally and objectively than things like the old concert halls and mansions, By denying the preservation of all our modern buildings you deny the preservation of the entire range of archtecture from the 50s to now, Almost all of it. destroying all buildings considered modern is just as big of a mistake in cultural preservation as the 60s were in urban renewal, even worse because theres still historical buildings left, Millenials need to consider more about a city than just the buildings that look old, especially by people that don't live there, also destruction of the suburbs would trigger incredible backlash, even if its not planned well at all its still part of communities and area history, 70s were 50 years ago, thats history.
@@c.dsupreme6120 they call that illogical yet propose to demolish all of detroits history after 1950
Great video! One major constraint on an infrastructure project this large will be access to raw materials, e.g. steel and aluminium (or "aluminum"!) for construction and engineering, or copper for electricity generation and connectivity. And that’s not to mention the amount of materials already in short supply that you would need to build solar and wind power facilities, such as rare earths and nickel. Even if the US brings some refining/smelting capacity back onshore (most of these value chains are currently dominated by China), a project the size of Telosa could push up prices of the raw inputs, e.g. iron ore for steelmaking - which obviously raises new concerns about funding.
Interesting point, wonder if we'll ever see steel plants come back to life in America.
Not to mention where all that sewage is going to go to.
Bright ideas, better said than done.
10 years later this guy was our animated channel
I’m think we should move towns and cities and combine them into bigger cities and towns, while massively creating new infrastructure, public work jobs, roads, highways, also restructuring cities and towns adding more biking trails, walkways, bus lines, and more and creating less highways in cities, also creating new architecture jobs, plumbing jobs, construction jobs, manufacturing jobs, and much more. And we should start heading for Fusion Power Technology, Wind Turbine, and Solar Energy Technology as the new energy efficiency instead of nuclear and current energy sources
I mean, only 22 years since a billionaire decided to build a desert city that no one has heard of. Totally realistic. Lol. Maybe work on the cities we have and improving what we already have issues with.
because these cities we live in are built for profits not evolutionary change, so sometimes it's better to design fresh from the ground up - Like Factory Five's new kit the F9
@@jasonjanes3256 what part of this city provides evolutionary change? This concept of property value growing exists in every city around the world. The only other change that seems suggested is the virtue signaling of autonomous EVs, which are less sustainable for the planet than trucks.
If you read the website it’s like reading a billionaire wet dream of a communist capitalist commune.
Unveiled in 2021, not 2001. Clown video.
Nice video
Where will they get the water?
From woke’s people tears
@@JustChillingNahhhhMean grow up you edge lord
@@JustChillingNahhhhMean woke people hate the city?
Great idea...I will go leave there..🌹
This will turn out like California's high speed rail.
WOW.
No. Just - WOW
Yes, because despite the fact that throughout human history we built cities near bodies of water, let’s instead fit up to five million people in a drought stricken area miles from any body of water. There are pre-existing cities to invest in…..
Everyone is going to want to live there. Who decides who gets to live there?
Have any of these future cities ever actually been a success?
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RIP to urban planning ☠
As it should be. We’re destroying our eco system at an unimaginable rate something has to be done.
It’s a need, I’m going to tap in to see.
"You'll own nothing and be happy" WEF vision for complete control.
Diverting water to desert cities will just cause ecological problems in other areas as we keep seeing already. It's a nice utopian dream, but very flawed in its hopefulness.
So, an investor buys a bit of land and builds on it (According to what specifications?) then sells it to....what, me? And then that investors profits will go to building more of the city because...what? What if the investor takes their money and leaves? And where does the average citizen come in?
If the investor takes their money they probably will be sued because they would have had to sign a contract. Right? And average citizens move in when homes are built..
The average citizen will obviously need to have money, at least some money, so you can buy land, or at least some minimum space.
My first thought. The city owns the land and won't sell it? But when the value goes up that value will somehow generate money without selling it?
Ahh yes no property rights. Nothing could go wrong I’m sure. They’re trying to make us all peasants
@@righteousmammon9011 I just don't get how they think the value will go up if it's something noone can buy. And where does the money come from if it can't get bought? I feel like these people think you can plug a power strip into itself.
0:15 Already a red flag. Americans can’t live without their cars. Without ditching that culture, they can never be as efficient as Japan
How does this billionaire not understand the difference between equity and equality? He is also removing the mental health factor from the homeless population problems.
Great to see a Visionary.
People already tried this. California City was planned, partly built but failed because it's still in the middle of the dessert
Yep, it was a real estate scam.
The problem isn’t the material structure built around people. The problem is people.
Will this "equity" tower be made out of ivory?
It sounds like an anime plot! Why does this give me so much joy!? What if something went wrong and at first they announced it was fine but soon it got worse causing everyone to have to fend for their lives!? 🤩
Don’t ask…
Unveiled in September 2001…ah yes, that’s a good omen
September 2021. Bad omen for the video’s quality.
Insane mega project is an understatement.....
Never gonna happen!!! $$$$$$$$$$$
Why does this look like an episode of West world and why do I think it'll end in the same way.
This is the 6th or 7th rendition of Telosa.
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Everyone wants “equitism” but they all need their rich friends to get anything done 🙃
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This is an unfortunate presentation. What sets this city apart? "Solar on the roofs and a couple tower farms." There isn't a major difference from existing cities to this except that they have a large-scale plan before construction begins. You want to build in a desert? Hmm. No ocean nearby for a desalination plant so how are you getting your water source? Say hello to another San Joaquin Valley situation. You need to create a fundamental change in how a city operates or find effective sustainability. EVs are NOT sustainable and leave a greater carbon footprint than a Chevy Suburban. And how are you going to develop a couple of square miles of city and all the required infrastructure by 2030 when you don't even have a plot, let alone detailed plans of each building to be built? For something of this magnitude to be built that quickly you need material contracts already hashed out, trade partners under contract, and maybe some money to pay for it all. Can billionaires please stop suggesting half-baked ideas just because they are trying to leave a legacy?
Well it looks good on paper.
Can you make a video about Chinas planned future city? Xiongan.
Yeah👍
Telosa would be a good name for a model of vehicle.
I think it's an exciting idea. But, first, they need to look are areas that are similar to the San Diego or even LA temperatures where it doesn't get to cold or to hot. This will save a ton on utility experiences, plus give the residents actual time throughout the year to actually enjoy the outdoors. Second, they'll have to regulate and screen incoming residents and weed out people with a criminal history and people who are homeless because of just laziness and unwillingness to participate. Finally, they need to have some kind of tests to evaluate and eliminate any anarchist types whom are never happy and want to create chaos wherever they go. If they do these things then they may get near to a sudo utopia.
That leads to bias. But it would set a precedence for a progressive city.
@@axxxonn Yes, it would. But, life is filled with bias's and you're right, it would.
The undesirables will buy land just outside of it so as it grows it can never grow too much.
Are you kidding me? Do you think they care about the comfort of the slaves that will live here or the criminals that will take over? They are touting "equity", which means EVERYONE, thug or not. If they don't allow criminals, they will be "racist" or some kind of "ist"! You will be forced to live with murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. The bad apples will poison the rest. Good luck living in that society where you won't be able to leave, either!
Reminds me of California City. And yeah.. also wondering where the water is going to come from.
This maybe a concept at first, but it got me captivated because I believe it had very well verbalized the perfect "thought-foundation" or foundation of what should be the perfect approach in cities and the grander scale of it.
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Exciting Idea!! But Time will tell. Its always interesting to envision what the future may have in-store for us
Its agenda 2030 , Total control over everything about everyone , except the globalists . Total socialism ,
How can they plan the project if they don't even know where the location will be?...
I love the vision, though have a few concerns; the biggest being so called "Equitism". Let me phrase it this way; a system where people's reward for improving their own property gets dispersed equally among the populous, sound familiar? That's because it's Socialism, which, (let's be honest here) is Communism. I would point out why that's a bad thing, but I think we all took History class. My second concern is kind of a weird one, upkeep. The basic bland, rigid, straight grid system works well because it's efficient- not only for travel, but for upkeep. Now let's look at Telosa's streets; they are curved, they have solid rounded cement planters constantly breaking them up, and they have grass on either side. Those are not streets, those are gardens, and gardens require a crap ton of water, (which the desert has none of), fertile soil, (which the desert has none of), and gardeners to cut the grass, trim the trees, and so forth. That's not even accounting for all the plants hanging off the sides of buildings, in the end like 35% of the workforce would have to be dedicated entirely to gardeners, which makes for a very weak economy. This whole concept is just a pretty picture of a science fiction utopia, and as much as I love science fiction, it won't work. Maybe in a tropical or grassland area, but not in the desert. -If they really wanted to build in the desert, I would recommend using Earth ship style housing, that way it would use the desert to their advantage and save on electricity. Either that or use a similar style to Habitat 67, easy to reproduce, cheap, and in theory better for the communal lifestyle that they emphasize so much.
I think if they had $50,000 reservations to be the first that would be enough per person to fund everything.
It's like buying a $50,000 house (cheap in today's $250,000-$1,500,000 new houses today) so it wouldn't be a stretch by that idea.
If it works, I'll move there myself. Always wanted to walk/bike to work but everywhere in America is deadly to do so, even in small towns because the highways stroads cut the towns into 4 parts at the red lights (that don't even have sidewalks)
Ex CEO of Walmart saw how shitty they paid their employees versus how much money he maid so he decided to make a dream city of equality
this will never happen
Good posibility
It would be far cheaper and beneficial to more people to just spend those billions on improving existing city infrastructure in cities that ALREADY exist. This has pump-and-dump written all over it.
Oh so the environment will magically just change.
Can't fix what we have so let's build something new in the middle of the dessert.
Hermoso video
It'll be the perfect open air prison
They lost me the moment they mentioned equitism.