Regretting your class choice in games
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2023
- Ever regretted your class choice?
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Well to be fair, NOT standing out is a very good trait for being an assasin
How else will you pick those yellow blooms without being detected?
my cat went missing weeks ago and my dog havent been the same since so i couldnt enjoy the video too much
@@scoper7897 your cat became an assassin
Not as an assassin berserker
@@dontage815 dude thats too soon :( my friend was in army and he lost his hand so we cant play duo games anymore
And then Rowan finally goes through the prolog again as a Herbalist just to find out they were heavily nerfed
My first thought, exactly!
Better not! That poor NPC may run out of legs!
@PrimePal plus probably healing, teleportation, enhanced senses near trees
😂 It does really happen in some games!!
That armor was only for 1rst time players you don't get it if you've already made a character.
You can tell assassin was a older class in need of new skills and a rework while herbalist was a newer class with an updated story and gear to go along with it.
True
Thats the law
The more new player attractive a class is, the more fun and broken stuff it gets
Like in EQ rogue and druid.
I freaking Hate it that video games still do that!
Herbalist is actually an older class that got reworked, that's why they put a quest that gives you free enchanted armor, so you can skip the old questline and go straight to current, new content!
oh come on...
Thats true😅
hehehe
The fact that Rowan's quests are literal jobs for an Herbalists is hilarious.
I'm pretty sure it's what we call irony
I've actually done quests making poisons in a few games..
I just played the part where I had to gather plants in Ghost of Tsushima for making poison to assassinate enemies and watching this skit ending was hilarious
@@patt5085havent we all
Adam’s character was so sweet about it, consistently trying to give Rowan a chance to flex…
...only ending up with Rowan looking more and more useless. 😆
Adam being Adam.
Adam is always so humble
@@jrh4642 Especially as High Sorcerer Baradun. (Got a slight problem with his middle finger though.)
@@AldorEricsson yeah he needs to get that looked at.
One of the very few times Adam can really stick it to Rowan but he’s just too damn nice of a guy to take advantage. You’re a lucky man Rowan, always remember that.
To be honest, Adam being supportive and nice almost hurts more than if he was to stick it to Rowan.
Adam being so nice in most of the skits really empowers his performance as Baradun when he can just go full asshole. It's beautiful.
He stuck it out to rowan once and we all know what happens when you do that in some way shape or form Rowan will find a way to fuck you over
I half expected Adam to say "oh, you need {exotic plant}, {more exotic plant}, and {incredibly rare and hard-to-make plant extract}? I have some right here. How much do you need?"
Imagine if Ben replaces adam
Adam was very encouraging, so he didn't tell Rowan that he also got a dryad as a wife, ability to become invisible in the forest, a secret hideout and a unicorn instead of a horse 😊
Even better, he have Spirit Elk
You convinced me at Dryad. 😉
His passive skill "Rooting" : After 3s stood still, root from his boot (relic set) will hold ground, heal 15% per sec if not attacked, 10% per sec if attacked. Imune to all projectile, status effects and increase def. All elemental magic does nothing, except thunder (90%) and fire (50%), but that easily can be countered with that insane heal.
@@ulfr2333 sounds amazing for endgame for endgame raids
a dryad wife... damn😏
A 5 minute skit has better Druid armor than anything we've seen in WoW in the past 19 years.
The dragonflight stuff isn't that bad tho
@@oplars6487 still waiting for the day i can dress up my druid, instead changing skins.
That's because Druids morph. DKs had some great choices in WotLK, even WoD PvP gear was rather nice looking. The purple judgement set (TBC) on Dks looks great. I find leather users are harder to make decent transmogs, it's mostly plate and cloth users with the epic stuff.
totally agree, a druid transmog looking like this would be just awesome
If you apply wow logic to it the skit doesn't work since rogue is way cooler than druid in the late game. Even in the early game rogue is popular for pvp twinking.
I am the master of picking wrong class in every game. 😂
Yep right there with you. The class I pick always seems to be most challenging or about to be hit with the ultimate nerf bat. I always try to play what I think seems fun but then find out in the long run that it gets running into gate keepers near the end.
How is that possible?
There is no such things as wrong classes.
Search everywhere on the internet and people will say that 3.5e Eldritch Knight sucks balls and I only played EK like, every character I make. The most fun I've ever had, even though everyone in the table was saying I picked the "wrong class".
If it works for you, even if other people say its unremarkable, then its not wrong.
It's the gamer equivalent of being the person who always orders the worst dish when you try new restaurants. Though I often find myself in both scenarios
I feel you. Every time I reroll and reach max level with my new class, it gets nerfed. Oh well..
I love how genuinely encouraging Adam is when it's so painfully obvious that Rowan got squat and Adam is living out the dream. Every sentence from him is like rubbing salt into deep wounds. 🤣
Rowan literally got a squat.
Rowan LITERALLY got squat... #5%crouch haha
We all know Rowan would’ve rubbed it in Adam’s face if the roles were reversed lol
Such a shame that someone would be needed on the new night shifts in the store and Adam looks like the best fit for it so he will not be able to play the game so much :).
Deep Wounds is actually a really awesome assassin ability Rowan's about to get. 2.5% extra damage from poisons when you attack from crouching.
I really hope we get more of these two, with Rowen having to live with the bad class choice and Adam trying to be morally supportive the entire time while being a badass.
Seriously. We need a follow up
Lol, I would enjoy seeing this as a subseries within Epic NPC Man
Adam gets a forest. Like an entire forest area as his Home / Domain. Rowan can buy a room in a shady Inn lol
I am in for any skit where rowan receives his karma
The "ahh, the forest is calling me" line is so underrated and brilliantly delivered. Class act guys. Well done.
Begining on a changeling quest where he return as an outsider with magical stealth like permanent blur and concealed in darkness.
@@robertagren9360 and the passive fully work only in a forest, but outside it still have 70% efficacy while outside a city and 30% inside one XD
Adam - Wow that stealth crouch ability is pretty cool! How did you do that?
Rowan - You _feel_ yourself fade into your surroundings ... and then just press C
You must hone the darkness, embrace the unseen.............(under breath) "and then you just press c"😒
So you're telling me climbing that mountain to get to you and doing all of those mushroom gathering quests were a complete waste of time and i could have just pressed C??? 😂
@@hankhooper1637 nahh.. you cant just "press C" in collecting quests... but you can buy diamonds to skip those quests 😂😂
I think I deserve my little chocky biscuit!
@@hankhooper1637 I think you'll agree that the journey is much more important
Exactly the fantastic plot twist I was hoping for.
And thank you for Ultra-Supportive Adam.
Same, I like being the Support class that is versatile and bonus if it can defend itself, but it seems in this instance it is the Main Character role (And that is why you read the spoiler free recommendations (Tips and tricks for early stages) before going into unchangeable decisions.
More like lame plot twist.
There was no plot twist....
As someone who has played the witcher 3 i never felt like it's a twist, i just always expected it.
and I still somehow didnt see it coming haha
I hear if you choose the carpenter class you can eventually unlock the "son of god" storyline
"Jesus Is Calling Your Name"
😂 underated reference
If you take the Seer class you can help the carpenter and become his scribe and wingman when you get the class upgrade to Prophet
Clever
and a bandit gigolo can unlock the secret class - Prophet
Was super fun being a cameo in this video, playing as the hawk was a tough role but happy to have pulled it off!
That fly over was epic, well done!
I thought that was you! Well played. Might be a "Best Supporting" emmy in it for you.
Ong I'm your fan 🔥
Noice
we are well aware of your schemes, Bo Bo the evil hawk.
My favorite detail in this video is that Rowan is actually one level higher than Adam. Meaning there's no chance that Adam has more cool shit because he simply leveled faster and got to the cool shit Rowan has yet to get to. What'll really suck is that they'll wait until Rowan finally gives up on the assassin class and rerolls to herbalist, then gets that herbalist allll the way to the level cap, and that point they'll release an expansion that has all the cool stuff and massive buffs for the assassin class that Rowan always wanted.
I firmly believe that Adam just spent some money on the game and didn't mention it
it happened to me years ago. I don't really remember what patch or expansion it was because it was so long ago, but in WoW I played mainly paladin, but there was a time when that class was so forgotten and generally useless if you don't want to be a mediocre healer that I finally forced myself and rerolled into something else. Literally 2 weeks after I got my new main to max level and got a decent gear to start raiding on him the patch notes for the next public test realm were released and Paladin was about to get massive buffs (and cherry on top, the class I switched into got massively nerfed). I quit the game for a while after that. I stuck around on paladin for multiple patches waiting for miracle and they buffed him right after I gave up
@@MessePl What reroll? Everyone in WoW play several alts... you don't have to ditch your main character do make a new alt?
I'll tell you a secret, Adam got that gear from the store, with real money.
@Druid of Scosglen No, that's Bungie.
Wait, same shit.
I love how Rowan was even one level higher. A small detail, but a well thought out one.
Well now I have to re-watch because I missed that looking at the gorgeous production values and costuming.
Loved that
Adam's acting when he is awkwardly trying to find something to compliment about Rowan's outfit and abilities was really good lol
poor guy he went assassin and ended up with a lamo version of herbalist class🤣
Little does Rowan know that the crouch ability lets him go through smaller entrances to secret loot inaccessible to other classes
That's some top class visual effects. It's so nice to see the glow up between older skits and now in the costumes the décors and the CGI
Yeah, that was beautiful!
right...
@@thomgizziz left...
In Lost Ark:
People wanted to be Bard, Paladin, and Sorceress because of their exclusive skins.
The Assassin would be the Reaper. lol
Better CGI than Marvel's.
1:30 I like how Adam says "it's his leg" like it's totally normal to get an NPC's leg as reward
Well you know, without Wirts leg you cannot open the Secret Cow Level.
Such a great line 😂😂
Rocket Raccoon
@@HProtagVtuber IS THAT WHAT HE SAID, I missed what the staff was XDXD
well maybe it was his third one, so he doesnt need it to walk
Rowan picking the flower at the end was 100% me as Arthur going for 100% in RDR2
2:50 just realizing that part of the punchline was he was making fun of the herbalist quests for collecting plants and herbs, but ended up doing that as an assassin.
Love when the “shit class no one picks” is actually one of the most powerful ones.
Same in one of the MMOs I play... People thought my main class was "lowest tier, low DPS" but I usually out-damage everyone (100% crit rate, additional high damage attacks per crit with a burst every few seconds, can steal damage-multiplier buffs from other classes and stack them) 🤣
mages and wizard for balance are very shit early on, then they are over OP
Until the meta is established and everyone chooses it to be meta relevant
@@bladerj too bad "then" is usually near and after endgame, where most players stay eternally!
Sometimes you can even do it in a mature game that's been patched. There are three kinds of underpowered in reality. No 1 is actual underpowered, something a bit weaker than normal, and those are usually still viable just slightly less good. No 2 is really just "hard to play". A class that's not straightforwards and requires more understanding or mechanics and so people don't play it as often but those who understand it just wreck shop. No 3 is something that's very good but is non-DPS. Example is Atlas in Warframe. Vs weak enemies all these DPS frames just killing everything. But then the mission scales as it goes along. And then when its time to leave they're not able to kill anything all crazy any more and they die before reaching the exit and you keep on with your steady killing as you casually make your way to the exit and save the run. No 4 is anything I pick in an MMORPG, I tend to go off the beaten path but my first MMO was Dark Age of Camelot and got my butt kicked for years. While I was only an average player there it turns out that makes you a fantastic player in basically every other MMORPG. So I just tend to excel regardless of class thanks to having survived that meat grinder of DAOC lol.
Holy shit, the effects on Adam's cloak and make-up are INCREDIBLE. I love how it looks iridescent when he turns and moves. Was also thrilled to see it at the end without any effects, really shows how much effort went in. The edge lighting on some of the leaves too, so cool!
The production values in this series just keeps raising the bar and I love it
They must have pulled the same special effects crew that did Green Lantern 🤣
Yeah, loved it too, very well done.
I thought we agreed to stop making super suits green and animated?
@@NeoTechni bad memories of Green Lantern? :D
This shows *EXACTLY* why I like Druids over Rogues. Sure in the Rogues you can strike from the shadows, but (some) druids can quite literally transform into elements spirits of fire, water, earth, and air. I mean one second you’re fighting a normal dude, the next he’s a polar bear, then a buffalo, then a magical creature of the earth, made of the strongest volcanic stones and the size of a tank.
I played a feral druid back in the burning crusade and cataclysm days of Wow, I always told people that while druids might not be quite as good at being a rogue as rogues are, that is the price we pay in order to exercise our right to bear arms.
What are some games like this?
@@notbob4542playing a Druid in d&d
That was the most humble experience of starting a online rpg coop game with a friend ever haha. Amazing acting.
"+10% if it's a full moon" Damn it Rowan you went for a moon beast build again !
Outrageous..
He can get invisible too for 0.01 seconds outside combat
What a good callback!
Is it moon based build or moon beast bulid?
@@tommyherbertson8037 You made me check again, and it's moon beast build ;)
Feels so good for Adam to finally get a good ending :)
Did that bald guy get a good ending? I felt so bad for him when his chest was looted.
@@mitchjohnson4714 no he had to kill his mom because the adventurer didn’t choose lol
@@mitchjohnson4714 that guy is cute and funny but they don't even remember his birthday.
@@Greatwingedwarrior and to sell his child to the orcs haha
He will not get paid this month.
Imagine how strong the "Married Homemaker" class might be.
Stamp collector. Level 100. Let's duel.
Big stamp hammer and spell of the written future able to avoid the next round.
Bro, they need to make an actual game based off their shorts. It would be such an epic game! Love your content!
Did you see their episode about micro transactions? Seems like that would make the game terrible.
@@Eternalwarpuppy True....
@@Eternalwarpuppy so they know that and we could guess, they cut that specific thing out :-P
Rowan picking flowers at the end after making fun of Adam for doing that very thing. Priceless 😂
Lets not forget the irony that he had to go around picking up ingredients for poisons which is exactly what he didn't want to do and what he was telling Adam about.
@@rytramprophet843 That's kinda what I just said mate.
@@rytramprophet843 That's kinda what he/she just said mate.
@@rytramprophet843 thats kinda what was being discussed mate
NGL, if I was the director of a game like this and such a clearly mundane sounding class was suggested, I'd absolutely give it so much sick shit to do because if someone's going to pick that quest then they're going to be dedicated and should be rewarded for that. Fuck assassin though, that's basic as hell. Almost as basic as a Human Fighter in D&D.
Well, they nailed the feeling of a high school reunion.
that's why I never attended mine XD
Ahh shit…I got my first one in a few years…..damn…I might skip it
Fucking exactly
@@Tsupek Share your feeling; would be so ashamed to make my former mates feeling like "total losers" and just ain't as smooth as Adam 😁
Little does Rowan know, assassin later unlocks shadow magic and is able to go invisible and manipulate the darkness. Too bad he never went beyond lvl 10
he's lvl 22 in the skit, so more like not beyond lvl 25
The crouch buff got me 🤣
Rowan bringing back the "shade away" line at 0:42 was a nice nod to older episodes (only this time things didn't go so well for him)
That sounds so familiar, I swear I heard it before but can’t remember what episode or even universe it was from
And Adam's cloak probably has more stealth than rowan's as seen when adam was touching the tree 🤣
@@contrapasso1539 There was this episode you mentioned and another one where Rowan is using his stealth skills to steal from Eugene
I like to think, this is that character's origin story, later becoming a troll/greifer to finally feel powerful and fulfillment with his disappointment
"enjoy picking flowers dude"
4:00
The best part of this is that even though Rowan’s a level higher than Adam, he’s so clearly outclassed!
Must be a new champ in game that herbalish... god i hate it...
until pvp comes and he one hit's k.o the giant flaming herbalist morphed into a tree.
Basically D&D
I see what you did there..
@@storytellercortes8794 well not really because he play pve so pvp power is meaningless for him XD
I like how the assassin ended up collecting more plants for his quest than the herbalist.
I freaking love irony. Rowan thought he’d be doing badass assassin’s creed stuff but ends up picking flowers like he thought Adam would. Meanwhile, Adam gets an eagle, a magic staff, and friendships with tree people.
Assasin class will start hard after lv30,revolutions straight up assassinations of emperors and corrupted kings politicians,helping the revolution win against them
Damn, the effects in this video were beautiful.
The acting as well, of course :)
Acting was okay I guess.
Effects on point though 😍
@@VivaLaDirtLeague ehhh I'd say less okay and more along the lines of mediocre.
That Rowan guy for example.... He's just such a ...................... dingo dingus.
@@Kspice9000
"That's so Dingo!!"
@@VivaLaDirtLeague It's a good thing to not be always satisfied with our own performances. This way you'll keep pushing to get better and better.
But for me, that was perfect. Rowan boasting, Adam disappointment and shame at first, then the reverse sweep awkwardness for the classes being the opposite of what they thought initially were very logic and natural. Nice acting for both of you.
Keep making your way to perfection.
Indeed, the effects were amazing too. Good job!
@@VivaLaDirtLeague So, you can make this awesome herbalist armour on screen, but refuse to do it for Bobs Ice-armour ......I am begining to think you do it intentionally...........
I really do like how VLDL do these skits where they could have SO easily made a character be smug or snarky, but they just make 'em super polite and/or friendly and it still all works.
Except for the skit where one of them kills the npc over and over again just to dont let the other one have fun
Idk the name
That's the kiwi culture coming through.
Imo that's exactly why it works. Would have been a pretty boring skit otherwise
But they do. That's just Adam. Roman very often plays Smug arrogant characters.
“Ooh. I’m…trying not to make fun of you, but it’s really hard, and you can tell.” It’s such a specific and vicious feeling. xD
Rowan probably failed the assassin's guild so he got stuck picking grass.
" Well , when you get bored of playing in the dirt and picking herbs- "
Bars
The assassin class is a actually pretty powerful and offers many great rewards like the herbalist. The mistake Rowan made was how he spec’d his class… because only a NOOB would go for a Moon Beast build! Even Adam actually felt sorry for him… ❤
in the early release of the game, the (war with the werewolves) questline was interesting, a Moon Beast Assassin would gain an advantage in assassinating Werewolf pack leaders and gain some cool loot like (werewolf lord pelt) to which he can take to Bodger the blacksmith to build him a (Lunar Fur Cloak)....
this questline was deleted from the later releases of the game tho, because it was deemed (too violent) for the game's PG13 rating.... and the devs didn't care to change this build because no one actually chooses it.
@Belal Abu Sultan Not going to lie I love how this comment section adds to the story with its own meta lore.
@@vincentfrick6880
thank you... I do love how VLDL make their fake game open enough for us to add lore to it, the lore doesn't even have to be consistent so long it adds to the video your'e commenting on :)
@@belalabusultan5911 is it a real game? what is it caled?
@@Damian-oe6mg
Sorry, but it's a fake game, it doesn't exist, but VLDL named it (Skycraft) by combining the names of the famous RPG games (Skyrim) and (Warcraft).
still fun to talk about it like a real game tho :P
If Rowan actually bothered to read the dialogue like Adam did, he would know all his op enchanted armor is in sidequests that involve stealing a dungeon boss’s treasure without fighting a single enemy, and assassinating a dark dragon without being noticed.
He stumbled upon those quests randomly and then failed them.
Exactly. He just skips, lol.
"OPTIONAL"
They meet later on the max lvl. Adam already progressed faster because he had much more fun and is end-game grinding the best gear out there, special perks that give 1% more skill and 5 hp etc. Rowan hits max lvl 1 month later, all his skills were basically like "Stab 1" that's just a standard animation of an attack with a dagger "Stab 2" that has a red glow to it but very tiny and barely visible and is the same animation, +2 damage on sneak attack. At the max lvl, he does a first entry quest that give a starting dagger, it's not like the most grindy weapons out there but it's much better than greens and blues you find in the dungeons so he doesn't have to grind for a weapon right now. They enter a 2v2 arena to finally have some fun together..
Turns out Adam is doing something akin to giggling someone with a brush. For a full combo he need to cast a lot spells, he always gets stunned, cancelled, enemy run away before he can finish it and first de-buffs run to follow with DMG expire.. in PvE, mobs often die in a party before he can finish the combo. Rowan just enters first arena and turns out he gets a huge, visible damage that sometimes drop 20 or more of enemy health bar. He stacked a lot of these sneak damage bonuses so he attacks from the back, target the enemy with Stab 1 and follow-up with a thick, quarantted crit from Stab 2. Not only that, but near the end he unlocked "Dance of blades" which give him a big attack speed boost so his usual pretty boring animation when sped-up, looks kinda dope like in anime. Herbalist knows for his heals, his best heals are mostly over time so if he gets focused, most of the time they don't outpace the enemy's damage and in the end stats, his healing done isn't that much. He can heal well but he needs to hide and wait for a bit but if he does it, they argue that Adam escaped and was doing nothing while they were killing Rowan. There are 3 herbalist sub-clases - one is healer, second DoT DPS and his class is kinda a mix-between... They usually win against noobs though because even though being a mage, Adam runs into the middle of an area, activates self-defense buffs and dot heals and noobs focus every abilities on him instead of waiting and hunting for Rowan, so Rowan kicks in and does his assasin combos. Good DPSers still melt him down as he's not a proper tank but some other tanky-dpsers cannot do enough damage while Rowan fricking outpaces them.. When they meet another Rouge and some pure dps mage, they always lose because Adam doesn't have enough dps or heals to keep up with that other guy and is always last on the DPS chart. The worst is that Rowan gets a dagger throw that with a perk applies all the sneak damage bonuses. Adam has one basic spell that does some damage and apply a DoT and a debuff.. The dagger does more visible damage and when they choose someone with low hp, Rowan's daggers just shuts down someone when Adam was happy to finally utilise his range and kill off that guy.
So, he decides to change classes to DPS to do more damage because Rowan is a bit squishy to really heal him up quick enough with the healer... So now, he loses the "Shroud of the Nature" spell.. and gains "Shroud of the Thorns".. but it's actually just some tiny, brown glow. He now stands totally revealed with his UGLY end-game robe but a brown glow even worsens it and makes him look like some bandit. Shroud also effect pets so his now best pet, a fox that applies good bleed and crits, looks like some regular basic lvl 1 mob with barely noticable brown glow instead of that awesome aura of nature that the other two sub-classes have.
So now, he.. gets good damage over time DPS. It's cool because he can quickly pop them and then start run and heal with his basic non-buffed heal spell that this subclass has. It's also good against kiters because they can't run from a DoT damage and if he has time, he can stack the basic dot to a high degree.. however.. these DoTs dont have any visual effects. He casts some basic spell animation and its just the text of the damage popping on his enemy XD One dot "Nature's Wrath" does a small leaves visual copy-pasted from the shroud when activated on the enemy but it quickly fades and it's the same dot over again.. So he turns out to be some basic mage that look like a lvl 15 scrub.. However, when he enters the dungeon, he does good DPS only on bosses and on these easier grindier dungeons he doesn't have much fun because his party kill mobs too quickly for the DoT damage to fully utilise it's potential.. so he switches to.... a healer for the dungeons.. He's happy again to have all these cool nature-based things but it doesn't work best in PvP so instead of that "one perfect build". For solo questing, on harder content his DPS gets often damage so quickly that he has to wait and heal for 1 min every two groups of mobs. The between-subclass looks perfect for solo'ing so he switches for it for questing.. However, then he encounters a lot of easy quick-kill quests and this subclass is doing damage much slower than the other sub.... In the battleground, he starts doing good DoT dps but then gets focused and killed 5 times in a row.. He wishes "damn, too bad I didn't pick the other sub-class".. He later re-enters as the dps/healer/utility/defensive but it turns out all of his team is these warriors, paladins, battleclerics and there's noone with that actually high soaky damage and they mostly run around for 5 minutes and try to kill someone who is being healed while enemy DPS'es finnaly burst them down... He decides to enter the battleground as a full healer to really save people but half of the time, the match is so easy he doesn't even have anyone to heal and it's spawn camping or it's vice-versa, it doesn't save much friendlies because they get killed so easily.. An actually balanced match with long fights and similar dmg on both sides happens very rare but at least it gives him good opportunity to do some nice heals xD
Oh, and Rowan gets invisibility while sneaking when Adam's invisible spell does literally nothing and doesn't work on anyone except the basic white mobs in outside areas because he didn't invest in stealth... aaand, turns out Rowan has this cool "cloak of the shadows" spell every for 20s every 30s that gives him 15% bonus evansion and he's enveloped in a really cool looking shadow cloak and he has dash-in/dash-out skill that does that cloak animation around him for a moment while doing these jumps. Adam gets "Nature's charge", every one minute he can dash forward with some damage but it's just without any animation, just running forwrard quickly and it looks like that brown glow from Shroud of the Thorns extends to a bigger AoE around him/spell's AoE.. Oh, by the wait, "Rowan, wait, I'm doing a quick town teleport, no waaait I need to quickly change classes, will be 5 min... 15 minutes later: I needed to change some gear too, Rowan are you here? Oh, I didnt see the message that you went "AFK for 5 minutes".. 30 mins later - Oh you need to go, ok see you tommorow.. xD
After some time, they buff that middle-mix-up subclass but it's pretty minor and just slightly boost dmg of two unique for this subclass spells from the skill-tree but increases mana cost for some DoT heal and Adam is even more confused which class he should play, his first pick with a buff or keep being the DoT dpser and healer.. XD
These effects are incredible!! Always glad the Patreon pays off so well for you guys :D
Little does Rowan know, he's 3 levels from unlocking the Poison mechanic and the Assassin's Arsenal
The difference between a launch day class and a DLC class.
Love the irony of Rowan getting exactly the kinds of quests he made fun of Adam for xD
That was a nice twist. I kind of assumed they'd go for the trope that Assassin classes are typically just backstab/critical builds that are super-weak at direct combat in addition to being squishy. Bonus points for just giving him a marginal stealth bonus instead of the expected invisibility, quickstep, or shadow-walking. xD
Xd
I've actually played games like this. Where they had classes that, on the surface, seemed incredibly prosaic and mundane, and usually they were the absolute hardest classes to level up/max out. However, once maxed out, they were absolute monsters.
Which games? I was looking for something to play like this.
@@willbrewer4939 Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Jade Dynasty, and TERA all come to mind. I'm sure I could remember more.
@@thalastianjorus Thanks! Appreciate it!
They meet later on the max lvl. Adam already progressed faster because he had much more fun and is end-game grinding the best gear out there, special perks that give 1% more skill and 5 hp etc. Rowan hits max lvl 1 month later, all his skills were basically like "Stab 1" that's just a standard animation of an attack with a dagger "Stab 2" that has a red glow to it but very tiny and barely visible and is the same animation, +2 damage on sneak attack. At the max lvl, he does a first entry quest that give a starting dagger, it's not like the most grindy weapons out there but it's much better than greens and blues you find in the dungeons so he doesn't have to grind for a weapon right now. They enter a 2v2 arena to finally have some fun together..
Turns out Adam is doing something akin to giggling someone with a brush. For a full combo he need to cast a lot spells, he always gets stunned, cancelled, enemy run away before he can finish it and first de-buffs run to follow with DMG expire.. in PvE, mobs often die in a party before he can finish the combo. Rowan just enters first arena and turns out he gets a huge, visible damage that sometimes drop 20 or more of enemy health bar. He stacked a lot of these sneak damage bonuses so he attacks from the back, target the enemy with Stab 1 and follow-up with a thick, quarantted crit from Stab 2. Not only that, but near the end he unlocked "Dance of blades" which give him a big attack speed boost so his usual pretty boring animation when sped-up, looks kinda dope like in anime. Herbalist knows for his heals, his best heals are mostly over time so if he gets focused, most of the time they don't outpace the enemy's damage and in the end stats, his healing done isn't that much. He can heal well but he needs to hide and wait for a bit but if he does it, they argue that Adam escaped and was doing nothing while they were killing Rowan. There are 3 herbalist sub-clases - one is healer, second DoT DPS and his class is kinda a mix-between... They usually win against noobs though because even though being a mage, Adam runs into the middle of an area, activates self-defense buffs and dot heals and noobs focus every abilities on him instead of waiting and hunting for Rowan, so Rowan kicks in and does his assasin combos. Good DPSers still melt him down as he's not a proper tank but some other tanky-dpsers cannot do enough damage while Rowan fricking outpaces them.. When they meet another Rouge and some pure dps mage, they always lose because Adam doesn't have enough dps or heals to keep up with that other guy and is always last on the DPS chart. The worst is that Rowan gets a dagger throw that with a perk applies all the sneak damage bonuses. Adam has one basic spell that does some damage and apply a DoT and a debuff.. The dagger does more visible damage and when they choose someone with low hp, Rowan's daggers just shuts down someone when Adam was happy to finally utilise his range and kill off that guy.
So, he decides to change classes to DPS to do more damage because Rowan is a bit squishy to really heal him up quick enough with the healer... So now, he loses the "Shroud of the Nature" spell.. and gains "Shroud of the Thorns".. but it's actually just some tiny, brown glow. He now stands totally revealed with his UGLY end-game robe but a brown glow even worsens it and makes him look like some bandit. Shroud also effect pets so his now best pet, a fox that applies good bleed and crits, looks like some regular basic lvl 1 mob with barely noticable brown glow instead of that awesome aura of nature that the other two sub-classes have.
So now, he.. gets good damage over time DPS. It's cool because he can quickly pop them and then start run and heal with his basic non-buffed heal spell that this subclass has. It's also good against kiters because they can't run from a DoT damage and if he has time, he can stack the basic dot to a high degree.. however.. these DoTs dont have any visual effects. He casts some basic spell animation and its just the text of the damage popping on his enemy XD One dot "Nature's Wrath" does a small leaves visual copy-pasted from the shroud when activated on the enemy but it quickly fades and it's the same dot over again.. So he turns out to be some basic mage that look like a lvl 15 scrub.. However, when he enters the dungeon, he does good DPS only on bosses and on these easier grindier dungeons he doesn't have much fun because his party kill mobs too quickly for the DoT damage to fully utilise it's potential.. so he switches to.... a healer for the dungeons.. He's happy again to have all these cool nature-based things but it doesn't work best in PvP so instead of that "one perfect build". For solo questing, on harder content his DPS gets often damage so quickly that he has to wait and heal for 1 min every two groups of mobs. The between-subclass looks perfect for solo'ing so he switches for it for questing.. However, then he encounters a lot of easy quick-kill quests and this subclass is doing damage much slower than the other sub.... In the battleground, he starts doing good DoT dps but then gets focused and killed 5 times in a row.. He wishes "damn, too bad I didn't pick the other sub-class".. He later re-enters as the dps/healer/utility/defensive but it turns out all of his team is these warriors, paladins, battleclerics and there's noone with that actually high soaky damage and they mostly run around for 5 minutes and try to kill someone who is being healed while enemy DPS'es finnaly burst them down... He decides to enter the battleground as a full healer to really save people but half of the time, the match is so easy he doesn't even have anyone to heal and it's spawn camping or it's vice-versa, it doesn't save much friendlies because they get killed so easily.. An actually balanced match with long fights and similar dmg on both sides happens very rare but at least it gives him good opportunity to do some nice heals xD
Oh, and Rowan gets invisibility while sneaking when Adam's invisible spell does literally nothing and doesn't work on anyone except the basic white mobs in outside areas because he didn't invest in stealth... aaand, turns out Rowan has this cool "cloak of the shadows" spell every for 20s every 30s that gives him 15% bonus evansion and he's enveloped in a really cool looking shadow cloak and he has dash-in/dash-out skill that does that cloak animation around him for a moment while doing these jumps. Adam gets "Nature's charge", every one minute he can dash forward with some damage but it's just without any animation, just running forwrard quickly and it looks like that brown glow from Shroud of the Thorns extends to a bigger AoE around him/spell's AoE.. Oh, by the wait, "Rowan, wait, I'm doing a quick town teleport, no waaait I need to quickly change classes, will be 5 min... 15 minutes later: I needed to change some gear too, Rowan are you here? Oh, I didnt see the message that you went "AFK for 5 minutes".. 30 mins later - Oh you need to go, ok see you tommorow.. xD
After some time, they buff that middle-mix-up subclass but it's pretty minor and just slightly boost dmg of two unique for this subclass spells from the skill-tree but increases mana cost for some DoT heal and Adam is even more confused which class he should play, his first pick with a buff or keep being the DoT dpser and healer.. XD
I just can't help but love every time hearing Rowan say "shade away"
I'm curious if Rowan actually finished his starting quests, or just ran around grinding on weak enemies while going "Hah, I'm an Assassin, look at how badass I am." and is just now finishing up the tedious starting questlines, while Adam churned through his starter quests to see the cooler questlines.
Seems to be what Rowan would do
I'd say that's fair
Feels like it yea. Equal gear would probably have shadowy whisps coming from it and give him invisibility on a cooldown or something. Maybe even a poison enchant skill where he could make his weapons glow in some poisonous color.
The thing about classes like Warrior or Assassin is that the abilities are usually pretty straightforward (strength, durability, stealth etc). Esoteric classes like herbalist or alchemist give the devs a chance to be a bit more creative, plus of course sometimes they just like to mess with people 😂
There's also a much higher chance they mess something up, so you suddenly have +1500% enchantment rings and such :P
I was also thinking that.
He should've mentioned his stats when Adam asked him how he's doing.
He should be having it easy on quests because he got strong stats, so it feels boring.
well adam looks all fancy and stuff but in a duel against the boring assassin he gets wrecked, because dueling is the assassin's profession, not looking cool or being useful.
@@BayWa4eva
Well, it depends on what they want to do in the game. If both of them are just having fun doing quests and role playing the story, then he really picked the wrong class.
@@versuzzero5335 That's true since Rowan at the beginning was complaining how boring the tutorial was. Then again, assassins and warriors really shines at later levels and mostly on PvE or PvP where they can one shot enemies.
As a Hufflepuff Herbologist, I can confirm. We are massively overpowered with Chinese Chomping Cabbages and Mandrakes. I spent 5 minutes killing a giant spider miniboss, spawning multiple mid level spiders to flank me, with purely the combat system, no plants. Thought I was Billy Badass. I reloaded to before the boss and used only cabbages and dodging; the fight was over in less than 15 seconds.
I love how Rowan's class is effectively what the Herbalist sounds like - picking mushrooms, ingredients, etc.
Really have to say Idk what you guys are taking lately but the visual effects have taken a massive leap forwards it's crazy. Can't wait to see what else is in store
Our VFX team is smashing it! ❤
@@VivaLaDirtLeague what do you guys use for vfx? always wanted to get into stuff like that, but I want to find a solid program.
Glad to see Adam's armor isn't just CGI. ;)
@@ethanw041 If I had to hazard a guess this was done using After Effects, DaVinci Fusion or Nuke. If you are wanting to get into VFX, Blender is a great place to start as it is free and has 3D and compositing tools.
@@coirevosika1623 that’s probably the best choice for now I’ll check those programs out thanks man
It was exactly like this with my current D&D group. Everyone wanted to play the Rogue but when the Druid started getting some higher level spells and unlocked wild shape, the complaining started 😅 “Maaaan, he’s got quite a lot of abilities, doesn’t he? All I do is stab people.”
Our ranger, who doesn't exactly understand how to be a ranger, feels the same way about my Eldarin elf warlock.
Ironically, as a warlock, I'm one of the more restricted classes, with less spells and class features that are very encounter specific.
Having a 40 ft swim speed and being able to breathe and speak under water is nice, but kind of useless when your party decides to drag you off to Avernus.
Same with my wererat curse (picked up in Dragons of Icespire Peak campaign).
Being immune to non-magical and non-silvered weapon damage is sweet.
Being in the Nine Hells, where everything has a magical weapon, completely negates it. Or, I'm assuming everything is going to have magical weapons, we literally just got there last session.
But, yeah, I think everyone feels that way about their current character class; that somebody else has a better class with more combat or roleplaying options.
I personally think they're all equally good. You just need to know the right playstyle for your class.
Your friends playing rogue, especially if there's a couple of them or even the majority of the party, can be quite deadly.
With the way sneak attack works if a bunch of rogues swarm and focus fire individual targets, they're going to make mince meat of it.
Mixing up the subclasses within the party will make it even more effective.
Arcane Trickster causing distractions, assassin hitting for huge damage, thief to make sure the coast is really clear and there's no traps, ect.
We have a six person party and now I'm thinking a full on thieves guild party might actually be fun.
I just tend to play bards. We get tons of fun abilities, AND the ability to make you known across the land as Roderick Stumblefoot, the Druid Who Gets Lost in the Forest if we feel like it. :)
Always important for players to realize every class has a role where they can excel. I may gently encourage my players to seek out their class/character's strengths while not holding their hand. For instance even with the druid wild shaping into a mouse, a great rogue is far sneakier and can plant evidence, learn crucial information, procure a quest item with little resistance, spot and disable traps, or indeed deliver a crippling blow from the shadows where everyone gawks at just how many dice are being rolled. One of my favorite moments came from a rogue. They were being dined by a vampire in the classic "Vampire invites the party over to make veiled threats, see how much they know, etc..." and the Rogue said something that caught the Vampire's attention so I had the Vampire lean in menacingly towards him since they were sitting beside each other and very calmly the Rogue goes "I want to pick his pocket." "Oh, shit... uh... okay." "27."
I've rarely had issues with people hating their classes. I always encourage them to experiment and see what it is they enjoy about their character and class and explore just what it can do.
That's why you play Not the End and just improvvise new abilities for your character 🤣
They must play it wrong then, Rogue is badass class they got lockpicking; trap sensor; disguise and sense disguise... They pretty must need to find out what is their class hidden perk not focus on just skills.
Props to Adam for not rubbing it in Rowan's face. I know it's a skit and all, but hard respect.
Being able to disguise yourself would be a good skill for an assassin, along with the ability to put on fake ID names while disguised (with only allies being able to see your true ID tag), lockpicking, acrobatics, alternative navigation, etc.
I know this feeling all too well. It's why I like to try and do my research first on classes in games. Failing that I just default to classes that work similar to classes in other games I've played
When did these sickened developers try and sneak chores into a gamer's gameplay loop, AND when will their punishment for doing so come?
Well. The classes I want to be like bad ass fighters I can never use since my reflexes are crap. So I usually just play a mage and I tend to run away most of time until I can shoot from a safe distance.😀
Wow that's so boring. I always play blind, I do what I want. Rowan and Adam did what they wanted except Rowan got insecure.
@@nairocamilo you mean ever since the beginning of RPGs? I mean you had the mining and fishing skills in WoW
try ff xiv you can switch clas anytime
Haha the irony of the assassin doing everything he was laughing about earlier. Good stuff as always team, keep itup!
Down to the "pick up 10 yellow flowers"
I am so glad I found your channel years ago. This is one of the things that kept me entertained during the pandemic.
That "bwhhh" at 0:18 is my spirit animal.
It's possible Rowan just didn't unlock cool unique assassin gear because he thought gathering quests were beneath him. He probably spent most of his time getting the base attacks and then leveling. Like collecting the flowers seems like it should have been completed already.
that makes sense actually
Dude doesn't even have shade away yet. Even though every rogue/assassin we've seen does.
@@hellborne7995 what do you mean, he has that sick robe
@@mrfamer3752 That's like Adept's Robes. Just wait until Master.
All of that and pvp 😂
i can't get over how kind adam was being about rowan's crap class lol great vid!
My favourite small detail is how Adams char is one level *lower* than Rowan's. I see youuu
I like to think that Rowan just rushed thru the main story while Adam did the sidequests.
Sidequests is usually where the cool stuff are.
I only just now caught that the assassin quests just turned into gardening.
I love everything about this, Adam's so nice and supportive and I am glad his class ended up being awesome. Also pfffhahaha the fact Rowan ended up picking plants XD Also, Adam's outfit looks AMAZING both with and without the special effects
*When your expectations about a potential stealth archer build get subverted*
Fellas definitely aren't playing Skyrim
Honestly the only game I've ever played where stealth archer was actually viable was Skyrim, and it was one of the best gaming experiences of my life because of it lol. Also shoutout to Far Cry 3/4 and particularly Primal with bow as primary
stealth builds are usually more general than pratical, they can work for everything but a jack of all traits ends up not mastering any
That's why I choose always the tank archetype class, you know what you're getting 100% of the time, you always have your quests straight.
I tough that you would be more dakka boy :D
@@Seoz nah I prefer gud ol' choppa, it cuts dem umies gud enuff.
@One of the Boyz dakka is da true path for da Boyz
Not always. i had to play through Too Human to completion for a project, and i was going to be solo-so i picked the tanky bruiser type class. Supposedly works good as a team tank, but also has decent damage too (like many other games do for their tanks) per the game's description.
Nope. It was the absolute worst class, it's tanking capabilities were mediocre, and damage was one of the lowest in game. But didn't learn until i was too far in to restart the project. Best bet is just do some online research first, because not all games treat classes the same way :(
And those quests are:
Protect innocent
Guide follower through perilous lands
Survive time limit and onslaught of enemies
Later on, Rowan restarts as a herbalist right after it's been nerfed while Adam restarts as an assassin after it has gotten a complete rework with awesome quests.
Early access vs official release 😂😂😂
I like the irony of the assassin quest basically is him doing herbalist type stuff picking flowers and mushrooms
Ah yes the Herbalist, I myself main the Water Bearer class. I thought I made a bad choice until I gained the "Breath of Water" perk that let me access restricted undersea kingdoms. There I was able to upgrade my Water Pot to the Djinn Urn and, well you guys know how awesome it gets from there.
Have you unlocked the Deluge feature on your Urn, yet?
There's nothing more satisfying than washing your enemy away with a tidal wave. Especially if you collected that tidal wave yourself.
Spoilers- go the Shores of Trip of Leigh and use the scream emote to scream at the ocean. Immediately pull out your Urn and hold it up to the ocean as the ocean roars back at you. When the wave comes in strafe from left to right to catch the wave as it curls and and breaks on the beach.
It will always start breaking from the left side.
I personally went for the brick layer class. Was pretty challenging to level up at first but I soon unlocked the iron caves restricted area, where the steam dwarves live. A smith made me a kickass steampunk armor set and 2-handed hammer, and I will soon unlock "THE FOTRESS" whatever that is.Sounds like it'll be cool.
Side note: I just realized there's way too many other world/fantasy manga that use this trope. "MC has a class that clearly weak or trash, but he unlocks a secret for that class and becomes the most powerful ever!" :P
can someone tell me what game you all talking about
@@noobbuddycantdragmedown2607 Skycraft
So, Rowan ended up being a gardener, picking herbs 😂
Stealthily murdering innocent flowers and stealing their corpses ☠👀🥷🌻🔪
@@Seelenschmiede a grassassin?
Lol. Assassins keeping low profile so they don't have flashy quests...
It just occurred to me that Sam Gamgee in _Lord of the Rings_ is Frodo's gardener. So if he had a class, he'd be a herbalist!
@@jamesgravil9162 he was the most chilled of the bunch
That 10 flowers quest was a big plot twist lmao🤣🤣
I remember the first time i ever felt class regret was when i played wow classic for the first time back in 2019. I was an arms warrior around lvl 24, and there was a lvl 25 druid who was apart of our group and I think what made me jealous the most was her versatility, one minute she was a healer, next She was a tank, and then a DPS.
man, that 'off-black' thing is so spot on. they always save the real black colors for the cash shop.
I was thinking the same thing. Those bastards lol
Facts, either that or it’s INSANELY hard to unlock like in Destiny 1.
You can never go wrong on a support class.
Unless anything you make has been nerfed by a recent numbers pushdown a la WoW.
Then you end up with , in the case of alchemy, potions delivering the incorrect HP. ex. potion level 3(which you can't make until level 10) gives 180 HP, potion level 10 used to give 360 HP, but now only gives 68. um...what? Blizzard really screwed up.
@@hugehappygrin Blizzard doesn't care about low levels, they never did.
@@hugehappygrin that sucks. :(
Especially financial support
Especially healer done right nothing can kill you
One of your best videos so far! I love the green glowing herbalist robe.
Also, I sympathise with the feeling. For a long time I felt like I chose the wrong class when I was playing wow but after I got raiding gear, I was much stronger and content with my class.
Then Rowan began a new game as Baelin, the fisherman.
Mornin’! Nice day for fishing ain’t it? Hu ha!
Well it happened to all of us at some point I think, choosing the wrong character class, wrong skill and so on. I found this channel right before the new year and its epic, already watched like half the vids :))
Exciting Christmas and new year holiday of binging VLDL videos for you 😍
the big fun is to manage to do it with suboptimal picks/builds. after all, a game is just about fun and certainly not about optimal builds (unless it's eSports)
i like playing off builds a lot, be creative, find a style that fits you, feels so much better than meta.
you can always choose the fastest car in a racing game but driving alone in front is hella boring, give yourself a challenge.
I never choose the wrong class - I choose EVERY class.
50% of my playtime in any RPG always ends up being replaying the prologue, just to see what the other classes are like. And 25% is just me tinkering at the character creation screen.
Check out their D&D channel too!
Be sure to watch "Baelin's Route".
Honestly my favorite part is Rowan is basically collecting ingredients where as in the beginning he was making fun of it
Herbalist was clearly added later to the game. Has to be shiny to draw players. While Assasin is a standard class and therefore has standard quests and gear.
We need part 2 of this ASAP!! Its amazing
I think their Vampire video is a sequel to his
Alzudam being the supportive friend that he is and not just throwing shade.
He Became Strong like Althea in The Stronger Florist weeb toon. they have same class.
@@darellmawitjere *laughs in Bofuri*
@@emwhaibee It was more relate to
The Strongers Florist because dude was Friend with Elf to know the Elves was very Hostile race in this case. you can read the first 3 chapter you will find it 😂. also dude like Lord Tinlight Predecesor of Altea/Hwang Jaeho.
Adam looked awesome. The effects guys are just brilliant. And it's rare to see Rowan rendered almost speechless 🤣
assassin sounds so cool at first till you realize how much cooler herbalist is in the game after you pick like 10 flowers and such🤣
LMAO! I was NOT expecting that twist, although, I probably SHOULD have seen that coming from you guys. Love your vids! Keep on kicking ass.
I like how Adam can never say anything mean . he sounds like a great friend
That's just the character he's playing. Actually he is mean.
What about Baradun?
Yall need to get a game made based on this universe
Yes!
The only problem is everyone who's seen these videos will already know everything about the game and how to speed through it.
@@ShadowDemon_4 Tbf there does seem to be some plot gaps
yeah, no thanks. I feel like it'd just be a cheap cash grab mobile game
With Britt NPC?
Nah, the skill tree is bs
The green magic effects are amazing! Whoever dose the effects are doing a damn good job!
I feel this playing swtor. I was playing smuggler and chose gunslinger. Then I ended up hating the spec until 7.0 dropped and I switched my smuggler to Powertech lmao
3:14 I'm gonna steal that to get out of awkward social interactions.
"Oh, the forest is calling me." 🧙
Before the twist: "I would totally pick herbalist. Collecting flowers and herbs is great in games because it really makes you look around your environment!"
After the twist: "I would have made the right decision."
Also, Adam being super nice at the end when he could have been a prick is so Adam.
There's a greater than 0% chance that I would have taken herbalist just because I actually liked just wandering around aimlessly collecting stuff when I played MMOs. Then again, there's a greater than 0% chance I would have taken assassin just for the promise of quests that were more puzzle-and-stealth based.
I had the same thought XD I would have picked herbalist and be very glad I did.
I jump at the chance to have gathering or crafting professions available as an actual class choice, but sadly that's virtually never an option.
I mean Assassin or not I just try and avoid all enemy instances because the MMORPG or RPG developers just throw enemies at you and it's just incredibly annoying.
That reasoning is fine until you realise that in this game, if you want to gather flowers and herbs, you'd actually want to pick assassin. So picking herbalist for the reasons described could actually end up in disappointment..
Brilliant piece of writing and acting as always
I thought when the assassin came back he would see a whole Eco Lab with Carnivorous Plants as Guards but this still works!
I’m just a simple man.
I see a VLDL upload, I click.
Btw, Adam’s costume is how I want my character to look like in every mmorpg I play. A mythical forest druid-like creature ❤️
you are a simple man if you are using a meme that old... grandpa
@@thomgizziz oopsie, looks like someone's jealous because my comment got a heart from VLDL. You can sleep now kid.
Absolutely! Even without the special effects, I'd love to have that outfit.
Love how the Herbalist is doing cool quests with forest spirits and ancient elves, and the assassin is picking flowers lol.
The effects on the herbalist armor and tattoo looked really cool! Good stuff, nicely done!
Been watching you guys for a few years and WOW you guys have come so far
Poor Rowan... all of a sudden him killing NPCs makes sense!
He's just taking his rage out from his class choice regret!