Full Review: Latin VFR A330-900 Released - Better Than Freeware A330 From Headwind? | for MSFS 2020
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Latin VFR have released their A330-900N for MSFS, part of their next phase or releases with their A340 coming out soon. The PC players of MSFS have already got an amazing freeware A330N from the Headwind team - So what does this commercial payware aircraft have that the freeware doesnt? In this video we take a detailed look and full review to see, is it worth the purchase?
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The Horizon mod for the LVFR A321/A319 was the only thing that made those aircraft bearable for me because of LVFR using the default ASOBO systems for a lot of the core pieces of the aircraft. I'll wait for something like that until I buy it
The mod is bugged anyway
Sadly LVFR has said that they will not permit mods like the Horizon mod for this aircraft and therefore Horizon is ending development of the mods for their narrowbody Airbus lineup as well and will not be creating a mod for this plane.
@@user-gf8qs1dg3w I said this before but... When Fenix comes out with their A319 I'll likely switch over to that and leave LVFR behind permanently. so far LVFR is just... They're becoming Captain Scam levels of arrogant. :T
@@user-gf8qs1dg3wthey backtracked that statement. they wanted it to come off like “hey you won’t need it”
Wow, those cockpit textures! I thought the video hadn't properly rendered or my UA-cam had defaulted to a low resolution.
If you actually have the aircraft, and see it in person, the cockpit textures are not bad. I think they’re better than the Headwind mod. I can’t say anything about the rest of the aircraft… I couldn’t even get it in the air last night. Half of the EFB is non functional for me.
Thanks you for this review and opinion..I'm sticking with the Headwind A339neo, pleasure to fly and always evolving with new features
Thanks Gavin for such a quick review ! It’s a No from me ! The Headwind for Free is amazing in my opinion ! So I’ll stick with that for now 👍🙏🏻👨✈️✈️
Im on xbox and im a really big fan of the a330 should i buy it?
@@SwissCheeseFliesPlanes Hi, Just looked at the comments and noticed it is 6 months old. I am on Series X too, and I am still flying the A320 neo (default). Mainly because the others have so many problems. I too looked at this aircraft but if it has problems then the price is too much.
Did you buy it in the end? If so, is it worth getting?
@@TheDiceman56 hello, nice that i get a comment after 6 month. I bought it, but i cant tell if its worth it or not. The aircraft comes with so many liveries and the flight expirience is nice, but sometimes the electronics are glitched. The Ipad had an update and it made it complicated
@@TheDiceman56i passed by the standard a320neo on the game from the other one by lvfr, that is not perfect, but it is flyable unlike the standard Asobo one which doesn't even have the on-board tablet for the flight plan and services. the cockpit of the lvfr a320 is certainly better even if not the best, for the rest of the fuselage the thing is nice that the passengers and hostesses are also quite well done but certain things the plane gets lost in some details which are a little awkward and definitely fixable which would improve it a lot and I hope they will do it with an update. I saw that Asobo made a new A320, finally decent with an excellent cockpit
Thanks for your review, knowledgeable and honest as usual.
The "Send to CDU" prompt takes a while to populate all the required boxes. The FPLN was showing LIRF dir KJFK because you filled in the from/to box before the EFB could fill it.
As for the throttle calibration, LVFR said on facebook that the CRJ profile for Thrustmaster would work for this aircraft.
THIS IS THE ONE I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR! I’ve watched a couple of reviews so far, but this will either send it for me, or I’ll let it be.
Thanks for this Gav. As I am still new to MSFS from P3D I did not know about the Headwind A330 so thanks for that!!! The problem for me is that MSFS 2020 is so good, it demands quality scenery/aircraft to be of a near study level. That may come at a price but will be worth it. Sadly, it seems the LATVFR model does not meet the necessary standard we are used to.
Regarding the thrust levers calibration, in MSFS CONTROL options page, set up to use the default one, apply and save. Worked for me.
21:43 best moment in the video, a dose of realism
Good video captain thank you for sharing this, I was just about to purchase it, so holding back for now.
These guys are becoming the CS of MSFS! 😂
The transfer of the FPL via the tablet to the MCDU takes a while. They showed in a tutorial video how it works and that it takes a few seconds or minutes when the route is very long. You should not touch the MCDU during the import phase. I dont know why but that is how they explained it. Regarding the flightplan management it is the basic MSFS stuff sadly. But it works fine with the default flightplanner and all integrated functions.
Here’s what you have to do to get the flightplan in the MCDU:
ua-cam.com/video/QkGd5go3jSI/v-deo.htmlsi=kh7VIOU3Q9FKOmwg
Check the description, there’s 9 bulletpoints in there, it’s the 2nd!
what a joke
I have this aircraft and so far I am enjoying it! What Ive learned from putting in the flightplan is if you’re on the init page and press the copy to CDU button on the tablet, the plane has put in the flightplan, but it didn’t updated the init page to show that it did. I had to go to the flightplan page and back to the init for it to update
enjoy your incidental music in the FMS portion. Still think they should just send you the pre-release plane for final tweaking before release. Cheers!
Just letting one know the FMS works just fine it’s just you have to hit the button and the wait for a little and it will automatically load everything and uncertain when done
Reasonably new to your channel - thanks for doing this video. I'm hovering over the "buy" button but still a little unsure. Going to wait to see what the Horizon 789 looks like. We desperately need a good long hauler!
A310 is a brilliant long hauler and with the updates the 747 and 787 are decent enough now
Headwind's is an amazing plane! Once they update their cockpit and fix some bugs, it'll be amazing!
That's absolutely great but it's still based on the asobo a320 which is not very good
Except it's not... The cockpit has been re-done...
@@codys4449 im pretty sure theyre talking about the systems... yknow the most important part
@@yeahfelix Yeah that looks straight out of the default one. It's got that really ugly looking PFD and the rest of the displays have the terrible default MSFS font that looks nothing like the real thing
Nope way too overpriced
I wonder (even though unsupported) a dev like Horizonsim or Headwind would make a nice work on. I know it would compete against their free addon, but at least something would be flyable.
Thanks for the review. The A319 and A21N from LVFR are great addons with the FBW mods. This aircraft may need the same level of work. For now, I'll stay with HW A330 NEO.
I wonder if any updates will take the average Marketplace MS approval time of 3 months.If so it could a very long time to get a fully updated aircraft.
You don't click the insert button. After you click send to mcdu. When it's don't sending it will insert and turn green on its on
Just give it time to load the flight plan. Only thing you will have to enter is the departure and arrival
No buy for me. Not up to my standards. I just wait for headwind to release the new cockpit.
Im currently having the same issue with the LVFR A321Neo where the Thrustmaster can’t be calibrated so in the CL setting the aircraft throttles are right outside the gate and I get a LVR ASYM flashing the entire flight 😑
It’s takes a couple of minutes for it the load in the box and don’t hit insert
I bought it, took a flight from eham to dubai and I'm apparently satisfied, it exceeded my expectations knowing that it wouldn't be a top of the line product. I hope there will be future updates. Everything worked as promised, I hope the promised updates will also happen.
I also have pmdg and there is no news of updates.
Waiting for pmdg 777.
wher can it be bought?
marketplace@@klausalbert9531
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The 777 pmdg and FBW A380 are both very exciting aircraft to look forward to. Cannot wait
A great video, I really enjoy flying the Headwind A330 and nothing you mentioned in this video has convinced me to change to the LVFR version
yeah except the A320 interior on the HW A339n.........🥱
Look closely at the Cabin, it looks like that of a Boeing 777. It should match with that on an Airbus A330-900 Cabin
Maybe it if was half price I would consider this!
Can you help me with a problem I have with the latinvfr a330-900 when I want to access the tablet the screen goes blank
Do the fire test work later on when it’s updated or call signs ?
I do not use the EFB - just download a flightplan in the usual way. When I start from cold using CTRL-E shortcut the PFD and NAV display remain in standby mode i.e how they look at 8:40 in the above video. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong and how to put it right so they look like they do at 15:10 in the video? Huge thanks in advance for any help.
Nice video, thank you but I think I will stick to Fenix A320 and FBW A320nx. Aerosoft A330 where are you guys? Please release it the product.
12:22 Gavster, you have to wait! When you sent it to the MCDU, it will download the flightplan but it’ll take some minutes. Don’t press insert either cause it will f up the flightplan.
Wait, let it populate and when all the FP pages are green and the distance to your destination airport syncs up with the milage you have in your flightplan, you’re good to go.
They mentioned this in their tutorial series 2 days ago.
Here’s what you have to do to get the flightplan in the MCDU:
ua-cam.com/video/QkGd5go3jSI/v-deo.htmlsi=kh7VIOU3Q9FKOmwg
Check the description, there’s 9 bulletpoints in there, it’s the 2nd!
what a joke
The headwind A330 has issues with the throttle control and delayed turning. Which must be fixed but i dont think they fixed it yet
Compatible with auto rudder assistance option?
yes the nose wheel of a330 take a while for touch down
For the TCA quadrant. Set the profile to “Default” and change sensitivity for the Both the axes to 89% and that should work bro!
Basically, 30+ euro for an unfinished aircraft with low-res cockpit textures, lots of basic controls missing like APU & Engines fire tests, a non-functional flight plan import process. Well, I'd say that's a big NO for now 🙂. Besides, Gavin, nice touch to fly with the EI-HJN. I've flown on it coming back from KJFK to LIRF on august 😀and it's a really nice, brand new A339!
My Cabin doesn't work so I can't walk in it using alt + arrow keys. How I fix it? (Speaking Latin VFR a330-900neo)
Toy, that is what Xbox is for at the end of the day. No ultra realistic simulations off aircraft
For me these planes are great they do everything they are supposed to the only gripe is Navigraph flight plan does not show but the charts do.
They just don’t. The MCDU is literally a stock assobo system, flight model is pitiful, it doesn’t display any of the correct modes on the PFD.
If they update it and get it somewhat decent, I might consider the A340 once it comes out.
Wouldn’t touch any plane from LVFR with a 50ft pole
@@joshuam20 Well.. yeah. Only because of the A340 but you are right.
For the throttle control, I'm using the Thrustmaster TCA Airbus. And I find that it doesn't work with linear sensitivity the same way Headwind does. So I duplicated to a new profile and reset the sensitivity curve to the default Asobo one. And that helps aligning the detents correctly.
sorry, just replying here to save this as I also own a thrustmaster tca airbus and am considering buying this
How do you walk through the cabin when loaded in? i can’t figure it out?
Great review, I'll stick with the free A330 I think
This is something i just noticed, why does it say A319 instead of A330 on the tablet at 1:51
Had to watch this to get your opinion. Bought it last night (to my chagrin). I had a big smile when you mentioned not being able to find a place/option to calibrate your TM Airbus Throttle. I have been writing comments on that very issue at various places (LVFR Forum, UA-cam, MSFS Forum). Some offered suggestions, but, sadly, none worked. Since that is a critical item for me, I have uninstalled this plane and (being a PC user), will stick with the much better Headwind.
I am disappointed as I hoped LVFR would add the calibration option to this offering since it would indicate the coming A340 would also have it. I don't expect that will happen now. Not sure how I would ever fly the A340 without calibrated throttles. I am not keen to use an X-Box controller on my PC to fly these airplanes. Seems like that is their intent. If not for the Horizon mods, the other LVFR Airbus models (A318, A319, etc) would also be useless to me.
Too bad LVFR is not allowing a mod for the A330 since it badly needs one if it is going to be useful to PC pilots. Nice having all the liveries, but they should have spent more time on the important things rather than making the beautiful "eye-candy". 😒
why didn't you wait for a review before buying it?
@@Tuskin38 'Cause I'm stupid. Thanks for the reminder.
Even after the update, the aircraft does not turn on the ground and the sounds of the engines, especially when they start up, are very low.
I just hope they keep updating it
the nose gear being half in the ground bothers me and the main gear animation not angling the same as the real one also bothers me as well as the touch down animation... as someone who is beta testing the aerosoft one... I would hands down say to wait for the aerosoft one or use the headwind for the time being...Not because im trying to sell it but because I genuinely think it might be a better option when its out... only thing this one has over the headwind for now in my personal opinion is the cockpit model looks like an a330 and theres a cabin and the external model has dirt texturing to look used... thats about it... I'm interested in their a340-300 to see how that turns out... havent seen a good -300 ever since blackbox came out with their attempt at one on fsx/p3d
Here’s what you have to do to get the flightplan in the MCDU:
ua-cam.com/video/QkGd5go3jSI/v-deo.htmlsi=kh7VIOU3Q9FKOmwg
Check the description, there’s 9 bulletpoints in there, it’s the 2nd!
Nope. Sticking exclusively with the Fenix. Id rather pay more for study level rather than this. Is a shame as its such a nice aircraft to have in the sim. I think the bar has been firmly set by FBW and Fenix and hopefully we will see more like them. Thanks for the video dude
This is really $10 plane at most.
@pm110978 agreed mate
@@whatasaverl6456 yep wait for Aerosoft A330 and in the meantime we have the Headwind A330 which is free 👍
Very nice review. I think that this is mostly angled towards Xbox players, rather than PC players, obviously, but they seem to have fallen short yet again. Maybe another Horizon Sim Mod is required? Also, have you seen anything on the Horizon Sims new 787-9 preview?
Unfortunately Horizon is not going to as they also ended development for the other LVFR products
@@VetskuGaming LVFR actually said they won't support Horizon, so it's more on LVFR than them. I'm really side eyeing LVFR right now.
@@VetskuGaming That's a shame. Maybe not then
@@user-qf3nk1vm3j LVFR said the opposite if you read their later posts that day.
They specifically said the A340 (and the a330 when updated at the same time) will be VATSIM capable, so they're not aiming for just X-Box players, but in the middle.
Is this compatible with the MS World PLanner?
Whats best option for casual flights?
Simple point A to Z aircraft you cant deny. Cockpit dimensions are more accurate than what Headwind offers currently but bare in mind Headwind is also designing an entirely new cockpit(previewed very earlier this year completely unrelated to the *revamped cockpit update*) plus the more accurate a330 approach pitch behavior and FBW team integration. This has improved the aircraft a lot than what i was last year.
So it goes down to buy lvfr reason being
- unable to wait for Headwind to release the entirely new cockpit and you are unable to handle the current A320 pasteover texture headwind is using.
-wanting a get a on the go aircraft that can get u to a to z with basic vnav lnav functionality already implemented.
-FBW or Fenix/tolis like airbus simulation is too complex for the casual simmer.
As for me i would patiently wait for Headwind for the overhaul and save up for Aerosoft or something more complex payware along the way.
I think the “too complex for a casual simmer” argument is invalid for Fenix/Toliss. I mean, it’s only as complex as the real Airbus systems go - and these are as straightforward and user-friendly as it gets. Flying a Fenix point to point is almost no different in difficulty to the default A320, plus everything actually WORKS properly and it’s much more precise to handle.
@@ironlemon666 well some would complain they could not rotate the plane on take off or automatically fill in the vspeeds on the mcdu and the grouching nose down feel at final flare as being complex. Some simmers just want a plane that behaves very basic like the vanila asobo aircrafts.
Players getting ripped off again if they fall for this one. The PMDG 737-600 is like similar price and FBW A320 is far superior and free!
£30 for this low fidelity in flight model and systems just doesn't cut it anymore, sure if you want to throw money away and support more of these then fine, but the two above or even a non liner like the TBM 850 for £29.99 is far better.
Standards are far higher these days and dev's need to meet these or they are always gonna struggle in reviews when people compare them.
A shame but some far better options avail now and even better ones coming soon.
Cheers for review & content - nice👍
Unfortunately, it’s the only widebody airbus available on the Xbox. I will definitely be buying.
I get that same tablet with the A321
I think this is abysmal compared to the Headwind considering Latin VFR are going to charge at least £20 for this and the 'competitor developer' product is free and really great
I think the real-world A330 is known for keeping the nose up longer during landing, and smooth touchdowns in general.
Very much do! The A330 is known for having a high flare rate
Why does the virtual cabin look so much like the 777?
LVFR I have a problem with the a330-900 neo, the problem is when I put together the flight plan and I put fly, it puts the charging screen (that's normal) but when I turn on the batteries the screens don't turn on and that, in general, the iPad inside the a330, that is, all, all the screens in black and sometimes it takes me out of msfs.
To me it looks like they rushed this out before it was ready. That seems even more likely given the constant updates they are putting out. The Headwind will take a lot of beating.
Does it have a full cabin?
Are the livery's Included?
Would be great if it was FBW compatible.
I ❤ the Headwind.
As a console flight simmer I never can fly vatsim. So an aircraft like this would be just fine for me.
Hello and good video,I flew the A330 X-PLANE 12,A320 Fenix,A32NX flybywire and the headwing A330 and all of the are great andclimb normal and perfect but this A330 latinVFR takes forever to climb something is wrong and when I select the Payload and fuel on the ipad the zfw is different on the mcdu and If I load the simbrief flightplan automatically the zfw and fuel is different and again something is wrong with this airplane A330 LatinVFR
Wait, they don’t charge you 9.99 for a pack of 3 random liveries??
The cockpit it certianlly more accurate than the Headwind, though the Headwind team are currently making their own.
Thank you for the video as a PC user i will keep on using the headwind a330 which is great. a definitly agree with your assessement of this aircraft as well as with your final statements. best
Don't lose your money on latinvfr...
Headwind all the life.❤
Headwind like FBW not having cabin passengers is a big no for me althoug free , so i will stick with Fenix, PMDG 737, A310 and ATR. I hope LVFR will improve this plane, there is not a single GOOD NEO with passengers cabin.
Thanks for saving me $52 AUD Gav 👍
That's a shame, it certainly looks the part. I wonder why they put it out at that price point before testing some of the absolute basics? Again, it does look nice though.
Wait a second it`s pre release version or final ? " LatinVFR has committed to future free updates that will further enhance this addon, making it a dynamic and evolving product for the flight sim community. The community will certainly be paying attention to that ..." I hope and think they will make improvments and don`t think they released it to soon if it`s flyable with LNAV/VNAV simbrief integration and so on. I like it more then Headwind that is better in systems but developing it will take much more time then LVFR to study level.
They said it will be updated with more features around the same time their A340 comes out.
Not worth it. Should be freeware. I’ll stick to the headwind thanks!
But why is The Sound in The Cockpit so Loud
As much as I want an a330, I guess I will just stick with the fenix a320 until aerosoft finally releases. Whenever that may or may not be
There is always the Headwind A330-900N.
@@Easyjetsimpilot ….. Ive seen mixed reviews. I realize its free, but is it good?
@@jay-rus4437 dude, the addon is free. Take a chance and test it, c'mon. 😂
If i make a Plan for a Flight in the Msfs map do it Transfer it in the Mcdu like the asobo a320 ?
Here’s what you have to do to get the flightplan in the MCDU:
ua-cam.com/video/QkGd5go3jSI/v-deo.htmlsi=kh7VIOU3Q9FKOmwg
Check the description, there’s 9 bulletpoints in there, it’s the 2nd!😊
@@zacherius137 Yeah but i only want to plan my flight in msfs on the big map will it automaticly Transfer like the asobo 320
@@realfrezzer9245 that I don’t know. Sorry
It’s released?
160 knots is a bit fast that's probably partly why the float
I hope it gets modded into something better
That was the IAS, the actual speed was about 140kts.
£30 For a BETA or maybe even an ALPHA. For anybody who wants to fly from A to B and does not care what goes inbetween then it's fine. But it needs the assistance of Horizon (Again) to make it even enjoyable to fly, and partially realistic, but i understand LVFR and NOT going to allow Horizon near this one!
Maybe when the eventual finished game comes out it might be worth looking at, but then will they charge more for the finished game? if Not and same price, will they reimburse all the BETA testers who buy it now?
A320ceos have oans too as an option...
It’s not released to the public or am I missing something ?
Marketplace.
Is it worth it for Xbox users?
Not yet baked.. headwind for me
Regarding the landing it really seems to be that A330 takes longer for the nose gear to come down, you can check A330 landings here in youtube. The rest, it seems not really worth it. The flight deck textures are poor quality, the flight pad subpar, flight model generally questionable and even though it wasn't shown here, I really don't have much confidence that the plane can fly the RNAV/LNAV planned and calculated profile trustworthy, let alone handle any kind of exceptions or changes to it during the flight.
Very poor. I guess we’ve all been spoilt by Fenix.
incredibly spoiled
Spoilt? Fenix is the only flyable Airbus in the game
@@superjet1007 genuinely, I once tried the stock a320neo and before I even got into cockpit view and seen the 2 sets of NAV lights be on at same time I had little hopes, the cockpit as well, lord have mercy, not sure if like 20% of it is clickable 🤣 am just waiting for Fenix to release IAE version and then the A319 and A321 eventually
@@superjet1007 untrue statement
The LatinVFR A330 was never meant to be high fidelity stuff. Neither in flight model nor functionality. For what it is supposed to be, it is alright. Not 30 dollars alright, but for sure freeware alright. Nonetheless PC simmers are definitely not the target audience for this, it would be just foolish to assume it both from the developer and the customer end
No external sounds
Wow no throttle calibration, thats a deal breaker for me. All other short commings compared to the headwind aside, not being able to calibrate the throttle is unacceptable.
You know., back in the day this would not be possiible. We, as flight simmers have all been salivating for a platform and content to suit our needs...' are we there yet '. hmmm! Not quite. But damn close. I have to say though ..not for me
Hi @Easyjetsimpilot, apparently the A330 NEO specifically has a different flare law to the CEO and also the A320s. Rather than trimming forward it goes in to a more 'Direct Law' mode giving very conventional control input. So the lack of autonomous nose down assistance is about right. Seems the larger wingspan and huge Trent 7000's had a somewhat "naturalistic" effect of the flight characteristics, perhaps?!
An actual A330 NEO pilot talks about it here: ua-cam.com/video/QUr1FnP54KY/v-deo.htmlsi=U18DedyIDZgrLNuC at 18:30.
Reminds me of the old BlackBox A32X for FSX/P3D. Not good memories at all.
i bought it but i think its really expensive
I got all the top level airliners on MSFS , Xplane 12 and 11 and I bought it yesterday. I actually like this plane. So if you’re thinking about it. Get it. It’s not the A study level, but it’s fun. The cabin is beautiful.
garbage
@@budguy21 just like your opinion.
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Very nice video, but the Sim looks like a Beta and not a must-pay cockpit. 34 € it seems like a joke to me.
i agree with you its rubbish headwind all the way for me