Do Sperm Whales Fight Orca?
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- What Really happens when Orca hunt Sperm Whales?
Sources:
Orcas Target Blue Whale: www.nytimes.com/2022/01/29/sc...
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
Teeth:
ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/inver....
web.archive.org/web/201006130...
web.archive.org/web/201001151...
Too large to hunt Orca:
oceanwide-expeditions.com/to-....
Observations of Orca attacking Sperm Whales:
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/vi...
Male Sperm Whales form groups:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti....
globalnews.ca/news/10363340/o...
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
Attack in 2024:
www.sciencealert.com/sperm-wh...
www.livescience.com/animals/w...
Tests on Bulls vs Orca:
www.nature.com/articles/srep0...
Odd Nat Geo source?:
web.archive.org/web/201512221... - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
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They only hunt the young who can't dive. They don't hunt grown supermarket whales because they dive too deep.
Would like to point out that humpbacks regularly interrupt orca hunts, even if they aren't hunting another humpback.
This is thought to be protective instincts or even trauma indused as humpbacks remember being hunted as calves and took it personally.
They may not have teeth, but their sheer size is actually a weapon, even in water. Not to mention, their flippers tend to be laced with barnacles, which basically gives them brass knuckles.
There was a video on youtube about orca in the north atlantic. the orca had corralled a bait ball, but before the orca started feeding a humpback swam up from the bottom and swallowed a good chunk of the bait ball. it let the orca do the hard work, then it swooped in to steal their food.
I find that second story really interesting. Other sperm whales went out of their way to defend different pods from orcas.
A lot of animals are better people than people
@@tapioperala3010 That's a great way to put it, lol
@@tapioperala3010 You mean people won't go out of their way to help other people? Astounding ignorance.
@@charlesmartin1121 Some do, sure, but I'm seeing more and more that people don't do that. That we really are wolves to each other.
Maybe it's just Finland and where I live, but this is what I'm seeing and I call it as I see it.
I'm not sure we can attribute it to selfless sacrifice. We all have to be cautious about over personification. Ultimately, selection pressure will end up with the ones using the most effective tactics being more likely to reproduce, so it needs no more than simple automatic response. The sperm whales might not know or understand why they're doing what they're doing. They could only know the small thing that is most compelling from one moment to the next.
Could be maybe they were related. Or maybe some sort of alliance, like NATO. Or maybe "safety in numbers" works so well that it's the best strategy, for themselves personally, to join the others in defense. If the orca abort their attack on the first small pod then who's to say they won't turn their attention to YOUR small pod? Maybe all they understand is "hey, come check out this interesting thing!" and then when the second pod gets there they realize it's an orca attack, so then don't really have the option of running away.
I remember learning that Humpback whales hold their own pretty well against Orcas, their huge flippers provide them with a defensive weapon other whales don't have. In the same article it mentioned how humpback whales have been observed going out of their way just to ruin an Orca hunt.
Can you make a video about this? I'm loving these whale videos ❤
I have heard the same thing. Plus the fact Humpbacks are much more maneuverable than other large whales due to their oversized flippers.
Ive heard humpbacks are just nice dudes
I remember watching a documentary and they had video evidence of this. The Orcas were hunting a smaller whale (a pilot whale iirc) her calf. The humpback whales heard the drama and swam directly to the hunt and started attacking the orca very aggressively.
Not just the huge flippers but the barnacles that grow on them add even more offensive capability.
think the sheer size of the very large whales is actually a disadvantage against Orcas. Humpbacks can build up high speed from a very short distance while a larger whale could never hit an Orca. So swimming away is the only thing they can do and that's futile aswell.
"Defensive defecation"
Oh geez, I've done that. I feel ya whales.
That is a surprisingly effect technique used by several different animal species. Though I am not sure humans among them.
Pygmy and drawf physeter do it to
I just find the level of empathy the whales have for each other amazing. To where instead of fleeing themselves they went on to form a group that was growing in size to defend the others. It’s honestly amazing to me
A tactic used by many social species, from ants to humans.
@@charlesmartin1121 Yes. Empathy is not unique to humans or other well-recognized intelligent species.
@@p5eudo883Wasp.
it's only surprising if you underestimate the intelligence of whales, especially the sperm whale.. these animals might have the most complex language structure of any species besides humans
@@magg93 They might have even more complex language than humans.
Probably, the more experience adult bull sperm whales would, as the articles say harass orcas, most cases were probably young bulls and it's like elephants young bulls are afraid of lions but the larger and more experience bull elephants would challenge lions. Hmmm very similar to each other.
indeed, and similarly to elephants there have been a lot of cases of exceptionally large sperm whale bulls... up to 73 ft and probably around 80 tonnes... these would indeed be waaaay too strong for any killer whale.... but none of these have been proved so far, but for elephants the record for a male african elephant is at 13 tonnes, while most are "only" 6-8 tonnes!
@@roelantverhoeven371 Oh yes, I remember reading up bull sperm whales reaching 22 meters, though very rare that they reach that size cause they lived a long life so you could call them really experience bulls, how you can tell is by the battle scars not just by giant or colossal squad but other sperm whales showing how old they are, like bull elephants biggest the tusk the older and more experience they have. Real titans of the sea I tell you.
True, we know hands down a bull sperm whale will beat a ocra one on one if Orcas are afraid of bull sperm whales then this is probably base on Moby Dick
Challenge 😂 a bull elephant destroys a lion, a male sperm an Orca wouldn't even bother. Numbers come into it and that's all
@@roelantverhoeven371 73 foot Sperm Whale would be like 108 tons.
Man makes the best videos I can't get enough
That's very kind! Thank you!
@@wildworld6264Recently theres been a new species of killer whales 49 of them that have been reported hunting sperm whales off the coast if California in the open ocean and killed a full grown female sperm whale. This new species of orca are hyper aggressive compared to other species
Don’t know why but I side with the sperm whales for some reason.. not sure why 🤷🏻♂️
Me to.
cause orca fanboys are cringe
I saw a documentary where orcas fled a large pod of pilot whales. The pilot whales seemed to pursue the pod of orcas
They fear pilot whales because the pilot whales travel in very large groups. They're also very fast and aggressive when threatened. I remember seeing a group of scientists showing a pod of orcas that came within "audible" distance of them and they quickly swam away when they realized what was coming at them. It's like a black gang seeing a larger gang of Mexicans. 😂
Pilot whales are super aggressive, they don’t mess around when it comes to killer whales.
Thank you so much for translating metric into imperial on top of everything else lmao. I appreciate the size differences in metric but it's a nice extra step.
Excellent video as always! Thanks!
Another great video as always, Love to see the notification of a new wild world video, they never disappoint!
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@@wildworld6264 always ♥️
Can you imagine a pod of Full grown Bull Orcas all working together?? the damage done would be catastrophic
Females are larger and the leaders lol
The way I see it, as far as bull sperm whales go, they may have the ability to deter sperm whales, but it's a matter of is it worth it to fight them and potentially get hurt? Or is it better to go deep and group up with others for a better chance. Same with orcas. They target the females and the young because they put up less of a fight. It's all about trade offs and options on the table. Pride is not animal trait. Living to fight another day is. Great quality video as always pal.
Well said as always.
Humans are animals. Humans are prideful. Pride is an animal trait. We do not know what these whales are thinking or feeling. It is arrogant and ignorant to dismiss their ability to experience thoughts and emotions we attribute to humans.
@@p5eudo883 But who says they are not wise guardians knowing so much more than we can even imagine? They live far longer than we do and know so much about pretty much everything. BTW humans are not animals just fallen from grace and behave like animals. Just like whales, humans are guardians of the planet as well. only forgot who they truly are.
@@tyroneabital469 Yes, humans are animals. We are primates. Based on your use of "fallen from grace", I lean toward you being religious. Religions have done a remarkable job of perpetuating ignorance and idiotic ideas. One of which is the idea that humans and non-human animals are somehow isolated from each other.
Let me be clear. Humans are animals. And some book of fairy tales that claims otherwise is something anyone with respectable critical thinking skills is going to recognize as false.
I've been interested in orca since I was very young. They are truly the wolves of the sea in the same token that a lone wolf or even two or three would not be much of a match for a bull bison it seems that the orca pods that hunt sperm whale play by a lot of the same rules. Also, the defense techniques the sperm whales use could absolutely vary depending on the family group in the same way that different family groups of orca hunt different prey and use different tactics depending on geographical origin. Great video as usual.
In Cebu Philippines, We do have a Video about a juvenile Sperm whale attacking a pod of orca (rare sighting).
Great video Orcas are one animal that I am fascinated by. First on my bucket list is to see one in the wild.
Dear admin, plz make more videos about whales. There are so many claims about the size of Sperm whales, that should be a video itself. Also I hope you make another video about the second largest whale- the black whales (3 right whale species and bowhead whales), who are very underrated and underappreciated.
Orcas fear Pilot whales.
That’s because it’s a number game. It’s like a large group of hyenas chasing of a small group of lions. Humpback whales are also known to chase orcas as well.
@@aottadelsei980at least 21 pilots in a pod
I would too. I don't think whales are well-equipped for flying planes.
@@aottadelsei980That’s the same for killer whale. They travel in packs of 40. Wolves of the sea.
Deification while in rosette formation was not my first guess but seems like a very effective defensive strategy. The fact that sperm whales are carnivorous probably increases the effectiveness of the strategy exponentially.
Another case that I saw on Y/T but now I can't find it for anything; Wildlife film makers came across a 'mixed' pod of Sperm whales being harassed by Orcas; the film makers got into their zodiac inflatable and tried to get close. Long story short, the Male sperm whales formed a sort of 'skirmish line' while the rest of the pod swam ahead. The Zodiac took a position near the flank of the 'line'; The orcas were VERY agitated as the made a mock charge towards the line. They even got VERY close to the Zodiac, but before any contact was made, the Orcas veered away from the film makers. They opined that the Orcas were upset that 'humans' got mixed up in the whale fight but then realized that the humans were not actually involved, so they proceeded to ignore them.
Naturally I have no idea what happened next, except perhaps the film makers 'got the heck out of there' at the earliest opportunity.
Very interesting!
Dude! The twilight zone reference! That used to be my favorite episode! Great video otherwise as well!
Orcas are sinking boats😂
They've had enough of humans disturbing their home and food sources.
Wanderful ocean wave video clips thank you.
I've been rereading the classics lately, Moby Dick and 20k Leagues Under the Sea specifically.
There is a pretty horrific scene in chapter 12 (part 2) where Captain Nemo destroyed a pod of Cachalots just as they were attacking a pod of a more harmless species of southern whales, which ironically he would not allow Ned Land to hunt.
He then deemed the Cachalots a vicious nuisance worthy of being exterminated. The narrator goes on to describe the anatomy of the Cachalots as being an evolutionary mistake and more tadpole than fish.
Earlier in the chapter though they discuss how long whales live. It is mentioned that back in the early days of whaling they were much much bigger than now (at the time the book was written) allowed to grow to their old age.
It's possible that Moby Dick was simply an incredibly old and wily whale.
I had only just read this chapter today, so imagine my excitement when i saw this video in my feed.
Thank you for making it.
good investigation
8:50 Kinda off topic, but they look like they used a headbutt to greet each other, kind of like cats. I've seen Orcas do that in a documentary once, is that common whale behavior?
You notice he said 4 swam away from the sound. So one swam towards the orca or didn't change course knowing that his on his own and orca are never on their own. This is the silver back gorilla of sperm whales.
Thanks for the video.... now I have a question, usually competition among social predator on land is brutal wolves killing another wolves/coyotes, hyenas killing lions and vice-versa... but what is the relationship between different orca pods? Fish eater orcas doesn't mind if a mammal eating orca is close?....Like Ohh my god those cannibals could eat our calfs?
Nowerdays there's a lot of proof showing bull humpback whales and pods of pilot whales going after pods of orcas and the orcas fleeing for their lives. No bullies like to be challenged
I have a guess that the 21st sperm whales were younger and inexperienced which would explain the lack of distress calls or the weaker tail slaps, just a guess im interested in others input on this.
This will be sick
Orca whales don’t go after Sperm Whales because of the loud clicking sounds the Sperm Whales make, otherwise the Sperm Whales would be on the Orca’s menu as well.
Why is sperm whale behaviour so…defensive to orca. You would think they would use their teeth and coordinate better defences
Do one on Pilot Whales plz
still amaze how Sperm whale swim considering they seem to have the smallest flipper ratio to body size, the extreme is the Humpback giant wing flippers....on a different note, what blows my mind is when pod of Orcas goes after Blue or Fin whales, which are definitely larger than a bull Sperm whale
Pilot whales also have a unique relationship with Killer Whales
The Orcas are smart enough to be opportunistic when attacking something as big as a Sperm Whale. It really comes down to pack hunting tactics with Orcas - usually targeting the old, weak, or young. The interesting thing is they are attacking another apex predator that also lives in pods and only some groups of Orca do this at all. Unlike a lone grizzly bear against a wolf pack, the Sperm Whales could flip the script with a learned behavior change and attack Orca as large pods rather than just defend. In general it seems like a risky match up for either group and targeting easier prey is a better tactic, unless truly desperate.
We also have very limited data on it, it’s hard to know anything definitively.
I do sometimes wonder if Orca fights other pods of Orcas?
Could an orca hypothetically eat a Tyrannosaurus rex that swims in the ocean?
Tyrannosaurus never swim! But ones orcas evolved was the extinction of megalodon.
@@ghostshirt1984that’s just a theory, there is no proof that orca made the megalodon go extinct
I'm speculating, but it seems to me the bull vs. orca scenario is analogous to single male lion vs. a group of hyenas. One or two hyenas wouldn't in their right mind go after the lion unless they're starving and desperate. Meanwhile, the lion is leery of engaging too much because he's aware they may have greater numbers that can wear him down. My guess is even bull sperms know that Orcas typically hunt in packs and prefer having superior numbers. The bull is alone, and they're SMART animals--so no, they're not gonna just charge into what is likely a group of orcas looking for a fight--they could easily find themselves outnumbered 10 to 1. Most of this makes sense to me.
I'm sure it depends how many of each are there I don't think either would take a chance on getting hurt the orca are so smart but it depends how many big orca are in the pod like when that huge grandmother orca hit the great white shark if they have big orca in there pod if they ram a whale like that which they do and do lots of internal damage and that's how they kill the big blue whales and humpbacks they ram them at that speed it would sure do a lot of damage and if it's a big pod there quicker more maneuverable and they hunt together so I think they avoid if they can but seeing that old grandmother hit that great white shark so hard it was unbelievable such a big queen orca she comes into picture like a missel and yet there is still no record of a person being attacked or eaten by orca in the wild in most of videos you see people swimming and they come up close have a look sometimes the person touches it I remember the guy sitting on the ice shelf and the orca kept coming up right in front of him straight up and down it's the ones stuck in captivity that drown there workers I mean when they are rescued at a young age once there good to be on there own they should be let go soon as there ready we don't need to see them doing tricks in a pool let them go there's been a lot of interaction with people and orca lately and they act so slow and docel around people they have been attacking boats but still don't kill the people just something that happened maybe killing a orca but they seem smart enough to just attack the boat that did the damage or killed one not go after the person sure one of the nicest things to see would love to see them up towards north pole in ice conditions the only thing you have to worry about is polar bears who if they get a smell of you they will try to hunt you down and eat you 100% that's all we are to them and they are the only bear that can smell you miles away and start hunting you
"Où est la baleine? Elle se cachalot (elle se cache à l'eau)"
"Where is the whale? (elle se cache à l'eau = its hiding in water)
Octopuses do not have a centralized brain yet they are one of the smartest animals on earth.
The kraken would eat the whole pod like a smorgasbord the kraken was reported by sailors to be mistaken for an island miles long so a 30 ft orca would be grabbed by each tentacle and eaten as snacks who could face the kraken? Maybe leviathan it's about 7 miles long of full battle armor fish scales.
The jaw of the sperm whale is not robust enough to hurt orcas. It’s very slender and looks fragile. A ramming maneuver might be more effective. The head looks like a massive club.
I can’t wait till we build high velocity underwater drones.
Which whale has a bigger brain size? Killer whale or sperm whale? I would say brain size determines the winner here..
Pilot Whales are the real challengers to the Orca's throne
I already knew that bull sperm whales didn’t really harass or confront orcas the way some people have told me they did.
There's a documentary somewhere on UA-cam, I'll look for it, then share the name of it. The documentary showed a bull sperm whale feeding on fish from a trawler where a group of fish eating orcas appeared and harassed the whale with loud noises, which irritated and disoriented the whale forcing him to swim off.
If that the case, then why do killer whales swin away from pilot whales?
For the first orca attack you said that eventually a whale was killed by the orcas and it appeared to be the largest of the group. Normally, the largest would be the strongerst or oldest so it struck me odd that the strongest among them was the one who got killed. Watching this on Mother's day a sad story came to mind. She was the mother of some or most of the group and fought as hard as she could to save her children. The orcas kept attacking and everyone was growing more and more wounded and then she realized what she would do to save them.
A story, unlikely to be true but maybe it rings with some truth. Happy Mother's day
Well males are larger, so I highly doubt it was the mother. The father, possibly.
That's almost sounds like lions versus hyenas.
GW : 4000 lbs
Orca : 12 000 lbs.
This is like being surprised the super heavy weight champion of the world is able to defeat the Flyweight champion of the world.
What is GW
@@wheresthebeef1761 Great White. Great white sharks are about a third the size of an orca. Of course it gets murdered.
Hmmm, so it seems... I mean, orca being the top predator. Pack power doubled by high intelligence.
Bull sperms whales have killed orca
Wow!! This Are Amazing!! If Sperm Whales!! Do Fight Occas!! Then A Sperm Are The King Of The Sea 🌊 🐋.
After an interesting video, so many interesting comments.
Technically the largest predator title still goes to the blue whale considering they eat krill.
Giants squids can kill orcas but rarely do they cross paths. Sperm whales eat giant squids. So yes a sperm whale could easily kill an orca or maybe even a few of them. I doubt they'd waste their energy tho when they can simply dive down a couple miles and lose the orcas that usually only dive a few meters at a time.
That was a finwhale
It's 2am....I have hw to do...
So....Are Killer Whales the Hyenas of the ocean and the Bull Sperm Whale is the adult male Lion? Laymens terms I mean..
Why don't the whales bit back? Surely they could could do some real damage and scare the orcas off.
Orcas scared of pilot whale
Don’t pilot whales cause a problem for orcas?
minke whales are usually smaller than orcas but many of their prey are a lot larger indeed
It is nature, animals look for food. It is a basic instinct. Clever animals will find a way. If an Orca can isolate a big food item it will and feed on it. It is like when a whale carcase is in the water and sharks feed on it. Imagine a party for children and you say here is a plate with the last few cocktail sausage and put it on the table!
The biggest on the planet right now …… do you expect that to change?
Pilot whales scare off orcas
The distribution of sperm whales with females generally occupying poorer hunting areas and males occuping richer areas has been attributed and seems likely the result of predation. In other words predation on females is significant enough for them to evolve major geographical changes at the expense of serious calorific benefit. This also implies that predation on males is not significant or at all.
The interpretation of the 5 examples of bull Sperm Wales being played the sounds of the mammal hunting killers is also interesting. The shorter dive period appears to allow the Bulls to keep surplus of oxygen Cleary ready for a fight or flight which one is questionable. The social response of solitary males 3 out of the 5 appearing with buddies is neither supporting or rejecting predation clearly numbers in a fight help. And the avoidance behaviour in 4/5 again are inconclusive, animals even if they win a fight can sustain injuries that are lief threatening or risky.
My conclusion is that Killers Wales do not predate Bull sperm whales, there's never been a recorded predation event, however bulls still recognise killers as predators and adopt defensive behaviours lets say leopard and Cape buffalo as an analogy on land.
Historically Sperm Whales have been hunted extensively this selection pressure of killing the larger bigger prized animals has probably reduced the species size over the last few hundred years. So although these modern 50-60 ton males are too much for Killers the Bull Sperm whales they evolved alongside were potentially 80+ tons maybe even 100+ who are active hunters ...... this is simply too much for 6 ton( maximum) killer..
Do they fight orca's..... They are crazy enough to go down and fight giant squid 😂 they fearless
8:30……..AVENGERS………..UNITE!!!!!!
Pretty sure sper whales can just click some of the orcas to deth
Orca are probably smarter hence what we see here
Am i the only one who is pissed off about the fact that no one can beat orcas? Lol
Seems like Orcas are real bad-ass :D
Add how they seem to just eat what they want instead of what they can get.
still they cannot turned down anything there are few formidable enemies that they cannot take down that easily.
In the WILD there ARE NO FIGHTS JUST SURVIVAL of the fittest kids ….
Dont you plan to make video about white sperm whales or sperm whale atacks on ships ?
Wassup wild world
Why would you even add a quote from wikipedia?
I was just trying to find the source of the quote as it comes up in many videos.
Why not?
Why something tells me that Liviathan & Megalodon were extinct because of Orcas.
I know it reads strange but it seems if the group of Orcas is too big and too experienced they can literaly kill anything in the ocean. 🤔
Given how Orcas usually hunt whales, which is mainly by targeting young or infirm ones and isolating them and then attempting to drown them by forcing them under water, even a bull sperm whale could be done in by a large enough pod of orcas.
Since Sperm whales only have teeth on their bottom jaw as they mainly hunt squid, they are less suited for bite attacks on Orcas. So the general defence of avoid if possible is a good one.
Now Orcas vs Leviatan would be a different atory, but since those are extinct it doesnt really matter
"Bite attacks"
you are underestimating sperm whales.. their skin is so thick that Orcas have a hard time doing a damage out of it and also they cannot kill sperm whale that easy why even so if let alone a lone Adult Sperm Whale can dive deeper and their clicks are somewhat damaging to Orcas.
the plural of orca is orcas! :)
The singular of killer whales is killer whales.
@@michielvincent3988 you know it's not but i don't get your point?
So a blue whale is vegan 😂😂
Not really. Loads of the stuff they're filter-feeding on is small crustaceans
Blue whales are not vegan fool.
Every whale is carnivore but some largest one is filter feeder
Well, narrated video, but if your talking about sperm whales it would be nice to the footage of sperm whales not mostly blue whales
We should rename orcas as black whales or Magnificent black whales
no orca itself is regal and proper..
orcas or orca. : a relatively small toothed whale (Orcinus orca of the family Delphinidae) that is black above with white underparts and white oval-shaped patches behind the eyes : killer whale.
Keep showing Blue Whale footage when talking about sperm whales.
Orca are NOT the top dog. Pods of pilot whales will mess up orca, they run scared from pilot whales.
you keep flashing to blue whales overhead, its confusing
Keep showing blues while talking about sperm whales.
Kashalot is Russian my pops calls me that I think it just means someone who eats a lot. Also the word Kasha means porridge, or buckwheat, oats, farina!
Ok first of all that’s not a sperm whale being killed. It looks like a small mink or
Other baleen whale. But yes sperm whales don’t like to fight much but when they are in this position and smacking their tales thsts all they really need to do. And a female sperm whale would not go down that easy.
You keep showing blue whales and talking about sperm whales
Yes that got annoying after the segment was used more than a few times.
Orca are opportunistic hunters. If they have the advantage over their prey, they'll take it.
I love whales. Orcas are the 💩 bag republicans of the ocean. They have no stealing and feeding off of everything
No stealing?
You got your parties confused buddy.
That ain’t it chief
It's insane that you've somehow managed to bring American politics into a video about aquatic mammals.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 defending republicans on this channel. Move along, us adults want to talk