I have been waiting for this review! I have the 3000 jump pack and the battery charger / maintainer and love it but the buttons can be a bit hard to press. I have NOT tried to repair a battery that low though.
I bought the same Genius 5 a few years back, while it won't salvage a completely shot battery, it has helped me to squeeze extra time out of a couple batteries I had that were getting noticeably weak. The first time I used the repair mode I popped the cell caps of my Tahoe battery, and could see the sulfate (white crusty stuff on plates), during the process I did see some fizzing in the cells and after the repair was done (I think about 7-8 hours on my battery) the lead plates I could see were noticeably cleaner than before and the battery cranked much better. At the price of batteries if I can squeeze another season out of my truck and mower batteries it's money well spent.
Smart charger/maintainers have really been a game changer. I have them mounted in all my vehicles and keep them plugged in on the ones I do not drive often. They are so inexpensive I have a few in the shop to maintain batteries for the generator, Lawn tractor and old batteries I use for misc. jobs. Outerman MF-2B has been a great charger I have three of them and they perform flawlessly. Car mounted chargers and generator are Schumacher SC1300 the only thing with these are the battery cannot be near dead it needs at least 9 volts of charge to work. They are easy to mount and they maintain my truck battery and other cars I have parked for long periods of time. Thanks for the product review. Cheers
Happy Easter. the repair mode known as a desulphicator uses frequencies to shed sulphur off the lead plates. as long as you dont have a shorted cell or plates that are way to sulphicated it should bring back many idle batteries. there is a point that its too far gone
I really like the noco line of chargers and booster packs. I have one that i leave on the motorcycle whenever its parked and i got 8 years out of the battery. I do mostly short trips with the car so once a month i use the larger g3500 to top up the battery. Set it and forget it. Ive had the g75 for the motorcycle for over 10 years now and no issues.
I think you will find that the battery will still be good, just not quite at 100%. Which is fine because at this point it's a $13 battery core that is still perfectly usable. I was able to salvage six BAGM48 battery's doing a similar repeated recharge process to use at my off grid cabin. I will stay tuned to find out the end result.
They are great chargers. I work at a marina and have charged loads of batteries with those chargers. They do a very good job charging low batteries compared to other chargers of course the battery definitely lost some life after being run down that low but it buys sometime. Interstate batteries are one of my favorite I’ve brought some of those back from just about nothing and they are just a long lasting battery.
My son installed a Noco 2 on his 89 Firebird and it keeps his battery topped off and like new. We would disconnect the battery cables when parked in the garage and the battery would still discharge. Now we leave it plugged into the wall and we have not had to worry about the battery at all.
Sometimes I get pissed at batteries & I will charge them with assault & battery ⚡️🔋💥 & hook it up to a variac, it's like a giant resistor that can bring the voltage from several volts into the upper hundreds of volts gradually or as fast as i want to rotate the dial & basically make it go bye bye 👋 💥 instead of fry
Really interesting. Do batteries have a shorter life expectancy now because of the amount of electronics etc in cars? I had a sears Diehard 850 cca battery I used in five different cars (mostly old dodges) from 1986 to 1997 when I sold the last car with it still functioning fine. I’ve not seen a battery last that long in my newer cars with modern tech.
It still bothers me I couldn't jump someone's SUV with mine. I think I was trying too fast and should have let it sit on longer, maybe even bypass the safety to give more power. Funny thing is I got it for myself but yet to use it for myself, with the exception of the 2022 Derecho when it was used to charge cell phones.
When you charge a battery, before testing or measuring it's voltage, removing the "surface charge" will give you a better baseline of health? A fully charged battery is normally 12.7, a battery at 50% capacity usually at 12.5 V, which is hard to imagine, being only .2 of a volt , is almost 50% different, but extremely important, seeing as the surface charge can effect that measurement greatly? At first hearing this from my friend, who ran a electrical specialty shop, I was amazed? Took me time to understand it? Chargers charge above 12 volts, so the surface charge stays there, in the cells, until you put a load on the battery?
I have an '05 V6 SOHC 4.0l Ford Courier. The 95 Amp alternator was dead when I got it, and I couldn't afford a new one for while, so I used the three batteries I had in rotation. I'd use one until it struggled to turn over, swap it out and put it on a staged charger. I eventually got a 130 Amp alternator, which weirdly, was cheaper than a 95. Oh, my two spare batteries still maintain voltage when stored. I thought with the repeated discharge down under 12 volts that they'd fail...
The Noco manual says to complete a full 12v recharge cycle BEFORE doing the 12v Repair, and be sure to top off with distilled water first. Your video is unclear because you did correctly start with a 12v recharge - but then when the green light was blinking (indicating charge complete, now in maintenance/float charge mode), the 6v option was selected. Not sure if you messed with it during the cut in the video that happened somewhere between 2:16 (where it shows 2 red lights on the 12v recharge) and 3:06 where it shows blinking green on 6v charge.
I left some ceiling lights on in the car for over a week. The under 2 years old 12V lead acid battery was dead flat. The Noco Genius 5 would not start charging in standard 12V mode so I used the Force mode. After the first force mode, it would still not start charging, so I forced it again and from memory, after 3 forcings, it started to charge on standard 12V mode. I left it charging overnight and the green fully charged light was pulsing. I then did a repair mode, just to be sure. The manual recommends you disconnect the battery in repair mode, so I did that. I then left the battery charging on standard mode overnight, so the whole process took 2 days. When I disconnected the charger and tested the battery, it was at 13.6V. I'm not expecting any problems unless I have another lapse of common sense and leave the lights on or the door ajar. If there is a next time I'll leave the battery on the charger in standard mode, becuase the car can go 2 weeks or more without a run.
And thanks for your video Ford Boss Me. Nice to hear some kind words at the end of your video. I live in New Zealand, and I'm sure a lot of my countrymen think all Americans are deeply polarised, filled with hate for someone or other, and ready to shoot anyone who gets in their way.
First, HAPPY EASTER TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY , HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. 🐇🙏✝️👍🤗♥️. Question, when I worked at SEARS Duracell, DIEHARD was the battery we sold, but ONLY at SEARS. I think they were made by INTERSTATE BATT. Back in the 70s🤔. Where do y'all get them from, do you still have SEARS? 🤔.🇺🇲 FROM THE OLD GUY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 😎♥️✝️
@@wesoblander3648 . It was a great battery, If I remember correctly it had a 5yr. warranty then prorated. But when I didn't work at SEARS , Someone told me to go to Interstate batt. We had a manufacturing company here in California San Bernardino. They told me that they made that one for SEARS. But was less expensive. Same Warranty, so I bought them for a long time, for myself and family and friends. Where great 👍🤗
Always chk acid levels on all cells before charging or running repair mode. Repair mode is designed to get the battery to a level that the charging mode will start working. If the charging mode starts working, leave it there until the indicator show green. If the battery has been sitting unused, sulfation may have occurred, leaving it in charge mode for several days may be needed. Again, check the acid level, it may have boiled out!
@@FordBossMe You are right. However, if it is a lead acid battery, even if it's sealed, can lose distilled water, usually due to over charging or deep discharge. The seal cap can be removed (usually under the label) and may even be glued. It can still be removed, albeit, carefully. It all depends with how far you are willing to go to try to revive the battery. A 2019 battery 'should' be recoverable. If it does not hold a charge after your attempt, then what have you got to lose!
@@340dave I'm confused as how much you're willing to go into this right now if you see the newest updated video the battery charged and I actually put it in a vehicle and I'm driving the vehicle with the battery in the vehicle it revived it so I'm lost here I don't know what this is even about
I have an ancient Sears battery charger. In automatic mode, the ammeter would rapidly bounce up from zero when the battery was fully charged. If instead, the ammeter stayed steady at 3-6A, the battery was not long for this world. It was never wrong. Unfortunately, the automatic mode no longer works.
Happy Easter Rich but yea I've got partially sulfated batteries back but deeply sulfated batteries are sometimes hard to get back to life you may need to add distilled water to the battery and give it a slow deep charge with a charger that's essentially a dumb charger till the amp gauge is close to zero I'll Facebook messenger the UA-cam video link to you
I bought a Black and Decker charger about 6 years ago. I have a project Jeep ZJ that sat a lot. Using the reconditioning mode for 24hrs, then charging. The battery that would not take a charge anymore, became fully charged.
After watching this video I’ve decided I’m going to invest in this to try on some small engine batteries I know are salvageable…thank you for reviewing this and posting honest feedback on it!!!
Happy Easter brother. I hope this works with your battery I'm looking to repair a couple of boat batteries myself. If this works for you then I'll know what I can try. 🤞
Love this I have a car that sits in the garage from October to April. I can get in after months and the battery is at 100% and starts right up.I use to disconnect the battery before storage but this is so much easier . Just leave it connected.
I am ready for the following parts to this video. I have 2 of the 10 amp version and like them a lot, the battery clamps are very nice and they do charge at 9.9x amp rate.
Can you please help me with this, I see 3 options for battery type on this device -12V: (wet cell, gel cell, flooded, calcium batteries) -12V AGM : -12V Lithium: it says (for use on batteries with BMS only Which one should I choose to charge (Motorcraft rough tested max) ?🤔 and My car doesn't use BMS I appreciate it 🙏
If you have just a regular red and black label and it says Max then it's just your regular 12 volt If you have the label that is like a tannish color cream color then you have an AGM
@@FordBossMe I figured it would just saying the 5 is less ideal (the reason is the raw ampacity that each charger is rated for). But they are very good chargers, I recommend them to everyone I know.
Rich what is your opinion of those litte solar battery trickle chargers? My friend has a Suburban that he hardly ever drives but uses it for family vacations. Needless to say, his battery is always in bad shape. I was going to recommend one of those cheapy solar chargers, the ones where you set it on the dash facing up then plug it into the cigarette lighter for a battery maintainer.
If it's the cheap one from harbor freight I believe they're trash (tried two, wires are junk). Beyond that it's a fairly expensive solution if you want to get the regulators and such.
The other issue is unless you buy a regulator you can actually drain the battery because the solar panel acts like a resistor load if its not getting active sun.
I found that it helps alot to just disconnect a battery in a seldom used vehicle as they will all rundown eventually from the slight drain of electronic components - when you want to use that vehicle just reconnect the ground cable - I just installed a switch on the negative terminal to make it simple
I have been waiting for this review! I have the 3000 jump pack and the battery charger / maintainer and love it but the buttons can be a bit hard to press. I have NOT tried to repair a battery that low though.
It's holding 12.7v steady now
They can repair both lead acid and lithium cells, I've used it on a lithium powersports battery that was just given to me as a toss away. It did work.
That is Amazing how it pulled that battery back to 12.3 volts. Great battery tool Rich 😊
I bought the same Genius 5 a few years back, while it won't salvage a completely shot battery, it has helped me to squeeze extra time out of a couple batteries I had that were getting noticeably weak. The first time I used the repair mode I popped the cell caps of my Tahoe battery, and could see the sulfate (white crusty stuff on plates), during the process I did see some fizzing in the cells and after the repair was done (I think about 7-8 hours on my battery) the lead plates I could see were noticeably cleaner than before and the battery cranked much better. At the price of batteries if I can squeeze another season out of my truck and mower batteries it's money well spent.
Smart charger/maintainers have really been a game changer. I have them mounted in all my vehicles and keep them plugged in on the ones I do not drive often. They are so inexpensive I have a few in the shop to maintain batteries for the generator, Lawn tractor and old batteries I use for misc. jobs. Outerman MF-2B has been a great charger I have three of them and they perform flawlessly.
Car mounted chargers and generator are Schumacher SC1300 the only thing with these are the battery cannot be near dead it needs at least 9 volts of charge to work. They are easy to mount and they maintain my truck battery and other cars I have parked for long periods of time. Thanks for the product review. Cheers
Happy Easter. the repair mode known as a desulphicator uses frequencies to shed sulphur off the lead plates. as long as you dont have a shorted cell or plates that are way to sulphicated it should bring back many idle batteries. there is a point that its too far gone
I really like the noco line of chargers and booster packs. I have one that i leave on the motorcycle whenever its parked and i got 8 years out of the battery. I do mostly short trips with the car so once a month i use the larger g3500 to top up the battery. Set it and forget it. Ive had the g75 for the motorcycle for over 10 years now and no issues.
I think you will find that the battery will still be good, just not quite at 100%. Which is fine because at this point it's a $13 battery core that is still perfectly usable. I was able to salvage six BAGM48 battery's doing a similar repeated recharge process to use at my off grid cabin. I will stay tuned to find out the end result.
You could take a volt meter on battery post to get a reading too.
They are great chargers. I work at a marina and have charged loads of batteries with those chargers. They do a very good job charging low batteries compared to other chargers of course the battery definitely lost some life after being run down that low but it buys sometime. Interstate batteries are one of my favorite I’ve brought some of those back from just about nothing and they are just a long lasting battery.
How us the battery holding up after 8 months? Merry Christmas to you and your family and everyone. God bless.
Happy Easter to you and your family Rich! Great video!
I think after you preform the "repair" you need to run it through the charge cycle again.
There's a book called battery secrets . Very interesting.
Very funny that a 12v battery is dead at 11.9vdc
. Love the channel
Keep up the good content and good luck on your new position.
Would have been nice to see the acid level in each port. Might need a little distilled water to bring the level up for better charging ability.
Yessur, always check the acid levels before charging or running repair mode.
My son installed a Noco 2 on his 89 Firebird and it keeps his battery topped off and like new. We would disconnect the battery cables when parked in the garage and the battery would still discharge. Now we leave it plugged into the wall and we have not had to worry about the battery at all.
Sometimes I get pissed at batteries & I will charge them with assault & battery ⚡️🔋💥 & hook it up to a variac, it's like a giant resistor that can bring the voltage from several volts into the upper hundreds of volts gradually or as fast as i want to rotate the dial & basically make it go bye bye 👋 💥 instead of fry
OMG. This is incredible.
Really interesting. Do batteries have a shorter life expectancy now because of the amount of electronics etc in cars?
I had a sears Diehard 850 cca battery I used in five different cars (mostly old dodges) from 1986 to 1997 when I sold the last car with it still functioning fine.
I’ve not seen a battery last that long in my newer cars with modern tech.
Yeah I would probably say yes
Sometimes you can trick it with a second battery and get it charged that way.
It still bothers me I couldn't jump someone's SUV with mine. I think I was trying too fast and should have let it sit on longer, maybe even bypass the safety to give more power. Funny thing is I got it for myself but yet to use it for myself, with the exception of the 2022 Derecho when it was used to charge cell phones.
When you charge a battery, before testing or measuring it's voltage, removing the "surface charge" will give you a better baseline of health? A fully charged battery is normally 12.7, a battery at 50% capacity usually at 12.5 V, which is hard to imagine, being only .2 of a volt , is almost 50% different, but extremely important, seeing as the surface charge can effect that measurement greatly? At first hearing this from my friend, who ran a electrical specialty shop, I was amazed? Took me time to understand it? Chargers charge above 12 volts, so the surface charge stays there, in the cells, until you put a load on the battery?
I can see the thought process
I have an '05 V6 SOHC 4.0l Ford Courier. The 95 Amp alternator was dead when I got it, and I couldn't afford a new one for while, so I used the three batteries I had in rotation. I'd use one until it struggled to turn over, swap it out and put it on a staged charger. I eventually got a 130 Amp alternator, which weirdly, was cheaper than a 95. Oh, my two spare batteries still maintain voltage when stored. I thought with the repeated discharge down under 12 volts that they'd fail...
Bring it to a full charge then put it in repair mode and don't stop it, let it go through the repair cycle until it stops flashing.
The Noco manual says to complete a full 12v recharge cycle BEFORE doing the 12v Repair, and be sure to top off with distilled water first. Your video is unclear because you did correctly start with a 12v recharge - but then when the green light was blinking (indicating charge complete, now in maintenance/float charge mode), the 6v option was selected. Not sure if you messed with it during the cut in the video that happened somewhere between 2:16 (where it shows 2 red lights on the 12v recharge) and 3:06 where it shows blinking green on 6v charge.
Nice review ✅
3.9 volts should be two good cells minus loss thru the dead ones I was able to use a battery that had four good cells @8.0 volts
I left some ceiling lights on in the car for over a week. The under 2 years old 12V lead acid battery was dead flat. The Noco Genius 5 would not start charging in standard 12V mode so I used the Force mode. After the first force mode, it would still not start charging, so I forced it again and from memory, after 3 forcings, it started to charge on standard 12V mode. I left it charging overnight and the green fully charged light was pulsing. I then did a repair mode, just to be sure. The manual recommends you disconnect the battery in repair mode, so I did that. I then left the battery charging on standard mode overnight, so the whole process took 2 days. When I disconnected the charger and tested the battery, it was at 13.6V. I'm not expecting any problems unless I have another lapse of common sense and leave the lights on or the door ajar. If there is a next time I'll leave the battery on the charger in standard mode, becuase the car can go 2 weeks or more without a run.
And thanks for your video Ford Boss Me. Nice to hear some kind words at the end of your video. I live in New Zealand, and I'm sure a lot of my countrymen think all Americans are deeply polarised, filled with hate for someone or other, and ready to shoot anyone who gets in their way.
Happy Easter!
First, HAPPY EASTER TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY , HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. 🐇🙏✝️👍🤗♥️. Question, when I worked at SEARS Duracell, DIEHARD was the battery we sold, but ONLY at SEARS. I think they were made by INTERSTATE BATT. Back in the 70s🤔. Where do y'all get them from, do you still have SEARS? 🤔.🇺🇲 FROM THE OLD GUY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 😎♥️✝️
I don't even really know who carries that Duracell batteries anymore I think maybe Batteries Plus does
Yep, at least the last time I checked with a local Batteries Plus here in TX. It looked like a solid battery.
@@wesoblander3648 . It was a great battery, If I remember correctly it had a 5yr. warranty then prorated. But when I didn't work at SEARS , Someone told me to go to Interstate batt. We had a manufacturing company here in California San Bernardino. They told me that they made that one for SEARS. But was less expensive. Same Warranty, so I bought them for a long time, for myself and family and friends. Where great 👍🤗
Always chk acid levels on all cells before charging or running repair mode. Repair mode is designed to get the battery to a level that the charging mode will start working. If the charging mode starts working, leave it there until the indicator show green. If the battery has been sitting unused, sulfation may have occurred, leaving it in charge mode for several days may be needed. Again, check the acid level, it may have boiled out!
You can't with sealed batteries unless you know how you peel it apart so that won't work
@@FordBossMe You are right. However, if it is a lead acid battery, even if it's sealed, can lose distilled water, usually due to over charging or deep discharge. The seal cap can be removed (usually under the label) and may even be glued. It can still be removed, albeit, carefully. It all depends with how far you are willing to go to try to revive the battery. A 2019 battery 'should' be recoverable. If it does not hold a charge after your attempt, then what have you got to lose!
@@340dave I'm confused as how much you're willing to go into this right now if you see the newest updated video the battery charged and I actually put it in a vehicle and I'm driving the vehicle with the battery in the vehicle it revived it so I'm lost here I don't know what this is even about
I have an ancient Sears battery charger. In automatic mode, the ammeter would rapidly bounce up from zero when the battery was fully charged. If instead, the ammeter stayed steady at 3-6A, the battery was not long for this world. It was never wrong. Unfortunately, the automatic mode no longer works.
Happy Easter Rich but yea I've got partially sulfated batteries back but deeply sulfated batteries are sometimes hard to get back to life you may need to add distilled water to the battery and give it a slow deep charge with a charger that's essentially a dumb charger till the amp gauge is close to zero I'll Facebook messenger the UA-cam video link to you
I bought a Black and Decker charger about 6 years ago. I have a project Jeep ZJ that sat a lot. Using the reconditioning mode for 24hrs, then charging. The battery that would not take a charge anymore, became fully charged.
After watching this video I’ve decided I’m going to invest in this to try on some small engine batteries I know are salvageable…thank you for reviewing this and posting honest feedback on it!!!
Have you taken the top off and added water
I just recovered a Lawn tractor battery that's 4 years old with a maintenance charger. I expected it to die and its come back to life.
Happy Easter brother. I hope this works with your battery I'm looking to repair a couple of boat batteries myself. If this works for you then I'll know what I can try. 🤞
😂 sounded like you have some barking spiders there
Iittle bit
Bayyery
Fixed
Love this I have a car that sits in the garage from October to April. I can get in after months and the battery is at 100% and starts right up.I use to disconnect the battery before storage but this is so much easier . Just leave it connected.
I have a genius 1 I used to bring an old motorcycle battery back for a while til I could get a lithium one. I love it.
I am ready for the following parts to this video.
I have 2 of the 10 amp version and like them a lot, the battery clamps are very nice and they do charge at 9.9x amp rate.
I try to restore and no luck at all. It's just old wife's tails. (mess with the acid..)
I'm saying something nice,
Happy Easter to you..
That is good advice, and thanks for reviewing this product. It's been on my radar for the past month or two.
Boss what do you think about the jump box Goodall
I don't know anything about them
Can you please help me with this, I see 3 options for battery type on this device
-12V: (wet cell, gel cell, flooded, calcium batteries)
-12V AGM :
-12V Lithium: it says (for use on batteries with BMS only
Which one should I choose to charge (Motorcraft rough tested max) ?🤔
and My car doesn't use BMS
I appreciate it 🙏
If you have just a regular red and black label and it says Max then it's just your regular 12 volt
If you have the label that is like a tannish color cream color then you have an AGM
You just move on lol
Happy Easter to you and your lovely family Rich
Happy Easter
Love Duracell or energizer auto battery
Run a load test after you restore the battery. Happy Easter! :)
👍👍👍👍
Happy Easter Rich. Be Blessed bro!
never saw anything like that b4... nice 2 learn sumthing nu... 😂
How long did each “repair” cycle take?
Couple hours
@@FordBossMe thanks, looking at getting one of these.
I wasn’t this lucky…..
I have the noco 10, I use it for lithium power cells and gel batteries. The 5 is not ideal for car batteries.
Worked beautifully watch follow up video
@@FordBossMe I figured it would just saying the 5 is less ideal (the reason is the raw ampacity that each charger is rated for). But they are very good chargers, I recommend them to everyone I know.
Pretty good video rich! Noco makes some good stuff.
Yes they do
Rich what is your opinion of those litte solar battery trickle chargers? My friend has a Suburban that he hardly ever drives but uses it for family vacations. Needless to say, his battery is always in bad shape. I was going to recommend one of those cheapy solar chargers, the ones where you set it on the dash facing up then plug it into the cigarette lighter for a battery maintainer.
I hear a lot of people have good luck with the solar ones but that's from already healthy batteries not bad batteries too healthy batteries
@@FordBossMe Roger that. Thanks for the info!
If it's the cheap one from harbor freight I believe they're trash (tried two, wires are junk). Beyond that it's a fairly expensive solution if you want to get the regulators and such.
The other issue is unless you buy a regulator you can actually drain the battery because the solar panel acts like a resistor load if its not getting active sun.
I found that it helps alot to just disconnect a battery in a seldom used vehicle as they will all rundown eventually from the slight drain of electronic components - when you want to use that vehicle just reconnect the ground cable - I just installed a switch on the negative terminal to make it simple
Thank you.
Good stuff
Battery may work for a short time in warm weather but will quickly die in freezing temperatures. There is no fixing a battery.