And true to life. Mormons are vastly overrepresented at the CIA because they don't drink or use drugs. So its easier for them to pass the background check needed to obtain a top-secret clearance.
The simple gesture of Olson raising his eyebrows after Cox leaves the room is one of the greatest comedic beats in a movie that is ALL great comedic beats.
The way Ozzy interacts with Olson tells SO much about Olson's character despite him being a minor part of the film. That little look back when Ozzy says "whose ass didn't I kiss?!" is whisper subtle. Great example of show-don't-tell.
Still being a bit moderate putting back in the bottle a bit of the whiskey he poured in the shooter, next scene there's like 12 half lemons on the tray
@@forrestpenrod2294 I actually prefer what they changed it to, Malkovich's character essentially alienates Peck from his co-workers by saying 'We all...'. Keep it local, hit close to home, attack their self esteem etc.
@@geg6315 it's always purely political. They used the drinking problem to piss him off enough to walk out and thus clean hands. They were most definitely going to replace him with an operative.
why the movie is so funny is because the entire time it wasn't political at all the guy just wasn't very good at his job. And nobody at the FBI actually cared about him or the data that got leaked at all
This scene is so brilliant. From the acting, the iconic facial gestures, the ivy league smug style tailored suits. Its makes you feel like you're actually watching a inter-office CIA conflict resolution meeting. Its so hilarious.
Its obviously not anywhere close to how an actual CIA meeting would happen. The analyst would come in, be told they're on a change of mission, then they would say yes boss and then be on their way. No squirming. No over-the-top reaction. Just business lmao.
@@FrancisBurns Who is "Cox" here? I just do not get how someone could think that people never would fight. Especially in a field that is not as hierarchical as the military.
Fun fact, the CIA actually does have a lot of Mormons. They make ideal applicants because they often speak second or third languages and they live low-risk lifestyles.
It's also highly recommended to get higher education, we live in a hierarchical culture where obeying orders is second nature, we keep secrets pretty easily, we live in tight nit communities where people know each other or knows someone who knows someone, there's a strong work ethic in the community, and it isn't an uncommon thing to hear about someone moving to a different country for a few years on a mission.
I once met John Malkovich on a bullet train from Avignon to Paris. We were on the same car. Me and my colleagues were coming back from a company retreat. I was high on prescription drugs and went to see him to tell him I was a big fan. He was very courteous. I have the pictures to prove it.
@@macstrong1284 thank you very much. I have 2 or 3 cool stories I tell over and over again. The other is that I saw Joker in the theater on the day it premiered and Roman Polanski happened to be in the room. Amazingly enough it was on the eve of another company retreat.
This is the opening scene so at first you feel bad for Ozzy for being fired over an alleged drinking problem. However, it’s later revealed that the guys were right about him 🤣✋
Nothing in this escene is left to chance. So typical of the Coen. For Ozzy to say that he knows Olsen by reputation (which clearly suggests that Olsen is there in case Ozzy gets aggressive) is backed by Olsen's location (behind Ozzy). The disposition is clear, Palmer communicates, Peck is there to negotiate and talk and Olsen to use force. A spectacular scene, of a really great movie.
It's actually clear albeit subtle as the movie goes on that Olsen is surveillance, maybe for the CIA equivalent of Internal Affairs. He's the one who reports Chad getting killed at Ozzie's house, which infers later that he's the one that shot Ozzie as he was killing Mr. Hard Bodies.
Then again what would be the response if he didn't have a drinking problem? If you tell someone they are insane, how can they provide evidence that they are sane? By saying they are?
Holy crap the look on his face as he says that!!! My god I'm laughing out loud! I have a drinking problem?!? Malkovich's best scene ever in his career. Priceless.
"No discussion?" "We're having the discussion right now." I know this is a comedy but that absolutely triggered me. Like, no we're fucking not having a dicusssion; how dare you call this a discussion?
We all know of someone like Osbourne. Look, it's true that maybe Osbourne is the victim of office politics, but given his reaction, and the reaction of him to almost everyone else in the film, he seems unhinged and very likely to take offence to even slightly perceived slights and honestly sounds like a pain to work with. We've all had colleagues like this - they think they're god's gift to the world despite mediocre work, any and all problems or complications are due to someone else, they constantly talk trash about others and deride their abilities, but when they fail to perform, it's "persecution", it's "circumstances outside of my control", it's "backstabbers" etc. People like Osbourne go through life thinking that everyone its out to get them, without realising that the reason why everyone hates them is... well... because they're not a good person. I had a family member who, at every singe job, they made enemies with just about everyone. They never got along with anyone and it was always "everyone is out to get me" - job after job after job - apparently never had a good co-worker, never had a good boss, never was treated fairly by anyone, ever. Having lived in the same universe as this person and managed to get along with almost everyone I ever met, I have to say that if you go through life making enemies at every work place, perhaps the problem isn't "everyone else", perhaps the problem is you.
I don't think that being difficult to work with should be a fireable offense. But if that's the kind of workplace you want to work at, that's your call. To each, his own.
Well I see where you're going with this and I actually met people like that, however, I actually do not blame them - there is so much lunacy absurds and imbeciles around trying to push work off their desk and put somebody as a scapegoat, there are so many nonsense comments conclusions tasks etc. that for somebody with critical thinking and some constructive logic behind it is very hard to accept to the point of mania when somebody tries to bullshit you. Which is pretty much what's happening all the time all over the place, life is a theater of smaller and bigger roles none of which matter actually. An analyst like the coders or engineers is susceptive to judge people by the bullshit they create around them and havoc they generate. So anyway I sympathize with Osbourne here, cuz the funny thing is probably he's right. Of course when it comes to layoffs and cost cutting he is the first one to shove out. Not a very likable type, but without people like him the level of lunacy goes to the next level typically. I myself have my own company which advises managements, supervisory boards, owners on their strategies, all aspects of financial and operational management and I can tell you sometimes simple logical conclusions that are absent in the companies are amazingly obvious to everybody suddenly but everybody has their own little agenda. Typically I observe that within a given company there's always one or two people max who know what the fuck is going on and really understand the client's business background and model. Very often they are outside any management, cuz there are not likable they speak out the brutal truth loud and for that simple reason they are outside anything that's important in the company but they are irreplaceable. I would not commit to say that Osbourne is such a type cuz we know from the other scenes in the movie he's level 3 clearance so he's a little pawn here and it is indeed sarcastic here that he overplays crucifixion and political agenda whereas the brutal truth here is just he's easily expandable from the team. Nonetheless I sometimes need to identify very quickly within clients crew who these expendable ones and who these irreplaceable ones are and sometimes it is very easy to make a mistake. However I agree with you on this one - many people have far too much ego driven personalities and they simply do not understand they are just as expendable as anybody else - at the end of the day we are all just tools for a given purpose and even management boards or supervisory boards are tools. Even equity owners are in the management's hands sometimes. Understanding that you're not special but just a small cog in a wheel is the beginning of a pretty good life and a pretty fruitful career from my experience. Grotesquely I can tell you that despite sometimes very complex strategy rollouts or financial restructurings I could summarize my role as an advisor to this - making all claimants more mindful about themselves about their role in life and interaction with other people around. And this mindfulness ego discussion sometimes makes people open their eyes wide and see things from completely different perspectives. Not always it is successful but very many times it is oiling the cogs in the wheel back again and that alone is sufficient enough. Funny. P.S. I often explore the scene from Moneyball when Brad Pitt as the manager talks to Old Man Dave Justice honestly about his new role - this is a briliant summary of people's self perception and actual role they play.
When he's trying to be in a spy film and says "Olson, I know by... reputation", his boss just fully laughs at him behind his back. You ain't getting anywhere if everyone just thinks you're a dullard, and the temper tantrums are even worse. It doesn't matter if he's a "good fucking analyst" (probably way overvalues himself), there's plenty of good analysts in that department already who aren't unstable and delusional. If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes, as they say. He's always losing his marbles over inconsequential shit that an adult should be able to resolve easily.
"Look, it's true that maybe Osbourne is the victim of office politics" Um, no? He really is just an incompetent drunk. He then develops a persecution complex, because that's what in-denial addicts do.
I was born and raised in DC. As an adult, I did contract work with the Department of Defense, Justice, DARPA, DLA, etc., so I circulated directly or indirectly on the periphery of many scenes like this one. I remember one time, back in the early 90s, I was tasked to do some software upgrades on some computers over at the Pentagon. I opened the door to a nondescript room in one of the inner rings only to find an incredible small office space measuring about 30 feet by about 15 feet. In that confined area something like 10 desks were crammed together so tightly that you had to turn side ways to make your way across the room. As I walked through the door, one of the room's occupants was in mid-lunge, clamoring over his desk in the process of assailing one of his co-workers. He was screaming "You stabbed me in the back you son of a bitch!" over and over. I turned around, walked back out of the office and quietly closed the door behind me. When I got back to my home office, which was over in the Skyline Plaza in Bailey's Crossroads, I updated my manager on the day's installs. "What about room such-and-such?", he asked. "Well, when I stopped by there was an assault in progress that may have morphed into a homicide, so I didn't really feel comfortable going back there when I finished up with the other assignments", I replied. My supervisor frowned, looked down at his desk and said "Well, it IS the Pentagon, after all. Where do you think they would fight, at the National Basilica???" That's the moment when I realized working for the government, and DOD in particular, was definitely not what it was made out to be, and that's pretty much true for most of DC. While there are some good, talented, trustworthy professionals in DC, the vast majority are career opportunists, corrupt, narcissistic, egotistical, overly-indulged and certainly over-paid for what little work they actually do. When I was working for FDIC, I would monitor the "flex timers", these were the people who were allowed to start work at 6 or 6:30AM who would then leave around 3PM or so. One of FDIC's more senior administrators was curious, so I was tasked with d coming in early and monitoring network activity. The administrator suspected that the flex-timers weren't really doing much work and he was right. Most flexers came in, logged onto the network and then their node would go silent. I would drop by their office and find their desks vacant. Heading over to the on-site galley, I would usually find them enjoying a leisurely, sumptuous breakfast as they casually read the Washington Compost of The New York Slimes. Then they'd head back to their offices and balance their checkbooks, surf the Internet for whatever it was they were looking to buy, etc. They didn't actually start working till 9 or 10AM, when their bosses came in. Then they would shut down around 11AM for lunch, log back in around 1, do a couple hours work before leaving for the day around 3. On any given day, they only put in about 4 hours worth of actual work. Then there were the smug, arrogant narcissistic personalities who thought they were so clever that they could lie to or deceive whomever they wanted and get away with it, like George Clooney's character. Man I'm glad I'm out of that unholy city of depravity and deception.
This & his hosting of SNL his how my young son knows JM. Don't think he's ever seen a serious role. Reminds me I think Man in the Iron Mask is on HBO. Gabriel Bryne told a good story about working on that.
This funny scene reminds me of another funny CIA scene in a different movie. Charlie Wilson's War. When Phillip Seymour Hoffman was told he lost his CIA desk of Iceland or something. And he broke the window. Twice.
I've had to approach 4 friends about their drinking problems over the past 30 years. Every single one of them reacted this way. Two of them got help and are much happier now. One drank himself to death (literally). One cut ties with all her friends and I have no idea what happened to her.
I love this movie so much I think I watch it at least once a month, without fail. Its become the "you fucker" movie.....a phrase repeated by most of its actors. I now use it as a term of endearment. Thank you, Coen brothers.
@@year96productions Sure, _"Hail Kolob"_ or whatever, I'm not Mormon so I wouldn't know; I just live in the cesspool of a Salt Lake City that was ruined by people like yourself who did everything they could to culturally undermine it out of spite for the religion they live to hate. I'm glad though that you were able to grow out of that infantile contrarianism and find your way back to being a productive member of majority-LDS society instead of an edgy ass hole obsessed with destroying everything they built because daddy made you go to church. Congratulations on emerging from adolescence and reintegrating into their community. It may not be my own but, I feel everyone's gotta have a tribe and I'm happy you've matured enough to get over petty differences and reunite with yours. You're an odd people and, disturbingly prone to smiling smiles that set me on edge but, you seem a wholesome bunch and I'm glad you can finally be happy together again. Have a good one, Prodigal Son; I'm glad you chose genuine joy and purpose by choosing to return home.
@@year96productions Sure, _"Hail Kolob"_ or whatever, I'm not Mormon so I wouldn't know; I just live in a cesspool of a Salt Lake City that was ruined by people like yourself who did everything they could to undermine it out of spite for the religion they live to hate. I'm glad though that you were able to grow out of that infantile contrarianism and find your way back to being a productive member of majority-LDS society instead of an edgy douche obsessed with destroying everything they built because daddy made you go to church. Congratulations on emerging from adolescence and reintegrating into their community. It may not be my own but, I feel everyone's gotta have a tribe and I'm happy you matured enough to get over petty differences and reunite with yours. You're an odd people and, disturbingly prone to smiling smiles that set me on edge but, you seem a wholesome people and I'm glad you can finally be happy together again. Have a good one, Prodigal Son; I'm glad you chose genuine happiness by choosing to return home.
I assume Olson was supposed to be a field agent that his mere presence there he takes like an insult. Probably the CIA equivalent of having a security guard when you are getting fired to make sure you don't do anything.
Funny thing is anyone and everyone is expendable in this world if they don't engage in office politics. It's a world that prides itself on performance, but it would cut off its left arm just to send a message and show who the boss is. Intelligence never knows who the irreplaceable people are until they are gone.
Even irreplacable people are replaceable if they make enough people miserable. You might be objectively great at what you do, but if you make everyone else not want to come to work every day, then you're not nearly as valuable as you might think.
I suppose the lie that "there was a leak from your department and so we are isolating you and your team until we determine where it came from" just didn't cross their minds.
I love the natural speech in this movie. “Uhm, its uhm, uuh, uhm, well, aah, yes.” I mean, honestly the fact that Hollywood got away with portraying people as perfectly speaking for decades is crazy if you think about it. We all mess up our sentences, we’re all thinking as we’re speaking, we’re all a little anxious about how our words will be received. That’s normal. Idk, this movie was just a nice change of pace I guess
"You are a mormon, next to you, we all have a drinking problem" This is gold.
His face when he turned he turned to say it
@@hamie63_m Hahaha exactly, and the way he started the sentence short of breath. This is thespian malcovich skills used in a comedy.
This is my favorite line ever because it's true AND Oz does have a problem. This works both ways
And true to life. Mormons are vastly overrepresented at the CIA because they don't drink or use drugs. So its easier for them to pass the background check needed to obtain a top-secret clearance.
I love John Malkovich
The simple gesture of Olson raising his eyebrows after Cox leaves the room is one of the greatest comedic beats in a movie that is ALL great comedic beats.
OMG!!! I never noticed that. lol.
The way Ozzy interacts with Olson tells SO much about Olson's character despite him being a minor part of the film. That little look back when Ozzy says "whose ass didn't I kiss?!" is whisper subtle. Great example of show-don't-tell.
The way he spreads his arms when he says “this is a crucifixion” kills me 😂
"This is political" is what makes it so powerful
Malkovich Martyr Complex. 🤣🤣
Malkovich was a second away from a heart attack for the entire movie!
I think you're thinking of the movie In The Line of Fire. Makes this scene look like hes in a Coma.
Yup…and That’s just the way we like him 😃
Malkovich, not the hardest or most gangsta way of saying “fuck” in the business, but definitely the most poetically enunciated.
"I'm better, I'm back, You Fuckers!" 😂😂😂
Tell me you've seen Alien3 because I have never, *ever* heard a better F-bomb than after that warden guy gets hauled up into the ceiling.
I think the hardest is Bryan Cranston as Walter White saying fuck you to gretchen
FAcK your Vocabulary
"F*ck microsoft..... F********ck"
Admire the guy playing Olson - it's his whole role in the movie, sitting on this couch and making faces in this scene
Malkovich is too funny in this movie. Love how in the beginning he's all dapper in a bow tie & by the end he's lost it & walking around in a bathrobe
He's Mr. Lahey.
The clinking of the ice in the scotch glass...been there, done that
@@Malumbrus Yes he is, without the cheeseburger loving sex slave.
Men don't wear a fuckin bowtie.
...And then the very next scene has him drinking. LMAO
Still being a bit moderate putting back in the bottle a bit of the whiskey he poured in the shooter, next scene there's like 12 half lemons on the tray
@@hsapprentice6814 😂😂
Cant blame him. He was just fired
Waiting for the clock to hit 5 o'clock with daytime TV playing.
That’s how alcoholics work haha enraged are the thought of being outed for their drinking even though they know it’s true
The original line was “You’re a Mormon; you think that the Pope has a drinking problem.
That’s a better line... absolutely proper funny lol
Omg that’s an INCREDIBLE line! Why the heck did they change it?
@@forrestpenrod2294 I actually prefer what they changed it to, Malkovich's character essentially alienates Peck from his co-workers by saying 'We all...'. Keep it local, hit close to home, attack their self esteem etc.
No, it's not
@@forrestpenrod2294 Let's be honest - THIS IS POLITICAL, AND DON'T TELL ME IT'S NOT.
The way Peck looks at Ozzy after saying "you have a drinking problem" as if to say "please just run with this" kills me every time
But he does have a drinking problem
@@geg6315 it's always purely political. They used the drinking problem to piss him off enough to walk out and thus clean hands. They were most definitely going to replace him with an operative.
@@geg6315 Fuck you Geg, you're a mormon! Next to you we all have a drinking problem.
@@CrazyMunky84 that was good
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The whole point of the movie is that spy thrillers are not always serious and all business. Sometimes its just nonsense waste of time and money :D
just like in the real world
Nonsense as a theme isn't strange to the Coens' films.
Yes.... no biggie
Yeah that pretty much sums up the intelligence community.
We don't know what we don't know.
Before he leaves the room, he's T-Posing to assert his dominance
When Malkovich looks at Peck after he tells him he has a drinking problem is pure comedic gold.
That eyebrow raise is the perfect way to end this scene
The crucifixion hand gestures kill me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
my man was T-posing to intimidate them
This movie is the best comedy of manners
He's the best. When he's working out on the boat with the step? 😂
Every time I pour myself a drink I mutter under my breath, "I have a drinking problem?!"
You should probably wait until you pour your tenth drink too mutter that 🤣
@@asecretone Sounds like you actually have a drinking problem.
"Whose ass DIDN'T I KISS!!" That always seems to be the case when you're about to get fired or demoted. Story of my life lol
why the movie is so funny is because the entire time it wasn't political at all the guy just wasn't very good at his job. And nobody at the FBI actually cared about him or the data that got leaked at all
Me too....that and the drinking
Not if you have a drinking problem.
whose
@@horseradish4046 you right you right 🤣
This scene is so brilliant. From the acting, the iconic facial gestures, the ivy league smug style tailored suits. Its makes you feel like you're actually watching a inter-office CIA conflict resolution meeting. Its so hilarious.
Its obviously not anywhere close to how an actual CIA meeting would happen. The analyst would come in, be told they're on a change of mission, then they would say yes boss and then be on their way. No squirming. No over-the-top reaction. Just business lmao.
@@Theguyinthefez I think it is somewhere in the middle. Pretending like people have no clashes in that life is insane as well.
people use the word 'iconic' way too much these days.
@@johnnotrealname8168 Maybe that way Cox was being demoted? Always being a drunken diva?
@@FrancisBurns Who is "Cox" here? I just do not get how someone could think that people never would fight. Especially in a field that is not as hierarchical as the military.
Fun fact, the CIA actually does have a lot of Mormons. They make ideal applicants because they often speak second or third languages and they live low-risk lifestyles.
It started with Howard Hughes. Robert Maheu (sic) hired them as security and "assistants" to Mr. Hughes. Read it in Spooks by Jim Hougan.
@@floydvaughn836 Noah Dietrich, Hughes' business fixer, also noted that about the Mormons in his book about life working for Hughes.
It's also highly recommended to get higher education, we live in a hierarchical culture where obeying orders is second nature, we keep secrets pretty easily, we live in tight nit communities where people know each other or knows someone who knows someone, there's a strong work ethic in the community, and it isn't an uncommon thing to hear about someone moving to a different country for a few years on a mission.
and they all follow orders
Yeah ... but they hold delusional religious beliefs. Do you know ANYTHING about mormonism?
I once met John Malkovich on a bullet train from Avignon to Paris. We were on the same car. Me and my colleagues were coming back from a company retreat. I was high on prescription drugs and went to see him to tell him I was a big fan. He was very courteous. I have the pictures to prove it.
cool story.
@@macstrong1284 thank you very much. I have 2 or 3 cool stories I tell over and over again. The other is that I saw Joker in the theater on the day it premiered and Roman Polanski happened to be in the room. Amazingly enough it was on the eve of another company retreat.
You can prove you were high.
This makes me want to watch this movie. Man he is a great actor
It’s a great movie! One of the Coen brothers’ hidden gems
its on Netflix if your interested
@@cuckoobrain7999 no it’s not? Dammit dude you got my hopes up
Depends on where you live.
Yes! Was just thinking the same.
Start of movie: "I have a drinking problem?"
End of movie: Beating a man to death with a tomahawk in broad daylight while holding a drink
You never beat a man to death with a tomahawk in broad daylight while holding a drink? What a Mormon.
The way Malkovich over enunciates makes him perfect for angry roles.
The best "I'm not fired, I quit!" scene in film history.
This is the opening scene so at first you feel bad for Ozzy for being fired over an alleged drinking problem. However, it’s later revealed that the guys were right about him 🤣✋
His arms when he says crucifixion, lol. Never even noticed the first time I watched it.
Nothing in this escene is left to chance. So typical of the Coen. For Ozzy to say that he knows Olsen by reputation (which clearly suggests that Olsen is there in case Ozzy gets aggressive) is backed by Olsen's location (behind Ozzy). The disposition is clear, Palmer communicates, Peck is there to negotiate and talk and Olsen to use force. A spectacular scene, of a really great movie.
I have genuinely been sitting here for years thinking that he just wanted to watch him get canned.
It's actually clear albeit subtle as the movie goes on that Olsen is surveillance, maybe for the CIA equivalent of Internal Affairs. He's the one who reports Chad getting killed at Ozzie's house, which infers later that he's the one that shot Ozzie as he was killing Mr. Hard Bodies.
it doesn't clearly say that. its left ambiguous.
malkovich should have got the oscar for how he exited the room
I really liked him in that jewel heist movie.
I gave this exact same speech when I was fired from Target.
For smoking weed in the parking lot.
The look he gives after 1:20 when accused of a drinking problem screams drinking problem!
Then again what would be the response if he didn't have a drinking problem? If you tell someone they are insane, how can they provide evidence that they are sane? By saying they are?
@@PresidentialWinner Hmmm. Sounds like you have a drinking problem too...
@@PresidentialWinner You have a drinking problem
Holy crap the look on his face as he says that!!! My god I'm laughing out loud! I have a drinking problem?!? Malkovich's best scene ever in his career. Priceless.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr Hmmm. Sounds like you are projecting your own drinking problem onto others.
At 0:29 Malkovich is standing behind the chair, then the camera angle shifts and he's suddenly in front of the chair.
This was actually a reference to some obscure film both directors love. They mention it very briefly on the commentary
Good catch!
2:01 when there is something on a test that we dint learn
Best response to when you get called in to be demoted or reprimanded
:-)) you would be be canned by the end of the week.
"No discussion?"
"We're having the discussion right now."
I know this is a comedy but that absolutely triggered me. Like, no we're fucking not having a dicusssion; how dare you call this a discussion?
We all know of someone like Osbourne. Look, it's true that maybe Osbourne is the victim of office politics, but given his reaction, and the reaction of him to almost everyone else in the film, he seems unhinged and very likely to take offence to even slightly perceived slights and honestly sounds like a pain to work with. We've all had colleagues like this - they think they're god's gift to the world despite mediocre work, any and all problems or complications are due to someone else, they constantly talk trash about others and deride their abilities, but when they fail to perform, it's "persecution", it's "circumstances outside of my control", it's "backstabbers" etc.
People like Osbourne go through life thinking that everyone its out to get them, without realising that the reason why everyone hates them is... well... because they're not a good person. I had a family member who, at every singe job, they made enemies with just about everyone. They never got along with anyone and it was always "everyone is out to get me" - job after job after job - apparently never had a good co-worker, never had a good boss, never was treated fairly by anyone, ever.
Having lived in the same universe as this person and managed to get along with almost everyone I ever met, I have to say that if you go through life making enemies at every work place, perhaps the problem isn't "everyone else", perhaps the problem is you.
I don't think that being difficult to work with should be a fireable offense. But if that's the kind of workplace you want to work at, that's your call. To each, his own.
Well I see where you're going with this and I actually met people like that, however, I actually do not blame them - there is so much lunacy absurds and imbeciles around trying to push work off their desk and put somebody as a scapegoat, there are so many nonsense comments conclusions tasks etc. that for somebody with critical thinking and some constructive logic behind it is very hard to accept to the point of mania when somebody tries to bullshit you. Which is pretty much what's happening all the time all over the place, life is a theater of smaller and bigger roles none of which matter actually. An analyst like the coders or engineers is susceptive to judge people by the bullshit they create around them and havoc they generate. So anyway I sympathize with Osbourne here, cuz the funny thing is probably he's right. Of course when it comes to layoffs and cost cutting he is the first one to shove out. Not a very likable type, but without people like him the level of lunacy goes to the next level typically. I myself have my own company which advises managements, supervisory boards, owners on their strategies, all aspects of financial and operational management and I can tell you sometimes simple logical conclusions that are absent in the companies are amazingly obvious to everybody suddenly but everybody has their own little agenda. Typically I observe that within a given company there's always one or two people max who know what the fuck is going on and really understand the client's business background and model. Very often they are outside any management, cuz there are not likable they speak out the brutal truth loud and for that simple reason they are outside anything that's important in the company but they are irreplaceable. I would not commit to say that Osbourne is such a type cuz we know from the other scenes in the movie he's level 3 clearance so he's a little pawn here and it is indeed sarcastic here that he overplays crucifixion and political agenda whereas the brutal truth here is just he's easily expandable from the team. Nonetheless I sometimes need to identify very quickly within clients crew who these expendable ones and who these irreplaceable ones are and sometimes it is very easy to make a mistake. However I agree with you on this one - many people have far too much ego driven personalities and they simply do not understand they are just as expendable as anybody else - at the end of the day we are all just tools for a given purpose and even management boards or supervisory boards are tools. Even equity owners are in the management's hands sometimes. Understanding that you're not special but just a small cog in a wheel is the beginning of a pretty good life and a pretty fruitful career from my experience. Grotesquely I can tell you that despite sometimes very complex strategy rollouts or financial restructurings I could summarize my role as an advisor to this - making all claimants more mindful about themselves about their role in life and interaction with other people around. And this mindfulness ego discussion sometimes makes people open their eyes wide and see things from completely different perspectives. Not always it is successful but very many times it is oiling the cogs in the wheel back again and that alone is sufficient enough. Funny. P.S. I often explore the scene from Moneyball when Brad Pitt as the manager talks to Old Man Dave Justice honestly about his new role - this is a briliant summary of people's self perception and actual role they play.
When he's trying to be in a spy film and says "Olson, I know by... reputation", his boss just fully laughs at him behind his back. You ain't getting anywhere if everyone just thinks you're a dullard, and the temper tantrums are even worse. It doesn't matter if he's a "good fucking analyst" (probably way overvalues himself), there's plenty of good analysts in that department already who aren't unstable and delusional.
If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes, as they say. He's always losing his marbles over inconsequential shit that an adult should be able to resolve easily.
"Look, it's true that maybe Osbourne is the victim of office politics"
Um, no?
He really is just an incompetent drunk.
He then develops a persecution complex, because that's what in-denial addicts do.
Sir this is a Wendy’s
Love when Olson raises his eyebrows after Cox exits
I was born and raised in DC. As an adult, I did contract work with the Department of Defense, Justice, DARPA, DLA, etc., so I circulated directly or indirectly on the periphery of many scenes like this one. I remember one time, back in the early 90s, I was tasked to do some software upgrades on some computers over at the Pentagon. I opened the door to a nondescript room in one of the inner rings only to find an incredible small office space measuring about 30 feet by about 15 feet. In that confined area something like 10 desks were crammed together so tightly that you had to turn side ways to make your way across the room. As I walked through the door, one of the room's occupants was in mid-lunge, clamoring over his desk in the process of assailing one of his co-workers. He was screaming "You stabbed me in the back you son of a bitch!" over and over. I turned around, walked back out of the office and quietly closed the door behind me. When I got back to my home office, which was over in the Skyline Plaza in Bailey's Crossroads, I updated my manager on the day's installs. "What about room such-and-such?", he asked. "Well, when I stopped by there was an assault in progress that may have morphed into a homicide, so I didn't really feel comfortable going back there when I finished up with the other assignments", I replied. My supervisor frowned, looked down at his desk and said "Well, it IS the Pentagon, after all. Where do you think they would fight, at the National Basilica???" That's the moment when I realized working for the government, and DOD in particular, was definitely not what it was made out to be, and that's pretty much true for most of DC. While there are some good, talented, trustworthy professionals in DC, the vast majority are career opportunists, corrupt, narcissistic, egotistical, overly-indulged and certainly over-paid for what little work they actually do. When I was working for FDIC, I would monitor the "flex timers", these were the people who were allowed to start work at 6 or 6:30AM who would then leave around 3PM or so. One of FDIC's more senior administrators was curious, so I was tasked with d coming in early and monitoring network activity. The administrator suspected that the flex-timers weren't really doing much work and he was right. Most flexers came in, logged onto the network and then their node would go silent. I would drop by their office and find their desks vacant. Heading over to the on-site galley, I would usually find them enjoying a leisurely, sumptuous breakfast as they casually read the Washington Compost of The New York Slimes. Then they'd head back to their offices and balance their checkbooks, surf the Internet for whatever it was they were looking to buy, etc. They didn't actually start working till 9 or 10AM, when their bosses came in. Then they would shut down around 11AM for lunch, log back in around 1, do a couple hours work before leaving for the day around 3. On any given day, they only put in about 4 hours worth of actual work. Then there were the smug, arrogant narcissistic personalities who thought they were so clever that they could lie to or deceive whomever they wanted and get away with it, like George Clooney's character. Man I'm glad I'm out of that unholy city of depravity and deception.
That's actually a really cool story, thanks for sharing man, I live for stories like that.
Loved this thank you
You are good at this
Hi
I could rant on about working for the state of Minnesota MSOCS. Talk about corrupt and colossal waste of tax payer dollars.
Burn after reading...
No year has passed without my watching it since it came out!
Stupidly good.
This & his hosting of SNL his how my young son knows JM. Don't think he's ever seen a serious role. Reminds me I think Man in the Iron Mask is on HBO. Gabriel Bryne told a good story about working on that.
Peck looks like a male version of Ozzy's wife
Best part is after all this he went straight home and made a drink!! LOLOLOLOLOL
Elrique Suave spoilers ...lol
well deserved
This funny scene reminds me of another funny CIA scene in a different movie. Charlie Wilson's War. When Phillip Seymour Hoffman was told he lost his CIA desk of Iceland or something. And he broke the window. Twice.
im sure one copied the other
I've had to approach 4 friends about their drinking problems over the past 30 years.
Every single one of them reacted this way.
Two of them got help and are much happier now. One drank himself to death (literally). One cut ties with all her friends and I have no idea what happened to her.
Palmer is the perfect bureaucratic manager.
The side eye at Olson is the best part for me.
"Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich." - Malkovich
- um, Osbourne Cox
- Yeah, I....
- are you with.....? Is he...?
- Yeah, that's right!
THIS IS A CRUCIFIXTION.
And why is Olson here!?
Goes home, midday, starts power drinking.
A glimpse of Karl before he joined Waystar Royco.
The ending of this movie is hysterically funny
Damn, that was such a good movie and it just reminded me that its probably time to watch it again.
I'm so happy Sledge Hammer survived the explosion
I love this movie so much I think I watch it at least once a month, without fail. Its become the "you fucker" movie.....a phrase repeated by most of its actors. I now use it as a term of endearment. Thank you, Coen brothers.
Last year in New Orleans I saw Malkovich driving a rental car alongside our street car.
I was in that car! I saw you, too!
Was he drinking??
This scene plays in my head at random at least once a day. Complete with the T-Pose and all.
One of my favorite Coen movies!
When John Malkovich plays a comedy character, my guess is he uses his strabismus as histrionical resource
Malkovich‘S facial expressions are hilarious
"You're a mormon. Next to you we all have a drinking problem" 😂😂😂😂
A major unanswered question from this scene; why WAS Olson there?
In case Oz gets violent
Probably OIG
Love the way Cox wipes his eyes and then touches his head with his finger tips.
how he moves his hand to make the cross lmao, fuckin genius
As someone who doesn't drink. heheh. I too feel like people that drink have a "drinking problem".
Walking sounds in this movie vs. Walking sounds in Half Life. Who wins?
Wonderful 👏
"You're a Mormon." As an ex Mormon, I'm in tears. I grew up in that cult and left at the age of reason.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Hell yeah. Thank you 🤘
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No problem, I'm glad you were able to find peace and harmony by reconverting to Mormonism.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Yes, sir. Thank you. Hail, Kolob.
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Sure, _"Hail Kolob"_ or whatever, I'm not Mormon so I wouldn't know; I just live in the cesspool of a Salt Lake City that was ruined by people like yourself who did everything they could to culturally undermine it out of spite for the religion they live to hate. I'm glad though that you were able to grow out of that infantile contrarianism and find your way back to being a productive member of majority-LDS society instead of an edgy ass hole obsessed with destroying everything they built because daddy made you go to church.
Congratulations on emerging from adolescence and reintegrating into their community. It may not be my own but, I feel everyone's gotta have a tribe and I'm happy you've matured enough to get over petty differences and reunite with yours. You're an odd people and, disturbingly prone to smiling smiles that set me on edge but, you seem a wholesome bunch and I'm glad you can finally be happy together again.
Have a good one, Prodigal Son; I'm glad you chose genuine joy and purpose by choosing to return home.
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Sure, _"Hail Kolob"_ or whatever, I'm not Mormon so I wouldn't know; I just live in a cesspool of a Salt Lake City that was ruined by people like yourself who did everything they could to undermine it out of spite for the religion they live to hate. I'm glad though that you were able to grow out of that infantile contrarianism and find your way back to being a productive member of majority-LDS society instead of an edgy douche obsessed with destroying everything they built because daddy made you go to church.
Congratulations on emerging from adolescence and reintegrating into their community. It may not be my own but, I feel everyone's gotta have a tribe and I'm happy you matured enough to get over petty differences and reunite with yours. You're an odd people and, disturbingly prone to smiling smiles that set me on edge but, you seem a wholesome people and I'm glad you can finally be happy together again.
Have a good one, Prodigal Son; I'm glad you chose genuine happiness by choosing to return home.
I also didn’t know, why is Olsen here?
year later after re watching this, this an EXCELLENT underappreciated movie
Hi guys, what movie is it?
The guy sitting in the back of the room is the most dangerous one. He's the hatchet man.
He's always the most dangerous one.
literally me every day at work
Same!!!!!!
What you do? Lol
One of the best dark comedies ever
I assume Olson was supposed to be a field agent that his mere presence there he takes like an insult.
Probably the CIA equivalent of having a security guard when you are getting fired to make sure you don't do anything.
I watch this everyday... I mean EVERYDAY ❤❤
The subtitles on this video have made the last year of Danish duolingo worth it #random
I absolutely love this movie.
Funny thing is anyone and everyone is expendable in this world if they don't engage in office politics. It's a world that prides itself on performance, but it would cut off its left arm just to send a message and show who the boss is. Intelligence never knows who the irreplaceable people are until they are gone.
Even irreplacable people are replaceable if they make enough people miserable.
You might be objectively great at what you do, but if you make everyone else not want to come to work every day, then you're not nearly as valuable as you might think.
@@thevoxdeus but those people you just give a niche project to work on on their own. Of course depending on how toxic they are...
They should make a whole movie of just these office conversations at Langley.
The look the guy gives at the end lol
Anyone know who the Olson guy was?? He seemed to give the situation away to Cox.. I assume he serves as a witness for potentially violent firings lol
Probably OIG, Office of Inspector General
Well, I for one am certainly relieved that didn't have to be unpleasant
I just got fired from my five year restaurant job and I reacted exactly like this. Except I got to keep my job by raising a stink.
I suppose the lie that "there was a leak from your department and so we are isolating you and your team until we determine where it came from" just didn't cross their minds.
Mr. Annnnderson
Is that a picture of a ufo/uap hovering infront of the us capital?
Everytime I see the actor behind the desk I think... Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
Malkovich fricking rules. Peay dat mayn he's myoney.
best part is when he doesn't care about almost being terminated but assaulted for drinking problem
This guy is a legend. 🤣🤣🤣
I love this scene! Omg
No one plays an angry man better than Malkovich.
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This movie is perfection.
I love the natural speech in this movie. “Uhm, its uhm, uuh, uhm, well, aah, yes.”
I mean, honestly the fact that Hollywood got away with portraying people as perfectly speaking for decades is crazy if you think about it. We all mess up our sentences, we’re all thinking as we’re speaking, we’re all a little anxious about how our words will be received. That’s normal.
Idk, this movie was just a nice change of pace I guess
Which episode of the office was this in?
Pascal Sauvage from Johnny English. He's great!
one of the best cinematic scenes ive seen and my favorite from the cohens
Anyone sitting next to a Mormon while watching this is like 😬
talking to his boss can said something like 'F*ck you, boss'