Hi, everyone! Thanks for the comments. A quick note on the Almada/Amadora mix up. The city across the river from Lisbon that our friends "warned" us about was Almada and not Amadora. Thank you to those that point it out as Victoria and I were in mid conversation and didn't look up our Lisbon Metro area geography. 🙂 Thanks for your grace on that one. Have a great week, everybody. - Josh
54:03 once I left Portugal to Norway. It was 36°C in Portugal when I left, 4°C in Norway when I arrived. There was a Norwegian in shorts, T-shirt, and flip-flops, in a boat at the middle of the fiords blowing a chilling wind. Amazing. And Norwegians sunbathing on the beach. 😂
24:14 Funny, I'm Portuguese but speak native level English (American). I owe it all to Cartoon Network being a free channel in Portugal for 2 years straight, no PT dubbing. When I have kids I am definitely going to have them on a cartoon diet of sorts (if I want them learning a second language).
We did that with our kids, while living in Germany, we spoke in english and they watched mostly anglo-saxon media. I am bit worried that, now, as young adults, they do not speak portuguese correctly, although we only lived 5 years in southern Germany. They now speak a pidgin portuguese-english, which is not ideal.
@@pedropereira2211 That's interesting in it's own right. If they are interested in becoming fluent in Portuguese (or fixing their non-native habits), have them take a look at a method called the "Refold" method (just google it). It's by far the best method for acquiring a second language to a near-native/native level, and it got me far in my Japanese (not quite native yet, however) even as a young adult myself. Abraço!
27:37 I'll give you an extreme example: I don't ask personal questions to my close friends, family, and relatives. I feel that if they are comfortable they will voluntarily bring up a personal subject that they want to talk about. Like health related stuff. Or work. Or relations. The friend zone is established by sharing personal stuff. If you share personal stuff, you're saying that you consider a friend the person you shared your personal stuff with. We wait for the gift of confidence.
Bravo on the new sound set up. The quality is better and I'm sure means less editing. I loved hearing Victoria's perspective. She is well spoken for a person her age. You are certainly lucky to have her as part of your team. As retirement gets closer I will be hiring a legal representative to help so in the mean time, I'm watching all the videos you crank out. I feel I relate to you well and your content is enjoyable and informative. HI VICTORIA!!!!!!
Pois é. Isto de meter as crianças em escolas internacionais dá nisso. Muita dificuldade em integrar com os amigos portugueses. Quem frequenta normalmente essas escolas internacionais ou são crianças de estrangeiros ou são portugueses de classes sociais muito altas. Essas crianças portugueses são "filhos do papá" meninos riquinhos que têm uma personalidade muito snob. Não há nada como a escola pública onde temos crianças de todos os estratos sociais e de certeza onde a facilidade de encontrar amigos curiosos é muito grande. As crianças devem brincar e interagir com todos, São as melhores experiências que enriquecem e moldam o caráter da criança. Outro assunto referido aqui e que também é verdade. A malta nova usa muito calças de ganga e sapatilhas e t-shirt no verão, no Inverno usam o mesmo para baixo do corpo e para cima colocam uma sweat e um casaco de abrigo Kispo. Sejam felizes em Portugal e vivam a vida.
Isto é tudo verdade, concordo 100% mas filhos de missionários a educação vai ser sempre diferente. Portugueses missionarios no estrangeiro vai ser igual. Mas sem duvida que os estrangeiros aqui perdem se não usarem a escola publica.
As someone born in the eighties and that lived in campo de Ourique that was some 2 to 3 kms from Casal Ventoso the conversation about things being dangerous makes me smile, since i remember how things were in the end of the 90s and very early 2000s, before the liberalization of drugs, and the large amount ofcrimes, with old people being mugged when they were going to the post office to collect their pensions, or guys trying to mug people in the street with syringes saying they had aids and stuff alike . or the number of addicts collapsing in the middle of the street. Guess many forgot about those times or never lived them .
You read my mind!!! People don't have a clue how shitty this pretty country was in the 90's with drugs ramping all over! I'm from the Algarve and my God I don't have any good memories back then! Much but way much more safe now compared to those years
@@zepedro6666 People have no clue, are too young or have very short memory. I was once mugged in front of the igreija de santo condestavel, I was like 13 and the guy - in very rough condition, full of cuts and bruises was surprised I only had like 10 escudos and asking if I didnt had more cause he was going to stab me with an aids infected needle, and I remember answering " I am 13 i go to school it is not like I have a salary", he actually let me go after that . I remember looking back and he was going in the direction of an old lady that was coming out of religious service. this was like in the middle of the afternoon and there were people around, no one did anything.
@@Solrac-Siul Preach! I'm from Faro! Once at the same age of you, 13, I toke the (stupid) decision to go alone, in the middle of the afternoon, to the local fair and boy oh boy I was mugged and beaten by 5 guys despite I had nothing on me! Plus other occasions similar things like that happened or worst that I just lost count! My family had a small coffe shop thats robbed so many times that in end we didn´t bother call the police! The times that the police and ambulances came to my school I just don't remember how many anymore!
Portuguese have always had quite a bit more exposure to American culture than other europeans, at least if we're talking about people in their 50s, 40s, 30s. My generation grew up in the 80s and 90s listening mostly to american music and american tv shows and cartoons that were not dubbed. I know for a fact that other europeans did not consume as much american media content as we did. When I was growing up, America was THE place to be, where all the cool stuff came from. I remember that started gradually changing in the late 90s and early 2000s due to a significant shift in american politics.
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You're confusing Almada with Amadora. Almada is the one below the river, just before crossing the bridge (nourthbound). Almada is not nearly as problematic as Amadora, but it has its share of criminality-related issues.
There is a 2...3 year application Vortex, on the citizen application submission . This is after the 5 year period. This is because of an almost 2 million applications submitted recently.
Pre-covid it was 6 months. Currently, it's 2 years. Per Portuguese law, one could conceivable hit their 5 year period, apply for citizenship and go somewhere else in the meantime. We just spoke to a lawyer about this stuff this morning as we prepare to have him on the podcast soon. - Josh
it was Almada and not Amadora that you´ve passed before Ponte 25 de Abril, anyway Amadora it´s not that dangerous since it´s mainly a dormitory city after 21:30 people just vanish from his streets somehow like in similar areas of Gaia or other sattelite cities around Porto.
Isso também acontece nas aldeias, a partir das 8 horas não se vê ninguém nas ruas,principalmente no inverno,agora a maioria anda de carro,não andam a pé
E não temos bairros sociais nem gangues nas aldeias, é porque as pessoas não convivem como antigamente, pessoas idosas, emigração, juventude mais solitária
@@saragomes6242as aldeias não têm gangs porque a maior parte da população das aldeias são idosos. Talvez que agora que os imigrantes estão a descobrir q podem comprar casas de menos de € 50.000 e remodela-las haja esperança de vida para todas as aldeias semi-desertas do interior.
20:33 I have some foreigners at my workout group, but I don't see them as foreigners, I see them as my team members. The PT is Brazilian, but after 10 years I just see him as the cool guy that directs the class. Same for the other members of the class, I just see them as some awesome women that I love to workout with. We seldomly talk about foreign related stuff, unless it's something on the news about one of their countries.
Hmmm suspiciously right when you were talking about the voices not matching the mouths, the video's audio got shifted by a second. Very clever editing?
47:39 my company is located at Amadora. Some 20 years ago we used to pay to the PSP to have a policeman at the door (it's called "gratificados"). For over 10 to 15 years that we never had to resort to having a policeman at the door. So, Amadora was problematic some 20 years ago, but it has been "ok" for the last 15 years.
Yea, I think certain places get a reputation and then a story gets told about it like Colombia is synonymous for drugs for kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s but we know people that have moved there now and they love it and don't speak about any of those issues from the past. - Josh
In Porto to ask for a cofee you can ask for a " Cimbalino" wich was the cofee taken from the machines branded "La Cimballi", we use Macdonalds to refer to hamburguers at any time.
Hi Josh, Amadora is in between Lisbon and Sintra, right outside the city when you head to sintra. Probably the name of the city your friends mentioned was "Almada", which is a city on the south side of the tagus River ( like Gaia ). I would say that attending a Portuguese school or university it's the easiest way to make friends and integrate in the society. Nice to see Victoria's face :) Cheers.
We have 3 kids across three different school ages, and the social aspect is definitely concerning but the reality of life in the US right now is that we already don't fit in here, and our kids don't fit in either with their social peers. So there's not a whole lot to lose...
For real Josh, Victoria is good with her pronouncing of Portuguese words. No need to be shy if you can walk the walk. It’s not a topic for this video, and I don’t know if you and Kaylee have approached the topic, but I’d be interested in hearing you guys comment on how politics feel different or similar to the US. You guys know how to do it in a non judgemental way. It’s just that most Portuguese natives have a constructed image of how things work there, but it’s not something that can be sanitised unless you spend a few good years immersed in the culture. The same will be true for Americans about Portugal. The reason why I say this is that politics shape most things in our lives, you need to go away from civilisation completely to have a chance of that not affecting your lives. I get that you don’t have a lot of political cycles under your belt, but maybe you can already tell us how you see that side of life in Portugal. A fresh perspective is always welcomed. It shows us how we come across to others. Nice touch bringing Victoria over. I must say that the video editing looks very good. No expert here, but I didn’t pick up on any flaws.
Living in the US politics is pure hell. Every day of every year is constant political messaging and campaigning with horrible toxic messaging and lies. Government policies have a huge impact on people's lives as well, often for the benefit for the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
This young Lady have take a shot of"portugalety" 😉 all of you are great and you know that you are very welcome here, saúde e paz é tudo o que desejo para vocês e todos nós.
Como portuguesa, tento adequar a "toilette" não só, ao clima/temperatura/estação do ano do local onde estou, mas também às circunstâncias mais ou menos formais, assim sendo, uma coisa é estar de férias na praia ou campo, outra é estar de férias (ou não) na cidade... Considero ainda, ser boa ideia adequar a indumentária à "cultura" local, quando estou em viajem no estrangeiro, especialmente em certos destinos (culturas, entenda-se), não pretendo fantasiar-me de "local" mas tenho o cuidado de não ferir "susceptibilidades"). E sim,...é-me muito fácil identificar os brasileiros apenas pela roupa (a maioria deles, habituados a temperaturas superiores a 20°C durante todo o ano), inseparáveis das "havaianas", "shorts" e "T-shirts", mesmo em dias de chuva (nem precisam abrir a boca...😂)
It is easy for me to spot Americans as they (similarly to Brazilians) like to wear sandals and shorts. But funny enough, I am more comfortable dressing like the Portuguese 😂 - Victoria
Studying at home without the social interaction inherent to age is a process of self-isolation, adding, I believe, that the vast majority of young Europeans are not at all interested in biblical studies.
Hey Antonio! Even though I studied online, I was involved quite a bit in the Portuguese community in other ways. Also, in my experience the Portuguese are curious about my area of study. - Victoria
We think we do one another a big service by being politically correct on why Portugal may feel less safe in the last few years...but we are really not. This obsession with political correctness will boil over in a couple of decades, but the damage done to countries and culture's may remain. I understand people not wanting to get political.....but I think people with a good heart and good intentions specially..........tend to be gaslit in this current climate in the West.....for simply understanding the KIND of immigration that....out of NOWHERE became so popular. Immigration has happened throughout human history, including in Portugal. Immigration in itself is not a problem. But no one wants to ask WHY this particular kind of immigration became popular in the last 15 (or so) years. As if it's somehow an ORGANIC thing. It's not. And there people in power that know this.
People recently in power... want to increase today in the parlment the weeks for IVG the same law that lead to all this migration. Never in my life I seen just an irresponsable party
My guess is that the main barrier this young lady had is that her family came to proselytize, and they are missionaries. Not that they are Americans. The Portuguese in general are standoffish with missionaries. I don't see that changing.
Hey! Just wanted to clarify that we are not here to proselytize, because our beliefs are mainly the same as the Portuguese. Maybe "missionary" wasn't the right word. And most of our work is with the international community. - Victoria
Por exemplo vocês vão com frequência ver o FC Porto e isso é uma das maneiras de se envolver com a comunidade local. Talvez antes ou depois jogos ir comer algo com portugueses etc.
No Josh you are confusing Almada with Amadora. Amadora is when Lisbon ends in the side of the Benfica neihboor , its a big city and yes is well known to be a tricky city in crime terms, I mean you can go there and in some parts its just a normal city, but there are more crime there for sure, main causes are drug gangs but this extends through all the Sintra IC19 route up to Sintra, Sintra then is excluded... there are obvioulsly some inner reasons most of them it was after the extintion of the Portuguese colonies that a lot of People from 40 years ago began to builts houses there , this was densified a lot without to much concern and rules from the central goverment, a lot of not legal housing went there with some legal construction but massified to be cheap, most poor people went there because it was near Lisbon but cheap, and a lot but a lot of the african colonies people natives and returned Portuguese went to live there, so this areas have been always less treated and badly planed , less green spaces, more high buildings less cared zones that have been largelly densified, even today because of this all this IC 19 route beguining Amadora to Cacem and Mira Sintra who will see a lot of african People , then more densified zones, and when Poverty concetrates with scarced oportunities to young people, it tends to go to more crime zones, simple as that, but Amadora being more close to Lisbon I would say tends to be where maybe gangs have more base. But has always you can go there and not feel it, but in some zones u can feel it if you enter them for sure. just a word on criminality and why maybe is rising, we have been receiving all kinds of people in the last 10/15 years , much more massivly than before to the point that back 15 years you could see tourists in Portugal mostly northern Europe countries that was normall, but then all of Portugal 10 out of 10 was portuguese, taking only the Algarve and mostly in summer, now i am 53 and foreigners are everywhere, even in any city and even villages now, brasiliens in fact is astounding they are everywhere even in small and small places, even now 3/4 years ago I see asian people in this small cities and villages to, it has been so drastic its even strange how goverments did open so much , and it can be problematic because when this cultures of some places dont integrate and make some getos can lead to big problems because they will never feel this land has their own. but what I wanted to say is when there is a mix of ritch or well living kiind of poeple occupaying some zones and they have things to be stealed so its normal that this zones atract mean people that want what can be taken and so crime evolves...this will be in every society, when goods and posetions and not distributed, then there is no balance and it takes some time but when the gap of certain zones begin to be higher and higher with a lot of pockets of poverty and very low chance of survival in near areas then if goverments dont implement well balanced policies and oportunities trouble will come and crime tends to rise.
@@ExpatsEverywherePodcast For you it might be easier... and in a couple of years you will have 20 years of Portugal. I was talking about them... (but I wouldn't delay it for you too)
Somehow in many of your podcasts you don't mention former Portuguese colonies such as Angola, Mozambique, Guînea Bissau, Macao, Goa., Cape Verde, and Brazil and the Portugueses attitude towards the people from these places. There was an attempt to unify Portuguese under some sort of standardization, but it was not fully adopted by the Portuguese. As a note, there are 240 million speakers of Brazilian Portuguese and only about 40 million speakers of continental Portuguese. Only 2 or 3 universities teach continental Portuguese here in the US. All the rest who teach it teach Brazilian Portuguese. You have never touched upon the attitudes the Portuguese have about people of color, and foreigners in general. By the way, the Portuguese made much of their wealth in the slave trade in the 17th and 18th century. There seems to be a sense of amnesia about this country who was engaged in brutal colonial wars in both Angola and Mozambique.. In addition, a country that was ruled by a dictator, Salazar, for 40 years, keeping the country in virtual poverty and isolation. Please, let's be real here. This is not Disney. The country has a history that cannot be ignored!
Why are you even remotly interested in watching a video about such an horrible nation then? Do you need to feed your own hate from time to time, otherwise you run out of hate?
What do you hope to accomplish by having such a conversation? What does any of this have to do with Americans? None of the ex-pats on UA-cam are equipped for this type of conversation. It sounds like you bring a lot of racial baggage from your home country that you are chomping at the bit to infuse into a discussion about Portugal.
I'm just saying that it's important to understand history of any country and how the attitudes of any give any country is influenced by it. I have listened to many pod casts where no one ever mention history. Zuka?
Hi, everyone! Thanks for the comments. A quick note on the Almada/Amadora mix up. The city across the river from Lisbon that our friends "warned" us about was Almada and not Amadora. Thank you to those that point it out as Victoria and I were in mid conversation and didn't look up our Lisbon Metro area geography. 🙂 Thanks for your grace on that one. Have a great week, everybody. - Josh
54:03 once I left Portugal to Norway. It was 36°C in Portugal when I left, 4°C in Norway when I arrived. There was a Norwegian in shorts, T-shirt, and flip-flops, in a boat at the middle of the fiords blowing a chilling wind. Amazing. And Norwegians sunbathing on the beach. 😂
Humidity plays an important part of it.
So funny! Some people are built different. - Josh
I noticed the same thing when I lived in Minnesota! It really does feel warm after a winter of sub-zero temperatures!
24:14 Funny, I'm Portuguese but speak native level English (American). I owe it all to Cartoon Network being a free channel in Portugal for 2 years straight, no PT dubbing. When I have kids I am definitely going to have them on a cartoon diet of sorts (if I want them learning a second language).
We did that with our kids, while living in Germany, we spoke in english and they watched mostly anglo-saxon media.
I am bit worried that, now, as young adults, they do not speak portuguese correctly, although we only lived 5 years in southern Germany.
They now speak a pidgin portuguese-english, which is not ideal.
That's great. Cartoon Network was another cartoon I definitely watched growing up that helped me learn Portuguese!
- Victoria
@@pedropereira2211 That's interesting in it's own right. If they are interested in becoming fluent in Portuguese (or fixing their non-native habits), have them take a look at a method called the "Refold" method (just google it). It's by far the best method for acquiring a second language to a near-native/native level, and it got me far in my Japanese (not quite native yet, however) even as a young adult myself. Abraço!
27:37 I'll give you an extreme example: I don't ask personal questions to my close friends, family, and relatives. I feel that if they are comfortable they will voluntarily bring up a personal subject that they want to talk about.
Like health related stuff. Or work. Or relations.
The friend zone is established by sharing personal stuff. If you share personal stuff, you're saying that you consider a friend the person you shared your personal stuff with.
We wait for the gift of confidence.
That's an interesting insight! And it is something that I have found to be true as well. - Victoria
Bravo on the new sound set up. The quality is better and I'm sure means less editing.
I loved hearing Victoria's perspective. She is well spoken for a person her age. You are certainly lucky to have her as part of your team.
As retirement gets closer I will be hiring a legal representative to help so in the mean time, I'm watching all the videos you crank out. I feel I relate to you well and your content is enjoyable and informative.
HI VICTORIA!!!!!!
HI! And thank you :D - Victoria
Pois é. Isto de meter as crianças em escolas internacionais dá nisso. Muita dificuldade em integrar com os amigos portugueses. Quem frequenta normalmente essas escolas internacionais ou são crianças de estrangeiros ou são portugueses de classes sociais muito altas. Essas crianças portugueses são "filhos do papá" meninos riquinhos que têm uma personalidade muito snob. Não há nada como a escola pública onde temos crianças de todos os estratos sociais e de certeza onde a facilidade de encontrar amigos curiosos é muito grande. As crianças devem brincar e interagir com todos, São as melhores experiências que enriquecem e moldam o caráter da criança.
Outro assunto referido aqui e que também é verdade. A malta nova usa muito calças de ganga e sapatilhas e t-shirt no verão, no Inverno usam o mesmo para baixo do corpo e para cima colocam uma sweat e um casaco de abrigo Kispo.
Sejam felizes em Portugal e vivam a vida.
Isto é tudo verdade, concordo 100% mas filhos de missionários a educação vai ser sempre diferente. Portugueses missionarios no estrangeiro vai ser igual. Mas sem duvida que os estrangeiros aqui perdem se não usarem a escola publica.
As someone born in the eighties and that lived in campo de Ourique that was some 2 to 3 kms from Casal Ventoso the conversation about things being dangerous makes me smile, since i remember how things were in the end of the 90s and very early 2000s, before the liberalization of drugs, and the large amount ofcrimes, with old people being mugged when they were going to the post office to collect their pensions, or guys trying to mug people in the street with syringes saying they had aids and stuff alike . or the number of addicts collapsing in the middle of the street. Guess many forgot about those times or never lived them .
You read my mind!!! People don't have a clue how shitty this pretty country was in the 90's with drugs ramping all over! I'm from the Algarve and my God I don't have any good memories back then! Much but way much more safe now compared to those years
@@zepedro6666 People have no clue, are too young or have very short memory. I was once mugged in front of the igreija de santo condestavel, I was like 13 and the guy - in very rough condition, full of cuts and bruises was surprised I only had like 10 escudos and asking if I didnt had more cause he was going to stab me with an aids infected needle, and I remember answering " I am 13 i go to school it is not like I have a salary", he actually let me go after that . I remember looking back and he was going in the direction of an old lady that was coming out of religious service. this was like in the middle of the afternoon and there were people around, no one did anything.
Late 90's were wonderful compared to eary 90's or 80's.
On the other hand rural areas like Alentejo were like Paradise on earth in the 80's
@@Solrac-Siul Preach! I'm from Faro! Once at the same age of you, 13, I toke the (stupid) decision to go alone, in the middle of the afternoon, to the local fair and boy oh boy I was mugged and beaten by 5 guys despite I had nothing on me! Plus other occasions similar things like that happened or worst that I just lost count! My family had a small coffe shop thats robbed so many times that in end we didn´t bother call the police! The times that the police and ambulances came to my school I just don't remember how many anymore!
@@lxportugal9343 Lucky you!!! Not in the cities!
Portuguese have always had quite a bit more exposure to American culture than other europeans, at least if we're talking about people in their 50s, 40s, 30s. My generation grew up in the 80s and 90s listening mostly to american music and american tv shows and cartoons that were not dubbed. I know for a fact that other europeans did not consume as much american media content as we did. When I was growing up, America was THE place to be, where all the cool stuff came from. I remember that started gradually changing in the late 90s and early 2000s due to a significant shift in american politics.
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You're confusing Almada with Amadora. Almada is the one below the river, just before crossing the bridge (nourthbound). Almada is not nearly as problematic as Amadora, but it has its share of criminality-related issues.
There is a 2...3 year application Vortex, on the citizen application submission . This is after the 5 year period. This is because of an almost 2 million applications submitted recently.
Pre-covid it was 6 months. Currently, it's 2 years. Per Portuguese law, one could conceivable hit their 5 year period, apply for citizenship and go somewhere else in the meantime. We just spoke to a lawyer about this stuff this morning as we prepare to have him on the podcast soon. - Josh
47:15 Amadora is close to Lisbon. Amora is the other size de river close to Almada
it was Almada and not Amadora that you´ve passed before Ponte 25 de Abril, anyway Amadora it´s not that dangerous since it´s mainly a dormitory city after 21:30 people just vanish from his streets somehow like in similar areas of Gaia or other sattelite cities around Porto.
Isso também acontece nas aldeias, a partir das 8 horas não se vê ninguém nas ruas,principalmente no inverno,agora a maioria anda de carro,não andam a pé
E não temos bairros sociais nem gangues nas aldeias, é porque as pessoas não convivem como antigamente, pessoas idosas, emigração, juventude mais solitária
Thank you, yes, it was Almada that I was referring to. I'm not sure if Victoria meant Almada or Amadora though. Maybe she can chime in. - Josh
@@saragomes6242as aldeias não têm gangs porque a maior parte da população das aldeias são idosos. Talvez que agora que os imigrantes estão a descobrir q podem comprar casas de menos de € 50.000 e remodela-las haja esperança de vida para todas as aldeias semi-desertas do interior.
Hi! Yes it was Amadora I was talking about. - Victoria
20:33 I have some foreigners at my workout group, but I don't see them as foreigners, I see them as my team members. The PT is Brazilian, but after 10 years I just see him as the cool guy that directs the class. Same for the other members of the class, I just see them as some awesome women that I love to workout with. We seldomly talk about foreign related stuff, unless it's something on the news about one of their countries.
Well, I only have bad experiences with Portugese (as a tourist) but one can always return to the US
Wow, that's not common. - Josh & Kalie
Black & Decker, X-acto, Gillete, Bic...brands that we call by name
56:52 old?! You're not old!!! Old is my mother, at 96yo!!! 😂
HAHA! Nah, 40s aren't old. I know. - Josh
Hmmm suspiciously right when you were talking about the voices not matching the mouths, the video's audio got shifted by a second. Very clever editing?
47:39 my company is located at Amadora. Some 20 years ago we used to pay to the PSP to have a policeman at the door (it's called "gratificados"). For over 10 to 15 years that we never had to resort to having a policeman at the door.
So, Amadora was problematic some 20 years ago, but it has been "ok" for the last 15 years.
Yea, I think certain places get a reputation and then a story gets told about it like Colombia is synonymous for drugs for kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s but we know people that have moved there now and they love it and don't speak about any of those issues from the past. - Josh
All Amadora ?
In Porto to ask for a cofee you can ask for a " Cimbalino" wich was the cofee taken from the machines branded "La Cimballi", we use Macdonalds to refer to hamburguers at any time.
52:06 I'm 56yo... since the pandemic I almost live in shorts, even at Winter time with temperatures below 10°C. 😂
Hi Josh, Amadora is in between Lisbon and Sintra, right outside the city when you head to sintra. Probably the name of the city your friends mentioned was "Almada", which is a city on the south side of the tagus River ( like Gaia ).
I would say that attending a Portuguese school or university it's the easiest way to make friends and integrate in the society.
Nice to see Victoria's face :)
Cheers.
Yep! It was Almada that I was referring to and not Amadora. I'm not sure however if Victoria meant Amadora or not. Let's see what she says. - Josh
Hi! Yes it was Amadora I was referring to. And thank you @bernardopiano7153 - Victoria
Let’s get some Portuguese phrases and expression lessons from Victoria! ✨
That could be fun! - Victoria
Victoria your friends don't ask cause you are one of us now. Once you speak perfect portuguese, you are not a foreigner anymore
We have 3 kids across three different school ages, and the social aspect is definitely concerning but the reality of life in the US right now is that we already don't fit in here, and our kids don't fit in either with their social peers. So there's not a whole lot to lose...
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For real Josh, Victoria is good with her pronouncing of Portuguese words. No need to be shy if you can walk the walk. It’s not a topic for this video, and I don’t know if you and Kaylee have approached the topic, but I’d be interested in hearing you guys comment on how politics feel different or similar to the US. You guys know how to do it in a non judgemental way. It’s just that most Portuguese natives have a constructed image of how things work there, but it’s not something that can be sanitised unless you spend a few good years immersed in the culture. The same will be true for Americans about Portugal. The reason why I say this is that politics shape most things in our lives, you need to go away from civilisation completely to have a chance of that not affecting your lives. I get that you don’t have a lot of political cycles under your belt, but maybe you can already tell us how you see that side of life in Portugal. A fresh perspective is always welcomed. It shows us how we come across to others.
Nice touch bringing Victoria over. I must say that the video editing looks very good. No expert here, but I didn’t pick up on any flaws.
Living in the US politics is pure hell. Every day of every year is constant political messaging and campaigning with horrible toxic messaging and lies. Government policies have a huge impact on people's lives as well, often for the benefit for the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
Thank you! Some people have said that I speak like a native, but I don't really see it haha 😅 - Victoria
This young Lady have take a shot of"portugalety" 😉 all of you are great and you know that you are very welcome here, saúde e paz é tudo o que desejo para vocês e todos nós.
Muito obrigada! - Victoria
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Como portuguesa, tento adequar a "toilette" não só, ao clima/temperatura/estação do ano do local onde estou, mas também às circunstâncias mais ou menos formais, assim sendo, uma coisa é estar de férias na praia ou campo, outra é estar de férias (ou não) na cidade...
Considero ainda, ser boa ideia adequar a indumentária à "cultura" local, quando estou em viajem no estrangeiro, especialmente em certos destinos (culturas, entenda-se), não pretendo fantasiar-me de "local" mas tenho o cuidado de não ferir "susceptibilidades").
E sim,...é-me muito fácil identificar os brasileiros apenas pela roupa (a maioria deles, habituados a temperaturas superiores a 20°C durante todo o ano), inseparáveis das "havaianas", "shorts" e "T-shirts", mesmo em dias de chuva (nem precisam abrir a boca...😂)
It is easy for me to spot Americans as they (similarly to Brazilians) like to wear sandals and shorts. But funny enough, I am more comfortable dressing like the Portuguese 😂 - Victoria
If she speaks perfect Portuguese, no one will ask where she is from
Studying at home without the social interaction inherent to age is a process of self-isolation, adding, I believe, that the vast majority of young Europeans are not at all interested in biblical studies.
Hey Antonio! Even though I studied online, I was involved quite a bit in the Portuguese community in other ways. Also, in my experience the Portuguese are curious about my area of study. - Victoria
We think we do one another a big service by being politically correct on why Portugal may feel less safe in the last few years...but we are really not. This obsession with political correctness will boil over in a couple of decades, but the damage done to countries and culture's may remain. I understand people not wanting to get political.....but I think people with a good heart and good intentions specially..........tend to be gaslit in this current climate in the West.....for simply understanding the KIND of immigration that....out of NOWHERE became so popular.
Immigration has happened throughout human history, including in Portugal. Immigration in itself is not a problem. But no one wants to ask WHY this particular kind of immigration became popular in the last 15 (or so) years. As if it's somehow an ORGANIC thing. It's not. And there people in power that know this.
People recently in power... want to increase today in the parlment the weeks for IVG the same law that lead to all this migration.
Never in my life I seen just an irresponsable party
My guess is that the main barrier this young lady had is that her family came to proselytize, and they are missionaries. Not that they are Americans. The Portuguese in general are standoffish with missionaries. I don't see that changing.
Hey! Just wanted to clarify that we are not here to proselytize, because our beliefs are mainly the same as the Portuguese. Maybe "missionary" wasn't the right word. And most of our work is with the international community. - Victoria
You are gorgeous Victoria.
Por exemplo vocês vão com frequência ver o FC Porto e isso é uma das maneiras de se envolver com a comunidade local. Talvez antes ou depois jogos ir comer algo com portugueses etc.
For sure, or we "pre-game" near the stadium before matches. :-) - Josh
No Josh you are confusing Almada with Amadora. Amadora is when Lisbon ends in the side of the Benfica neihboor , its a big city and yes is well known to be a tricky city in crime terms, I mean you can go there and in some parts its just a normal city, but there are more crime there for sure, main causes are drug gangs but this extends through all the Sintra IC19 route up to Sintra, Sintra then is excluded... there are obvioulsly some inner reasons most of them it was after the extintion of the Portuguese colonies that a lot of People from 40 years ago began to builts houses there , this was densified a lot without to much concern and rules from the central goverment, a lot of not legal housing went there with some legal construction but massified to be cheap, most poor people went there because it was near Lisbon but cheap, and a lot but a lot of the african colonies people natives and returned Portuguese went to live there, so this areas have been always less treated and badly planed , less green spaces, more high buildings less cared zones that have been largelly densified, even today because of this all this IC 19 route beguining Amadora to Cacem and Mira Sintra who will see a lot of african People , then more densified zones, and when Poverty concetrates with scarced oportunities to young people, it tends to go to more crime zones, simple as that, but Amadora being more close to Lisbon I would say tends to be where maybe gangs have more base. But has always you can go there and not feel it, but in some zones u can feel it if you enter them for sure.
just a word on criminality and why maybe is rising, we have been receiving all kinds of people in the last 10/15 years , much more massivly than before to the point that back 15 years you could see tourists in Portugal mostly northern Europe countries that was normall, but then all of Portugal 10 out of 10 was portuguese, taking only the Algarve and mostly in summer, now i am 53 and foreigners are everywhere, even in any city and even villages now, brasiliens in fact is astounding they are everywhere even in small and small places, even now 3/4 years ago I see asian people in this small cities and villages to, it has been so drastic its even strange how goverments did open so much , and it can be problematic because when this cultures of some places dont integrate and make some getos can lead to big problems because they will never feel this land has their own. but what I wanted to say is when there is a mix of ritch or well living kiind of poeple occupaying some zones and they have things to be stealed so its normal that this zones atract mean people that want what can be taken and so crime evolves...this will be in every society, when goods and posetions and not distributed, then there is no balance and it takes some time but when the gap of certain zones begin to be higher and higher with a lot of pockets of poverty and very low chance of survival in near areas then if goverments dont implement well balanced policies and oportunities trouble will come and crime tends to rise.
Americans live to make money, portugueses make money to live
Have you learned to speak portuguese? 4 years...
suv in portugal is a jeep
Suv is different the Jeep.
In Portugal Jeep is a 4X4 car. Ex Nissan Patrol in Portugal is type Jeep
Almada Victoria…..Almada has always sucked…..
And i am Portuguese.
Amadora, is pretty safe and a good alternative to Lisbon.
Funk... is 🥴
It's not your Funk... it just has the same name
You better hurry up asking for nacionality.
Sooner or later the law will change
I know 😬 but we are working on it! - Victoria
@@ExpatsEverywherePodcast For you it might be easier... and in a couple of years you will have 20 years of Portugal.
I was talking about them... (but I wouldn't delay it for you too)
Somehow in many of your podcasts you don't mention former Portuguese colonies such as Angola, Mozambique, Guînea Bissau, Macao, Goa., Cape Verde, and Brazil and the Portugueses attitude towards the people from these places. There was an attempt to unify Portuguese under some sort of standardization, but it was not fully adopted by the Portuguese. As a note, there are 240 million speakers of Brazilian Portuguese and only about 40 million speakers of continental Portuguese. Only 2 or 3 universities teach continental Portuguese here in the US. All the rest who teach it teach Brazilian Portuguese. You have never touched upon the attitudes the Portuguese have about people of color, and foreigners in general. By the way, the Portuguese made much of their wealth in the slave trade in the 17th and 18th century. There seems to be a sense of amnesia about this country who was engaged in brutal colonial wars in both Angola and Mozambique.. In addition, a country that was ruled by a dictator, Salazar, for 40 years, keeping the country in virtual poverty and isolation. Please, let's be real here. This is not Disney. The country has a history that cannot be ignored!
Why are you even remotly interested in watching a video about such an horrible nation then?
Do you need to feed your own hate from time to time, otherwise you run out of hate?
Your comment is pure hate
What do you hope to accomplish by having such a conversation? What does any of this have to do with Americans? None of the ex-pats on UA-cam are equipped for this type of conversation. It sounds like you bring a lot of racial baggage from your home country that you are chomping at the bit to infuse into a discussion about Portugal.
Tem que haver sempre um zuka para atazanar quem quer ter uma conversa normal, trata disso e serás mais feliz.
I'm just saying that it's important to understand history of any country and how the attitudes of any give any country is influenced by it. I have listened to many pod casts where no one ever mention history. Zuka?