“Ferocious and Cruel”: The Case Of Katie Kenyon
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2023
- This case takes us to Burnley in the United Kingdom. When Katie Kenyon’s family received a series of text messages from her, they knew instantly that something was wrong. The search for the truth would shock even the most experienced detectives as a callous and disturbing plot was uncovered.
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My daughter was being harassed by a married man at the office she worked in she rang and said he was making her work back when it was only him,making sexual remarks she was 18 him about 35 and married. I hung up drove 6 hours straight waited for them in the car park she walked to her car he stood in the car park calling to her, I walked up told him I was her mum and and punched him in the face as hard as I could he actually fell over I told the management and his wife
Well done you - how was it resolved?
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giving you a standing ovation right now……
Did you substantiate her claim with verifiable evidence or just automatically assume her allegations were true? More and more women have filed false claims for various reasons.
@@brianwaller7383 it's her kid, she should believe her by default, unless strong evidence otherwise. This kind of mentality you are speaking is the very reason a lot of women get murdered.
He (Andrew) joked, "do you want to search my van, too"... if I were a cop, that would be a yes, sir, we surely do!!!!! And thanks for the suggestion!!!
Was he joking?
@@eadweard. I'm pretty confident you have the ability to draw your own conclusion.
My thoughts too.
Sure. We will!
Absolutely! Makes no need for a pesky warrant that might actually limit what could be taken & used.
@@loveforeignaccents 🤣🤣🤣
The construction of that grave is truly chilling. Thanks for uploading this video right before Valentine's Day; it's a good reminder that it's much better to be single than in a bad relationship! 🖤
Excellent point. Ladies, and men(!), don't let people that should love you play with your mind if you can help it. It's hard to leave and it's hard to be alone, but you're worth more than that!!
I hear what you are saying, my 40yr old son, feels the same. But I was one of the very lucky ones to find my other half!
Very well said!
Amen to that! And I bet anyone who has ever been in a toxic relationship can agree.
Tell it sister! Alone but never lonely. Friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, the lady at the store...
And our fur friends. We had told ourselves that we needed someone, even if they seemed just good enough! We were wrong. 😎
I love listening to British investigators. As soon as they say "right" to something a suspect says all I hear is "okay so that was a lie." 😂
😂 facts
Hahaha 😆
Spot on 😂
😂😂 Yep!
As a Native to England for several generations+ or hundreds of years
Our intellectual sarcasm is quite spectacular and subtle when we have to maintain an amount of decorum with our intuition.
Always trust your gut instincts.
That anxiety and paranoia she felt was her sensing he was dangerous.
Careful, sometimes they call instinct "bias" or some form of "ism" these days.
@@mjanny6330 careful, some people will turn ANY story to bolster their prejudices.
motive ?
@@francessimmonds5784in. V s. . C. C
@@mjanny6330 Andrew Tate, that you?
If my daughter told me she was afraid for her life, I would go and get her or contact the police immediately. I would be absolutely frantic with worry. Such a sad thing.
I wouldn't let my daughter out my sight.
@@cowoverthemoo exactly. Same here
@@cowoverthemoo You will have to at some point.
My daughter lives halfway across the country, I can’t imagine the horror and dread of hearing that my daughter fears for her life! I’d be frantic.
True story. I've never met a mother who wouldn't.
With my manner of writing and speaking, a misspelling like that would immediately set off alarms. And then how he kept emphasizing "Andy will take care of you," was so fkg narcissistic. 🤬
I’m guessing his telling them to depend on him while pretending to be her was a red flag in addition to the misspellings.
Same here I use punctuation as well, so anyone that knows me well would know immediately if a message wasn't from me.
After the second text I knew it was him. He practically left breadcrumbs with his words.
he might as well have texted "hi its andy ive just killed your mum"
The psychological torture he inflicted on Katie adds to the outrage of her brutal murder. I’m glad the court acknowledged how dangerous this man is. RIP Katie❤
Court Didn’t acknowledge enough imho. Certainly should never get the chance of parole.
What are we thinking….6,7 years tops before he gets parole?
Sometimes there is no motive and they're just an awful, hateful selfish monster. RIP katie
The fact that he thought she owed him money doesn’t seem to be a motive to you?
@@TranslateToEnglish pretty sure that was just a control tool. He's a narcissist.
The motive was control. Taking somebody’s life is the ultimate form of control for a narcissist.
Kill someone for six grand?? Erm no that isn’t sufficient motive. This was about him controlling Katie, because he’s a weirdo and a monster.
@@TranslateToEnglish but he murdered her? Why are you sticking up for him
I love watching crime videos and have followed many channels… Your channel is the best one.. Perfect voice, get straight to the story, show compassion in your voice.. Please continue to post videos.. a small fan of your channel from India.. 🙂🙏🏻
Thank YOU ☺️
You said it so well, this is exactly how i feel about this channel! i wasn’t sure why at but compassion is what felt different from some other channels
I agree! These girls make it interesting, and are very professional...... Hi from Thailand!
Totally agree. The girls also focus on the victims more than the offenders. I find their voices very soothing as well.
I'm impressed with the minimum 32 years. Usually in U.K., you're left in shock as to how brief the sentence is.
Maybe in the past, but not anymore.
He'll be 82. Relax.
And day and night counts as 2 days. Absolute joke really
@@sidstovell2177 And Katie will still be dead and will never be able to see her children. This is a dumb reply . . And insensitive.
I can’t even understand why he murdered her, he gained nothing at all, not money, not her house, it makes zero sense
Antisocials and narcissists don’t need a reason - they engage in cruelty as a sport and many get away with it, even murder. It sounds like he was one of those.
We live in a very horrible world people get targeted for no reason...just cause of ...there's people out there they will pay big money to see someone be tortured to death....
I would like to hear if a motive was established or suggested. If he was a homicidal psychopath as some folks are suggesting, there are other bodies out there since it's almost unheard of for 1. a psychopathic murderer to start so late in life; 2. If killing gives him a sick pleasure, he would have repeated the crime over and over in his younger years. Just a thought. RIP Katie
It's a power trip. He didn't want her to leave him, even though he was seeing someone else. He negged her for years, and gaslit her constantly. I suspect that maybe she had decided enough was enough, and he wasn't ever going to let her go.
with some guys it can just be one argument too far
I can’t imagine how his parents felt too, after finding out he borrowed a spade to dig her grave.
This whole thing is so awful.
The mental and emotional abuse, it’s horrific.
Rest in peace, sweet girl.
The last day seen,a discovery made,a spade borrowed and used, plastic bags with traces of evidence🚩
I feel deeply for the loved ones of the victim, but i also, always have great sympathy for the parents of the murderer (unless they were abusive, shit parents). The guilt & shame must be overwhelming. Finding out what the mundane incident of lending your son a spade resulted in must have been gut-wrenching.
Sympathy for people who raise disgusting animals is misdirected and wasted. She is the victim. Her kids are the victims. Her siblings are the victims. Feel for them, not his family.
@@Lee_lee_27_7_27 My response is always governed by how the monster's parents react. Some are good people who are truly shocked and feel heartbreak for the victim and their loved ones. I have seen one mum testify against her daughter and she was so so heartbroken but she also said she had warned her and tried so much to mend her narcissism. I have seen others not testify but obviously shocked and disgusted by their child's actions. Its not always the case that its the parents' fault. Then there are the demon makers that are just pieces of s*** themselves. Are you listening Chris Watts' parents? Yeah, that type definitely would be a waste of sympathy
@@MANGONPRAWN Couldn’t agree more….it all depends how the parents/ families react to the situation….Chris Watts’, Aiden Fauci’s mom, & Brian Laundrie’s parents are a few that pop into my mind immediately.
Never ignore your instincts. If he makes you feel unsafe even just for one moment, get away. Don’t continue being in a relationship or r even just friends with someone like him. He’ll tangle you in his evil web. TRUST AND RESPECT YOURSELF. GET AWAY !
Well said ❤
Why can't women trust their instincts? Are they too emotional or are they not clear enough? A Woman who has little intelligence understands whether that person is dangerous or not in the eyes of the person opposite her. What ı can never understand is, Why do women find the vagrant type attractive? AND GET MARRİED. MANY OF THEM END UP WİTH A BİG DRAMA. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, WE are not lıvıng in the 1960s
I'm still stunned he even got to date her in the first place. I hope all the kids involved are being given a better life.
100% I’m still confused…he’s a dirtball
Your right.
@@missindependent1973 most women love dating dirt balls instead of nice guys
I believe he may have been supplying her with drugs. There's definitely more to this story. Hence the 6K debt.
@@benburns1180
I was thinking that same exact thing
Unbelievably sad, not only did he murder poor Katie but he subjected her to psychological abuse beforehand. RIP Katie and prayers for her family
That is chilling
Im glad Katie received justice. Her poor children. What an awful monster of a man.
Here in the States, he’d be on any state’s death row. I’m a liberal in liberal Maryland, I’d walk him to the life without parole cell block, we don’t execute, any day. He’s a total monster who made up one of the dumbest story as to what happened. Katie’s story messed-up my makeup. This nonsense makes me so angry! My god, I can’t imagine.
Same, but I can't figure out what he gained from it? What had he intended when he filed against her for $4K? Maybe I missed an important piece, but I don't know why he would have killed her? There was no divorce to avoid, there was no money to gain, and it seemed that they each had their own children, so what drove him to murder her?
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We're they divorced already? I thought he has done it to avoid divorce proceeding
@@vintagetoycollector4983 the only thing I can think of is the other woman he was seeing behind her back, what a piece of shit.
So the motive for this horrific, devastating crime was what? Getting rid of her in favour of his other girlfriend? Katie's murder was premeditated by at least 18 days -- why? Was anything ever disclosed during the trial to account for his brutality and inconceivable cruelty? Poor, poor Katie. My condolences to her grieving family.
Yes, this was so odd. There didn't really seem to be any strong motive.
that's what I was wondering. I watched the vid twice, thinking I must've missed something
Some people just want to kill someone. That’s the motive.
I had the same thought! Why? I don’t get it. Because she borrowed money from him? She can’t pay it back if she’s dead. It’s so odd.
Psychopaths don't need a reason. They enjoy causing fear, anxiety and horror. It's better than sex to them. They are monsters. 👹 😢
When someone is experiencing anxiety there is typically a very good reason. It is important to take a good honest look at your life and get rid of whatever is causing it. Listen to your gut, it may save your life.
Yep me too, I've not lived with anyone else for 15 years, and not had any kind of relationship both intimate and emotional-wise for 5 years now. I raised my 4 kids alone for many years. Being with the wrong man can have very far reaching consequences for life, but removing that risk clears the fog, the atmosphere gets so much lighter. It makes it easier to have the room to breathe and be myself once again.
@Head Holidays Inc I want to get to that point someday. Still stuck
@@katherinenix1640 same here. Chained financially
I’m by myself as well with my 14 year old son. Not interested in dating, haven’t even tried since 2015.
@@missindependent1973 I think if you have a rabbit, then you don't really need a man. They never bring you down.
I'm right there with u sis .. raised my 3 girls mostly alone for their entire lives.. was married n divorced twice, have been alone for almost 10 years now and even tho I'm happier, healthier, more clear n focused...the abuse, the hurt, the shame of all I was put through, all I was led to believe about myself is still far reaching.. still curling it's snarked ugly fingers around my subconscious at times.. makes me hate the way I look at times, doubt my intelligence at times, doubt my worthiness at times, makes me suspicious of EVERYONE!!! and I have yet to really trust another soul..friends or lovers.. I literally have none.. yes, I'm calmer and happier and more at peace.. but also, lonlier...not that I would ever go back!!! But, there are the lingerings that also hold me stuck in place.. I'm TRYING to break free.. but it is a daily struggle... But one thing I can say.. I see red flags everywhere with everyone.. my past has made me see ppl clearer.. but also jaded me!!
RIP beautiful Katie. This is utterly tragic.
Wow. Chilling story. Poor Katie. There are some dangerous evil creatures among us. By the sounds, he took joy in tormenting this lady for years beforehand. And to have done all that premeditation and staging around her death. Wow.
This happens so very often, not at all rare unfortunately.
Not ending with death always of course but I cannot imagine the amount of domestic violence occurring all around the world - be it mentally, emotionally, verbal, physical - then deadly ! finally😡
Just in my own family almost every men abused their family.
With one exception : when my grandma fucked with everyone. But at least she was cooking and took care of stuff:) and however abusive women can be, somehow you are not afraid of being killed by them. (Though emotional abuse is just as killing)
And mine is a middle class “normal” educated family with diplomas from medical and engineering fields. Seemingly normal lives, with holidays, sometimes laughter and humor.
But true caring towards one another is poisoned because of 1 man’s inadequacy and because of 1 wife’s inability to understand that her main focus should have been on the fu*cking kids and not on the borderline mentally unstable father.
One of my grandpas was an aggressor too, one of my grandmas the same. At least one parent tortured my parents as well. What is interesting though that they didnt learn anything , culture, social norms can really reinforce abusive behavior and neglect (which is also abuse). And what is even more interesting is that they I believe were both strongly supported by at least 1 parents of them - so they really succeeded in life. Well.. they didnt think they should really care though what their children would do and how..apart from money they are not able to emotionally be involved.
Truly shocking and scarry. When you feel your parents think they are doing the most amazing job while they genuinely give a shit what happens to you.
It is not rare at all. In former generations people were everything but open and more than not abusive because of anxiously complying the norms and avoid being shamed by the public.
Something is clearly off. And sadly, my mother is - I know - that a very gentle and loving person who is a doctor btw curing many people in her life - still she was capable of desensitize herself to her kids problems. She instead - was always putting her husband and abusive mother first…. to be a good girl.
So when u ask for help from a mother like that they do not feel they should act and they feel uncomfortable.
There are many creepy men among us because this is the culture..
And many women who are brainwashed and helpless.
It is so sad:(
Parents also are blind in most cases to see if their kid’s partner is emotionally abused.
@@mse5739Sounds like Indian culture where people are interminably fettered by familial/patriarchal, communal & societal shackles - all in the name of such vanities as honor, tradition & culture!
Please, please, please trust your intuition in relationships. Things start out small, controlling, manipulating, then gaslighting, do not wait for it to turn physical to get out, it could be too late. Leaving is hard, Women's Aid shelters are not nice, but it is worth it, so very, very worth it.
Yes very true. They don’t start out physical - it’s a dangerous misconception by many that they do. Well said.
Its horrifying what one person can do to another and actually think the horror would not be discovered! A picnic & accident but he buries her and sends texts as her to her family? Amazing & terrifying.
My heart breaks for Katie. After years of cruel mental and emotional abuse, to have her life taken by the same monster, who meticulously and patiently planned her demise 💔
I hope Katie’s children and family find peace and strength to rebuild their lives 🙏
She put him before her kids. She didn’t deserve to be murdered however she made poor choices and her priorities weren’t where they needed to be.
THIS IS JUST HEARTBREAKING. MY HEART GOES OUT TO KATIE'S PARENTS, CHILDREN & ALL THOSE WHO LOVED N CARED ABOUT KATIE. THESE SENSELESS MURDERS ARE HAPPENING EVERYDAY IN MULTIPLE COUNTRIES & SOMEHOW IT HAS TO STOP. THERE ARE NO PROPER WORDS.(SORRY ALL CAPS AS IAM LEGALLY BLIND)
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OKAY HI NO YES YOOOOOOO HARIBOOOOO
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. SUCH A FRIGHTENING WORLD WE LIVE IN. MY HEART BREAKS WHEN I HEAR THESE TYPES OF STORIES, BUT THE VICTIM'S STORIES DESERVE AMD SHOULD BE HEAR. THEY DESERVE THEIR STORIES TOLD. MAY THEY ALL BE BLESS BY GOD WITH SOME SORT OF PEACE. TRULY UNIMAGINABLY SAD!😢💔🙏❤️
Men and women, always listen to your intuition... It is rarely misguided.
Heartbreaking for so many, who do not.
My best friend was taken, from this world, by a monstrous being, in a fit of selfish rage. She did feel more than uneasy, leading up to the most horrifying day, of her life, and ours.
So much love, and prayers, for every loved one, missing their loved ones🙏💌🙏
Mostly women
99% of the time killer is a man
@@whodatninja439 Wrong, sexist detected. Most victims of murder are men.
Stories like this make me want to stay single forever. This is so horrific, what a monster. I wish I could have a little bit of time with him, to make him feel what he did to her. She was so beautiful 💔
it is safer to stay single I am sure
Not all men are murderers lol
@@J_P_B no? But as women we have to treat all men the same way we treat guns.. not ALL men.. but enough that we need to be careful, be safe, and be vigilant about who is around us/who we are safe with.
(Think about it.. how many stories are there of women dying at the hands of a man CLOSE to her.. the fact that so many die at the hands of people they "love" /love them proves that we need to be careful.) Its not MEANT to be an affront, or an insult.. is there a PROBLEM with us taking extra precautions? (This isnt meant as an insult/ directed at you but as an autistic person Theres only ONE type of person i can see having an issue with that, or that takes OFFENSE at boundaries around safety.. I just hope I'm wrong😢)
I've also sadly found you're MORE likely to be abused if you try to be nice, then if you're rude/ upfront.
I really hope you can find it within you to be understanding. If not for me (some rando stranger) for the ladies in your life. We are all just out here trying to do our best.. It's really not about you/ an insult.. it's just past experiences have taught us to be aware.
I hope you can understand. have a good day bro.
Yeah same with women. Even though not all women are shallow dangerous creeps, there are so many out there that it's better safe than sorry by treating all women like creeps.🤷
@@breezybee3774what aload of feminism bs lol
Being gaslighted is so confusing and debilitating. l had that from a horrible DV relationship. lt was truly horrifying and got even worse when l left them. Just shocking. My heart goes out to this poor family. RIP Kaite.
That's the thing. You think it's bad before you leave..
Did you dump your boyfriend?
Andy was full of crap. What a horrible waste of a human being. This is a sad story. Thank you for your in-depth reporting.
As sickening as what happened to her is, I've always found it particularly twisted when they attempt to text their families through their phone. Like that Lee Rodarte guy.
It only shows how manipulative these POS are!!!
Especially when the supposive smartest person in the room is illiterate! Well- maybe there's a reading and writing class in prison. I keep saying- I'm so tired of these asses thinking just because their little limp noodle stands up once in a while(with an H) stands up- somebody's going to oblige- like it or not. Those prisoners are gonna love him!!
Thank you so much for covering a case that hasn’t been covered by all the other true crime channels. Great job 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏼❤️
What an utter coward❗️ playing on her mental health 😡 I have suffered most my adult life with depression, severe anxiety attacks that have worsened since Covid. And to think we tell the people we love and trust,but this monster turned it around for his own sick plans 😡 R.I.P Katie 🌹 sorry to her poor mum and children 😞 thx tc 💐
did he really think the police would believe that axe throwing story in the woods ☠️
That story was hilarious. Totally made sense
What I've noticed with many of these true crime vids is that a lot of these blokes are just idiots, like him, and leave clues all over the place. So he probably thought it was a good story. It also suggests that someone who is smart and a bit lucky could get away with murder. So how many of them walk among us? I often wonder. I think we only see the tip of the iceberg. I hope I'm wrong.
What he actually said had happened was physically impossible unless he threw the axe backwards.
Why kill her? Seems like she adored him and treated him like a king… and he kills her? For what? Absolutely despicable. That’s what she gets for loving someone properly? Makes me sad to see how this unfolded. With an axe to? 12 times? Fu** man… that’s just awful. 😥😥
Psychopathy.
He wrote the messages himself it wasn't her
May be he did not want to share kids with her?
@@natalijaasbjornsen8827 They were not married, or had any children together.
@@celineleeuwe1206 nobody mentioned the messages?
What a twat he was. He couldn’t just move on with his life, he had to destroy two families all for what? The thrill of it? I’m actually surprised he told them where the body was. I’ll never understand people who do this to their partners. May he suffer immensely in prison.
I felt this one. My aunty was killed the same way by her husband. She was only 45. It wrecked our family and left us traumatised, for life. Poor Katie and her family, her dear children 😢💔💔💔
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you all find some kind of peace ❤️🌟💐
I couldn't imagine what both yours and her family's have gone thu.😢💔 I pray that God may help every one of you to find some sort of peace.😢💔🙏❤️
@@Love.America thank you hun. It was back in 1999 but never stops feeling raw. It’s bittersweet my aunty Frances didn’t have any children, i wish I still had some of her here but relieved she didn’t leave any broken hearted kids behind. My heart breaks for Katie’s babies xxx
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Can't believe he got 32 yrs...thank goodness it wasn't 12 or 15...this was justice.
He gets a nice single cell with TV
newspapers and radio. 3 meals a day and no bills to pay for the rest
of his life . Gym and library and no waiting time for Dentist or GP.
All included in his Human Rights....
This monster took their mother/daughter/sister away and in such a heinous way. I was sick when they said she got hit 1 time over the head with the back of the axe but then to find out it was 12 times
I wish Katie could have got the help she needed (if she truly needed help bc it seems like he was making it like she had issues and brainwashing her into believing she was the problem,so who knows) or at least got away from this sick individual.
Will never understand why people do sick things.
How do horrible bastards like him manage to get beautiful good natured women who then treat them like pieces of shit and manipulate them into thinking it's the woman who's not well and not well and wrong 🤔 when they really need comforting, loving nurturing and made to feel safe and secure and treated like a queen and spoilt 😉 RIP 😢 🙏 🕊 ☮ KATY MAY YOU REST EASY ❤ 💙
Because these monsters love love love a really good loving woman that will look after them well and stroke there massive egos because women like Katie like to see the best in people this is why these predators go for the very best most loving women RIP Katie xx
Because women pick them because they can’t stand emotionally available and stable men we are too boring. They date guys like this because the emotional rollercoaster they come with
@@brianwaller7383 trust me I'm far from boring and wear my heart on my sleeve and my mum was in a battered wives refuge in longsight Manchester after getting away from her 1st husband who was that much of a horrid bastard he was actually questioned by the police of being the yorkshire Ripper because he fit the profile and he had a beard and was known to haunt the same red light districts that the Ripper did at the same time and also because of the way he used to beat my mum and when my mum eventually left him she met my dad who was ex S.A.S and I was brought up to never lay your hand on a woman and just tell people how you feel and what you think regardless of wether they like it or not and I've been around a bit I've lived in cheetham Hill moss side and ordsall and little hulton and a good few other places aswell including strangeways and Risley but for the life of me I just don't get why women stick with arseholes like that 💙 💔
@@brianwaller7383 Not true. I can’t seem to find anything other than dodgy men, and I don’t know why. I don’t find stable men boring at all - I look for that, but even the stable ones are not as stable as they appear. It’s weird - they hide it well. I’m sure the female versions do as well.
@@Jammo1978 I hear you. The abusers are highly manipulative - check out trauma bonding and coercive control. It’s not so much staying as being psychologically and emotionally abused. I do think there’s a spiritual element too - a goal to destroy the soul.
Just horrific. I am so grateful and lucky to have a husband that not only respects me but encourages me. He has never laid a hand on me or our son. Our son is also learning this example of how to treat a woman. I hear these stories and wish better for them and their stories had been different. So sad.
Please clone and clone again.
but what about other women? Ted Bundy was nice to his girlfriend
You are Blessed by The Lord to have been given something most people do not have.
This happened in my town.
Her memory will never die xx
katie was an absolute stunner, and she deserved the world. i'm sorry her life ended that way and it's an eye opener for anyone in a domestic situation. if you fear for your life tell people! if you fear for life and you sleep with them RUN!!
She was very pretty
Yeah I told sometimes to my sister or parents I was threatened by some assholes
The couldnt care less.
My friends were laughing sometimes and blamed me.
As a result it took long time until I could plan everything ALONE how to get rid of them safely.
My mother gave a shit more times I asked for help or emotional support.
My sister blamed me for causing her guilt while she is uncomfortable listening to my “complaints”.
My father blames me for eveything if I tell about any situation I didnt feel good.
I can only say I hate them. I always imagined a family running to help each other in one second without hesitation.
They only like good news, they only like when they can complain. They invite me for dinner and send sometimes presents to act like family
@@HisaLight2mypathwould you be as sad if she was ugly
My favorite day to be on UA-cam! Thank you TC!❤️
RIP Katie!😔
They may have noticed that she didn't put the "h" in the word "while", but from these texts I'm noticing that someone is trying to paint Andy in a good light. Me thinks Andy is behind this... we'll see what happens. Anyhow, thanks for the Saturday upload -- channel is always so dependable -- and hope you sisters are enjoying your weekend!
Just what I thought!! Their dad might or might not be willing to take care of the kids but Andy's gonna do it for sure 🤔 and why would Katie text her mom the exact amount of money she got from Andy, instead of just mentioning the fact that he helped her out?! Sounds like that bloke was hoping Dawn would offer to pay him back.
99% of the time it's the boyfriend or husband or significant other
My exact thoughts from the very first text
Her sister or the police should have tried to get him to spell while in a text without making it obvious.
Right?? Katie has decided to leave her entire family…. And tells her children in a super vague message “hey I’m leaving for a while. Sorry. Go to dad. IF DAD DOESNT WANT YOU go to Andy cuz he’s just a great guy”. That’s so dumb and I would immediately suspect him first, purely based on those messages Alone .
I continue to appreciate the straightforward approach to these videos. You provide the perfect amount of the backstory and information on who the victims were. Thanks.
I've never heard of this story before and it's truly heartbreaking xx
We are hearing this type of story so often, its absolutely devastating. So many children left without their mothers because of vile evil men. I feel so sad for her family and kids, she deserved so much better. Thanks for making such great videos x
So many kids gone because of vile evil mothers losing it and killing then.
@@thanos7110his is not a contest to show which genter is more cruel! Stick to the facts presented here! Out of place! 👎
@thanos7110 Ya right! Men don't spare innocent women, so not surprising what you'd do to the guilty...
@@thanos7110men overwhelming commit these types of offences, by overwhelmingly in talking 96-98% of them. Women rarely commit these offences. Men are predators who cannot accept rejection. Stop apologising for them and shifting blame onto women- you’ll be wearing a fucking dress next and wanting to use female toilets.
Do these folks not watch True Crime at all 😭 It's always an "accident" that never happened. So evil to text her fam, but him being a genius got himself caught! My condolences to her family & friends.
Yeah...he 'accidentally' threw an Axe 12 times! Unbelievable!
@@dawnatkinson7704 Exactly! I'm sure it was some type of mercy killing after the 1st time it hit her according to him. Everyone knows that when you ask someone to throw an axe you hop out in front of it to check they reflexes 😒
I watch these true crime stories as an education of sorts, what red flags to notice about someone in a relationship, how to better protect myself from dangerous situations. It is something women need to do these days, unfortunately.
@@teresajennings1243 Yessssss me too!
Both of my daughters are living their lives and we have remained very close and if they lived in fear I would be going to help them and not wait.
Not a great time for Lancashire at the moment, first Katie and now Nicola Bulley missing ☹️ It must be so devastating for the families when these poor women just vanish. I can’t imagine the turmoil they must be in.
Men and women like this are to me the most sickening. My first relationship was like this one.
The guy convinced me that I walked weird ,talked weird , had a variety of character flaws.
I woke up one day and my eyes were just opened to it.
Praise God.
If your partner devalues you and points out your flaws constantly; get away now. Don’t believe the lies. You have value.
Well done. You're the only commentator who has mentioned Men AND women. It is regularly, and conveniently forgotten that women can be abusers too. As a father of both boys and girls, I am beginning to notice the effect on the teenage boys that the constant vilification of men has on their self-esteem, relationships with other girls and their outlook. It's now gone to the other extreme, where they are fearful of having any relationships with girls and, even as teenagers, begin to look towards so-called "influences" such as Jordan Peterson, Tate and Ben Shapiro. Extreme feminism, constant attacks on masculinity, and lack of emotional support in the communities is resulting in an increase in teenage boys suicides, emasculated and introverted young lads who's basic raison d'etre is questioned every day. I worry about what kind of mental health minefield the backlash and generalisation against all men will create for our young adults. Anyone with teenage boys will, or should, be aware of the delicate situation they find themselves in..
Wow…congratulations for 480+ k followers…from 5k,I ve seen u grow to this….all d best for future 🙌
I love your content. I look forward to it each weekend.
I love ur way of speaking and ur voice. Love the way you edit and tell the stories
I have two favourite narrators on UA-cam. The is one. Compassionate, controlled, soothing and easy to stay engaged throughout. Good job 😉👌
I find her voice soothing too , sometimes I feel like the narrator's are shouting 🙉 ..
Absolutely Incredable viewer rate 99k in less than 24 hours.A testement to the quality of the work you do. congrats :)
How utterly daft of the sister to tell him her suspicions because of the misspellings. She tipped him off that way. The police could have dictated something for him to write with the word "while" and it could have been used in court.
Anyone who plays with anyone's mental health is the lowest and cruellest excuse for human life. Hope Katie is resting within the arms of eternal peace and that her kids go on to live productive lives along with only great memories in the hearts of family and friends 🙏
Another excellent video.
Sad story.
RIP Katie.
Thoughts are with her family and friends.
How the bloody hell he had Katie as a girlfriend and had another one on the side is completely beyond me!? RIP Katie.
Sweet photo of Katie with her Frenchies. I hope her kids can find peace in their memories of her.
This is a very heartbreaking case. Please get out if you feel like you're in any kind of danger. Love shouldn't hurt, or be scary. RIP Katie 😔
I needed an upload from your channel today. Poor Katie & family. Such a monster. Unbelievable how these monsters do these evil things is maddening. RIP Angel 🕊🌾💕
Great job again TC telling this horrific story 👍👊🤍 Thank God Katie & her family got justice.
God bless 👑🙏🕊💘
I’ve been binging you for some time now. I truly enjoy your channel and the way you present cases
Thank you Truly Criminal, another excellent and well-crafted documentary. I always look forward to these. The worrying thing is that these monsters are often very good at looking normal and it's then too late when the truth is finally told about them. RIP Katie, may the Angels give you wings to fly
The “Andy will Always have your back” gave it away before I even knew who anyone was
Too many women losing their lives to these vile, evil narcissists. She loved him n he took her life because he thought he could. Typical narcissistic behaviour, gaslighting her, putting doubt in her head to control her n her mind. Her anxiety was her gut telling her he was danger. My heart breaks for Katie, her family n most importantly her kids. Hope life in prison is hell. Sending prayers to Katie’s children n family. Rest In Peace Katie 🤍 🕊️
Because they don’t want to date nice guys because we are “boring”. Dating the bad boys give them an emotional rollercoaster they love. We get shamed for being incels but at least we don’t murdering women. But it is what it is. This will just continue till women in general start making better decisions on who the date and sleep with
@@brianwaller7383 classic victim blaming, how typical of men. these MONSTERS act like “nice guys” to lure in unsuspecting women. they lie, manipulate and abuse. they are never as they seem.
You have left so many sexist messages in this comment box under various comments. Not a nice guy behaviour dude. Its not like women always go for bad guys. Guys treat them nice in the beginning and show true colors only later. It is not as black n white as you say.
@@SamKevinAntony yes the do always go the the bad boys. I’m living proof of it I was the nice guy for years and got nothing but rejection from women, used a free food on dates, used for money, used for attention. Now I just don’t care anymore. I’ve been called incel enough to just not care anymore more. I don’t give a shit what anyone thinks of me of my comments I leave. So if you don’t like it tough shit I don’t care
Steph loves her popular buzzwords😂😂😂
I don't know what women could see in this man. He is despicable and pure evil. Hope he never has his freedom again . So sorry to Katie and family and friends.
absolutely tragic :-( RIP Katie. great content, love that you leave all the support line links as well for all over the world
As always a classy video! One of the only channels I search for, just to check that I didn’t miss an upload! ❤
You incredibly manage to tell these awful crime stories in such a kind and respectful manner. You do a really great job. Thanks for all your careful work. Cheers Pat in New Jersey
Thank you, Pat, have a lovely day 🖤
For those asking for his motive, he didn't give one. It's his.last bit of perverse control over Katie and her family.
Also, the words in her text message to her mam are local dialect, not misspellings
I’m surprised he even took the police to find her body. In other cases I’ve heard of they withhold that information because it’s the last part of the control they have over their victim.
Why did he continually tell the kids they could come to him 🤮 what an evil and disgusting man
To try and paint himself in a good light to cover his tracks. The texts obviously were supposed to be from their mom.
Brilliantly covered as usual you guys. What a terrible shocking case. Thanks for covering these important UK cases ❤
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Ok.. I'm confused on that money thing.. she owed him for what? And then he said he would pay it?
It might have been a ploy to convince her that he was her saviour if he paid it off for her. That she would be grateful to him and remain with him, if he did that for her. She did say that she was afraid of losing her home because of the debt, which would have symbolised her independence from him.
Whatever his reasons, they were horrible head games he played on her, and her family.
Me too. She owed him (the boyfriend) money and he went to the court in an attempt to retrieve the money from her and then he said that he will help to pay it off. Pay off to who .... himself?
@@classic3316 maybe he took a loan from someone/bank in his name for her. So she had to repay him. But he tried to appear magnanimous by offering to repay the loan himself and not her, so she remains indebted to him.
@@Uniqueen1114 That's a good possibility. Thank you.
Wouldn't be surprised if he just made it up and made her believe she owed him money when she really didn't, making her worried then coming in and acting like a hero so she thinks how wonderful he is......B*stard
A narcissistic monster POS. I like that his misspelling got his ass! Thanks TC. Much love to you and your followers 💚
This man is vile and disgusting. How dare he kneel down near her. Words cannot describe how sickening he is.
Looks as if he had no problem finding romance.
What, pray tell, do women see in these losers? You see it over and over. I’m mystified.
I’m going to guess that he was probably very loving, caring, and kind. This facade of his must have made Katie, suffering from anxiety and possibly low self-esteem, think him the most wonderful person on earth. Gaslighting is also an effective manipulative tactic to trick the victim into believing themselves to be the problem, not their partner.
I cannot understand his motive for killing her. She seemed to adore him. He must have had some deep unresolved issues or something.
Still not sure how a guy like that was able to get a woman like THAT!! Wow, she was a beautiful woman. RIP.
She was literally hugging and kissing him and excited for their outing…while he was planning her murder. Being a psychopath isn’t a good enough reason…why? Why her when she behaved so loving to him. When he clearly didn’t deserve it! He was gross, she was beautiful. Inside and out for both. To try to make himself a hero in the story, with those disgusting texts. He’ll kill their mother, and then act as though he’s the one that will raise them in her absence. Just disgusting. I literally hate him.
“He was gross, she was beautiful” This is reason enough right here. The jealousy of those like him is intense.
Absolutely heartbreaking. What a narcissistic sociopath Andy is, fuelling dear beautiful Katie's self-doubt and confidence. Heinous individual, taking her life in a brutally cruel agonising manner due to his wretched belief of inconvenience.
You are such a good youtuber. Thank you for all your hard work 💜
Just think … you could know / be related to a monster like this … you should get some sleep. You look tired 👁️👁️
Love this channel! Always keep it for when I’m cleaning 😂. Pods in and off we go 👏🏻
Thank you for not using all the stock video clips to augment narration. You do such an incredible job, maintaining uniqueness while giving respect to those affected by these tragedies.
Thank you!
These stories are truly sad, but they are very eye opening.
Thank you for sharing.
New to the channel. What a very sad story. Her poor children, I hope that they are getting some good support from outside agencies to deal with their grief so that their grandma can also grief for her baby. What a fantastic channel this is. Thanks for all the time and effort you put in.
What i wish to know is, why this beautiful looking and gentle soul, would even think of entertaining such a nasty, and scruffy looking creep! Thank goodness her two children have a loving family to look after them. Rest in peace Katie. xx
I know he’s a right ugly bloke.must have a big one
Perhaps she thought it was a bit like bringing home the muddy, scruffy dog you find in the street. You clean him up and cut his fur and feed him and pet his head and he loves you forever.
@@sheilag.834 Very well put across! Thank you for your reply! xx
Beautiful soul, May you rest in paradise. Why? Why? Do men tend to manipulate always the good ones? I can relate to this tragedy, ladies if you see any red flags is because is warning you from that person. Please follow your instincts, and get out of the relationship, but don't tell him. Or if you do, make sure you are surrounded by people that know you. I had to leave my home where my deceased husband of 30 years left me and my children. After all, he wouldn't leave. I never looked for anyone in the first place, but after 5 years I met this ex-military handsome guy, who asked me for marriage. He was very attentive, and once he saw what I could offer, then the manipulation started. He tried to have me only for himself and ran off my friends away and family. He drank every day. Couldn't keep a job, and he then started with verbal abuse. He would do this in front of my then 12-year-old. I realized he had many issues like this guy who killed Katie, he made her believe that she had mental issues when they are the ones that need to be locked up in a loony bin. He was probably the one with mental issues. I broke off my engagement and he didn't want to leave my house. One day he pinned me down on my bed, with one finger on my cheek, and said to me, I could kill you right now and leave no mark. I could get away with it. Please learn from these horrific stories, be safe everyone and God bless 🙌 💔
Thank you for your work in presenting this case on video. How utterly awful.
No one should ever suffer abuse like this. RIP Katie xx
This is so incredibly sad to watch. So sad. I feel so sorry for this vulnerable lady, whose life had been cruelly taken. I feel so sorry for her children, sister, and family. The grief must be unbearable. Why are some people born with such cruel, savage intentions?
These types of evil intentions are mostly a result of how people are raised and whether or not they have 3 dimensional thinking. Not just thinking about how your actions affect you, but how they affect the people around them which includes loved ones. It was very clear that Andrew never developed that level of 3 dimensional thinking and paired with narcissistic tendencies and manipulation, you are presented with someone that exhibits malicious intentions.
He looks creepy
You have such a. PERFECT voice for this, telling. It’s so important and still as I see it, it’s impossible to tell why a voice is great or not for telling. ❤
I absolutely love your videos and your voice is so perfect for what u do. Keep up the amazing job of telling these victims stories n giving them a voice
Why????? What a monster. I hope he is suffering in prison
I saw the police searching for this poor lady as it happened close to me which really makes it hit home. My thoughts are with her family and friends.
Another great video! What a disgust inhuman man to have done what he did to this beautiful woman, her children and her loving family. RIP KATIE!
He touched his ear while answering the question he’s lying
The only difference between a narcissist and a psychopath is one of them might not kill you.
Very true!
Ted Bundy was a narc