I was usually too poor to buy new comics in the 90's so I had to get my books 25c a piece out of a cardboard box in the back of antique furniture store. it worked out because i was scoring shitloads of jack kirby, wally wood, and classic x-men stuff while my friends were reading x-ecutioners song or whatever.
Steve Englehart is easily one of the nicest and smartest maker of comics I’ve ever had the chance to meet. You guys should interview him one of these days. An overlooked master from the 1970s whose work is still reverberating in MCU movies and other places. Anyway, great video 👏 👏 👏 and great comics too
Good to see Marshall Rogers art on C.K. Shadow of the Bat was my intro to these Batman stories. I purchased them new of the shelves of my local comic shop. Yeah loved the Baxter paper reprints. Rogers’s new wraparound covers are incredible, especially The Joker cover (talk about architecture!) but my favorite is the final ish with Batman and Clayface atop the bridge tower.
Thanks for the deed dive and bringing back the great memories. You have no idea how this team re-vitalized Batman and DC. At the time the comics shops were overrun with Marvel mutant stories. Englehart and Rogers brought Batman back from the brink just as O'Neil, Adams and Giordano had done so and as Miller was to do so. Again, thanks for posting the great deep dive.
Thanks for reviewing this. Englehart started two issues before Rogers and Austin, writing the two-parter that introduced Dr. Phosphorus and Rupert Thorne. They were in issue one of the Shadow of the Batman. I was fifteen when this run started and it remains a definitive version of Batman for me, along with Neal Adams and the New 52 Batman. I agree with your comment concerning the Golden Age flavour of the series. They featured Hugo Strange in his first appearance since 1940 and I think Deadshot also had a long absence before appearing here.
The Shadow of the Batman reprints in the 80s were my first exposure to Englehart and Rogers run. I love the Baxter paper reprints from DC and Marvel from this time period.
Excellent review,guys! I read these books on the newsstand and loved it! Austin gets flack for inks with technical pen ❤ but the end result is what matters and Terry really brought a lot to the table during this era 👍🎯! Congrats to Ed for receiving that treasure trove of comics!😎💎Dr.Strange 48-53 was Stern,Rogers&Austin in 1981,I love for you guys to review 50 and you will see lots of great layout/narrative especially in 50! Thanks for the look back and Keep reading and making comix!⚡️🔥🚂💫☄️🇳🇵
What a memorable--and influential--run Englehart and Rogers' late '70s Detective Comics truly was! Those unforgettable issues actually laid the groundwork for Burton's '89 film, as well as virtually every media interpretation of the Dark Knight that has spanned the last three decades!
Clicked so fast. Loved Rogers artwork and Englehart's writing. If Batman was ever in Marvel in the 70s and early 80s, this is how I thought he should be.
ahead of it's time yet stooped in the reverence for where it came from, this run is awesome. it reads like a week in the life of batman, a caped DETECTIVE. who has to deal with a bunch of crap at any given day, very interesting and another take to the equally popular Neal Adams and Denny O'Neil formula. They would do a sequel in the 2000's called Batman dark detective, which would be interesting to look at purely to see how a collaborative pair could change over time. also, on Harley Quinn, DC Comics has an interesting history with the name of harley quinn, she was originally a Green Lantern villain in the 40's. In the seventies, an unrelated version would appear in batman claiming to be jokers daughter, before claiming to be related to both two face and the penguin. another Harley Quinn was supposed to be DC's first openly gay character in the 80s, but DC chickened out, so the character was scrapped, and then you get the Batman Animated series Harley Quinn, and the rest is history.
Englehart had said that this issue was added to the schedule because they had to push the Joker’s appearance back a month (since it would have been in conflict with an appearance elsewhere).
This run was always noted as THE "definative'" Batman run, post O'Neil/Adams and pre-Miller. The producers of the then upcoming Swamp Thing film promised their Batman effort would be based on this collab (a NY convention appearance. I forget the year).
As great as this issue is, seeing the joker in the next issue trying to intimidate a copyright lawyer into doing up the paperwork on the famous joker dish is as strangely hilarious as it is surreal in its banality.
I was usually too poor to buy new comics in the 90's so I had to get my books 25c a piece out of a cardboard box in the back of antique furniture store. it worked out because i was scoring shitloads of jack kirby, wally wood, and classic x-men stuff while my friends were reading x-ecutioners song or whatever.
Same. I was reading 10 or 15 year old comics along a rare contemporary comic in the mid to late 90s. Not a bad thing at all.
There should be a deluxe reprint of these comics
Steve Englehart is easily one of the nicest and smartest maker of comics I’ve ever had the chance to meet. You guys should interview him one of these days. An overlooked master from the 1970s whose work is still reverberating in MCU movies and other places.
Anyway, great video 👏 👏 👏 and great comics too
Nothing is more relatable than Ed's "it fuckin sucks", when talking compass use.
Good to see Marshall Rogers art on C.K. Shadow of the Bat was my intro to these Batman stories. I purchased them new of the shelves of my local comic shop. Yeah loved the Baxter paper reprints. Rogers’s new wraparound covers are incredible, especially The Joker cover (talk about architecture!) but my favorite is the final ish with Batman and Clayface atop the bridge tower.
Thanks for the deed dive and bringing back the great memories. You have no idea how this team re-vitalized Batman and DC. At the time the comics shops were overrun with Marvel mutant stories. Englehart and Rogers brought Batman back from the brink just as O'Neil, Adams and Giordano had done so and as Miller was to do so. Again, thanks for posting the great deep dive.
Thanks for reviewing this. Englehart started two issues before Rogers and Austin, writing the two-parter that introduced Dr. Phosphorus and Rupert Thorne. They were in issue one of the Shadow of the Batman. I was fifteen when this run started and it remains a definitive version of Batman for me, along with Neal Adams and the New 52 Batman. I agree with your comment concerning the Golden Age flavour of the series. They featured Hugo Strange in his first appearance since 1940 and I think Deadshot also had a long absence before appearing here.
Hands down my favorite episode yet. Do the whole run!
The Shadow of the Batman reprints in the 80s were my first exposure to Englehart and Rogers run. I love the Baxter paper reprints from DC and Marvel from this time period.
Excellent review,guys! I read these books on the newsstand and loved it! Austin gets flack for inks with technical pen ❤ but the end result is what matters and Terry really brought a lot to the table during this era 👍🎯! Congrats to Ed for receiving that treasure trove of comics!😎💎Dr.Strange 48-53 was Stern,Rogers&Austin in 1981,I love for you guys to review 50 and you will see lots of great layout/narrative especially in 50! Thanks for the look back and Keep reading and making comix!⚡️🔥🚂💫☄️🇳🇵
Not sure if it got mentioned- Ben Oda on the lettering to round off the team. The first thing I noticed on these pages, makes it look so classic.
What a memorable--and influential--run Englehart and Rogers' late '70s Detective Comics truly was! Those unforgettable issues actually laid the groundwork for Burton's '89 film, as well as virtually every media interpretation of the Dark Knight that has spanned the last three decades!
If you want to look at other prime Marshall Rogers, go with Detectives, Inc. Underrated.
Oh man. I used to have this run, 469-475? Good stuff 😃
Not to say that they should be institutionalized, but they are a crazy good team!
Clicked so fast. Loved Rogers artwork and Englehart's writing. If Batman was ever in Marvel in the 70s and early 80s, this is how I thought he should be.
There is a legends of the dark knight Marshall Rogers collection that’s really good
See The Joker's Daughter, where Harlequin might be the daughter of one of Rogues Gallery.
ahead of it's time yet stooped in the reverence for where it came from, this run is awesome. it reads like a week in the life of batman, a caped DETECTIVE. who has to deal with a bunch of crap at any given day, very interesting and another take to the equally popular Neal Adams and Denny O'Neil formula. They would do a sequel in the 2000's called Batman dark detective, which would be interesting to look at purely to see how a collaborative pair could change over time. also, on Harley Quinn, DC Comics has an interesting history with the name of harley quinn, she was originally a Green Lantern villain in the 40's. In the seventies, an unrelated version would appear in batman claiming to be jokers daughter, before claiming to be related to both two face and the penguin. another Harley Quinn was supposed to be DC's first openly gay character in the 80s, but DC chickened out, so the character was scrapped, and then you get the Batman Animated series Harley Quinn, and the rest is history.
My biggest regret is that their run was so short. Rogers died too young.
Englehart had said that this issue was added to the schedule because they had to push the Joker’s appearance back a month (since it would have been in conflict with an appearance elsewhere).
This run was always noted as THE "definative'" Batman run, post O'Neil/Adams and pre-Miller. The producers of the then upcoming Swamp Thing film promised their Batman effort would be based on this collab (a NY convention appearance. I forget the year).
As great as this issue is, seeing the joker in the next issue trying to intimidate a copyright lawyer into doing up the paperwork on the famous joker dish is as strangely hilarious as it is surreal in its banality.