Understanding The Class Action Baby Bottle Lawsuit

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  • Baby bottle manufacturers are getting sued and parent's are worried. Let's skip click bait and fear mongering and talk about what is happening in practical terms. Here are the basics on what the concern about microplastics in your baby bottles is about and some risk mitigation strategies that may help you to feel more confident in your infant feeding options.
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  • @laurashortill8623
    @laurashortill8623 11 днів тому +15

    I went down the microplastic rabbit hole with Baby 2. But then I realized my pump parts are plastic, and all my breast milk is going to be stored in a plastic bag, so, then it becomes a question of minimizing rather than eliminating. I got a nice response from the President of MayMom (a plastics engineer with a PhD from Duke) about why he prefers PP plastic to PPSU- in short, because (1) PPSU is patented and more expensive, (2) it still sheds microplastics, (3) the risks of PP plastics are fairly well known because it’s been around a long time whereas PPSU is newer so there could be risks we won’t know it til later. Then I realized that just about all plastic bottle makers recommend tossing them after 6 months anyhow, both PP and PPSU. like the Dr Brown Glass bottles because they dry quickly. They are sturdy, too. My daycare provider isn’t scared of glass. She’s old school.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  10 днів тому +1

      This is where I'm at as well. There is no elimination possible to I'm gonna focus all my energy of things I can control :)

  • @elizabethzenteno259
    @elizabethzenteno259 12 днів тому +19

    Agree with giving baby cold milk. I didnt even know about microplastic concern. I was just too sleep derived to mess with hot waters or warmer equipments 4 or 5 times a night. So cold milk it was and baby really didnt care.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  12 днів тому +1

      This wasn’t on my radar last time I was feeding a baby either!

    • @TubnQT
      @TubnQT 6 днів тому +1

      I work in a hospital NICU, and I let the milk warm up at room temperature instead of putting it in the warmer.

    • @cour2knee
      @cour2knee 4 дні тому

      We have left 1 bottle at room temp before first sleep. He drinks through that one then we have another bottle with pre measured formula and water bottle ready to be mixed. He is just fine with room temp milk.
      Also, breast milk is good for 8 hours- that’s a full night.

    • @adra6397
      @adra6397 2 дні тому

      It was in mines mainly because of brain freeze from cold drinks but the fact I see so many moms saying they done this and it went well I will give it a try and see how baby handle it. Thank you!

  • @samtheriot4714
    @samtheriot4714 9 днів тому +6

    This has been extremely helpful for me. Thank you so much 😊

  • @tierab
    @tierab 6 днів тому +4

    I primarily used Avent and Dr. Brown Brown glass bottles with my son, any plastic bottles i have will be going in the trash…thanks for this informative video

    • @claudiapastorahdez6177
      @claudiapastorahdez6177 2 дні тому +1

      Same here. The first month I was not in a solid headspace but realized by week 4 that glass bottles existed and stopped using plastic bottles.

  • @gwendolinechione
    @gwendolinechione 3 дні тому +1

    Thanks for this brilliant video, calmly explaining emotive information 🙏🏾Please could you kindly list in the description box all the glass bottle manufacturers that you mentioned? Many thanks. 🙏🏾

  • @madisoncambria6744
    @madisoncambria6744 9 днів тому +8

    So just to clarify, all plastic baby bottles regardless of manufacturer have the same microplastic risk, it’s just that Avent and Dr. Browns are the only ones labeled “BPA Free” which gives consumers a false sense of safety?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  8 днів тому +5

      Per the lawsuit that is the complaint but Avent and Dr Browns are being singled out despite many others doing this. This is a strange lawsuit to say the least

  • @MrsCan
    @MrsCan 8 днів тому +8

    I use Dr. Brown glass bottle. I didn't even know about the lawsuit. Just didn't want plastic over all. And I don't use it much. I breastfeed exclusively, and barely use formula.

    • @kailasan8524
      @kailasan8524 6 днів тому +3

      Good for you, genuinely. Unfortunately, there are many moms who aren’t able to breastfeed and have to use bottles.

    • @user-bd4bo4tb8u
      @user-bd4bo4tb8u 7 годин тому

      @@kailasan8524I did both. I didn’t produce much milk, but did it for the bonding. ❤ I still had to give him formula.

  • @ericaleeper9364
    @ericaleeper9364 5 днів тому +2

    Interestingly, Dr. browns has a bottle warmer that is designed to be used with all of their products. On their website, it does not specifically say to avoid with plastic bottles. So I think they might be getting themselves in trouble with this one.

  • @alejandrasosa1714
    @alejandrasosa1714 6 днів тому +9

    Waiting on your video on how to properly wash/disinfect the bottles, please!

  • @user-wv2nl9kq8k
    @user-wv2nl9kq8k 3 дні тому +1

    Are silicone bottles like the boon nursh bottles also a good option?

  • @juhisoni6946
    @juhisoni6946 11 днів тому +2

    Eye opening info & really liked your honest opinion

    • @juhisoni6946
      @juhisoni6946 11 днів тому

      Can you type here the name of the glass bottle u were recommending! I didnt quite get that due to the accent may be

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  11 днів тому +1

      Mila’s Keeper is the truly plastic free bottle I showed :)

  • @Bean1979
    @Bean1979 5 днів тому

    A video on different glass bottles wouldn't be amazing ❤

  • @SimplisticGrace
    @SimplisticGrace 12 днів тому +5

    Is it just the sterilizing feature or the temperature itself? I use a sterilizer for its drying function only which gets a lot less hot than the sterilizing side. If it’s the temperature what is a safe temperature the plastic can be?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  12 днів тому +3

      For plastic it's the cooler the better. Even the dry features on the sterilizers can be quite hot on many models. The challenge is the companies don't have to tell us.

  • @VGD1229
    @VGD1229 6 днів тому +1

    Even pay attention to sippy cups and putting them in the dishwasher…1.5-2hr cycles in immense heat. I wash mine by hand.

  • @menjivar1208
    @menjivar1208 3 дні тому

    I use Philips avent and Dr. Browns bottles and sterilize the bottles after each use should I not sterilize them at all??? Or should I limit sterilization? What are the risk of not sterilizing them?

  • @winnielygamer
    @winnielygamer 5 днів тому +1

    What about silicone bottles like como tomo ?

  • @Fromette
    @Fromette 9 годин тому

    Hi from France! Here sterilization is no longer recommended and most parents would use room temperature bottle water.
    Personally I’ve used glass bottles for my twins until they turned 10 months old.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  9 годин тому

      The concern with room temperature water for formula is this is a risk of bacteria which caused the loss of a baby here in the US. With formula we still want to use heated water.

  • @georgianachivoiu9596
    @georgianachivoiu9596 8 днів тому +2

    As far as I can find online, silicone doesn't shed microplastic even when heated?? So using silicone baby bottles like Boon Nursh and Suavinex could be better than plastic ones

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  8 днів тому +2

      They still have plastic components that shed in contact with the milk. There are also other concerns with the silicone bottles causing feeding challenges which may introduce additional risks. Silicon bottles aren’t solid options just yet. If you are worried about the microplastics go with glass :)

  • @Aetriex
    @Aetriex 7 днів тому +2

    Would heating in a glass bottle and then pouring into plastic bottle help?

    • @NikkiB7598
      @NikkiB7598 7 днів тому

      I would like to know as well

  • @yuluvme
    @yuluvme 6 днів тому

    I was going to purchase a bottle cleaner and sterilizer this time around to save time. Looks like I’ll just stick to the regular hand washing

  • @Huang59
    @Huang59 7 днів тому +6

    How about the milk sotrage bags? It's also all plastic

    • @jessicadorlac
      @jessicadorlac 6 днів тому +1

      Not heating them would prevent a lot of the micro plastic from shedding, I would think.

    • @thedomesticrevival
      @thedomesticrevival 2 дні тому

      They also now make silicone milk storage bags!

  • @momonoki86
    @momonoki86 11 днів тому +2

    Thank you for your informative video. I was aware of phthalates risk with plastic reading the book it all comes from the egg. From my first pregnancy I avoided heating plastic, and for the first months I used the Philips glass bottles. But then they leaked very often while my baby was drinking, I was so annoyed I shifted to the plastic ones. Thinking about that, the cause may be that after using hot dryer for the plastic part of the bottle , the seal was compromised. I am pregnant with my second I am thinking to use the Pigeon glass bottles, but not using heat for the plastic part. About sterilization, we use a Philips uv-c light sterilizer and I think would be enough for the newborn stage.
    If I switch to glass I can keep using the uv-c sterilizer for the bottles. The issue will be letting air dry the pump parts, which will take much more time than heat drying.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  11 днів тому +1

      The UV sterilizers typically have a drying feature that is no where near as hot as the other options

    • @momonoki86
      @momonoki86 11 днів тому +1

      Unfortunately I checked myself with a thermometer, and inside the Philips uv-c sterilizer it reaches 150 °F, after 20 minutes of drying. Which looks quite high for plastic I think.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  10 днів тому +2

      @@momonoki86 that's extremely high for a UV Sterilizer in general. I recommend the Wabi brand and the Tommee Tippee/BabyBuddha brand for those because I know the quality and that it's not getting hot like that. That stinks that the Philips is not venting properly to prevent having to using that kind of heat.

    • @momonoki86
      @momonoki86 10 днів тому +2

      Thank you! I didn't know it wasn't supposed to get so hot. I will look into your suggestions!

    • @momonoki86
      @momonoki86 10 днів тому +2

      Also, if you own any of them, could you please confirm how hot it will get inside? I can't find any official info about 🙏🏻 thank you!

  • @24kmt
    @24kmt 6 днів тому

    Or what about Natursutten bottles?

  • @heathervannuil4835
    @heathervannuil4835 4 дні тому

    I use Phillips avent anti colic and I did steam sterilize every couple weeks but I’m going to stop! But we mix our formula in a Dr Browns mixing pitcher…. Any recommendations for pitchers that aren’t plastic? We aren’t shaking the formula in the bottles but the mixing pitcher I’m sure causes microplastic shedding

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  4 дні тому

      I'm actually on the hunt for that as formula pitchers make safe prep with the proper temp water realistic for parents but there is the microplastic concern.

  • @Alenajellybeans
    @Alenajellybeans 5 днів тому

    what about 100% silicone bottles? like Nanobebe Flexy Silicone Baby Bottle

  • @HoserHobbit
    @HoserHobbit 9 днів тому +2

    Do we know if we have sterilized/heated the bottles in the past, will they always release microplastics into the food?
    Does it only happen when you heat it or once it’s heated it’ll forever release them?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  9 днів тому +5

      It sounds like all plastics shed but heating increases the rate of shedding.

    • @HoserHobbit
      @HoserHobbit 9 днів тому +1

      @@genuinelactation thank you and thank you for all that you do!

  • @SuperPuffyDuck
    @SuperPuffyDuck 6 днів тому

    Great video, i was sure panicking! I did buy different bottles, how are ComoTomo Silicone bottles? are they some you'd recommend? thanks for the recommendations.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  6 днів тому

      I don’t recommend them because of the nipple shape causing issues with babies oral function. I would do a glass bottle as a better option.

  • @Bcdangable
    @Bcdangable 2 дні тому

    Hmmm we use dr browns green bottle with green tube and then sterilize steamer. Is sterilizing still needed when our child is 7months now. I was concerned about micro but I was even more concerned about the particulates in the water we boiled and fed her. Now I boiled the water and then let it cool and then pour that water into a water purifier. And now we gotta worry about these micro plastics the companies know about but don’t care about (let’s be real) so the answer is UV sterilizer and glass bottles ? Fortunately our baby can drink room temp milk and cold

  • @chelsea10505
    @chelsea10505 10 днів тому

    Should i buy standard or wide neck for lasinoh nipple?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  10 днів тому

      Do you already have the lansinoh nipples?

    • @chelsea10505
      @chelsea10505 10 днів тому

      @@genuinelactation yes. Thinking to buy them to replacey existing lasinoh plastic bottles

    • @nicolecombs0611
      @nicolecombs0611 9 днів тому

      I always get wide neck to help with a more natural and wide latch

  • @binkinbelle
    @binkinbelle 8 днів тому

    Is avent being sued for their glass bottles or their plastic?

  • @24kmt
    @24kmt 6 днів тому

    I found ones from Zero Waste Store that are 100% plastic free. Just glass and natural rubber. Has anyone tried?

  • @chanamiriamagasi2740
    @chanamiriamagasi2740 10 днів тому +2

    Do pump parts need to be sterilized or is warm water and soap enough?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  10 днів тому +5

      For healthy full term babies sterilization is not needed.

  • @BethanyBeery
    @BethanyBeery 5 днів тому

    I tried switching to glass and my son immediately dropped it - within days of getting glass. What’s a momma to do?

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  3 дні тому

      Oh no! What brand? Was there a silicone sleeve on it?

  • @laurashortill8623
    @laurashortill8623 11 днів тому +4

    Here is my knee-jerk, instinctual, I-didn’t-read-the-pleadings-this-isn’t-legal-advice- 2 cents on the suits. The suits were filed in federal district court in CA. The Plantiffs are all CA residents. The defendant Bottle making companies aren’t all CA companies. That’s probably why it’s in federal court - diversity jurisdiction. Federal courts can construe state law and hear state claims where they have diversity jurisdiction. CA state law has a strict laws about marketing and often provides for money damages in a high dollar amount even if the actual damages would be otherwise low or nominal. So, my instinct, without reading the pleadings, without proving legal advice, is that the dollar value of the actual damages to compensate the plantiffs for the harm microplastics caused them might be low, but, the plaintiffs may prevail on their claims if they can prove it’s more likely than not that the defendant companies’ marketing was misleading within the meaning of CA law. As always, great content Jessica and great tips on how to lower the shedding of microplastics while keeping babies fed and parents sane. :)

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  10 днів тому +2

      That checks with what I can see. This appears to be a strategic money grab but their strategy may pay off in California.

    • @laurashortill8623
      @laurashortill8623 9 днів тому

      @@genuinelactation (1) Almost every lawsuit could be construed as a "money grab" because the remedy at law for almost every civil wrong is money - and nothing more. (2) I tried accessing the pleadings via PACER (the online docket for federal courts) but would need to pay a fee to access them as a non-party, so I decided not to read them over. The docket sheet (which is public) confirms that the case is in federal court due to diversity jurisdiction and not specifically because a federal question is involved. Wish I had more intelligence to share!

  • @p.p.4283
    @p.p.4283 5 днів тому

    I exclusively pump and feed baby using avent plastic bottles. I also use plastic pump parts. I hand wash and sanitize everything after every use. It sounds like I’m overdoing it and harming my baby?? This is my second time doing this and my daughter is fine but I’m a huge germaphobe and hence feel better sanitizing on top of handwashing. But are you saying stop sanitizing all together? We also warm breast milk because the fat rises and separates after storing in fridge. Baby is full term and no health issues.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  5 днів тому

      This is such a sensitive situation but no I don’t think you are harming your child. I think this is an area where we don’t have great research and there is a potential risk of increased microplastic exposure with your current routine. With my private clients with these concerns we have been focusing on finding a balance that each parent can live with. The answer has not been the same for all families but we have found an option each time that helped the family feel confident in their choices.

  • @YappieKitchen
    @YappieKitchen 5 днів тому +1

    I did everything I could as a new mother to keep my baby safe and healthy. And as soon as she started crawling she would eat random things on the ground. One time she chewed a foam toy and ate some of the foam. And another time she was chewing my sunglasses case and ate some of the leather. So I would tell moms out there to relax, you’re kids going to consume chemicals whether u like it or not. 😂

  • @FleurdeAli
    @FleurdeAli 12 днів тому

    Does this go for the glass bottles too?

  • @fernandatv
    @fernandatv 7 днів тому

    How should we sterilize pump parts for preemie babies? I have a baby in the NICU and bring him breast milk daily.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  7 днів тому +1

      You want to work with your baby’s health care team to determine what is needed for your specific situation. NICU babies are all unique and your baby’s needs have to be considered when determining what products allow sterilization while minimizing risks. They can also guide you on which forms of sterilization to consider using- heat methods are only one way to achieve this need.

    • @fernandatv
      @fernandatv 7 днів тому

      @@genuinelactation Okay, thank you for the reply.

    • @TubnQT
      @TubnQT 6 днів тому

      I’m a NICU RN. Currently, we use steam sterilizing - a plastic sterilizer bag we put in the microwave 😳 That is for bottles as well as pump parts. But you can do what you prefer at home. Maybe soak the parts in diluted bleach water? Either way, the parts are not going to be sterile the moment they are touched and/or set on the towel to dry.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  6 днів тому +1

      @@TubnQT for the NICU the microplastic issue is just no where near as concerning as bacterial contamination for sure!

  • @kathryn583
    @kathryn583 7 днів тому +1

    I swapped my dishes a few years back after finding out that most of them especially colored ones leech lead & cadmium. Can you maybe do a bit of research about the glass options for us too?? Before we know it, that’ll be the next lawsuit out there.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  7 днів тому +1

      We are actually looking at this but this is going to take some time. Its a tough choice for parents these days!!

  • @adra6397
    @adra6397 2 дні тому

    What about breast milk bags? I put the frozen milk in warm water to defrost. These companies should be investigated too and be given resources to go about.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  2 дні тому

      Last I checked they recommend defrosting in the fridge.

    • @adra6397
      @adra6397 2 дні тому

      I was doing that but it doesn’t defrost fast enough. Maybe I’ll do a few milk bags overnight.

  • @kedaniel2
    @kedaniel2 7 днів тому

    Most people who breastfeed aren’t heating bottles, they are heating frozen, plastic breast milk storage bags.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  7 днів тому

      There is a wide variety of what is normal- many never freeze any milk! Plastic bags are a concern as well.

  • @useridcn
    @useridcn 6 днів тому

    We don't shake our children's milk, we stire it.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  6 днів тому

      There is no harm in shaking milk and the stirring would cause the same issues with microplastics in this case.

    • @useridcn
      @useridcn 5 днів тому

      @@genuinelactation I only said it because you said you can't think of ways to not shake the milk.

  • @lisabebesita
    @lisabebesita 10 днів тому

    We haven’t even found the true effect of microplastics in the body. The freaking out about this is crazy.

    • @genuinelactation
      @genuinelactation  9 днів тому +3

      We know microplastics aren’t good though- so minimizing them is likely worth assessing.