Therapist Reacts RAW to Heartstopper
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I think her saying "I'm sorry if I made you feel like you couldn't tell me" also relates to scenes in previous episodes where she mentions how he will find the right girl, or how he liked an actress as a kid. I think it is a reminder for parents that perhaps using gender neutral terms in talking to you kids is ideal until they tell you specifically if they have a preference. I have the most supportive family but the constant hetrosexual narrative as a kid probably impacted me more than I thought. Even supportive parents like Nick's mom can unknowingly say things that impact kids subconsciously.
i remember a tv interview about 5 or 6 mid teen boys who were up and coming actor.......the host asked each of them "do you have a girlfriend?"
I was so offended....i'm sure at least one of them was bi or gay or still confused.....back then, you had to lie and pretend you were straight.
@@roncaron8939 Yes, there's the truly cringe-y interview with a young Jodie Foster where they keep going on about whether she has a boyfriend. 😐😐😐
@@roncaron8939 you were so offended? Jeez you really need a life then
I don’t see how gender neutraI language reIates to this at all! Nor how it will make your child more comfortable unless they AS YOUR CHILDREN know that you aren’t h0m0ph0bic. A wise man once said, The subconscious is unconscious to our conscious.
This leads into how the “coming out” thing is unnecessary unless it’s like some asks you. If not directly then something like “what kinda girlfriend do you like?” And you answer honestly. Because of you KNOW your parents are h0m0ph0bic then it’s not a good idea.
@@vicky__p so?
I was sobbing when Nick came out to his Mum as Bi, and when Tori comforted Charlie. Such pure moments!
same, it was such good acting
Apparently Olivia Coleman also cried for real in rehearsal. Kit Connor was like "oh noes, I broke Academy Award winner Olivia Coleman! Help!". 😁
This scene makes me sob every time, it’s so beautiful and I wish I could have the same
Grrrrrl!! Mended light should watch that latter one you mentioned!
@@leo2364 bad*
watching this after what happened with Kit makes me so sad... he deserved this kind of coming out. a happy and warm one, on his own terms, and not forced one that feels like fucking blackmail. I'm heartbroken.
wait what happened with kit?
@@jisungieluvrr he was forced to out himself as bisexual after months of harassment
@@jisungieluvrr Kit getting harassed for some dumb stuff, because people are being asshats. People didn't like that someone "straight" should play a bisexual character. He was forced to come out and honestly, celebrity or not: No one should be forced to come out. Apparently, common sense isn't that common anymore.
We can hope that Kit had this kind of reaction from his own family. My guess is that, given how sensitive he is as a person, he did. While I remain angry that he was bullied into coming out, I hope his own family and friends have buffered him from the injustice.
Hearing about Kit being forced to come out made me so sad. He deserved to do it on his own terms and it's nobody else's business. He did an amazing job playing Nick and that is all people should care about
I knew my son was gay before he was old enough to know himself. I always allowed a safe environment for him to talk to me about anything as a single parent. His dad and sister disowned him and I moved him 1000 miles away to have the life he wanted. I adore him and so proud of his accomplishments.
🏆🏆🏆🏆
You are an amazing parent 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Congratulations, you sound like such an understanding, supportive parent. Your son is very lucky to have you in his life. ❤️😘
@@robyn00xx And So Say All of Us
Seems like a waste of money considering his dad and sister did most of the work anyway lol
Coming Out is still making me anxious because as an asexual, most of the time, it's not done by just saying that I'm asexual. Most of the time, it becomes a asexuality 101 lesson which can be exhausting. And don't make me get started on the reactions I sometimes get.
Absolutely, when you want to come out as gay your fear the unnatural comments. When you want to come out as ace you fear the broken comments. Why don't you love anyone? Are you broken? Then you're stuck in a hole feeling worthless and broken because people misinterpret what you're saying
Ace gang represeeent
The accuracy. Every. Damn. Time.
And then there’s the anxiety making it seem like the person you came out to is making a weird face or going to tell other people or just flat out judge you… coming out is hard
Fellow Ace (also pan) here, I feel you. Just in case you or any others are unaware, you may be delighted to know that Alice Oseman is herself, asexual :) She has another novel following an aro-ace character, highly recommend.
OMG YESS!!! Please please please watch the whole thing and maybe do a Cinema Therapy video about it. Believe me, you won´t regret it! Not only should it be a gold mine for content but the whole show is just SO good. Wholesome and fuzzy and heartwarming and just all-around well-made. And it´s a very quick watch, the whole series is just 4 hours long! So nothing to lose, right?
Yes, we definitely need a cinema therapy with Alan for Heartstopper!! Pleasee
Yeah that would be so awesome! We want more!! 🥰
@Lucy Beck I would watch every single one 🤩
Will second the Heartstopper Cinema Therapy episode. It's a short series, perfect for that.
literally came to the comments to say this exact thing! It would make for a great episode of Cinema Therapy. There is so much to talk about! So many examples of good and bad communication, mental health issues, and also just such a heartwarming story!
It's terrifying coming out. I had a simular conversation when I came out to my dad. First thing he said is "I feel like I failed as my job as a parent that you couldn't feel like you could tell me this." My mother told me how much better it would be if I was just a crossdresser. She told me multiple times, "you know if you were just a crossdresser it would have been better for everyone, cause at least I could accept that."
Sorry this was you’re experience. Hard when family doesn’t get it
I’m glad that your dad from what I can tell had a good response and I’m so sorry that you had to go through that with your mom. I’m sure you know this but of not , know that there’s lots and lots of people who will support you.
I’m sorry to hear about your mom, and I’m glad that your Dad was accepting! Like one of the comments said earlier, there are people who will/do support and love you :) God bless you ❤️
Goodness, that admission of your mom that her lack of acceptance is the problem but somehow you're to carry the responsibility is painful to even read. So I'm glad you at least have one parent on board (kind of) doing their job here. I wish you tons if support for your future from people of your choice!
I’m so sorry I hope it gets better for you
I think nick and Charlie’s conversations are probably the healthiest portrayal of communication between a couple where one has mental health issues/trauma/insecurities that I’ve ever seen portrayed in a show about teens. Not just lgbtq+ teens. Just any teens period. Respect, compassion, clear communication and zero codependency. This show really models healthy relationships and also shows what relationships can be when you don’t have that mutual respect and compassion as we see in Ben’s relationship with Charlie .
YES 100%, very well said
I love how Nick and Charlie are there for each other and also how they interact with each other in general. And Kit and Joe have such good chemistry
I say this all the time! Adults I know could learn some things from how these two communicate. Such excellent modelling for all youth. Especially the lack of codependency. We also see in Season 2 what a lack of clear and honest communication does to a relationship. Ugh, I can't with how amazing this show is
Slight SPOILERS but nothing earth shattering: In the books, Charlie DOES become codependent on nick for all his struggles/mental health issues, and this takes a toll on charlie AND Nick. Nick is super stressed, doesn’t know how to help, lots of big things happening. THEN, Nicks mom sits him down and explains codependency to him, and has a heart to heart with Nick. He then can go and have a conversation with Charlie, and their relationship becomes so much stronger because of it. I love that heart stopper deals with these things, and then RESOLVES it, and even showcases the work it takes to get better in a healthy and loving way.
I'm stealing this from an old tweet or Tumblr post or something, but I still think about it all the time: One thing that straight people will never experience that every LGBTQ person goes through before coming out is accepting the possibility that they are about to be disowned by their family. No matter how much you think your family loves you, you still have to brace yourself for the chance you might be wrong.
This scene is devastatingly beautiful, and Kit and Olivia play it perfectly. It guts me every time.
Would love to see you react to the contrast between Ben and Charlie’s abusive/manipulative closeted relationship vs nick and Charlie’s respectful and wholesome closeted relationship
This was my favourite part of the show. The difference between keeping it a secret and keeping it a secret.
This is a totally beautiful tv series I chanced upon and I’m so glad I did. I’m decades beyond and straight but even then I couldn’t get my parents to take any relationship I had seriously. I am thrilled that this is the sort of show that young people get to see these days. I am definitely giving it a second watch. If you haven’t seen it, get to it! ❤️
I agree with you. I have seen to many shows of soap opera shows that have so much troubled lgbtqia scenes. I remember watching it as a teen and being older and really hating the hate and selfloathing aspect. Like being was always going to be hard or sad and you could never be happy. A show like heartstopper has healed a part of me as a 33 year old biseksual woman to see happiness. The light at the end of the tunnel. It has a road filled with troubles but there is a way foward and to be happy.
I kinda knew when I was 16 like Nick, but due to circumstances did not have the time for any kind of romance. Had my first relationship at 24 and I never really made a big deal about my seksuality. I told my mom when I was 27 and some others dropping hints to the fact that I liked woman. But never big coming out. When I turned 30 I decided it was time to say it more confidently to others as I was getting asked, why are you single, kids? The right man will come. I started correcting people or woman. Now I am 33 years and alot has happend to me and I am proud now and put it out there that I am bi.
There have been a few people that do not believe I am bi, like my little brother. But he and I do not have the best relationship and that is fine. I do not need his approval.
It is a part of me. Also being single and happy, not lonely as some people think I am.
i totally get your comment. at least you don't have people showing pitty & saying "some day the right 'girl" will come along." I have friend who is gay & single. his mom calls him and says things like " I have an office friend, who is single & i think is gay!" "I think you should meet him!" lmao.
You should react to more scenes of that show - this seriously helped my so much and is just good for the soul to watch. I'm not gay and maybe a bit too old, but this is just such a wholesome and heartwarming story, not just on being queer but also just love and relationships in general. Very precious to have this out there.
Yes! 100 percent everything you said. There’s something about the characters and relationships in this show that I have never seen like this anywhere else. There’s so much kindness and love in this show. Beyond just romantic
I remember that moment, the precipice of “now everything changes” - I delayed it for 12, painful years of secrets and bi denial. I love seeing Nick’s bravery and comfort in his own skin. I love seeing his mom’s perfect response. I think it’s cathartic for those of us who didn’t have the experience, and maybe even a guide for those on the other end of the table in the future.
"I'm sorry if i ever made you feel like you couldn't tell me that" absolutely BREAKS me every time I hear it. One day I'll come out to my parents, but it won't be any time soon.
There is a gold mine of dissectable relationship content in this show both good and bad.
I'm about to cry out of happiness, thanks for reacting to this amazing show!! Pls do more about this, we would truly, wholeheartedly love to see you react to more to this show!
I’m not part of LGBTQ+ community but I really loved this show. They show to people how you can react correctly to coming out for example. And it’s beautiful and educates people like how to react and what to do to not heart anyone’s feelings ❤
omg yes! you should really watch all of Heartstopper because it is such an amazing show that teaches teens how to interact in a healthy way. we NEEDED a show like this for the LGBTQ+ community, for sure!
also Jono, you should know by now that all fashion comes back around lol ❤
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I am a senior and I have found myself re-watching this coming out scene on UA-cam.... a lot. I was concerned a little bit that I was sort of getting obsessed. Seriously over the past few months I have probably watch this scene about 50 times and it often makes me tear up. When you said that this wholesome coming out scene is important to some people because it allows them to experience and reflect on a positive experience that they never had... it clicked with me. When I was young, it was almost impossible for anyone to expect this type of positive reaction from a parent. I also admire this series and the source graphic novel because it shows the developing language that younger people are using to discuss their sexuality. Ultimately I hope this means they will not have to keep packing up and carrying the negative bagage that my generation did.
I LOVE this show. Some people say it's "unrealistic" or "sanitized" or whatever, and while I understand the criticism, I WISH I had this show 15 years ago! It really shows what healthy relationships (romantic, friendly, familial, etc) can be. The majority of my friends and family were generally accepting when I came out, and everyone suspected WAY before I even said anything (not to reinforce stereotypes or anything, but it was pretty obvious, and that's just my experience), but coming out was still super scary! I grew up in a fairly religious and pretty conservative environment, and the anxiety around my sexuality was a bit overwhelming at times during my young teen years. I came out to my closest friends/said I was questioning when I was 13. Then I told my mom, and she wasn't mad or anything, but just asked if I was sure... which upset me at the time, but I think it was just either her wording or my perception, because I actually wasn't sure then.... (but she was always loving and supportive, before anyone starts to hate on my mom!), Then about a year and a half later when I was sure enough, I told the rest of my friends and family, and stopped hiding it from anyone who asked, but it wasn't all daffodils and teddy bears..... luckily I had a pretty solid support network (whether I believed it at the time or not), because my friends and family loved me. Some of the people in my family may not have been entirely comfortable with it (maybe not even to this day), but they still love me and have always accepted me and welcomed my partner as a part of the family without question, just as if he were a girl. They'd also sure as hell kick someone's ass to defend/stick up for me if it came down to it, just as I would for them. Lol anyways, the point that I'm trying to make is that some people just suck, but some people don't. I was really taken aback by how accepting some of the people in my life were, and it was a huge relief for me, but not everyone has the same experience or support system. Sometimes people will surprise you, but coming out is a scary thing no matter what 🤷❤️
Coming out is literally looking over a cliff into a raging river. No matter how well you can swim and you say “you can do it, you’ll be fine.” You’re still glued to that cliff face. You can’t jump, you struggle to let go and you struggle to really trust that those around you will help keep you afloat.
Nick’s face- every time he tries to tell someone- encapsulates that fear. It’s there and present and he knows they love him but it’s still a fear that you struggle with.
I absolutely love heart stopper. It is so nice to have positive accurate representation that doesn’t villainize by sexuality as well. I love it, and I do think personally as a member of the community that I like seeing positive coming out stories, as exactly what you said, an example of what it can look like, so I completely understand. Also making it clear that that’s not always reality for everybody I think love Victor does a nice job of showing what it can also look like.
Indeed it does! I love that it gives young people a healthy model for what their life can look like. (Not just lgbtq+ ppl, but teens struggling with anything.) and it also gives adults a model for healthy parenting
I really like the viewpoint of HEARTSTOPPER. is from the lgbtq+ side and the hetronormitive crowd is mostly in the background.
I'm also glad that none of the characters are the stereotypical, over the top, lgbtq+ characters that you often see in other shows.
There are SO many stories about queer people being rejected and bullied, I don't know how anyone can complain just because there's finally something positive and uplifting!
beautiful analysis. Nick’s mum is a pretty minor character but such an important one because she can be a role model for how to respond to someone’s coming out. And ofc it was so well-acted.
Also your jorts comment killed me 😂
I definitely felt this way like Nick when I came out as Non-Binary to my parents. I knew my parents love me and just want the best for me. However, I couldn’t help but feel worried they wouldn’t understand. The best way I described it to my parents was that it was like trying on pants and the one’s I got automatically were not comfortable so I tried on They/Them pants and it felt so much better for me. Like I never 100% felt comfortable in my body/gender as a kid but never understood why and I did try to fit in but the uncomfortable feeling never went away.
when i came out as genderfluid, my parents (through text) were really supportive but in person they had absoltuely no idea how to talk to or about me for the first six months. it got better but it's hard for sure
@@catjenkins9679 Felt this 🥲 glad things are better, sending a virtual hug 🤗❤ it’s difficult but definitely needed
This is such a good description I’m going to use it
I think Alice Oseman (the writer of the graphic novel and screenwriter for the show) gave wonderful information for kit Connor (nick’s actor) to work with for this scene.
He said that Alice clarified that while nick’s self discovery journey is scary and confusing for him as is coming out, he is not upset by the fact that he likes Charlie. He’s not reluctant. He loves how much he likes Charlie. His feelings for Charlie inspire him and bring him joy. As is expressed in his facial expressions in this scene as well as when he says to Charlie “I like you so much…and I love liking you”
It’s very sweet and joyful.
It definitely didn't go well for me. My brother outed me at Xmas. My Mormon family proceeded to shun me. That was 21 years ago. I'm glad it's better for many Mormon kids now, but it still doesn't go well for everyone.
Heartstopper has been balm for my soul. I've watched it many, many times. It's a beautiful series and has had a significant impact on me. It's important to have shows like this that model this behavior... not just the mum, but the healthy relationship between Nick and Charlie. Plus it's beautifully acted. No wonder it's had a massive impact around the world!❤️
I loved how you paused to speak about how much it showed about her parenting that when she could see that something was up she gave him her full attention.
And that face you did at 2:43 - that look of: “you have my attention but I don’t want to actually listen. I’m listening bc I’m obligated get it over with already…” vs her look of open warmth and “whatever you say I’m here to listen bc I love you and want to know what’s going on bc you are precious to me…”
I was very moved by her acting choices/the direction. It really does model positive communication. Lovely to see
This entire series is worth watching. They way these people communicate is exemplary
My whole family- parents & 5 kids 7-16 watched this series together. It is absolutely excellent. We cried and cheered. Can't wait for season 2.
It's hard to see this beautiful coming out scene knowing that the actor who plays Nick had to come out because fans were really pushing him to do so. :'(
Never clicked so fast in my life
Sameeee 🤗
in regards to the fashion choses, its probably not best to listen to Nick when it comes to peak fashion xD
that aside, as an LGBT adult, I WISH I had a show like Heartstopper growing up. It is definitely marketed more towards teens but I love that it shows that loving someone of the same gender doesn't have to be the end of the world. That it's okay to question and not be sure about your identity, and that you WILL find your own niche group of people who are like you and accept you for who you are while you figure yourself out.
So much of the LGBT media I had growing up was hyper sexualized and the coming out experiences were always graphic and the parents were almost never accepting at first, even if they do come around later. I'm not downplaying that people do have those experiences, but it came make young queer teens and kids scared to ever come out or accept that part of themselves for fear of seeing those reactions from the people they love most.
Heartstopper lets people know it's okay to be scared and unsure, but that liking someone of the same gender, or even changing your gender (You should watch clips of Elle's story as a trans woman transitioning from an all boys school to an all girls school) isn't the end of the world. That, yes, you will run into people who are shitty and not accepting but it's important to not let that stop you from being who you really are because the people who matter will love you regardless of who you chose to be.
I had no idea this show existed! Makes my bi heart so happy! 💙💜💗
omg please watch the whole show! it's so good and has such perfect bi representation!
IT'S ORIGINALLY A WEBTOON. PLEASE READ IT.
Knowing the Heartstopper graphic novels, do a review on season 2 once it comes out. Lot's of stuff for a therapist to react to there!
OMG i didn't know i needed your reaction to this!!
also, the BTS of the coming out scene is just as lovely, Olivia Coleman was so moved by Kit Connors acting that she actually teared up and forgot her lines, and said "I got all overwhelmed, your little face!"
To think that the "fans" of a show that displays this massage managed to bully the actor who plays nick into coming out when he wasn't ready gets my blood boiling. The kid is 18 for Christs sake 🤦
Coming out I was extremely lucky. Was in my 30s and had been 'straight' until I started dating my best friend of 15 years! My families only response was 'finally!' Lol
I know not everyone receives anything like this and it's terrible I can only hope it improves overtime.
My daughters are OBSESSED with this series, it's very cute.
I'd definitely love to see you guys react to Heartstooper in its entirety, it really is a phenomenal show (based on a phenomenal comic)
Omg, saw the notification and heartstopper yeah!! Let's go. I love this series and comics🥰❤️
Such a great scene❤️ she is a good mum.
I remember growing up and NEVER seeing gay, queer, bi-sexual, poly-sexual, transgender or a-sexual characters portrayed on TV. Now I can name shows on TV that have characters just like that, and even couples. It really is nice to see.
As to whether jorts are back in fashion, were they ever out of fashion? In the last 5 years of the 18 years of my life, I can't remember a time when jean shorts weren't worn, at least in my generation.
I never officially came out. I got sent to conversation camp and when I got back home. (Government shut it down) I just focused on getting through high school. Then I left and never came back
I looooooooove Heartstopper. I read the webcomic and when they announced that Netflix was doing a series I was so apprehensive. But they put so much tender loving care and respect into the story Alice Oseman created. I beg anyone and everyone to watch and read all her works for the Heartstopper universe. It will warm any heart. 💙 💛
She wrote the show too! Which is why it’s all done so well, because it’s her vision
My outing was like Nick my Mom was so nice & supportive my dad hates me he is French and catholic I wish every queer kid this lovely support from parent's
I love that your producers chose Heartstopper, but I'm kind of bummed they chose the very last scene. This is based on a webcomic and they made into a show. They purposefully made this to be appropriate all the way down to preteens. (There's no sex in the comic, because that's not it's thing, but there is certainly plenty of swearing.) You don't have to go past a youtube search to see how beloved this show is. It was in the top 10 in Netflix for awhile.
I really encourage you to watch the whole thing (eight 25 minute episodes). Great examples of getting consent (and 1 not from a different character). The difference between a show like this and something like Love Simon is the sheer amount of queer involvement. Half the cast is openly queer (gay, trans, non-binary). Practically the whole crew and production team are queer from the producers, writer, director, cinematographer, hair, makeup, costume, even the PAs. And it shows. It is a beautiful show with a ton of representation.
And yes, we all wish our coming out was like this (and to Olivia Coleman). ;) For adults this show is beautiful and mostly bitter sweet because very few of us ever had that kind of acceptance.
Can you make a video bout Nick and Charlie’s relationship?
i love heartstopper sm
you should definitely react to more scenes from heartstopper! in particular there is one scene involving charlie and his sister tori in the last episode and a scene involving one of the other couples in the show (tara and darcy) talking about the changes that have happened since they came out which is in the 6th episode :)
you should react to young royals if you get the chance sometime :))
I was hoping you could react to Heartstopper! This show also models healthy communication and consent so well.
At 33, I finally came out to my dad as nonbinary and pansexual, and he was just like, "I know." 😂
But the really interesting part is that he had his suspicions when I was a kid. Even though he was really religious, he was never going to make me tell him. He told me that he never planned on disowning me or kicking me out over it, which I didn't expect. I was a terrified, closeted queer kid whose family was very conservative and really into church, and I really thought that, after a certain point, there wouldn't be a place for me anymore. I am happy to report that I was wrong.
I'm always surprised when people come out to their parents and the parents say 'I know' when those parents have never talked to them about it (not to assume who they were, but to make it clear they unconditionally loved their child whoever they turned out to be, and were an ally to LGBT+ folks) - it seems terrible that you were terrified, thought there would never be a place for you anymore and didn't come out to them as your true self until the age of 33 if they knew all along. A similar thing happened to my sister, who was always a 'tomboy' (this was in the 1960's) and apparently our mother told her (aged about 9) she had to stop dressing like a boy and having short hair because people would think she was "funny" - my sister had no idea what she meant, because at that time there were no visible queer people at all. Later my sister knew, as a teenager, that lesbians existed, because she went to art school and there were some in a group of famous women artists in Paris at the turn of the 20th century, but as she told me later 'I didn't know that they were everywhere' and of course at the time homosexuality was medically considered a mental health issue/disease. I'm very happy that my daughter (now 31) grew up with my sister as a role model, a gay/straight alliance in her school, no-one but religious bigots thinking that it's a disease and me not making assumptions about her identity/sexuality. To be fair, I could only do that within what we knew at the time, and she is now a very happy polyamorous pansexual, but even 15 years ago neither of us had the understanding, or even the language, to consider possibilities such as pansexual, ace, non-binary etc it was more that I didn't assume she would be straight, in fact at about 13 she clearly felt under some social pressure to 'choose a side' and I advised her that she had her whole life ahead of her, she didn't know who she might meet and fall in love with, so she didn't have to make a choice, she could just be who she was, however that turned out (and of course that I would always love and support her).
I love this show and this scene! Nick’s mum is a great parenting role model. I love the character of Nick, but you shouldn’t take fashion advice from him. 😅
coming out to my family was a lot easier than for other people because my sister had come out like a few months before that and my coming out was actually accidental over dinner at a restaurant
Maybe react to Heartstopper's Tao and his insecurities within his friendship group, I feel like there's a lot there. And also maybe to Nick's struggle to confront people?
@@RaineInChaos yep, I agree!
2:44 another 100% accurate face, my parents on a daily basis about pretty much anything.
Would LOVE to see a full reaction to the series :)
I resonate very strongly with the part about the coming out scene being healing in a vicarious way. I'm in a place where I can't yet come out to my parents but this is such a beautiful moment.. it brings tears to my eyes every time!
That coming out scene was almost identical to how my coming out went to my mom. Same response and everything. Despite my mom telling me everyday since I was a child that it's ok to be gay and that she'll always accept me if I am, it was still a terrifying experience. One thought that ran through my head was "what if I'm not gay" but that was of course I was. It felt at times like a leap that there was no going back from but after I came out life just got better and I was free to be who I was around people and no longer had to hide my true self. It was only after coming out did I realise how trapped I felt beforehand. Coming out was such a relieving experience but only after you take that initial leap. That initial leap is terrifying. It felt as if I was actually base-jumping off a cliff, heart racing and high adrenaline. I know I'm lucky that the only person that had a problem with it was my brother (who was toxic-masculinity personified at the time and who thought I should stick to societal norms like he had planned for me).
i came out to my mom after 2-3 ish years of knowing and i knew logically that she would accept me but it was so scary in my mind because i was so young when i realized and she said the same thing “i’m sorry if i made you feel like you couldn’t tell me”
I actually would find it really interesting to see a Cinema-Therapy Episode on Heartstopper. It is not that long of a show and could easily be covered in one video but there are quite a few parts to analyze I am sure (although I am no therapist, so I can't say for sure)
If there is not enough Season 2 and 3 (which are confirmed) will have enough for sure (that I can say even without being a Therapist), at least based on the topics of the corresponding parts of the Graphic Novel
Yes! A hundred times yes. I didn't even think of it, but I'd love to see this, too.
And I want to now what Alan would have to say. 🙂
Absolutely!
I would love to see what Alan thinks of the performances as well as the direction from Euros Lyn. I could see many different therapeutic lenses to analyze the show by. I think that will be especially true in the 2nd and 3rd season when they’re released. Specifically Charlie’s mental health story
I feel it´s important to show positive coming-out stories. Especially really lovely reactions from parents. People watching this now might be parents or become future parents. They are shown now how to be supportive and excepting.
Yeahi, I was one of the people who recomended the show to you and now you made a video about it! Great! Still think you should analyse the whole relationship between Nick and Charley because they have extraordinary communication between them and they are warm and loving and know what`s right and what's wrong. A real palette cleanser after Euphoria! 😜
It really is a stark contrast to euphoria haha. I heard someone say “euphoria is the trauma and heartstopper is the therapy” I really feel that
I saw so many positive comments about this series, I just stopped and added it to my Netflix list!
@@missnaomi613 It really is the most heart warming show I have ever seen!
A lot of the reason why LGBTQ+ media was (and still often is) R-rated and more graphic is because of the homophobic assumption that queer relationships are only about sex, while straight people are the only ones who actually fall in love. I'm so happy that media is starting to show more well-rounded queer stories.
Heartstopper has spoken to me & to my late partner like nothing ever has in my life. My coming out was not until I was 23. My father said nothing & my mother made the moment about herself and how it affected her. There was nothing at that moment but a feeling of shame and loneliness & why bother? It's taken the passing of time & loss for Heartstopper to happen & give my inner child a voice that wasn't heard too well through my teens. Hiding, fearful, anxious, lonely and bullied for being a pretty, gentle & sensitive boy. Now he's a man (me), and I adore Nick & Charlie & friends. Alice Oseman & Euros Lyn are gifts to queer people of all ages. It's so good to say that as my father became hostile to me whilst I was at school for "hanging out with queers" - at 15, that destroyed me & he went through my schoolbag in fits of rage whilst I sat across the road from my house looking at him in my bedroom tipping my bag upside down in an anger-filled rage. The impact of Heartstopper is untold & endlessly beautiful. ❤🍂
my god you all should’ve seen the happy hand flaps i did when this popped up! heartstopper (and the rest of creator alice oseman’s stuff) has been my fixation since aug. 2019! ahhhh i have so much i want to say but can’t find the words to say it. ok brb gonna watch the video now
EDIT: if u did more scenes i would not be complaining lol. tara and darcy’s relationship is also a good one to analyze, particularly the one where tara opens up to darcy about her insecurities
I would love if you watched Heartstopper (4 total hours) and examined some of the characters on the show. Tao in particular. He is Charlie's best friend and extremely over protective of him and of his friend group changing as they grow up. It's truly is one of the best shows out there for the LGBT+ teens and for anyone who was a teen, in the closet or just questioning their sexuality. God I wish I had this show when I was a teen.
I'm so glad my good friend Jon has reacted to this beautiful scene from the perspective of a therapist. Back in June, I reacted to this scene as a negotiation expert AND as an LGBTQ+ person myself. So I thought I'd share it here: ua-cam.com/video/0RYRUI8y5EE/v-deo.html
I'm almost 40, and I loved this show. It leaves you with that happy warm smiley feeling. I think it's a great show for any age.
I'm 64 and cis/straight and I think the show is incredible, and that many of my peers would have had much happier lives earlier if they had this kind of show in my day!
Please react to more heartstopper. There is so many good depictions of mental struggles and healthy relationships 🥰
I forgot that I hadn't told my dad that I'm bi, and casually dropped it in a conversation with him and he was just like, "Oh yeah, you like girls too?" And I nodded and he's like, "me too."🤣
Would love to see you do an analysis of Charlie’s mental health struggles as they are explored further in the coming seasons
Ugh. Can you be my therapist?? 😂 💗
I'd like you to react to a scene in the second season with Daracy and her mom having a fight over her suit for prom. That is a mom on the other side of the spectrum.
One thing I think that particular scene does beautifully is it models for parents how to handle your child coming out to you. If you watch the rest of the show, you'll see moments where his mom assumes that he's straight and says things with that assumption without considering that he might not be, and so where she says that she's sorry that if she ever made him feel like he couldn't tell her that, I think it's those scenes that she's referring to. But it's beautifully done because she acknowledges that she might have done or said something that made it harder for him to tell her. I definitely recommend watching the entire series. It's eight half hour episodes. And I think it's strength besides being for a younger audience is that it models things like healthy, open, honest communication and the mom handling how her child is coming out to her, and I've seen a lot of comments about young people using this show as a vehicle for coming out to their parents. I think that this show really does a good job of showing us a lot of diverse experiences as well. I highly recommend the entire show.
Would love to see your reaction to the whole series💗
Having read the last 2 volumes of the heartstopper comics he's going to have a lot more to say about this show if Netflix renews it for season 2 (which they better if they know what's good for them)
It’s actually been renewed for both a second and third season! They’ve started filming season 2 last month!
HS is everything I wish I had in my life
Yea it’s a really beautiful show and Olivia Coleman is superb as always. I just love her 😊
Very understanding mum. Shame her other son is a homophobe.
This scene is so precious! It's great that media is now portraying LGBT+ characters in a normal way, and not just as villains or cautionary tales.
I'm about to turn 51. This time 2 years ago, I realized that I'm bisexual. I knew that the people I needed to come out to one-on-one (my kids and a few friends) would absolutely not care, in the best way possible. I was correct. But I still felt that tinge of nervousness with my friends, including my Honorary Mom. I then posted about it on Facebook, where I'm "friends" with about half of the people I see regularly at synagogue, and got only positive responses. Then came a video for my UA-cam channel, where I encourage living authentically (as long as it's safe to do so.)
So, yeah, you can expect a good reaction and still be nervous coming out!
🙏❤🏳🌈
i am so jealous i will never have what he does
Speaking as another therapist, your reactions are spot-on. I love this show and look forward to next seasons. Beautiful acting.
NO, JORTS ARE NOT BACK IN!!!!! just kidding wear what u like that’s what’s awesome
Man i literally just finished rewatching it for the nth time this morning and no matter how many times i watch Nick’s coming out scene to his mom i can’t stop smiling and tearing up because there’s nothing i would want more than to have had that with my mom.
1:16 that is EXACTLY it, i think this face is pretty much a universal experience of anyone coming out about anything ever, whether we make this face externally or internally, and you captured it perfectly.
LOL your comments at the end which were good reasons to not pay special attention to "what's in fashion" - I myself have had the LITERAL experience of keeping a certain shirt for over a DECADE, then suddenly wearing it in front of a recent roommate that hadn't seen it yet... and their first response was "HEY is that NEW??" 🤣
Given that type of reaction, I mean... what is the POINT of throwing away (OR even giving away) perfectly good clothes, and WASTING money on new ones... if that COULD be a response? LOL
More heartstopper please 🥺❤️
I can't tell you how much I love this show. If only I were 35 years younger, I could have grown up in a world where this show existed.
To be quite honest, I found the wholesomeness of the show a refreshing change. If you want to see another good coming out to a mother scene, check out the movie BEAUTIFUL THING.
As a teen unsure about her sexual orientation, I searched and watched a lot of queer movies and the vast majority was in the style of broke back mountain-- no talking about feelings, hush hush touching (often rough), everything is hidden, love is portrayed as forbidden, and more often than not one of the lovers gets killed or kills himself because of societal treatment. It's so depressing to watch, and even the newer stuff portrays queerness in a very sexual, rough, hidden or very loud way. We all yearned for something sweet and wholesome and Heartstopper is filling that big gap, that is why it's loved so much. That is also why Red, white and royal blue is so incredibly popular, we just want cute, funny queer stuff, lighthearted, a joy to watch. We don't want another dark, sad critic of society. I'm so happy that the movie industry is changing because things like Heartstopper prove that they are very much wanted
I'm going to echo the multitude of people recommending this show. As one of the "difficult coming out" stories, seeing how much the world has moved on is just pure wholesomeness.
But I would like to challenge the idea that earlier LGBTQ+ cinema was highly sexual. There certainly was plenty of very sex focused shows and movies. But even when there wasn't, just the very mention of L or G (because B was completely overlooked and T was derided and often seen as a punchline) was enough to automatically get a minimum of a 15 rating.
If you know that your film isn't going to get a classification that will allow it to be classed as a family film then you might as well just go with it. Which is why we ended up with more emotionally traumatic movies like Torch Song Trilogy, My Beautiful Laundrette, Philadephia, etc...
This is why age appropriate lessons and structured learning are so vitally important. As are realistic role models. I realised I was gay when I was 11, but I can't remember seeing anyone who wasn't a caricature.
So yes, if you want to see how far LGBTQ+ cinema has grown - watch Heartstopper. ❤️
I really love Heartstopper because it's so optimistic. I know that some people don't like that it doesn't show the hardships experienced by a lot of LGBTQIA+ people which I agree with. BUT I also think it's damaging to only show the hardships too. If all you see in the media is hatred and abuse toward LGBTQIA+ people then you're going to start thinking the whole world is like that and that there are no kind people out there who will accept you. Which in turn can keep people trapped in the closet.
In addition to that, it gives non-queer people the blue prints of how to BE the positive impact in a person's coming out journey so they don't become part of the hardship.
ALSO if you want to watch a movie where people in the LGBTQIA+ community are ridiculed, judged, abused, laughed at, dismissed and all-round rejected by society then watch literally any movie with a queer background character that pre-dates 2015. Especially comedies. I'm just saying.
Oh my gosh... I am gonna love this.. Thank you so so much 🤗❤️ Can you do cinema therapy on heartstopper???
You should react to Charlie and Nick's relationship as well..... That's so healthy you'll love it
I absolutely think you should watch the entire show. A lot of the criticism surrounding it has been about how it’s “unrealistic” or “too saccharine” in its portrayal of LGBTQ+ relationships, but I think that is entirely the point of both the comics and the show: it models healthy communication in parental relationships, friendships, and romantic relationships, and it offers a positive alternative to all the negative and dark portrayals of LGBTQ+ love that already exist in media. Many adult viewers of the show have talked about how it healed parts of them that had been buried for so long, since joyful portrayals of LGBTQ+ love didn’t exist during their youth. I think this show (and the comics) have made, and will continue to make, a huge cultural impact.
Please consider doing a reaction to the entire show, I think it would absolutely be worthwhile.
*Watching Nick and Charlie hugging on the beach
Jono: "Are jorts back in?"
Love you Jono!
the jorts commentary, a+ 😂 also more seriously while I understand why some queer folks find Heartstopper too "idealized" or too happy/wholesome of a portrayal to be as personally meaningful to them, especially among us older queer folks who grew up in very different times, I love it for the hope it represents (I mean, and also for being just a straight-up fun entertaining show). I wish everyone's coming out experience could be as positive and supportive as Nick's. I'm one of the lucky ones and mine was, even though I procrastinated for years despite knowing it would be fine and my parents would love me. It was still hard to let go of that fear.
I think the most important thing and why this series is so loved, (even its original comic form), is that it can be real about things that are hard while also showing that our lives aren't always about tragedy. There's this over focus on how hard it is for us in the lgbt+ community, which is true yes, however its jus so nice to see people being happy for once. Not everything is constant tragedy after tragedy and seeing lgbt ppl in the light and joy is so rare on tv. We aren't jus a tragic backstory. Lives can have tragic events but it shows us that even those lives have light. There's light left for us. We deserve happiness and support and to exist without our lives being boiled down to a fraction of what its really like. We aren't just a teaching lesson for cishets we are our own community with the right to see ourselves in media jus for the sake of it. That's what makes this show so beautiful.
When I was taking general literature in community college over 50 years ago, required reading was The Boys in the Band by Matt Crowley, The instructor brought the copies into class in a carton. I don't know why it was not sold in the college bookstore. It is a story about a birthday party that was brutal and heart wrenching. People criticized it because it showed a dark side of the gay experience in the sixties,
Now, Heartstopper is being criticized for being too sweet. The two plays are poles apart, but nevertheless, they have an authenticity and honesty that illustrate and expand the gay experience of their time. Put Brokeback Mountain in the middle and you see a clear evolutionary development.