I agree, and also modern days realities and perspectives are so different from days in the past. But the trend is to put a label on all facets of history, and misjudging historical intentions.
Injustices and atrocities were carried out from both sides during our clash of civilizations. My wife's massacred families graves in Kansas are proof of tragedies of the past were not all one sided.
Judging the past by our modern mores is so presumptuous. Who says we are the epitome of perfection? Thanks for this video, it was great in so many ways.
Interesting and beautiful locations, you take us along to see the sites. I appreciate the knowledge that you both share. History is documented, then disproved, and time takes care of all things. We just have to watch, continue reading, and mostly observe all around us. Environment and how humans get along on this big rock, that's worth watching. Fantastic Friday ❤
This was another great video seeing New Mexico and the beautiful scenery of the countryside with the nice camping areas there thanks for another video and until next time take care Rick and Linda Thank You.🇺🇲🤠🐴🇺🇲
Recently, I had an extremely stimulating 3 hour conversation with an attourney practising in Chiuauhua City. The best vantage point to observe the USA seems to be from outside our borders!
Isn't it fascinating how you can still find places that show that humans were there and left relics for us to discover and wonder? Keep up with the great content!
Another great show. I really enjoyed seeing Kit Carson’s home and museum. He was born here in my hometown of Richmond, Ky. He was also a cousin to Daniel Boone. I actually live just minutes from Fort Boonesborough. Linda, that pie looked delicious!!
:) WOW! Thanks MUCH for sharing! MUCH LOST in our History, and unlike today where they bury and try to change it :( ALL the BEST ans SAFE Travels! Cheers! :)
You are exactly correct Rick about not judging history! Even when we think we know we don’t!! It was a tough life back then it most cases ! Thanks for sharing!👍😁
As usual, a great and informative video. My son gave me a copy of Bill O’Reilly’s book for fathers day, “Legends & Lies, The Real West”. The book devotes a sizable chapter to Kit Carson. Although I have read a little about him in the past this book really expressed what an interesting and accomplished individual he was. The book is well worth getting and reading for those interested in the old west.
Rick , wonderful information about Chivington and the Long Walk. You educate me ever week and show me things I have missed in my travels. Stay safe a thanks to Linda . She really led much of this episode .
All of the rock work on US 64 is brand new. The highway was recently widened in that area. It used to be much narrower until last summer. Love your videos! Safe travels!
We love Taos. l enjoy visiting New Mexico and Arizona. While in Taos I had the opportunity to go out to the Pueblo’s. Very memorable experience. This brought back such good memories
The entire state of New Mexico is like a campers dream land, esp near Santa Fe NF. Valles Caldera, Fenton Lake area and Jemez Mountains area are very scenic and have historical sites. I'm pretty sure they allow remote camping. Bandelier National Historic site is close by and has Indian ruins and is very nice. Bonus while in the area is the National Lab Los Alamos and the Bradbury Museum (telling about the Manhatten Project) is a must see stop in Los Alamos. If not this trip, you will need to put it on your list for a return trip to that whole beautiful and historic area. Love your videos.
Rick you havd a great voice and temperment for narration. Please do more. Speaking of misinterpreting history i have a great book that i expect corrects an assumed history and movies about the Bounty (hint: upside down). That windy road sure reminded me of truckee and tahoe.
Loved every minute! Hi Rick and Linda! You've got some beautiful weather along with you in Taos. I just love it up there. Have you been to Ghost Ranch? Nice hiking up there. Lots to view in the great state of New Mexico! Safe travels 🤗
Always a fun and informative time when we hang out with Rick and Linda. So glad I learned of you guys through are old friend Shoestring man I miss that guy like he was family. Brian from Colorado ✌️🤠🦅
@@gonagain Yes I am the same way Rick. But I heard the other day that keeping your circle small is good. I like to think of the people I watch on you tube as friends and family I hope that is ok with you and Linda? Brian from Colorado ✌️🤠❤️
TY for the history lesson. Like Calamity Jane, Kit Carson is not so well known in the East. Beautiful scenery and interesting rock formations. We have one of those annoying cans. A royal pain in the... Thank you for bringing me along. Look forward to your videos. Be safe and Happy Trails until next week.
I thought everyone had heard of Calamity Jane, but now realize that some of our education on the west came from watching the great western movies and programs of the 50s and 60s!
So enjoyed this one. It's a type of wilderness I've never been to, a part of me just feels so surprised to see that foresty deserty land. The Kit Carson lesson will make me go look up the book one of your commenters shared - from my local library "Blood and Thunder". Appreciate your curiosity and knowledge, the gentleness and humor you two share with one another. Thanks again!
I am really enjoying your travels around NM, my home state. Take care; and Linda, sometimes I wish you would use a walking stick. You are brave. Happy camping!
It's amazing how much I missed having lived many years in NM. I had good friends in Taos that I often went and visited, but I never did any sight seeing there, never knew any of this history. I did more sight seeing in Santa Fe and down in White Sands than anywhere, but I lived all over NM from age 12 to 40. Now I'm here in MT and love it but I do miss NM too. Thanks for showing me what I missed!❤
I really didn't know much about Kit Carson. I knew the name, but that was about it. Nice bit of history sharing. Wonderful museum. That's an awesome campsite! Gotta say, I've never found a gas can just sitting in the woods. Nice can. She's not wrong. She is right there. I guess no matter where any of us go, we are always right here.
@@gonagain A good decision and good luck with one great woman prevents fair-to-middlin decisions/luck with several others, where the chances of running into truly problematic ones is an added risk. I almost pulled off the former, but ended up closer to the latter. As you say in this video, though, Rick and I should not judge each other without having been in each other's shoes. I'm no longer convinced that one path or the other is the more desirable one to have ended up on. Not that I recommend a divorce, or breakups from any serious attempt at a permanent relationship, as being fun. Nor can I advocate for relationships which never even reached that stage. Yet, any experience which doesn't kill you, makes you stronger and wiser. I keep telling myself that, and trying to convince myself it's not a case of sour grapes over (just barely) missing the original goal.
Love ypur alls vidios..linda and rick .best informational content..you all are more than perfect .loyal compassinate kind...articulate..and Linda a doll!!!
Interesting place to camp and hike! I noticed a barb wire fence along the way. Did you see any signs of cattle or sheep grazing in the area? Always fun to look around an area to see how it might have been used over time. 👍
Good morning guys, Kit's home was/is on my bucket list, but I haven't gotten there yet. Thanks for showing us around his home, I really enjoyed it. Are those Kit's original firearms in the house? I'm a very big fan of the Fur Trade/Mountain Man era, and love learning about guys like Kit, Bridger, Johnson etc. And I'm also a big fan of the Long Hunters too. Nice video guys, thanks for taking us along on your journey. JT
I’m a Native New Mexican and a product of generations of DNA exchange, so with one foot in the Indian world and the other in the Hispanic and other white genealogy I value all historical prospectives as; if you haven’t walked in their shoes, then don’t be too quick to pass judgement! I just love you channel 👍🏽 I watched a little more of this video and listened to your archeological assessments of different observed areas and I offer that the white satiny coating on some of the rocks you were finding appears to be opalized chalcedony (a quartz matrix- Opaque in appearance). Closely related to agate and jasper. From your description of where you camped near Cuba, NM (Jemez Mountains) you are on the outer rim of the Valles Caldera volcanic field and obsidian is very prevalent in that area.
Hi You seem to like your drone. Could you let me know which model? You should have seen Toas in the 70’s. I hope you traveled through the mountain highways when you were in area, beautiful scenery.
I don't think I've ever watched an UNinteresting video from you, but this one was that much more interesting than most! I've always known who Kit Carson was but never really knew much about his personal life until now. It was worth a dive, before, and even moreso now. Too, as we age we find we have more empathy for those brave souls who literally pioneered our country. And you are so right - "never judge a man without first walking in his moccasins" (to hamfistedly paraphrase an old adage to better fit the emptymindedness of the misfits who scream so loudly today). Bah. My mood might be better if I hadn't just purchased a poor batch of roasted coffee... yick. Why can't these well-known roasters be as consistent as they used to be? I digress. You will please forgive me.
Hello Rick & Linda. Wow, this was a nice video of such a beautiful location, I love it. Even more so, was the historical events of Kitt Carson. However, there is So Much controversy over this man and his travels and escapades I'm getting confused. Unfortunately as we know, many historical people have been shoved out and buried, as everyone has a different opinion of the past. This is Hard to Except and Understand. What say you about that?? Good information and a good video. Thanks. Vincenzo here/Eric
Hello Vinny! That's why it's important to read more than one source. I've read everything I can get my hands on concerning Kit Carson and he's been unfairly judged by hindsight. In his day he was fighting a war out here.
Do y'all ever take anything for elevation sickness, or to help with the elevation changes in altitude if you ever have any problems with the altitude. Have a good day.
It's less of an issue for someone living in Montana, than someone who lives at sea level. Mountain guides in South America tell you to chew on some coca leaves, though of course that's at much higher altitudes, and you'd get in trouble for that here.
If that was a white crystal in that obsidian flake that came from the Jemez Mountains - there is a large deposit of what is known as Jemez Obsidian where the native americans would travel from all over to collect it for their tools. I so miss that whole area...I'll get back there but I know it is not the same place I grew up in. I'm almost afraid to see all the change of 'modern society'. Were you able to visit Taos Pueblo?
We didn't get to visit Taos Pueblo on this trip. It was so busy there that we had to find more peaceful surroundings. Heavy traffic coupled with roadwork....
Interesting Kit Carson stuff. People are so ready to judge and condemn the past. I would be curious to here the feelings of the past on today. Quite a Juxtaposition I'm sure.
I appreciate your visit to the Kit Carson home in Taos. BUT. Please spend some time on the Navajo reservation speaking to them about their remembrance of the Long Walk deportation where they removed 10,000 and lost 3500 to starvation, desease, and shot by those Kit Carson commanded. Hweeldi, as it is known, was carried out under the command of General Charlton that should be known as nothing less than a form of genecide to the Dine' over one more land grab and hope for gold. Further, Rick and Linda, I live currently where Kit Carson was born, in Richmond, KY. And in addition lived in an adobe home in Alamosa. CO. which he also built as well as establishing Ft. Garland, east of Alamosa. I asked a Navajo weaver at Hubble trading post about Kit Carson, and in the true Navajo way, she went silent. There is a great history at the Hubble Trading post museum concerning Carson and the forced, cruel deportation march and incarceration of the Dine' between 1864-1868 at Ft. Sumner in eastern NM. Hope this clarifies an alternatve view of Carson's place in the "rest of the story."
The Ute and Apache tribes fought the Navahos for centuries and helped the US army with the Long Walk but it is all blamed on one man that likely saved thousands from just being exterminated when he agreed to oversee the job. The Apache would have wiped all Navahos off the earth if they could have. The Navahos also raided down into Mexico and the Mexican government fought them for years, but everything is blamed on one man. History is often twisted to fit victimhood when if the roles had changed the Navahos would have wiped out the Ute and Apache tribes if they could. Kit Carson was noted for stopping violence along the way by others. If he had not gone along the entire tribe may have been wiped out. People try to look at history through their life and we did not live in those times. It is never sensible to look at history through your life experiences as history was WAY different than now.
I've thought a bit about your response about Kit Carson. In my encounters with the current day Navajo, I've been deeply impressed by their response to the Long Walk history and their own. All over the reservation you will find one after another some of the most patriotic displays as proud Americans who have served and volunteered our nation in modern wars worldwide. In all their major festivals and rodeos the American flag is present, front and center. On mesas above even the smallest communities the flag flies proudly. In cemeteries on the graves of their veterans, Old Glory flies. Even with the background of the Long Walk and its terrible memory, the Navajo move forward in a hostile environment and in the difficult modern challenges of poverty, addictions, and social change. They remember but serve. This must be a a great measure of what I have experienced as a great nation of the Dine'. Be sure to visit Hubble Trading Post near Ganado, AZ, and it's museum to read the National Parks system history of the Long Walk of the Navajo people. I think it is a fair and complete read of the experience for the Dine'. I seriously doubt that Kit Carson would be considered a "friend."
truth or not fair or not my navajo wife and her relatives dating way back will never forgive and still talk about KC burning down their peach trees to run them out, i believe them
We learned in school Kit Carson was not very kind to native American tribes, I recall how he killed and sold native American scalps. As for insects well Pyrethrum is one of the oldest natural insecticides.
It was often kill or be killed, no phone to call the sheriff. History is often twisted by people that want to sell a book or that have their own reason to twist it and be a victim or claim others were always the victim. The Parks service has a reader board that says the word buffalo came from a native word, considering buffalo goes back at least to the Greek and was in all european languages because there was european buffalo and water buffalo it would mean that someone had to get that native word over 3,000 years ago and take it back to Greece, India and Egypt. Sadly that conflicts with other "facts" so we always must be careful of what agenda someone has when they teach about history.
it's ridiculous to judge people from a 100-200 years etc by todays standards, just think what they would have done back then to some of the nutjobs of today, heck what some countries would do to todays nutjobs in this day and age
The publications in the east built these men up by stretching the truth to sell newspapers and magazines. Kit Carson also had a major problem with that.
Let's not forget that Carson was a participant in two massacres of native women and children. Carson has also been charged with genocide of the Navajo. American hero? I don't think so.
Don't forget the Navahos kidnapped and killed thousands of Ute and Apache, they also raided into Mexico for centuries killing them. The Navahos would have wiped the Ute and Apache tribes out if they could, the Ute and Apache tribes were involved in the long walk and they likely would have exterminated the Navahos if Carson had not taken the job. He was noted for stopping soldiers and other tribes from attacking the Navahos, he may have been there when some were exterminated but he was noted by the army as stopping the attacks. History is often rewritten for victimhood, the Navahos would have wiped out all of the Ute if they had a chance. Looking at history from a modern day lis not sensible, history was nothing like we live now.
Blood and thunder is one of the best books written about Kit Carson. What an absolutely amazing man he was.
Agree 100% with not judging history without knowing the full story. Thanks for taking us along!
I agree, and also modern days realities and perspectives are so different from days in the past. But the trend is to put a label on all facets of history, and misjudging historical intentions.
Injustices and atrocities were carried out from both sides during our clash of civilizations. My wife's massacred families graves in Kansas are proof of tragedies of the past were not all one sided.
Judging the past by our modern mores is so presumptuous. Who says we are the epitome of perfection? Thanks for this video, it was great in so many ways.
👍👍👍 Today history is being changed, wiped out. Thanks for this great info on Kit Carson!!
You bet!
Oh, so you now know how it feels.
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Interesting and beautiful locations, you take us along to see the sites. I appreciate the knowledge that you both share. History is documented, then disproved, and time takes care of all things. We just have to watch, continue reading, and mostly observe all around us. Environment and how humans get along on this big rock, that's worth watching. Fantastic Friday ❤
This was another great video seeing New Mexico and the beautiful scenery
of the countryside with the nice camping areas there thanks for another video
and until next time take care Rick and Linda Thank You.🇺🇲🤠🐴🇺🇲
See you on the next one!
Recently, I had an extremely stimulating 3 hour conversation with an attourney practising in Chiuauhua City. The best vantage point to observe the USA seems to be from outside our borders!
Hmmmm..
Read a book about Kit Carson recently, he was one tough, hombre.
Looking at that cheesecake, I knew Linda was worth much more than 3 mules. Lol
Yeah, I got a deal.
Isn't it fascinating how you can still find places that show that humans were there and left relics for us to discover and wonder? Keep up with the great content!
We love finding those places. Thanks for watching, we appreciate your comment.
Thank you for another great video ❤
Thanks for watching!
😅😅😅Git Rick Linda,Lol, remember I can throw a Tomahawk. 😅😅😅 Tyvvm for bringing us all along with you.
Another great show. I really enjoyed seeing Kit Carson’s home and museum. He was born here in my hometown of Richmond, Ky. He was also a cousin to Daniel Boone. I actually live just minutes from Fort Boonesborough.
Linda, that pie looked delicious!!
Love your history videos! And the beautiful scenery where you camp. Thanks!
Great tour of Kit Carson home. Beautiful views 👍. Wow Kool a Knapp tool 👍
Wow, New Mexico is so beautiful.
:) WOW! Thanks MUCH for sharing! MUCH LOST in our History, and unlike today where they bury and try to change it :( ALL the BEST ans SAFE Travels! Cheers! :)
Hello I am sure that your Drs are very supportive of your many treks they sure beat walking around town or doing big mall circuits.
Good to see you out having fun.😊
You are exactly correct Rick about not judging history! Even when we think we know we don’t!! It was a tough life back then it most cases ! Thanks for sharing!👍😁
I've always found the SW very interesting both in geology and human history. Thanks for sharing your travels and explorations with us!
Broght back some memories, we love Taos, great food too :)
I love y'all, I never know what I will learn from you next 😘❌⭕, Iris and Little One 👋🐾
As usual, a great and informative video. My son gave me a copy of Bill O’Reilly’s book for fathers day, “Legends & Lies, The Real West”. The book devotes a sizable chapter to Kit Carson. Although I have read a little about him in the past this book really expressed what an interesting and accomplished individual he was. The book is well worth getting and reading for those interested in the old west.
I hadn't considered reading more about Kit Carson until this video. I'm looking forward to getting some books about Kit and The Long Walk. Good video.
Rick , wonderful information about Chivington and the Long Walk. You educate me ever week and show me things I have missed in my travels. Stay safe a thanks to Linda . She really led much of this episode .
Very welcome!
All of the rock work on US 64 is brand new. The highway was recently widened in that area. It used to be much narrower until last summer. Love your videos! Safe travels!
We love Taos. l enjoy visiting New Mexico and Arizona. While in Taos I had the opportunity to go out to the Pueblo’s. Very memorable experience. This brought back such good memories
We d didn't get to visit the pueblo this time. Maybe on another trip we'll get there!
Thanks for sharing the Kit Carson museum with us. I marvel at the tenacity of others who came before us.
Dang that's my home state. I wish I could've went and hangout with y'all. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for watching!
The entire state of New Mexico is like a campers dream land, esp near Santa Fe NF. Valles Caldera, Fenton Lake area and Jemez Mountains area are very scenic and have historical sites. I'm pretty sure they allow remote camping. Bandelier National Historic site is close by and has Indian ruins and is very nice. Bonus while in the area is the National Lab Los Alamos and the Bradbury Museum (telling about the Manhatten Project) is a must see stop in Los Alamos. If not this trip, you will need to put it on your list for a return trip to that whole beautiful and historic area. Love your videos.
I absolutely love your podcasts. I love the history and the out of the way places you travel and camp.
they guy left the gas can on purpose, he got tired of fighting that stupid spout
LOL! We know exactly what you're talking about.
Very cool video, beautiful country
Rick you havd a great voice and temperment for narration. Please do more. Speaking of misinterpreting history i have a great book that i expect corrects an assumed history and movies about the Bounty (hint: upside down). That windy road sure reminded me of truckee and tahoe.
Good education and awareness of your surroundings. Thanks
Our pleasure!
Loved every minute! Hi Rick and Linda! You've got some beautiful weather along with you in Taos. I just love it up there. Have you been to Ghost Ranch? Nice hiking up there. Lots to view in the great state of New Mexico! Safe travels 🤗
Always a fun and informative time when we hang out with Rick and Linda. So glad I learned of you guys through are old friend Shoestring man I miss that guy like he was family. Brian from Colorado ✌️🤠🦅
Hello Brian, I miss him very much too. I don't have many real friends in this life, but he was the best.
@@gonagain Yes I am the same way Rick. But I heard the other day that keeping your circle small is good. I like to think of the people I watch on you tube as friends and family I hope that is ok with you and Linda? Brian from Colorado ✌️🤠❤️
Absolutely!
Great video loved the ending too funny...you know a good rope for getting down the steep hills works great..
I adore you two and I love your travels and story telling. Thank you both. You are treasures to me.
Thank you so much!
Very enjoyable Rick & Linda.
Glad you enjoyed it!
TY for the history lesson. Like Calamity Jane, Kit Carson is not so well known in the East. Beautiful scenery and interesting rock formations. We have one of those annoying cans. A royal pain in the...
Thank you for bringing me along. Look forward to your videos. Be safe and Happy Trails until next week.
I thought everyone had heard of Calamity Jane, but now realize that some of our education on the west came from watching the great western movies and programs of the 50s and 60s!
I enjoy watching you guys scavenge and listen to what you think artifacts might have been used for. Have a good weekend
Thanks, you too!
So enjoyed this one. It's a type of wilderness I've never been to, a part of me just feels so surprised to see that foresty deserty land. The Kit Carson lesson will make me go look up the book one of your commenters shared - from my local library "Blood and Thunder". Appreciate your curiosity and knowledge, the gentleness and humor you two share with one another. Thanks again!
Blood and Thunder is a great book on Kit Carson.
Like number 814. Lot or good stuff in his video my friend 👍🏻💛🙏🏻
Thank you, Bill!!!
I am really enjoying your travels around NM, my home state. Take care; and Linda, sometimes I wish you would use a walking stick. You are brave. Happy camping!
CheeseCake. You are one lucky man.
It's amazing how much I missed having lived many years in NM. I had good friends in Taos that I often went and visited, but I never did any sight seeing there, never knew any of this history. I did more sight seeing in Santa Fe and down in White Sands than anywhere, but I lived all over NM from age 12 to 40. Now I'm here in MT and love it but I do miss NM too. Thanks for showing me what I missed!❤
Glad you enjoyed it from that perspective. Thanks for watching!
Good video.😊
Enjoyed keep them coming lol
Kit Carson sounds like a character I saw in a movie, Into The West.
I really didn't know much about Kit Carson. I knew the name, but that was about it. Nice bit of history sharing. Wonderful museum. That's an awesome campsite! Gotta say, I've never found a gas can just sitting in the woods. Nice can. She's not wrong. She is right there. I guess no matter where any of us go, we are always right here.
You're right about that! And here we are.
rick your modern day kit carson, you didnt have to kill for you bride, but you did rescue linda or was it linda rescued you?great trip finds
I rescued Rick.
@@gonagain A good decision and good luck with one great woman prevents fair-to-middlin decisions/luck with several others, where the chances of running into truly problematic ones is an added risk. I almost pulled off the former, but ended up closer to the latter. As you say in this video, though, Rick and I should not judge each other without having been in each other's shoes. I'm no longer convinced that one path or the other is the more desirable one to have ended up on.
Not that I recommend a divorce, or breakups from any serious attempt at a permanent relationship, as being fun. Nor can I advocate for relationships which never even reached that stage. Yet, any experience which doesn't kill you, makes you stronger and wiser. I keep telling myself that, and trying to convince myself it's not a case of sour grapes over (just barely) missing the original goal.
Love ypur alls vidios..linda and rick
.best informational content..you all are more than perfect
.loyal compassinate kind...articulate..and Linda a doll!!!
Videos...darn...I need to spell check...
Awesome… NM is a great state
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In the one close-up pic, I swear it was Peter Weller.
Cheers
Love your videos. You 2 are great to watch.
Thank you!
Like# 167 - Some needed Friday Gonagain Goodness - Back in Tucson and no Pie survived up in Montana...
Cheesecake while camping. Looked so good.
It was!
I enjoyed your video. There is a lot of good content with the history of Kit Carson. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting place to camp and hike! I noticed a barb wire fence along the way. Did you see any signs of cattle or sheep grazing in the area? Always fun to look around an area to see how it might have been used over time. 👍
Yes, signs of cattle grazing there. Its fun to imagine what it was like "in the old days".
Good morning guys,
Kit's home was/is on my bucket list, but I haven't gotten there yet. Thanks for showing us around his home, I really enjoyed it. Are those Kit's original firearms in the house?
I'm a very big fan of the Fur Trade/Mountain Man era, and love learning about guys like Kit, Bridger, Johnson etc. And I'm also a big fan of the Long Hunters too.
Nice video guys, thanks for taking us along on your journey.
JT
Always a pleasure to have you along, JT!
@@gonagain
Rick,
Were those Kit Carson's original firearms in his house?
No more transmission or oil leak problems? Thanks for the tour and history. Enjoy your trip.
The leak is still there but on the bright side, no trouble with the transmission.
I’m a Native New Mexican and a product of generations of DNA exchange, so with one foot in the Indian world and the other in the Hispanic and other white genealogy I value all historical prospectives as; if you haven’t walked in their shoes, then don’t be too quick to pass judgement!
I just love you channel 👍🏽 I watched a little more of this video and listened to your archeological assessments of different observed areas and I offer that the white satiny coating on some of the rocks you were finding appears to be opalized chalcedony (a quartz matrix-
Opaque in appearance). Closely related to agate and jasper.
From your description of where you camped near Cuba, NM (Jemez Mountains) you are on the outer rim of the Valles Caldera volcanic field and obsidian is very prevalent in that area.
Thank you for the information, appreciate the input and hope you continue to help us out in identifying rocks.
Cool video...i am heading to Taos next week and was wondering where to camp.
It's a nice area with plenty of places to camp a little further from town.
Awesome I have similar trailer as you but I tow Honda Transalp in there too and take it out to sleep@@gonagain
Hot springs there
Carson did not get enough credit for all he did. Without him California probably would not be part of the Unite States
I think that I remember that he and John Fremont were arrested by the Mexican authorities when they went to California.
Hi
You seem to like your drone. Could you let me know which model?
You should have seen Toas in the 70’s. I hope you traveled through the mountain highways when you were in area, beautiful scenery.
The drone is the DJI Mini4 Pro.
I don't think I've ever watched an UNinteresting video from you, but this one was that much more interesting than most! I've always known who Kit Carson was but never really knew much about his personal life until now. It was worth a dive, before, and even moreso now. Too, as we age we find we have more empathy for those brave souls who literally pioneered our country. And you are so right - "never judge a man without first walking in his moccasins" (to hamfistedly paraphrase an old adage to better fit the emptymindedness of the misfits who scream so loudly today). Bah. My mood might be better if I hadn't just purchased a poor batch of roasted coffee... yick. Why can't these well-known roasters be as consistent as they used to be? I digress. You will please forgive me.
We've bought coffee many times only to end up donating it to our daughter's office (they drink anything!)
Hello Rick & Linda. Wow, this was a nice video of such a beautiful location, I love it. Even more so, was the historical events of Kitt Carson. However, there is So Much controversy over this man and his travels and escapades I'm getting confused. Unfortunately as we know, many historical people have been shoved out and buried, as everyone has a different opinion of the past. This is Hard to Except and Understand. What say you about that?? Good information and a good video. Thanks. Vincenzo here/Eric
Hello Vinny! That's why it's important to read more than one source. I've read everything I can get my hands on concerning Kit Carson and he's been unfairly judged by hindsight. In his day he was fighting a war out here.
Do they have an Army Surplus store in Taos?! 😂
Do y'all ever take anything for elevation sickness, or to help with the elevation changes in altitude if you ever have any problems with the altitude. Have a good day.
It's less of an issue for someone living in Montana, than someone who lives at sea level. Mountain guides in South America tell you to chew on some coca leaves, though of course that's at much higher altitudes, and you'd get in trouble for that here.
It takes us about a day to acclimate to the higher elevations. In the meantime we just take things slow, drink lots of water.
Yup. Kit Carson was a good man. A certain coworker tried to tell me otherwise. I never took her opinions to heart anyway.
If that was a white crystal in that obsidian flake that came from the Jemez Mountains - there is a large deposit of what is known as Jemez Obsidian where the native americans would travel from all over to collect it for their tools. I so miss that whole area...I'll get back there but I know it is not the same place I grew up in. I'm almost afraid to see all the change of 'modern society'. Were you able to visit Taos Pueblo?
We didn't get to visit Taos Pueblo on this trip. It was so busy there that we had to find more peaceful surroundings. Heavy traffic coupled with roadwork....
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Interesting Kit Carson stuff. People are so ready to judge and condemn the past. I would be curious to here the feelings of the past on today. Quite a Juxtaposition I'm sure.
Yeah, it would be interesting to read our history 100 years from now. I guess that would depend on who wrote it though.
@@gonagain Yes, history is written by the victor! My guess is this generation will be treated like Dallas, JR's Dream...
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I appreciate your visit to the Kit Carson home in Taos. BUT. Please spend some time on the Navajo reservation speaking to them about their remembrance of the Long Walk deportation where they removed 10,000 and lost 3500 to starvation, desease, and shot by those Kit Carson commanded. Hweeldi, as it is known, was carried out under the command of General Charlton that should be known as nothing less than a form of genecide to the Dine' over one more land grab and hope for gold. Further, Rick and Linda, I live currently where Kit Carson was born, in Richmond, KY. And in addition lived in an adobe home in Alamosa. CO. which he also built as well as establishing Ft. Garland, east of Alamosa. I asked a Navajo weaver at Hubble trading post about Kit Carson, and in the true Navajo way, she went silent. There is a great history at the Hubble Trading post museum concerning Carson and the forced, cruel deportation march and incarceration of the Dine' between 1864-1868 at Ft. Sumner in eastern NM. Hope this clarifies an alternatve view of Carson's place in the "rest of the story."
Thank you.
The Ute and Apache tribes fought the Navahos for centuries and helped the US army with the Long Walk but it is all blamed on one man that likely saved thousands from just being exterminated when he agreed to oversee the job. The Apache would have wiped all Navahos off the earth if they could have. The Navahos also raided down into Mexico and the Mexican government fought them for years, but everything is blamed on one man. History is often twisted to fit victimhood when if the roles had changed the Navahos would have wiped out the Ute and Apache tribes if they could. Kit Carson was noted for stopping violence along the way by others. If he had not gone along the entire tribe may have been wiped out. People try to look at history through their life and we did not live in those times. It is never sensible to look at history through your life experiences as history was WAY different than now.
I've thought a bit about your response about Kit Carson. In my encounters with the current day Navajo, I've been deeply impressed by their response to the Long Walk history and their own. All over the reservation you will find one after another some of the most patriotic displays as proud Americans who have served and volunteered our nation in modern wars worldwide. In all their major festivals and rodeos the American flag is present, front and center. On mesas above even the smallest communities the flag flies proudly. In cemeteries on the graves of their veterans, Old Glory flies. Even with the background of the Long Walk and its terrible memory, the Navajo move forward in a hostile environment and in the difficult modern challenges of poverty, addictions, and social change. They remember but serve. This must be a a great measure of what I have experienced as a great nation of the Dine'. Be sure to visit Hubble Trading Post near Ganado, AZ, and it's museum to read the National Parks system history of the Long Walk of the Navajo people. I think it is a fair and complete read of the experience for the Dine'. I seriously doubt that Kit Carson would be considered a "friend."
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@@gonagain Thanks for your quick response. Really enjoy your videos. I have learned several things watching and and gathering ideas.
truth or not fair or not my navajo wife and her relatives dating way back will never forgive and still talk about KC burning down their peach trees to run them out, i believe them
I believe them too. We respect their feelings toward Kit Carson.
It's not really the accomplishments of life that cause people like Kit Carson to be remembered fondly by the people who knew him.
We learned in school Kit Carson was not very kind to native American tribes, I recall how he killed and sold native American scalps. As for insects well Pyrethrum is one of the oldest natural insecticides.
It was often kill or be killed, no phone to call the sheriff. History is often twisted by people that want to sell a book or that have their own reason to twist it and be a victim or claim others were always the victim. The Parks service has a reader board that says the word buffalo came from a native word, considering buffalo goes back at least to the Greek and was in all european languages because there was european buffalo and water buffalo it would mean that someone had to get that native word over 3,000 years ago and take it back to Greece, India and Egypt. Sadly that conflicts with other "facts" so we always must be careful of what agenda someone has when they teach about history.
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it's ridiculous to judge people from a 100-200 years etc by todays standards, just think what they would have done back then to some of the nutjobs of today, heck what some countries would do to todays nutjobs in this day and age
Daniel Boone was said to have killed lots of Indians. But Boone said that he only killed one. And was remorseful for doing that.
The publications in the east built these men up by stretching the truth to sell newspapers and magazines. Kit Carson also had a major problem with that.
Let's not forget that Carson was a participant in two massacres of native women and children. Carson has also been charged with genocide of the Navajo. American hero? I don't think so.
That's true, too.
Don't forget the Navahos kidnapped and killed thousands of Ute and Apache, they also raided into Mexico for centuries killing them. The Navahos would have wiped the Ute and Apache tribes out if they could, the Ute and Apache tribes were involved in the long walk and they likely would have exterminated the Navahos if Carson had not taken the job. He was noted for stopping soldiers and other tribes from attacking the Navahos, he may have been there when some were exterminated but he was noted by the army as stopping the attacks. History is often rewritten for victimhood, the Navahos would have wiped out all of the Ute if they had a chance. Looking at history from a modern day lis not sensible, history was nothing like we live now.