Well some of them I get, this xs has had a lot of training with her dad and is probably close to his speed, and even if the negative speed force boosted savatar I doubt he is actually faster than her or has any where near as many skills as she does, altho he is able to keep up with her.
@@winterwings28 What progress, other than show how weak Barry is. This is the same Barry that ran around the Earth multiple times who just lost his first duel to Eddie Thawne who's had his powers for what 5 minutes?
@@hyperartfan7952bruh fuck naw savitar was dragging Barry’s bum ass through the speed force killed his girl and destroyed him every time they fought bruh that’s so wack
@Vivyf So my personal opinion is that God speed lost to Cecil is actually questionable but there will definitely be a reason. But with Nora I can definitely say that she deservedly won because Savitar is Berry or a time relic, which means that the time relic Berry always knew what the real Barry would do, which is why he was always one step ahead of the weather. and since Savitar fought against Nora, he could no longer foresee the intention - apart from that, when she was impaled, she prevented it with a face. so my personal opinion is that Nora deserved to win but that's just my personal opinion but I also have to say and admit that a Zoom who was the best supervillain of them all was very heavily nerfed like everyone else I'm happy about the happy ending What ultimately happened, but it's a shame to annoy an opponent as strong as Zoom, who I really enjoy.
Nora has read about Savitar in the Flash musemum so she knows about him trying to stab people from behind and how to counter it . Cecile's and Killer Frost wins are questionable tho Caitlin could of won eventually she know Zoom's tricks Zoom should'nt have lost that easy tho. they should have put up more of a fight but sadly this is the outcome rip 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@B1ueberr7 I have nothing against the actor playing Cecile. But the way they made her no diffs God Speed and FLYING?? It was just a huge kick to the balls. They knew. Cecile isn't liked by a VERY LARGE MAJORITY of people in the community. But we simply asked for less focus on her when the story clearly has a GOAL lead character that deserves to shine. But nope, the writers actually sat there and saw that there was nothing wrong with how Barry THE FLASH was portrayed in his final episode. Did they think that everyone would cancel them if they saw this BARRY, simply out classing most of his old enemies all on his own in this finale?
I don’t usually like to be overly critical but good god like this shit is lame af and I’ve seen enough lame stuffs from later seasons and they still seize to surprise me…, they were doing good for last 3 episodes and then…yikes
Lmao yep, speedsters are always wayyy too OP in these things... if they actually moved at different speeds or had different limitations, variations etc. it might actually be interesting.... but a bunch of equally-fast speedsters is like two repelling poles on a magnet, it's implausible that they could even hurt each other except if they happened to catch the other unawares; they could essentially never engage in open combat... well they **could**, but it wouldn't be even remotely compelling to watch. Just two guys chasing each other without ever getting closer, and for one to give up would mean guaranteed defeat/death, so the "battle" would only conceivably end if they both called it off.
@annavirag546literally EVERY comic has this issue. Batman and Spiderman have the only interesting rogues gallery at this point. Everyone else is just "evil guy with the heroes'powers."
The fight between Cecile and Godspeed had me rolling on the floor laughing. She goofily waves her arms and single handedly defeats and army of speedsters just like that. Also apparently she can just fly now because why not? The writers forgot what her powers were a long time ago lol
i was legit begging godspeed in front of my tv screen to kill her how tf did i get hyped for a whole week for this shit lmao stayed up late on school day to watch this air on netflix fucked up my physics test for this lmao
Facts this hurt my feelings how bad it was. Like OH MY GOD nah bro Savitar was whoopin Barry's wimp bottom dragging him through the speed force and he gets killed by his own daughter taking off a piece of his armor and "stabbing him" with it even tho it appears to just scratch the surface
@@thomasroyal_81 And I love the part where Reverse Flash, the arch nemesis of the show's "main character" if we'll even call him that, gets defeated by the power of love and friendship by Allegra. He's as fast as like LIGHT. how did he just stand there and watch her power up and explode on him? Same with Godspeed. How is Cecile able to react with her psychic powers when he can run like MACH 150
It took Barry, Oliver, and Firestorm to defeat Thawne in a 3v1. Allegra 1 shots him. It took Cisco, Frost, Barry, Jay, and Wally to defeat Savitar. Nora 1 shots him. Barry was never fast enough to defeat zoom. Fake Caitlyn one shots him It took Barry and Thawne to defeat Godspeed in a 2v1. Cecile defeats him. On of the worst finales I’ve ever scene. It’s like the writers have never seen their own show Edit: so I was wrong, Barry did defeat zoom. Cut me some slack guys, that was 8 years ago.
the episode was very bad and the assembled villains looked like paper. Before Cecile put her fingers to her head, Godspeed should have killed her, it doesn't make any sense. This is the worst of the arrowverse endings.
Still, how does one vibrate *particularly* their belly and nothing else? Were they hungry or something? And how did she just casually jump out of Savitar's grip
It doesn't even look at threatening as the hand vibrating because it doesn't kill anyone. It's just a attack with bo substance because no danger seems to be done
I honestly think it would’ve been cool to end with Barry’s peanut gallery watching him do 5v1, and truly showcasing how fast he’d gotten. Outmatching all these speedsters in the past with not just speed, but his wits and training. It could still end with Reverse Flash and Barry having their (umpteenth) final battle! I get that the dynamic is Team Flash and friends and family, but it would’ve been cool to have him fight for everything on the line by himself.
They could've put Godspeed to deal with Team Flash by himself with his clones while the original aids the evil speedsters in the fight against The Flash. I think it would be an interesting way to use his powers and to nerf the shit out of him, since he's technically the fastest evil speedster, or at least he should be.
Have the peanut gallery kidnapped so they won't be in his ear the whole time. That way he proves he can do it alone, and only keeps them around because he wants them there. Not because he needs them
Potentially the best final episode ever, executed the worst possible way. Could've had so many fantastic returns and fights but instead you have insurmountable villains beaten by new metas in seconds.
They should have returned the villains at the start of the season, then put effort into making the final season have a single driven narrative to build up to this moment
The plot armor was insane, especially with Nora and Cecil. Nora had the biggest plot armor ever, more than calebcity’s “when the writers only focus on progressing the plot”
It makes sense, most of them are from early seasons when Mach 3-6 was impressive speeds. Barry has been doing time stops for awhile now. Of course they would be nothing by comparison and yeah the others know how to handle them better. Nora is much faster than S3 barry who fought Savitar, she should have easily beat him, not just the trick. Cecile is a bit weird but Telepaths are an automatic cheat code anyway.
@@TheLastSane1 There's no way you are actually trying to justify this scene. Savitar Mach 3-6? lmfao. Barry season 1 dodged lightning as he saved Joe in the process. Telepaths are an automatic cheat code? Cecile shouldn't even be able to process, let alone react to any of the things Godspeed throws at her, tf?
@@grizzlyv2.076 Throw at her? Like what the dude was so confident he fucking stod there. Because guess what, that is how he has alway sbeen depicted as being very sure of himself. And sorry but speed of thought is still pretty fucking quick. And yeah I was being hyperbolic with the Mach-3-6 in truth the best feats done in Season 3 was Mach 100 if im being kind.
@@TheLastSane1cmon dude You look patethic trying to justify this crap. It doesn't holds up. This show is pure shit. One thing is watching and enjoy shit and another is convincing yourself shit is tastefull
At this point I just feel bad for godspeed Dude gets bodied by Thawne in the comics and doesn't even have the statue at the Flash museum Is portrayed absolutely horrendously in the TV show and gets clowned on by The fandom of said TV show And to top it all off gets absolutely thrashed by someone with normal human reaction time
@@nicolewhite3157 I bursted out laughing when I saw how he literally stood there saying "You beat the clones, but I'm the real deal" AND THEN HE DIES WITHOUT EVEN *TRYING* TO ATTACK HER ONCE 💀💀💀💀 HE MOCKED CECIL AND THEN DIED WITHOUT MOVING A MUSCLE, I CAN'T BRO
This would've been so much better if the team Flash side was Barry, Jay, Wally, Bart, and Nora. That way it would've been a full on speedster vs speedster fight
I thought the Spector or Black Flash would come in due to the timeline breaking down oh no let's have this piece of bullshit instead for a episode Flash Yet again DISAPPOINTS 😞
As soon as Savitar got resurrected by Cobalt Blue, he already lost his memory. Only this time, whatever is Barry is currently doing is no longer Savitar's memory. In that previous season, whatever Barry is currently doing automatically becomes Savitar's memories. Savitar's memory is no longer linked to Barry Allen's memories. Now Savitar is Barry Allen's clone without that memory. Savitar can no longer keep track of what Barry is doing which means he cannot use Barry's memories to know what kind of weakness Nora has. That is why this Savitar gotten weaker compared to the previous season.
@@hp2546like fr wouldn’t you want to see how he would react and how it might be possible for him to change like if they brought them back at the start and just had a 24 episode season about the villains and there reaction to the flash team it could’ve been a good season and dare I say it amazing but all we got was this dog sh!t
The nora has the biggest plot armor my day is completely ruined literally savitar is my favorite but nora defeated easily for me season 4 is last season rest season are dead especially this season
You know what? That actually makes sense now 😂. All they do is talk big. Yet when it comes to the REAL thing, they’re all playing “protect the castle 🏰” (them) in this case. Because they’re too chicken 🍗 to even do it. So they go after his family and teammates instead. Which didn’t do jack
Godspeed vs Cecile truly is the fight of all time. It's the first fight where I don't know who I wanted to lose more. Honestly I was dreaming they would just end up blowing each other up lol
Nora probably knows the most about Savitar and the damn dagger no way she didn't grow up hearing anout Nora Prime but as for Godspeed that part was goofy as hell what power did Cecille even use
@@achitect2021Exactly man. Btw, what did you think of the RF’s personality this season? Maybe holding up to the first? At the very least to me it felt like it made sense for a villain like Thawne
Seem like everyone had covid, everyone keeping each other at arm lenght, throwing lightning at each other. They are so thoughtfull. Also love Zoom gray mask with a different shade than the rest of his costume ❤
My two complaints for this scene is: 1. Zoom isn't sparking his speed force like he's supposed to. 2. Most Anticlimactic fight in the history of Flash history, I mean what happened to Zoom's time remnants, or Godspeed's sonic attack, or Savitar exiting his suit to fight Nora with the face and voice if her father. So much potential for the series finale gone to waste
It would've been cool if the villains were winning at first but than Savitar decided to betray them because of Nora since she convinced him that despite everything he was still her dad a hero
@@lordhawkeye And that's not the only one a better idea for this season would've been to have all these guys from the start working together throughout the season. You know really let these guys get to know and work with one another than have it all lead to this a final battle between all of them
I actually like it. Each of these fights are between people with a history Barry and eddie Nora and savitar Caitlin (kinda) and zoom Cecile and Godspeed Thawne was just commiting shenanigans
Viewers: why would you bring back RF, Zoom, Savitar, and godspeed only to have them get taken out by side characters like chumps? Writers: to give fans hope Viewers: hope? Writers: so I can rip it away from them
Because the team know the villains and thus how they thing and can plan for their behavior (lets face it most of them are predictable). Nora SHOULD be faster than s3 flash who's best feat was like Mach 30 and maybe Mach 100 if you stretch it a LOT. Zoom is a joke, he was always a joke and he is fighting someone he thinks is Caitlyn and who is a literally goddess so yeah he is gonna get bodied because he thinks he can play her head and nope not gonna work and she doesn't even think the same so he can't predict her. All the villains are dropped because the heroes know them and the heroes are cocky bastards who think they can easily win.
@@TheLastSane1 Savitar got boosted by the negative speedforce and SOMEHOW died over a simple stab that looked like it just scratched his suit and something he could easily react to but meh fair enough. Zoom could react to dozens of bullets and catching them with one hand but instead he just stands there while he sees his enemy charging up his lightning and can’t react to it? Even if he’s cocky he would be fast enough to at least dodge a fucking lightning bolt. Cecile can fly now? Faster than fucking godspeed? Then proceeds to react to dozens of godspeed clones and defeats them by flaying her hands around like an idiot? Maybe the other deaths could be slightly justified but there’s no fucking way she could react to dozens of speedsters when she isn’t even one herself. Thawne’s death was ig fair since he dropped his guard but no way in hell Chester could survive that. The villains are dumb and cocky but no way that they are dumb enough and cocky enough to not be able to kill at least ONE of the members of team flash like wtf
The recycled running 🥵, No Cisco 😢, the villains being clowns and plot armor 😂, and the ending was heartwarming. I rate this ending 3/10, and I thank Grant for 9 years, he is the Best Flash but damn that s*** was dissatisfying for a finale, 9 years just for that.
Episode 9 & 10 were really good, 11 and 12 was good but not in 9 & 10’s level. I thought they were hyping us up for the best episode in the show yet… and they pulled a CW move and made the most dogshi ending possible… Really wasted Grant, Tom, and Teddy with their great acting… I wish they would rewrite that crap all over again
@@Eundo21 Honestly if the show ended kind of like episode 10 I would be totally fine with it. The show coming full circle would have been a perfect ending in my opinion
@@xxRafaelProductionsWhat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
SPOILERS AHEAD: It's incredible how in the end the whole team got superspeed and super strength in the last episode that allowed Cecile to fly and also defeat dozens of Godspeed clones when just last season they had an all out Speed Force war. I also love how Kiyone basically told us that 'no one is going to die tonight, like she was breaking the 4th wall', and how Chuck had superpowers that he didn't know about. It was incredible how powerful Nora was and was able to phase her belly button and spine so that Savitar would fail to stab her. Then she casually just stabbed him once - remember when Jesse did it he ran off - but this time he just laid down and basically went into a coma. Then Zoom decided he would rather just threaten to kill everyone and then run around and around in the tunnel rather than you know...kill everyone. I'd like to think that the last time I saw Thawne this season was in episode 10, so I totally blocked that part out because it brings into question why Eddie needs to be the avatar at all. Then after absorbing massive amounts of negative speed force energy, I really loved how pep talks and the power of friendship lead to an awkward friendship between the positive and negative speed force. It would have been incredibly satisfying if the bad guys won. I loved Seasons 1-2 and even 3. Then there were some good moments, but imagine ending such an epic legacy with a 13 episode season that only had 1 episode that didn't absolutely suck.
@@dgrease Technically, they weren't dead for a long time. They were taken from the moment they died or were defeated similar to the villains in No Way Home
@@ryang54712 We are 6 seasons past Savitar. Barry could straight run circles around Savitar and remember he needed the Philosophers stone and that suit to even be a threat to S3 Barry. Nora is much faster than S3 Barry
I was so pissed off that I searched for information: human mind at its peak can react in a time of 0.3/0.35s. Now imagining that godspeed has a speed superior to 100000 km/h (which is possible) and the distance between godspeed and cecile was about 100m (0.1 km) the time needed for godspeed to reach cecille and stab her in the chest is 0.1/100000 = 0.000001h = 0.00006 min = 3.6 ms. Now how is possible that cecille can react in a time of 3.6 ms considering she hasn't showed any feat of high speed thinking??
Fr RF actually tried to obliterate him from existence but this show really wants everyone to survive so they put the stupidest shit in it an make the villains lose like nothing it’s pathetic AF
Cecile can fly now ?! Loved how Thawne was just sitting there and went “hey” 😂. But seriously, Savitar and Godspeed are taken down too easy and quickly.
You know what is even funnier. apparently they were faster than they ever have been due to the negative speed force but somehow the characters with no super speed are faster??
@@godzilla234ful easily explained with their powers. Cecile can fly with her telekinesis, and she would be able to sense where a speedster is before they could ever touch her with her empathetic abilities, Khione is a literal God so she can just grant herself speedster powers, Savitar WAS actually faster than Nora, but being from the future is has it's advantages, including knowing what move your enemy is going to pull, while Eobard's egotistical dumbass let his guard down and Allegra was able to get a shot off him. Barry and Eddie seemed on equal ground and footing.
@@ray_vex6045 hell no Nora could have taken Savitar after S5 no way Barry and Iris didn't teach her how to nuetralize Savitar and the damn dagger as for Cecile I agree what was that
@@ray_vex6045 cecile yeah (no hate for the actress) but for nora i don't think she would died by savitar i scream when savitar grab nora and was about to stab her the way he stab iris I scream "JUST PHASE THROUGH, YOUR A GODDAMN SPEEDSTER" and im glad she did phase because if she did get stab then i would be mad but i can't believe the villains got defeated so easily
The finale as a whole might have been totally disappointing but Wells realising that it was all being held together by someone at Star labs and going there was totally on point.
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Why would you bring back? The villains just have the side characters beat them. And then the fake out Chester death. How dare you Eric Wallace, how much do you hate the fans?
The writters had some good ideas for the episodes and I'm glad the villains were back, but it doesn't make sense how they were defeated lol these are extremely powerful villains, they should've won.
Ever since season 3 there have been really good ideas on the show but the problem has been the execution of them. But this finale really took the cake as I don’t know who came up with the brilliant idea of having the villains being defeated by side characters with minimum effort.
1:52 Listen, I would understand if Cecil could stop 1 or 2 Godspeed clones, because when speedsters create copies (not time remnants) of themselves, it temporarily weakens them. That would make some sense. BUT after stopping the first 2 clones with telekinesis, the rest should then be able to attack her just before she could react!
This has been a problem from the start unfortunately. Look at the snart fiasco in season 1 for example. Guy has no super speed and yet beats Barry so many times when he could've just taken his gun/knocked him out
Godspeed teaming up with Thawne makes no sense as it was Thawne who killed him to begin with to help Flash. I'd keep Godspeed out entirely. Savitar should've just killed him immediately upon entry after he said god of speed. He's basically a meme at this point anyway. It should've been Flash vs Eddie, Thawne, Zoom and Savitar by himself proving he is the fastest of all.
@@edwardvincentlaybournwalle4991 flash universe works differently bro. there u can be a speedster and apparently lose all the time to non speedsters for example. Logic isn't a thing there so physics is a long shot
Funny indeed considering he pretended for a whole year to be paralyzed from the waist down. Second time Thawne got nostalgic with STAR Labs, the first time being when he spoke to Supergirl. Also, 2:40 : a direct reference to Flashpoint, when Thawne said the exact same line to Barry : "Hello Barry." "Thawne..!" "I love what you've done with the place." "THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!"
@@mickwoodfield9980lets see, nora has 0 chance in defeating savatar, cecile killed godspeed and clones with her goofy moves, I can go on and on, this is the first time I wanted the villains to absolutely obliterate the heros beside barry😂. Like if this was fr, zoom, thawne and savitar would have been enough to destroy all of them. Its embarassing for the villains, thats why I stopped watching at the end of season 5, goes downhill after that.
It's sad and humiliating to see Zoom, Savitar and Thawne in this way, they are badass Villains and they are very scary and traumatizing when they arrive.. but in this episode they are made of puppets😢😔😭 I wanted to see more interactions between them,each knowing each other's origin/history and death and who they hate the most on Team Flash One after the other in order and explaining about the daughter in Barry Allen the daughter of the Flash and imagine if Savitar comes out of the armor and everyone is scared and sees the Barry Allen/Copy of the evil from of the future and a murderer As zoom said he was going to be like him The dialogue between them would be incredible.. too bad they messed up everything so we could find out who was the fastest from there to because 3 of them created the Flash/Barry Allen and 2 created Nora imagine them discovering that Barry He has a daughter and it's their fault that they created the 2 + Zoom saying that he also knows the girl. Besides,imagine if Cicada and Clifford Devoe/The thinker had appeared Also on the team, it would be worse than it already was.. I can't believe they made this with these powerful characters,It could be better but they humiliated and laughed at them they were made of muggles and puppets like shit it's revolting and disrespectful.. Who also feels this?..😔😭 like and Bye!
Zoom wanted to make Barry just like him so seeing Savitar become what he always wanted. I could definitely see a friendship between the two. Two sociopaths going on killing sprees. Zoom torturing Khione whatever the hell Cailtlyn is now for leaving him & Savitar torturing Iris for killing him/ abandoning him. So many missed opportunities.
Right? The treatment they got and the way they got defeated was just disrespectful. Like, why bother reviving them at all if this is the treatment they’re gonna get? Makes no sense
This should have been a 2 part finale. Evil speedsters really showing what they can do and playing to their strengths. Zoom was a menace in S2, Savitar knew everything cause he lived it, Thawne being well thawne, Godspeed using his ability to suck the speed force out by using vibrations, and Cobalt Blue is new so he gets a pass. Have them be such a force to barry that it requires everything he knows and has done really to help. Like really wrap it up of what he has learned over the years. You have S1-3 baddies and they barely do a thing.
I get that they all have a connection to the negative speed force thanks to Eddie but why make their lightning permanently red? Why not just make it a mixture of their normal lightning and red lightning like Nora when she tapped into the NSF?
“Your mother escaped her fate, but you won’t”. I find it crazy how Savitar acknowledged that’s the daughter of his original self, basically his daughter. Yet, he still killed his own daughter. That’s insane 😭 he really gone in the deep end.
Not really his daughter, he is a clone that has developed an entire new personality, morals, and goals from his original self, he is more like a twin at this point.
@@Proximity-, so that specific timeremete had sex with Iris to produce Nora? What I said still stands. He is a clone that gained his own will, he is completely different from Barry, basically a doppelganger.
@@OneEyedCloud01 oh please. This man has been getting punched by normal humans since the begging. That can’t be explained by inexperience it’s just dumb writing
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I've never wanted the villains to murder the good guys more lol
Lol exactly. This is shit
Lol 😆
Especially Cecil
Dude Savitar should’ve fucking murdered Nora since when could u control your stomach enough to make it vibrate specifically there and no where else
😂 On everything bruh
I’m tired of the goofy ish.
The villains in this is like when you finally unlock the boss as a playable character.
lol fr
Fr
Exactly lol
Yes! Totally 😂
*cough*ShaoKhan*cough*
The baddies were defeated so easily it makes you wonder why it took Barry an entire season to beat them.
Ig it shows the progress the team has made throughout the show??
Right?? Like Savitar just getting stabbed was lame af. And of course Godspeed gets Cecile'd.
Well some of them I get, this xs has had a lot of training with her dad and is probably close to his speed, and even if the negative speed force boosted savatar I doubt he is actually faster than her or has any where near as many skills as she does, altho he is able to keep up with her.
@@winterwings28 What progress, other than show how weak Barry is. This is the same Barry that ran around the Earth multiple times who just lost his first duel to Eddie Thawne who's had his powers for what 5 minutes?
@@hyperartfan7952bruh fuck naw savitar was dragging Barry’s bum ass through the speed force killed his girl and destroyed him every time they fought bruh that’s so wack
The way savitar and godspeed lose to nora and cecil is just pure comedy
@Vivyf So my personal opinion is that God speed lost to Cecil is actually questionable but there will definitely be a reason. But with Nora I can definitely say that she deservedly won because Savitar is Berry or a time relic, which means that the time relic Berry always knew what the real Barry would do, which is why he was always one step ahead of the weather. and since Savitar fought against Nora, he could no longer foresee the intention - apart from that, when she was impaled, she prevented it with a face. so my personal opinion is that Nora deserved to win but that's just my personal opinion but I also have to say and admit that a Zoom who was the best supervillain of them all was very heavily nerfed like everyone else I'm happy about the happy ending What ultimately happened, but it's a shame to annoy an opponent as strong as Zoom, who I really enjoy.
Nora has read about Savitar in the Flash musemum so she knows about him trying to stab people from behind and how to counter it . Cecile's and Killer Frost wins are questionable tho Caitlin could of won eventually she know Zoom's tricks Zoom should'nt have lost that easy tho. they should have put up more of a fight but sadly this is the outcome rip 😭😭😭😭😭😭
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someone who flash couldnt defeat
This show is now meehhhh
This is everything we didn't want. The writers don't care, its very clear in this final episode. Thank you Grant and Tom.
I agree. It’s so disappointing
@@B1ueberr7 I have nothing against the actor playing Cecile. But the way they made her no diffs God Speed and FLYING?? It was just a huge kick to the balls. They knew. Cecile isn't liked by a VERY LARGE MAJORITY of people in the community. But we simply asked for less focus on her when the story clearly has a GOAL lead character that deserves to shine. But nope, the writers actually sat there and saw that there was nothing wrong with how Barry THE FLASH was portrayed in his final episode. Did they think that everyone would cancel them if they saw this BARRY, simply out classing most of his old enemies all on his own in this finale?
Oh my God, why is everybody hating on this episode? It was honestly one of the best series finale’s I’ve ever seen
@@MLGaming330please tell me your joking
@@HentisLol no I’m actually not joking. I actually did not think that the episode was that bad.
They disrespected every single villain in this are you serious 💀
I don’t usually like to be overly critical but good god like this shit is lame af and I’ve seen enough lame stuffs from later seasons and they still seize to surprise me…, they were doing good for last 3 episodes and then…yikes
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I agree.
Seriously like wtf
i’m pissed as fuck but i should’ve known better. what were you expecting 🤷
I love how 2 of the heroes are non-speedster and they didn't die immediately against beings who can move faster than light.
literally every non-speedster villain this show has has this problem
Lmao yep, speedsters are always wayyy too OP in these things... if they actually moved at different speeds or had different limitations, variations etc. it might actually be interesting.... but a bunch of equally-fast speedsters is like two repelling poles on a magnet, it's implausible that they could even hurt each other except if they happened to catch the other unawares; they could essentially never engage in open combat... well they **could**, but it wouldn't be even remotely compelling to watch. Just two guys chasing each other without ever getting closer, and for one to give up would mean guaranteed defeat/death, so the "battle" would only conceivably end if they both called it off.
@annavirag546literally EVERY comic has this issue.
Batman and Spiderman have the only interesting rogues gallery at this point.
Everyone else is just "evil guy with the heroes'powers."
4 actually. Cecile, Allegra, Mark, and Khione.
Nah Savitar was done dirty in this 💀
I know right
I wished he would get a epic comeback 💀💀
Him & Godspeed 😂
You kidding bro? zoom wearing a balaclava and I’m a die hard s2 fan
Wish his fight was longer, but Nora doing that was a smart strategy so I’ll let that one slide
The fight between Cecile and Godspeed had me rolling on the floor laughing. She goofily waves her arms and single handedly defeats and army of speedsters just like that. Also apparently she can just fly now because why not? The writers forgot what her powers were a long time ago lol
I think that’s 2049 Cecile because of the suit but it’s still stupid
@@Llamu no it’s current Cecile, but somehow she gets her 2049 suit because this show is stupid
i was legit begging godspeed in front of my tv screen to kill her how tf did i get hyped for a whole week for this shit lmao stayed up late on school day to watch this air on netflix fucked up my physics test for this lmao
@ryan xu I think you should listen to one of Bo Burnhams songs called "Lower you expectations"
Plot Twist, Cecile is actually the legendary Sapphire Witch, who possess godlike abilities 😂
Rip to those who expected massive and serious speedster battle💀
Well thats me 😂
Me got ya
Facts this hurt my feelings how bad it was. Like OH MY GOD nah bro Savitar was whoopin Barry's wimp bottom dragging him through the speed force and he gets killed by his own daughter taking off a piece of his armor and "stabbing him" with it even tho it appears to just scratch the surface
@@sonnymcgmlb the same man, they did Savitar dirty soo bad
@@thomasroyal_81 And I love the part where Reverse Flash, the arch nemesis of the show's "main character" if we'll even call him that, gets defeated by the power of love and friendship by Allegra. He's as fast as like LIGHT. how did he just stand there and watch her power up and explode on him? Same with Godspeed. How is Cecile able to react with her psychic powers when he can run like MACH 150
It took Barry, Oliver, and Firestorm to defeat Thawne in a 3v1. Allegra 1 shots him.
It took Cisco, Frost, Barry, Jay, and Wally to defeat Savitar. Nora 1 shots him.
Barry was never fast enough to defeat zoom. Fake Caitlyn one shots him
It took Barry and Thawne to defeat Godspeed in a 2v1. Cecile defeats him.
On of the worst finales I’ve ever scene. It’s like the writers have never seen their own show
Edit: so I was wrong, Barry did defeat zoom. Cut me some slack guys, that was 8 years ago.
i was so disappointed, i literally grew up with this show to see it end like this
The villains deserved better...like how you gonna kill off major antagonists like this..
Fax bro i kept waiting for like zoom or something to come and kill everyone but nah, this was absolutely pathetic
the episode was very bad and the assembled villains looked like paper.
Before Cecile put her fingers to her head, Godspeed should have killed her, it doesn't make any sense. This is the worst of the arrowverse endings.
They all got bitched so hard i hate everything about it. I have so much to rant about i could write paragraphs like WTF was this shit
When Nora just phased the blade through herself I was like "FINALLY SOMEONE USED THEIR BRAIN"
That moment was actually cool though
@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256trash
Still, how does one vibrate *particularly* their belly and nothing else? Were they hungry or something? And how did she just casually jump out of Savitar's grip
@@crust2281makes no sense
@@crust2281 Speedsters can vibrate specific parts of their body. Same as when every single time you saw a speedster in this show vibrate their hand.
Somehow Cecile can react as fast as godspeed runs lmao
Cecile: the goddess of plot armor against the god of speed 💀
@@ivanagustinortiz5237 I wish she had no plot armor ong.
She's a damn Jedi now ... the f*** happened there?
so embarrassing and Thawne gets outsmarted by a child like wtf
She has telepathic powers and your brain can think at the speed of light.
This is exactly how not to end a series
Its should have ended on season 3
@@Nana_Rydawhat you said was completely ridiculous
@@dierise6875 how😂
@@Nana_Rydathey couldn’t cuz everyone wanted to see GodSpeed but they made him weak🤦🏾♂️
Gotham had a great series finale
I honestly wanted the villains to win
Same
They would’ve but due to horrible writing and plot armor they didn’t
Facts
And thank God u not the creator
@@BobbyJoe24. I guess u gone say the avengers endgame bad because the heroes won too right your logic dumb
Love how Palpatine taught them speedsters how to use Force Lightning to kill. 😂
It doesn't even look at threatening as the hand vibrating because it doesn't kill anyone. It's just a attack with bo substance because no danger seems to be done
Godspeed is a walking meme at this point. Especially standing next to Savitar.
😂😂😂
Will the real God of Speed please stand up!
@@devinbrown6650 nun of these people have read the comics cause the comic version of godspeed would absolutely annihilate that clown☠️
@@Prodreeper Too bad his live action version is the biggest clown in this episode.
@@Spider-Man2094 it’s sickening, they really chose faze rug to be the face of such a bad ass villain
I honestly think it would’ve been cool to end with Barry’s peanut gallery watching him do 5v1, and truly showcasing how fast he’d gotten. Outmatching all these speedsters in the past with not just speed, but his wits and training. It could still end with Reverse Flash and Barry having their (umpteenth) final battle! I get that the dynamic is Team Flash and friends and family, but it would’ve been cool to have him fight for everything on the line by himself.
that would've been such a better ending, they just rushed this too much, and made it boring halfway through.
Yea they basically shouldve replicated the savitar vs wally, jay and flash but this time flash the one going crazy and clapping them all🔥
They definitely should've done that.
They could've put Godspeed to deal with Team Flash by himself with his clones while the original aids the evil speedsters in the fight against The Flash. I think it would be an interesting way to use his powers and to nerf the shit out of him, since he's technically the fastest evil speedster, or at least he should be.
Have the peanut gallery kidnapped so they won't be in his ear the whole time. That way he proves he can do it alone, and only keeps them around because he wants them there. Not because he needs them
The fact that these people were defeated so easily makes you wonder if Barry is the weakest person on gis team 😂
Team flash>>The flash according to the writers
They emasculated Barry’s character so much
We are team flash signature still there even at finale lmao writers
Potentially the best final episode ever, executed the worst possible way. Could've had so many fantastic returns and fights but instead you have insurmountable villains beaten by new metas in seconds.
stopped watching flash in s4 or s5 cant remember from that point they already fucked serie
They should have returned the villains at the start of the season, then put effort into making the final season have a single driven narrative to build up to this moment
o savitar perdeu pra guria ali,mt quebrado esse epKKK
The plot armor was insane, especially with Nora and Cecil. Nora had the biggest plot armor ever, more than calebcity’s “when the writers only focus on progressing the plot”
Bro nora literally died and is 10x slower then Godspeed to phase his stab
But nooooo PLOT ARMOR PRO MAX comes into play
@@baktalksfootie they got the Nokia of plot armor
Nah bruh seeing ugly a Nora beat Savitar was depressing
THAT'S BAD WRITING!
Chester had the most plot armor in this episode how did he even survive???
Ain’t no way they wasted zoom and savitar like that bruh💀
Thawne too. Man is from season 1 and he got beaten by a woman...
@@Apiestineidc abt the women bs they didn’t even give the final “BIG FIGHT” between rf and flash like fr mf got nerfed so hard🤦♂️
@@Apiestine was he though ? he was wearing season 8 suit, and thats when he was killed the final time so that would make more sense
@@Boba_Fett1980 By just a shot ? The true reverse flash will never die with a little shot, but if it was the flashpoint batman.
@@Skman838 What I meant is he were beaten so fast with simply one shot.
They really built up the hype of bringing back all the villains just to defeat them all in the span of 30 seconds.
Ong 💀💀☠️
Literally. The “final boss battle” has always been like this in other shows I’ve seen too. Dk why I’d still be surprised
1:24 lmao Eddie's running😂
should’ve been blurred instead
Leave him aloneee 😭
@@eunhawannabe0304 no I meant, you know sometimes, they make the legs and arms move so fast to collab with the speed, it’z almost blurry
That was so funny 😂😂😂😂😂
Still Better than Ezra Miller.
They did exactly what I was scared of, the speedster villains were defeated so easily it makes you wonder why they were ever a threat at all
It makes sense, most of them are from early seasons when Mach 3-6 was impressive speeds. Barry has been doing time stops for awhile now. Of course they would be nothing by comparison and yeah the others know how to handle them better. Nora is much faster than S3 barry who fought Savitar, she should have easily beat him, not just the trick. Cecile is a bit weird but Telepaths are an automatic cheat code anyway.
@@TheLastSane1 There's no way you are actually trying to justify this scene. Savitar Mach 3-6? lmfao. Barry season 1 dodged lightning as he saved Joe in the process. Telepaths are an automatic cheat code? Cecile shouldn't even be able to process, let alone react to any of the things Godspeed throws at her, tf?
@@grizzlyv2.076 Throw at her? Like what the dude was so confident he fucking stod there. Because guess what, that is how he has alway sbeen depicted as being very sure of himself. And sorry but speed of thought is still pretty fucking quick. And yeah I was being hyperbolic with the Mach-3-6 in truth the best feats done in Season 3 was Mach 100 if im being kind.
@@TheLastSane1 Would be the case if not for the fact that THEY ARE ALL LITERALLY AMPLIFIED BY THE FREAKING NEGATIVE SPEEDFORCE
@@TheLastSane1cmon dude You look patethic trying to justify this crap. It doesn't holds up. This show is pure shit. One thing is watching and enjoy shit and another is convincing yourself shit is tastefull
You'd think they couldn't make Godspeed even more of a joke than that lightsaber fight in Season 7.
And yet they somehow managed to do so. It’s commendable in a really fucked up way.
At this point I just feel bad for godspeed
Dude gets bodied by Thawne in the comics and doesn't even have the statue at the Flash museum
Is portrayed absolutely horrendously in the TV show and gets clowned on by The fandom of said TV show
And to top it all off gets absolutely thrashed by someone with normal human reaction time
@@nicolewhite3157 it’s so messed up.
@@nicolewhite3157 I bursted out laughing when I saw how he literally stood there saying "You beat the clones, but I'm the real deal" AND THEN HE DIES WITHOUT EVEN *TRYING* TO ATTACK HER ONCE 💀💀💀💀 HE MOCKED CECIL AND THEN DIED WITHOUT MOVING A MUSCLE, I CAN'T BRO
0:36 who’s the villain behind Barry
This would've been so much better if the team Flash side was Barry, Jay, Wally, Bart, and Nora. That way it would've been a full on speedster vs speedster fight
Yeah. Would’ve been way better. Should’ve been:
Jay vs Zoom
Wally vs Savitar
Nora vs Thawne
Bart vs Godspeed
Barry vs Eddie
@@Drifter1989 That would've been fucking amazing! Almost like the Arrow episode of the Invasion crossover!
I thought the Spector or Black Flash would come in due to the timeline breaking down oh no let's have this piece of bullshit instead for a episode Flash Yet again DISAPPOINTS 😞
Which reminds me, what happen to Wally anyway?
@@sotl7749 IDK they love wasting people that have something going forward for them 😔
I don't believe for a second that Savitar lost that easy and THAT FAST, especially considering it took an entire season to beat him the first time
As soon as Savitar got resurrected by Cobalt Blue, he already lost his memory. Only this time, whatever is Barry is currently doing is no longer Savitar's memory. In that previous season, whatever Barry is currently doing automatically becomes Savitar's memories. Savitar's memory is no longer linked to Barry Allen's memories. Now Savitar is Barry Allen's clone without that memory. Savitar can no longer keep track of what Barry is doing which means he cannot use Barry's memories to know what kind of weakness Nora has. That is why this Savitar gotten weaker compared to the previous season.
@@hp2546but he technically got KILLED BY HIS DAUGHTER that could’ve been a great plot savator reacting to her
@@hp2546like fr wouldn’t you want to see how he would react and how it might be possible for him to change like if they brought them back at the start and just had a 24 episode season about the villains and there reaction to the flash team it could’ve been a good season and dare I say it amazing but all we got was this dog sh!t
Love how Nora defeated Savitar, the God of Speed, in 45 seconds.
😂😂
The nora has the biggest plot armor my day is completely ruined literally savitar is my favorite but nora defeated easily for me season 4 is last season rest season are dead especially this season
lmao
Lol
looks like negative force nerfed them all
What’s confusing is that all the villains want to kill Barry yet they don’t even go for him ☠️
Lmao fr
😂😂😂
Riiiight?! shit gets funnier and funnier mate
Exactly😂
You know what? That actually makes sense now 😂. All they do is talk big. Yet when it comes to the REAL thing, they’re all playing “protect the castle 🏰” (them) in this case. Because they’re too chicken 🍗 to even do it. So they go after his family and teammates instead. Which didn’t do jack
Godspeed vs Cecile truly is the fight of all time. It's the first fight where I don't know who I wanted to lose more. Honestly I was dreaming they would just end up blowing each other up lol
Have it be like on the movie Step Brothers where they end up knocking each other out.
A missed opportunity for a double kill.
Cecile should not be created in the show
What’s even funny was that she took out all of his clones by doing the SAME EXACT THING
@@MatheusRicardo-wm1imwhy not?
3:30 I LOVE how there's a 'sizzling' sound effect, like he just got fried, but he literally looks the exact same
There has to be a twist there aint no way Godspeed and savitar went out that sad
😂I am saying
godspeed and savitar were always bums in disguise
Nora probably knows the most about Savitar and the damn dagger no way she didn't grow up hearing anout Nora Prime but as for Godspeed that part was goofy as hell what power did Cecille even use
@Orange Juice bro Godspeed was but not Savitar he was a badass for Season 3 that is but Godspeed was a bum
The fact that literally no one had trouble with beating any of the villains is disgusting
Every villain losing killed me inside a little, none more than Eobard. But I hope someone enjoyed whatever this was.
I feel you bro I feel like that as well. I was kind of rooting for the villains
@@achitect2021Exactly man. Btw, what did you think of the RF’s personality this season? Maybe holding up to the first? At the very least to me it felt like it made sense for a villain like Thawne
Seem like everyone had covid, everyone keeping each other at arm lenght, throwing lightning at each other. They are so thoughtfull.
Also love Zoom gray mask with a different shade than the rest of his costume ❤
Eobard lost on purpose so he could ruin barry's finale
@@Morales3088 jajaja well it worked magnificently…man eobard doesn’t seem to disappoint.
I wish Ralph, Cisco, Oliver, Clark, Kara, Julien, Black Lightning etc. showed up too.
Too many heroes.
What about Batwoman and Sara Lance?
Too much people
Probably would’ve been better if only speedsters showed up. Like Impulse, kid flash, Jesse quick, Jay, etc
With Ralph and Cisco it's enough
This finale makes me even wonder if the speedsters actual have super speed or are just running fast 😂
Basically the same thing
@@RaphaeltheRonin so you’re the first
@@demontiming3234and im the 2nd barry allen
Eddie running is the goofiest thing I’ve ever seen.
Fr
Agree to disagree. I'd say he's the only one of the speedsters besides Barry who actually RUNS PROPERLY when on those close up shots.
I kinda like it
Clearly you haven't seen Ezra Miller's Flash 'run'.
Word. The cgi these past few seasons have been cringy
My two complaints for this scene is:
1. Zoom isn't sparking his speed force like he's supposed to.
2. Most Anticlimactic fight in the history of Flash history, I mean what happened to Zoom's time remnants, or Godspeed's sonic attack, or Savitar exiting his suit to fight Nora with the face and voice if her father. So much potential for the series finale gone to waste
Dont forget cobalt blue no mask lmao writers
Dont forget cobalt blue no mask lmao writers
We only saw Savitar in the suit, because Grant had Covid that time.
zoom isn’t sparking because he’s not on V9 anymore, but the rest totally agree
Let’s not forget how Cecile beat a speedster
It would've been cool if the villains were winning at first but than Savitar decided to betray them because of Nora since she convinced him that despite everything he was still her dad a hero
Already a better idea than what we got. *sigh*
@@lordhawkeye And that's not the only one a better idea for this season would've been to have all these guys from the start working together throughout the season. You know really let these guys get to know and work with one another than have it all lead to this a final battle between all of them
They made Savitar weak in this episode ugh
@@adriana.5446 word if he amplified by reverse speed force he should be faster than everyone there
@@miguellionblazer5029 GENIUS
I can’t believe Thawne was defeated by getting thrown through some glass
W comment
1:38 When Cecile said to Godspeed “Are you afraid you can’t beat me?” she sounds so condescending I can’t help but roll my eyes.
I cringed so hard at that scene
Maybe he was bit scared to get beaten by an empath like its a shame for him lol.
@@ralphmilnerrr your opinion doesn’t count because you don’t think reverse flash is light speed
This was so painful to watch.
9 years. 9 long years. And they deliver this finale.
I aint even moved by nostalgia anymore
Glad this show ended in fact
I like how Chester can withstand 7 seconds worth of Negative Speed Force Lightning while Barry was put into a coma. Wth is this.
Plot armor
They explain it was because Chester had meta-powers
Kinda half-assed
Thawne is literally torturing him to death. Why the fuck did you think he stopped to monolog? He wasn't giving it his all.
I’ll go with plot armor,it makes the most sense to me since nothing else does.
3:21 Thawne: “UNLIMITED POWER!!”
When you realize savitar is technically beating his own child
I actually like it. Each of these fights are between people with a history
Barry and eddie
Nora and savitar
Caitlin (kinda) and zoom
Cecile and Godspeed
Thawne was just commiting shenanigans
@@Nexishere Thawne trying to kill the tech guy
and Nora technically killed her own father in cold blood and gloat about it...
@@alexandertelson3713 Chester you mean?
Lmao 😂
So Cecil can think faster than the speed of sound. Very smart writing 👍 what a way to end the season
They don't give a f just end the shxt and be done with it
*speed of light
@@Isronaldo2cool god speed can’t run faster than light therefore he can’t think that fast.
@@Infinite_Guide04 oh nvm
Viewers: why would you bring back RF, Zoom, Savitar, and godspeed only to have them get taken out by side characters like chumps?
Writers: to give fans hope
Viewers: hope?
Writers: so I can rip it away from them
Because the team know the villains and thus how they thing and can plan for their behavior (lets face it most of them are predictable). Nora SHOULD be faster than s3 flash who's best feat was like Mach 30 and maybe Mach 100 if you stretch it a LOT. Zoom is a joke, he was always a joke and he is fighting someone he thinks is Caitlyn and who is a literally goddess so yeah he is gonna get bodied because he thinks he can play her head and nope not gonna work and she doesn't even think the same so he can't predict her. All the villains are dropped because the heroes know them and the heroes are cocky bastards who think they can easily win.
the writer must be tom cavanah
@@TheLastSane1 Savitar got boosted by the negative speedforce and SOMEHOW died over a simple stab that looked like it just scratched his suit and something he could easily react to but meh fair enough. Zoom could react to dozens of bullets and catching them with one hand but instead he just stands there while he sees his enemy charging up his lightning and can’t react to it? Even if he’s cocky he would be fast enough to at least dodge a fucking lightning bolt. Cecile can fly now? Faster than fucking godspeed? Then proceeds to react to dozens of godspeed clones and defeats them by flaying her hands around like an idiot? Maybe the other deaths could be slightly justified but there’s no fucking way she could react to dozens of speedsters when she isn’t even one herself. Thawne’s death was ig fair since he dropped his guard but no way in hell Chester could survive that. The villains are dumb and cocky but no way that they are dumb enough and cocky enough to not be able to kill at least ONE of the members of team flash like wtf
@@tk_damn_n_f1r387Teddy sears*
The way he’s just sitting in his wheelchair when the camera turns and he says hey so casually like he’s meant to be there
The recycled running 🥵, No Cisco 😢, the villains being clowns and plot armor 😂, and the ending was heartwarming. I rate this ending 3/10, and I thank Grant for 9 years, he is the Best Flash but damn that s*** was dissatisfying for a finale, 9 years just for that.
This comment had me dying laughing. 😂
i was hyping this shi up
@@formersatthis has to be the worst finale ever for a show, specially one that went on for so damn long.
Episode 9 & 10 were really good, 11 and 12 was good but not in 9 & 10’s level. I thought they were hyping us up for the best episode in the show yet… and they pulled a CW move and made the most dogshi ending possible… Really wasted Grant, Tom, and Teddy with their great acting… I wish they would rewrite that crap all over again
@@Eundo21 Honestly if the show ended kind of like episode 10 I would be totally fine with it. The show coming full circle would have been a perfect ending in my opinion
The coolest part of this whole episode was the villians meeting eachother.
the only cool part of this episode
The only good part
The only interesting part.
Best scene in all of the past few season combined.
@@xxRafaelProductionsWhat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Something tells me the writers hated this show so much that they intentionally made this fight scene in the worst way possible
Worst way to end a series, the writers clearly just don't care anymore
SPOILERS AHEAD:
It's incredible how in the end the whole team got superspeed and super strength in the last episode that allowed Cecile to fly and also defeat dozens of Godspeed clones when just last season they had an all out Speed Force war.
I also love how Kiyone basically told us that 'no one is going to die tonight, like she was breaking the 4th wall', and how Chuck had superpowers that he didn't know about.
It was incredible how powerful Nora was and was able to phase her belly button and spine so that Savitar would fail to stab her. Then she casually just stabbed him once - remember when Jesse did it he ran off - but this time he just laid down and basically went into a coma. Then Zoom decided he would rather just threaten to kill everyone and then run around and around in the tunnel rather than you know...kill everyone.
I'd like to think that the last time I saw Thawne this season was in episode 10, so I totally blocked that part out because it brings into question why Eddie needs to be the avatar at all. Then after absorbing massive amounts of negative speed force energy, I really loved how pep talks and the power of friendship lead to an awkward friendship between the positive and negative speed force. It would have been incredibly satisfying if the bad guys won. I loved Seasons 1-2 and even 3. Then there were some good moments, but imagine ending such an epic legacy with a 13 episode season that only had 1 episode that didn't absolutely suck.
When did Cecile learn to fly?
@@sxnder exactly she just did it
@@toxicangel7663 It’s great that she can. But there was no buildup. Maybe there’s another series in the work that’s coming.
@@sxnder I don’t know if a series dedicated to Cecile would be good. She’s also part of the arrowverse and that just ended.
@@toxicangel7663 no please no
I will always prefer Thawne's old Reverse Flash suit and the fact that Cecile could go face to face with a so-called God Of Speed is just Bizarre.
Exactly! Savitar beat flash, Wally, Jesse, and jay. It took Wally, Barry and jay to beat him at the end. And nora can do it in 2 seconds? Tf?
@@ryang54712maybe he just lost his skill for being dead for so long😭😭
@@ryang54712 exactly
@@dgrease Technically, they weren't dead for a long time. They were taken from the moment they died or were defeated similar to the villains in No Way Home
@@ryang54712 We are 6 seasons past Savitar. Barry could straight run circles around Savitar and remember he needed the Philosophers stone and that suit to even be a threat to S3 Barry. Nora is much faster than S3 Barry
never knew cecil is able to react fast enough to a speedster 😭😭
I was so pissed off that I searched for information: human mind at its peak can react in a time of 0.3/0.35s. Now imagining that godspeed has a speed superior to 100000 km/h (which is possible) and the distance between godspeed and cecile was about 100m (0.1 km) the time needed for godspeed to reach cecille and stab her in the chest is 0.1/100000 = 0.000001h = 0.00006 min = 3.6 ms. Now how is possible that cecille can react in a time of 3.6 ms considering she hasn't showed any feat of high speed thinking??
@@Bane0152 actually
200-250 miliseconds
This is REALY bellow the average
@@Bane0152 3.6
This is like
Mach 2-3 😂
@@Bane0152godspeed is massively faster than light but yeah even that is enough lol☠️
She has high reaction speed lol
The fact that Barry took an entire year with a team to beat them but the others just beat them solo in 30 seconds 💀
There no way Chester should have survived Thwane Lightning attack
did you watch the episode?
He survived cuz the plot demanded it for no reason.
THE POWER OF THE PLOT
Fr RF actually tried to obliterate him from existence but this show really wants everyone to survive so they put the stupidest shit in it an make the villains lose like nothing it’s pathetic AF
the cops did last season
Cecile can fly now ?!
Loved how Thawne was just sitting there and went “hey” 😂.
But seriously, Savitar and Godspeed are taken down too easy and quickly.
You know what is even funnier. apparently they were faster than they ever have been due to the negative speed force but somehow the characters with no super speed are faster??
She has telekinesis so she can fly
@@godzilla234ful easily explained with their powers. Cecile can fly with her telekinesis, and she would be able to sense where a speedster is before they could ever touch her with her empathetic abilities, Khione is a literal God so she can just grant herself speedster powers, Savitar WAS actually faster than Nora, but being from the future is has it's advantages, including knowing what move your enemy is going to pull, while Eobard's egotistical dumbass let his guard down and Allegra was able to get a shot off him. Barry and Eddie seemed on equal ground and footing.
@@iamchrispaezjr I ain’t reading all that
@@theunknownvoidz1409 Then don't you lazy ass. Others will.
So far it's been pathetic what they did to these villains
Facts, Nora and Cecile should have died, that was plot armor on a whole new level. Savitar and Godspeed>>>
@@ray_vex6045 hell no Nora could have taken Savitar after S5 no way Barry and Iris didn't teach her how to nuetralize Savitar and the damn dagger as for Cecile I agree what was that
@@ray_vex6045 cecile yeah (no hate for the actress) but for nora i don't think she would died by savitar i scream when savitar grab nora and was about to stab her the way he stab iris I scream "JUST PHASE THROUGH, YOUR A GODDAMN SPEEDSTER" and im glad she did phase because if she did get stab then i would be mad but i can't believe the villains got defeated so easily
@@theoutsiderjess1869 HOW the hell XS even pierce thru his armor. She didn’t even phase the knife
Dude Allegra should’ve died too same with Chester I heard Chester survived that
This is truly one of the shows ever made
The finale as a whole might have been totally disappointing but Wells realising that it was all being held together by someone at Star labs and going there was totally on point.
He even brought his wheelchair with him
@@mosesevergreen6803 just like old times. Though, imagine he wore his old Harrison Wells clothing
Well, that IS the Wells Reverse Flash...the most competent speedster villain alive.
Fax
@@JustSaph WOULD HAVE SAVES THIS EPISODE
Cant believe savitar was taken down that easily
Because Nora is really fast and Savitar is not god because Savitar and others lightnings red
They tookened him out like Nascar
Nora owns him sadly
@@efekaradagl1690 what💀
taken
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Why would you bring back? The villains just have the side characters beat them. And then the fake out Chester death. How dare you Eric Wallace, how much do you hate the fans?
he doesnt give two shits thats why we are going to riot and force them to redo the series finale and make it right like jesus
It worked for Justice League
Man the villains got treated like the Illuminati in multiverse of madness 😂
Atleast in the illuminati's case
Scarlet witch was actually powerful enough to defeat them
Here its just......
The writters had some good ideas for the episodes and I'm glad the villains were back, but it doesn't make sense how they were defeated lol these are extremely powerful villains, they should've won.
Ever since season 3 there have been really good ideas on the show but the problem has been the execution of them. But this finale really took the cake as I don’t know who came up with the brilliant idea of having the villains being defeated by side characters with minimum effort.
@@achitect2021 what’s wrong with season 4?
Thawne calling Zoom a velocity 9 speed junky was hilarious
Because it’s true though 😂. Unlike Thawne who actually HAS real speed, Zoom used drugs to make himself get faster. So yeah! Thawne’s right
That was like a whole 2 scenes before that
@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256
Thawne doesnt have real speed
I was fucking rolling with laughter at that
@@youngjrr he has, it‘s just negative and not positive
The Plot armor is strong with these heroes
Facts.
They did Godspeed dirty
@@edgrr8408 ain't no way they ruined my boy zoom like that 💀
@@yogiri8739Yeah
"and now young Skywalker, you will die..."
*Zap zap*
Bro zoom's mask looks so goofy wtf
Its the exact same lmaoo
Nahhh 😂
@@Microwaved_Water1 it looks to smooth. It should have some marks on it like it did before
right
@@DreadFN what im saying
I missed tony todd and tobin bell’s voice its just amazing they came back as well for this
although Zooms voice sounds weird
@@PhantomGamerXYT true
@@PhantomGamerXYT His mask looks kinda weird too
there is no way i was hyped up for THIS. How can two mortals defeat two speedsters. I swear the writers just dont know what to do.
This finale felt like something straight out of a how it should have ended skit
The Flash Flashpoint Paradox reference at 2:41 "I love what you've done with the place."
1:52 Listen, I would understand if Cecil could stop 1 or 2 Godspeed clones, because when speedsters create copies (not time remnants) of themselves, it temporarily weakens them. That would make some sense. BUT after stopping the first 2 clones with telekinesis, the rest should then be able to attack her just before she could react!
This has been a problem from the start unfortunately. Look at the snart fiasco in season 1 for example. Guy has no super speed and yet beats Barry so many times when he could've just taken his gun/knocked him out
@@om5621 There's is a dude named: "Madvocate" who makes videos about The Flash's bad writing, and that guy just LOVES to talk about Leonard Snart!
Now you are making an excuse for yourself to be able to enjoy the show
@@Mercurii1 No.
It should have been Thawne vs Nora, Bart vs Godspeed, Jay vs Zoom, Wally vs Savitar, Eddie vs Barry
Fr man
I prefer Eobard Wells to fight Barry instead of Eddie, since he is his arch-nemesis.
Godspeed teaming up with Thawne makes no sense as it was Thawne who killed him to begin with to help Flash. I'd keep Godspeed out entirely. Savitar should've just killed him immediately upon entry after he said god of speed. He's basically a meme at this point anyway. It should've been Flash vs Eddie, Thawne, Zoom and Savitar by himself proving he is the fastest of all.
I swear man this sucks I’m disappointed
I wanted it to be an all out brawl of Barry Vs all of the evil speedsters.
I like how Barry is standing across from himself😂
3:20 ayeeee best part of the season so far 😭
I cheered so hard when this happened 💀
@@Theblobmma I'm fucking dead 💀
Felt so satisfying watching that scene 💀💀💀
He revived, damn😔
The best part i could keep rewatching this
No way the villains got disrespected like this
Was i the only one who was cheering when Thawne was torturing Chester? This mad eme incredibly happy
Unnnlimiteeeddddd powerrrrrrr. Palpatine-like 😂😅
I like chester but I don't like in movies the heros always live so I was kinda cheering but the righters
s had to be annoying
I thought that Cisco was gonna come in and help chester tbh
@@edwardvincentlaybournwalle4991they discovered that he had some type of power (don't know what kind though)
@@edwardvincentlaybournwalle4991 flash universe works differently bro. there u can be a speedster and apparently lose all the time to non speedsters for example. Logic isn't a thing there so physics is a long shot
No one mentioning Barry being savitar is a ridiculous ball drop
Congratulations The Flash writers, you've done it again!
You managed to disappoint us again.
Imagine how much better this could have been if team flash was just the speedster’s like Jay, kid flash, impulse and xs hell chuck jesse in there two
Flash family, to be short
2:33 this is just plain funny
I agree lmao
Funny indeed considering he pretended for a whole year to be paralyzed from the waist down. Second time Thawne got nostalgic with STAR Labs, the first time being when he spoke to Supergirl.
Also, 2:40 : a direct reference to Flashpoint, when Thawne said the exact same line to Barry :
"Hello Barry."
"Thawne..!"
"I love what you've done with the place."
"THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!"
“That’s how you do it people wooo”
“Hey”
“ah” 😂😂😂
Do they not realize that the only reason this show is still popular is because of these villains they just clowned ☠.
when you think it can't get worse and they deliver something like that. 😢
And you expect the worst ever and than its even worse than you thought it to be as worst as possible
How was it bad it seems pretty good
@@mickwoodfield9980lets see, nora has 0 chance in defeating savatar, cecile killed godspeed and clones with her goofy moves, I can go on and on, this is the first time I wanted the villains to absolutely obliterate the heros beside barry😂. Like if this was fr, zoom, thawne and savitar would have been enough to destroy all of them. Its embarassing for the villains, thats why I stopped watching at the end of season 5, goes downhill after that.
The way thawne was sitting and said hey that shit was funny asf💀
2:40 Tell me that line "I love what you've done with place" is not a Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox reference 💀
good catch lol
It's sad and humiliating to see Zoom, Savitar and Thawne in this way, they are badass Villains and they are very scary and traumatizing when they arrive.. but in this episode they are made of puppets😢😔😭
I wanted to see more interactions between them,each knowing each other's origin/history and death and who they hate the most on Team Flash One after the other in order and explaining about the daughter in Barry Allen the daughter of the Flash and imagine if Savitar comes out of the armor and everyone is scared and sees the Barry Allen/Copy of the evil from of the future and a murderer As zoom said he was going to be like him The dialogue between them would be incredible..
too bad they messed up everything so we could find out who was the fastest from there to because 3 of them created the Flash/Barry Allen and 2 created Nora imagine them discovering that Barry He has a daughter and it's their fault that they created the 2 + Zoom saying that he also knows the girl. Besides,imagine if Cicada and Clifford Devoe/The thinker had appeared Also on the team, it would be worse than it already was..
I can't believe they made this with these powerful characters,It could be better but they humiliated and laughed at them they were made of muggles and puppets like shit it's revolting and disrespectful.. Who also feels this?..😔😭 like and Bye!
Me😮💨😭😭😭
Zoom wanted to make Barry just like him so seeing Savitar become what he always wanted. I could definitely see a friendship between the two. Two sociopaths going on killing sprees. Zoom torturing Khione whatever the hell Cailtlyn is now for leaving him & Savitar torturing Iris for killing him/ abandoning him. So many missed opportunities.
Right? The treatment they got and the way they got defeated was just disrespectful. Like, why bother reviving them at all if this is the treatment they’re gonna get? Makes no sense
This should have been a 2 part finale. Evil speedsters really showing what they can do and playing to their strengths. Zoom was a menace in S2, Savitar knew everything cause he lived it, Thawne being well thawne, Godspeed using his ability to suck the speed force out by using vibrations, and Cobalt Blue is new so he gets a pass. Have them be such a force to barry that it requires everything he knows and has done really to help. Like really wrap it up of what he has learned over the years. You have S1-3 baddies and they barely do a thing.
I can’t believe they ruined this finale so bad
Reverse flash doin darth sidious
1:22 that was so nostalgic right there
foreshadowing back to season 1
@@Cosmicmorales they just used the same clip lol. That’s not what foreshadowing means as well😭😭
Yes bro
What did she said
RF became darth sidious at 2:57
Savitar getting smoked by Nora so easily has me dead 💀 😂
That’s def plot armor idc. They made them look like npcs this was not ok
@@Max-np2qp 100% bro, I will never understand why speedsters always seem to react in real-time, like as if they can’t travel at the speed of light
I get that they all have a connection to the negative speed force thanks to Eddie but why make their lightning permanently red? Why not just make it a mixture of their normal lightning and red lightning like Nora when she tapped into the NSF?
3:18 UNLIMITED POWER
“Your mother escaped her fate, but you won’t”. I find it crazy how Savitar acknowledged that’s the daughter of his original self, basically his daughter. Yet, he still killed his own daughter. That’s insane 😭 he really gone in the deep end.
And just a reminder it’s all Barry and the rest’s fault.
Not really his daughter, he is a clone that has developed an entire new personality, morals, and goals from his original self, he is more like a twin at this point.
@@a_randomuser4 Bro, it’s HIM. Time remnants are literally him.
@@Proximity-, so that specific timeremete had sex with Iris to produce Nora? What I said still stands. He is a clone that gained his own will, he is completely different from Barry, basically a doppelganger.
@@a_randomuser4 It is not directly his offspring but biologically yes, still his daughter.
Did I miss a memo or something? How are non-speedsters able to react to people who can move faster than the speed of sound 🤔
Literally everyone should have died. Nora’s trick should have at best forced Savitar out of his suit, but it’s still Barry lmao
The plot and poor actor budgets demanded it
They been doing that since season 1 but y’all don’t complain about that bruh
@@R0EREN cap, people call it out every season. At the most you could say Barry was just inexperienced season 1 but that’s pushing it
@@OneEyedCloud01 oh please. This man has been getting punched by normal humans since the begging. That can’t be explained by inexperience it’s just dumb writing
Man I was literally shouting “KILL EM ZOOM, KILL EM ZOOM!”
How dare they treat my goat like this