Classic WoW: Should you Priest? (Talents, Macros, PVP, Tips & Tricks)
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2019
- == Kala's WoW Classic Beta Priest Guide ==
After playing priest in OG Vanilla, Private servers and now WoW Classic here's my take on what you should know about Shadow Priest.
▼ Timestamps:
1:10 What race to choose
5:00 lvl 1-10 leveling opener
8:50 Frontloading / MP5
11:40 Should you play Shadow Priest?
13:35 Mouse Over Macros
▼ Macros:
Dispel Mouseover/Harm
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead] dispel magic; [harm, nodead] [exists,nodead][@player] dispel magic
General Healing Mouseover
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@player] Power Word: Shield
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You've earned my sub, i am like 90% positive that i will be maining a priest when classic launches, and just started researching in advance so i can be effective. Can't wait for Classic, thanks for the videos!
SO glad I found this channel as I'm also going to main Spriest. I played Spriest in Vanilla back in the day but only really did BG's at 60. Would love a raiding tutorial for when guilds allows a Shadow to be in the mix. Keep up the great work dude.
You're so helpful! I never played a clothie in vanilla and wasn't sure what the easiest/fastest way to get a wand was... thank you.
Not taking 5/5 wand spec is just a huge mistake. You spend more time using your wand then all your skills combined.
bro u dont want stun resist? good luck with the rogues
This is awesome mate well done 👍
Sweet; thanks for the video Kala! I’m excited to be a priest in upcoming classic!
I was a mage and warrior during vanilla and I have dedicated myself to be a priest this time around. Been looking at guides for months now to get ready for Classic 👍🏿
thank you kala, i played shadow from wrath till now. fav class
Really awesome vid mate, thanks : )
Everyone knows jumping while walking to destinations increases you movement speed by x99999999
69% movespeed increase :D
This is true if you think about it from a psychological standpoint. The perception of the passage of time is relative to action done by, and external stimuli on, the individual perceiving time. If you are more stimulated and engrossed in what you are doing, time will pass more quickly. By adding the stimulation of mashing the space bar, performing flips etc. you are literally time traveling. Google “flow state” you’ll see what I mean. Peace.
Yes, and jumping wheb entering a portal prevent you from falling over if someone is waiting on the other side to make you trip.
I'm pretty sure the only proper way to play is by jumping everywhere you go.
That's just science
Thanks for the guide!
Pretty good video. Thanks for the info!
Been looking at a lot of priest oriented leveling guides and your advice about picking up tailoring and enchanting and actually making a wand is super useful. Thanks for the tip!
This is a great video!!
Dude tysm for that quick chat about picking the right race and it not mattering. - been thinking about all that shit too much
I'm glad to see your comment about healing groups as shadow. The guild I was in back in live classic had shadow priest healers when we first started raiding because no one had enough gold to respec. Not going (insert preferred healing spec here) wasn't that big a deal back then. Balance druids and elemental shaman were healers too lol.
Nice guide!
I've been watching you on Twitch since you've been playing the beta. I'm glad I found you! I have heard so much BS about shadow, I'm glad to find someone who knows what they are talking about!
so i tried that macro with the shield but it types it out in chat without casting. what am i doing wrong?
so is the idea here to spec untill 30 and respec? or why are your points not in the skills you said they should be?
Priceless information. Seriously considering rolling priest after watching your vids. Any pvp tip videos would be amazing.
i want a macro for shadow pain mind blast wand attack how i write it?
what about going for holy damage (smite, holy fire) until lvl 40 (i.e. before getting shadow form) with wand damage and spirit tap talented ? there are not really all that many good shadow damage spells and talents until lvl 40 ? not to mention that wop:pain usually never runs it full duration on most mobs, meaning it is often a waste of mana ?
Awesome vid.
Awesome!!
What's the addon you're using for that party frame?
Hey thats my name above you head! Thanks for the video man! Hoping I can do something similar with Shamans if I ever get access.
you gave him 5k?
One of the best priest information videos out there, well done.
is it worth putting any points in wand early before getting mind flay for just basic bitch dps?
can anyone link me a completed shadow priest talent tree? Btw first time playing wow play so maybe a recommendation on point order as well
The macros to helpful spells can be shorter, like /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][] (mind the open,close bracket thing with no space that mens target or myself)
What professions do you recommand to learn ? You start with tailoring and enchanting. But by what do you replace it or them ?
My intuition tells me to take a gathering profession (dont know which) in replacement of enchanting after the wand in order to make money. Then when you have money and made yourself the truefaith vestments, you pick up mining and eng for pvp for example ?
thanks
What do you think about dropping enchantment to get mining (to 60 then swap to engineering) should I grind to 70 enchantment for greater magic wand? or just stick with the lesser one?
I really want tailoring till 60 for BoP robes and bags but might consider dropping tailoring late late game for alchemy not sure about cost or efficiency of dual production game. Fishing with alchemy IS nice.
Are u going for R14? When ranked pvp system comes out?
Great video, super excited for classic to come out!
By the way, do you ever look at how many sponsor logos you've got in that tiny picture of yourself and think "man I look like a goober"?
thanks this has helped me alot, smite, smite, dot, shield and wand, not dying now :)
Anybody have any idea what his Talent build is? I've got a new undead shadow priest and I don't want to mess them up.
Ty for the tip, going to roll a spriest for classic
Hi thanks for the video. I used to play Vanilla WoW up until the end of TBC and then I left wow until now that they introduced Classic. I will be back and would like to play my original class which is of course Priest. I was Horde and Undead and although just like you I always preferred the Undead animations, but in pvp I was always envious to Trolls for the Shadowguard because of the Blackout procs.
In pvp of course I was spamming rank 1 SW:P to the Blackout proc as Undead, but Trolls also have the Shadowguard which was a nightmare for melees. On the other hand the Undead's DP is also very powerful although on a 3 mins CD and uses a boat load of mana or will waste your Inner Focus (which can be used with MB otherwise). I was away from the game for more than a decade so my question is, for pvp (animations and aesthetics aside) why would you pick Undead? WoTF is not that useful as there would not be many locks on the alliance side anyway (again due to the WoTF) and the pvp trinket for priest also dispels fear anyway.
DP being a hybrid dmg/heal spell does not really scale well with shadow damage while Shadowguard will scale crazy good as far as I can remember and with BIS gears it does crazy amount of damage per hit (600+ per hit). I guess DP is good for solo world-pvp but Shadowguard is better for group pvp? Also we should not forget that many people know DP is powerful and will dispel it right away. All Dwarves will Stoneform out of it, priests cure it, Paladins will cleanse it away on spam.... So I don't know! Which one would you choose and why? Cheers!
Hi Kala,
You recommend shadow but don't mention what talents to spend points in.
I'm a pretty dedicated Holy priest. I love group healing yet I also damage output and pvp. You have talked me into shadow yet I don't know the first thing. What talent build do you recommend, what gear do you recommend?
great one! Please do more in depth content for the shadow priest both pve and pvp, especially at 60! i will also play a shadow UD priest as a main! Subbed and i'll wait for more, please!
You said first to put 5 points in the wand specialization but later you said stay pure in shadow. So should i use 5 points for the wand or skip it and put all in shadow ?
“Wholesome as Frigg,” is my new catch phrase.
cool content man! I am wondering how you deal with Paladins/Shamans and which one you think is a stronger counter to a holy/disc priest.
I was also wondering how you got shadow gear from raids when you were healing? Or if you were raiding for the shadow gear how did you keep your healing gear current?
Did you even see the video? He healed as a shadow priest....
@@MrJengaa yeah no shit guy I'm wanting to know how he kept his healing gear current if he was raiding to roll on shadow gear. I'm assuming he kept his spec shadow but switched to healing gear.
we didnt have this kinda guide back in the day. this is amazing
Great vid. Never played a priest, makes me want to run a priest for Classic launch now.
In shadow buold can i heal all dungeon in levelling
in what server are you guys playing on?
great content mate. cheers. subbed and will for sure join you on twitch soon
Does all of this still work for WoW SoD? Thanks for the video. I appreciate it.
Great video and great spirit. The greatest one is to not let people make you play something you don't want. At that time I was a teenager playing nightelf priest and they made me switch into heal spec for dungeon, I didn't have enough money to respec sp so I ended leveling in heal spec, I finally quit !.
So enjoy the game as you want it and by this way you'll become a great player.
Hey Kala ! How good is Shadow focus ? And how many points should I typically go for when I'm raiding as a Shadow priest exactly... don't really understand the spell resist concept fully yet
This info is coming from private servers only. As far as I know 6% is maximum resistance reduction cap in pvp. Any further than that doesn't affect in pvp but it will affect in pve. Resistance affects the chance of resisting (missing all or partially) damage. You can put all 5 points for that if you have enough talent points to spend, 3 is what most people spend because they usually just pvp
Thanks bud!
Hey man, I really love your idea that playing a character that you like as the difference is minute. This is easily one the most wholesome youtube videos I have watched and I'm 100% subscribing BECAUSE you're hella wholesome.
Is it worth it to grab greater magic wand in enchanting or should I just do questing for some other wands?
Crafting wands to level enchanting is often the cheapest option and easier to profit off than enchanting gear. So crafting wands is always the best option because you can AH them easily while enchants you have to spam trade for. With enchanting you end up enchanting shit over existing enchants just to progress, losing money in the process. And if you're a priest having the best possible wand at all times is vital.
hey bro you play in Blizzard servers or you are like as us and play in private servers like Warmane?
POG 😱
hey snacky :P
Is recruiting?
Can you recommend me a tree progression for solo pve no respec?
Sorry, this might be a dumb question or might have been asked before. I'm really having a hard time getting ready for classic because all my friends want to play on alliance on a pve server, but I've been wanting to play horde on a pvp server. If I were to play horde I'd definitely go undead shadow priest or warlock. If I went alliance I'd probably just go human warrior for the weapon specialization because I don't know if it's worth it to pvp on an alliance shadow priest. Any suggestions?
how does that get you to level 30 just like that? or do have to get to level 30 then make the thing. 7:17
okay so just get enchanting to 10 and then get my first wand got it ty
Awesome video! While waiting for Classic, I was thinking whether I should play Disc or Shadow, and this helped me choose my spec!
What did you pick?!
@@tristtonm7930 I was sure I will go shadow, but I chose Disc/Holy for better heals.
Dwarves are the only race Ally side I will play. Well, unless I'm rolling warlock then Gnome.
Hey kala, if you are duo leveling with a warrior should the priest run improved barrier?
No because the larger shield is bad for warriors. You wouldnt generally shield warriors because they dont gain rage from being attacked just use renew.
been looking for my spriest hero... looking forward to more content. Would be interested to hear you talking about pvp tactics i.e. fishing for blackout procs w/ swp r1, mind control, mana burn
I really needed to hear that opening thank you. Played Human in Vanilla then switched to Blood Elf. Been going back and forth on Undead and Troll. Seems Troll getting a lot of hype because of Shadowguard but at the end of the day I like Undead look better.
Is it very important to go for ench/tail? Because i want to play lot of PvP and there is eng required for bombs
Just ench tailor to get the first wand then drop them If you want and go for what you want to go :)
So on the line between priest or rogue. Any advice to just back to classic played it like 6 months months ago
I’m leveling both atm 27 rogue and 16 priest just switching between both atm depending on the mood both solid choices 😁
Only ever saw undead or Dwarf priests! I was a Nelf...again lol worthy. But I can’t wait to start weapon leveling again!!!!
Buff sharing spreads the vanilla/classic love!
I can’t wait! So exciting!
Thank you
I played WoW religiously from TBC - Cata, and not once did I ever consider playing a priest. I'd always think what class to make/main, and I'd instantly make it an 8 class (7* for Vanilla ofc), because I'd bin the idea of playing a priest. However, some many years later I'm looking at having that missed Vanilla Wow experience, and I have to say, Being more open-minded, I'm liking the idea of playing a priest!
K o p e SAME !
after you get the wand, what professions is best to get as a priest as I'm rolling priest, mining eng? or herb alchemy?
Take skinning and mining until lvl 60 (skinning for vendoting ez money) then drop skinning take engi
Hi,
I would like to meka a macro for self Renew but for end game.
So i would like to cancel Shadowform get a Renew up, same for flash heal.
Do you if its possible?
palikufa Kufa Pál Péter i would try something like
/cancelaura Shadowform
/cast Renew
For example :)
Ofc its possible
But isnt spriest gameplay boring compared to say lock or mage? I mean spriest didnt come into their own until tbc with shadow word: death and vampiric touch? Isnt spriest in vanilla too basic?
Great video. Props for saying you'd play a night elf on Ally. I always do. However, rolling undead spriest as of this week. Thanks for this video well done.
thanks for making this video, i was thinking about playing a priest, but you made me 100% want to play a priest i appreciate it mate 😄
Most players don't go shadow, because there is so many more useful talents on the other threes, I'm a first time priest, and I'm currently lvl 46, I re-spec twice to try going full shadow, but I don't like it at all. Holy/disc all the way.
Hey man, i enjoy your content, and you inspired me to do a shadow priest for classic. What talent path do you recommend for leveling?
Something like this if you pvp as well while leveling. classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/priest/ATAABeDnE9TQ You can put more points to blackout from shadow reach if you really need those blackout stuns
I need purge and shock mouseover, how to do that? :D
100% true you can and should level as shadow. I was able to heal all dungeons up to BRD with 31 shadow and the other points in Disc. But you definitely start to feel the need for better throughput once you reach those dungeons. So, expect to want to respec around 56 or 57 if you want to keep up with healing on higher level dungeons. Currently running a 33/18/0 build and was able to heal UBRS and even MC (yes MC) at level 57.
You convinced me played every character to max besides monk and priest but the fact I could heal pve in shadow sells it for me :D
I'm leveling 21/25/5 with with enchant tailor. I'll go to divine spirit, grab spirit tap, then finish it off with damage oriented holy talents. I think a holy fire and whatever instant cast dots I have at the given level, plus wanding, is plenty of damage. In doing so you barely use any mana and rarely have to drink. And, you can heal the occasional instance or elite quest no problem. Limiting downtime is way more important than damage output during leveling if you ask me, and having enchanting makes you always have a nice wand for free damage. May your blade never dull! see you guys out there on release
@Kala, the statements on picking race I couldn't agree more with. Thanks sharing your thoughts with the community on that. Secondly, the content you shared on leveling guide was insanely valuable for someone who has no idea how to get ahead of the curve. If you have more content on 11-20, 21-30 (expecting significant player drop off past that point within first 2 days) to keep ahead of curve as shadow priest I think we would all highly appreciate it. Subbed.
Found your macros interesting ... was wondering if you know how I might use macros to make it so right click shoots my wand ?
orlondok you can just go into action bar keybinds, set a button to right click, then drag your shoot wand ability to that button. You’ll have to rebind “interact” though since you won’t be able to right click to loot.
so if you can heal good going shadow, whats the point of discipline or holy then? serious question because i always main healer.
what are the benefits of discipline and holy? does it just take less resources to keep heals up or something?
Much better healing per mana spent along with some utility. If you're going for a disc build Power Infusion is a great dps boost for the raid aswell.
Well, you cant heal well as a Shadow Priest. There in lies the fault.
It's doable. It's better than no healer at all but you're better with any other healer class properly specced.
The mana regeneration isn't there, the increased casting speed and criticals aren't there. The result is thinking you're doing a good job whilst the tank is having to wait more between pulls and pulling less mobs.
The best part about these classic videos is that they never lose value. Classic will always be there.
Best guide. Best UA-camr I've found for classic this far. Thank you. I'll be rolling priest this time around. Cant wait.
Thanks kala I'm gonna be looking for a competitive pvp guild. Are classic recruiting?
I really, really, really appreciate what you say at the beginning about playing what you want. I am going to play on alliance as a priest. I'm still torn between a human and night elf. I agree that dwarfs look silly, and I really could not stand to play one. I've tried, and I hate it. Ultimately, I want to enjoy the game and love my character. I'm not going to roll something I don't like just to be more viable. However, I'm scared that this "dwarf or nothing" mindset could affect my time on wow, and maybe even make finding a raid spot hard. Almost wish my heart wasn't set on priest so I wouldn't have to worry about it!
Just tried a Priest for first time on private server (only class I never played). It's crazy how efficient they are at leveling. I had to drink like 10 times from 1-40.
Yea once you have your wand you can abuse the 5 sec rule to the max. Maybe not the fastest killer but its always stady
I know I'm necro-ing your video, but I saw that you mentioned Spirit being high priority. Would you say Stam > Spirit > Int > SP > all others? ....While leveling anyway.
Stam on Gear isn't realy neccesary. You have Stam-Buff+Shield. Thats enough. So Spellpower>Spirit>Int>Stam. MP5 is also nice later on
*For leveling. For Raiding a certain amount of stam ist necessary to survive certain mechanics
Cant levelling in holy talent for do dungeon ?
Why don’t you have any points in spirit tap?
I've leveled as holy dps before and it's absolutely fine. You still have spirit tap and wand specialization, you're just continuing to cast smite instead of switching to mind flay and taking the talents that buff holy damage. You miss out on the slow from mind flay but that's about it pre-40. If being the first priest to hit 60 on the server is not a priority to you I would suggest you play it however you like. From 40 onward I think Shadow has a clear advantage just from the physical damage reduction alone, but Holy DPS is still surprisingly competitive and can even pull fairly average dps in raids under the right conditions, though not in cutting edge play. They synergize with ret paladins similar to how shadow synergizes with warlocks. For instance, it's top dps for Twin Emperors because the magic resistant boss lacks holy resistance thus eliminating the need for movement in an extremely movement intensive fight.
Love this tutorial :-). I have 52 holy priest. Love healing dungeons, but questing and drinking after every couple of mobs is not fun. I am now considering crating one more priest for shadow. Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad idea to respec shadow and try healing if needed.
Is Heirloom armor nixed?
I also am doing a shadow priest and want to roll on your and Sony's guild. Hope you have room for one more!
I prefer leveling as holy. Dmg isnt really different, atleast before shadowform. U still use spirit tap and wand, miss out on blackout but doesnt really matter. I level faster as it, but might be that im used to it. Specially later, having to drop shadowform just to get health up costs a lot of mana. Think I'll go lock in classic tho
Can you comment on builds that take shadow weaving, but don't go full shadow? how much does one lose from not going full healer, and how significant would the contribution of a full shadow priest be instead of having another healer that just dots the boss instead for shadow weaving stacks, I feel versatility is under appreciated and people just min max because "muh meters" but maybe I'm wrong so I'd like your expert opinion.
Yo can you release a talent video? Talk about what its like to play Spriest in pvp bgs, is it fun? do you get perma trained? how do i choose between this and lock. thanks
If you just wanna PvP for fun, Spriest dominates. In premades, Spriests aren't taken. They're damage is constantly dispelled.
Shadow priest is still pretty much top dps for pvp ya? I still wanna heal but since I can’t be paladin on horde I’m a little worried healing as priest for the pvp side.. especially with how strong rogues and wars seem in classic?