Persona 1 Review - Dreaming of Butterflies

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  • @ubermaster1
    @ubermaster1 3 роки тому +185

    I also always loved how the students in P1 have legit firearms.
    Like they're thrusted into this absolutely bizarre and terrifying situation and they just immediately start packing heat like a pack of chads.

    • @jackcouch8322
      @jackcouch8322 Рік тому +24

      I mean…you want to go in with a golf club like Yu? A gun is a better choice at the end of the day.

  • @SenhorKoringa
    @SenhorKoringa 4 роки тому +2330

    If they didn’t change the game format, the persona games wouldn’t be so popular, but then p1 and p2 would be more popular

    • @薔薇-k2m
      @薔薇-k2m 4 роки тому +274

      Considering that P1 sold as much copies first week as did P5 is japan, I doubt it. It could've been as popular.

    • @PlanScare
      @PlanScare 4 роки тому +161

      @@薔薇-k2m maybe in Japan but not in the west

    • @薔薇-k2m
      @薔薇-k2m 4 роки тому +169

      Plan Maybe if Atlus didn't fuck up with their localization.

    • @PlanScare
      @PlanScare 4 роки тому +34

      @@薔薇-k2m even if they got it right it would still be a weird anime game

    • @oswaldoandres8963
      @oswaldoandres8963 4 роки тому +64

      like all megaten spinoffs more anime and less goth stuff and that make them appealing than the original franchise

  • @PedroMatos482
    @PedroMatos482 4 роки тому +3591

    I get why people want a Persona 3 remake, but god the first two need one so much more. Persona 1 needs a remake to fully explore its story, while Persona 2 needs a remake so we can experience the amazing story with actually good gameplay.

    • @PlanScare
      @PlanScare 4 роки тому +212

      Definitely . All persona 3 needs is a remaster

    • @PedroMatos482
      @PedroMatos482 4 роки тому +310

      @@PlanScare Yeah. A version that has both FES and Portable content is more than enough.

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 4 роки тому +90

      They didn't have bad gameplay though, they were just a bit easy.
      And then the PSP remake made IS even easier...

    • @ofthenoseclan
      @ofthenoseclan 4 роки тому +124

      Personally I really disagree on Persona 2 having poor gameplay. The Fusion Spell mechanic is a great way to experiment with combinations, and Group Contact is one of the most fun ways of mixing character interactions with the moment-to-moment gameplay of the battles. The battles flow incredibly well (with the exception of Innocent Sin's PSP rerelease where they slightly tweaked the way rounds worked, which hurt the pacing of fights by a fair bit - I'm glad that Eternal Punishment PSP reverted back to the way the PS1 versions played).
      I only have 3 problems with the game. First, its dungeon designs are uncreative and repetitive. Second, the encounter rate is too high - If the PSP rereleases had just lowered the encounter rate and raised the experience enemies gave you, instead of lowering the difficulty (along with IS not changing what I mentioned above) I would consider them to be the perfect rereleases. Third, grinding for cards is a poor fusion system, and could be easily reworked to lower the time you need to spend in order to gain cards from demons.
      I'm not against the games getting rereleases or remakes at all, because if they turn out to be not good or unfaithful to the originals in my eyes, I just won't play the remade versions, simple as that. But saying that Classic Persona has poor gameplay is just unfair criticism given all the great ideas the games tried out, and most of the time accomplished.

    • @PedroMatos482
      @PedroMatos482 4 роки тому +64

      @@ofthenoseclan I mean, those three things you stated are exactly the reason I don't like their gameplay. Lame or annoying dungeons with a stupidly high random encounter rate (with the encounters not visible on the map) is a recipe to make me dislike a JRPG instantly, and the poor "fusion" system (which isn't even fusion, let's be fair, it's just essentially buying Personas) is just even worse when I go into this game with the experience from the incredibly fun fusions in mainline SMT and Personas 3-5. I didn't HATE P2's gameplay, but it was certainly a slog to get through, held up by its amazing story and characters. I honestly enjoyed P1's gameplay more.

  • @soupgirl1864
    @soupgirl1864 4 роки тому +1398

    "nobody ever talks about the game that kicked off this SMT spinoff."
    SMT If... review when?

    • @papieverett
      @papieverett 4 роки тому +292

      Persona 5 fans: What’s SMT

    • @EsPoReNg
      @EsPoReNg 4 роки тому +93

      no one should experience world of sloth...

    • @NamsCompendium
      @NamsCompendium  4 роки тому +241

      When I get around to actually playing the game myself probably.

    • @matt4193
      @matt4193 4 роки тому +74

      SMT if....? if what?

    • @soupgirl1864
      @soupgirl1864 4 роки тому +58

      @@matt4193 a SMT spinoff that was a precursor to persona. Persona 0, if you will

  • @makotoyuki345
    @makotoyuki345 4 роки тому +1237

    There was always that “charm” of playing the first persona
    The atmosphere or aesthetics maybe? I don’t know but I still like it

    • @CrowCrojoINTJ
      @CrowCrojoINTJ 4 роки тому +44

      Hey Makoto
      You’re my favorite Wild Card

    • @makotoyuki345
      @makotoyuki345 4 роки тому +25

      「 Psycrow; Split 」 thank you

    • @charxeleon6313
      @charxeleon6313 4 роки тому +34

      「 Psycrow; Split 」 hey wtf man?

    • @makotoyuki345
      @makotoyuki345 4 роки тому +25

      Yu Narukami hey Yu wanna go golfing? I know a good spot

    • @ziedkarmndi2722
      @ziedkarmndi2722 4 роки тому +11

      @@makotoyuki345 hi door kun

  • @jelliott7080
    @jelliott7080 4 роки тому +902

    I love how some people were confused when Aria of the Soul in smash ultimate was labelled with the origin game "Revelations Persona" instead of p3, p4, or p5 it was hilarious

    • @smartstuf1026
      @smartstuf1026 4 роки тому +146

      J Elliott honestly as a smash fan who only really dove into the series because of smash I don’t remember a lot of people talking about it coming from revelations but I do remember a bunch of jokes about the only references to p1,2, and eternal punishment was joker’s alts.

    • @martintuvounperro
      @martintuvounperro 4 роки тому +77

      Nobody was confused about that man

    • @ye9945
      @ye9945 4 роки тому +16

      You persona fans are insufferable.

    • @smartstuf1026
      @smartstuf1026 4 роки тому +31

      Y E you got a problem? I’m not even a persona fan

    • @thisninja11
      @thisninja11 4 роки тому +25

      Y E poo poo pee pee

  • @solanosantana3714
    @solanosantana3714 4 роки тому +488

    The amount of death related names in the Snow Queen reminds me of Persona 3. Nemesis, Hypno, Nyx, Tartarus, Thanatos and etc. I guess the themes really were already there

    • @raidoukuzonoha883
      @raidoukuzonoha883 4 роки тому +68

      There from Greek mythology

    • @pennysantana247
      @pennysantana247 4 роки тому +11

      Hey, we have the same last name!

    • @דפנהגרינבלום
      @דפנהגרינבלום 4 роки тому +38

      Actually, Snow Queen is the prototype for Persona 3. Even Tartarus appears there

    • @Dong_Harvey
      @Dong_Harvey 4 роки тому +11

      It is essentially meant to segue into P3.. 4 and 5 are post 'break' as you defeat the system that defined the earlier Persona rituals

    • @krimsonkatt
      @krimsonkatt 2 роки тому +3

      And the final boss is the same lol.

  • @lighting2374
    @lighting2374 4 роки тому +735

    Imo if theres any game that deserves a remake its this one.

    • @raidoukuzonoha883
      @raidoukuzonoha883 4 роки тому +70

      Ikr people beg for P3 remake yet I have to say P1 and to a lesser extent P2 IS and EP need it more since P3 has aged decently well.

    • @Esto_Quod_Es_iii
      @Esto_Quod_Es_iii 4 роки тому +6

      👏YES👏YES👏YES👏 👏Y E S👏

    • @potatistatis6709
      @potatistatis6709 4 роки тому +6

      @@raidoukuzonoha883 Tartarus.

    • @raidoukuzonoha883
      @raidoukuzonoha883 4 роки тому +33

      Potatis Tatis suck it up it ain’t that bad

    • @warningdontread5478
      @warningdontread5478 4 роки тому +30

      What's infuriating it's that it doesn't need a remake in the sense that it's completely unplayable in its current state, it's just that, especially in the west, we don't have a definite way of playing this game. If you choose a version you heavily sacrifice something the other version does right. Also the battle system can be reworked since it works, but it's just baffling some choices they made.

  • @mannersworld
    @mannersworld 4 роки тому +675

    Wait a minute wait a minute are you telling me all it takes for the Persona 1 protagonist to kill death incarnate is whip out his gun and shoot Nyx in the face, but Makoto from Persona 3 has to use the power of all the friendships he made to awaken the universe Arcana and then use the power of the universe the seal Nyx dieing in the process.
    Man Makoto's a punk he should have turn that evoker on Nyx Instead of himself.

    • @NamsCompendium
      @NamsCompendium  4 роки тому +421

      Guns > Power of bonds

    • @MaximumAddition
      @MaximumAddition 4 роки тому +222

      The P1 and P2s protagonists and even party members are probably the strongest in the series' world in context, considering that they're all basically wild cards save for afinities, as well as the fact that at least the P2 cast straight up can just summon their Personas whenever without needing to be in the meta world of the game

    • @ofthenoseclan
      @ofthenoseclan 4 роки тому +185

      ​@@MaximumAddition That and they all do not give two shits about the power of friendship
      P1 cast will not hesitate to beat the snot out of anyone and then laugh in their face

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 4 роки тому +8

      @llinium *the stronger one

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +22

      @@ofthenoseclan Basically what they did to the snow queen hahahahaha

  • @boohoo723
    @boohoo723 4 роки тому +521

    The reason Reiji adds so much to P1 is that he's
    *SPOILERS*
    Kandori's younger brother, so you get some cool extra scenes if he's your 5th party member.

    • @MurdersAndExecutions
      @MurdersAndExecutions 4 роки тому +85

      SPOILER-
      Younger *Step Brother that detail matters a lot in their relationship

    • @airman6250
      @airman6250 4 роки тому +29

      Eriko best choice

    • @moraeza
      @moraeza 4 роки тому +17

      I found Reiji very amusing but I feel like no guide online properly explains how to get him and I had to refer to multiple

    • @moraeza
      @moraeza 4 роки тому +7

      He’s definitely a favorite of mine now but dang..the first time I started up I had to restart because the guide I was looking at I think ign guide didnt explain properly at all

    • @matheusmoreira9951
      @matheusmoreira9951 4 роки тому +49

      Yeah, I find it so weird how one of the characters that has most stakes in the SEBEC route is a completly missable party member. Imagine if in P5 during Madarame's Palace you could possibly not even meet Yusuke and miss him for the entire game.

  • @alezarde211
    @alezarde211 4 роки тому +678

    Persona 1, and the 2 duology as well, are amazing games. But it’s not that they’ve been forgotten. They’re from a different era of RPG game design. Really if the gameplay was sped up and it kept their aesthetics then they would be amazing. But remember, these games are slooooow. I love them. But they are very slow, which I feel many can forget about

    • @MaximumAddition
      @MaximumAddition 4 роки тому +92

      The fact they're relatively neglected by Atlus themselves doesn't help matters much, considering P1 didn't get its original music arranged until P5 Scramble

    • @薔薇-k2m
      @薔薇-k2m 4 роки тому +23

      Maximum Addition Wait, they arranged P1 music for Scramble?
      I almost beat the game by now and didn't notice.

    • @MaximumAddition
      @MaximumAddition 4 роки тому +12

      @@薔薇-k2m Yeah! Look up Persona 5 Scramble Normal Battle Refine Version

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah that's mainly what got me to stop playing the first persona game back on psp. It had some animation skip function but it didn't work properly so it was still slow as hell

    • @bun_66
      @bun_66 4 роки тому +17

      I dunno in which dimension you live but yes, they're practically forgotten. And you can skip whole attacks animations, damn, it makes fights even shorter than in next Persona games

  • @tristysstuff6664
    @tristysstuff6664 4 роки тому +453

    Seems like one of those games that could have been really good but suffers from "Old RPG" syndrome.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +42

      funnily enough, the encounter rate and difficulty were both reduced in the NA version.

    • @CidGuerreiro1234
      @CidGuerreiro1234 4 роки тому +51

      Yep, going back to old RPGs can be really tough, you need to be REALLY determined to play them. I played Xenogears on emulator some time ago because I had never finished it on the PS1 and my fucking God, the insane encounter rate nearly made me quit playing it. I couldn't even run away from fights since apparently escaping raises the encounter rate even higher, I'd just get another almost instantly after escaping and would just end up wasting even more time.

    • @takobocchi6057
      @takobocchi6057 4 роки тому +25

      @@CidGuerreiro1234 that's why I use gameshark codes for old JRPGs, it's just so fucking annoying when you're trying to enjoy the story.

    • @daxcore0920
      @daxcore0920 4 роки тому +7

      @@CidGuerreiro1234 Its a shame. Because Xenogears its an excellent game!, but that encounter rate can really frustate.

    • @CidGuerreiro1234
      @CidGuerreiro1234 4 роки тому +5

      @@daxcore0920 It sure is, I'm glad I managed to finally finish it despite the maddening encounter rate.

  • @blatchie4608
    @blatchie4608 4 роки тому +195

    "the Pandora fight isn't too difficult"
    That thing took me over 2 hours to beat :(

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +6

      took you 2 hours to beat the meat eh?

    • @blatchie4608
      @blatchie4608 4 роки тому +23

      @@GiordanDiodato yeah, granted I was underlevelled and didn't know what Ultimate Personas are. I had this loop that got me to cycle healing moves between. Each party member where in the end, only about 1-2 of them could attack at certain phases

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 4 роки тому +20

      @@blatchie4608 ah yeah that's the thing lol. Protags ultimate persona gets a signature move at max rank that kinda cheeses the final bosses. Granted, its something you have to REALLY work for and even i as someone who doesnt really agree with the "too grindy" complaint can admit by the time you're headed to the final dungeons of both routes and get the ultimates, leveling up does become slow at that point. But otherwise, i just like to turn battle animations off, chill by a trish spring and go back and forth for random battles when i grind in p1. Actually a relatively speedy process for the rest of the game

    • @xtato01
      @xtato01 3 роки тому +5

      @@GiordanDiodato It takes me 2 hours to beat the meat too.... erectile dysfunction sucks man

  • @adachichungus
    @adachichungus 4 роки тому +219

    persona 1 has kei nanjo so it's good

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando 4 роки тому +45

    The Snow Queen quest seems like a prototype of the kind of stories that would be the mainstay of the series later.

  • @HyrulianBeast
    @HyrulianBeast 4 роки тому +315

    Nam: This game has a lot of replayability because of the different characters you can obtain.
    Also Nam: I didn't want to try out this character cause I didn't want to replay the game.
    just found this funny x3

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 10 місяців тому +1

      old comment but despite having the likes of Akihiko, Kanji and makoto in later games being so unbalanced compared to everyone else, P1 really takes the cake of having the most unbalanced party balancing in the series as Elly and Nanjo are just really good party members that are available in both routes and cause of this if you wanted to optimize you will end up using both without getting the chance to use Brown and Reiji in the game period, what's funny is that Reiji who is advertised as the secret party member is actually kind of trashy to use with a very linear setup to work with and requires extensive investment to make him work really well for you compared to elly who can join much earlier and has really good affinity with the judgement arcana and can just offer you much more by comparison with less investment

    • @andrewstephenson5825
      @andrewstephenson5825 9 місяців тому

      ​@@nightwish1453I could've had Elly in my party instead of Brown my whole playthrough? Damn

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 9 місяців тому

      @@andrewstephenson5825 yeah the game unlike the later stuff where party members is like a yay thing in 1 you have to say no to to some people in order to get the character you want if you don't get the requirements to get reiji and say no to everyone ayase (who in gameplay is just a shitty version of maki) just forces herself on your team. SQQ you have more flexibility on party composition with 2 optional slots to choose betwen 3 characters and Nanjo and Elly are still available to you so outside of at least using everyone once you can blaze through and stick with nanjo and elly the whole way and it makes the playthrough a bit easier to go through

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 9 місяців тому

      @@andrewstephenson5825 also at this point "just use elly bro" should become a meme

  • @hectorthe1444
    @hectorthe1444 4 роки тому +252

    "Game that kicked off this smt spin-off"
    Cries in smt if

    • @hectorthe1444
      @hectorthe1444 4 роки тому +19

      Gee that sure sounds like something that can kick off something

    • @vetreas366
      @vetreas366 4 роки тому +5

      I hear you, brother :(

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +4

      @Weston Meyer technically you're half right

    • @NickKrishnan
      @NickKrishnan 4 роки тому +2

      how did SMT if precede the persona series in any way besides being set in a high school?

    • @vixeytod9265
      @vixeytod9265 3 роки тому +17

      @@NickKrishnan The Guardian system. In SMT:If, whenever you or your partner dies, you receive a Guardian that revives you and grants you new spells and alters your stats. Guardians are essentially the precursors of Personas, except every time you die, your Guardian changes.

  • @BrUh-tu5nt
    @BrUh-tu5nt 4 роки тому +54

    It's very interesting that Atlus somewhat uses ideas from Persona 1 in the recent Persona games.

    • @Fang_Tooth
      @Fang_Tooth 3 роки тому +6

      because they're all the same series and that's the one that started things off? that's like saying pokemon red inspires and uses ideas in every other pokemon game when they're all sequels to red and none are reboots.

    • @BrUh-tu5nt
      @BrUh-tu5nt 3 роки тому +12

      @@Fang_Tooth I just find it interesting that they use similar story elements from this game into the other persona games

    • @Fang_Tooth
      @Fang_Tooth 3 роки тому

      @@BrUh-tu5nt ah sorry ig

    • @maca673
      @maca673 3 роки тому +15

      Yep. Persona Q had the similarity between Maki/Rei being ill girls hospitalized their whole lives. And while its manga-exclusive, the subplot with Naoya and his dead twin brother Kazuya is repeated with Kasumi/Sumire in Persona 5.

    • @Igneeka
      @Igneeka 3 роки тому +6

      @@maca673 That and obviously Maki being like Maruki, creating a new, happier reality, choosing the easier way out

  • @jayplatt3831
    @jayplatt3831 4 роки тому +134

    Keywords for her palace:
    Maki Sonomura
    The World
    A Nightmare

  • @AraiiarA
    @AraiiarA 3 роки тому +242

    To people interested in Persona 1 but are turned off by the gameplay and underdeveloped story then I recommend reading the manga.
    It is genuinely very good.

    • @jeus_cnt
      @jeus_cnt 2 роки тому +4

      Is it just the same story but manga?

    • @AraiiarA
      @AraiiarA 2 роки тому +40

      @@jeus_cnt it's not really. It's better than the game's story.
      The characters are more developed and the so is the story. They made Naoya an actual character with a pretty interesting backstory.

    • @iunnoo
      @iunnoo 2 роки тому +4

      could I go into persona 2 pretending that the manga is canon?

    • @AraiiarA
      @AraiiarA 2 роки тому +16

      @@iunnoo yes. In fact you could play Persona 2 while completely skipping Persona 1's story if you really wanted

    • @Emparial_nuggetz
      @Emparial_nuggetz 2 роки тому +4

      @@iunnoo none of the persona series are linked the only thing similar is the use of personas and the velvet room and I'm pretty sure the velvet room is only in persona no. 3, 4 and 5

  • @Scout-Fanfiction
    @Scout-Fanfiction 4 роки тому +63

    Thanks for deciding to cover the initial 3 games in the series :). The older games don't get discussed as often imo (i agree that Persona 1 deserves a "from the ground up" remake).

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      Problem is they'd have to drag Okada out of retirement

  • @heromedley
    @heromedley 3 роки тому +36

    japanese mark: "no please dont turn me into a ethnically diverse character!"
    black mark:

  • @Wrenchy247
    @Wrenchy247 4 роки тому +65

    This video, but every time he says "missed potential" it gets faster

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 4 роки тому +51

    The more I see about persona 1 the more curious I am about it. Dream of Butterfly and Lone Prayer have no business being as good as they are

  • @aidanostering9919
    @aidanostering9919 4 роки тому +30

    Ironically, the way you get the most out of Kandori as a villian is if you pick Reiji, as he has his own seperate reasons to take out Kandori, which are explained throughout the game.

  • @tarodeculture
    @tarodeculture 4 роки тому +45

    The best thing about Persona 1 is that you can cheese it. If you fuse the right Persona and know where to go, you can beat the main story in less than 10 hours. I beat it four times (Bad end, Elly end, Reiji end, and Snow Queen). Maybe it isn't the best game, but I wouldn't say that it's terrible. Besides, it's got the casino which will kill more time than you think.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +2

      yeah but who wants to beat an RPG in 10 hours?

    • @bobgray6498
      @bobgray6498 4 роки тому +25

      @@GiordanDiodato as 32 y/o with a full time job and other responsibilities, a 10 hour RPG would be heaven for me lol

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      @@bobgray6498 then play the first Star Ocean

  • @Yeen66
    @Yeen66 4 роки тому +82

    imagine if atlus remade revelations persona but it was updated and looked like p5

    • @enzoqueijao
      @enzoqueijao 3 роки тому +17

      Eh, P1 has a really nice old rpg aesthetic, I think it'd be better if they stuck with it

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 3 роки тому +4

      Would the old artstyle fit the look of the new games though?

    • @manuelredgrave8348
      @manuelredgrave8348 3 роки тому

      9/10,game of the month

    • @RaspyCh
      @RaspyCh 3 роки тому

      I hope it doesn’t look like p5 cause then people will just say “it looks like p5”

    • @Yeen66
      @Yeen66 3 роки тому

      @@RaspyCh nobody but you would say that

  • @TimBitten
    @TimBitten 4 роки тому +47

    Negotiations feel like a real interaction due to their slightly random nature. Back in the day that was my favorite part.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      I actually hated the ones in EP cause they were a crapshoot

  • @technicallythecenteroftheu1349
    @technicallythecenteroftheu1349 4 роки тому +126

    "His goal is to use the Deva system to create a reality where he has absolute power and can become god, but we know nothing about his motivations."
    Bruh.

    • @narutardkyuubi
      @narutardkyuubi 4 роки тому +68

      It’s funny; by the time you reach him, he admits he’s bored as all hell being ‘God’ since he had nothing but ambition.
      Wouldn’t even be much of a boss fight if it wasn’t for Kei insulting him, and then Nyarlathotep course correcting.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 4 роки тому +44

      @@narutardkyuubi Kandoris whole thing was nihilism. He's a parallel to Maki (everyone really), but a little more extreme in that well, 1) he kidnapped a sickly high school girl and used her negative emotions to reality warp shit, but also he just wanted to find meaning in his own existence but couldn't. The game doesn't have the cinematic elaborate cutscenes 2 onwards has to really visually spell it out in an explicit way, but pay attention to the questions Mai and Kandori asks the player as hints to what's going on with him. As you said, he's aimless ambition, searching for a reason,a goal. And when he achieves what he thinks he wants, he's still not satisfied because there's nothing else to accomplish next.

    • @cesarpalavecinosaraya1065
      @cesarpalavecinosaraya1065 3 роки тому +12

      @@MagillanicaLouM deva yuga has an arranged version where you can listen to a dialogue between maki and kandori and is the most nihilistic shit i've ever heard. They even say "you and i are the same" and talk about stuff like "i want to change", "that's a waste of time", "i can't change", "there is no meaning in life, you should know that" and so on.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому +2

      @@cesarpalavecinosaraya1065 yup yup

  • @daehan8227
    @daehan8227 4 роки тому +184

    Now honestly as a fan of Personas 1-3 I would love to see P1 and 2's duology get more love and respect amongst these younger fans. Heck I'd be down for a P1 remake next year knowing it's turning 25 yrs old. Just don't throw in those somewhat annoying social aspects. Though a metroidvania based off P1's spin off Tower of a different sky would gnarly as well

    • @NamsCompendium
      @NamsCompendium  4 роки тому +88

      If there is a remake, I want it to stay as faithful to the original version as possible while patching up the stuff that is a bit shaky (at least in my opinion) they don't need the social aspects to make the game good. Because as of right now, there's already a really strong foundation that just needs some work.

    • @daehan8227
      @daehan8227 4 роки тому +4

      @@NamsCompendium finally someone i could agree with

    • @simpcat4415
      @simpcat4415 4 роки тому +8

      We probably would respect it if we could feasibly play them. I've only been able to play Persona 4 and 5 because I don't have a PS Vita and I am not gonna buy one to play one series.

    • @daehan8227
      @daehan8227 4 роки тому +4

      @@simpcat4415 Oh well. Looks like you miss out on the more interesting stories of the series imo. Your lose then i suppose, they would fun and interesting games.

    • @daehan8227
      @daehan8227 4 роки тому +3

      @@simpcat4415 my bad i was drunk. Damn I live margaritas and Jaeger bombs. Though I guess you aren't a fan of emulators?

  • @dontmindmefangirling3123
    @dontmindmefangirling3123 4 роки тому +207

    Wait, a dream world created by a single person, where she traps other people to let them live a perfect life and after you defeat her she realizes her wrongs.
    Sounds a little familiar

    • @rabbitpushingmower
      @rabbitpushingmower 3 роки тому +16

      Madoka magica, right? Unless im mistaken

    • @kalemuncher9425
      @kalemuncher9425 3 роки тому +77

      @@rabbitpushingmower He's referring to Takuto Maruki from Persona 5 Royal

    • @rabbitpushingmower
      @rabbitpushingmower 3 роки тому +6

      @@kalemuncher9425 d a m n , I see

    • @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626
      @sophiaisstillagoodunit6626 3 роки тому +11

      Nah he is clearly talking about meduka meguca

    • @maca673
      @maca673 3 роки тому +28

      Also Persona Q. Maki and Rei are eerily similar in how they cause the events of their respective games. Two ill girls confined to hospitals, embittered and envious about missing out on the joys of life.

  • @OrwinSantaCruz
    @OrwinSantaCruz 4 роки тому +116

    On ps1, there was nothing like it. I loved the setting and the way the characters got along. It’s only gotten better in the sequels but back then was really unique. The game was too hard though. It had long battles and the last dungeon, which I never finished, had a lot of blind walking and excessive enemy rate. I couldn’t finish it even when cheating with action replay and quick level up. It’s still special to me in my heart though and that art was no joke. I use to have the guide just for the art.

    • @MapleMilk
      @MapleMilk 4 роки тому

      You perfectly described why I can't stand the ps1 version
      I need to play the PSP version because I'm sure I'll like it but that PS1 version left a bad taste in my mouth.
      Good music though

    • @Sune
      @Sune 4 роки тому +8

      thanks for sharing your experience! If the artist (Kazuma Kaneko) heard your words, I'm sure he'd be super happy.

    • @foxhound6364
      @foxhound6364 4 роки тому +15

      @@MapleMilk It really is worth it. The PSP version is a bit too easy, but it really is one of the best games ever made. Dungeons are really quick and fun and the encounter rate isn't as bad as people say. I think the real problem people have is that battles move a bit slow.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +3

      @@MapleMilk the PSP version fixed a lot of the problems

    • @firestar4407
      @firestar4407 4 роки тому +7

      Too bad PSP version replaced and tossed away many of the awesome PS1 tracks for literally no reason.

  • @Fang_Tooth
    @Fang_Tooth 3 роки тому +13

    10:03 that's because of the moon, depending on how full the moon is will determine how most demons react to certain things, so you may have to leave the game afk for several minutes just so you can negotiate with a certain demon and have a higher chance of getting a spell card.

    • @lunathegamer
      @lunathegamer 2 роки тому +1

      The same thing goes for the SMT series, on some phase, demons are just extremely eager to join me no questions asked, but other times, it feels like I’m pulling teeth just trying to get one to join me

  • @Skullnaught
    @Skullnaught 4 роки тому +39

    If you ever decide to play it again, please get Reiji. He has a great story and even appears in P2

  • @Silver94ig
    @Silver94ig 4 роки тому +15

    There is actually an answer guide on the internet, that gives you the right choices for each demon. And if you make a demon angry with one of the right choices, you can always switch the answering charakter (I learned that darn piece of information near the end, so screw me 😂). I didn't know though, that there are two routes in this game, I always assumed, that you have to go the sebec route to begin with. 😅

  • @DigiNiverg
    @DigiNiverg 4 роки тому +38

    YES IF YOU READ THIS PLAY IT PERSONA 1 HOLDS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART, WITH WONDERFUL STORY

    • @mastracu66207
      @mastracu66207 4 роки тому +1

      Ok

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 3 роки тому

      I tried to play it 3 times and I couldnt get into it. Sorry

    • @TheEmperorRaidou
      @TheEmperorRaidou 3 роки тому +1

      @@KyngD469 then that's ur problem

  • @alicemargatroid52
    @alicemargatroid52 4 роки тому +23

    "the game that started this SMT spin off series"
    so SMT if.. ?

  • @pedrohsilva7473
    @pedrohsilva7473 4 роки тому +106

    Waiting to see you talk about my favorite persona games, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment.
    By the way, persona 1 is ok, but don't have to much to talk about. I really don't like the expirence share in this game, I remember beat the game with MC lvl60 and the party around lvl50~55.
    Hugs from brazil.

    • @pedrohsilva7473
      @pedrohsilva7473 4 роки тому +3

      Será que junto outros br aqui?

    • @zitazitozzz8133
      @zitazitozzz8133 4 роки тому +3

      Salve rapeize

    • @chromso
      @chromso 4 роки тому

      AYO BACK OFF SOCIAL DISTANCING

    • @SaulosPlayer
      @SaulosPlayer 4 роки тому +3

      Persona na veia rapaziada

    • @PedroMatos482
      @PedroMatos482 4 роки тому +4

      É sempre legal ver outros brs onde eu menos espero hahah

  • @aurorain2853
    @aurorain2853 4 роки тому +133

    Persona 1 has its flaws for sure, and is admittedly quite dated, though I still personally love it despite that. Atlus probably won't make a remake any time soon, if ever, unfortunately.
    Also, provided you go through the hassle of taking Reiji along, you do actually get some extra info and depth on Kandori.
    Oh, and yeah it's hard not to like Ayase.

    • @薔薇-k2m
      @薔薇-k2m 4 роки тому +21

      There's a fan remake in works. PSP version, but iirc they are bringing back the old music and doing a lot of other cool things.

    • @shade4404
      @shade4404 4 роки тому +6

      @@薔薇-k2m For real?
      Wow, that's great news!
      I played p1 on psp and loved it despite it's many flaws, to me it was an addicting, charming little game, and after I beat it I just kept watching videos about it and even read the manga.
      Can you send a link to the news source?
      Or by chance, the actuall version when it will be done.

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +2

      @@薔薇-k2m bru what? Really? Can you send a link of this or something i want to learn more about this, i really love persona 1 ( even with his flaws, i started to like it in the middle of the game ) so if people are making a fan remake about this i would really love see it

    • @shade4404
      @shade4404 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidpmendez4321 hell yeah I'm on board too

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +1

      @@shade4404 >DANCE CRAZY

  • @Nebellune
    @Nebellune 4 роки тому +114

    Can't wait to watch this one. Persona 1 seems like such an odd game.

  • @Zikuu_
    @Zikuu_ 4 роки тому +19

    Congratulations on 5000 man, the stream was fun.

  • @QMMarc
    @QMMarc 4 роки тому +50

    Ok, big boomer time, Revelations Persona WAS MY FIRST, and only actually, I only played 2 when it came to the psp, then went and play the other one which was fucky cause EP carries the name change from Revelations, which IS's remaster doesn't so my brain took a while to process it all thank you Atlus for not translating EP's remaster, idiots.
    Watching this video made me want to check out the Ice Queen quest, even tho' it really sounds like a pain, and also, Shin Megami Tensei If, which got a translation and it's said to be kind of the proto Persona.

    • @Sune
      @Sune 4 роки тому +6

      I got nothing but respect for Persona boomers :) y'all were holding it down way back.
      I think by the time Atlus could have translated EP, the PSP in the West was already dying/dead. and considering the sales of IS for PSP, I guess it didn't make sense business-wise? there's some stuff online here and there for why the game never made it over. it was unfortunate timing, all in all...I hope one day the ENTIRE duology can make it to the West properly, whether they're ports or remakes.

    • @QMMarc
      @QMMarc 4 роки тому +7

      @@Sune I'm finger crossing for that news that Atlus gonna port more shit to pc after Golden sold like hot cakes, just pack 1, 2 and 2 together and sell it, i'd buy it in a heartbeat honestly.

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +1

      @@Sune same

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому

      @@QMMarc same

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      they didn't localize EP PSP because it bombed in Japan.

  • @JP_KI
    @JP_KI 4 роки тому +8

    I actually didn't know about the party member positioning until like halfway through the game. I wondered why some party members felt so underpowered, mostly Mark, and once I figured out you can actually move people around so they can hit stuff I felt so bad for him

  • @xionnaoto7685
    @xionnaoto7685 4 роки тому +10

    As a person who started with Persona 5, I definitely wanted to check out the game that started it all and I’ve been trying to find ways to play it (recently found out about the emulator) and just hearing the story, gameplay, and changes they made to the game really has me wanting a remake for this game! The snow queen quest got me hook! I definitely want to see you cover Persona 2’s games

  • @Pokemanic33
    @Pokemanic33 4 роки тому +199

    The worst part of Persona is its lack of a truly accurate western release. The PlayStation version is a dumpster fire and the PSP version is easily preferable, but it's still not really ideal. It throws out the game's dark, ambient aesthetic in favor of a UI and soundtrack that attempts (and fails) to homogenize the game into the aesthetic of the modern games. There's a patch to reimplement some of the PlayStation music, but due to the difference in structure (there's far less songs and they're far shorter) it's a band-aid solution at best.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +17

      it's really not any darker than P3-5
      regardless, I think they threw out the original OST either because Soejima didn't like the original music or Okada pulled a Led Zeppelin, honoring one of the composers, who is dead
      though that doesn't explain why Innocent Sin PSP had the option of the original music.

    • @Pokemanic33
      @Pokemanic33 4 роки тому +50

      @@GiordanDiodato I suppose "dark" may not have been the most accurate term, but I Still stand by "ambient." It probably would have been more accurate to say "atmospheric" or something to the effect. But even if the tone did line up, it wouldn't explain why the PSP tracks are so much shorter and are reused so often. If they were working within hardware limitations then frankly they should have known that using lyrical music when the loops they were working with were ~1 minute in length would be repetitious and annoying.
      Persona 2 is an entirely different situation because not only did they include the original music, the new soundtrack is composed of new recordings of the same tracks. It's definitely a better choice to me (now if only they didn't butcher the combat...)

    • @mamacrow2759
      @mamacrow2759 4 роки тому +3

      i love persona 1 on the psp and prefer it with the new music, its a win win for me

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      @@Pokemanic33 did Innocent Sin PS1 have the same combat as Eternal Punishment PS1?

    • @Pokemanic33
      @Pokemanic33 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@GiordanDiodato Did PSP and PS1 have the same combat you mean? If that's the case, the answer is no. In PS1 it's almost like an "auto mode," where you set up actions at the beginning of your turn and it runs until you stop it, with a secondary more traditional mode you can activate. PSP reverses that, so the traditional mode is the default.

  • @narutk9
    @narutk9 4 роки тому +20

    This video was very informative and worth the 40 minute watch. I'm edging for an analyses of the Persona 2 games.

  • @kaleidoscopickait
    @kaleidoscopickait 4 роки тому +26

    I’ve only played P5R, but I always put the St Hermelin High outfit on Joker so I can listen to “Lone Prayer” during battles. I absolutely love this song, it’s such a gem.

    • @kaleidoscopickait
      @kaleidoscopickait 4 роки тому

      @Retendo yeah, on repeat it must get super annoying!

    • @pari8266
      @pari8266 4 роки тому +3

      @Retendo A Lone Prayer is unironically better than Take Over imo

    • @pari8266
      @pari8266 4 роки тому

      @Retendo Firstly, I have played 1. Secondly, what does if I've played 1 or not have to do with if I like the song?

    • @pari8266
      @pari8266 4 роки тому +1

      @Retendo damn you're right, silly of me to think I know whether I've played persona 1 or not. Clearly you know better.

    • @HiCenjoyer
      @HiCenjoyer 3 роки тому

      Play p4g and p3 at least.

  • @NickeyNarioaHagman
    @NickeyNarioaHagman 4 роки тому +15

    Good review. One missed point that I wished you brought up however was how important Mai's questions were in the gingerbread house within the forest. There's a reason why those questions determine whether you get the good ending or the bad ending: you get the good ending if you tell her to stop running away and to accept reality and to love herself the way she is, but you get the bad ending if you don't know what to tell her or if you tell her to keep hiding within her delusional fantasy. THIS is THE point of Persona: having the strength to face the truth and accept it.

  • @killjoy516
    @killjoy516 3 роки тому +5

    Though Persona 5 was my first Mega-ten game, this one still holds a special place in my heart. Despite the frustration I had with the encounter rate, everything else connected to me during a very lonely time. It felt like it had tried its best to piece together something I had lost a long time ago.

  • @Mike27301
    @Mike27301 4 роки тому +45

    Honestly you should read the Persona 1 manga the characters in the manga are way better than their game ones and the story is really good

    • @peropero2208
      @peropero2208 3 роки тому +6

      Kinda sad that they didn't seperate SEBEC route from Snow Queen route,not enough Yukino and Yuka

  • @mini-cafetos9410
    @mini-cafetos9410 4 роки тому +11

    Great video man! Super glad to see someone talk about the older Persona games, I can't wait for the Persona 2 video since imo P1 is just ok but P2 is actually really damn good and more people should play it.

  • @foxhound6364
    @foxhound6364 4 роки тому +55

    I played through Persona 1 for the first time a few weeks ago. What an AMAZING game. I loved every second of it. I did play on an emulator, and I did fast forward through some random encounters (though I did play the majority in normal time, except when doing endgame grinding to get everyone leveled for their ultimates), so I'm sure everyone's complaints about the slow combat and frequent encounters are valid, but this is still one of the few 10/10 games I've played. I finished Innocent Sin right after it, and despite that being a great game, I just wanted to replay P1 again throughout it. The first person perspective is so much better for dungeon crawling, and the pacing was so much better in P1. There was also a lot less aimless wandering and cryptic stuff in P1.

    • @theamazingrufus4845
      @theamazingrufus4845 4 роки тому +17

      Somebody who actually likes Persona 1? Marry me.

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +8

      I basically played the game 3 times if we count the bad ending (yeah it suck), good ending, and the snow queen quest.
      The game is really good, i enjoy it to the very end (even if i didn't understood the persona creation until my second playthrough)
      P.S. Marry me instead

    • @crazydianne7794
      @crazydianne7794 4 роки тому +3

      how did you not get lost?? I couldn't even find the hospital where I had to visit the sickly girl.

    • @theamazingrufus4845
      @theamazingrufus4845 4 роки тому +5

      Dianne Wilsons There’s a map. If your playing the PS1 Version it’s L1. For the PSP version all you need to do is go up and to the left. And the PSP overworld isn’t even that big.

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому +3

      @@crazydianne7794 wut

  • @TatsuHaven
    @TatsuHaven 4 роки тому +4

    Can’t wait for the p2 vid!

  • @SteelSpurs
    @SteelSpurs 4 роки тому +14

    I had a good time with this game until after the second to last boss. Was going to a save room, got jumped, and I got charm looped for about 10 minutes before eventually dying.

    • @shade4404
      @shade4404 4 роки тому

      I have a question for you.
      You said you had a good time, then stopped playing.
      So why is your profile pic the p1 protagonist?
      Did you finish the game in the end?

    • @SteelSpurs
      @SteelSpurs 4 роки тому

      @@shade4404 I never said I stopped playing. I just had a soured experience beating it. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.

    • @shade4404
      @shade4404 4 роки тому

      @@SteelSpurs Oh ok.
      I can see that you enjoyed the game via your profile pic (;

    • @cesarpalavecinosaraya1065
      @cesarpalavecinosaraya1065 3 роки тому +2

      @@SteelSpurs oh boy infinite ailment loops were like the worst part of the game, i got charmed loop too and had to reset to just get out of the battle, it has to be my least favorite of the franchise but i still like it and i think is the most interesting to talk about because of all the stuff inside and outside the game that you can discuss, also nice naoya profile pic.

  • @oscarmedina7368
    @oscarmedina7368 4 роки тому +11

    Persona 2 is my top one of the series. The story and depression atmosphere of the game really makes it stand out from the rest.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, did you play P3 or not?

    • @sergiosalazar8702
      @sergiosalazar8702 3 роки тому +4

      @@GiordanDiodato I mean, he can have a preference
      P3’s atmosphere is getting overrated by it’s fans imo

  • @raidoukuzonoha883
    @raidoukuzonoha883 4 роки тому +4

    Great content as always Nam

  • @mazokuwolf1279
    @mazokuwolf1279 4 роки тому +3

    In the 90’s, it was all about Final Fantasy, Crash Bandicoot, and Resident Evil when someone mentioned PS1. I never even heard of Persona until the 4th one. And I’ve never even played it until the 5th. This one REALLY must’ve went under the radar because I purchased many small and unknown games at the time and I’ve never came across it. Played and finished Nocturne in 2005 though. Didn’t know they were apart of the same franchise until recently either.

  • @richardbarro8045
    @richardbarro8045 4 роки тому +4

    I kind of like random encounters because if you decide to explore you’re going to grind so a high encounter rate rewards thorough players. It’s annoying but you get used to it and it’s helpful later in the game.

  • @papieverett
    @papieverett 4 роки тому +17

    Overwrite this pain tearing me apart

  • @MuradBeybalaev
    @MuradBeybalaev 4 роки тому +5

    0:31 Revelations: Persona wasn't what kicked off the spin-off - It was Shin Megami Tensei: If.
    That itself is a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei.
    Which itself is a reboot of Megami Tensei. Then you also gotta mention Devil Summoner…
    That is why people are scared to talk about the Persona origins.

  • @caracal8172
    @caracal8172 4 роки тому +20

    I personally liked it a lot, it is my third favorite persona game only topped by P4 in second place and the P2 duology in first.

    • @KOT_AMV
      @KOT_AMV 4 роки тому

      you rate p4 higher than 3? you monster

    • @Kmkmkms
      @Kmkmkms 4 роки тому

      @@KOT_AMV persona 2 is and p3 are my top favorites

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      which versions of P2?

    • @Kmkmkms
      @Kmkmkms 4 роки тому

      @@GiordanDiodato most people prefer persona 2 innocent sin than eternal punishment

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      @@Kmkmkms I meant the PSP versions or the PS1 versions?

  • @heinokunzelmann8967
    @heinokunzelmann8967 4 роки тому +34

    Can I just say, the music in the PS1 version fits this style much better than the J-poppy tracks they put in the remake

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +2

      but the PS1 version also has a map that goes at 10fps

    • @Mii-Min
      @Mii-Min 3 роки тому +5

      @@GiordanDiodato Actually Megami Ibunroku Persona has a double speed button on the overworld, you hold X I haven't played Revelations in years but original Release Megami Ibunroku Persona has this feature on both PSX And PC

  • @mariusbu2012
    @mariusbu2012 4 роки тому +3

    Please also make a vid for Persona 2. This one was really nice and the length was perfect!

  • @shinakizawa4624
    @shinakizawa4624 Місяць тому +2

    a little headcanon of mine but since in p1 and 2 the characters meet philemon he kinda grant something like a wild card but it's limited hence the persona arcana affinities while p3 4 5 mcs have the actual wild card ability which comes with more benefits and isn't as limited

  • @charxeleon6313
    @charxeleon6313 4 роки тому +17

    I’ve never heard anyone talk about p1 but I’m very curious as to what it is and how it’s presented. Thanks for bringing attention to the “forgotten game”! If you would, what do you think you’re going to review next?

    • @DigiNiverg
      @DigiNiverg 4 роки тому +2

      Play it bro, it has stuck with me so much!

    • @charxeleon6313
      @charxeleon6313 4 роки тому

      Daelen Martinez I probably will, it’s pretty cheap on PSVita so no reason not to :)

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      just avoid the PS1 version. it's awful

    • @charxeleon6313
      @charxeleon6313 4 роки тому

      @@GiordanDiodato don’t worry, I plan to, I’m just going to get the PSP classic version on vita :)

  • @hiraethion
    @hiraethion 4 роки тому +5

    Persona 1 is actually my personal favorite out of all. Maybe it's the simplistic story and the cast. They all feel so alive, and developed as the story went on. It's not perfect, but it's my favorite.

  • @dingdongbells3314
    @dingdongbells3314 4 роки тому +6

    0:17 "Why don't people talk about the persona games prior to Persona 3 nearly as much?"
    *Trenchcoat and Sunglasses Hitler* "Yes, I too would like to know."
    Jokes aside, I really did like Persona 1, even though I played it after Persona 3, Persona 4, and even Persona 2. It didn't quite hold up to me as much as Persona 2 Etnernal Sin, which is honestly one of my all time favorites. But I really liked it. There were a couple of good moments, and the battles were fun.

  • @alihasanabdullah7586
    @alihasanabdullah7586 4 роки тому +1

    Damn, this is the type of reviews I've been looking for

  • @Amandauniversehub
    @Amandauniversehub 4 роки тому +9

    I feel that I’m only persona 1 fan, or there’s many of my persona 1 people out there

  • @FlynnMegaTensei
    @FlynnMegaTensei 2 роки тому +2

    "It's the lack of saving you should be worried about"
    People that use save slots for emulator: You have no power here

  • @flashsaberf4622
    @flashsaberf4622 4 роки тому +6

    Kandori wasn't evil for the sake of evil he was nihilistic because of his own suicidal thoughts and projected it onto the rest of humanity so he could become a god and kill humanity then himself but almost pussied out until Nyarlathotep revealed to not be an actual persona and possessed him turning him into god Kandori.

  • @JetblackJay
    @JetblackJay 4 роки тому +29

    Persona1 has 2 versions Playstation and psp the psp version is better but the music sucks

    • @purplejinxer3478
      @purplejinxer3478 4 роки тому +22

      I was vibing with the school theme on PSP tho. The fighting music tho. UGGGH that loop was painful.

    • @loltoheaven777sreplaystora6
      @loltoheaven777sreplaystora6 4 роки тому +11

      @@purplejinxer3478 LIVED WITH BURIED MEMORY
      FEAR-RIDDEN SELF-CONCIOUSNESS
      I'M JUST L O N E P R A Y E R

    • @alvin5122
      @alvin5122 4 роки тому +12

      Lone prayer's good though.
      for the first 2 battles.

    • @purplejinxer3478
      @purplejinxer3478 4 роки тому +1

      @@loltoheaven777sreplaystora6 NOOO STOP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT AGAINNN

    • @kakugowaii5854
      @kakugowaii5854 4 роки тому +8

      Say what you want, Bloody Destiny is a fucking banger

  • @ebkits10
    @ebkits10 4 роки тому +9

    The first 3 games are my favorite despite their dated aesthetics and gameplay flaws. The older feel makes me feel happy, even if others are more swayed toward the modern feel.

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому

      Biggest flaws:
      1 = the random encounters
      2 = TOO easy
      3 = tartarus
      4 = basically scooby doo or jojo part 4
      5 = anime tropes

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +1

      too bad EP sucks

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +2

      @@davidpmendez4321
      1. I guess?
      2. Which P2?
      3. YES...
      4. Sorta, I guess? Doesn't make it a flaw per se.
      5. Lol most JRPGs have anime tropes bud..

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 роки тому

      @@GiordanDiodato
      1. I mean the encounter rate
      2. IS, cant play EP :^(
      3. Yes
      4. By this I mean it's that I cant take the game seriously even if it is one of the best
      5. I liked more the serious tone of the first 3 (and also persona 3), idk maybe I should just play the smt series for more serious tone
      I hope I don't upset people because of my experience with the games....

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      @@davidpmendez4321
      1. Encounter rate is about average for a PS1 RPG, unless you're talking about the PSP release, which actually has a lower encounter rate. Heck the NA PS1 version has a lower encounter rate than the JPN PS1 version.
      2. IS would be easy if it wasn't for its rather high encounter rate. At least you can save anywhere.
      3. We definitely agree. Though I find the biggest flaw to be the lack of save points
      4. I mean, 1 and 2 aren't any darker than P4 so...
      5. What I said in 4, though if you want something darker try Nocturne/Lucifer's Call.

  • @michaelshipp4982
    @michaelshipp4982 4 роки тому +10

    I'm glad you are covering the old persona games
    I think 1,2, and p5r are the best of the games but 1,2 got some things in it make be want to slam my head into a glass table (some things in p5r too lol)
    Overall good video looking forward to the rest stay safe

  • @JeronisLeror
    @JeronisLeror 3 роки тому +2

    Kandori gets more Characterization in the Reji route for the Sebec Quest

  • @HansAlRachid
    @HansAlRachid 4 роки тому +4

    Man, the Snow Queen quest is still so fascinating to me - two entirely different stories with completely different themes in one game. And it's so easily missable! I miss this era so much, content for its own sake, with confidence that interested players will ultimately find and enjoy it. Great shit. Fuck budget bloat.

  • @theadamsapple5909
    @theadamsapple5909 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid, I'm excited to see what else you have in store for this channel. You're one of my favorite game analysis channels. Keep up the great work!

  • @joripien
    @joripien 3 роки тому +3

    Kumi's story reminds me a lot of what Maruki was doing in P5R

  • @BHFFS
    @BHFFS 4 роки тому +2

    Man those dungeons remind me of the old maze screensaver from Windows 95.

  • @Auchaser643
    @Auchaser643 2 роки тому +4

    "nyx is a joke"
    Wipes party and manages to win only through a resistance he was unaware of lol

  • @vicneti
    @vicneti 4 роки тому +15

    I love this game a lot so it's good to see some content on it :D

    • @rffrice
      @rffrice 4 роки тому +9

      Your pfp is fucking art bro, best use of Naoya’s hair.

    • @DigiNiverg
      @DigiNiverg 4 роки тому +4

      SAME BRO

    • @sslugboy_64
      @sslugboy_64 4 роки тому +1

      Finally, someone who shares the same opinion

  • @IlIeven
    @IlIeven 4 роки тому +4

    Aaah, a nam upload

  • @horaciohernandez2850
    @horaciohernandez2850 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't remember about Setsuko but damn, Maki's almost identical to her in P2, it's pretty cool how she even gets her hair done like her mom.

  • @DoujinDude
    @DoujinDude 4 роки тому +4

    My one hang-up with the PSP version is that the new soundtrack by only Shoji Meguro feels a bit less fitting and "more anime" than the PS1 OST, which was a huge collaboration between multiple composers from Atlus. As a result they composed songs they each were comfortable with, and the soundfonts used all across the game vary in such great way to give a weird or comfortable vibe to the areas and scenes. Deva Yuga is the PRIME example I mention every time, the original is so fucking surreal and cerebreal with the weird speaking voices across the left and right speakers of your headphones. The PSP version is just an acoustic guitar over what feels like a hip hop beat, still a fine song but wildly different from the originally intended vibe.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +2

      still better than the 10 fps overworld in the PS1 version lol

    • @TheEmperorRaidou
      @TheEmperorRaidou 3 роки тому +3

      @@GiordanDiodato not really

  • @wahmaster2788
    @wahmaster2788 3 роки тому +1

    Eyy, another great small youtuber! I am just now playing persona 5 for the first time (never played the others) I never had a ps4 or ps3 but I'm playing it on my ps5

  • @drowzee6076
    @drowzee6076 4 роки тому +5

    I love this game so much!!! No one should skip it it’s such a good experience

  • @Diego35HD
    @Diego35HD 4 роки тому +3

    I love P1 honestly, once I got past the outdated gameplay the story is pretty solid and engaging, currently starting a SQQ playthrough.

  • @doodoodaadoo1
    @doodoodaadoo1 4 роки тому +8

    I never really gave the idea of Persona 1 much thought. I guess theres a reason its the most SMT like Persona Game for a reason. Great Video Btw

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому +2

      in terms of difficulty, maybe
      in terms of atmosphere... not really

  • @normnavx
    @normnavx 2 роки тому +1

    I might be miss remembering but I recall Renji gives The main antagonist more backround.

  • @aryman6589
    @aryman6589 4 роки тому +7

    I hope you criticise Persona 5 for its one dimensional villains and basic writing too like this whenever that analysis comes out. Eager for Persona 2 analysis!

    • @sergiosalazar8702
      @sergiosalazar8702 3 роки тому +1

      They kinda didn’t care about most of the villains bc they don’t care, it’s about the PTs
      Kaneshiro and Okumura are trash, but bc The game by design didn’t feel the need to build something up. The focus of the game isn’t having a super complex history, it’s about how the PTs tackle their problems and Japan’s cultural issues.

  • @rossedwardmiller
    @rossedwardmiller 3 роки тому +1

    The coolest thing about p1 is that the velvet room is a clearly just a color swap of the red room of the black lodge.

  • @xstationo11
    @xstationo11 4 роки тому +9

    Wish you would have included the manga adaptation.

  • @kota7341
    @kota7341 4 роки тому +3

    The first game gets no attention I decided to pick it one day and never regreted it, it isnt as good as 2 or three but was still a great experience

  • @braddtheodd3390
    @braddtheodd3390 4 роки тому +5

    Philemon doesn't talk to just Naoya. Just thought I should point that out. Philemon talks to all of them.

  • @horaciohernandez2850
    @horaciohernandez2850 3 роки тому +1

    A fandom theory that goes around regarding the ability to use multiple Personae is that P1 (and P2) characters were granted Persona powers by Philemon directly, while the P3-5 characters got theirs with Research/contact with their Shadow/contact with the Metaverse.

  • @0w0ba-ding7
    @0w0ba-ding7 4 роки тому +25

    Revelations Persona: (Has Nyx, Thanatos, and Tartarus)
    Fans: Could We get a Persona 1 Remake Atlus? Please?
    ATLUS: You have Persona 3.
    (Side Note: No wonder ATLUS thinks P3 is the first Persona game. The used some of the concepts and ideas🤣 at least we have the P5 DLC for P1)

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      they don't remake Persona 1 and 2 without Okada involved in the project, as he was the producer for the PSP versions.

    • @flashsaberf4622
      @flashsaberf4622 4 роки тому

      @@GiordanDiodato He wasn't the producer.,He had no involvement with the psp versions whatsoever. Also ATLUS added P1 and P2 full HD remakes as options to the Japanese surveys shortly after Hashino left Persona.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 роки тому

      @@flashsaberf4622 Except he was producer. Try again, kiddo

  • @azumarrillxl
    @azumarrillxl 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Nam! I always brushed off persona 1, but now i think i gotta at least play it.

  • @vienna5526
    @vienna5526 4 роки тому +32

    Finally more people talking about the first Persona. The manga is really great, but the game is just meh.

    • @robinisdead8581
      @robinisdead8581 4 роки тому +12

      Actually the game was kinda great don't down on me like that

    • @vienna5526
      @vienna5526 4 роки тому +10

      @@robinisdead8581 The gameplay just killed it for me. I still played the whole SEBEC route, and neither the story really clicked. The manga actually filled some plotholes and made everything better

    • @robinisdead8581
      @robinisdead8581 4 роки тому +4

      @@vienna5526 remember it's a opinion

    • @Silverman160Zero
      @Silverman160Zero 4 роки тому +19

      I’ll side with Antonio here. The manga was really good and helped flesh out the characters, especially Nayoa and Kandori.

    • @saucymongoose7246
      @saucymongoose7246 4 роки тому

      Yeah the manga is pretty dope

  • @SunderMun
    @SunderMun 4 роки тому +1

    I believe it's just because they haven't had the opportunity to play it; my first Persona game I played only this year because I never had access to the previous games, but P4G went onto Steam and I finally got to play it and I've fallen in love with it.