Keir Starmer exposes bizarre changes to Rwanda plan at PMQs
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2023
- Not only has it cost hundreds of millions to sort a plan to send just 100 people to Rwanda (if it's deemed legal), the Rwandans can now send their own refugees to the UK as well. #pmqs
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It is embarrassing seeing people in their 40s, 50s and 60s acting like complete children.
That's our Playhouse of Commons!
It would be bad enough in times where people were thriving, but when the country is in a complete mess, nothing functions as it should and people are genuinely struggling. It just makes them all look totally detached from the reality that most of us face on a daily basis. I can only watch a few seconds of it, it just gets on my nerves how divorced from the UK that normal people now have to live in they all are.
It's even worse - we literally pay them for this.
What’s embarrassing is that they are paid collectively billions a year to take the piss out of you and me.
@@MichaelSmith-ns8owAnd 1500 a week in expenses. No wonder the country is on its knees.
So, if I hear this correctly, we can send 100 people to Rwanda, but have to take refugees from there in return. We have to take back anyone who goes to Rwanda and commits a crime. And we have to pay for the refugees in Rwanda for 5 years. And still no explanation how this in any way 'stops the boats'?
Refugees from rwanda have already been coming here for years FACT it doesn’t stop the boats this is another fascist distraction DUH
Wait so if anyone wants to come back they just have to commit a crime?
So we are sending lawful refugees there xD It was never meant to stop the boats... it was meant to be a reactionary ploy... to show strength by SENDING THEM TO RWANDA... when it literally is a lie...
Yep that's about right.
@theythinkimmadyouknow
Good luck even getting one person out there....
Rwanda has to approve EVERY transfer from UK;
PART 2 - RELOCATION ARRANGEMENTS
ARTICLE 4 Relocation arrangements
2. All transfer requests by the United Kingdom shall require approval by Rwanda prior to any relocation.
Then Article 5.5 states Rwanda doesnt have to take any refugees at all....
5. Nothing in this Agreement obliges Rwanda to approve the transfer of a Relocated Individual.
Please note the word "Agreement" as it means the ENTIRE TREATY and Appendixes!
Taking back control??
HAHAHAHAAAAAA
The contempt that the Tories have for the UK public is staggering
Why is Keir gaining weight? If you can't take the heat.......
Really? By trying to tackle the invaders against treacherous courts?
It is almost as bad as the flip flop knee bending ,jump on any bandwagon going ,E U loving Starmer of the labour party, better known as the gutless wonder .whatever happened to the working man or woman' s party? Oh yes, I forget The warmongering Tony Blair became P M. He has never been held accountable for the war crimes he committed while in charge .
@@TonyFisherPuzzles go to Ukraine. Go see what real invasions look like, you mewling quim.
Stop with the hyperbolic, white fragility. No one is invading. People MIGRATE to more hospitable environments, it's what we do. If Britain didn't INVADE most of the tropical world and STEAL resources in order to make this shit hole even worth travelling to, not a single one of them would come here.
Immigrants do not come to Britain for the food, or the company of you peasants. They come for the money.
A great deal of which was generated via INVASION of the very people that now want to migrate here.
@@TonyFisherPuzzles
You don't remember your own history, do you? Your ancestors were illegal immigrants. All Anglo-Saxon mongrels are descended from REAL INVADERS. Using murder, rape, stealing, dispossession, they slaughtered tens of thousands of the indigenous peoples, the CELTS, just to steal land they could live on, while not being killed back in Bavaria and Saxony. Plus, we mustn't forget the Jutes, from Jutland in Denmark. And the Scandinavians, and the Normans, and Das Fuhrage's Huguenots.
YOU are the REAL INVADERS. Go back where you came from.
I will never understand why politicians behave like this in parliament. Can you imagine yourself having a discussion and everyone around you acting like 5 year olds.
The most upsetting thing is that we actually pay their salaries.
Try being from Wales, Scotland or the part of Ireland still within the UK. This is the clown show that decides things for them. Even worse, they need to go cap in hand to these useless twats. A party could win every seat in all three, and still only have around a 3rd of the seats England has. A majority in England, wrecks two other countries, and part of Ireland.
Yes, but if Labour formed a government opposing Lib/Dems/SNP Coalition, then you'd have two working parties who have answers for each other in a polite and civilised manner, and they'd be able to work out what to do for the best, and for Great Britain and Great Britain alone. P.S. We may not even need a dictatorship (where the people need to be told how to earn money etc), or an Elvis Presley rep, any more!
That deputy speaker is even worse than the speaker
Is that possible ?
The Tories record in government is simply appalling, the worst government this country has had to endure in decades
Or perhaps ever.....
@@joeoak8181 Yep
Lord David 🤔🙄 I agree my party is absolutely non UK liking ever 😠..stuff the lot of you morons ,,,,,,,,
Yet when David Cameron was voted in people said the same thing about labour , both parties are equally evil and under starmer nothing will change , difference would be starmer would do everything evil with a smile on his face
EVER
Sunak is about as funny as terminal cancer. These jokes at the end of the day is at our expense - the taxpayer, shoddy quips and point scoring don't improve the quality of our lives.
General election now.
Who ever gets elected will be just as bad.All politicians are cut from the same cloth.Its just all one big pantomime to them.
He just there to play PM, private jet, build up his own wealth. Then when they lose the next election, he leaves for the US on his green card
He’s enough to give a aspro a headache .
No one voted for Sunak . The cons will regret what they have done to people, when you look at the COVID lockdown,the PPI , the benefit people . The food prices . Stuffing their own pocket with bogus expenses . The guys are incompetent idiots.
If children made noise like this in an English school, they would be sent out of the room. Baffling how it's allowed to carry on in this way, can we not choose to change how member of Parliament act and remove them from the house if they cannot abide by these simple rules?
They should introduce a fine for their wages for the week every time the speaker has to interrupt the house due to MPs misbehaving. I guarantee this will make them all shut up instantly when their wages will be on the line.
You can't call out blatant liars but can behave like yobs.
With Hoyle running things ?
Well, well, well, the Tories have a problem on an unimaginable scale, their smoke & mirrors deception of the paying public has even made Kier Starter begin to look credible even to me, boot him out & replace him with a real Tory in place of a plastic one, give yourselves half a chance.
100%, they act like it's a football match where they're all drunk and it's meant to be the workplace. I also find all the jokey things cringe; sometimes it's OK but not consistently. It's embarrassing 😳 The backbenchers in tories are completely unmanageable and they ignore the speaker when she tries to control it.
I think he’s missed the point of Prime Minister’s questions you’re meant to answer questions, not ask them.
Exactly just throwing cocky remarks.
Sir Lindsay has admonished the PM on numerous occasions: "This is PMQs, not questions to the opposition leader."
Not when the question are coming from a complete idiot
@@michaelmeyer2725Yet he keeps at it and the speakers, like this one, are so fucking inept and pointless that they don’t usually bother to say anything. They just sit there like soggy fannies. It’s an absolute farce.
He’s practicing for after the general election
With all the problems this country is facing right now; Energy Costs, NHS waiting Lists, Difficulty in getting GP, Hospital and Dental appointments, Rising Crime Rates, Physically crumbling schools, hospitals and other public buildings, Doctors and rail worker strikes, shortage of labour in the hospitality, transport, health care and education sectors, Cost of Living etc. Why does this Government concentrate ONLY on 'The Boats' and Ruanda? I can assure them that these matters are a long way down my list of priorities.
To distract everybody from the things you have listed above.
because it is trying to appeal to certain people who vote for them there not bothered about the things you have mentioned because most of the people who vote tory can afford all them things afford there bills afford there food live on nice estates where its low in crime if need a doctor go private
It's election year (almost) and they are concentrating on policies that they think will win them votes. That is what 2024 will all be about, and it will see the rich and poor divide widen, because they will be doing lots of favours to their donators and rich friends, and those things you mentioned will just get worse.
spot on
How else do they motivate their base comprised entirely of racists to vote for them?
Thanks to the Tories, we pay over £1 MILLION FOR EACH migrant sent to Rwanda.
We still don't send any.
And if we ever send them, Rwanda can keep the good ones and send back the criminals to UK.
The criminals ARE ALREADY HERE................They are known as MP's & ministers.
More or less. It's a win-win for Rwanda.
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 could we get the Rwandan negotiators to migrate to UK?
@@dickturpine2250 The immigrants will introduce some much needed intelligence into Britain. They can probably spell too.
So, instead of employing more people to deal with the backlogs, saving money from hotel accommodation and other costs, he would rather fly them over to Rwanda and pay for their upkeep for five years! This government truly is the government of waste. They would rather appear to be doing radical things than doing the respectful and right thing which is coming up with a cost effective plan that suites the UK and immigrants.
Correction. We need a plan that suits THE UK! We owe these interlopers NOTHING!
@@Ken-yf8zl You're right, we do owe them nothing. However having the empathy to provide adequate means for those who need asylum to claim it separates us from the savages of the world. The globe has long been globalized and our comfortable lives in "THE UK" require the help of the rest of the world.
So correction. You're an unsympathetic person who doesn't understand squat about the world.
All hotels housing asylum seekers are run by TORY DONORS. Makes sense now.
They all find it so amusing as our country descends into the mire.
No the Tories find it all amusing. Spending loads of money but nothing really resolved.
Why are we being told here that legal migrants will be reduced by stopping ‘the boats’? Legals come by plane and train.
...and private yacht
They are reducing the number of "legal" migrants because they can but it has nothing to do with reducing the boats, which they can't.
@@LowPlainsDrifter60 listen from 2:00 onwards.
And study or work.
😂they are backwards
This level of drunken incompetence is astounding.
@Godlike-87 - who is incompetent? Starmer did a superb job imo.
James “not-so” Cleverly mouthing “is that a question” right before kier asks how do you lose 17,000 people is priceless
British parlament looks like a circus. A bunch of old men competing on who told the slickest most burning joke while others shout on the background like they are watching a boxing match.
"How do you lose 17000 people?"
Have they tried down the back of the sofa?
This seems absurd. Why would it be logical to have an agreement that limits our ability to send only 100 people to Rwanda while obligating us to accept refugees from there in return.
because thats the minimum required by law, its all a game and both these sides are evil
Cos like all the other tory scams they just want a big pile of cash to skim of the top. They are corrupt and belong in jail
My favourite thing about it all is that all they need to is buy a camera to get sent back it's illegal to take to take pictures of government buildings in Rwanda.
"Weve outlined plans to cut LEGAL migration by £300".... what the hell does that mean??
It’s means you can buy a pair of trainers 👟 😂
It's meaningless, but £300 is a lot of money to the average plebian so it sounds good right? Just performative right-wing populist rhetoric.
Nothing.
Sunak is encouraged by his failure of a government to think he is actually doing a good job. Such a break from reality is costing the country both money and credibilty
The UK is bankrupt on both accounts.
Parliament is like a punch and judy show we never asked for. When are we going to reform parliament so it actually works and works for us?
The same time they reform the US Congress to do the same thing.
Bro nothings ever gonna change best u can do is just ignore the punch and judy show and hope to not reincarnate back here lol
@@miniramptricks1986 Fuck that, time for revolution then lol.
Sunak pretending to read now every time Starmer speaks is just beyond pathetic. I’m not a Starmer fan but his roasting of Sunak is getting better every week.
I agree - it's rude and arrogant. Mind you, Tories gotta Tory...
Fighting it in the courts will have cost a fortune!
And are they seriously trying to fight Starmer on a legal issue?! lol
£3m so far in court costs
Hold it! Britain has already given £140 million to Rwanda and only 100 can go. Thats £1,400,000 for every person.As a pensioner get me a fecking seat on that plane!
I can't wait to vote sunak out
The fact is Tories don't want the boats to stop because as long as they keep coming the tories can keep pointing at them saying "look at the boats!"
And housing them in hotels owned by Tory donors.
Sunak has lost the plot. He should resign or call the general election. The latter will be more respectful way to be ousted.
He never had the plot
Cleverley looks like he wants to be at the nearest bar.😂
The only thing Cleaverly and Sunak has demonstrated is how to be a doormat.
So, according to Boris Johnson its perfectly normal to mitigate one of the most serious public health emergencies in living memory by surrounding yourself with senior officials, civil servants and cabinet ministers who all blame each other for doing a lousy job.
makes me sick he came from my home......boris and rishi should be in prison
By £300? He can't stop thinking about money. 😂
The Rwanda deal is as good as the French deal, where we pay them to do nothing 😂
He didn't answer a single question all they do is throw cocky remarks around.
£140 million spent on this stupid idea already with more to spent. How many doctors and nurses could we have trained with that money?
This government is just about grabbing headlines and not actually doing anything for the people of the UK
Rishi pictured desperately there reading the notes for the first time.
Oh, shit, can we only send 100 people? Where does it say that, I only read the title.
To put this into context, even if this does go through which it's not clear it will. It will have costed roughly 300,000,000 pounds, and the cost of an individual migrant will be 160,000 not accounting for the 4 years and there is a cap of 100 migrants. So 3,160,000GB per person for a gimmicky scheme which means nothing.
It's not funny Sunak, you have no common sense, decency, or integrity and you have no respect from me.
So, you’re a refugee and you’ve been deported to Rwanda. First thing you do when you get there is put a brick through a window, get sent straight back. This is the most smooth brain policy I’ve ever seen.
In all my 86 years life, I can never remember a Government so rotten as this one!
Maybe I’ve not watched PMQs in a while but Starmer is on fire here, I swear he’s starting to actually grow a personality
No
he is right to critique it internallly: the plan itself doesnt achieve its own aims.
Tony Blair is in his corner now.
VOTE REFORM VOTE REFORM 🏴 🇬🇧 🗳 👍
Having an asylum claim processing facility in France as suggested by the French back in 2021 would of allowed us to send anyone coming over in small boat back.
I wonder why we didn't do it ?
Because the Tories don't want to solve the problem. They just want to create culture wars.
Because the Tories don't want the boats to stop. It's a useful distraction from their incompetence every time an election comes around.
RS is just filling his and his mate's boots until the bitter end that they all know is coming.
It’s another stitch up for the British taxpayers
I bet the other countries that turned down the deal Rwanda is getting must be kicking themselves over missing out on this free money
They are all laughing, but it's no joke to me, wasting millions of tax payers money
Just let this sink in Sunak is now more unpopular than Truss....again, more unpopular than Truss...it's a race to the bottom for the Tories...election NOW!
I was told today that the land used in Rwanda for housing immigrants is owned by Sunaks father in law! Alledgedly I do hope this isn’t true
I've fact-checked this as much as I can, and it would appear that it isn't true. Sunak's in-law's company is Infosys, and although they do have a number of government contracts (dodgy in itself) it is not registered in Rwanda and has no contracts to do with immigration. Mind you, more stink does often come to light given time...
They own mining operations out there funnily enough .. wonder where the labourers are going to come from... 🧐
@@EdwardOberon Interesting. What's the source for this information?
Don’t forget Modhi outsourcing ..this is a coordinated Indian effort…! I
And this is the party of common sense, £140 million, on nothing 17000 people missing, raise NI 12p cut 2p in budget and cannot keep quiet while people are talking.
Offshore immigration processing centre , we need an offshore House of Commons - as far offshore and far away as possible
Why abandon democracy now?Didn't Hitler try and offer you a similar package?
I doubt the 17,000 missing have decided to go to Rwanda.😂😂
When you think about it, we allow a room of hundreds of people to just shout at each other to decide the future.
What’re we doing?
So what is this we have to paye for the imagrants to go to Rowanda paye for there accommodation for five years except more imagrants from Rowanda in return. why has Rishi opened a business in Rowanda its an absolute discrace.
Whether you're on the the left, in the centre or on the right, surely we can all agree that the time, effort and money the government have wasted on signing an agreement that MIGHT allow us to send 100 refugees to another country (not to mention the fact that they'll be sending people back anyway) is a complete and utter waste? I just don't understand how anyone can defend this.
Bonkers! We need a coherent and effective policy...
Not more half truths and hustlers making big money from these weird schemes.
This is why the country is in an absolute mess. Even school kids have more meaningful debates.
They treat their job like its a game, all that money, what a waste. Shocking in a way, then again just watch that look how they behave and its no surprise, it all needs to be reformed start again.
Wouldnt it be quicker for the PM to just say "I cant answer the question"? I dont think anyone is surprised he can't follow the question
What a load of bollocks to all of them
It's a deterrent muppet and will be part of several deals.
While they speak of migration the country is falling apart,
when is Keir Stammer going to do his job and address real problems and offer a real change?
As a junior doctor having to strike I'm not paid the same wage a prete a manger barrister, it's galling that the govt is pouring millions of pounds into this failed scheme but claiming there isn't money to settle the industrial action dispute. We need a GE asap!
At a cost of £300+ million, those are very expensive first class tickets . Do they each get a mansion built for the price?
So nice to see our children playing together
There isn’t a plan!!!!😂😂😂
An absolute disgrace the way the incompetent so called unelected people act on our behalf. My 3 year old nephew has got more sense than this lot
This circus is beamed round the world. What a disgrace.
The absolute waste of public money is inexcusable
Madame Deputy Speaker is great!
So they are only sending 100 to Rwanda? so far it's cost £140,000,000 and a further cost of up to £120,000 to send each out plus £15,000,000 is being allocated to support the changes required, so the total cost of sending 100 out is going to be £282,000,000 is a staggering £2,820,000 each now that's cost-effective by their standards of spending as to spend close to £18,000,000,000 on the un-workable track and trace.
I thought it was more like 37 bn. that was thrown away on Track & Trace
@@jananders1351 well that's disgusting
@@jananders1351think it was £27 billion
Sounds like a typical Tory get-rich-quick scheme. No doubt some donor, or relative/friend of Sunak's wife will be loaning the planes at a "highly competitive" price....
Is this what the university’s spit out ? An absolute joke
Yeah, in fact “universities” allow students who can spell. Unlike yourself 😅
@@simonowen very observant of you I agree I didn’t do very well at school it’s really affected my bank balance 😎
@@hbpw857 so fucking what 🤣
@@simonowen exactly you really think I gaf you must live a sad life
😂 I love Rwanda 🇷🇼 🇵🇸✌🏽
The house and everyone in it is a total disgrace
I dunno, the cleaners and support staff are likely ok.
Grow up
@@milsub59 lol
@@milsub59
Maybe you should
I’m glad there all laughing!
Because it it’s all a matter of time before it boils over
Rishi is living on a different planet he keeps going on about labour borrowing 28 billion which is less than what the tories have projected they have to borrow for the next 5 years
British comedy at its finest.
UK ID Cards. ID check for bank accounts. Correct employment contracts. Correct rental contracts. Then maybe they'd stop crossing the Channel from France, who has these checks.
Lol you don't have a clue.
This was created by brexiteers, but they can't cope with that fact so they are desperate to propose nonsensical 'solutions' to avoid accepting the blame.
It's hard to believe the numbers we are hearing. £159 million pounds to get 100 people out of the country! If they give me £1.5 million I will FO to any country they like
Watching James Cleverley's expression during the Rwanda treaty discussion, it has become obvious that his constant use of the word "sh*t" is because he is suffering from constipation
From the taxpayers:
“So we paying for a problem we did not create” ????
Are you telling me Rwanda doesn't like being used as a British proxy/colonial encampment? Shocking.
100 is only £2.4 million per asylum seeker. Bargain! The tax payers in the UK need to wake up to these clowns.
That baying mob is tiresome
I read the the original documents on the Government Website months ago. The majority of the points raised are in the original document. The question has to be, why has no MP on either side of the House, raised questions about the Rwanda policies before now?? More smoke and mirrors from both main parties methinks.
No one in the uk has any issue with legal migration, the people that come over here and work there a$$ off for us is amazing
How do you loose 70,000 people damn that’s hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The guffaws n posho ‘who are ya’s are just embarrassing. We need to modernise the way our political system communicates coz this public school debate team nonsense is truly tragic, even when my personal side of the room is ‘winning’
Sunak is truly dreadful and awfully slippery, he makes up his own questions. And stll seems to think that it's really "Leader of The Opposition Question Time".
To be fair I don't remember a Tory PM who did answer questions.
So the agreement means we pay Rwanda a few millions and in exchange must accept their economic migrants
The speaker of the house does sweet fa don't they. "Oh you little naughty tories, please calm down."
Not a single question has ever been answered in prime minister’s questions..fact
I don't know why he didn't hammer away at the point that this "scheme" is going to cost over £1 million per deportee.
fishticuffs and spine required in that F........PLAYGROUND
So as I understand it:-
The threat of being sent to Rwanda was meant to scare migrants into not coming here. However if Rwanda is not safe, the plan is both illegal and immoral. So the new Rwanda deal makes the plan safe, thus loosing the threat value!
However sending only 100 out of all those thousands arriving would anyway have only a minimum threat value, even if migrants could somehow be made aware of the threat!
The above makes no sense and so the whole reason for spending at least £140M of our tax money can only be to save face following a stupid mistake!
They love spending out money in a fashion that is wasteful in an effort to appear tough and capable.
The original deal was to sendf 200 immigrants a year over a 5 year period (1000 in all) So if you were an immigrant, you'd have more than a 99% chance of not being sent to Rwanda. Of course it isn't a deterent., However, looking tough to the target voters is the real aim.
And if I misbehave in Rwanda, presumably i get sent back to the UK? so i literally cannot lose. Im 99.9% sure ill still be in the UK anyway, if im one of the hundred that goes to Rwanda im paid for to be in Rwanda, and I could come back anyway?
@@jamesdenny5078 And if your refugee claim is denied by the Rwandan authorities, you will be sent back to blighty too.
I wonder what dodgy, under-the-counter dealings went on to select Rwanda in the first place. This country was not even one of former British influence.
Braverman has had business dealings there for years, much of it with the Rwanda Government. Just saying...
The UK has paid how much to Rwanda ffs!🤔🤬🤔🤬
well done keir.👏👏👏👏👏
That is not a good plan. What were they thinking?