Live Stream on X32 with Separate Mix on an AUX BUS | How To Setup Start To Finish
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2020
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Please make sure you save your scene on the console BEFORE you update firmware. Your current settings per channel will be cleared. You can reload your scene after update, but make sure to save your scene before updating.
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In this video I dive into setting up your live stream through an AUX BUS to get a designated mix for your Live Stream on your Behringer X32 console. This has benefits of a specific mix, but also effects, EQ, Compression and limiting can all be specified to your Live Stream. If you find this video helpful give a LIKE on the video and if you have any comments of questions leave them below.
*** NOTE ***
Please make sure you save your scene on the console BEFORE you update firmware. Your current settings per channel will be cleared. You can reload your scene after update, but make sure to save your scene before updating.
You explain all this stuff really clearly. You and Drew are all we need! 😂
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment of being routed with Drew. Let me know if you have any questions.
You know, it's not the knowledge you give out, plenty can do that, but it's the way you impart the knowledge. So many people know their stuff but can hardly put 2 words together.
You and Drew are masters at that. I use Cubase and Dom Segalas and Chris Selim are the masters of explaining that.
Carry on.
I really want to thank you from bottom of heart. You have fix most of my issue with two video i was having issue with sending out audio from X 32 Rack audio interface. so i switch over to my steinberg UR 22 MKII usb audio interface with XLR cable with one of the output of X32 rack. and with your video the x 32 audio interface is working
thank you
This is pure GOLD !!! So happy I found your channel as I also mix for our church and my home studio. Subbed and Liked !!!!
I’m glad you are finding value. Here is a other video that expands on this AUX Bus setup with the livestream setup I use. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
This is leaps and bounds definitely the way to go for houses of worship with this desk or similar. A little more work for the engineer but much more satisfying. Also another great example of why a real engineer needs to be hired as opposed to a volunteer who is not an engineer by trade.
Agreed. Here is another video that walks through a complete setup using an AUX Bus for your stream. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
OMG BRO THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I´m from Panamá and we have an x32 at church and your videos have been a HUGE blessing!!
Thanks for the encouragement.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I just installed an M32R Live in to our church and was looking to set up a seperate mix for our live stream. I have the in house sounding great, now I need to get the live stream audio to the same level. Coming from an analogue board I was limited to one mix (the 2 AUX sends were already used for our monitor mixes) so once people started coming back in house I've been struggling with trying to get some sort of balance. With the new hardware and this channel I've learned a lot! Thank you!
That’s awesome. Thanks for the encouragement. The switch to digital will open up so many possibilities.
Best explanation I have found so far on setting a feed for livestream independent from in-house. Thanks!! Job well done.
Thanks for the encouragement. Here is a more in-depth walk into my setup and how I built the inner workings of our live stream. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
@@AllamHouse Thanks! Your channel is excellent. I just subscribed. May God continue to use you and bless you.
Thanks for blessing so many Behringer X32 and Midas M32 users in the Worship environment. For the Stream Mix is also good to add a couple of audience mics to capture the congregation's reaction to their experience. We are serving our Lord in Puerto Rico and send our love to y'all.
Yes, room mics do make a big difference. We (unfortunately) don’t have the ability to place mics in our space since we setup/teardown every week. I wish I could do it, but for now I get to use the reverbs.
This is a link to the series I’ve been doing about my existing livestream scene. ua-cam.com/video/amxVZQ2NaF4/v-deo.html
I'm going to share this with anyone and everyone because it's the clearest explanation on using a digital board to create a mix just for the live stream. Thanks!
Thanks for the encouragement. If you want to step this to the next level, this video here runs through an in-depth approach to the MixBUS setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thank you for posting this video. it does help out a lot in terms of how to setup a proper separate mix for streaming and sending to the USB card out.
If you want to refine the setup even more, this video walks you through from top to bottom. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hi the nail on the head! We just started going back to church, 3rd week coming up. Not every one likes the new “normal”, so they want use to continue placing the service online, but now we are trying to do streaming. New territory for us Neophytes. So far we’ve been using the mic on the camera, but it’s not the best sound. In the past we’ve tried to feed our house mix in to the camera, but they said the vocals were terrible, off pitch and too loud... Your explanation of having a separate mix for the streaming made sense. We’ll give it a try. Thanks
Rocky Starland
South Haven First Baptist Church, Michigan
Here is the solution I am using right now as we start back this week. It allows for only one sound engineer to mix, but you get a good mix for both the house and the stream. Check it out and see which one is the best option for you.
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
been looking for a video to add fx on a bus on x32 and your video was the only one that i could understand without complications! great tips and awesome and short video
Thats awesome, thanks for the encouragement. I do have a sister video that goes with this setup which discusses in more detail how I use this setup in my church and how I built my scene from the ground up. You can find that video here in case it might be helpful and offer some additional tips. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Exactly 💯
Great video, clear and simply well explained. Thanks for making this!
Thanks for the encouragement. I’m glad you found the video helpful.
Thank you so much, this was a great video and easy to understand and to help with our stream mix.
I’m glad this was helpful. This is the current setup I use at my church and we really enjoy the flexibility it offers. Here is a video that goes more in-depth on how to customize this mix now that you have the basic routing setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
I like that setup! Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much Sir. Your videos are very helpful.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you so much for this tutorial, i am currently using matrix for stream but after this video, i am going to change to a Mix Bus
That’s great. If you want to go a step further on your MixBUS stream, here is a video that is an in-depth look at my setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thanks Allan I appreciate all your explanation
Thanks for the comment. Let me know if you have any questions.
Epic!!!!! Thank you for making that so simple!!!
This is exactly what I was looking for!! Thank you!
That’s great. This video will get you started and your routing can be covered. If you want to refine this setup here is another video that walks through a full setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.htmlsi=Vjmk5BET4qUNg3oP
Great video, exactly what I needed! Thank you
I’m glad you found the video helpful. Now that you have the routing you might be interested in this video that talks about refining the live stream mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thank you for explaining how to send my Stream. God bless you, sir great explanation!!!
I’m glad you found the video helpful. Now that you have the routing you might be interested in this video that talks about refining the live stream mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Another useful video, thanks.
Thanks for the encouragement.
superb bro! got this from the link you sent! thanks a lot! you really helped out!
I’m glad it was helpful. Let me know if you have other questions.
Thank you so much man! It worked and it's awesome!
I'm glad it helped and thanks for the encouragement. Here is another video that might help you take your AUX mix to the next level. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Awesome, Thank you so much. Just what I needed. I will try this tomorrow at church.
I was able to follow all the steps. But I ran into an issue. When I press send on fader all the faders on the left hand side go down. I then increase and decrease the volume of one of the channels but it does not change. Meaning that I don’t have individual volume control of each fader. I do have a global control on the linked bus fader on the right hand side. I would like to have individual volume control of all the instruments. Can you help me find out why there is no volume change on the faders?
Start by checking that your selected AUX Bus is set to Post-Fader and nor Pre-fader.
really excellent explanation!
Thanks for the encouragement. If you are running a a MixBUS for a broadcast mix, you might find this video helpful for refining the mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Very helpful. Thanks. The X32/M32 is so flexible but a little confusing.
It does have a bunch of features, but with a little education and practice, it’s a very usable console.
Thanks for posting!!
This. Idea here is the next step to enhance your mix once you’ve setup the Aux Bus for streaming. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thanks, I needed this so bad!!!
I'm glad you found this video helpful. Now that you have the basic concept laid out, it might be good to check out this video that walks through refining your mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
@@AllamHouse if I share my link, would you mind analyzing my mix?
Perfect explanation, thanks for sharing this. I kind of want to head to the church now to set it up :-)
Thanks for the encouragement. If you want to further refine your mix, check out this video for a full step-by-step walk through. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Set it up this weekend. Worked super well! The funny thing is I had it kind of going that way already I just over complicated it.
One more question. Have you played with a Dante card for the x32 yet?
I have not yet played with the Dante card on a personal level. I've mixed at some locations that have it setup, but I have not spent time with it on my own.
This is great! thanks for sharing.
Here is another video that discusses my setup and some tips to refine your stream mix
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
This was soooooooooooooooooo helpful! Thank you!
Thanks for the encouragement.
@@AllamHouse Dave - At about 10:25 in the video, the faders would need to be set to Post Fader, since the faders do need to control the mix. (It is different than sending all channels to a DAW.) I was able to use a couple of your videos, pause them as needed, and go step-by-step through setting up the live stream mix. Awesome explanation. I even inserted the limiter, which I had not been using.
Yeah, this video was actually out out when most people had no live attendance due to Covid so this was a quick way to get a mix going to the stream. Since then people now are working around in person and stream which is most beneficial to run a post-fader mix as you mentioned. I actually have a video that walks through the setup my church uses currently. It can be found here:
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
@@AllamHouse At about 12:02, you *do* mention it can be changed to post-fader, so you *did* cover it. I just missed that comment the first time around.
@@AllamHouse Yes, I actually used that video, too, to help me set things up. It was very, very helpful. I basically watched that video and paused the video often, followed directions, then watched a few more seconds, etc., all while standing right at the x32 at the church. I never would have figured it out without the video! Thank you so much. Our live stream audio is awesome now!
Great video, thanks
I’m glad it was helpful. If you are building a live stream mix you might find this video helpful as well. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
WOW! You’ve got mad skills!!!😀 I’m new to use of a digital router. The digital routing is pretty phenomenal. Thanks for putting this together! I presume those effects you dialed are already on input bank/layer 4, or did you have to assign them? Thank God for you!
Thanks for the encouragement. The board does have preset FX racks, but you can select from a variety of effects to put into each rack to suit your needs. This video here is the next step to the one you have watched and it walks through an entire board setup that I use for mixing in my church right now. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
This was super helpful.
Thanks for the encouragement. You might check out this video to get thoughts on how to refine/enhance your mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thank you very much!!!
If you want to really dial in your mix, check out this video which is the next step. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
thank you
The best explanation I've seen yet. We have an X32 Compact in our church. The guy that engineered the steam to facebook is no longer in the church and didn't tell anyone how he engineered the feed and he was having to adjust the mix before every church service. Since he left, the mix is dreadful. I have experience as a sound engineer but I am more old school and haven't had time to get into the digital world. I find the whole "page-opening" to get from one place to the next, terribly confusing of course. I like having the entire console and controls laid out so I can see everything. Well, with this compact, that's just not going to happen and I understand that. I watched your video and it was helpful but I'll need to go through it several times to change my way of thinking through the digital console. I appreciate your explanation but sure wish I had someone right there with me to walk me through the process. That's not possible so I'll watch your video at the church while working with the console to see if I can locate how the last guy engineered the sends to create the stereo mix and send that signal to the PC for facebook streaming.
Thanks for the encouragement. Getting comfortable with a console isn’t always the easiest, especially when you are trying to figure out a previous persons setup. It never hurts to save the setup to a new scene and then you can begin making changes in your non-service times until you get everything nailed down. You can just reload your previous scene for service times. Here are two things for you.
1) this video is a full walk through of my setup and you might find it beneficial in creating your new scene. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
2) I do offer remote consultation which can provide a “person along with you” to help along the way and figure out what the previous person setup. If you want to go that route you can go to my website and fill out the contact card and we can start a conversation outside of UA-cam. sound.AllamHouse.com
@@AllamHouse - I was able to follow your video and easily found the 2-Buses used by the previous guy and was able to adjust the Live Stream Mix. I was happy to see that it was set up as you described on your video (Independent from House Sound Mix) so we'll see how my adjustments will work this Sunday. Your video was perfect for what I needed and I will go back to your videos to learn more about our system since the responsibility falls on me now. KUDOs to you.
God bless you so much for this
While this video talks about the general setup and routing, here is another video that can help you refine your mix. It is a full walk through of my setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thanks, this is really helpful! My church will be getting an X32 in the next couple weeks. Our church has a main mono output, so we just started adding some stereo (keyboards and electric drums) for our livestream mix. Question for you--I saw you had acoustic guitar in stereo. What's the best way to do this? We have a direct output from our acoustic guitar amp into the board, but it's a single XLR out. Thanks again for your videos!
I’ll do a video on this soon, but the short version is you select the 2nd channel you want to use and go into the Config tab and change the input source to be the main acoustic input. The gain will be shared since it relates to the one preamp, but you have the ability to do EQ, comp, and panning all different across these channels.
Thank you so much for this! Clearest explanation I've found on routing a BUS to the CARD. For some reason I can't get audio to flow back from the computer the board via USB. Can you point me toward an explanation of what could be wrong with my settings? Thanks again for your awesome videos! Aloha from Hawaii.
Mahalo. This video talks about getting channels to easily move from console to computer and back again. Let me know if you still have questions after watching this one.
ua-cam.com/video/oPragZ_x7MQ/v-deo.html
Thank You!
You are welcome. If you want to enhance the mix further, this video discusses a deeper dive into making this MixBUS style mix... even better. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Question. I watch the video on how to set up your livestream and I heard you speak about using a USB cable. We use Boxcast for our livestream along with the Roland V-1hd switcher. How did you run your cabling for your livestream feed?
My specific setup runs out XLR outputs and goes into my ATEM TV Studio HD. There is an AJA converter (SDI to USB) which goes into a laptop where we stream through OBS to UA-cam. Many of my viewers do not have a video switcher to run into so these videos discuss routing out the X-USB card and using USB to get the audio into their streaming software.
This is a great video! Thanks for your knowledge and willingness to share your expertise! So far, we are fairly low tech and we are not live streaming. However, we just started back meeting in our building and are recording on a single, Canon XA30 camcorder. No switcher of any kind. We are working toward improvements but that is going to take money and time. However, we do have an X32 mixer! Our camera has 2 xlr audio inputs and I am wondering if I can send a mix from our X32 to our Canon XA30. If this isn't possible or optimal, another option would be to send the mix out to a separate computer and then add the audio to video in postproduction. It just seems that if we could directly input to the camera it would save a step.
You are on the right path for sure. All you need to do is route your stream output to go out two additional XLR outputs and connect them to your camera. Then you will have the stream audio going into your camera. At that point you can either record it or push it wherever you want to go.
@@AllamHouse Thank you for your fast response!
Thank you so much for all of your videos! They have really been a blessing for us at St. Mark. Question: I’ve created my stream mix on bus 11&12 via usb. How do I get those faders to only control the volume on the stream instead of the volume of both the front of house monitors and the stream? I want to control the front of house volume with only the main fader while 11&12 only control the stream volume. Thanks in advanced!
If I understand this right, you have a stream mix on Bus 11/12 and it is routed out USB to your stream. That setup (ideally) will be a post-fader mix so any changes you make in the house will be replicated on the stream.
Your issue is that this mix is also being heard in monitors (presumably floor wedges) that are on stage. My guess is that you have output 11 and/or 12 feeding those monitors. To change this you would go into Routing>Out tab and scroll to output 11 to see what is feeding it.
This is sp great. Thank you so much. Wanna ask. Instead of a bus to mix these separately, can i use a matrix? I wanna feed that matrix into an aux send then via 1/4 cables to my live stream pc either through my focusrite or these 1/4 (joined stereo) to 3.5 mm cables directly into my pc. I want to leave my card out for multitrack recording as as such i dont wanna touch that. Please advise. Thank you.
You can use a Matrix to copy your mains (or other buses) into and then route them out your 1/4” AUX out on the back of the console. This video walks you through the steps, but you will have to modify it slightly to route to your desired AUX outs instead of the USB that I discuss.
ua-cam.com/video/RXMAb8XNeys/v-deo.html
Thanks Allan. Is the stereo setup a requirement or preference? We have been live streaming for multiple weeks on just a single bus but since you mentioned stereo I thought it may be something looking into.
Stereo is a preference, but if you can spare the options (most people have Matrix available) it is well worth it for your listeners.
Great video tutorials, I currently run a mono mix out to a scarlett solo via a aux bus. I have one question though, if I wanted to go stereo via usb, should I route stereo buses directly to the USB output or should I create a matrix just for the stream?
I find it easiest to use a Stereo Aux Mix and run it out USB 1/2 to my streaming computer. This video is an in depth walk through of my exact setup. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thank you!!!!🌝
Now that you have a general setup using an AUX (or BUS) mix, check out this video that walks through how to refine it for your broadcast. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
thank you!!!!!
If you choose to use this method you might find this in-depth video helpful. It can take tour mix to the next level now that you have the connections made properly.
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thanks a lot. Another one simple question. We chage the amout of effects durring the show, especially some situation like addint more delay at the end of a certain frase of a song. In this setup this effects wont go to the live stream. Is there a way to setup that we those additional affets we put on during the show, cal be also heard in the live stream? Thanks in Advance
This video expands on the general setup discussed in the video you watched. This will show you all of the details of setting up custom FX and making them work in your house and/or stream. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Great video. Thank you. If you’re not going to use post fader, what determines the level going out to the USB. I am having a hard time getting a loud enough output through the USB. Is the level going out through the USB determined by the individual streaming channel levels?
The audio path hits the preamp which is the biggest factor to your overall stream volume. After that you use the signals to build a mix into a MixBUS (pre or post fader) and those “sends on fader” levels will build the mix into the MixBUS. Typically O see that peoples amps on their PA are turned up all the way so they have to find a place to limit the room volume and they incorrectly do this at the gain. This action trickles down to impact any monitors, FX and any live stream you are building on the console (or even a DAW). This video here describes this more. ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.htmlsi=GM84bIbqfc5Eindz
Hi AllamHouse,
I followed all the steps in the video. But it seems our overall volume, mainly for the mics is too quiet. Is there a way to change this other than messing with the gain for each channel? Our in room mix aounds great, it's just the live stream sound that is too quiet.
I'm using an xlr out on OUT 6 and 7. This is tied to mixbus 9 and 10. Thanks!
This is a common issue that many run into. The short version is your amps are cranked up too much so you compensate with lower gain. Check this video here. ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.html
@@AllamHouse We finished our first livestream last week. And thank you for your assistance!
Our volume is definitely boosted after adjusting the gain (still trying to find a compromise on this, since we get a higher level of feedback in the house).
The stream audio, running 2 XLR to our atem hd studio, still sounds very raw. And for some reason when I apply effects to the stream mixbus, they don't seem to add much to the stream mix. Are there any changes I can make to have it sound less like a direct feed?
I also noticed you said amps, should we have our xlr lines from the stage running into amps before reaching the X32? Right now they run direct to our X32. Apologies for so many questions, I'm my church's creative director. I'm a video person, audio is my weakness.
What is the BEST way to get the signal to the stream? Matrix? AUX BUS s? USB to DAW? I realize that there are many, approaching infinite, ways to accomplish this task (like most things computer related), but I would like to just learn one way, the best way, as has been determined by your experience / trial and error. I guess I'm trying to eliminate so many variables. Thanks so much for your contributions to everyone's efforts during this period of difficulties.
Thanks for the encouragement. I personally started with this setup here using a MixBUS. We only have one sound engineer at any given event and we need the FOH and stream mix to be handled well by one person. Video link: ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
That being said I just did a full walk through top-to-bottom on my scene as I have made some alterations to it after using it for about 8 months. That is in a playlist which can be found here... ua-cam.com/play/PLsW5UVUiB1ry8bnPJ5q8fR93KHW2TPKpg.html
Thank you very much for your videos, they are extremely helpful....
Quick question.. Isn't still stereo if for Example from your video...I route output 5&6 to the same mix bus?
Rather then routing output 5 to mix bus 5 and output 6 to mix bus 6?
Can't we just route output 5&6 to mix bus 5?
Using a singular output would only provide you with a mono signal. If you sent this to some speakers you would either need to run your speakers in series (daisy chain) or you would need to duplicate your MixBUS 5 so you could feed both L and R speakers. The signal would be the same in both so you would not have the ability to pan. This is either called bridged mono or mixed mono... not stereo. Using the MixBUS 5 and 6 allows you to pan them hard left and right creating width in your audio field and this allows you to pan individual inputs within this entire field which will translate through to the speakers you connect them to... assuming your speakers are setup in a stereo fashion.
Hi Allam, when you mention (Run into usb) it means connecting the x32 usb port into the computer? For live streaming? Thanks in advance.
Yes, You will connect a USB (A-B) cable form your computer to the X-USB card on the back of the X32. This video then explains how to get the audio to go out of the USB cable to the computer.
Very helpful video, thanks! If I assign a mix bus to card outputs 1&2 (which is what OBS uses for streaming) I lose the direct outputs on those channels right? I currently have mics on channels 1-16 on the card (corresponding to my local inputs 1-16) which I record directly in Reaper for later re-mixing. Do I need to move the mics from channels 1&2 to some other channels if I use 1&2 for the stream mix?
Here is a video that discusses your situation for streaming and multitracking. ua-cam.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/v-deo.html
@@AllamHouse exactly what I needed, thanks!
Good Morning. I have a question. We do live streaming at our church and have for the last 5 years. Love your videos they have been helpful. My question is our streaming room is 50 or so feet from the sanctuary. We have routed the audio from the X32 to the stream room into a simple 10 channel Behringer mixer. We have running a computer with X32-Mix edit. What I am wondering is if I follow your instructions from your video and have all the channels on a separate bus mix can I control the sends on fader on the X32 edit and not bother the house mix? Let me know and any information you have would be very helpful! Thanks
Yes, you can setup a Pre-Fader AUX mix and then use X32 edit to control the mix remotely. This video has a much longer setup process that you might get some tips/tricks from, but this video talks about a Post Fader AUX mix where you want a Pre Fader AUX mix. I don’t want it to confuse you, but hopefully this is helpful. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hey, at my church have x32 and run usb cable from Board to laptop to run obs. Used run good but now audio on obs not picking up at all. And tried to record audio in audacity on laptop didn’t pick up the mic or instruments. Make sure route right do you have to route different for recording audio in obs or audacity
If your machine is a Mac then I would look towards the console for your routing. My guess is you are on a Windows machine and your console routing is probably correct. For the windows machine to recognize the console you need to go to Behringer's website and download/install the X-USB driver. I discuss where to find this in the first two minutes of this video ua-cam.com/video/uijp9GD-gT0/v-deo.html
If you already have the driver installed you may need to address your security settings which I discuss for both Mac and Windows in this video ua-cam.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/v-deo.html
One more question about OBS looking for Outputs 1 and 2. On my OBS, that works, but I also see on the aux mic dropdown menu in OBS (in addition to 1-2), (all BEHRINGER X USB) IN 7-8, IN 5-6, IN 3-4, and IN 1-8. Looks like in OBS you can now select additional outputs in addition to 1-2. Just a curiosity for me, but looks like the selection has been expanded.
Yes, the newer versions of OBS do offer more robust input options which could remove your need to do custom routing in the X32
Wonderful video! So helpful!! Question: How can we connect and record from the x32 Edit app on MacBook into Ableton on the same labtop without using the USB cable and without using Osculator?
I'm glad the video was helpful. I want to cover a few things to help you understand the different tools you mention here.
(1) X32 Edit is an app for remotely controlling the soundboard for mixing. This could be setup by either connecting a router to the soundboard and then your laptop (or iPad) could connect to that router and control the board, or you could connect a Cat5 cable directly between your computer and board. This would be the "remote control" port on the back of the board.
(2) X32 Edit is NOT used for recording. The X-USB slot on the back of the board is setup to be used for recording into a DAW (digital audio workstation). In your message you mention Ableton which would be the DAW you are trying to use. You will have to connect the USB cable from the X-USB slot to the computer to get signal into Ableton. Here is a video I made that discusses this with Trackslive... ua-cam.com/video/oPragZ_x7MQ/v-deo.html
(3) You mention Osculator and I am not sure what that is to be able to speak to using it or not using it. I do not use it in my setup.
Thank you so much for these videos! I'm learning as I go. Last week I got my main outputs mirrored to Out 1 and 2. I use OBS, and I can hear the X32 sound on the live stream, but it's not near loud enough. It looks like the setup in this video is the next step. At the end of the video, you talk about adjusting stream loudness with the faders. Can I also adjust gain when Bus 5 and/or 6 are selected to increase the volume on my stream? Thanks again!
Usually the “low stream volume” begins with the input gain of each input. This video describes the common issues to address. Also, keep in mind that 0dB output on the console (clipping) is recorded as -6 dB outside of the console. If you build a mix at -12-18dB like many discuss it will be 6dB quieter when getting into OBS. ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.htmlsi=XrGH7tFhEqX-ZDJ3
Thanks for the great video. I’m trying to do a simpler livestream from an X32. I created a feed in Aux 7 and wanted to add some reverb from Bus 13. Can the reverb be adjusted by channel or is it just a little reverb added to the entire Aux 7?
The way the Send/Return FX work is by default they have a Bus (13-16) that you use the Sends on Fader feature to build the mix that goes into that FX rack. Then, on the left side of the console you have the returns for each rack. You can select your stream Bus, hit Sends on Fader and then add the desired FX return into that bus. Keep in mind the FX are stereo so you will diminish their actual affect when you sum it to mono going into a mono bus for your stream. If possible, use a stereo pair for your stream and this will provide a more standard experience for your listeners. I hope this helps.
This is great! Thank you so much, it's really helpful. I'm routing from the desk into an audio interface connected to the live stream and don't have a USB - can I use a standard xlr/quarter inch jack for this? If so, do I use an 'aux out' output or just an 'out' output? Will I still get stereo from one of these, or do I need 2 separate cables? Thanks!
The goal of this setup is to remove the need for an audio interface and allow the console to do all the work. All you need is an older printer cable (USB A->B) and plug it into the back of the console in the X-USB slot and connect to your computer for streaming.
If you want to continue using the interface you would route your MixBUS to go (physically) out whichever output you are sending to your interface. If you use XLR you will need two cables and if you use AUX outs you will need two cables in order to keep a stereo mix.
For routing with XLR you will go to the ‘OUT’ tab and for aux you will go to the ‘AUX’ tab.
@@AllamHouse thank you so much, been setting it up this morning but as you said, it is only coming through the left ear. I presume that might be because I only have one cable connected, but it is very odd that even when I change the panning it is always only on the left side of the stream. When I tested it through the headphone port of the X32 it was fine however, so the problem must be on its way to the audio interface
I’d you have a stereo pair for tour stream, but only send one cable out of the console, you will only have a mono feed. Grab a second cable and make yet stereo mix happen.
Awesome Video!!! Quick question. Can I turn up the gain on under the DYN tab to increase the volume going to my stream. I see that you didn’t touch it and I really need more volume going to my stream.
You are not alone and that most of us are always searching for more consistent volume in our live stream. There are a few tools that can be used like the make-up gain on the compressor or a limiter, but the best place to start is in this video here. Make sure your gain structure is set properly as this is a common issue that needs to be addressed first.
Start here: ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.html
Full walk-through with other tips: ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Enjoyed this my church is using the berhinger for live streaming and I followed the steps to route it but I find that the only thing that is mixing is the vocals .... I tried mixing the drums but they come through at a steady volume even when I mute it.... also we are using p16s so there is a talkback mic for every musician but that too is also coming through the mix but the fader is muted and turned all the way down in the busses
First place I would start is making sure your selected AUX Bus is setup as post-fader and not pre-fader.
AllamHouse I checked it’s set to post
I’ll have to play at my console to try and emulate the ‘drum’ volume issue. The talkback mic is probably routed to the MixBus and not known. In the talkback area (top right of the console), click the view button. Here you can de-select the Mix is you are using for your Stream.
Okay thanks ! I’ll check this out today at my church hopefully it works but thank you for reaching out and answering my questions
Hello, I appreciate your videos and I've followed this one and your July 21, 2020 video to set up a stereo Mix Bus (I use MB 11&12) for my stream mix which works great! Our church service last week went without a problem as far as mixing our speaker and hearing the karaoke tracks through an AUX IN running from our computer. The sound came through the USB as expected and the recording and stream were fine.
This week I hope to use my iPad to run multi-tracks on channels 15 (left) & 16 (right) using an iPad from the stage. The tracks have a click & guide track panned left and the rest of the instruments panned right. My problem is, I cannot seem to stop channel 15 (clicks & guide) from coming through the stream mix. Do you have any advice on how to stop a channel from going out the USB and still being able to hear it in the BUS OUTS which are being used for the IEMs? Should I be running the iPad to an AUX IN and NOT regular input channels? I had not thought of that until now but could that work? Hoping you see this sooner than later, I hope to get this figured out before the weekend :)
many thanks!
The “Stereo Bus” button just to the left of the screen is the key here. Make sure ch 15&16 are not linked. You will need to select the channel that has your click and then de-select the Stereo Bus button (make it not orange). This will remove it from going to to the main out.
For your Stream Mix going out USB, you want to select your stream MixBUS, hit Sends on Fader, and then turn down the fader for click mute the channel. I am making an overview video which covers this exact setup and it should be coming out soon.
@@AllamHouse Thanks for being quick to respond!! I will check that out today...again, many thanks and keep up the good work...Blessings!!
Hello, is it possible to tap audio from channels before the mutes in the main mix? I'm aiming to send audio from a channel into a mixbus without the channel mutes in the main mixbus affecting it. We have a fairly unconventional situation where we want the operator of the broadcast mix to not worry about a channel being muted in FoH and losing that channel. If I remember correctly, there are some tapping options on the analogue output page, but I think this is for adjusting whether the signal is tapped pre or post from that mixbus fader, rather than the channels that are being fed into it. Many thanks.
The signal flow goes like this... input > Preamp > USB Card > Mute > everything else. If you wanted the stream engineer to have complete control, they would need to either mix in a DAW or on another console.
Thanks, that sounds like a good solution.
thanks you for this great video! one question, when I send a channel to the streaming bus mix, do I get the signal with the processing that I already did on the channel (gain, EQ, compressor and gate)? . thank you!!!
Yes, the MIxBus will take the signal with processing. The good part is you only have to mess with it once, but the bad part is you have to find a happy medium between EQ for the house and EQ for the stream.
Hi Dave, à more général question. I've never used the USER settings as for my situation I've never needed to change my set up, but here's the question.
Are the standard BLOCK settings and the USER settings independent of each other?
By this I mean, if I set up a channel in the USER section does this mean that that channel is no longer "in" the BLOCK settings?
So, does USER override BLOCK or can they be used at the same time, in parallel?
Thanks
This is a great question and it becomes a combination of both. When you go to Routing > User you will find blocks of 1-8, 9-16, etc that can then be individually configured to get (or send for outputs) a signal to a specific location. You then go to Routing > Input and select that User block. In the end, whatever is selected in Routing > Input will determine your inputs.
So I'm trying to get the panning for an online stream. For example I have a keyboard coming into input 17 on my rack, then going to bus 3 (panned L) and 4 (panned R), the bus goes to matrix 1&2 (linked) routed out analog out 3&4 into obs running in stereo mode. I'm monitoring using headphones via bluetooth. When I move the fader send to the bus I can effectively pan. Is this what you are doing? Using the pan knob I only can change what I hear in one hear.
This video here has a much more in depth setup that will give you a lot of control over your live stream. I cover the panning of inputs (specific to the stream) within the video.
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
We too are using the X32 to do FOH, Monitors & Live Streaming. Bus 1-4 are for the monitors with "Pre-EQ", but I cannot seem to set the "Post-Fader" s.t. I can control the volumes to the monitor from the X32 Bus surface faders. Did you do a video on this or can you provide advise?
When you select the BUS and go to Home > Config and select the desired setup (pre fader, post fader, etc.). This will determine how your inputs interact with this BUS. To alter the setup of the actual BUS and how it is sent out you need to go to Routing > Outs. In this location you can set how the overall BUS interacts with its fader while being sent out to its desired location.
Another question, will increasing the volume in the live stream bus you created increase the sound to the live feed? I am using an ATEM Mini Pro ISO and I just want to receive a sound that I don't have to change within the ATEM. Thanks again
Volume issues in the live stream tend to start at the gain setting for each channel. You have to get that right to have a chance at tour live stream volume to be strong enough for your listeners. Here is a video that discusses this topic.
ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.html
Thank for helping me get this setup for our youth. Tonight during the stream the audio kept dropping out. It wasn't the wifi signal. Do you think it's the usb cord to the phone? We have a 40ft cord.. Is there anything else that would cause it to drop out ever 10 seconds or so. The house mix was fine but the online kept doing that.
I’m not sure of your entire setup so it’s a little hard to find where the issue might be, but WiFi is very difficult to stream over especially of your device (the phone you mentioned) is having to encode the audio/video together and then stream it as well. You mentioned there is a USB cable going to the phone which doesn’t make sense to me in a normal setup, but if you can offer further details, I’m happy to help if possible.
Do you use both xlr outputs, channel 5 & 6 to two inputs or can you use one xlr output? Meaning your stream needs both channels connected to the device that is receiving the audio? If you would only connect say channel 5, you wouldn’t have a stereo sound. Hope that makes sense. Say If your camcorder only had one xlr input. Thank you.
This is correct. You want to connect both inputs to your streaming device to make sure you have a stereo audio setup for your stream. Depending on your gear there might be different methods to get the desired outcome other than just running into your camera. Also, if you want to further refine this setup, here is a different video that goes more in depth that you might enjoy. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
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We use a single bus that we run directly into the line input on our broadcast camera.
We've noticed a continuous volume fluctuation at the top end sometimes. What would be the right way to come at this?
The X32 has a limiter effect that I recommend adding to the bus and have it be the last thing you run through before the signal goes out to your camera. This video has some more explanation of the limiter and other setup pieces you might find helpful
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thank you so much,
Wanted to ask,how do you setup a subwoofer on an x32 and controlling independently
This is a great question and one that I just recently covered in a video. Check this out here and let me know if you have other questions. ua-cam.com/video/0TWCvrqYl9w/v-deo.html
Hi Allam, very usefull to me! Thanks for explaining! One questing is WHERE do you change the setting for the POST fader on mixbus 5/6 to use it as an volume control?
Thanks for reaching out. This video here will help you with the different Pre/Post fader options on the console. ua-cam.com/video/1GNmNWdVWKg/v-deo.html
Question, I mix using mix bus 9-10 and have those set for output 9-10 via usb and the 9 is left and 10 is right. But I haven’t figured out how to pan items for stereo if I do sends on fader for one bus for a channel it follows for bus 10 and I don’t want that. The pan knob seems to affect the FOH. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong.
You are correct that the pan knob only affects the FOH mix. You need to select the channel, go to the Home Screen, page over to the sends tab and then find the desired bus (9/10). Now you use the encoder knob to allow panning to the bus, but not the FOH mix.
We're running almost this exact setup from Aux Bus to USB and broadcasting using OBS but we're having 1 issue; very low volume coming into OBS. Sure I can boost the volume in OBS but wanted to see if you had any thoughts on why my USB audio was so low and what I can do to fix that. I've had someone suggest to me to output my Aux Bus to a matrix then from matrix to USB to add volume. thoughts?
Here’s a video I did about low volume concerns. Check it out. ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.html
Does mapping User Output 1-8 disable those channels for using Tracks Live to do a 32-Channel recording? At least that's what I'm observing. I guess I just have to go back in and reset output 1-8 back to default and then I can make a 32 channel recording. Just curious if there is a way round that.
You can use the custom user settings to get everything setup properly. This video discusses the needed changes. ua-cam.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video. Now I know how to creat a separate mix fpr live. One question remaining is the fx I have applied to the inhouse mix per individual inputs. Does that carry over, or do I need to reapply fx per input? Thanks
I sent a basic answer on your video of the Matrix setup, but I run a post Fader MixBUS setup and it provides the ability to have separate mixes for both the house and stream. I cover my setup in the video below. In terms of FX, when beginning I setup two FX for house and two separate ones for the stream to keep it easy to manage. Check this video out and let me know if you have any other questions. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.htmlsi=VY1Mc6Xpk-JHsTvo
Just subscribed - this was super helpful! I am having an issue though. We are running the aux mix out via a 1/4" to 1/8" stereo cable into a mini-ATEM pro. We then use OBS for the video mix and stream to UA-cam. The problem for us is that there is a super high-frequency, feedback-like sound that is constant. I cannot figure out what it is! I solo listen to the signal out of the mixer and there is no frequency/feedback issue, I've switched out all of the cables and made sure the other cameras feeding into ATEM are muted. Any thoughts?
I'm tempted to start completely from scratch as I fear I might have switched around some routing going from a Matrix setup to this Aux send setup. Any ideas would be much appreciated!
I figured it out! Ended up needing a driver update for the X32 usb...all the routing and everything else was spot on. Hope that helps others.
We are running straight out of an X32 into an ATEM Studio HD which then goes into OBS and we do not have any issues like you mentioned. Monitoring out of the console is a good start, then you should be able to monitor out of your ATEM (headphone jack) and further you could monitor out of OBS on the laptop. I would try muting all channels on the console to see if the high pitch noise is coming from a specific input or just potentially a ground loop being created from device to device. Ballast Media (UA-cam channel) has been doing some videos recently about the ATEM Mini that might be helpful.
Hi everyone, thanks for the audio output for the stream. I would like to know if the added effects correspond only to the main mix or to the vocals.
And how to put effects on a set of voices or independently?
This is the follow-up video that walks through a lot of customization you can make to enhance your mix. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hi sir! I'm using this set up. but i just want to ask, if it is possible to have an individual set up on effects?
for example, I want to put a few hall reverb and plate reverb on our worship leader, then in the back up vocals will be more reverbs.. Different set up or volume on a different channel inside the stream set up?
Yep, you will find this video to be helpful to grab some tips on refining your mix and setting up FX. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Thanks so much! Great videos. One question. Does this set up allow for channels to be muted to all outputs? Meaning when I mute in-house can that also mute on the livestream? How can I do that if this setup does not show it?
Yes. When you hit the mute button, it is just after the preamp so it will mute the input in everything downstream. The AUX mix is a really great setup and if you want to customize it, here is a video of the setup I use at my church.
ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hi so understanding this correctly, with this, you don’t need xlr cables connected on the back... right now the way we have been getting audio is with a monobus using a female-headphone jack cable going to the laptop using sling studio... this gets rid of all that and you don’t need xlrs?
Correct. This will use the X-USB connection on the back of the console to connect directly to your computer (through a USB A-B cable). You will free up the XLR output and ideally step into a stereo stream.
Hey man. Thanks for the great video. I have a question. How can I route a stereo bus (say 9 and 10) to come out of the physical outputs of Aux 5&6? Do I do that from the Aux outs section or the user output section? Your help is greatly appreciated
All you need to do is hit the routing button to the right of the screen, scroll to the AUX tab and find AUX 5 and then select the source (Bus 9), then duplicate for AUX 6 (bus 10) and you should be good to go.
AllamHouse Ahh thank you so much. I really appreciate these helpful videos you’re posting
Just a quick question. I have our live stream audio mix set up on the Matrix 1-2 with the limiter on there but i wont be able to creat a mix of my sound on the matrix is that correct? Our audio is running from the usb output on the board
While a Matrix is a quick, easy way to get audio to a live stream you don’t have separate control over the mix for the house and stream or the volume output. I prefer to run a Post Fader MixBUS which you can find descriptions of in these two videos. The first is more about the routing to get it out USB and the second is a full walk through of how to refine your mix for the stream.
Routing Setup: ua-cam.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/v-deo.html
Refine Mix: ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hi Dave, so I copied this configuration to have a separate mix but even after adding the limiter if I leave the routing with the Bus 1 and 2 (that's the one I'm using) the volume is so low and I don't know what it is =/ only when I added the Matrix (with all the routing that u did on the other video) it's when I'm getting a decent volume on my transmission (I'm using the X USB card with the cable to my laptop) is there something by default that helps on that ? A friend use his scene on the x32 so that's the only thing I can think of; thanks for your videos they're really helpful! :D
This is usually a case where your house volume seems fine because your amps are turned up and you compensate. Erring the gain too low. This video talks through the situation you are facing. ua-cam.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/v-deo.html
Question, my church just purchased the X32 so the video is helpful btw. But we also use the usb out to connect the audio to the stream computer. I was told you need the most recent firmware update to be able to create a mix bus and then send that out as the stream audio, is this true or is it possible with an older firmware?
You can do it with the old firmware, but it limits you to have to run your live stream bus mix on either MixBUS 1/2 or 9/10. Then your card outputs would either take outputs 1-8 or 9-16 across USB. Regardless (as mentioned in this video) the streaming computer needs to see your stream mix on USB 1/2 to function properly. With the newer firmware version (4.0 or newer) you can set and output to be routed to USB 1/2 so there is som e flexibility there. Please make sure you save tour scene to the board before upgrading your firmware, but the process is simple and only take a second (both to save tour scene and upgrade the firmware).
ua-cam.com/video/G0bqVeviRKg/v-deo.html
Hello Dave. I was watching this but it doesn’t show me how to route the stream Mix bus out to Aux 5&6. Which video shows me how to route to Aux out?
Sorry, I don’t have an exact video yet for this, but was hoping the concept might be transferable. I’ll see if I can put something together this week.
Thanks for this video. But my question is after linking the bus 5&6 how do I pan the input channels to get a stereo mix out?
You might find this entire video helpful for refining your stream mix, but check the description to find a quick link to the section about panning. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Hi Dave, thanks so much for these videos!! I am 2 weeks into our x32 Compact, and could use help. We are sending a Bus to the live stream, but I am late on mics like when the service leader comes up after songs, trying to sound them to FOH and to the Live stream is tough to remember and sound at the same time. Is there a way to send post fader following FOH on raw inputs directed out to the live stream (like you Matrix video), but still have another layer on top of it (like your Bus video here) to bring in different Effects or boost mix if needed? I just want something there as a backup just in case I'm not fast enough. Thanks so much! Ben
Dave, I was looking at your other videos and found you already answered this!! One Engineer, One Board, Two Streams! ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html This was EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!! Thanks so much! Ben
Yep, that’s the one I was going to mention. Good luck with everything.
Hello, great information and help. Just one question. Why am I not able to control the individual volumes? The output volume is the same no matter where I put the fader.
This seems like you have the MixBUS set to subgroup instead of Pre Fader or Post Fader
I noticed that you added effects to the streaming mix. I would imagine that these effects are affecting the entire bus mix. Is there a way to turn on Reverb for specific channels and not for others when mixing the stream through this pair of stereo buses?
Yes, this video here is the companion to the one you watched. It takes the concepts and routing that is now in place and walks through an entire custom setup for your stream mix from top to bottom. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
Do you use custom outs for more precise routing? Like combining physical & card outs?
Card outputs are separate from physical outputs. You have 16 physical and 32 card outputs. If I am multitracking, I like to record my final stream mix along with my inputs so that does take some custom routing, but my physical outs support my stage (monitors), FOH mix, and a pair go to my video switcher for my live stream.
Right now I have the mixbus going out from an xlr to 1/8 inch into blackmagic. We use obs, would it be better to go out of the x32 through USB into the computer running obs instead of going through blackmagic? Im also clipping on my busmix input, should I just bring everything down on through sends on fader on my auxmix live stream bus?
I prefer to stay in the digital space if possible by using the USB connection which also removes one point of failure.
It is worth addressing your clipping on the MixBUS in the console before it leaves so you have a controlled signal. I tend to run my audio up to about -3 on the output meter of the console (understanding that the overall peak output of the console is the industry standard -6dBfs. I send my stream across XLR to the ATEm TV Studio HD and then across SDI to ProPresenter7. In Pro7 we bump the audio up +6 to compensate for the board and it goes out to the world at that point.
This video here is one that describes how I use various parts of the board to get my stream as controlled as possible to be “broadcast ready”. ua-cam.com/video/9abR8wv4a9c/v-deo.htmlsi=Xg_BaV3CI8qoAP3J
@@AllamHouse you are a blessing kind sir. Thank you for the quick reply. I will attempt to implement this during worship practice on Wednesday to get it ready for the Sunday stream.