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  • So the Firmware update is out and I can add my own Impulse responses to the Fender Tone Master Pro, is it still as good? what do they need to add? Also I'm quickly just comparing it against the Quad Cortex which is what I use live nowadays.
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  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks 11 місяців тому +155

    These follow up videos are really important. Thanks for putting it out there, Ola.

    • @chidbro23
      @chidbro23 6 місяців тому

      it Is you in all the comments i knew it

  • @petersouthwell5971
    @petersouthwell5971 11 місяців тому +6

    I love how you gave the "guys who chug" take on this. !!! Bunch of people were doing a review on this You had the only Metal Perspective on it.

  • @erik.liebenberg
    @erik.liebenberg 11 місяців тому +16

    The spacing between the buttons is a bigger selling point than most people would think, especially for gigging musicians. I've been running a Helix floor for a few years, and then ended up buying the Stomp XL. I've run into the same issues as Ola described where you accidentally hit additional buttons with your feet, because of the spacing reduction of buttons on the smaller Helix. Nice vid as always Ola!

  • @SaySomethingWorthHearing
    @SaySomethingWorthHearing 11 місяців тому +8

    I've owned Axe-Fxs and Kempers since their beginnings and have owned tons of amps over the years including Engl, Mesa, Marshall, Randall, Egnater, VHT and more.
    I currently own a QC and a nice Synergy setup with a variety of modules and a Fryette Power Station as the power section and for use recording.
    I think, at this point, it's safe to say that all of these latest generation modelers/profilers/capturers sound pretty damn good so it really comes down to what your needs/wants are.
    I do mainly writing and producing and I think the QC, with great captures, sounds every bit as good as an excellent amp with perfectly placed mics on a great cab
    With my Axe-Fx and Kempers, I thought they sounded good, but I always felt like there was a few percentage points of "realness" or "aliveness" that just wasn't there.
    With the QC, I don't feel that at all. Through my studio monitors, it sounds like a live tube amp perfectly set up for recording and with the Power Station, it's easy to get that "in the room" air moving through a cab if you like that.
    The HUGE deal breaker for me with the Fender is the fact that you're limited completely by what amps Fender decides to give you.
    With the Quad cortex and others, you can go to third parties like Sinmix and get outstanding profiles for not a lot of money. If you like hard rock or metal, Sinmix makes excellent captures.
    At this price point, Fender has made an excellent LOOKING product, but has really missed the boat on the platform with no profiling and no third party amp abilities.
    At this price point, with no profiling/capturing ability, it would have to come with well over 100 different amp models in ALL genres to even catch my eye.
    For just jamming or song production, NAM is free and sounds every bit as good or better than everything else out there.
    I know I sure wish I had something like the QC years ago when I was playing gigs every weekend and hauling around a 100w VHT head, 4x12 cab and a rack of effects. This is an amazing time to be a guitar player and I hope you young whippersnappers realize how good you have it. I had no UA-cam to learn songs back in the day. It was all by ear.
    If you aren't sold on the modeler thing, the Synergy system is outstanding and there are easily enough variety in modules to cover every genre of guitar music.
    In my opinion, the Synergy system is the PERFECT way to get a variety of killer amp tones without breaking the bank. It sounds FAR better than the old Randall and Egnater MTS products. Night and day better in my opinion and when you're gassing for a new amp, instead of spending a few grand, it's only $400 to get a completely different amp. Pretty cool.
    To each their own, but as great as the Fender looks, to spend that much money and be limited by how well Fender supports the product with future amp models is a no deal for me.
    There's just too much out there already that sounds excellent and doesn't have those limitations.
    I'll shut up now and return to obscurity.

    • @adambrook6322
      @adambrook6322 11 місяців тому

      I appreciate it. Don't return just yet, how would you rank amp sims against these? I'm trying to decide if I should go modeller because of the ease of use and not needing processing power, or just cut the shit and get a new computer to run the Cali Suite on, because I found some metal tones on there that felt "right" for me and would be willing to make my ride-or-die recording tone. I just want something to noodle on, too. One of my friends who knows a lot more about this shit than I do argued that amp sims (albeit good ones) were better because of superior sampling rates from the computer. I have yet to dip my toes into NAM.

    • @SaySomethingWorthHearing
      @SaySomethingWorthHearing 11 місяців тому

      @@adambrook6322If I was starting from scratch, I'd start with the NAM. It's a no brainer. It's free and sounds amazing.
      If you find you want some hardware, then you can branch out from there.
      As far as sample rates go etc., forget all the tech talk. Play your guitar through whatever your options are and if you think it sounds great and it inspires you, then it's irrelevant what's going on under the hood.
      I have 3 of the Neural DSP plugins and they sound great. I also have the STL tones plug in and it sounds good, but Neural DSP is in another league in my humble opinion.
      Now that Neural DSP has released their editor beta, it's an even bigger win I think. Having a desktop editor is the only thing I've missed about having the Axefx or Kemper.

  • @rubonz7714
    @rubonz7714 11 місяців тому +4

    Glad you are coming back to this product after such a long time. Such a nostalgic feeling. ;)

  • @sqlb3rn
    @sqlb3rn 11 місяців тому +30

    Four loops is great, you can run four pedals with the unit and automatically swap them in and out of the signal chain with presets like a loop switcher. I use my digitech whammy in the loop of my Pod Go because all emulations of the Whammy suck.

    • @Ghaos
      @Ghaos 11 місяців тому +1

      I'd hit the manual about the loops, apparently they can only be used in certain parts of the chain.

  • @JohnSheehan72
    @JohnSheehan72 11 місяців тому +15

    I know it might be hard procuring one - but you should go back and check out the changes to Helix. There are some great additions for metal guitarist. Their addition of the Revv Gen Red and Revv Gen Purple are god tier models. I haven't heard a better high gain amp from a modeler yet. They totally overhauled the built in cabinets with much higher quality models and I'm finding myself using them more then my IR's now. As always, Line6 is known for quality effects and they've added a bunch more to the Helix arsenal. It's really worth a new review. I'm glad Fender is getting into the game - and I've seen some early reviews but haven't had my hands on the Tone Master Pro - but from everything I see, it looks really early stage under the hood, but I love the looks of the package and it seems like something that is road worthy. Good stuff as always Ola - appreciate your unbiased reviews.

    • @MrBlumpkin42
      @MrBlumpkin42 11 місяців тому +3

      Simple solution - Run the Helix Native plug-in.

    • @JohnSheehan72
      @JohnSheehan72 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MrBlumpkin42 I do, and you can actually do a lot of things with the plugin you can't with the actual physical unit (and vice versa), so to be a fair review I would recommend using the actual unit.

  • @sjsphotog
    @sjsphotog 11 місяців тому +5

    Helix still the best unit overall including the great customer service and huge community of knowledge and free presets available for us. I'll keep my Helix LT

  • @dust17111
    @dust17111 11 місяців тому +5

    Fender from my experience with their practice amp the fender mustang makes excellent tones , the cleans are clean 🫧 and the effects are cool and sound beautiful and if you want to chug you can make them chug , as a metal guy fender sold me on amps about three years ago.

  • @MortusEst666
    @MortusEst666 11 місяців тому +52

    Fender sounds a bit digital then Quadcortex. Less dynamics. It would be interesting to compare Fender/Quadcortex/Fractal in mix with the similar presets.

    • @Mr.Goldbar
      @Mr.Goldbar 11 місяців тому

      honestly I even thought the Quad Cortex sounded too digital, I guess I won't like the Fender after all.
      At least ToneX is better and cheaper by a lot :)

    • @zekkari27
      @zekkari27 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Mr.Goldbarwtf, quadcortex sound way bettee than tonex!? 😂

    • @Mr.Goldbar
      @Mr.Goldbar 11 місяців тому +9

      @@zekkari27 tried both and much prefer the ToneX, would say it sounds even better for what I wanna use it for :)

    • @joejohnson8966
      @joejohnson8966 11 місяців тому +1

      Was the same in my experience@@Mr.Goldbar

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 11 місяців тому +2

      In the mix... the slight differences would probably not even be noticeable.

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify 11 місяців тому +7

    The fender amps and spring reverbs are where this TMP unit really shines

  • @SilencioEfimero
    @SilencioEfimero 11 місяців тому +5

    You’re awesome Ola, thank you for everything you do, bro.

  • @stevenhowell4694
    @stevenhowell4694 11 місяців тому +9

    I keep it old school, when I have something like this I feel like I fiddle with it more than jam. The portability is nice though.

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 11 місяців тому +2

      So true. Same here. More fiddling, less playing. That's what happens with this kinda stuff.

    • @wafflemanofficial3130
      @wafflemanofficial3130 11 місяців тому +1

      Hell I lose enough of my time tweaking amp sims I'm not paying 1800 for more tweaking

  • @scottwhitlow8468
    @scottwhitlow8468 11 місяців тому +10

    Definitely would like to see you do more videos on the TMP. That first video you did with the dual cabs sounded killer! 👍🏻

  • @raisedonfiction
    @raisedonfiction 11 місяців тому +6

    I want Fender to focus on making a new and improved micro gt. I use that thing more than any other amp I have.

  • @BaldyMacbeard
    @BaldyMacbeard 11 місяців тому +13

    Tonal differences aside: the Fender unit has a built-in power supply, which is a huge plus. I also dig the bigger button spacing and scribble strips.

    • @SirPraiseSun
      @SirPraiseSun 11 місяців тому

      its a huge plus? come back when ur psu fails buddy Neural DSP is still king crushes the FTM

    • @espkh1549
      @espkh1549 11 місяців тому +1

      One day Apple is gonna make one that rules them all

    • @kevinkaol3681
      @kevinkaol3681 11 місяців тому

      still use garage band on the iPad with an audio interface and some In ear monitors for silent practice at home, sounds pretty good@@espkh1549

  • @allanthgersen4908
    @allanthgersen4908 11 місяців тому +8

    great try out Ola, how about revisit some old modellers like the full Boss GT1000, it have gotten some updates since your last visit to it, how does it stack up today in Olaland ?

  • @allenblackwell4979
    @allenblackwell4979 10 місяців тому +1

    My quest is not to find my comfort that I’m used to before the pre-modeler era. These units give you options that cover all genres/eras, which is left to your imagination, which helps bring through you, ideas you would’ve never tried, because of being outfitted for a particular style of music; but now you have presets aka abracadabra at your fingertips; make it happen!! But that’s my take on it!! 🎸

  • @michaelwalston2438
    @michaelwalston2438 11 місяців тому +7

    I paid a pretty penny for my Boss GT1000 when it came out. In terms of processing power, it is on par with this thing, I believe, but it is incredibly fiddly to use, and the lack of a touch screen hurts it in the marketplace.
    I have gotten some quite satisfactory tones out of it, but it is actually like analog gear in the sense that knob settings really change things up at all points in the signal chain.

    • @markjohnson1020
      @markjohnson1020 11 місяців тому +1

      Same. I bought 2 GT1000's as I need a backup. The separate IR loader sucks too...
      I may be the only one who really loves the ISP Theta Pro, but if you want analog tone and feel in a digital processor, the ISP Theta Pro is it. The chorus alone is to absolutely die for.

    • @mikey_dk
      @mikey_dk 11 місяців тому +2

      Got my gt1000 core for a steal and I'm happy to stick with it till this modeler arms race nears the technological ceiling at with point I'll shell out the big bucks and call it a day

    • @michaelwalston2438
      @michaelwalston2438 11 місяців тому

      ​@mikey_dk I guess I should clarify that I do quite like my GT1000--it sort of sounds like I don't. But when I refer to knob settings--the concept of "unity gain", which other modelers do adhere to, is sadly lacking on the GT1000. If your chorus volume (for example) is set too high it can cause a whole chain of unwanted noise.
      But with careful adjustment you can compensate. First, though. you better set your guitar input in the menu, that is absolutely key. And if you like to mess with your guitar volume and tone controls that adds another level of complexity.
      In the end, though, I have really been able to come up with some very sweet sounds.

    • @espkh1549
      @espkh1549 11 місяців тому +1

      I’m gonna wait for a Chinese company to make a similar device at 1/10 of the cost and better

    • @michaelwalston2438
      @michaelwalston2438 11 місяців тому

      ​@espkh1549 Good luck with that. Maybe Behringer will just copy one of these units.

  • @evilutionltd
    @evilutionltd 11 місяців тому +13

    Only a Fender fan boy would be paying that much when the Quadcortex is the same price, the Kemper is a bit cheaper and the Headrush is so much cheaper.

    • @mreyes8519
      @mreyes8519 11 місяців тому +2

      Quad cortex sucks though. Talk about a waste of $. At least fender is shipping this out with all of the features working 😂

    • @evilutionltd
      @evilutionltd 11 місяців тому +4

      @@mreyes8519 sucks so bad that the majority of touring musicians use them.

    • @superglassbucks6356
      @superglassbucks6356 11 місяців тому

      Or a newbie…only the stores are in love with the TMP so far. I’ll check it out after a few updates see if Fender stays interested

    • @mreyes8519
      @mreyes8519 11 місяців тому +2

      @@evilutionltd majority? Dafuq? That’s fractal and line 6

  • @satarello
    @satarello 11 місяців тому +6

    most classic metal amps in Fender TONE Pro sounds really good especially EVH . Thanks for sharing of your thoughts OLA :)

  • @PJ-uv6ve
    @PJ-uv6ve 11 місяців тому +5

    I had the Helix and the Quad Cortex but sold them both when I got the Fractal FM9.. just sounds a lot more chuggy and powerful and the cleans are more crisp

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, FM9 for the win!

    • @tappistrt
      @tappistrt 11 місяців тому

      Too bad they're lagging on the FM9 MKII with the bigger LCD displays.

  • @daniejw
    @daniejw 11 місяців тому +3

    From what I’ve seen after watching quite a few reviews. Fender has a ways-to go to catch up to Line6 and AxeFX.

  • @duncaninglis3806
    @duncaninglis3806 11 місяців тому +6

    I don't like metal at all. But I love your videos. Maybe something is wrong with me.

  • @niclastname
    @niclastname 11 місяців тому +1

    Ola PLEASE do a demo of the Boss NS-1X noise gate. Save us from all the demos that don't do that 4 cable method! I have no idea if it's good or not because even Fluff and Andertons failed to wire it up the right way using the loop and just went straight in instead. You're our only hope!

  • @mazziecat
    @mazziecat 11 місяців тому +3

    That preset sounds almost record like to me. Pretty amazing imo. Nice work!

  • @melvinjames1077
    @melvinjames1077 5 місяців тому

    You nailed ot “ you need a overdrive ! My buddy got one yesterday we where jamming and he is looking through the amps and found what I thought was good sounds ! But while he is goofing around i was melting his ears with the badlander 50watt lol

  • @Pericles777
    @Pericles777 11 місяців тому +1

    Lunch day is my favorite

  • @kelvindam3306
    @kelvindam3306 11 місяців тому +3

    Cool comparison! Oh and just today Neural released a desktop editor for the Quad Cortex :)

    • @algorithm007ify
      @algorithm007ify 11 місяців тому

      They just need to get rid of the wall wart and add scribble scripts!

    • @breadnaut3087
      @breadnaut3087 11 місяців тому

      Its almost like healthy competition is a GOOD thing..

  • @ickebins6948
    @ickebins6948 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm still rocking a MOOER GE200, it's more then enough for me.

  • @sirtogii5216
    @sirtogii5216 11 місяців тому +1

    As a noob I absolutely love my NUX MG30 as it gives me the option to try amps, effects to my hearts content without having to spend a fortune on gear and probably get divorced for filling the house up with junk. Great to be able to play really distorted riffs at low volume as well. For real musicians though? And also my modeller cost less than £300, not 1500...

    • @WholeLottaBulldog
      @WholeLottaBulldog 11 місяців тому

      Looking to pick an MG-30 just for this reason. Can I ask how the rectifier sounds in it? Gotta have a decent dual rectifier or no beuno

  • @davemahan1993
    @davemahan1993 11 місяців тому +3

    I’m interested in what resources will be dedicated to the Tone Master Pro loving forward. Fender is a big company, but they have their attention split a million different ways with their own guitars, amps, and effects, plus all the subsidiaries and other companies they work with. Neural has less overall resources, but they can dedicate a larger chunk to the Quad Cortex. The sound quality seems fine with both units, but that’s a large investment in a product which is sort of an “out of left field” option for Fender.

    • @RStolFender
      @RStolFender 11 місяців тому +3

      Hi Dave, the TMP is a long standing project for us at Fender and we will have regular updates coming out every 6 months with new amps, effects, bug updates, etc.

    • @superglassbucks6356
      @superglassbucks6356 11 місяців тому

      @@RStolFendersounds like I’ll check out in about 1- 2 years thanks

    • @davemahan1993
      @davemahan1993 11 місяців тому

      @@RStolFender I’m glad to hear it!

    • @CarlisleFox
      @CarlisleFox 11 місяців тому

      @@RStolFender After a lot of consideration I ordered one today looking to use it for gigging over the coming years, really happy to see this message, makes me feel more confident about my purchase - thank you!

  • @breadnaut3087
    @breadnaut3087 11 місяців тому +2

    I cant wait to get this damn thing. Its what Ive needed but better in every way. All the bugs and lack of metal amps will be fixed over time. Im not worried about it.

  • @noquarterpunk
    @noquarterpunk 11 місяців тому +5

    That doom shirt is 🔥🔥

  • @SonegPanasoneg
    @SonegPanasoneg 11 місяців тому +1

    I have Fender Mustang GTX, and the presets based on Mesa Mark IIC amp are awesome!
    Especially with Marshall cab

  • @TheOffensiveSenses
    @TheOffensiveSenses 11 місяців тому +2

    That Mark model without the boost almost sounds more like 90s Metallica, somewhere between the Black and Load/Reload tones

  • @SimonT54
    @SimonT54 10 місяців тому

    Good shit Ola! Thanks for following up with us!

  • @markopolo6959-h8f
    @markopolo6959-h8f 11 місяців тому +16

    Just got mine. Haven't had a chance to get into it just yet but I'm excited. I'd love to see you set up a Dimebag rig on this to see how close you can get! Thanks for your vids Ola! (Commented before watching. lol You answered my prayers before I even asked! I would like for you to go over your settings though)

    • @altpath
      @altpath 11 місяців тому +3

      At 3:52 he shows he made a dime preset

    • @markopolo6959-h8f
      @markopolo6959-h8f 11 місяців тому +1

      @@altpath Yeah,I saw that. I would love to see him go through the settings of that preset and explain what he did and why

    • @hyperluminalreality1
      @hyperluminalreality1 11 місяців тому +2

      Touch screen fail after updating. and a small percentage of the amps sound like the real thing according to Ola. I predict a wave of returns. Have fun with your newfound convenience and ultimate tube tones and feel (sarcasm). Sounds like the Emperor Wears No Clothes. Robert Baker said the visceral touch response and feel are missing when comparing the Fender amp models with his real 1960's Fender amps. Fender cannot do Fender apparently.

    • @TheEchelon
      @TheEchelon 11 місяців тому +8

      @@hyperluminalreality1 Why are you so bitter dude? Like damn lol

    • @markopolo6959-h8f
      @markopolo6959-h8f 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TheEchelon Convenience is a bad thing apparently lol Heaven forbid if someone wants to try anything new or just get some fun tones to play around with

  • @Mr.Goldbar
    @Mr.Goldbar 11 місяців тому +7

    Honestly sounds like Fender made so much more effort with their own amps there.
    I'm glad we have the ToneX that's way cheaper and way better :)

  • @robistocco
    @robistocco 11 місяців тому +1

    I just bought a Fractal FM3, which is a lot cheaper than this or QC... Maybe my ears are just very easy to please buy the FM3 sounds absolutely great, I am A/B'ing it with my EVH 5150 III 50w and it sounds as good, feels as nice to play. Every tool is awesome nowadays, especially in a mix.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 11 місяців тому +2

    Short of picking one up just to mess with, I don't know why anyone would choose this over a QC, FX9, etc. They sound just as good (or better), have been out for YEARS now so all the bugs are worked out, and they cost the same. (I love how you pronounce "Cortex" "Cordex", too...🤣)

    • @CarlisleFox
      @CarlisleFox 11 місяців тому +1

      For me it is the user interface and controls set up, I've had a really hard time configuring my brain to work with other pedals and amps and this just sort of clicks for me. The workflow, that's the word I was looking for.

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s 11 місяців тому

      @@CarlisleFox I literally NEVER use it without it being plugged into a computer. I don't think I have ever touched the controls on the front besides changing an output setting once. People love to freak out about the UI on the front of the thing...never made sense to me. Guess they don't own computers.

  • @Gatecreeper69
    @Gatecreeper69 11 місяців тому +2

    Second hand kemper stage all day for me.

  • @dylanjames6781
    @dylanjames6781 11 місяців тому +2

    i really want to see more with the new fender speaker if anything!

  • @m00plank90
    @m00plank90 11 місяців тому

    I know my valeton gp200 is not anywhere near as good as these, but it’s not £1500 worse. I’m willing to bet that no audience member would tell the difference. It’s nice to have nice things, I get it, and if you’ve worked hard to be able to afford these things, I applaud you. But for us mortals, it’s just not justifiable or needed. It’s nice to see how the other half live, though and love the channel.

  • @hotbrakepads
    @hotbrakepads 10 місяців тому

    at the beginning of the video the amp sounds really good with your impulse response. not that it didn't sound good before in the first video, but it just sounds very natural after tweaking.

  • @MotoRiff77
    @MotoRiff77 11 місяців тому +1

    If bought the Fender it would be for the clean Fender amps and the EVH 5150, but I'm not sure it's worth moving from my Helix with Tonex in my loop

  • @chrisdigital
    @chrisdigital 11 місяців тому +2

    The DigiTech RP360 is a overlooked modeler. Try one before dumping $1700 on this folk's. It's not perfect, but you can get some great tones for under$200.

    • @Fergieguitar
      @Fergieguitar 11 місяців тому

      I've still got the RP1000 and it's a beast...cab Sims are a weakness but it's still a beast

  • @christopherrollason1369
    @christopherrollason1369 11 місяців тому +6

    I’d like Fender to have a Prosonic amp in there.

    • @jethrollinsodom
      @jethrollinsodom 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah - they should add their whole high gain stable: prosonic, MH-500, machete, sunn model T, super-sonic, evil twin and, obviously, the original tone master!

  • @nealpobrien
    @nealpobrien 8 місяців тому

    I thought the fender amp models sounded less muddy than your cortex sound, but I'm not a metal guy so could be wrong! Thanks for the review!

  • @sevoflurane2005
    @sevoflurane2005 11 місяців тому +2

    @ola thx for your reviews.
    love them.
    I am a week into my quad cortex and loving it. Desktop app is finally here!
    Q: do you have any presets or captures in the cortex cloud? if so can you share them? Would love to play around w some sounds you’ve come up with.
    🤘🏽

  • @nigelsmith721
    @nigelsmith721 11 місяців тому

    Drinking game -
    Take a shot every time Ola plays the open E and B strings 😎

  • @chrisx742
    @chrisx742 11 місяців тому +17

    I don't get it. All the high gain sounds are the same, with some differences in EQ. Are all the high gain models in the Tonemaster Pro virtually the same thing, or can metal players hear subtle differences between them?

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 11 місяців тому +4

      Metal players can hear the difference between high gain tones yes.

    • @kez850
      @kez850 11 місяців тому

      Keep in mind people will tweak it to make it as close to the sound in their head as possible no matter the amp

    • @claudevieaul1465
      @claudevieaul1465 11 місяців тому

      ​@@OttophilAbsolutely.
      At least, if it's just the amp you're listening to 😎👍
      I'm completely getting my overdrive from my amp, no additional Tubescreamer (or clones) needed - as these usually take away all the nuances between the various high gain amps 🤣🤣

    • @IloveRillettes
      @IloveRillettes 11 місяців тому

      They don't. They're close, yeah, but the grain of the amps differ a lot.

    • @deluxeg
      @deluxeg 11 місяців тому

      I think you do get it. What else would be different in an amp besides amount of distortion and EQ.

  • @johnwallace162
    @johnwallace162 11 місяців тому

    Hmmmmm , Im in a heavy rock originals band and really love my Gt1000 , the Xmodded amp and Jc120 are my go to with effects of course and the amps are brilliant recorded and Live . My opinion only .But I was not impressed with the headrush or kemper , and the price ,which is cheaper than most ,you get most of the boss effects ,so I haven't been disappointed with this unit ....

  • @theriffdjenerator2213
    @theriffdjenerator2213 11 місяців тому +1

    Bought one after your first demo!

  • @antoineleedolliole7549
    @antoineleedolliole7549 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude!!! That tone is my favorite I've heard so far, when you hit multiple strings and let them ring out those frequencies were jamming together instead of fighting to be heard.
    Just my opinion, the first tone you showed... All there!

  • @Eliphas_Elric
    @Eliphas_Elric 11 місяців тому +3

    Would like to know how the Silver Jubilee sounds.

  • @TarnishedViking.
    @TarnishedViking. 11 місяців тому

    Makes know sense sharpening your butter knives, So: I'd say, stick with something you know, is doing the job you want it to.

  • @sebastianibanez5027
    @sebastianibanez5027 11 місяців тому

    And your are interesting because u are navigate in diferents lands and have good points of views thanks u man...

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 11 місяців тому

    Would love to see a comparison vid!!...this thing, the QC and the FX9, in a mix and straight up!!

  • @antoineleedolliole7549
    @antoineleedolliole7549 11 місяців тому

    The only thing I want to hear right now is your FIRST preset with the dual rectifier low rumble. It vibrated my phone and headphones in the right ways but wasn't quite as good overall tone, to me, as the first one you made.

  • @michizer0
    @michizer0 11 місяців тому +3

    I dont know if it s my headphones but heard some nasty scratchy artefacts

  • @HaydenMcCarry
    @HaydenMcCarry 11 місяців тому +2

    Looked at quite a frew demos of this unit and it seems like the amp models dont actually sound 'like' the amps theyre meant to sound like ..

  • @QuoVadis88
    @QuoVadis88 11 місяців тому

    Next update for Tone Master Pro: Please include a Ducking Delay as on the Boss DD-200. It's my favorite delay. You can do it. Supersonic 22 amp head is great too. Also the '64 Custom Deluxe Reverb. MTG: LA Tube Distortion. '57 Custom Champ. Champ 25SE. Mesa Boogie Triple Crown Head. Roland Blues Cube Hot and Roland Blues Cube Hot British EL84 Modified. Mesa Boogie Fillmore 50. Boss Nextone Special. Try 10 minutes of two track like RC-500 Looper. Boss OC-5. Boss OD-200 Metal preset.

  • @VisceralDementia
    @VisceralDementia 11 місяців тому

    Got one and returned it. The form and the UI and amazing no doubts there. Scribble strips huge plus. The fender stuff sounded good, but everything else nope. the JCM800 was just bad, and the Mesa wasn't much better. For what it offers at its price it's just not worth it right now.

  • @jacy123
    @jacy123 11 місяців тому

    Nice overview!
    Seems really compressed sounding. Like the dynamics are smoosh. Not my thing. These kinda sounds used for Live, end up sounding like steam. Just harsh mush. More useful for getting processed sound for a mix but I like doing that processing my self so it can be custom tailored for each mix rather than always sounding so processed. Sometimes a raw amp with couple mics is all ya need.

  • @rybol71
    @rybol71 11 місяців тому

    New with touch screen and more user friendly operating system 👍

  • @gabrielstevens41
    @gabrielstevens41 11 місяців тому +13

    The Helix has that same problem with the Mk. It drives me nuts that it needs an OD to sound close to how it should

    • @dantredogborsa7048
      @dantredogborsa7048 11 місяців тому

      What?? But people usually talk about mark on helix having MORE gain than the real one, and thats my perception too. I don't use and OD with it

    • @gabrielstevens41
      @gabrielstevens41 11 місяців тому

      @dantredogborsa7048 it's not the gain, I can't get it tight without an od.

    • @dantredogborsa7048
      @dantredogborsa7048 11 місяців тому

      @@gabrielstevens41 Man, I can get it very tight, I like to play thrash, so you mind it... what pickup are you using?

    • @gabrielstevens41
      @gabrielstevens41 11 місяців тому

      @dantredogborsa7048 I like to play thrash too. They're hand wound, roughly 15k for the bridge. I just bought a St Rock Amperium and it has a mk ii c+ in it and there's no problem getting it to sound right without an OD for me.

    • @dantredogborsa7048
      @dantredogborsa7048 11 місяців тому

      @@gabrielstevens41 But maybe the Amperium is not as accurate to the original sound

  • @spankroy
    @spankroy 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't know, the Fender version of the Mark IV sounded good to me. Both of them sounded good to me for metal. I do think the 4 effects loops may be a bit overkill. I do prefer the UI of the Fender vs the Quad Cortex.

    • @TheEpicLinkFreeman
      @TheEpicLinkFreeman 11 місяців тому +2

      I think he was meaning to complain about the fact that it doesn't quite sound like the Mark series amps that he's played, because he has a lot of experience with them. He even admitted after he messed with it a bit that it "does sound pretty good". He was just nit-picking the accuracy of the sim.

    • @richardspillers6282
      @richardspillers6282 11 місяців тому

      Yeah it should sound like a mark series if that's what it's supposed to be. And it doesn't sound anything like a mark series.

  • @ayayayayayay2343
    @ayayayayayay2343 8 місяців тому

    Nice review, pretty handy since i'm about to buy my first floor processor and am still doubting between the quad cortex, the helix and this one. I have 0 experience with any of them but from what i hear im leaning towards qc at the moment. Its for gigs, mostly powermetal. Any advice is always welcome

  • @Ryan_Messenger
    @Ryan_Messenger 11 місяців тому +1

    Perfect timing. I just made my coffee and sat down to watch youtube videos

  • @OddoRocket
    @OddoRocket 11 місяців тому

    For me, i feel like out of all the modelers qc wins it, and tm pro a close second. Compared to other leading modelers, Qc and Tonemaster seem to be alot more user friendly, with less of a learning curve. You don’t need to learn alot of complex menus to get a good tone. It took me and my band’s guitarist like 10 minutes, if that, to make a rhythm patch on the qc.

  • @giannism-330r9
    @giannism-330r9 11 місяців тому

    Hi Ola, nice work as always! Thank you for your videos. Could you make a video or suggest some good amps and presets for metal in amplitube 5?

  • @Sispheor
    @Sispheor 3 місяці тому

    Hey @OlaEnglund! New firmware available for this unit!

  • @JoshuaLTRyan
    @JoshuaLTRyan 11 місяців тому

    I was hoping to see this post. :)

  • @crsantin
    @crsantin 11 місяців тому

    Only problem is Fender won’t support this by next year. Line 6 continues to update Helix rather significantly every year. This product seems like too little too late.

  • @hyperluminalreality1
    @hyperluminalreality1 11 місяців тому +4

    If every single Fender tweed and blackface 60's amp was in there then it would be worth it. "Here is a digital modeller so you can get away from individual component analog gear....but have 4 loops for individual pieces of stand alone component analog gear. Seems contradictory. That touch screen fail AFTER updating is a BIG problem. Deal killer. Faulty at the user interface is usually a death to sales, and creates a major return wave. Defective gear.
    How about doing a shootout of a Tubescreamer with their model of it inside the box? Test their heads against real amplifiers to see if the sound and tactical feel is identical at volume. Robert baker said the tactical touch response feel is not there compared to his real Fender amps from the 1960's. I don't care if every touring act uses a digital modeller with MIDI switching and computer control. I will still stay with what got us all here. Simple vacuum tube circuits. Not microprocessor chips with several billion transistors that look like Tron cities inside, just to try and achieve the same thing and fail..TUBES!

  • @walterwestermeier2129
    @walterwestermeier2129 11 місяців тому

    its so interesting see these comparasion videos...the only problem is I still use Korg ToneWorks AX1G :´)

  • @svenandresen6494
    @svenandresen6494 11 місяців тому

    Did you ever heard of the St Rock Amperium? Would love to see you reviewing this unit. My post will be deleted if i put a link in here, so maybe you don´t mind to google for it. I know it is a not so well known device but the toneshaping features are outstanding and very unique and the soundquality of the amps are one of the best and comparable to axe fx and quad cortex

  • @whatizreality0124
    @whatizreality0124 11 місяців тому +7

    The price tag on these processors are pretty much out of reach for most ppl , especially if you're just playing for fun or just starting out . I put together an entire rig for under 700.00$ of older / used gear and it sounds great , some presets are actually better than these .
    My advice , shop around , do research and that way you don't have to take a personal LOAN out to get a decent sound .

    • @kez850
      @kez850 11 місяців тому

      You hit the nail on the head. If you require many different tones, advanced routing options, or an ultra portable rig then the modelers are for you. For most home players it’s overkill.

    • @abunai.j
      @abunai.j 11 місяців тому

      I agree, and beyond that even, this thing costs as much as established and proven gear like the Quad Cortex or Helix. If I'm going to spend upwards of $1600 on one of these, it's up to Fender to give me a real strong reason to go with theirs over other proven brands, and - for me at least - this thing hasn't done that.

  • @gilbertoacunabautista5150
    @gilbertoacunabautista5150 11 місяців тому

    Calificacion 7 de fender tone master es una realidad para empezar.

  • @sebastianibanez5027
    @sebastianibanez5027 11 місяців тому

    I love your new re visited is so good is well explained is so usefull thanks and sound amazing

  • @JoeBaermann
    @JoeBaermann 11 місяців тому

    Ola, or a capture feature?
    If you did watch what Fender’s rep said durring the demo at Andertons, you would have heard that they didn’t capture amps, they are virtual models, as where the most accurate ones took several months to get right.
    So I doubt that adding a capture feature even is possible.

  • @RodVonLongrod
    @RodVonLongrod 11 місяців тому +7

    I'll wait until Fender gives this unit the profiling/capture feature it should have always had.

    • @aaronhiggs
      @aaronhiggs 11 місяців тому +1

      Buy a kemper at that point.

    • @johnpacino4491
      @johnpacino4491 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@aaronhiggs kemper is good but, it was outdated like 5 years ago... Other units can do the same as kemper + 5 times more stuff for same price and cheaper.

    • @algorithm007ify
      @algorithm007ify 11 місяців тому +1

      Silver Jubilee sounds great in the TMP

  • @bjornandersson3837
    @bjornandersson3837 11 місяців тому

    Bra video Ola!

  • @rumy6871
    @rumy6871 11 місяців тому +1

    Ola, when you added the new firmware, did you factory reset the device? That was in the instructions. It should clear up those bugs.

  • @kencreten7308
    @kencreten7308 11 місяців тому +1

    I think it sounds phenomenal and the paucity of patches will be promptly repaired.

  • @avadhutgita2067
    @avadhutgita2067 11 місяців тому

    Amphub for the win ! only $10 a month

  • @scottdavidcameron5615
    @scottdavidcameron5615 11 місяців тому

    Bought the Fractal AX8 awhile ago but just couldn’t get with the amp/cab sounds. Just not the same IMO. I still use it though in 4 cable method for effects and midi switching. Wish there was a product that only did this w/o all the amp/cab modeling!

  • @kmbs4913
    @kmbs4913 11 місяців тому +7

    It's a really bad strategy to release a product that needs such basic fixes. I can only speculate on how many people refrain from buying and have a negative attitude towards the product. Buyers should not have to act as QA. Do again do right.

  • @brunorodriguezb.957
    @brunorodriguezb.957 10 місяців тому

    Ok, but to be clear. This pedal is like a Quadcortex, Ax FX, Kemper or the Tonex, right? It has captured the sound of real amplifiers and then plays thru the pedal?

  • @mattz1686
    @mattz1686 11 місяців тому +2

    What’s with all the high end fizz on the high gain models. Aliasing?

  • @davidscarios
    @davidscarios 10 місяців тому

    Sounds AMAZING !! O.o

  • @cardonasaltandlight1418
    @cardonasaltandlight1418 11 місяців тому +4

    Imagine if some guitarist spent more time getting better at playing their instrument and crafting good music instead of chasing after the next gadget.?!🤨 Good video Ola✌️

    • @Kiwaloayo
      @Kiwaloayo 11 місяців тому

      some older musicians where I shop put it best, these new amps are great simply because they make transporting easier and simpler. you've got all your pedals and your amps right there, and don't have to worry about carrying anything. we feel bad for our drummers who take thinks up and down stairs though lol

  • @kevyndante3664
    @kevyndante3664 11 місяців тому +2

    Fractal Audio for life

  • @fattohead
    @fattohead 11 місяців тому +1

    Am I wrong or does this device reminds the TC Electronic G-system visually, like round edges and that angled verticaly deep chassis etc etc? 🤔

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 11 місяців тому +1

    Not to mention the fact that it's quite pricey too.

  • @mksxntwr
    @mksxntwr 11 місяців тому +1

    Good old Nolly Archetype sounds much fuller then Tone Master Pro. Here i can hear some harsh in high frequencies and lack of the mids

  • @wafflemanofficial3130
    @wafflemanofficial3130 11 місяців тому +3

    When the toans quality wears off after a week

  • @koryanderson2183
    @koryanderson2183 11 місяців тому

    I’ve owned 2 fender cyber twin amps in the past, still have one but it sucks just like the first one did, not doing fender amplification anymore

  • @Lechamayama
    @Lechamayama 11 місяців тому

    Hey, you said Fender Tone Master Pro is going back after review, and now you say that you will maybe tour with it? So, guys from Fender let you keep this one? 😉