The 4K performance is the reason I use 1440p High settings and limit the FPS to 120 on my TI Super. That way I have overhead in graphicly challenged sections in game.
@@Jakiyyyyy taa is temporal AA. DLAA is AI driven temporal AA. DLAA or DLSS usually never oversharpens anything. DLAA is legitimately far better than simple TAA. It is just like FRS vs DLSS. Nvidia produces an image true to form and the others produce a decent image but not as true to original input image.
Anything would help my lagging behind with my rx 580 8gv :) I'm having to play Halo Infinite on all low settings - will the 4070 ti super let me crank up all the settings? I'll be looking into that after my PC gets built. I'm wanting to put that $200 on a 4k oled screen; it's a thousand damn dollars!
@@KingdomUploader Oh congrats on purchase, 4k Oled is huge, the card itself will be able to run it 4k ultra, just be sure the other parts won't ruin it for you ;)
The performance difference isn't huge, but it's not small either. I saw 30% performance difference in some games (42fps vs 55fps in Cyberpunk) and even OC'ing the 4070tiSuper to 3GHz cant close the gap.
Bear in mind that a lot of people have already achieved near the same performance of the 4080S on their 4070Ti S with a good undervolt+OC, meaning you can save 200-300 bucks by choosing the 4070Ti S and _still_ get the same level of performance. And also most of these games could reach the 100+ FPS mark by just disabling RT since it doesn't improve anything (personal opinion) and cuts your FPS by half or more.
@@Noxilar Whatever improvements it makes you won't notice them overtime and its just going to be a resource hog. All of these games look great already without it and only enthusiasts really care.
Just got an 5700X3D with a 4080 S with all the research 4080S vs 4070tis is very close! Honestly and the 200$ steep but it some ways it justifiable now when I hook up my pc to my new 4k OLED I should be able to run most my games max out if my 2060S could play BF2042 @60 fps 4k dlss I’m pretty sure I can run max out native now! Coming from an ryzen 3600 btw I thought about am5 but I’m not there yet. I feel like I can play the next batch of releases coming in the next few years. Kinda thought of gta6 when buying 😂 this my first upgrade after 5 years so planning on going another
AD103, same as the 4080's. 16GB, same as the 4080's. I think the 70 Ti Super is a better value than both the 4070 Super and 4080 Super. The star of this comparison is the 7800X3D.
Si estas armando tu primer PC lo mas sabio es escoger la 4070 Ti Super, y en unos años si quieres invertir para un cambio realmente notorio compras una 4090 o de las nuevas que existan para ese entonces ya que probablemente tendran buen dinero para esos tiempos.
I’m happy I got a 4080super more than enough vram for all my games and if I decide to upgrade again the 4080super will be excellent in my second pc build because of the av1 chip it has on board.
@@ZachalZockt idk where you get that from. The 4070 ti super uses similar power as the 4070 ti. The super ti super ti super is very efficient. Mine undervolted to the exact same performance at 80% power. Around 225 watt full til
@@christophermullins7163 i get that from real facts and not undervolting. 4080 S in 4k ~10-20W more but ~8fps more is great. And in other games, same powerusage for more fps means more efficient
@@christophermullins7163 stop talking nonsense undervolting blabla because every card is different. 99% buyer using it out of the box normal. i hope you trust Gamernexus. Watch his Video: "4070 ti Super GPU Review" 4070 Super + on top, the NORMAL NON Super 4080 in fps/power efficiency.
I just can't see myself buying the 4080 Super simply because for the bang for the bucks, the 4070 Ti is much better but then most people would probably just get the 4070 Super if it was between that and the 4070 Ti as the 4070 Super is the real bang for the bucks loved by many that the 4080 should have been. I have always gotten the 80 Ti series but unfortunately I couldn't find the 3080 Ti in time so just did the 3080 and I am still very surprise at how well it runs any applications and games I throw at it that I am even hesitant to get the 4070 ti. But, if I do get the 4070 Ti then it will be because it was on sale saving at least $100 to $200. Then I'll get the i9 14th gen on sale as well and make my now desktop with the i7 13th gen and 3080 into an ITX computer to be a PS5 Killer in the living room. I am leaning on the 4070 Super or the 4070 Ti super at the moment.
If anybody notices the 4080 super utilizes more of it's vram so you are actually getting better benefits and more textures not being scrubbed. Like in games using 10gb it's using 11 instead. It's as if the 4070 ti is still reacting like a 4070 super ans scrubbing some things away.
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 that's not the point of what I said. Point is if you have the vram it utilizes it. Everyone goes oh my 10gb card only utilizes 8gb most of the time. That's because it won't utilize much more it doesn't mean the game doesn't have it. Many act as if they never use 10gb which the card won't let happen anyways. Thats all I'm saying. But it's weird the 4070 ti super is still getting limited when it shouldn't be.
I got the 4080 super. I think it's the bare minimum for 4k gaming. 4k gaming just isn't feasible for most people right now. When my build is completely done I will have probably over 5K in it, not doable for most people that have a life. I don't use ray tracing though and usually can game at 4K 144hz, I can't stand anything under 120 hz
@BreckThePanther that's kind a weird, since you can buy most of the prebuilded systems with 13900k - 14900k and 4090 for the price around $3500 right now
Mate I was gaming on a 980ti before upscaling was a thing. It's like people have forgotten how to tweak settings these days. 4080 S is bare minimum 😂😂😂😂. You probably should have stuck to a 1440p monitor or better yet 1080 so you will never drop below 120hz
get the 4070ti Super, save $200 and use to get a good CPU. simple. Honestly the 4070 ti super screams 1440p ultra settings for me more then 4k. Edit: forgot to mention but another alternative GPU is the 7900xt. It's nearly $100 cheaper and does just as good as the 4070 ti super at raster performance.
yeah same i play at 1440 w the 4070ti super and a 7700x best combo tbh all of my games maxed w dlss 140-180 fps in most games ive tested (plague tale, spider-man remastered, dead space remake. and all can play 4k in the mid 80s-90s
just after release, I pointed out that this TiS will be the go-to refresh card. And ppl were trying to argue about 4080S being the better choice. After few weeks, the big retailers and shops posted their numbers and I was satisfied that I was right. Cause yeah, for 800 you finaly got the needed performance and 16 GB of VRAM, plus all the "green stuff"... so yeah, this is the card. Still, I wouldnt complain if the price would drop down a bit, but it was rarely seen under 780 bucks if ever and for the performance, Jensen doesnt need to put the price down, sadly...
Yeah, 👍 Jensen is one big Troll. Every time he uses his same black leather Jacket 🧥. When on presentation events. NVIDIA is one big greedy 😔 company. They always claimed to be on the players side. But they are more interesting 🤔 in making profit. The biggest portion they got comes, from the big commerce with their Tensor AI cores. Many big players bought thousands of them. Microsoft/ Amazon/ Google. I hope 🙏 sincerely, AMD will be launching her new RDNA-5 GPUs with better competitive prices. If the rumors are right 👍, one card with the performance of the RX 7900 XT, Will come for the half price. As the actually has. So 730 : 2 = 365€ Euros.
ryzen 7 9700x. Just wait a few more days for it to come out. Get an AM5 motherboard with the BIOS Flashback feature, just in case the BIOS on the motherboard has not been updated, and you're all set. There is also the Ryzen 7 7800x3d. No Intel, and hard pass on AM4 processors. I'm not a fan of any brand, but Intel is dragging their feet in resolving Raptor Lake CPU failures. Otherwise the Core i7-12700k or kf are viable options, but they don't have the strong upgrade path the socket AM5 platform has.
I could say that the performance between these two are close, but I can say the same to the RTX 4070 SUPER. Though the 4070 SUPER only has 12GB of VRAM but it's priced at $600.
It's not just the VRAM, the 4070 Ti Super uses the same die as the 4080, it also has double AV1 encoders and the same Bus Width. It's quite literally a 4080 with a few cores disabled.
Can someone please tell me which screen overlay software is this I'm using msi afterburner but it can't show all details like this way This is too good❤❤❤
lol 30 or less fps with ray tracing. What a joke, People who talk about ray tracing are silly. No one can even run it yet at 4k native , why even try. Nvidia has people brainwashed lol ROFL
@@someperson1829 Netflix, UA-cam 4k 8K HDR videos, other streaming. etc. Has to be 4k. 1440 is blurry, 1080 is horrible. 4k is so sharp, once you go there, you wont go back. I can tell if a video is not 4k and it bothers my eyes i'ts so blurry. Low quality 4k even looks bad to me. YOLO and we only have so much time on this earth.
@@FrostyBud777 1440p looks nice for a 27' PC monitor. If we are talking about some huge TV that hangs on the wall, then yes, 4K is required. But I don't think that huge TV is a good idea for gaming to begin with. Also worth noticing the fact that everything looks blury which is lower than a native resolution of the monitor. For example, native 1440p on 27' monitor is looking sharp, while 1440p on native 4K 27' monitor will look blury.
Should i buy 3080 8gb laptop 100w or 4060 8gb laptop but there is two option 75w and 120w.which one is better for 1080p gaming at max setting for next 3 to 4 years?
Bro some advice. When you do a Nvidia graphics comparison again you should use DLSS (AND DLSS3) if possible, we are paying for the complete hardware, not just the raster one.
These are no 4K cards for recent and future games. They will do however really good in 1440p, incorrectly known as 2K (it's actually over 2.5K - 2560×1440).
Yeah I never get why ppl consider them being a 4k card, while a 4090 can barely play games like alan wake 2 in 4k with max settings AND DLSS quality AND Frame gen (60-70 fps). No way a 4080 can hit playable framerates there and in games like hogwarts legacy/cp2077 in 4k. Those cards are good 1440p cards. The only barely minimum 4k card in my opinion is the 4090. Amd doesn't have any 4k card because of their bad rt power, you can only play old games on that shit. Maybe the 5090 is gonna be decent for 4k, but still needs heavy DLSS and fg.
When it comes to raster performance, the XTX is slightly faster than the 4080 Super. When it comes to RT performance, it gets annihilated. I would choose the 7900 XTX for pure raster performance and the 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super for ray traced games.
@Gamer-q7v bro we don't care even if it were entirely true (with much worse temps, power draw, GPU size in cases, much less and weaker features outside of gaming let alone raster) this is a video about team green's GPUs not red vs. green why do team reds try make every green video about them 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@tmanxult003 I was just saying that the 7900 XTX is the better performer overall in rasterized games, and the 4080 SUPER is better in ray traced games, power efficiency, and upscaling. I was just stating the truth. It's not about being biased towards one GPU compared to the other. It has absolutely nothing to do with this stupid fanboy shit. What it was wrong with recommending the 7900 XTX if you only care about raster performance? Especially if it's cheaper than the 4080 SUPER, which it is in most regions. Overall, both are solid GPUs with robust 4K performance.
Here is my classification of the current gpu market: Broke gamers- 4060/7600 Semi broke gamers- 4070, 7800/7900 GRE Shitty gamers- 4080/4090/ 7900xtx Gays: Intel Arc
Get a 144hz 2K monitor, they are very affordable now. The RTX 4070 Ti Super isn't that good for 4K gaming, it is a 1440p GPU anyway. Monitors beyond 144hz are a waste of money, there is no way your GPU could run the latest AAA titles on 1440p above 144 FPS. You would get very little to no benefit from the higher refresh rate, better spend the difference on an extra SSD drive.
@@mitsuhh idk, you can play whatever game you want at 4k with even the 4070ti super. Adjustments to the settings and DLSS will be needed in the newest of games. Then again, no one is not going to notice, or barely notice the difference, between 4k Ultra and 4k High settings.
It actually isn't €200 more expensive, but more like €350/500 more expensive over here actually. Im overseas in Europe, Netherlands to be more exact. Crypto hype is gone, scalpers are gone and NVDIA is actually offering quite decent value for money... Guess what, were being screwed over by retailers now 😂. They dont offer discounts on the non S variants they sell it for the same price, they do mark up the prices of the S variants tho... Was able to find a pny rtx 4070 ti super xlr8 gaming triple fan OC edition in a deep deep discount for €870. Prices for a 4070 ti super range between €950/1150.
If building a new PC for 4k gaming I think I'd spend more on the 4080 Super and just get a cheaper CPU and RAM. I understand that testing CPUs at 1080p reveals its true performance, but it would still be very helpful if there were more benchmarks including 4k showing at what resolution the CPU doesn't affect gaming performance.
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@mitsuhh say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed vid “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram 0bsolete 😂
@@amirmohammad527 I have 4k 144hz. Dlss looks insanely good on 4k. In some games.. dlss performance looks as good as fsr quality. This really puts the smackdown on the value argument that "AMD gives you more performance". If your upscaling looks good enough.. that is in essence additional performance. FRS is just blurry and simultaneously over sharpened.
@@amirmohammad527 they are 2 independent technologies so they don't really effect each other but yeah.. you need to use them together to get the best balance of visuals and performance. RT is still a little gimmicky as it doesn't always look better than rasterization. Sometimes it's really beautiful
am still deciding between the 4070tiS and the 4080S. The 4070tiS is cheaper, but if I'm going to pay $800 anyway, I might as well pay an extra $200 for the 4080S. The 4080S seems to be about 10fps faster on average, but sometimes that 10-13fps translates into a 30% relative performance difference (42fps vs 55 fps) and knowing that makes me want to go with the faster card. I still have three days to decide.
if anything it should make you realize that if your going with nvidia if you at all plan to use dlss or frame gen these numbers literally dont matter both gpus hit well above 120 -160 fps in most to all games at 1440 (i think gaming at 4k is still to demanding in most recent titles anyways) so save ur money. and if you just want raw raster performance then go with the 7900xt/xtx
@chancifer_ According to the techpowerup the 7900XTX is 4% faster in raster (based on 25 games tested) compared to the standard 4080S, and only 1% compared to gigabyte model. Just 1% is not a meaningful difference to me, but a 125% difference in heavy RT workloads is certainly noticeable. I would feel bad trying to save $100 just to have a much inferior experience in RT games for the next few years (the 4080S has up to 125% better performance in heavy RT workloads). The 7900XTX also consumes much more power and has inferior upscaling technology. Undervolted 4080S only consume 260W max (usually between 180-220W), so I'm not even sure I'd save 100$ in the long run by choosing the 7900XTX. The AMD experience is definitely not for me. AMD makes amazing CPUs (I am happy with their 7800X3D CPU), but when it comes to GPUs, Nvidia is clearly on another level. Yes, Nvidia cards are more expensive, but I'm willing to pay more just to be perfectly happy with my purchase. Both the 4070tiS and 4080S will be a big upgrade over my 8-year-old GTX1080, so I know I will be happy no matter which model I choose.
Wrong, the 4080 Super is 15% faster, no more no less. That's all you're getting for the 200$ extra since everything else about these GPUs is the same. It's a 42 vs 48-49 FPS situation.
I went with 4080S, out of the same logic. If I'm to spend a big buck, then might as well go a little extra for a better card. The extra money for extra performance is still reasonable to go with 4080S, unlike extremely overpriced 4090.
Games :
Starfield - 0:00
Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty - 0:56
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 1:55
Alan Wake 2 - 2:56
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:55
Forza Horizon 5 - 4:46
Senua's Saga Hellblade II - 5:41
Ghost of Tsushima - 6:28
Horizon Forbidden West - 7:23
Hogwarts Legacy - 8:21
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The 4K performance is the reason I use 1440p High settings and limit the FPS to 120 on my TI Super.
That way I have overhead in graphicly challenged sections in game.
Use DLAA instead of TAA when it's supported. DLAA is far superior to garabge TAA.
DLAA also use some sort of temporal technique. The only difference is that DLAA applies the sharpening after that. 🤷♀
@@Jakiyyyyy taa is temporal AA. DLAA is AI driven temporal AA. DLAA or DLSS usually never oversharpens anything. DLAA is legitimately far better than simple TAA. It is just like FRS vs DLSS. Nvidia produces an image true to form and the others produce a decent image but not as true to original input image.
MSAA/SSAA master race
@@OneFreeMan17 8xMSAA gang
I'm certain people who think dlss is just taa with sharpening have never used an rtx card
i love my 4070ti Super, it will serve me for the upcoming years
Same
It's a beast of a card, way more than I need for the time being haha.
Anything would help my lagging behind with my rx 580 8gv :) I'm having to play Halo Infinite on all low settings - will the 4070 ti super let me crank up all the settings? I'll be looking into that after my PC gets built.
I'm wanting to put that $200 on a 4k oled screen; it's a thousand damn dollars!
@@KingdomUploader Oh congrats on purchase, 4k Oled is huge, the card itself will be able to run it 4k ultra, just be sure the other parts won't ruin it for you ;)
@@UnitedByMusic2 workin on it. Thanks!
The difference is 6 fps, the price is $200, which means that each fps is sold to you for $33
I looked and saw 15%
I looked and saw 20 fps, 6Fps when 30-35 😂
that's nvidia for you
I think it’s better to take a 4070 ti s and save 200 bucks, the difference in performance is very small
15% more performance for 25% more money. I bought the 4070 super ti super ti superdooper tie tie
That's what I have been thinking. 4070 Ti Super Ti is the best all rounders GPU. 🤷♀
16$ a month vs 20$ a month if you keep it for 4 years. 4080 super is worth the extra 200 in my view if you're already spending 800
The performance difference isn't huge, but it's not small either. I saw 30% performance difference in some games (42fps vs 55fps in Cyberpunk) and even OC'ing the 4070tiSuper to 3GHz cant close the gap.
@@Jakiyyyyy that why i got one
We want ryzen 4070 benchmarks
It's awesome that this is everywhere
@@PlatinmumPlays yeah keep spreading stupidity you guys doing mankind an huge favor!
Where did it came from?@@PlatinmumPlays
@@eNv3n0mX Zach's teck turf
500 fps 0.1% low cyberpunk 2077 8k ultra graphics
We need funny and better optimize game... Not another gpu.
After 2020-2021 I have trouble finding the passion to play almost every game.
Cause all games after 2021 are shit and unoptimized
@@mongolianlambhoof I know
Literally same, I only play helldivers 2 nowadays, legit the best fun game right now
@@UwU-ik5urI need to look into em I remember the mini controversy when I was considering buying at the time how the state of the game now?
i just play e-sports
Bear in mind that a lot of people have already achieved near the same performance of the 4080S on their 4070Ti S with a good undervolt+OC, meaning you can save 200-300 bucks by choosing the 4070Ti S and _still_ get the same level of performance. And also most of these games could reach the 100+ FPS mark by just disabling RT since it doesn't improve anything (personal opinion) and cuts your FPS by half or more.
if RT doesn't improve anything for you, you better grab those $200 and go get your eyes checked :)
@@Noxilar Whatever improvements it makes you won't notice them overtime and its just going to be a resource hog. All of these games look great already without it and only enthusiasts really care.
Now what if you do the same on your 4080s
@@AAlgeria Then you'd probably reach 4090 performance but you'd have to pay extra for it though
@@Ark_Strike Yeah, but I have the budget, should I get it?
Just got an 5700X3D with a 4080 S with all the research 4080S vs 4070tis is very close! Honestly and the 200$ steep but it some ways it justifiable now when I hook up my pc to my new 4k OLED I should be able to run most my games max out if my 2060S could play BF2042 @60 fps 4k dlss I’m pretty sure I can run max out native now! Coming from an ryzen 3600 btw I thought about am5 but I’m not there yet. I feel like I can play the next batch of releases coming in the next few years. Kinda thought of gta6 when buying 😂 this my first upgrade after 5 years so planning on going another
The difference in 1440p is even bigger. But 4k numbers are alresdy low so 75 fps compared to 60fps is actually a massive difference.
AD103, same as the 4080's.
16GB, same as the 4080's.
I think the 70 Ti Super is a better value than both the 4070 Super and 4080 Super.
The star of this comparison is the 7800X3D.
Looks like neither card is much good at 4K so might as well for for the 4070 Ti S and play at 1440p.
He tested 4K with path tracing..
I just use DLSS for 4k. Nobody is playing these games at native 4k, that would be absurd.
Take the 4070 ti and use that 200 bucks to buy a CPU....
how poor are you haha
@@clairvoyance7424and how dumb are you
Lol what kind of a shit comment is this.
@@clairvoyance7424 how unpleasant you are
There is no CPU for 200 that's worth putting a 4070 ti super on.
Si estas armando tu primer PC lo mas sabio es escoger la 4070 Ti Super, y en unos años si quieres invertir para un cambio realmente notorio compras una 4090 o de las nuevas que existan para ese entonces ya que probablemente tendran buen dinero para esos tiempos.
I’m happy I got a 4080super more than enough vram for all my games and if I decide to upgrade again the 4080super will be excellent in my second pc build because of the av1 chip it has on board.
4070 Ti S : Performance /Wattage compared to the 4080 S isnt great
4080 S : Performance /Money compared to the 4070 Ti S isnt great
@@ZachalZockt idk where you get that from. The 4070 ti super uses similar power as the 4070 ti. The super ti super ti super is very efficient. Mine undervolted to the exact same performance at 80% power. Around 225 watt full til
@@christophermullins7163 i get that from real facts and not undervolting. 4080 S in 4k ~10-20W more but ~8fps more is great.
And in other games, same powerusage for more fps means more efficient
@@christophermullins7163 im at 2850 @1050v mine doesnt go above 220w in cyberpunk
Yeah you obviously do not know what you're talking about but ok.
@@christophermullins7163 stop talking nonsense undervolting blabla because every card is different. 99% buyer using it out of the box normal. i hope you trust Gamernexus. Watch his Video: "4070 ti Super GPU Review" 4070 Super + on top, the NORMAL NON Super 4080 in fps/power efficiency.
Bought a 4070 Ti Super lightly used for $600 . At this price point, it is an epic deal.
why is the 4070 ti super using the same power but lower perf, makes no sense
I just can't see myself buying the 4080 Super simply because for the bang for the bucks, the 4070 Ti is much better but then most people would probably just get the 4070 Super if it was between that and the 4070 Ti as the 4070 Super is the real bang for the bucks loved by many that the 4080 should have been. I have always gotten the 80 Ti series but unfortunately I couldn't find the 3080 Ti in time so just did the 3080 and I am still very surprise at how well it runs any applications and games I throw at it that I am even hesitant to get the 4070 ti. But, if I do get the 4070 Ti then it will be because it was on sale saving at least $100 to $200. Then I'll get the i9 14th gen on sale as well and make my now desktop with the i7 13th gen and 3080 into an ITX computer to be a PS5 Killer in the living room. I am leaning on the 4070 Super or the 4070 Ti super at the moment.
If anybody notices the 4080 super utilizes more of it's vram so you are actually getting better benefits and more textures not being scrubbed.
Like in games using 10gb it's using 11 instead. It's as if the 4070 ti is still reacting like a 4070 super ans scrubbing some things away.
It's almost as if they named these cards in order of their capabilities or something.
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 that's not the point of what I said. Point is if you have the vram it utilizes it. Everyone goes oh my 10gb card only utilizes 8gb most of the time. That's because it won't utilize much more it doesn't mean the game doesn't have it. Many act as if they never use 10gb which the card won't let happen anyways. Thats all I'm saying.
But it's weird the 4070 ti super is still getting limited when it shouldn't be.
I got the 4080 super. I think it's the bare minimum for 4k gaming. 4k gaming just isn't feasible for most people right now. When my build is completely done I will have probably over 5K in it, not doable for most people that have a life. I don't use ray tracing though and usually can game at 4K 144hz, I can't stand anything under 120 hz
your 4080at 4k wont give you 144hz on maxed graphics, my monitor is almost half the price of ur pc, i have a life, stop trying to be elite
@@gmims7255 which one are you using?
@BreckThePanther that's kind a weird, since you can buy most of the prebuilded systems with 13900k - 14900k and 4090 for the price around $3500 right now
Mate I was gaming on a 980ti before upscaling was a thing. It's like people have forgotten how to tweak settings these days. 4080 S is bare minimum 😂😂😂😂. You probably should have stuck to a 1440p monitor or better yet 1080 so you will never drop below 120hz
Testing graphics cards on msfs 2020 for sure is a big reason to follow your channel.
get the 4070ti Super, save $200 and use to get a good CPU. simple.
Honestly the 4070 ti super screams 1440p ultra settings for me more then 4k.
Edit: forgot to mention but another alternative GPU is the 7900xt. It's nearly $100 cheaper and does just as good as the 4070 ti super at raster performance.
yeah same i play at 1440 w the 4070ti super and a 7700x best combo tbh all of my games maxed w dlss 140-180 fps in most games ive tested (plague tale, spider-man remastered, dead space remake. and all can play 4k in the mid 80s-90s
with a far less advanced software tho
just after release, I pointed out that this TiS will be the go-to refresh card. And ppl were trying to argue about 4080S being the better choice.
After few weeks, the big retailers and shops posted their numbers and I was satisfied that I was right. Cause yeah, for 800 you finaly got the needed performance and 16 GB of VRAM, plus all the "green stuff"... so yeah, this is the card. Still, I wouldnt complain if the price would drop down a bit, but it was rarely seen under 780 bucks if ever and for the performance, Jensen doesnt need to put the price down, sadly...
Yeah, 👍 Jensen is one big Troll. Every time he uses his same black leather Jacket 🧥. When on presentation events.
NVIDIA is one big greedy 😔 company. They always claimed to be on the players side. But they are more interesting 🤔 in making profit.
The biggest portion they got comes, from the big commerce with their Tensor AI cores. Many big players bought thousands of them. Microsoft/ Amazon/ Google.
I hope 🙏 sincerely, AMD will be launching her new RDNA-5 GPUs with better competitive prices. If the rumors are right 👍, one card with the performance of the RX 7900 XT, Will come for the half price. As the actually has. So 730 : 2 = 365€ Euros.
Very nice
Ti isn’t much difference and it’s a monster I had the card sold it cause I wanna get a 5070 hope I made the right choice
Looks like if you drop settings to medium / high most of the games are playable at native 4k and very good framerate with DLSS with the 4070 Ti
Very nice
Bought the 4070 TI Super Windforce OC for 685€ here in Germany.
Now im waiting for the 9000X3D big Upgrade from my 7500f.
Aber du hast die gebraucht gekauft ? Neu gibt es die nicht wirklich unter 700€
@@droddel123 Nein habe Sie mit Gigabyte Cashback und Shoop zu dem Preis neu gekauft.
RTX 5060 Super in the future next?
I think it will be the same as 4070/4070s/3080 but with 8-10gb
I achieve 200fps rtz 2080 ryzen 7 2700x 2000mhz ram with lossless scaling 💀💀💀
I feel like there's no 4K ultra settings 60FPS card, it's just 30FPS cards with DLSS for newer Triple A games
me when Testing games upload:
The King!!! the King!!!
why though, i dont do benches, just informing how certain specs run on my games
10% increase in perfomance for 25% increase in price problably not worth.
no, 15% increase in performance for 50% increase in price in India. I dunno which gpu to buy, should i really pay 2.5k INR for per fps ?
4070 ti super best gpu for performance 800$ and gddr6x
nvidia need to put a 4070 ti super with normal gddr6 at 600$
Bro you put a 60 hz refresh rate....
Ryzen 4070 Solos both of these cards
Do Ryzen 4070?
Flight simulator Please^^
Which CPU should I pair a 4070 super with?
5700x3d or 5800x3d (AM4), 7800x3d (AM5), AMD cpu all the ways
ryzen 7 9700x. Just wait a few more days for it to come out. Get an AM5 motherboard with the BIOS Flashback feature, just in case the BIOS on the motherboard has not been updated, and you're all set. There is also the Ryzen 7 7800x3d.
No Intel, and hard pass on AM4 processors.
I'm not a fan of any brand, but Intel is dragging their feet in resolving Raptor Lake CPU failures. Otherwise the Core i7-12700k or kf are viable options, but they don't have the strong upgrade path the socket AM5 platform has.
i7 13700k
Alan wake 2 only 25 FPS? I was thinking of getting a 4070 ti s to play this game. But this is bs…
yep at 4k , even the 4090 cant achieve native 60+ in alan wake 2 without frame gen
I think better take rtx 4070 😅
I could say that the performance between these two are close, but I can say the same to the RTX 4070 SUPER. Though the 4070 SUPER only has 12GB of VRAM but it's priced at $600.
It's not just the VRAM, the 4070 Ti Super uses the same die as the 4080, it also has double AV1 encoders and the same Bus Width. It's quite literally a 4080 with a few cores disabled.
@@verde5738 And less cache
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Of course.... and Tree Bike Suspension Green Peanut Shiny
Can someone please tell me which screen overlay software is this
I'm using msi afterburner but it can't show all details like this way
This is too good❤❤❤
You have to combine the data from afterburner with "rivatuner". Look on youtube how it works^^
lol 30 or less fps with ray tracing. What a joke, People who talk about ray tracing are silly. No one can even run it yet at 4k native , why even try. Nvidia has people brainwashed lol ROFL
Why do you need 4K for gaming though? lol. Cards are not ready for 4K. It's fine on 1440p.
@@someperson1829 Netflix, UA-cam 4k 8K HDR videos, other streaming. etc. Has to be 4k. 1440 is blurry, 1080 is horrible. 4k is so sharp, once you go there, you wont go back. I can tell if a video is not 4k and it bothers my eyes i'ts so blurry. Low quality 4k even looks bad to me. YOLO and we only have so much time on this earth.
@@FrostyBud777 1440p looks nice for a 27' PC monitor. If we are talking about some huge TV that hangs on the wall, then yes, 4K is required. But I don't think that huge TV is a good idea for gaming to begin with. Also worth noticing the fact that everything looks blury which is lower than a native resolution of the monitor. For example, native 1440p on 27' monitor is looking sharp, while 1440p on native 4K 27' monitor will look blury.
Should i buy 3080 8gb laptop 100w or 4060 8gb laptop but there is two option 75w and 120w.which one is better for 1080p gaming at max setting for next 3 to 4 years?
Search up laptop gpu benchmarks
Ryzen 4070 beats all
Bro some advice. When you do a Nvidia graphics comparison again you should use DLSS (AND DLSS3) if possible, we are paying for the complete hardware, not just the raster one.
These are no 4K cards for recent and future games. They will do however really good in 1440p, incorrectly known as 2K (it's actually over 2.5K - 2560×1440).
Then 1920 x 1080 is 2K?
Yeah I never get why ppl consider them being a 4k card, while a 4090 can barely play games like alan wake 2 in 4k with max settings AND DLSS quality AND Frame gen (60-70 fps). No way a 4080 can hit playable framerates there and in games like hogwarts legacy/cp2077 in 4k. Those cards are good 1440p cards. The only barely minimum 4k card in my opinion is the 4090. Amd doesn't have any 4k card because of their bad rt power, you can only play old games on that shit. Maybe the 5090 is gonna be decent for 4k, but still needs heavy DLSS and fg.
That's why I went with 240Hz 1440p monitor. 4K is cool and all, but it's not for gaming yet.
@@Gamevet yes, and always has been
@@williehrmann 4080 runs AW2 at 4K just fine
RX 7900 XTX wins
When it comes to raster performance, the XTX is slightly faster than the 4080 Super. When it comes to RT performance, it gets annihilated. I would choose the 7900 XTX for pure raster performance and the 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super for ray traced games.
@Gamer-q7v bro we don't care even if it were entirely true (with much worse temps, power draw, GPU size in cases, much less and weaker features outside of gaming let alone raster) this is a video about team green's GPUs not red vs. green why do team reds try make every green video about them 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
what I hate of it is power consumption almost 400W
@@Chuck15 400~464w 😢
@@tmanxult003 I was just saying that the 7900 XTX is the better performer overall in rasterized games, and the 4080 SUPER is better in ray traced games, power efficiency, and upscaling. I was just stating the truth. It's not about being biased towards one GPU compared to the other. It has absolutely nothing to do with this stupid fanboy shit. What it was wrong with recommending the 7900 XTX if you only care about raster performance? Especially if it's cheaper than the 4080 SUPER, which it is in most regions. Overall, both are solid GPUs with robust 4K performance.
Nice pc
الفرق ليس كبير
Here is my classification of the current gpu market:
Broke gamers- 4060/7600
Semi broke gamers- 4070, 7800/7900 GRE
Shitty gamers- 4080/4090/ 7900xtx
Gays: Intel Arc
I recently bought PC with RTX 4070 super ti and R7 7800X3D. I have 1080p monitor, but I planning to switch it soon. Should I pick 2K or 4k monior?
I would go for a 360hz 1440P QD-OLED monitor. A good 4K monitor will run you about $1000.
@@anckx1143 I got a 4k 120hertz 76 inch tv I like it. Now i can look at 60 hertz or 1080p
Get a 144hz 2K monitor, they are very affordable now. The RTX 4070 Ti Super isn't that good for 4K gaming, it is a 1440p GPU anyway. Monitors beyond 144hz are a waste of money, there is no way your GPU could run the latest AAA titles on 1440p above 144 FPS. You would get very little to no benefit from the higher refresh rate, better spend the difference on an extra SSD drive.
2K ?
4080 is not a 4K card don't get fooled by NVidia
Great for 3440x1440 though
How isn't it a 4K card?
@@mitsuhh idk, you can play whatever game you want at 4k with even the 4070ti super. Adjustments to the settings and DLSS will be needed in the newest of games. Then again, no one is not going to notice, or barely notice the difference, between 4k Ultra and 4k High settings.
Yes it is
15% difference
CPU Air Coolers/ Water Liquid Coolers ???
Air
I dnt see games the same after playin over 360fps. Anything lower just feels like ur playing on a switch
Why should anyone buy such cards when you have ps5 with same performance and less price
Same performance 😂😂 ps5 plays first party games at 900p medium settings which you are comparing to 4k ultra LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
15-20% more performance for 200 usd more
15-20% more performance on a 2K PC is about 10% so it's still pretty good.
It actually isn't €200 more expensive, but more like €350/500 more expensive over here actually. Im overseas in Europe, Netherlands to be more exact.
Crypto hype is gone, scalpers are gone and NVDIA is actually offering quite decent value for money... Guess what, were being screwed over by retailers now 😂. They dont offer discounts on the non S variants they sell it for the same price, they do mark up the prices of the S variants tho...
Was able to find a pny rtx 4070 ti super xlr8 gaming triple fan OC edition in a deep deep discount for €870. Prices for a 4070 ti super range between €950/1150.
works out to be 30 bucks more per frame for 4080.
The difference is notable in the (ms)
Now benchmark the ryzen 4070 please
ill benchmark your mother!
If building a new PC for 4k gaming I think I'd spend more on the 4080 Super and just get a cheaper CPU and RAM. I understand that testing CPUs at 1080p reveals its true performance, but it would still be very helpful if there were more benchmarks including 4k showing at what resolution the CPU doesn't affect gaming performance.
first give me 4090
Both graphics cards are way to overpriced and slow. I would recommend to anyone wanting to buy a high end gpu to buy the ryzen 4070 instead
16gb for $800 gpu is a J0K3
Show me the game that requires more. Just a reminder - 3090 has 24GB, how the aging is going? lol
Show me a game that requires more
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@mitsuhh say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed vid “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram 0bsolete 😂
My 4070 ti super is perfect. I am so pleased with the performance. Sure id rather have paid $450 but that is just not the world we live in. 16gb 😊
16gb is very helpful in future especially for 1440p
@@amirmohammad527 I have 4k 144hz. Dlss looks insanely good on 4k. In some games.. dlss performance looks as good as fsr quality. This really puts the smackdown on the value argument that "AMD gives you more performance". If your upscaling looks good enough.. that is in essence additional performance. FRS is just blurry and simultaneously over sharpened.
@@christophermullins7163 How does ray tracing and dlss look when you use them at the same time?
@@amirmohammad527 they are 2 independent technologies so they don't really effect each other but yeah.. you need to use them together to get the best balance of visuals and performance. RT is still a little gimmicky as it doesn't always look better than rasterization. Sometimes it's really beautiful
@@christophermullins7163 Whatever, it's better than AMD
4 k sucks better 144 240 360 full hd heart monitor
Near same power draw but 4080 gives more fps.
What are the settings? DLSS On or off ?
man just look at the setting when he shows them
Now 7900 xt should be very close to 4080 . 4080 is 15 % faster than 4070 ti super and 7900 xt is also 7 % faster than 4070 ti super on raster .
No.
Alan Wake 2 💀
Plus 10-15 FPS for $200 more... seems like a deal.
*15% more FPS. Not 15 more FPS. So if the 4070 TiS is able to run a game at 60 FPS, then the 4080 S is going to run it at 69 FPS.
@@verde5738 So 10 FPS maximum 15 FPS regardless.
If you want to play in 4K for REAL, just buy the top card, ignore these period!
Everybody cant afford that better to wait for 50series
I play in 4k just fine on my 4080 super
@firstsonofthesea7938 you do know that's a top card,what do you expect,I'm impressed by the 4070ti which is a cooler/better rt/less vram 3090
Alan Wake II is terribly optimized game. Not cpu and gpu efficient game.
It will get more updates
am still deciding between the 4070tiS and the 4080S. The 4070tiS is cheaper, but if I'm going to pay $800 anyway, I might as well pay an extra $200 for the 4080S. The 4080S seems to be about 10fps faster on average, but sometimes that 10-13fps translates into a 30% relative performance difference (42fps vs 55 fps) and knowing that makes me want to go with the faster card. I still have three days to decide.
if anything it should make you realize that if your going with nvidia if you at all plan to use dlss or frame gen these numbers literally dont matter both gpus hit well above 120 -160 fps in most to all games at 1440 (i think gaming at 4k is still to demanding in most recent titles anyways) so save ur money. and if you just want raw raster performance then go with the 7900xt/xtx
I went for the 4080 Super when it was released.
@chancifer_ According to the techpowerup the 7900XTX is 4% faster in raster (based on 25 games tested) compared to the standard 4080S, and only 1% compared to gigabyte model. Just 1% is not a meaningful difference to me, but a 125% difference in heavy RT workloads is certainly noticeable. I would feel bad trying to save $100 just to have a much inferior experience in RT games for the next few years (the 4080S has up to 125% better performance in heavy RT workloads). The 7900XTX also consumes much more power and has inferior upscaling technology. Undervolted 4080S only consume 260W max (usually between 180-220W), so I'm not even sure I'd save 100$ in the long run by choosing the 7900XTX. The AMD experience is definitely not for me.
AMD makes amazing CPUs (I am happy with their 7800X3D CPU), but when it comes to GPUs, Nvidia is clearly on another level. Yes, Nvidia cards are more expensive, but I'm willing to pay more just to be perfectly happy with my purchase.
Both the 4070tiS and 4080S will be a big upgrade over my 8-year-old GTX1080, so I know I will be happy no matter which model I choose.
Wrong, the 4080 Super is 15% faster, no more no less. That's all you're getting for the 200$ extra since everything else about these GPUs is the same. It's a 42 vs 48-49 FPS situation.
I went with 4080S, out of the same logic. If I'm to spend a big buck, then might as well go a little extra for a better card. The extra money for extra performance is still reasonable to go with 4080S, unlike extremely overpriced 4090.
GET 10% FPS AND SPEND 10% PRICE