Roy Keane saipan part 1

roy keane saipan part 1

[@remembermeforevertit]

i've read the roy keane book and all keane wanted was proper and professional approach to the world cup finals. he stood up for what he belived in and in doing so sacrificed himself similar to the juventus game, hopefully his strong opinions have changed things for future ireland squads.

[@anthonylennon8331]

20 years later and things have gotten worse. We haven’t even qualified for another World Cup since

[@Brickcellent]

FAI probably went with the cheapest options available so they could line their pockets.

[@mister3566]

Didn't Roy say that?

[@tuto09]

Roy Keane once said "fail to prepare, prepare to fail."

[@zodiacza1]

the FAI was indeed proven to be inept, so keano was right all along. i agree though, he should just bit his lip and played in the world cup, not for mick, not for the FAI but for the irish people!

[@Fredders88]

+zodiacza1 P4 W1 D3 - it took penalties by Spain to knock Ireland out (goes down as a draw). Not bad when you've lost your star player.

[@eddy4688]

Saying it goes down as a draw is no consolation or moral victory, you lost, you're out, gone, the end.

[@thomascaulfieldder3452]

zodiacza1 yeah Roy Keane was right about the fai but none of the other players left he left his country down and I remember a quote from Kenny Cunningham saying if you want to play for Ireland you should be prepared to crawl through glass Roy Keane has no class on the pitch and off the pitch he's just a thug and real supporters now that he called have settled the matter after the World Cup we could have won that World Cup that year he's a disgraced individual he has no class

[@mrronan2007]

Bit his lip .no way man . He was right a the way .the only mistake he made was he didn't publicly shame the Japanese too for such a shoddy set up .as for Mick uhoa

[@michaelcomerford3492]

They actually done very well to be Fair 🇮🇪

[@geraldfagan9018]

The guy's a pro, I bet the Germans get it right.

[@DarrenBates]

Absolutely

[@pmacc3557]

Jawohl😁

[@seanpeter-budge1455]

The preparation side of things is indefensible. No footballs. No training wear. No tape or strapping.
That's just pathetic.

[@paulgray7014]

And being accused of faking injury hardly accuse Roy Keane of that

[@WolfsH0ok]

look at this program. tacky and badly made
why would our football be any more organised

[@tiarnan76]

why did they need strap-ons? football is one thing but cummon...they were only gona be away from their wives for a few weeks

[@fincaman2]

Paul Gray He wouldn't play in a friendly and was heard to say "I don't do friendlies" he went back to Man U and played for them three days later and twice more in the following week he never sought any treatment for his "injury"

[@johnnytwomey1814]

@@fincaman2 how do you know for sure he didn't get treatment. But the match they said he faked injury for was the game in Iran ya bird brain

[@johnw7345]

I’d always wonder how far we would have went had nothing happened and Keane was in the squad.
I think we were robbed by Spain.

[@kevinod64]

Obviously the country is still split over it!! We weren't there, so we don't have all the facts, and I am a Keane fan, but the facts that we do have are that he quit Ireland, he quite United, he quit Celtic and he quit Sunderland! He has the morals of an alley cat!

[@lunarguitars]

Legend! The more poeple spout the bigger the legend - full stop!!!

[@Stefinho360]

Brilliant ending to the first part "I knew what it was all about...I knew" there should have been a god damn fadeout moondog!!!

[@springerqs]

Roy Keane is an upstart and should not have been allowed back into Ireland after this.
I dont care if Mcarthy arrived to trainin in a chicken suit doused in sweet nsour sauce,if Keane is this strong character that he no doubt is why didnt he just stick it out and make all his feelings felt after the world cup.
Will never be forgiven for this,did mccarthy drive the DHL van that was late with the gear,did mccarthy on purpose book a dodgy training field,did mccarthy force keane to go home??

[@sizzla10]

Colin Farrell should play Roy keane in a fil m

[@conorsmith8551]

Mick had two failed campaigns as Ireland manager. Managers love to pick a scapegoat rather than themselves. Started to have a go at roy about injuries, that he missed crucial games etc. If Roy hadn't been playing against Holland and Portugal, no way would we have got those results.

[@shutup2751]

agree roy was the only world class player in that squad with a winning mentality and was villified because of it, the likes of robbie keane despite being a good striker was never anywhere close to keane's level

[@pauldg837]

Thanks to Roy Keane the FAI now take preparations serioulsy!
Keane was right as a world class player, you would expect world class preparations for the World Cup. He will always be an absolute legend in my opinion.

[@theultimate6]

keano hit the nail on the head with this interview....maybe he went about it the wrong way but everything he's said is nailed on! Mick McCarthey probably felt threatened but Keane was right to challenge him...Keano was right...his attitude was that they were there to win and not make up numbers..whether thats unrealistic or not its the right way to think. Keane was just saying what all the players thought but were too spineless to say!

[@TroyaE117]

You play for your country. You represent your country. You do not play for yourself. You do not represent yourself.

[@janegavin8715]

Keane is Ireland greatest ever player along with a prime Paul McGrath.

[@DarkArterialGore]

Liam Brady was the most talented Irish player ever.

[@michaeldevaney5728]

@@DarkArterialGore I totally agree with you Brady was absolutely unbelievable yu are 700 percent correct

[@michaeldevaney5728]

I believe keane is a really good person and a good man but all the same he let the Irish people down to the extreme and his country he put himself before his country which nobody should ever do

[@nellucleahcim]

legend!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@drgjenkins4361]

What I really really like about Roy is that the media or someone will accuse Roy of something (complaining, being aggressive, etc). Then when he is questioned he gives a full account of what went on (pressuming he is telling the truth of course). For Mick to have sent him home, when there were no footballs present for training hahah.... and even my great idol Fergie - it was clear he was trying to edge Roy out because he was just dipping past his peak / coming into injuries. Yet Roy cut through the nonsense of claims that he was 'running' the changing room, as I have seen so many interviews of Fergie claiming that that was the plan anyway. He seems honest beyond belief, and his stories never change. How a club hasn't employed him as a coach lately ill never know. Perhaps they prefer the never ending dross of Pardew, Sam, Hughes, Mccarthy etc. YNWA Roy

[@Ggggggggfddxv]

I rember this interview like it wax yesterday

[@Redcoat68]

"Last" world cup. Yes, your last world cup, and he took you out of your "last" world cup. Eeeeeeeejit!

[@Leodhas77]

I'm guessing you don't like roy? Look, I wouldn't want to go for a drink with him. However I've watched him play the game and for me he's the best midfielder of his generation and part of that was his desire to win and he went to that world cup believing Ireland had the squad to win but they were again being handled like a pub team which he laid at the feet of McCarthy and his head just went. I think that team, with Keane, was the best to date, perfect mix of great youth and great experience.

[@fincaman2]

Mick now totally vindicated

[@DJMDLM1]

With Keane we wouldn't have hammered any team. Let's not forget we also had Kelly, Kilbane, Holland/Kinsella, Harte, Breen and a 33 year old Staunton as starting players. Finnan was a solid right back. For example, apart from the two Keanes and Duff, none of the rest would have probably got into Turkey's starting 11. Maybe Given but Rustu was top class too. They had good attacking full backs in Davala and Ergun. A midfield with Tugay, Emre and Basturk and Hakan Sukur up front. All good players.

[@rampageclover9788]

Finnan, Harte, Given and the other Keane were on top form for Fulham, Newcastle and Leeds throughout that season. Definitely in the upper-tier and Roy knew what they could bring having squared off against them many times. I never rated Staunton. Like McCarthy, just another lump that needed Jack Charlton to hold his hand.....not world-class in the slightest. Being 33 wasn't the issue, Roy was 31 and still killing it at Old Trafford.

[@Nautilus1972]

"I am a vivid Liverpool fan ... "
:o)
God bless D'internet

[@Leodhas77]

The FAI and McCarthy ran the show at that time like a sunday league set up. Roy's sacrifice (That man wanted to play in the World Cup Finals) meant the FAI began to get their act together and Ireland go to euro 2012 under Trapattoni with a far more professional foundation. The difference between then and now is hugh and no small part of that is down to Keane and the stance he took, a stance taken because he cared and knew what was needed to win and not just turn up for a good auld time of it .

[@thetruth7333]

KEANO THERE'S ONLY ONE KEANO THERE'S ONLY ONE KEANO

[@Aoifemfitzgerald]

We Irish are such a nation of grudge holders it's unreal . This whole Saipan Saga is has gone on with the last decade and people have entrenched themselves on either site. It's the same thing as the whole "civil war politics" that has this country fucked.

[@fincaman2]

@thomasoconnor07 I have read his book and he never did that, what is a matter of record is that Keane refused to play in some of the pre WC friendlies and did on several occasions say he was "injured" so as not to have to play in friendlies. Mick McCarthy took the team on to their greatest triumph never losing a game in open play.I wonder how Keane will explain to his grandchildren why he threatened to walk out on the Irish team 4 times before being fired.

[@fincaman2]

I have read McCarthey's book and Keane's book and it is quite clear that Kean is in the wrong, If you swear at length and call your International manager foul names you go, simple, and when he did go the other players clapped. He should have had a go at the FAI not McCarthey. Keane says "We were preparing for the world cup finals" but doesn't say he refused to play in the friendlies leading up to them. The team went on to never loose a game in open play, they were knocked out on penalties.

[@ftcoolers4091]

200th comment 🎉

[@boosra]

That's a fair answer. I don't necessarily agree with it all, but it is certainly more balanced than my little rant. Cheers.

[@sebastianknowlton8238]

Fully agreed mate. About a month prior the 2002 tournament, a German friend of mine said that the squad they sent to Japan and Korea was the worst Germany side he'd seen in his nearly 50 years on the Earth. With Keano in the lineup, we'd have topped the group.

[@wonjubhoy]

No Martin O'Neill is the new manager. Keane is his assistant davidenko!!!

[@DoctorMeatDic]

I just want people to hear the troot

[@memorywarrior8752]

Such a pity that he couldn't play, whatever the reasons. It was a weak world cup, we could have beaten Spain and South Korea and got to the Semi Final.

[@anthonytoner11]

Very simple. Had Keane stayed, straight red card against Cameroon or definitely Germany given his frustrations. Right decision to go home (or Mick to send him home)

[@conorsmith8551]

Always said this. People moan he didn't play but had he stayed, frustrations would have boiled over, especially always thought he'd have lost the head against Germany and saw red mist.

[@bobsyouruncle6]

I'm only after reading roy keanes book and what he did was the absolute right thing to do, maybe he shouldn't have called mccarthy a wanker but mick was baiting him to say these things. Some may see it as he walked out on his country, wrong he opened everyones eyes to the disgrace that is the FAI and i have great respect for it!

[@DubSun33]

For an impartial account of exactly what happened leading up to and during Saipan, look at The Saipan Incident on Soccer Ireland.com. It's recommended by Paul Kimmage, the journalist keane spoke to out in Saipan. Not suitable for children.

[@kisbie]

@theultimate6 If Ireland had gone about their preparations properly and kept Keane sweet, they actually had a decent chance of making the semis, perhaps even the final. Just look at the rest of that tournament.

[@TheBoosht]

I would hate to have been the FAI Training Kit manager that summer :)

[@xstargirlsarahx]

I love Roy he was a brilliant player for Ireland but I don't know how anyone could walk out on their country

[@clareman1916]

I Agree

[@daveryan2473]

Turned up to football training with no balls, it's like something out of Monty Python. I heard they trained with Rooster potatoes...

[@fincaman2]

They only went to Saipan for a holiday and a kickabout, they were given two days off because of jetlag, the kit arrived Monday the first day they needed it

[@maoilscheachlainn]

i'm a liverpool fan to the core.....
Roy Keane is a fuckin hero!!!

[@liamfeely]

Another Irish supporter who likes English sides mad asf

[@Fredders88]

'Your captain for a reason' - Keane. Yes, then don't question your manager's right to represent Ireland in front of the whole squad when nearly half the squad had British accents and that was incredibly divisive.

[@markbutlerfox9936]

What good did big nose Mick ever do

[@MrKongboi]

He's not wearing his 2 diamond earrings in this interview

[@thomascaulfieldder3452]

How come he was the only player to complain if you want to play for your country you should be prepared to walk on glass and Roy Keane was complaining about pizza he was just looking for a way out he has no class on the pitch and off the pitch remember Kenny Cunningham making a statement that if you want to play for Ireland you should be prepared to crawl through glass Roy Keane wasn't prepared to eat pizza if he was hungry why didn't he just go out and have a meal he let the whole country down Ireland could have won that World Cup that year

[@soundmantones]

Roy Keane is a great character who stands by what he believes a complicated intelligent man I suppose he is a troubled genius. It is a pity he missed that world cup and maybe McCarthy should have handled him better knowing him as well as he did.I am a huge fan of Roys because he is honest and he has a big heart. There will never be a heart as big on the pitch for Ireland again.

[@thomasoconnor07]

@DubSun33 is that paul kimmage the cycling journo?

[@keithp6699]

Tommy Gorman. He's not even a sports journalist.

[@DJMDLM1]

Yeah if Keane was there, we could have got to the world cup final. It's such a shame that the preparations were so shambolic and that Keane couldn't bite his tongue until after the World Cup was over.

[@barnetthejosh]

He was a disruptive pre Madonna

[@daedralord1]

out of all my man utd friends, i was the only one who backed roy for wat he said to mick and standing his ground
and were all irish

[@liamfeely]

Never understood Irish who support man u with the amount of union jacks it the stadium on match day etc bizarre club choice tbh I'll stick to celtic

[@IrishRu5T]

Yeah hammered is an exageration but we could certainly have beaten these guys. If I remember correctly, we beat Portugal and Holland in the period between 2000-2002...i think! Of course we drew with Germany so we werent that bad. Individually we werent a good team,but Keane managed to always get the best out of his team-mates. Who knows what COULD have happened if he stayed I guess?

[@MasterGuero]

Look up where Saipan is. Lol

[@Hammer332]

In hindsight, he was right.

[@hampdenpark]

it was the biggest mistake ever to send roy home. they could have done it thorugh to the final.

[@TissuePrices]

who is the interviwer?
he did a great job, wasnt afraid to ask the tough questions and got all the answer we wanted

[@stephenryan7855]

Tommie Gorman, a Sligo man!

[@pokemon3211]

i don't know who he is and i don't believe i have ever heard of him b 4. but o well, i want to be in Saipan, like he had the chance to be.

[@dennynua]

wonder what would have happend if they followed France example with Anelka being sent home guess well never know

[@DJMDLM1]

Not necessarily. We only lost on penalties to Spain without Keane. Also, in 2002, Spain weren't anywhere near as good as the are now. We would have played South Korea in the quarter finals and Germany in the semi finals. With Keane, I think we would have been slight favourites to beat South Korea and around 40/60 to beat Germany. Germany weren't a great side either.

[@fincaman2]

@thomasoconnor07 I have read both Mick Macarthy's book and Roy Keane's, One explains carefully in a reasoned manner what took place and other goes f***ck b****d all the way through. the team had no moral while Keane was moaning and pulled together when he left. We will never know how they would have done with Keane but moral was restored when he left and when his sacking was announced to the team they all clapped

[@1ngjoxsh]

@raffael344
Are you joking??? He is a true legend, a great personality and one of the finest players in history. He would walk into nearly any side in history.

[@Stringer9]

Walk out..he was sent home. How is it people don't understand the difference.

[@Irish780]

Image that delaney Is still around..... the American army wouldn't move him he is some balax

[@nathansmithba]

He is a top man. I count only a handful of men I will listen to with interest and he is one of them. Clough another, Obama but thats about it. I support LFC so no angle other then thank you Mr Keane!

[@TheTruthness2011]

It's unbelievable how stupid people are.
Do you know how many bombs Obama dropped on innocent people?

[@bookworm4314]

The Irish set up was a joke but he is a very fortunate person to play for his country. He should have bit his lip and stayed for the Irish people who were at home and more importantly the supporters who broke the bank to travel there. He thought of himself and not them. Some might say why should he. The answer to that is when you wear a green jersey your not just representing yourself. At the end of the day he was wrong and I'd say he knows that himself. If he had the time back he would do things differently.

[@sonofalbasteelman3842]

Eamonn Buckley Who do you think you are? Roy Keane has never played for you. He never wore the green jersey, for what it's worth, so what are you complaining about? He was not representing himself: he was team captain, and as such was representing his team, who were all complaining about the lousy conditions. That is what he supposed to do. He was a better leader of men than, say, Enda Kenny. You know fuck-all about football, otherwise you would know there are serious issues here. That lousy training pitch could cause serious injury, and someone could be out of a match and even a career, without ever playing in a match. But you don't care if someone breaks a limb, representing the great YOU. You would just turn the other way. You are just a ne'erdowell who watches a match and thinks he knows more than the players and the coaching staff. Go on. Admit it. If your side loses a goal, you think it's the goalkeeper's fault, don't you? You think that a sweeper is a tool with bristles used by the ground staff, don't you? That's how ignorant you are. Roy Keane is a man. He stood up to idiots and sacrificed his own reputation for his team mates. He behaved like a captain, whereas you, Fuckley, would have lain on your back before McCarthy to have your tummy tickled. You make me sick.

[@bookworm4314]

You lost the argument by getting personal. Roy Keane has proven time and time again that he has no people skills. He should never have been made captain of Ireland no matter how good he was. He will always be remembered for leaving his country in it's time of need.

[@sonofalbasteelman3842]

Eamonn Buckley I have lost no argument. I am not arguing with you, Fuckley: I'm telling you. You say: "He will always be remembered for leaving his country in it's [sic] time of need." Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! And what did his country need? It's only a fucking game, dumbo. What a tiny little mind your've got. People walk out on their jobs every day. But you start talking about magic green jerseys, and times of need. It's got fuck-all to do with you. You're nobody. "If you get personal with me, you lose the argument." But the great Eamonn Fuckley can say what he likes about someone he doesn't even know. You still make me sick.

[@thomasjones2415]

Roy Keane Very Professional, Indeed,

[@themushieman]

I think he was completly right

[@GregB1972]

I mean to play for my country, not walk out on it.

[@adrianc73]

tinker!

[@Fredders88]

Why did Keane not play in the second leg against Iran? I thought at the time that was a fake injury by Man Utd and Fergie to avoid a long trip for Keane.

[@CrazyIrishDrunk1]

No, he was genuinely injured, McCarthy made up the fake accusation of Keane faking an injury

[@Fredders88]

How do you know it was genuine injury? Didn't he play for his club the following week? Clubs are always withdrawing players from international games and the player suddenly recovers to the play for the game in the next game.

[@CrazyIrishDrunk1]

I read Keanes autobiography and he said he didn't play the following week for his club. Not to mention Ireland's next opponents were Iran, a team Ireland could've (and did) handled without Keane or a few other of the squads top players. Tensions between Keane and McCarthy were already on display after Ireland beat Holland, Keane was pictured shaking McCarthy's hand quickly after the game but refusing to look at him whilst doing it. The truth is Keane knew McCarthy was messing about and wasn't taking the Manager job as seriously as he should've, his standards were very low. If we had have had a manager like Alex Ferguson we could've did much better in the World Cup.

[@Fredders88]

'Keane knew McCarthy was missing about' and 'his standards were very low'. Really? - he is one of only two ROI managers in history to qualify for the World Cup. His record there was arguably the best of the three appearances - certainly up there with the other two - with one win and three draws (and that included games against the eventual winners, Germany, and heavyweights Spain). And this was without his stand-out player, sulking on the eve of the tournament and questioning the manager's nationality and credibility and effectively ruling himself out of the tournament. Ferguson is a legend but no miracle worker - see his management of Scotland in 86. It was a strong Scotland squad but they didn't do great - (admittedly in a very tough group).

[@tommygriffin783]

Brazil won that world cup not Germany. (Germany were beaten in the final v Brazil), correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Ireland lose to Spain on penalties. Can hardly call that a draw. Come to think of it, weren't Ireland playing against 9 men in that game, one sent off and another injured.

[@gormyryallo]

keane was dead right,mccarthy didnt have a clue,

[@MyShawshank]

Team did okay without him.
He is still atraitor in my mind.
I would have given anything in my youth to wear an Irish Jersey.
Typical Cork Woosey!

[@anthonytoner11]

If Keane had stayed given his state of mind he would have got straight red in Cameroon match and gone home afterward,

[@fincaman2]

So why did the whole squad applaude when Mick threw him out ?

[@hoggybhoy1967]

Because they never had a set of balls between them.

[@Ken_from_Mumbai]

@@hoggybhoy1967 true. Cowards find comfort in groups

[@mariaS860]

How do you get there? He left United by mutual consent, he didn't just abandon them. He quit Celtic because of injury (how do you make that immoral?) and he quit Sunderland because he didn't think he was right for them. This man is very straight forward, he expects a lot of himself and his players. Apart from some incidents on the pitch, I think he sets the standard of football professionalism.

[@peteryoungpeteryoung965]

Roy came from the biggest football club on Earth to play for Ireland, which was being run like a pub team by the sound of it.lol. Mick Mccarthy is the worst coach ever, he's been crap at every club he's been at.

[@fincaman2]

Mick best manager Ireland ever had didn't lose a game in open play

[@johndoyle1810]

What do you say,,,i think it’s terrible to isolate Keane and pretty much target him.i also think he was right to run out of the situation id be gone

[@matt94alexander32]

Whatever you think of Keane’s decision & I’m mixed on that it’s unacceptable to be unprepared for a World Cup & only go for a joke & a laugh, Ireland clearly lacked professionalism in those days, I’d have been fuming too tbh.

[@Neil19695]

a bit of a laugh and a joke

[@thomasoconnor07]

@fincaman2 by the same argument you dont accuse the captain of your team of faking injuries infront of the whole team and ecspecially to a man like keane that is a massive insult

[@pmacc3557]

Keane was right

[@xenkaserovits7158]

Keano was right

[@daedralord1]

@ScottishNonBeliever roy is not innocent, he admits that himself
mick mccarthy is not solely to blame, but as the manager he should have made sure that everyting was in order to prepare for the world cup
could you imagine the england team having their camp in low standards..no
the irish fans where angry at the time...even his cork people
but people came round to see he was particaly right to stand his ground for the team

[@fincaman2]

The Team clapped when it was announced he'd gone that says it all

[@thomasandersen6719]

Amazing that they applauded him when he left...Maybe they knew he was their only world class player leaving

[@fincaman2]

They did better without him

[@strengthhonour5078]

DHL already f**king things up

[@gu8831]

Walked out on his country

[@lousassoul6038]

no he didnt..he got sent home you tool

[@Jonathanmcc]

As I said at the time to the people who backed Keane: If it was Clinton Morrison who kicked up a stink would you back him as well? He'd have been booted out the door so fast.
Keane was out of order. He knew the FAI were useless - it was his duty to put up with the shit and play the matches. He let the team down, let Ireland down and let me down as I had shelled out 10 grand for Japan.
Oh and I was at the match in 94 against Italy - Paul McGrath was our best player. Go watch the video.

[@paulboyle5659]

Did Roy go to far with his temper and faking an injury? I know Roy was a fiery person but i can take him for what he is... But im thinking hishead was to big

[@pmacc3557]

Who betr than Nobbo to present

[@irishck]

the greatest player of his era the 2002 world cup was his time to shine on the international stage but mccarthy and the pricks at the fai ruined it, made him the scapegoat for their disgraceful lack of preparation, vision and their total amataur organisation

[@fincaman2]

Mick had tried one to one chats three times but Keane kept changing his mind as to whether he was going.when Keane walked out the whole squad applauded.Ireland did great without him

[@davidenko2468]

Haha keanes ur new manager lmfao haha

[@paulbridgette]

He didnt walkout he was throwing out by a big tosser

[@thomasoconnor07]

@fincaman2 sorry im lost you read whos book? and he never did that? im being impartially here and can't understand why im being attacked. Please use some intelligent logic, it is not a matter of fact that he used injury excuses like that, how is it fact? did his doctors admit to covering for him or something? and yes that was our greatest triumph at a world cup and note i say "our" greatest triumph. imagine if the team had prepared properly, the possibilties and that is FACT

[@tonybarnes9194]

I watch some soccer highlights so lately I've been inundated with Roy Keane videos...the "last hard man" seems a little full of himself, and the macho persona revered. Some kind of John Wayne of world football. Weird.

[@stephenleslie2658]

Wow no training pitch no balls and kit ,So we'll up against it then send home your best player lol

[@daedralord1]

@daedralord1 im not gona argue on youtube
why does an opinion about a public incident become personal to the perosn who is commenting on the videos
i hope you not from ireland, cos if you are and think the FAI are not to blame then i dont know what to say
and if you're not , well go look up the FAI and look how cheap and amature these guys are
they are a joke
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