This was great, I was so confused with what class I was looking at. I am hoping to get a used high end motorhome and knowing the names of them all is mind boggling. Thanks once again Matt. Love your reviews.
As always a good video. Every RV is going to have problems. I have a very good dealer but when you are 1200 miles from them they can only give you a little advice about getting your problem resolved. My advise , spend some time and go to the factory and watch how they are built . We were thinking about a motorhome and went through 7 different assembly lines. Mostly 200k or less. Being a retired truck mechanic I was seeing a lot of maintenance issues. Already owning a diesel PU we got a 5th wheel in 2018 . And it has had its share of problems to. We spend 4-5 months a year in our 5th wheel , and I've never talked to anyone who has not had problems. As I always say you better be a handyman and know how to use UA-cam if you are going to fix your RV problems or have deep pockets. It does make for good Campfire conversation when a group of people start telling about repair issues. A lot of problems are self inflicted. We are all guilty of that .
Best advice I can give on this is to take a RV tech or knowledge RV owner with you to look over new or used RV . Every year manufacturers say this is new and improved! Check out every RV carefully It can be brand new with lots of problems that aren’t detected till it’s too late !
Only second time to watch you. I do agree with you. Wish I had seen this before we bought our new 2018 Georgetown. Kept it less than 2 years and stepped up to a 2016 Tiffin Allego Open Road with 8k miles. No comparison in quality, ride, noise, 2 slides to 4, etc. You were dead on with your presentation. I’ve enjoyed both the videos. Will watch more.
Just started looking for a motorhome and this video gave me exactly the info I have been looking for. I did not know about the tiers within the Class A. Thank you. I have subscribed!
From what I can see as a newbie to the RV world. It seems like Fleetwoods have a long life span as they age and in my opinion look to be the most consistent quality. But the Forest River Georgetowns have the best look to me.
I have to agree with you. We had a class C and just recently got a Thor outlaw class A and there is definitely a difference. Thank you so much enjoyed it this was my first time seeing this
Great advice. We have had 6 RVs: American Clipper (C), Tioga Montara Special (C), Winnebago Minnie Winnie (C), Holiday Rambler Vacationer (A), Winnebago Warrior (old little class A) and Georgetown 300. The Tioga put them all to shame, but our old Warrior (1992) is still on the road and we still own it as well as the Georgetown. The interior of the Georgetown (2011) is deteriorating. Had to have the entire dash replaced and now the seats are cracking. It all comes down to personal preference, what you are using it for and how much you want to spend.
I agree with you about tiers. I have a Tiffin and I like it better than the Newmar or Entegra gas models. For Diesels I like the Phaeton and the Dutch Star.
My family and I own and operate an rv park so I number one see many Rvs and number 2 have no skin in the sales game and yes there are different levels but when it comes to class a level 3/4 regarding the coach part (as yes almost all use the same chassis and drive train with a few minor differences) the coach part of the Thor lineup at the level of luxury have more service issues by far than the others Newmar and Tiffin seem to have the least
@@lancephillips8740, Monaco is not out of business. Monaco is a part of the REV Group, REV Group is the parent company of American Coach, Fleetwood, Holiday Rambler and Monaco, they are alive and doing very well.
@@patrickmeaney6743 Monaco is a part of the REV Group, REV Group is the parent company of American Coach, Fleetwood, Holiday Rambler and Monaco. They are a great coach and only product high-end diesel pushers.
I gotta say, my favorite motorhomes ever are the 1970s Dodge motorhomes. I own two Dodge Titan motorhomes, both in mostly original condition. Those things are definitely head turners as well!
Appreciated your video and information. While I do not own an RV my wife and I are travelling musicians and have had our eye on RVs for some time and today I learned some new things to which I am grateful for. Thank you.
Awesome thanks so much for watching! If you ever have any questions and you don’t want ask a “salesman” feel free to email me MattsRVReviews@Gmail.com Now I am a salesman lol but I won’t try to sell you anything 😁👍
@@MattsRVReviews Welcome Matt and I will take you up on that. I enjoyed your video/style and knowledge so much I posted it on our 3 FB pages facebook.com/dannybrooksmusic
Danny Brooks awesome! Thanks so much for that I can’t tell you how much I appreciate that! I return the favor! Well maybe let me offer you something! 1. Do you have any original songs? If yes then if you want I will use it as background music in one of my videos! If it’s that type of music. Just let me know
@@MattsRVReviews Check out our website. We are working on our 12th CD next month in Muscle Shoals. Here are som live videos of our duo www.dannybrooksmusic.com/live-performance-videos Full band videos: ua-cam.com/users/Decatur7videos Let me know if this style suits you and I can send some studio mp3's Thanks Matt.
National Dolphin 2005 6355LX 8.1L Gas Wokrhorse. Strong. Not afraid of any hill. Beautiful Machine, and I'm a Ford guy. You can feel the quality. Not one complaint. I miss it.
My parents purchased an Allegro top of the line motor home in 1986. Tiffin I believe is the company’s name today. They bought it factory direct back then as I remember it. This company bent over backwards to repair most everything that came up for like 10 years for my dad. They had what my dad, who was very demanding at times, a great service and after sales relationship to customers. He would bring the big 36’ Allegro to a local dealer and have service done. Often times at no cost or very low cost. If I was to buy a motor home today, and I may do that, I would only consider a Tiffin!
If you did an in-depth video on all the pros and cons about every Class A gas vehicle by every manufacturer out there, you would have to do a mini-series! So I understand why you went with the very basic information, which is still valuable, especially to the first-time buyer who has done very little (if any) research. It is a good starting point and kudos to you for thinking about it and taking the time to make the video. To my knowledge, no one else has thought to do so, and I have watched hundreds of videos on buying a Class A motor home. You did good here. I've also watched some of your other videos and I have become one of your subscribers. Keep up the good work and I look forward to viewing more videos from you.
Matt, thank you for making such educational videos. I really appreciate the way you work hard to give straight down the line honest reviews and recommend that people buy from a local deal whenever possible.
I noticed that Newmar uses fiberglass or wool wall insulation versus Azdel laminated walls other manufacturers use. Because of that, I prefer other bands over Newmar.
Great explanation for a newbie! Especially the part about the RV dealer, find someone with a good reputation that provides good customer service. When I buy something this expensive, I expect the dealer to provide reliable service after the sale, too. Just starting to look into buying an RV, still a couple years before I can travel full-time, but great information. Thanks.
Even if the dealership you buy from has a great service department, that doesn’t mean you will always be nearby to use them. Often when traveling you can run into problems getting service. Many dealers are so busy with their own customers that they make travelers wait or refuse to provide service altogether.
Matt, you are absolutely fantastic and thank you so much for this review. We recently purchased our first RV, a Holiday Rambler Admiral and we LOVE it. There are some things we'd prefer to have in a different floor plan so we may be trading in sooner rather than later and when we do we're making the drive from Fredericksburg VA to see you!
You can group them all in one category; they’re man made and will wear out tear up and break down all have maintenance NEEDS that can’t be overlooked or you’ll be like some of these comments complaining about it letting them down. The initial purchase is a very small portion of the commitment it doesn’t roll for free.......
Matt, you have good stuff on your videos. I'm not real crazy about sales fold particularly in the car business but everything I've with you on the RV business you seem to be pretty straight forward and honest about what you do. If I was looking to by a motorhome/camper of any sort. I would be looking for you first thing. That takes a lot for me to say to. Thank you!!!
Love this video. Helped so much. Would like a website that you can plug in all your must haves, and then all the manufacturers come up with those qualities. Comparison shopping is mind boggling with so many options.
Man, I couldn’t agree more about the dealer’s service department/customer service! I purchased my 2019 Thor 29M from Mike Thompson’s RV Supercenter in Colton, CA. The only thing super was the disappointing customer service. From major to simple issues, several required repeat repairs. After the 3rd time I finally told Thor I’ve had enough! Once I took it to my local independent service center, the issues have & are finally being addressed satisfactorily.
I have been watching your videos for quite a while and I’d like him and I just came across this one this morning even though you made it a while ago and I like this video more than the others even because you really give us an unbiased review on things that we often have questions about but I don’t have anybody to ask the questions to so thank you
Great information Matt. Very informative with your positive attitude. Keep showing the consumers what is out there and what is the best bang for the buck. Also what to look for in a used motorhome.
Thanks for this great info. It really is difficult to shop for an rv. This helps a whole lot. I'm looking for my full-time class A now. So, wish me luck.😊 One of my top picks is the Holiday Rambler Vacationer M-36SBT. I love this rig.
My favorite are Spartan underbodies with Caterpillar engines (sadly not made anymore). After this it is storage above and below. I want reliability and safety for living in it. Reliability is accomplished with a whole RV electric surge protector, whole RV electricity regulator for under voltage, over voltage, and frequency sensor disconnect. Safety is done with a whole house water filter and a water distiller. Both categories will save your vacation in more ways that I wish to express. I strongly recommend a composting toilet. This will cut down on water usage and cleaning, making black storage tank stops, and it will cut down on plumbing expenses due to toilet blockages, and guess who will probably have to fix this at the worst possible time. A Nature composting toilet is around $900. The rest is just stuff.
Matt, thank you for your unbiased reviews. We have been following you since we started this idea in our heads about two years ago. You have provided sound reasoning, and who else does the "Jump" ?? Great job-Thanks!
Gulfstream! I'm from Elkhart County, driven every kind of rig that's ever been made. lol - HUNDREDS of them. Well, no Winnabagos, but I own a Winnabago now, and it's not that great. After driving and sleeping in them for a thousand or two miles, you get a feel for the quality.
MAT Thank you for your honesty an excellent review as always. .i bet your BOSS said don't scare off the level 1's from buying level 4's I would think if you're going to compare Ford Mustang it ought to go against a Camaro not a Corvette. I would like for you to included how class A's and all the other groups of level 1 through 4. What motor option , tow rating , walk through with the slides in. Another one gas mileage you know they all are different mileage. because size does matter..the best sales man always takes you on the roof...a necessity would be the furnace and washer and dryer and is it a Four Season extra insulation and you really didn't go into the speakers radio and I would like to have a jachary fold up sofa into a bed. I would the dinette table to move it at an angle you wish to complete's anybody settings issues you have . And which one gives you the most options for your money
Thanks so much Stephen.. Yes it was a little difficult for me at first... But it is what it is... I personally wouldnt spend the money on a level 4... I would go with level 2... but there is alot of people who go with level 1. its just education :)
Okay, I just watched this and now I'm not sure if I should go gas or diesel, I"ll have do more research, and really look at floor plans to determine what I like or want. I really love these videos, they really are informative and helpful, thank you
MATT - Thank You Very Much for Taking the Time to Make This Video. Very Wee Done.. Even Though I Think it was Filmed in 2019 You Gave Out A Wealth of Information to Help Me Make a Knowledgeable Decision for My Next Purchase. I Will Also Check Out Your Other Posts and Website… John D. (JD)
Thank you Matt! I found thus old video if yours it says 2 years but nit sure. It was great information. I believe it is the quality of the motorhome that is good to go by when buying an Rv. Not just the name. Thank you Matt for showing the difference of Rvs. Thank you as well for showing the Rvs. Who was behind the camera for you don’t mind me asking. See you next time.
Matt, I can't wait to meet you at a Rally or show. We are very close to buying our 5th rv and with all your demos (not just sales pitch) and educational videos I wish I would have known about you before on my other purchases. Thank you!!!!!
Loved this video! i am just starting to look into getting an RV (not necessarily class a) and it's difficult to understand the quality differences and you just explained it in a simple way! Would love to see a breakdown of all the different classes individually that way it gives you more insight what the differences are. This will help with the buying decisions. In the end we all have a budget to live in but even if the class 4 is within my budget, do I need and or want all the features they provide; maybe a lower class is better. This is the second video I have seen of yours and I loved both of them and have subscribed.
Matt, absolutely love your videos; especially this one that does a good job of relating the difference between the Tier levels. Not to mention all of the others that are unbiased reviews of what is liked/disliked about the individual unit being reviewed. I remain hopeful that one day you will be able to spend the time to survey and rate service departments for the big dealers like General, Lazy Days, MHSRV and others. It seems that "service" in terms of the manufacturer supporting the dealers are hit and miss; priority is given to the larger diesel units and clientele wallet size as opposed to the others of us who can only afford say the Tier 1 and 2 units. It would be interstesting to know if the 80/20 rule applies here as well; where 80% of a dealer's profit comes from 20% of the customers who can afford the 300K - 1mil price tags. Anyway, keep up the great work, tell Adrea hello and thanks for her work as well and keep the videos coming!
Thanks for the basic run down on this. I am just starting to look THe RVs and I found this very helpful. I didn't know anything about any levels of that a tier even exists. Now I know what to look for. What about I look for and look out for in a used motorhome?
It would seem to me that the most important thing is the drive train and the assembly method. Over time delamination issues are ones that no owner wishing if keeping their home for any period is the objective. All the buzzers and whistles are nice, but add costs and over time issues develop with them. Just like a car, buzzers, and whistles add costs and in the end, these tricks are the first to fail. This is a highly individual choice that depends on the money you wish to spend. In my mind, most people would be better off buying an older Trippin, Newmar, or Prevost than a newer model thor or one of the lesser brands. I have been watching RV videos for some time now and it seems to me having a consultant help determine what you really need is important, a weekender needs something different than someone wishing to spend a lot of time in their home.
As a first time RV buyer this is EXACTLY the information I was looking for. More points of comparison would be great. Do you have a similar level 1 vs level 4 models for Class A diesels?
Matt's RV Reviews - Airstreams used to be THE premium trailer, best woods used, high if not highest quality components available. Then THOR bought Airstream, mildew/mold resistant plywood is no longer used for their flooring except a strip by the shower and entry door. When my foot went through the floor by the bed under a window, and I found out this is a VERY common problem that Airstream is very aware of... but it takes 5+ years to rot. Mildew and mold resistant plywood would have doubled the life or extended it indefinitely. What got my is the cost difference at Home Depot is $5 per sheet, or less than a hundred bucks for the whole floor for the entire unit. They saved less than a hundred bucks knowing that an over $20,000 repair cost would be paid later, out of warranty, by the owner. Their electric hitches have nylon gears, while the metal gear models cost less than $30 more but last years longer. Every component from the water pump to inverter all have a similar story. If I bought a stick built $40,000 I would expect this, but I paid almost $100,000 for my Airstream and did so BECAUSE of their reputation. When the DEALER tells you that you don’t want the Airstream replacement part, spend a few bucks more for this one that will last years longer, you get a little concerned. When my foot went through the floor and I found out Airstream KNEW about the problem, but to save about $80 I now have to pay over $20,000 to rebuild the entire trailer to replace the floor... I started getting mad. Airstream still makes one of the best, but THOR doesn’t realize that they are not dealing with the average customer. I am willing to pay for quality because I’ve had enough ruined vacations in cheap trailers and RV’s. I am looking at one of their trailers that is well over $100 grand now, and I wrote Airstream with a short wish list. Their response was that the dealer could do all of these upgrades for me for a nominal fee. Who spends $140,000 on a trailer new, then pays to remove, deconstruct it, to reinstall or upgrade the flooring, electrical, batteries, inverter etc.? So... I’m currently switching gears, looking for an older one I can rebuild to what Airstreams spec’s should have been in the first place.
Erin Thor Very good response Erin and gave a very valid and poignant example how good names are sometimes lost in the past. What’s even more frustrating as you pointed out is their charging current builds based on the quality of units that have been made in the past. Short term profit will destroy a long-term good name!!
Well I am not an expert on the construction part of it... But I was working the RV Show this weekend and the Factory Reps we there and every one of them talk about how what they do is the best... so I am not sure I am sorry
Jack, the locking part of the wall & roof system on the Winnebago's have nothing to do with whether or not they delaminate. Delamination is when the Fiberglass separates from the Luan it is laminated to. This is caused because Luan absorbs water and then the glue holding the fiberglass to it is gone. That is what Delamination is. Now, with that said the construction of the Winnebago is head and shoulders above many others out there. Walls that do not delaminate are ones that are a Hung Wall like in the Newmar. Since it is not a laminated wall, it can't delaminate. Hope that helps!
Newmars lower end models are built better than winnebago mid grade ones. No fake hubcaps, cheap outdoor and indoor hinges and subpar cheap slide gears and mechanisms
Very interesting review but I would comment that beauty is only skin deep. Yes the level 4's all come with high end finishes but there is a reason Newmar and Tiffen have the reputations they do. The workmanship and the way they are constructed contribute to value as the cheaply made units will shake themselves apart after a few years.
Disagree. I bought based on the recommendations of a mobile RV repair guy with over 30 years of experience in the field. There are two level of components these are all built from - good and better. The number one factor is the build quality and then after sales manufacturer support. Newmar, Tiffin and Winnie are the top. Thor and Forest River are the bottom. It is so bad on some brands that not only will he not work on them due to the poor build quality but the manufacturer will approve warranty work and then refuse to pay later.
Matt i love you channel and how you helped to date on all the rv on the market .I like to know if you can do a review on tier 4 A class diesel motor coach with the msrp . like you did for the A class gas it would help your viewers make more informed on there future purchase
As a full-timer the first thing I look at is suitability for my intended purpose rather than choosing a specific brand. The first thing I look at is carrying capacity. We like to boondock most of the time, so we will be adding a large, heavy solar system, and will be traveling with full fresh water and propane tanks. This means we need at least 4,000 lbs. carrying capacity, but the more the better. This disqualifies many gas motorhomes right out of the gate. We also look at tank capacity. It takes us about 110 gallons of water to make the 2wk BLM and FS camping limit. Also having sufficient gray tank capacity is important too. Next is good insulation, dual pane windows, etc. All the other nice to have things like a good floorplan will be considered after the MH meets this deal breaker criteria. This weeds out a lot of beautiful motorhomes that don't serve our unique needs. We don't want a high ground clearance, industrial looking overlander either, though they are more suitable for off road life they are hard to access (some have you climb a ladder) and most are diesel, priced right out of the ballpark, in mid-high range diesel territory.
First of all, thank you. I enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot from you and others. I am unfortunately in the position where I can only afford a gas Class A at this time in my life. Trying to decide between 2019 Emblem Entegra and Winnebago/Itasca Sunova. Opinions welcome.
Entegra Emblem ALL DAY EVERY DAY! I think Winnebago has really lost themselves in themselves and they have not kept up with the industry... then Entegra is doing an Amazing Job! We just got a 36U in at our dealership Ill be making a video on it tomorrow hopefully
Winnebago bought Newmar so maybe they'll use the Newmar lineup as inspiration, or as a substitution for it's level 4 coach. Again, great info. I've had a level 1 and agree with all the points, we are in a level 2 or maybe 3 now, and I see the discrepancies you pointed out. Great great info. Good job Matt!
Matt , thank you for the information. My question is what chassis package and gas engines do the manufactures use? Are they Ford, Chevy, Dodge P series van( think ups delivery truck) or are any Peter built TRUCK chassis? I just think for the size of a class A and 22.5” wheels diesel is the only way to go. Larger brakes, more truck like.
Great video. Really good info.
Bunting Bunch thank you 🙏 so much
This was great, I was so confused with what class I was looking at. I am hoping to get a used high end motorhome and knowing the names of them all is mind boggling. Thanks once again Matt. Love your reviews.
@@MattsRVReviews yes please!!
As always a good video. Every RV is going to have problems.
I have a very good dealer but when you are 1200 miles from them they can only give you a little advice about getting your problem resolved. My advise , spend some time and go to the factory and watch how they are built . We were thinking about a motorhome and went through 7 different assembly lines. Mostly 200k or less. Being a retired truck mechanic I was seeing a lot of maintenance issues. Already owning a diesel PU we got a 5th wheel in 2018 . And it has had its share of problems to.
We spend 4-5 months a year in our 5th wheel , and I've never talked to anyone who has not had problems. As I always say you better be a handyman and know how to use UA-cam if you are going to fix your RV problems or have deep pockets.
It does make for good Campfire conversation when a group of people start telling about repair issues. A lot of problems are self inflicted. We are all guilty of that .
Best advice I can give on this is to take a RV tech or knowledge RV owner with you to look over new or used RV . Every year manufacturers say this is new and improved! Check out every RV carefully
It can be brand new with lots of problems that aren’t detected till it’s too late !
Awesome great advice
Make sure you subscribe ua-cam.com/users/mattsrvreviews
Only second time to watch you. I do agree with you. Wish I had seen this before we bought our new 2018 Georgetown. Kept it less than 2 years and stepped up to a 2016 Tiffin Allego Open Road with 8k miles. No comparison in quality, ride, noise, 2 slides to 4, etc. You were dead on with your presentation. I’ve enjoyed both the videos. Will watch more.
Just started looking for a motorhome and this video gave me exactly the info I have been looking for. I did not know about the tiers within the Class A. Thank you. I have subscribed!
First timer. Great overview; really put Class A in perspective quickly. I've watched so many videos but I hadn't heard this info before. THANK YOU.
Thanks robert! Make sure you subscribe for more great information
From what I can see as a newbie to the RV world. It seems like Fleetwoods have a long life span as they age and in my opinion look to be the most consistent quality. But the Forest River Georgetowns have the best look to me.
I have to agree with you. We had a class C and just recently got a Thor outlaw class A and there is definitely a difference. Thank you so much enjoyed it this was my first time seeing this
Great advice. We have had 6 RVs: American Clipper (C), Tioga Montara Special (C), Winnebago Minnie Winnie (C), Holiday Rambler Vacationer (A), Winnebago Warrior (old little class A) and Georgetown 300. The Tioga put them all to shame, but our old Warrior (1992) is still on the road and we still own it as well as the Georgetown. The interior of the Georgetown (2011) is deteriorating. Had to have the entire dash replaced and now the seats are cracking. It all comes down to personal preference, what you are using it for and how much you want to spend.
I agree with you about tiers. I have a Tiffin and I like it better than the Newmar or Entegra gas models. For Diesels I like the Phaeton and the Dutch Star.
My family and I own and operate an rv park so I number one see many Rvs and number 2 have no skin in the sales game and yes there are different levels but when it comes to class a level 3/4 regarding the coach part (as yes almost all use the same chassis and drive train with a few minor differences) the coach part of the Thor lineup at the level of luxury have more service issues by far than the others Newmar and Tiffin seem to have the least
Hi so of topic...how much does it cost monthly to park one of this babies in a rv park and what does it include ?...im in California
What about Monaco?
@@lancephillips8740,
Monaco is not out of business. Monaco is a part of the REV Group, REV Group is the parent company of American Coach, Fleetwood, Holiday Rambler and Monaco, they are alive and doing very well.
@@patrickmeaney6743 Monaco is a part of the REV Group, REV Group is the parent company of American Coach, Fleetwood, Holiday Rambler and Monaco. They are a great coach and only product high-end diesel pushers.
How's is Fleetwood?
I gotta say, my favorite motorhomes ever are the 1970s Dodge motorhomes. I own two Dodge Titan motorhomes, both in mostly original condition. Those things are definitely head turners as well!
Appreciated your video and information. While I do not own an RV my wife and I are travelling musicians and have had our eye on RVs for some time and today I learned some new things to which I am grateful for. Thank you.
Awesome thanks so much for watching!
If you ever have any questions and you don’t want ask a “salesman” feel free to email me MattsRVReviews@Gmail.com
Now I am a salesman lol but I won’t try to sell you anything 😁👍
@@MattsRVReviews Welcome Matt and I will take you up on that. I enjoyed your video/style and knowledge so much I posted it on our 3 FB pages facebook.com/dannybrooksmusic
Danny Brooks awesome! Thanks so much for that I can’t tell you how much I appreciate that!
I return the favor! Well maybe let me offer you something!
1. Do you have any original songs?
If yes then if you want I will use it as background music in one of my videos!
If it’s that type of music.
Just let me know
@@MattsRVReviews Check out our website. We are working on our 12th CD next month in Muscle Shoals. Here are som live videos of our duo www.dannybrooksmusic.com/live-performance-videos
Full band videos: ua-cam.com/users/Decatur7videos Let me know if this style suits you and I can send some studio mp3's
Thanks Matt.
National Dolphin 2005 6355LX 8.1L Gas Wokrhorse. Strong. Not afraid of any hill. Beautiful Machine, and I'm a Ford guy. You can feel the quality. Not one complaint. I miss it.
#1 Newmar, #2 Tiffin, #3 Winnebago #4 Fleetwood #5 Thor #6 Jayco #7 Coachmen #8 Forest River.
Thanks for the comment.. What does everyone else think
FR last and Thor #6?!!!!!!! I guess you love your Newmar?!!!
Very accurate rating order! Matt, you lost any credibility with me when you tried saying the manufacturer doesn't matter.
I am sorry andy! But ill stick to what I say :)
Thor would be last in my rating.
My parents purchased an Allegro top of the line motor home in 1986. Tiffin I believe is the company’s name today. They bought it factory direct back then as I remember it. This company bent over backwards to repair most everything that came up for like 10 years for my dad. They had what my dad, who was very demanding at times, a great service and after sales relationship to customers. He would bring the big 36’ Allegro to a local dealer and have service done. Often times at no cost or very low cost.
If I was to buy a motor home today, and I may do that, I would only consider a Tiffin!
we have a 1986 tiffin allegro
I agree completely I love my Georgetown XL has been trouble free for 3 years, can't say the same for my neighbor and his 2 year old Tiffin.
If you did an in-depth video on all the pros and cons about every Class A gas vehicle by every manufacturer out there, you would have to do a mini-series! So I understand why you went with the very basic information, which is still valuable, especially to the first-time buyer who has done very little (if any) research. It is a good starting point and kudos to you for thinking about it and taking the time to make the video. To my knowledge, no one else has thought to do so, and I have watched hundreds of videos on buying a Class A motor home.
You did good here. I've also watched some of your other videos and I have become one of your subscribers. Keep up the good work and I look forward to viewing more videos from you.
Awesome thanks so much for the comments... I am going to look more into this.
Matt, thank you for making such educational videos. I really appreciate the way you work hard to give straight down the line honest reviews and recommend that people buy from a local deal whenever possible.
Thank you again Ken I appreciate you watching :)
I noticed that Newmar uses fiberglass or wool wall insulation versus Azdel laminated walls other manufacturers use. Because of that, I prefer other bands over Newmar.
Azdel Laminated walls are far better then the competition... But I do appreciate you watching and commenting
Great explanation for a newbie! Especially the part about the RV dealer, find someone with a good reputation that provides good customer service. When I buy something this expensive, I expect the dealer to provide reliable service after the sale, too. Just starting to look into buying an RV, still a couple years before I can travel full-time, but great information. Thanks.
My Motorhome is a level 4/1! All the 4 features in the shortest A class. Easy to drive. Easy to park. Easy to heat and cool and super comfortable.
Even if the dealership you buy from has a great service department, that doesn’t mean you will always be nearby to use them. Often when traveling you can run into problems getting service. Many dealers are so busy with their own customers that they make travelers wait or refuse to provide service altogether.
Matt, by the authority bestowed upon me, I hereby designate this video presentation to be a Class A, Tier 4 with 50 amp A/C and Granite Countertops!
Good job Big guy. You are correct and I loved the way you kept it simple and un bias.
Matt, you are absolutely fantastic and thank you so much for this review. We recently purchased our first RV, a Holiday Rambler Admiral and we LOVE it. There are some things we'd prefer to have in a different floor plan so we may be trading in sooner rather than later and when we do we're making the drive from Fredericksburg VA to see you!
As always straight shooting info, does a great job , thanks for clarifying so many of our questions. .
You can group them all in one category; they’re man made and will wear out tear up and break down all have maintenance NEEDS that can’t be overlooked or you’ll be like some of these comments complaining about it letting them down. The initial purchase is a very small portion of the commitment it doesn’t roll for free.......
Thanks so much for the comment
Matt, you have good stuff on your videos. I'm not real crazy about sales fold particularly in the car business but everything I've with you on the RV business you seem to be pretty straight forward and honest about what you do. If I was looking to by a motorhome/camper of any sort. I would be looking for you first thing. That takes a lot for me to say to. Thank you!!!
Thank you Matt. Glad you shared what you did, don't want to pay extra for the name. Lots to learn and you are a big help.
Love this video. Helped so much. Would like a website that you can plug in all your must haves, and then all the manufacturers come up with those qualities. Comparison shopping is mind boggling with so many options.
I agree with you in more ways than just one... Thank you for doing this. it's a great service your doing to educate the public,and my wife...lol
Man, I couldn’t agree more about the dealer’s service department/customer service! I purchased my 2019 Thor 29M from Mike Thompson’s RV Supercenter in Colton, CA. The only thing super was the disappointing customer service. From major to simple issues, several required repeat repairs. After the 3rd time I finally told Thor I’ve had enough! Once I took it to my local independent service center, the issues have & are finally being addressed satisfactorily.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting
My wife and I are hoping to buy an RV in the future. Really appreciate all the info in your videos.
I have been watching your videos for quite a while and I’d like him and I just came across this one this morning even though you made it a while ago and I like this video more than the others even because you really give us an unbiased review on things that we often have questions about but I don’t have anybody to ask the questions to so thank you
I appreciate your presentation with its clarity and candid opinions. I enjoy it very much!
This is the 4th video on this channel I’ve now watched. This is a nice channel. Good work!
Great information Matt. Very informative with your positive attitude. Keep showing the consumers what is out there and what is the best bang for the buck. Also what to look for in a used motorhome.
Thank you so much for the support John!
Thanks for this great info. It really is difficult to shop for an rv. This helps a whole lot. I'm looking for my full-time class A now. So, wish me luck.😊 One of my top picks is the Holiday Rambler Vacationer M-36SBT. I love this rig.
You are a knowledgeable pro and I respect your expertise. I think your videos are very informative.
Good review but my choice due to manufacturer support was the Tiffin 34PA.
Tiffin makes a great motorhome
Enjoy Matt’ s expertise and his enthusiasm. I’ve learned a lot by going to his channel.
My favorite are Spartan underbodies with Caterpillar engines (sadly not made anymore). After this it is storage above and below. I want reliability and safety for living in it.
Reliability is accomplished with a whole RV electric surge protector, whole RV electricity regulator for under voltage, over voltage, and frequency sensor disconnect. Safety is done with a whole house water filter and a water distiller. Both categories will save your vacation in more ways that I wish to express.
I strongly recommend a composting toilet. This will cut down on water usage and cleaning, making black storage tank stops, and it will cut down on plumbing expenses due to toilet blockages, and guess who will probably have to fix this at the worst possible time. A Nature composting toilet is around $900.
The rest is just stuff.
Hi Matt, that’s a nice level 4 motorhome! Thanks a bunch for pointing out the differences.
Thanks for explaining the different attributes of each class
Thanks so much for watching Marty!
Make sure you subscribe so you dont miss a video :) ua-cam.com/users/mattsrvreviews
Outstanding! You offer a wealth of knowledge. First-time viewer....
Matt, thank you for your unbiased reviews. We have been following you since we started this idea in our heads about two years ago. You have provided sound reasoning, and who else does the "Jump" ?? Great job-Thanks!
Gulfstream! I'm from Elkhart County, driven every kind of rig that's ever been made. lol - HUNDREDS of them. Well, no Winnabagos, but I own a Winnabago now, and it's not that great. After driving and sleeping in them for a thousand or two miles, you get a feel for the quality.
Thanks so much for the comment
bluehors3
Just wanted to say hi to a neighbor...
I’m born and raised there...
MAT Thank you for your honesty an excellent review as always. .i bet your BOSS said don't scare off the level 1's from buying level 4's I would think if you're going to compare Ford Mustang it ought to go against a Camaro not a Corvette. I would like for you to included how class A's and all the other groups of level 1 through 4. What motor option , tow rating , walk through with the slides in. Another one gas mileage you know they all are different mileage. because size does matter..the best sales man always takes you on the roof...a necessity would be the furnace and washer and dryer and is it a Four Season extra insulation and you really didn't go into the speakers radio and I would like to have a jachary fold up sofa into a bed. I would the dinette table to move it at an angle you wish to complete's anybody settings issues you have . And which one gives you the most options for your money
Thanks so much Stephen.. Yes it was a little difficult for me at first... But it is what it is... I personally wouldnt spend the money on a level 4... I would go with level 2... but there is alot of people who go with level 1. its just education :)
Considering making a purchase, thank you for taking the time to help educate strangers...well done video btw...
Well thank you Jaycarl! If you have any questions feel free to email me MattsRVReviews@gmail.com
Okay, I just watched this and now I'm not sure if I should go gas or diesel, I"ll have do more research, and really look at floor plans to determine what I like or want. I really love these videos, they really are informative and helpful, thank you
very good educational video for first timers thinking of full timing after retirement.
Great job. We are very much newbies and this is the info we need. We can't decide between Class A, C or towables. Ahhhh!!!
MATT - Thank You Very Much for Taking the Time to Make This Video. Very Wee Done.. Even Though I Think it was Filmed in 2019 You Gave Out A Wealth of Information to Help Me Make a Knowledgeable Decision for My Next Purchase. I Will Also Check Out Your Other Posts and Website… John D. (JD)
EXCELLENT...exactly what I was needing to know! Love your videos, very informative and seem truthful and honest.
Thank you Matt! I found thus old video if yours it says 2 years but nit sure. It was great information. I believe it is the quality of the motorhome that is good to go by when buying an Rv. Not just the name. Thank you Matt for showing the difference of Rvs. Thank you as well for showing the Rvs. Who was behind the camera for you don’t mind me asking.
See you next time.
Matt, I can't wait to meet you at a Rally or show. We are very close to buying our 5th rv and with all your demos (not just sales pitch) and educational videos I wish I would have known about you before on my other purchases. Thank you!!!!!
Wow I sold RV s for years great break down keep up the good work
Thanks so much Sam!
Loved this video! i am just starting to look into getting an RV (not necessarily class a) and it's difficult to understand the quality differences and you just explained it in a simple way! Would love to see a breakdown of all the different classes individually that way it gives you more insight what the differences are. This will help with the buying decisions. In the end we all have a budget to live in but even if the class 4 is within my budget, do I need and or want all the features they provide; maybe a lower class is better. This is the second video I have seen of yours and I loved both of them and have subscribed.
The one paid for! Great video, thanks for sharing. Keep up the good videos.
Thanks so much for watching :)
Master certified RV technician here. Tiffin is what I would buy, gas or diesel
Thanks for your feedback Bob
Matt, absolutely love your videos; especially this one that does a good job of relating the difference between the Tier levels. Not to mention all of the others that are unbiased reviews of what is liked/disliked about the individual unit being reviewed.
I remain hopeful that one day you will be able to spend the time to survey and rate service departments for the big dealers like General, Lazy Days, MHSRV and others. It seems that "service" in terms of the manufacturer supporting the dealers are hit and miss; priority is given to the larger diesel units and clientele wallet size as opposed to the others of us who can only afford say the Tier 1 and 2 units. It would be interstesting to know if the 80/20 rule applies here as well; where 80% of a dealer's profit comes from 20% of the customers who can afford the 300K - 1mil price tags.
Anyway, keep up the great work, tell Adrea hello and thanks for her work as well and keep the videos coming!
Thanks for the basic run down on this. I am just starting to look THe RVs
and I found this very helpful. I didn't know anything about any levels of that a tier even exists. Now I know what to look for. What about I look for and look out for in a used motorhome?
same thing! thanks so much send me an email if you have any questions on specifics
Yes I liked this video.. you seem honest and your entertainment. You also make a hell of a lot of sense.
It would seem to me that the most important thing is the drive train and the assembly method. Over time delamination issues are ones that no owner wishing if keeping their home for any period is the objective. All the buzzers and whistles are nice, but add costs and over time issues develop with them. Just like a car, buzzers, and whistles add costs and in the end, these tricks are the first to fail. This is a highly individual choice that depends on the money you wish to spend. In my mind, most people would be better off buying an older Trippin, Newmar, or Prevost than a newer model thor or one of the lesser brands. I have been watching RV videos for some time now and it seems to me having a consultant help determine what you really need is important, a weekender needs something different than someone wishing to spend a lot of time in their home.
As a first time RV buyer this is EXACTLY the information I was looking for. More points of comparison would be great. Do you have a similar level 1 vs level 4 models for Class A diesels?
Love the videos! I appreciate the breakdown of the different tiers. It really clears up many questions!
THANK YOU!! GREAT VIDEO AND I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT WITH NO MUSIC!!!
Thanks Matt, great info. My wife and I are getting ready to go full-time and are looking at different class a coaches.
Thor is subpar no matter what tier
Indeed. What Thor has done to Airstream is a shame!
Totally agree.
I notice rv dealers seem to have tons of Thors and Forest River rv's on their lots.
What has thor done to airstream? Honestly I dont know I dont deal with them
Matt's RV Reviews - Airstreams used to be THE premium trailer, best woods used, high if not highest quality components available. Then THOR bought Airstream, mildew/mold resistant plywood is no longer used for their flooring except a strip by the shower and entry door. When my foot went through the floor by the bed under a window, and I found out this is a VERY common problem that Airstream is very aware of... but it takes 5+ years to rot. Mildew and mold resistant plywood would have doubled the life or extended it indefinitely. What got my is the cost difference at Home Depot is $5 per sheet, or less than a hundred bucks for the whole floor for the entire unit. They saved less than a hundred bucks knowing that an over $20,000 repair cost would be paid later, out of warranty, by the owner. Their electric hitches have nylon gears, while the metal gear models cost less than $30 more but last years longer. Every component from the water pump to inverter all have a similar story. If I bought a stick built $40,000 I would expect this, but I paid almost $100,000 for my Airstream and did so BECAUSE of their reputation. When the DEALER tells you that you don’t want the Airstream replacement part, spend a few bucks more for this one that will last years longer, you get a little concerned. When my foot went through the floor and I found out Airstream KNEW about the problem, but to save about $80 I now have to pay over $20,000 to rebuild the entire trailer to replace the floor... I started getting mad. Airstream still makes one of the best, but THOR doesn’t realize that they are not dealing with the average customer. I am willing to pay for quality because I’ve had enough ruined vacations in cheap trailers and RV’s. I am looking at one of their trailers that is well over $100 grand now, and I wrote Airstream with a short wish list. Their response was that the dealer could do all of these upgrades for me for a nominal fee. Who spends $140,000 on a trailer new, then pays to remove, deconstruct it, to reinstall or upgrade the flooring, electrical, batteries, inverter etc.? So... I’m currently switching gears, looking for an older one I can rebuild to what Airstreams spec’s should have been in the first place.
Erin Thor
Very good response Erin and gave a very valid and poignant example how good names are sometimes lost in the past.
What’s even more frustrating as you pointed out is their charging current builds based on the quality of units that have been made in the past.
Short term profit will destroy a long-term good name!!
great video, Matt. I'm glad for the comparison info! Love your enthusiasm!
Thanks, I wish I had seen this before we purchased our last 2 motor homes. I would probably be happier today!
Its ok just make sure the next RV you buy you get everything you would like! thanks for watching
What about construction? Winnebago locking wall and roof system system vs sticks and staples and types of sides walls that wont delaminate?
Well I am not an expert on the construction part of it... But I was working the RV Show this weekend and the Factory Reps we there and every one of them talk about how what they do is the best... so I am not sure I am sorry
Jack, the locking part of the wall & roof system on the Winnebago's have nothing to do with whether or not they delaminate. Delamination is when the Fiberglass separates from the Luan it is laminated to. This is caused because Luan absorbs water and then the glue holding the fiberglass to it is gone. That is what Delamination is. Now, with that said the construction of the Winnebago is head and shoulders above many others out there. Walls that do not delaminate are ones that are a Hung Wall like in the Newmar. Since it is not a laminated wall, it can't delaminate. Hope that helps!
Newmars lower end models are built better than winnebago mid grade ones. No fake hubcaps, cheap outdoor and indoor hinges and subpar cheap slide gears and mechanisms
The Air Force Guy Learned 👍
Good Job. Explained a lot. Provides a tool to help you narrow down the choices to zero in on ‘the one’.
Excellent overview - everyone needs to see this. Thanks for this.
What’s the difference between a tier 2 and tier 3 features?
Matt’s videos are solid and consistent. I’ve seen about 50 of them.
Very interesting review but I would comment that beauty is only skin deep. Yes the level 4's all come with high end finishes but there is a reason Newmar and Tiffen have the reputations they do. The workmanship and the way they are constructed contribute to value as the cheaply made units will shake themselves apart after a few years.
Correct... but also because tiffin doesnt make a level 1 motorhome... if tiffin made a class A that sold for $100k then it would shake as well lol
Disagree. I bought based on the recommendations of a mobile RV repair guy with over 30 years of experience in the field. There are two level of components these are all built from - good and better. The number one factor is the build quality and then after sales manufacturer support. Newmar, Tiffin and Winnie are the top. Thor and Forest River are the bottom. It is so bad on some brands that not only will he not work on them due to the poor build quality but the manufacturer will approve warranty work and then refuse to pay later.
Thanks Matt. Nice to someone finally explain tier 1 - 4!!!
Well done. Great Info! it would be nice to see a more detailed review of class 1,2,3 and 4....
Matt i love you channel and how you helped to date on all the rv on the market .I like to know if you can do a review on tier 4 A class diesel motor coach with the msrp . like you did for the A class gas it would help your viewers make more informed on there future purchase
No problem Charlie... I will make one :)
As a full-timer the first thing I look at is suitability for my intended purpose rather than choosing a specific brand. The first thing I look at is carrying capacity. We like to boondock most of the time, so we will be adding a large, heavy solar system, and will be traveling with full fresh water and propane tanks. This means we need at least 4,000 lbs. carrying capacity, but the more the better. This disqualifies many gas motorhomes right out of the gate. We also look at tank capacity. It takes us about 110 gallons of water to make the 2wk BLM and FS camping limit. Also having sufficient gray tank capacity is important too. Next is good insulation, dual pane windows, etc. All the other nice to have things like a good floorplan will be considered after the MH meets this deal breaker criteria. This weeds out a lot of beautiful motorhomes that don't serve our unique needs. We don't want a high ground clearance, industrial looking overlander either, though they are more suitable for off road life they are hard to access (some have you climb a ladder) and most are diesel, priced right out of the ballpark, in mid-high range diesel territory.
I love your videos, Matt I’m thinking about purchasing a motorhome in the very near future
Great review of motorhomes. Thank you for your in-depth knowledge of the tiers...
Will always pick the Thor! Great video!
Thanks Matt for good objective reviews.
Great video, don’t know enough to comment on the different levels
Thanks Ben I Appreciate you watching
Nice stuff the information provided. It puts everything into relative perspective. Keep it up. Gonna buy Tippin Integra that you reviewed!!
I’m glad you give this information. It helps to put that information into my budget. What do I “want” to afford or what can I do without. Thank you.
First of all, thank you. I enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot from you and others. I am unfortunately in the position where I can only afford a gas Class A at this time in my life. Trying to decide between 2019 Emblem Entegra and Winnebago/Itasca Sunova. Opinions welcome.
Entegra Emblem ALL DAY EVERY DAY! I think Winnebago has really lost themselves in themselves and they have not kept up with the industry... then Entegra is doing an Amazing Job! We just got a 36U in at our dealership Ill be making a video on it tomorrow hopefully
ua-cam.com/users/mattsrvreviews Subscribe to my channel so you dont miss it
Thanks
Sounds legit! Just bought our Thor Miramar Class A - probably a tier 3 - but just what we wanted:)
Great info ! Love your unbiased review. Thank you
Thank you so much Aaron!
Winnebago bought Newmar so maybe they'll use the Newmar lineup as inspiration, or as a substitution for it's level 4 coach. Again, great info. I've had a level 1 and agree with all the points, we are in a level 2 or maybe 3 now, and I see the discrepancies you pointed out. Great great info. Good job Matt!
I love him and Andrea there always so upbeat and have great dispositions
Thank you sir for your completely honest options as always
This video was so helpful! Thank you for all the videos. They’re all great!
Great Video!! Informative AND funny!!!
Thank You So Much For Watching :)
Very helpful 👍 and you're right on the money when you say check out the dealership and their shop.
Love the video. Really good information and looking forward to some more videos.
Thank you so much debbie
I loved the video. Great info especially for a newbie who is thinking of getting into RV life.
Matt , thank you for the information. My question is what chassis package and gas engines do the manufactures use? Are they Ford, Chevy, Dodge P series van( think ups delivery truck) or are any Peter built TRUCK chassis? I just think for the size of a class A and 22.5” wheels diesel is the only way to go.
Larger brakes, more truck like.
All gas Engines are on a Triton V10 Engine... and the Chassis are called F-53 Chassis