Class A Gas Motorhome or Class A Diesel Motorhome?

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  • @yunengdahl3675
    @yunengdahl3675 3 роки тому +10

    Wow, thanks Matt. I'm a 50 year old Asian grandma, and you explained this in a way that I could easily understand. Very much appreciated.

  • @gavinbitz2563
    @gavinbitz2563 3 роки тому +11

    There is no way I could afford a diesel pusher new. No way. However I can afford a used one and I do most of the maintenance and work on it myself. My Newmar Dutch Star 8.3 cummins now has over 200,000 miles on it and runs like a champ, good luck having a gasser with that many miles on it in a motorhome. Its all diesel for me, have had many gassers and the lack of power and the wind factor driving down the road and noise levels we're the deal breaker for me. Great video!

  • @richardkoch8752
    @richardkoch8752 3 роки тому +16

    Matt, you are by far the straightest shooter on UA-cam!!!! Honesty is everything! Early in life before Law Enforcement I drove trucks of all kinds and heavy equipment for a living. The God's honest truth is if TAKEN CARE OF and following manufacturers maintenance recommendations, the gas engine CAN and WILL go 250,000 miles and beyond. The Diesel; probably to 1/2 million miles and way beyond. You will never drive it that much. I have had a gas engine go kaput and also a CAT. Diesel engine break a crank. Difference is: the gas engine can be swapped out or rebuilt for around $5K.....the Diesel: you'll probably need to refinance it......you can start at $30K and much higher........ouch!!!!
    I would go gas every time unless I had a huge wallet or if I traveled mountains constantly.....then that "Jake Brake" is awful nice to have.
    Please keep doing this type of video Matt!!!! You're the BEST!!!!!!!

    • @JourneymanJacob
      @JourneymanJacob 7 місяців тому +1

      Very substantive comment here. Thank you

    • @youngblood2
      @youngblood2 6 місяців тому +1

      My motto is "never run a diesel when a gasser will do"!

  • @jasongraham8250
    @jasongraham8250 3 роки тому +3

    I don’t call it miles per gallon, I call it smiles per gallon because you’re out having a good time.
    Salesman of the year right there folks.

  • @dariendukes4875
    @dariendukes4875 Рік тому +5

    I never realized that the gasoline motor homes were that much less expensive than the diesel powered ones, that's some eye opening information, thanks Matt

  • @MililaniJag
    @MililaniJag 4 роки тому +6

    Generally, Diesel Pusher for the Full Timer & Gasser is for the Short tripper & Seasonal/Snowbirds. Thx!

  • @danbear5254
    @danbear5254 3 роки тому +3

    I am an old trucker, the hum of a diesel just sounds and feels like home.

  • @d.jarrett6489
    @d.jarrett6489 10 місяців тому +5

    Honesty is always the best policy! Love how your straightforward with people.

  • @jperdue-u8b
    @jperdue-u8b Рік тому +3

    I cannot express how much I appreciate and honest, unbiased and informed opinion . . . THANK YOU

  • @josephinedittberner2670
    @josephinedittberner2670 3 роки тому +2

    You are so right. Is all up to what is important to each buyer.

  • @jnicksnewstart
    @jnicksnewstart 4 роки тому +31

    I've been watching Matt and Andrea's videos from almost his beginning. It never ceases to amaze me how candid and honest Matt's opinions are. I like how they always point out things that they don't like as well as things they like. If I was going to invest in a motorhome, a couple of phone calls and a plane ticket to see this guy in person may just be one of the cheapest Investments you've ever made.

  • @jeffturnbull3114
    @jeffturnbull3114 Рік тому +2

    As a RV Salesperson myself, I appreciate your honesty.

  • @rvhome5599
    @rvhome5599 4 роки тому +4

    We have a Tiffin Allegro red 37PA and love it.
    It’s a 2020 and it rides very nice, the air suspension make a huge difference, can’t even tell when a semi passes me with no modifications.
    I was surprised how good it is on fuel, we are total weight with the tow at 34000 pounds and we are at 9.8 miles per gallon , diesel.
    With the TST fuel card you will not pay more then gas fuel.
    Yes it cost more but when you trade it or sell it you do a lot better then a common gas RV.
    It’s all what you can afford and prefer, diesels with emissions can cause you grief, so extended warranty is advised.
    Thanks Matt for this and be honest

  • @tjztyger
    @tjztyger 4 роки тому +1

    Now. Let's do three things we like about Matt's video and three things we didn't like!
    Liked:
    1. Serious Matt. Very subdued & educational.
    2. Only 7 points to compare. Very streamlined.
    3. Using such similar coaches (Manufacturer, color, styling)
    Dislikes:
    1. No Andrea!
    2. Front, driving, rear & campsite noise comparisons for generator & engine.
    3. No actual road comparison, especially with a grade (I know it's impractical, but still would be helpful)

  • @jeffmckinney8929
    @jeffmckinney8929 4 роки тому +45

    Matt, great review and appreciate your honest opinions. We have owned both and I agree with your assessment of the 2 types. The only other thing I can add is it is much easier to fuel a diesel since you can use truck stops with plenty of room to maneuver. When we had a gas MH I had to carefully plan gas stops as we needed plenty of room to maneuver our 37 Footer with toad.

  • @Revnref
    @Revnref 4 роки тому +1

    I'm happy you don't push one over the other. By just pointing out the facts you let the consumer decide. Too many times, some rely upon the opinion of someone else and then are dismayed when what they get wasn't what fit them. Everyone has to do their own research. You provide the research.

  • @adrianalvarez9130
    @adrianalvarez9130 3 роки тому +11

    I’m gonna take the Disel

    • @youngblood2
      @youngblood2 6 місяців тому +1

      My motto is "never run a diesel when a gasser will do"!

  • @jefflennox9353
    @jefflennox9353 2 роки тому +1

    When looking for a class A motor home, I spoke to several mechanics at Rush Trucks to get their opinion. All four said the same thing, unless you need to climb grades at 70 or more and want to spend more on fuel and service go with the gas engine. As for ride, once I purchased six new tires, going from Michelin to Toyo with bead balancing, 😊the ride improved substantially since the Toyo tires have a wider footprint.

  • @wgreenjr81
    @wgreenjr81 4 роки тому +11

    0:59 Nailed it! Objectively the Diesel is always better. Subjectively will you as the individual consumer utilize it's benefits enough to justify the increased cost? That is where the sticking point is and why no one but the buyer can answer this question.

  • @anthonyreynolds4815
    @anthonyreynolds4815 3 роки тому +1

    Very well put, I'm a diesel mechanic by trade, 30 years. Yes diesel is better but we bought gas because we are part time campers maybe 12 trips a year. And this is our first Class A. More bells and whistle with gas for the $$$$. 2000 Tiffin 39 with V10

  • @MikeandBonnieAdventures
    @MikeandBonnieAdventures 4 роки тому +10

    You are so freakin' smart about RV's. This is your true calling in life! Keep making these Q&A videos!

  • @TM-tw1py
    @TM-tw1py 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent topic and analysis. Thanks!

  • @j.foobar1764
    @j.foobar1764 3 роки тому +3

    Another factor worth mentioning is the door placement. DPs tend to have bus-style doors which pushes the front passenger seat back and also makes an over-cab bunk less practical since you have to duck/crawl under it to get in/out (as well as possible move the ladder) if the bunk is deployed. Personally, I hate bus-style doors and prefer the cockpit design of a gasser. On the other hand, the bus-style door does get you that much more interior floorspace since you don't have to make room for steps in your living room.

  • @jhomrich89
    @jhomrich89 2 роки тому +2

    I think it's worth adding with the diesel you will also generally get a lot more interior appointments with the diesel than you would with a gas motorhome. As you said matt it really boils down to what are you doing with it and will it fit your needs. If you only put 3-5k miles each year and you can live without certain amenities and your tow vehicle is a small car a gasser will work for you. If however you are planning on going on longer distance trips and spending a bit more time in your RV or you need that extra towing capacity for whatever reason; you have a larger vehicle or trailer and prefer to have things such as washer dryer, more house like appliances the extra storage and ability to take more guests and you can stomach the extra expense, then a diesel is for you

  • @vernonetheridge6359
    @vernonetheridge6359 4 роки тому +4

    The only other thing I would have added on the cost of ownership would be the additonal cost of DEF to the diesel pusher as well. Great video Matt!!

  • @lindadurst2290
    @lindadurst2290 4 роки тому +1

    We have had a Gas Class A since 2011 now with over 50K miles and love it. We have taken it over 10K mountain passes without difficulty. Service has been easy to get. We usually take it to Ford. The Diesel is quieter inside while driving but that is just because the engine is in the back, don't try to sleep in the back of a diesel while it is going down the road. We lived in our Class A full time for almost 5 years. Now we use it 4-6 months a year. We will stay with the Gas Class A not worth the extra cost to us. Love our Bounder

  • @naominjg11
    @naominjg11 4 роки тому +17

    Thanks for the help as a salesman I find your comments honest and clear and you leave the finale decisson to the customer

  • @borquein
    @borquein 3 роки тому +1

    I had 2 gas class A Motorhome now I got my first Class A diesel pusher Motorhome RV I love my Rose Air By REXHALL on a Spartan chassis I now had it 2 days and I love her so much I love the glass engraving roses on the cabinets doors my mom pass away I keep her safe in the front cabinet on the top shelf we travel all over the place as much as possible thank you for all your awesome videos please let me know what I should do next thank you

  • @timmurr1672
    @timmurr1672 4 роки тому +29

    I had a gas it was a great Coach I now have a diesel it’s hard to describe the difference in the two. Better ride better handling better everything.

    • @concernedpatriot.2221
      @concernedpatriot.2221 3 роки тому +1

      Same here went from a georgetown class A gasoline to an itasca meridian 40u diesel pusher. The difference is night and day. There is no Comparison between the ride and build quality of a diesel compared to a gasoline. I will never get a gasoline class A ever again. The squeaks and rattles were horrendous on the gasoline. The diesel is well well worth paying the extra cost.

  • @sambergami7559
    @sambergami7559 4 роки тому +123

    I would like to see a comparison of a Class A and a Super C.

  • @jeeper5264
    @jeeper5264 4 роки тому +41

    Good info Matt...looking forward to the V-10 vs V8 compare video

    • @lmac9364
      @lmac9364 4 роки тому +4

      Interesting and useful information - would have liked to have seen the noise levels at the back of both rigs - if someone likes to sleep on highway how loud is it in the back of the diesel above the engine?

    • @jt31713
      @jt31713 3 роки тому

      The v8 has closed the gap a bit no doubt

  • @thebrucewagner
    @thebrucewagner 4 роки тому +21

    Excellent down to Earth, "tell it like it is" style, Matt. More of that.... is what the world needs. Thanks! Very informative. I learned so much in this one short video!

  • @n1njazx7
    @n1njazx7 4 роки тому +23

    I wish you had brought safety items like air brakes and exhaust brake on the diesel. This let's you go down step hills with more confidence .

    • @capwkidd
      @capwkidd 4 роки тому

      Exhaust breaks? Engine breaking?

    • @stephenf98
      @stephenf98 4 роки тому +2

      @@capwkidd Yes diesels have them - hence the moe $$$ you pay for a diesel - hence more $$ for maintenance -

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 4 роки тому

      Do air brakes really give you a shorter stopping distance, though? Typically the tire grip is the limiting factor of an emergency stop.

    • @stephenf98
      @stephenf98 4 роки тому

      @@directorjustin Of course tires are a factor in conjunction with your braking power - hence the bigger tires on a diesel pusher - or a tractor-trailer..

    • @n1njazx7
      @n1njazx7 4 роки тому

      @@stephenf98 and also the weight of the Diesel RV plays a role in traction.

  • @JohnDrivesAnything
    @JohnDrivesAnything 3 роки тому +1

    I sleep in a Ford Econoline Down by the River but I still enjoy watching these videos talking about if a RV costing $100,000 is that much better lol

  • @lbuondelmonte
    @lbuondelmonte 4 роки тому +30

    Hi Matt, my husband is listening closely, we ARE asking the question ourselves. Hi Andrea!

    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 3 роки тому

      Its really simple. If you are just going to the lake or to see the grandkids once a year or so? Go Gas. If you are planning on being on the road for weeks at a time every year? Diesel is the only way to go. Gas motorhomes are good for about 75k miles before the motor will be toast. And their maintenance intervals are 4 times as often as a diesel coach. I had a 96 with the V10 and got rid of it after a year and bought a used diesel pusher for less than what I paid for the first one. Much happier.

  • @uppersabinevalleyswmd9753
    @uppersabinevalleyswmd9753 3 роки тому +1

    Matt, you say don't listen to my friends, but I think you're my friend. I'll just not take your advice this one time. Love what you are doing.

  • @Stormpix
    @Stormpix 4 роки тому +35

    Really love these new FAQ segments. I really like how you explain things, and your honesty is very much appreciated. Can't wait to see more!

  • @Powerstroke98
    @Powerstroke98 3 роки тому +3

    I researched online mainly, and ended up with a preowned diesel pusher. Possibly the favourite things I like is that I have a fuel-fill door on both sides, so both lead to the tank so if one side is full at the RV pumps, I can just use the other side and fill. We truly like how quiet it is up front, where we can have a conversation without competing with the engine noise! Third and perhaps one of the most important is the exhaust brake on the diesel, where gassers don't have one, so we have secondary braking, where on some hills you never have to touch the service brake pedal as the engine/turbo is doing the braking for you. Generally, the diesel has more power, but that wasn't a factor for us, as I'm never in a hurry anyway. I'll mention too, again...generally the diesel coach has a diesel generator, which is often much quieter than a gas generator, at least the built in models like we have. Maintenance is usually less on a gasser, but I do my own usually, along with the 'fix-it's, as it's good to feel confident that it's maintained well.

  • @markparham3759
    @markparham3759 4 роки тому +7

    Please do that video Class A to Super C. This was great! I sent a question thru the website and have not heard back :(. Great channel and reviews

  • @halfairbank6967
    @halfairbank6967 2 роки тому

    We are on our 5th motorhome 4 Winabeggos' in a row 3 gas and finally a Vectra Diesel. Now we are in a Holiday Rambler Endeavor Diesel. Our last two were diesels, and I cant describe how much more we love our diesels. There is no comparison for us!. Glad you came right out and said it in the first minute of the video.

  • @kennyburns3338
    @kennyburns3338 4 роки тому +8

    Matt (and Andrea)
    You’re doing a lot of good for the RV community, and for those not yet a part of it!
    Personally, Partial to diesel pusher...
    Keep it up guys!!

    • @Dobermanator
      @Dobermanator 4 роки тому

      I agree with you and one thing Matt mentioned is the interior finishing on diesel are typically solid, not thin light weight materials and that makes a difference if you plan ownership for a longer period imo. I think a trick might be for someone is to have a look at a 5 - 10 year old gas and a diesel and see for themselves how they wear inside.

  • @janicelennon2198
    @janicelennon2198 4 роки тому +1

    This is definitely a “save” video because there was so much information I didn’t know. Also, it’s been my observation that there are more gas stations, than stations that sell diesel. In another video, I saw a guy who liked that he could use the diesel, in place of propane. He said with his last gas R.V., everyone had to leave the vehicle to fill up his propane tanks, for safety rules. Thanks Matt for the great information!

  • @nyafret8329
    @nyafret8329 4 роки тому +21

    Waiting for the Super C comparison!

  • @keithsaunders1046
    @keithsaunders1046 3 роки тому

    EPIC. You make it so simple. Looking to either continue upgrades or move up. Always wanted a diesel. Not so sure now. 26 foot Georgie Boy Pursuit. 2 people and a dog. Never had a bad time travelling. 454 Chevy gas. 60K miles. Working on cosmetics and the roof. We have a blast. Wish I had a 45 foot Prevost. But a 36 foot anything diesel would be the bomb. We'll keep rolling. Don't go far anyway. LOL. Thanks Matt

  • @charlotteforrester3118
    @charlotteforrester3118 4 роки тому +25

    Love this Q&A! You answered a lot questions on the difference. It’s refreshing to see someone more interested in customer satisfaction. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @davek6653
    @davek6653 4 роки тому +1

    Great video agree with you completely. We have a newmar canyon star and have liquid spring suspension on rear and will be putting on front here shortly. That gives us are diseal ride with much of the comforts of diseal amenities inside with a bunch of money left in the bank.

  • @andrewdhicks32407
    @andrewdhicks32407 4 роки тому +72

    This will be one of your most watched vids. Good job brother

  • @theoriginalcall888mrhandy8
    @theoriginalcall888mrhandy8 3 роки тому

    AWESOME -HONEST - I usually do not watch your whole videos.Though this Video made me really Like and Appreciate your candor and honesty. Well said. Do not try to be the fanciest or be over burdened with payments. How much do you use it. Campgrounds are all Full , maxed out and Expensive, some over $ 100 a night, the average is about $79.00 a night. Factor this with maintenance , fuel , driving, payments, insurance and towing or renting a car when you get to your location. You can stay in 5 Star Two Bedroom Suite resorts the rest of your life every year. So if you are using the Motorhome at least 15-30 days a year. Go for it. If you are well off and money is no issue. Go for it. Though driving or sitting. They cost money. Great Video Matt. I now almost like you as much as A.S. Your about a Shasta away : - )

  • @jeffrice5373
    @jeffrice5373 4 роки тому +9

    As a Gas class A owner, I agree with everything Matt said. No matter what RV you buy your still going to get to your destination.

  • @autotomk
    @autotomk 6 днів тому

    2000 win. Journey 34B
    67k, new carpet&tile through out. All interior in very good shape. Exterior not so much. Some delam. Paint not so good. Roof no signs of water intrusion. Very good shape. Had water intrusion at some point in the 25 year life. But it is currently sealed up as good as factory. Maintenance records back to 2003. That is rare. Bottom line you can do a diesel on a nothing budget. Most important on used is Maintenance records and no water intrusion and good interior. Forget the jonses or pay way more. We paid 20K. Very happy. Oh 9.3 mpg.👍

  • @JandAReview1
    @JandAReview1 4 роки тому +13

    Getting a diesel worked on will cost you a lot more for sure.

  • @barbaradowney4207
    @barbaradowney4207 4 роки тому

    I don't think there is a perfect or better RV, it's which is the right one for you. We all have different needs and likes and budgets. Thanks Matt.

  • @dougperkins2036
    @dougperkins2036 4 роки тому +45

    Do the comparison of a super c vs class A!

    • @Twatkins48489
      @Twatkins48489 3 роки тому +2

      Slim watching this from Wash D.C. u are the most honest person being straight forward about selling these Motorhomes!!! If I was looking I would fly to wherever u are and buy from U!!! Great super Great Review!!! U make a person want to buy one I am really blown away by your honesty sir!!

  • @josephochoa5558
    @josephochoa5558 4 роки тому

    Your summary at the conclusion is right on point, When I went looking of course I heard "a diesel is better", however for someone that only RVs 4 months a year and covers 3-4 thousand miles. I could not justify the increased purchase and ownership cost. I used a little of the money I save to improve the suspension and totally enjoy my gasser even towing a car four down. If money was not a factor at all, then sure a diesel, but you can get more "smiles per dollar" from a gasser. Oh and a little FatMat sound insulation for the dog house did a lot for the sound

  • @Over60sowhat
    @Over60sowhat 4 роки тому +6

    Wow!! We've enjoyed all your videos, Matt and we give this one the highest score! Excellent job!!

  • @larrynmarks
    @larrynmarks 4 роки тому

    I bought a secondhand 27-year-old Fleetwood pace arrow diesel pusher with only 80,000 miles on it they use it every year they had it since it was three years old so for 24 years they drove down to the coast of California and were people that cared for the park and took care of it they were the host of the park. It has solid oak interior it has tile countertops it is a very nice motorhome and I am learning how to maintain it because it is very expensive to maintain it has different moving parts it’s got bigger tires everything Matt said is true but it is splendid to drive and it is 27 years old. Nice job Matt thank you sir nice presentation. And Andrea you had a lot to say today LOL. Thanks you guys

  • @victoriarice223
    @victoriarice223 4 роки тому +5

    Appreciate all the information regarding gas and diesal motorhomes. Also, do appreciate your unbiased opinions.

  • @district12-
    @district12- 3 роки тому

    I'm not even looking for a Class A, but I can't stop watching Matt!

  • @tammy3458
    @tammy3458 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks so much for taking the time to make this comparison! I’m in the research phase of buying a motorhome & can’t decide between a diesel or gas motor! This helps a ton!!!

    • @dirtpeople3101
      @dirtpeople3101 2 роки тому +1

      Please let us know what your decision was. Thanks

  • @chuckleingang7530
    @chuckleingang7530 4 роки тому +1

    At this point we are in to towables but love your videos and watch and enjoy them.

  • @scottrushford2308
    @scottrushford2308 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much Matt for doing the side by side comparisons. There is so much contradictory information out there and it was nice to get an unbiased perspective. My wife and I are in the research part of our journey to full time RVing and we love your show.

  • @craigc3259
    @craigc3259 11 місяців тому

    Our first motorhome was a 2003 31’ class c… we drove the crap out of it. Kids, boat, river trips was great. Now about to retire and going to go travel for 2 years so we found an amazing deal on a 2012 Liberty triple slide coach. This is a home on wheels, tons of room and storage and can tow anything.
    Start gas then if you need diesel then make the move.

  • @leannkarpenske7256
    @leannkarpenske7256 4 роки тому +8

    I loved the video. I really didn't know what the differences were. I love the way you explain things. Thanks, Matt!❤️

  • @Prokillier
    @Prokillier 2 роки тому

    Great Video Matt....You hit all the nails on the head. We upgraded from a 36 Gasser to a 40 ft Diesel and one of the biggest reasons was the ability to put fuel in the Gasser. I guess it is not so amazing to figure out that gas stations are not really designed for 36ft gassers pulling a toad...and it was very frustrating to get fuel. We do not encounter that with or Diesel pusher and you can also fill up from either side.....added plus. Yeah, I know 21st-century problems. I agree with the fact the fuel mileage is about the same and that the drivers and how they drive make huge contributions to MPG...but if you are towing and traveling in the mountains the pusher to gas is like coming out of the dark and into the light....it rides better, handles better and it feels so much safer. In my opinion, it's also better built. I appreciate all you, Andrea, and Will do Keep up the great work

  • @dearbulls
    @dearbulls 4 роки тому +8

    Good review, Matt. I love you bringing them onto the road and compare the driving. Please do more for other models, and add more feelings, etc. Also, how the headlight performance at night? I love the look of these Entegra, but how do they perform in the real world at night or in heavy rains? Our whole family's life depending on the safety of the vehicle if we purchase a class A. I'd love to see how safe these class As are.

  • @bypinkerton892
    @bypinkerton892 3 роки тому

    I really appreciated this unbiased information....
    Many times people feel they must go overboard to get what they really... Don't Need.....

  • @saltysteveandmisfitmichele
    @saltysteveandmisfitmichele 4 роки тому +21

    Smiles per gallon! Love it.

  • @garykrueger7740
    @garykrueger7740 4 роки тому

    We have owned both a 38ft gas and currently own a 38ft diesel; I never felt confident that the gas motorhome could be stopped safely in an emergency. The air brakes on the diesel motorhome bring that confidence. I agree with Plymouth Man regarding the impact of the exhaust brakes when traversing hills.

  • @bravoproductioninc
    @bravoproductioninc 4 роки тому +5

    Has the Godzilla engine made any difference in getting a gas class A ?

  • @Readit4Life_2Chron7_14
    @Readit4Life_2Chron7_14 2 роки тому

    Excellent comparison review from a realistic point of view with no side bars or silly stuff in between. Our time is precious to us as well. Thank U

  • @bereniceforward461
    @bereniceforward461 3 роки тому +4

    Dynamite information in a short period of time. Entertaining as always, thank you Matt!

  • @genehall1049
    @genehall1049 4 роки тому

    Matt, we bought our first Motorhome in June, a 2000 Newmar Dutch Star 38’ Diesel Pusher. When we purchased it we had done over 2 years of research and watching RVTrader to find the perfect Coach. While I agree that Diesel costs a bit more to maintain we found one that had been maintained meticulously by the one and only owner so we were able to land a great deal on a great Coach. Sine June we have traveled from AZ to Virginia and back and logged over 17K miles. This is the primary reason we wanted a diesel Pusher. While not full time we are retired and want to see as much of the.country as possible. PS it drives like a dream. 😁

  • @jeeper5264
    @jeeper5264 4 роки тому +7

    More Super C Video's PLEASE...pretty please :)

  • @donwhitehead5705
    @donwhitehead5705 4 роки тому

    Hey Matt, a deal breaker for my wife is most diesel pushers have a step for the rear bath, walk-in closet, and/or one side of the bed over the engine.

  • @deanh7190
    @deanh7190 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Matt,
    We have owned both a Class A gas and Class A Diesel Pusher.
    1) Price difference:Isn't just for the engine /transmission package as the diesel pusher (DP) is going to have upgrades throughout the interior & exterior as well as other mechanical systems like water heater, suspension, heater, luxury accouterments, etc which are included at the higher overall price (which Matt points out at the end of the video).
    2) length: valid debate. The shorter the coach, the more camp sites you can fit into. That's why the shortest 35-37' DPs are so desirable. Our 1st RV was a 32' gas class A and we fit everywhere. Our current RV is a 37' DP and we fit into most State Parks & National Parks. However, you can fit just about anything into private parks but they are usually more expensive since they receive no State or Federal subsidies, are outside desirable National Parks, and vary as to their upkeep.
    3) Ride: no comparison. The F53 sits on leaf springs front & rear while the Diesel pusher rides on air bags and in some cases with independent front suspension. The F53 can be modded to perform better but even then, the DP will ride better. Tire size does matter as Matt points out. The larger footprint provides greater stability but also can run lower tire pressures and still meet the weight carrying requirements. If your budget points to gas, research and do the worthwhile upgrades.
    4) Noise: The gas engine rides upfront between the driver & passenger seats under an insulated 'doghouse' engine cover while the DP is out back. Standing/ idling sound OK, Getting to 60 mph...DP is quicker & quieter...Climbing hills (not mentioned)...No comparison. The gas will be revving very high and trans downshifting as low as possible while the DP will crush the hill with locomotive type strength with much lower RPMs. (Depends on engine size...Ours is a Cummins L9 w/450 hp / 1,250 ft lbs of torque). Again, owned both and have crossed the Rockies. Edit ~ Not mentioned: Braking performance. What goes up must come down. The diesels offer engine braking. Ours is 2 stage (3 or all 6 cylinder exhaust valve opening) which is great. We descend hills at the posted speed while in full control. Gas you can downshift but will be pushing revs near the limit.
    5)Exterior Storage: Matt explains the differences very well. However, some gas models, even though shorter than the DP, will have greater storage in measured cubic feet but will not have the pass through advantage. Still, plenty of room with either. Load your unit and go camping...then come home and take out all the stuff you didn't need😉.
    6)Towing: Bravo Matt!... for pointing out that your rig should be weighed before towing. We load ours up for travel mode...full tank fuel, fresh water tank full, etc and drive to a truck stop where they usually have a CAT Scale. Safety first.
    7)Ownership Cost: Don't overlook resale differences but Matt's Final Opinion & Closing Thoughts are 100% accurate. Well done Matt.

  • @ChatGPT1111
    @ChatGPT1111 3 роки тому

    Learned a lot even though I had a large Class A gas model (2014 Thor Outlaw) for many years. If we full time, its diesel for sure!

  • @ganderoffroad5468
    @ganderoffroad5468 4 роки тому +4

    Love the review of differences. Wpuld be nice to see a review about maintenance for rv's.

    • @jlarm3
      @jlarm3 4 роки тому

      If his video showed maintenance shops, then you would really get pissed off!!! They are necessary evils, but I wouldn't give you a dime for any of them. All are SLOW, INEFFICIENT AND COSTLY!!!

    • @ganderoffroad5468
      @ganderoffroad5468 4 роки тому +1

      @@jlarm3 not shops, like what things you should know about when you buy an rv. Like what you need to know about maintenance. On a rv , or travel trailer or 5th wheel. And what you should consider when you decide.

  • @markcorson3752
    @markcorson3752 4 роки тому

    I watch your videos because you are an honest man.

  • @ElizabethHernandez-mq7eh
    @ElizabethHernandez-mq7eh 3 роки тому +3

    I want to see the super C comparison too!

  • @Momster89
    @Momster89 2 роки тому

    Have had both a gasser and now a diesel. If you have short trips, young kids and/or a very tight budget, there are some nice gassers. We moved up to a diesel for a better ride, less noise and more power, bigger tanks including fuel, more slides and overall better floor plans. The diesel has more items to service but we love ours.

  • @MF-qt6ou
    @MF-qt6ou 4 роки тому +11

    This is going to be so educational.

  • @Disciplyne
    @Disciplyne 9 місяців тому

    This is the best, yes I said THE BEST, video that gives the facts about the difference between gas and diesel motorhomes! Well worth watching and so helpful! I've been shopping for a compatible used RV for fulltime living in my later years. I grew up driving diesel trucks and semis, so am very confident in driving them. But I always wondered if the difference was great enough to justify the cost difference between the gas rig or the diesel one. Matt does such a good job of explaining it, and even revealed a few things I was not aware of before. Highly Recommend Matt's video to anyone looking to purchase an RV.

  • @luthersg
    @luthersg 4 роки тому +4

    Great video! I have been looking for someone to do this comparison! I would love to have a diesel pusher but I just don’t think the cost is worth it for the amount of trips we will be taking. Also I think as far as on the road repairs, I think it will be a lot easier to find Ford dealers around to work on these motors if something goes wrong with it.

  • @roberthamilton9245
    @roberthamilton9245 2 роки тому

    From your reviews is the reason why we picked up a class a Diesel Pusher went down to Tampa Bay Florida picked it up from Lazy Days. Best buying experience ever!

  • @rickvance9460
    @rickvance9460 3 роки тому +5

    They both get you from point A to point B
    So I think gas 🌬 is a great choice. Plus they are both equipped for comfort. Great video Matt. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @TNWisky7
    @TNWisky7 2 роки тому

    How You camp that's Awesome Advice. I like the Fact that You keep it real and Honest with People. You are really One of the Best.

  • @cheryljohnson4292
    @cheryljohnson4292 4 роки тому +4

    I wish they made 22 23 foot class A
    Seems Diesel generators are loud

    • @stratman50th
      @stratman50th 4 роки тому

      I have a diesel generator and it's pretty quiet. If I have it on while driving it's kind of a low rumble or hum on the inside. Outside might be a little louder than a diesel pickup idling, but not by much.

    • @jlarm3
      @jlarm3 4 роки тому +1

      OK, here's the funny part. The smaller diesel gens (6KW) are louder than the larger ones (10-12.5KW). I think the larger ones operate at a lower RPM. If you get into the big Prevost conversions, they install those 20KW gens in a soundproof box and really quiet them down. (because they are liquid cooled). Also the diesel gens seem quieter because they generally are mounted up front in the nose, rather than near the rear by the bedroom.

    • @stratman50th
      @stratman50th 4 роки тому

      @@jlarm3 This could be true. I have a 12.5 Onan Quietgen in the nose. It's a 3 cylinder, water cooled Kabota. Never really paid much attention to the smaller generators.

  • @jamesemory7331
    @jamesemory7331 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the breakdown. I was one of the people who ask you the what’s the difference question. I get it now. This is the best intro video to start your search with. Thank you!

  • @MyRebel44
    @MyRebel44 4 роки тому +9

    I’m looking for a gas motor home that I can full time in .

    • @tjztyger
      @tjztyger 4 роки тому +1

      My parents full time in a 2005 Fleetwood Southwind with the 8.1L Chevy & Allison 5 speed. Been a good coach for them.

    • @traelee
      @traelee 4 роки тому +2

      Check out the Entegras that Matt was showing in this video. We just bought a gas Vision XL and are really happy with the quality. We don't feel like we sacrificed much by not spending an extra 100K on a DP. Interior is very modern with no carpet, has solid counter tops, plenty of storage bays etc

    • @lindadurst2290
      @lindadurst2290 4 роки тому +1

      We Full timed in our 2011 Fleetwood Bounder (Gas) for almost 5 years. Now we use it 4-6 months a year and it has worked well for us.

    • @stevest.martin3940
      @stevest.martin3940 4 роки тому +2

      MyRebel44 buy a Tiffin with a floor plan you like hands down the best company only company still family owned

  • @fredklapetzky2698
    @fredklapetzky2698 4 роки тому

    Before we bought our DP, we were advised to find the floor plan we really wanted first. You live on the inside. I we spent the last 4 years living in it. The ride really matters, the comfort driving it was wonderful, it worked out well. Yes they cost money to maintain, but they all will cost money to maintain. We’ll be selling ours next year as our lifestyle is changing again for a few years. I would be very interested in the DP to Super C comparison as well. It will be hard getting a motorhome without all the power we have in this one for sure!!!

  • @suekesse7898
    @suekesse7898 4 роки тому +1

    I wish you could go on channel of GAC rv. Because those shows are old shows and i think you a n.v d general rv would be great for that channel. I love the diesel. I would also like to see comparison super c to a class a. Your reviews are very education. Thank you

  • @GUITARATORY
    @GUITARATORY 2 роки тому

    Great video. Always take in consideration the brakes. You cannot compare air brakes to hydraulic brakes. Especially when towing anything. Plus diesels have engine brakes. Brakes are more important than anything else. Also generator size. Generator placement and access. Diesels have generators in the front when you’re sleeping or taking a nap and your generators on you are usually in the back very quiet. I fix all my heavy equipment when I need a lift I bring my trucks to my diesel mechanic. He told me there was a Tiffin gas motor home it looks great until he looked underneath he told the owner be very careful going downhill do not tell anything heavy because of the lack of Breaking power. Scary.
    Everything‘s fine until you’re in a situation and you can’t stop.
    Hydraulic brakes are not for me or my family. Take it slow. Start at the top of the Hill slow even embarrassingly slow. Keep the speed down. I don’t post much but I truly love everyone even if they’re not nice so be safe all.

  • @rossmontani5557
    @rossmontani5557 Місяць тому

    I just bought a 30 foot gas,,I went with gas because I can wrench it myself,I can do spark plugs,oil changes,filters,brakes,etc.I don’t have to pay the outrageous service cost on a diesel pusher. The noise up front doesn’t bother me at all,once you’re up to speed you don’t hear the engine. Went with a short because I can still get it into the lakes and boondocks,only limitations being water tank size,easy to work around that. I’ve had a diesel and won’t ever go back…

  • @EverettOKeefeJ
    @EverettOKeefeJ Рік тому

    Matt, you mention you have another video where you go through 4 different levels of motorhome appointments. I can't find it though I searched through all your video listings. AND WOW you have done a TON of videos. Impressive!

  • @robbiemcvane1046
    @robbiemcvane1046 3 роки тому

    My Diesel pusher gets 12.1 miles per gallon. Our V10 was 6/7 on a lot of down hills! Good video enjoyed! You were right on tag axle coach, 8 on rear with 2 drive tires! 10

  • @richardpasco9617
    @richardpasco9617 3 роки тому

    Great video. Diesel= power, air ride and quality. Gas= lack of power, spring ride and lower quality( lighter).

  • @lazarogonzalez1771
    @lazarogonzalez1771 4 роки тому

    What I feel is that you are honest that is a great thing

  • @mahande
    @mahande 3 роки тому

    As a owner of a Ckass A Diesel RV, I found this video to be quite helpful for people to gain more insights between the two versions.

  • @marydaniels3095
    @marydaniels3095 3 роки тому

    There are two additional areas that should be talked about
    1) Sound: the gas RV is going to have more squeaks and rattles simply because of the mechanical connection between the tires and the frame. A diesel RV, in most cases, has an air ride suspension. While you will get some rattles, most of them are eliminated by the air ride suspension.
    2) Terrain: the world ain't flat. If you have ever taken a gas RV up a hill, you know just how much they slow down and what it takes for them to make it to the top. Do they eventually make it? Yes. Does that V10 work it's butt off? Yes it does. Now take a diesel RV up that same hill. Will it slow down? Yes. As much as the gas RV? Nope. Does the diesel engine have to work really hard? If you have a smaller engine it might. For the 380's to 450's it's not much of a strain.
    Matt's bottom line was right on point. If you're going to use the features of a diesel regularly then you should buy a diesel RV. If not, a gas RV is the right choice for you.
    Good job Matt!

  • @lindahaughfrey5822
    @lindahaughfrey5822 3 роки тому +1

    I love my Kountry Aire Diesel 38ft.
    I had a gas class A, smaller coachman
    It seemed it was made cheap