I love the way you show multiple ways to knit back and forth. Shadow wraps are probably my favorite short rows as they seem to disappear best in much of the knitted work. As always, excellent tutorial!
How would that be used in the round, so that the WS wrap doesn’t create a hole on the WS when going back to knitting in the round? Your book described it for W&T and German short rows.
Thanks for the instruction. I understand how to do short rows I just don’t understand the concept behind short rows. Can I ask why stop 3 stitches before the “doubled stitch” to do the next shadow wrap? I follow a very similar technique to do my sock heels but every stitch has the shadow wrap. Thanks again. Stay safe and healthy.
I am showing an example in this video. The pattern I am using has three stitches between each turn. To understand the concept, try drawing it out. Take a look at this tutorial that shows a drawing of short rows. Now try taking graph paper and draw your own. See how the shape changes depending on how many stitches are between each turns. Think about stacking rows of bricks. If one row had 10, and then the next row had 8, then 6, then 4, then 2, that would make one shape. If one row had 10, and the next row had 6 and the next row had 2 that would make a different shape. Take a look here:pattylyons.com/2018/04/substituting-german-short-rows-for-wt-short-rows/
Patty Lyons thank you. I always appreciate your, in-depth, but no non-sense approach to knitting. I could never master the German Twisted Cast on (and I’m German) until I watched one of your videos. 🤷🏼♀️💕
Maybe only swatching will tell me,… but since both shadow wraps are lifted inc R, they are the SAME on RS - not MIRROR images. Wouldn’t mirror imaged turns actually “match” more symmetrically?
You are always turning on the same stitch the pattern class for (don't mix up the turn with the HOW you turn), but German short rows makes a double stitch on the last worked stitch, Shadow wrap and W & T create their joining method on the first unworked stitch. So what marks the turn is different. Read about how to substitute here: pattylyons.com/2018/04/substituting-german-short-rows-for-wt-short-rows/
Can shadow wrap replace wrap and turn short rows without mods? (Vs. replacing wrap and turn with German short rows ). Also, can these shadow wrap replace German short rows ? Why would you choose one over another? Thanks!
Yep, The difference is with W&T and Shadow Wrap is it is the first UNWORKED stitch that is wrapped, with German Short Row it's the last WORKED stitch that is doubled.
Patty Lyons thank you! Is shadow wrap preferable to regular wrap and turn? Why / in what instance would one choose German short rows instead of shadow wrap?
Patty Lyons I appreciate your answer! I love that you are so thoughtful and thorough in your teaching. It’s a beginner’s mind question. I have recently purchased 90% of your video classes and just purchased the volition kal class. I’m sure I will find my answers in there! Thank you for all you do!
Not at all bizarre. It is a knitter that doesn't turn their work for the WS row. Makes working charts, short rows, entrelac, bobbles and so many other things soooo much easier. You can learn how to do it in this class: pattylyons.com/product/improve-your-knitting/
![A better way to knit German short rows [and why yours may look all wrong]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/i_F8A5Lyz88/mqdefault.jpg)
I love the way you show multiple ways to knit back and forth. Shadow wraps are probably my favorite short rows as they seem to disappear best in much of the knitted work. As always, excellent tutorial!
BEST description and demo of this technique! Patty, you are the best!
Never in my life have I seen a tutorial that shows a technique for backwards knitters, I always had to reverse engineer the stitches. Thank you!!
All my classes demo that (short rows, lace, brioche). You can check out my classes here: education.pattylyons.com/
You are an excellent knitting teacher, so clear and concise. Thank you 😊
❤
Wow, another way to do short rows, so clean and easy and there are no holes. Thanks for the lesson Patty.
looks so clean, and no holes. I love it.
Vous expliqué bien pour que j'apprenne le point. Merci ❤
Vous êtes vraiment les bienvenus
Thanks for a very clear demonstration!
Thanks for the extra demo for us backward knitters! :)
Loves me some backwards knitting!!
How would that be used in the round, so that the WS wrap doesn’t create a hole on the WS when going back to knitting in the round? Your book described it for W&T and German short rows.
Thanks for the instruction. I understand how to do short rows I just don’t understand the concept behind short rows. Can I ask why stop 3 stitches before the “doubled stitch” to do the next shadow wrap? I follow a very similar technique to do my sock heels but every stitch has the shadow wrap. Thanks again. Stay safe and healthy.
I am showing an example in this video. The pattern I am using has three stitches between each turn. To understand the concept, try drawing it out. Take a look at this tutorial that shows a drawing of short rows. Now try taking graph paper and draw your own. See how the shape changes depending on how many stitches are between each turns. Think about stacking rows of bricks. If one row had 10, and then the next row had 8, then 6, then 4, then 2, that would make one shape. If one row had 10, and the next row had 6 and the next row had 2 that would make a different shape. Take a look here:pattylyons.com/2018/04/substituting-german-short-rows-for-wt-short-rows/
Patty Lyons thank you. I always appreciate your, in-depth, but no non-sense approach to knitting. I could never master the German Twisted Cast on (and I’m German) until I watched one of your videos. 🤷🏼♀️💕
But, how strong are these heels...looks like they would be more prone to getting holes?
Is this used more for a certain type sock...like lace, for example, since they do not look as durable as the flap type heel?
Brilliant! 👍🏽
Patty, can you use this when a pattern that is ribbing and calls for wrap and turn?
Maybe only swatching will tell me,… but since both shadow wraps are lifted inc R, they are the SAME on RS - not MIRROR images. Wouldn’t mirror imaged turns actually “match” more symmetrically?
Do you do this on the same stitch that the wrap and turn calls for? The count changes w German short row- . Thanks
You are always turning on the same stitch the pattern class for (don't mix up the turn with the HOW you turn), but German short rows makes a double stitch on the last worked stitch, Shadow wrap and W & T create their joining method on the first unworked stitch. So what marks the turn is different. Read about how to substitute here: pattylyons.com/2018/04/substituting-german-short-rows-for-wt-short-rows/
Thank you, I did the shadow wrap on the piece I am working in currently! Love it
Patty, can I use this with 2x2 ribbing that calls for wrap and turn?
sure
Awesome tutorial! Question, can this be used on a cuff down sock to make a heel? There’s no gusset, right?
If it's a pattern for a short row heel, this is just a way of doing short rows.
Patty Lyons thanks!
Can shadow wrap replace wrap and turn short rows without mods? (Vs. replacing wrap and turn with German short rows ). Also, can these shadow wrap replace German short rows ?
Why would you choose one over another? Thanks!
Yep, The difference is with W&T and Shadow Wrap is it is the first UNWORKED stitch that is wrapped, with German Short Row it's the last WORKED stitch that is doubled.
Patty Lyons thank you! Is shadow wrap preferable to regular wrap and turn?
Why / in what instance would one choose German short rows instead of shadow wrap?
@@elliez7269 Many considerations. Hard for me to sum up a 3 hr short row class in a free youtube though :)
Patty Lyons I appreciate your answer! I love that you are so thoughtful and thorough in your teaching. It’s a beginner’s mind question. I have recently purchased 90% of your video classes and just purchased the volition kal class. I’m sure I will find my answers in there! Thank you for all you do!
@@PattyLyonsKnitting How do you do double wraps on shadow wraps though
What is a backward knitter? Seems bizarre
Not at all bizarre. It is a knitter that doesn't turn their work for the WS row. Makes working charts, short rows, entrelac, bobbles and so many other things soooo much easier. You can learn how to do it in this class: pattylyons.com/product/improve-your-knitting/
Thank you very much ;)