Man so glad pranka keeps talking about walls and not stopping bullets. I've mentioned this on and off and conversations for 20 years and way more than half the time the people are taken a back. Such a common sense thing but largely not considered in training WTH
Especially with how you can actually train with this in mind. I think it was Chris Palmer who said sometimes they set up their shoot houses with butcher paper walls so they can shoot through them with sims and it totally alters what people are able to get away with. There's really no reason why more facilities couldn't do this. I've seen photography studios use really wide ceiling mounted rolls for white paper backdrops, it would be really easy to just set up 4 of those and pull down more paper whenever you've shot up your current "wall".
I believe the Cleveland team Matt refers to is ours, Southeast Area Law Enforcement (SEALE) SWAT serving Cuyahoga County. We are in Cleveland over 50% of the time but we're not Cleveland PD SWAT. We're a p/t team with a busy op tempo of about 50-70 ops per year. I call on Matt for advice regularly (and now Dallas SWAT). We are definitely on an island for still being dynamic in this part of the country.
It’s good that people are finally seeing this. It used to be that if someone was a cop they were seen as some expert authority, but in the past few years, shooting skill amongst civilians has gotten so good that they’re seeing how shitty a bunch of the LEO and even military fundamentals are.
Awesome practical information brother. Snails pace along with rabbit pace has its place in the combative realm. But you have to vet each tactic with vetting the pace of which you proceed in the event. Thank you for this video.
Hey man- love these videos but is there any chance you could add a date of the original recording to the video description? Nice to get some perspective/ context on how current the info is. Although I’ve noticed MPXA sticks pretty close to center over time… anyway figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.
Inferring from what’s been said in the past, I don’t think he’s talking about elite level hard skills either. It is a bit cringe that “gun professionals” are as bad as they are, but, as they say, it is what it is.
I'm pretty sure that has already happened. He might not have interviewed him but I know he has mentioned them and I'm pretty sure he said their technique is garbage. But I could be wrong- our boy Sofit here would know better than I.
Mission drives tactics. I can tell based on what he is saying he doesn't understand LE tactical operations very well and when officers would move "fast" as opposed to using a covert clear and how that would be accomplished. There is so much more to this topic. It is awesome he had the opportunity to work with the same small group of guys for most likely several years and hone their CQB tactics. That is simply not the world LE lives in.
@@sofit Exactly, I think that is kind of the crux of the conversation. When should and when would an LE Tactical team do either. Although similar it is a much different animal in how LE would approach solving their problems as opposed to CAG in the majority of cases, if that makes sense.
I think it's hilarious that Pranka gets so much hate just for pointing out that people suck. He has a cult following of haters on Reddit because none of them believe one guy can be right over all law enforcement and even some of his peers. The guy is spitting knowledge from real world experience and if you watch how he performs on video it clearly works. He absolutely shits on the opposition force in his popular sim video using the tactics they all scream don't work. It's just a clear example that there are levels to everything and just because you did something for 25+ years doesn't mean you ever did it right. You'd think when your job is risking your life, you'd shut the hell up and listen to someone with his resume. People just like to add a level of magic and mysticism to things that only require fundamental skills because it makes others look at them as unachievable perfection.
@@bdubs1543 almost anything special operations related. It's amazing how skilled redditers are! Never knew so many ex tier 1 guys also had reddit accounts. 😂😂😂😂
There is a time to move slow and a time to move fast. To be an effective team, you can only move as fast as your slowest. Moving fast takes much more skill, experience, and teammate coordination. You simply will not get to that level in most law enforcement capacities. Training needs to become your life. You typically only see that within SOCOM and FBI HRT type roles.
Is that really what's going on? Are swat teams today being taught by trainers who literally taught by youtubers? Or is pranka wildly misinformed -- "i dont care" "youtube is terrible" because last time I heard those phrases he was talking out of his ass. So how am I to know different here
You have to be a full time swat team to get the kind of skill he’s talking about. A lot of teams around the country cannot justify being full time. So actual training way low.
@@cjm767 i don't agree, i mean, a lot of civilians got those skills by working on their own, being in a part time team or don't get the training needed by the department/unit cannot be an excuse. It's all on individual commitment.
@@cjm767 you have to be a full time team to even dream of receiving enough training to get the kind of skill he's talking about. Even among full time teams they're the exception not the rule.
@@sofit I think he's talking about uniform skill expectations. There's a lot of guys out there with no formal backgrounds who can burn down a stage testing all of the fundamental skills required for dynamic CQB but theres very few groups of people where everyone is like that and everyone trains together enough to be considered an actual team.
@@cjm767 so wrong lol. Think about it man... Do professional athletes stop training just because their coach isn't there to tell them what to do? It's your life, not airsoft, no amount of on the clock training should feel adequate and if it does you need to find a different job.
@@cjm767 I shoot as a hobby but every round i send down range means something. I'm never just plinking, it's all calculated with the end goal of improvement in mind. I probably have significantly less rounds down range than most conventional army veterans and yet, I haven't met one that can outshoot me based solely off their military training. Any cop or veteran that outshoots me also trains A LOT outside of their job. (This isn't me saying I'm better than all of them, it's me saying that training outside of their job is a necessity that most people never consider)
Retired LEO and former SWAT Officer in the Las Vegas , thank you for being brutally honest .
Im a failure as a police officer, so im gonna start a cqb company 😂
Lol CQB on fellow Americans...wow...
You are in America, you don't need cqb to use on Americans, negotiate and de-escalate the situation.
Man so glad pranka keeps talking about walls and not stopping bullets. I've mentioned this on and off and conversations for 20 years and way more than half the time the people are taken a back. Such a common sense thing but largely not considered in training WTH
Especially with how you can actually train with this in mind. I think it was Chris Palmer who said sometimes they set up their shoot houses with butcher paper walls so they can shoot through them with sims and it totally alters what people are able to get away with. There's really no reason why more facilities couldn't do this. I've seen photography studios use really wide ceiling mounted rolls for white paper backdrops, it would be really easy to just set up 4 of those and pull down more paper whenever you've shot up your current "wall".
Perfect idea…..paper walls.
I believe the Cleveland team Matt refers to is ours, Southeast Area Law Enforcement (SEALE) SWAT serving Cuyahoga County. We are in Cleveland over 50% of the time but we're not Cleveland PD SWAT. We're a p/t team with a busy op tempo of about 50-70 ops per year. I call on Matt for advice regularly (and now Dallas SWAT). We are definitely on an island for still being dynamic in this part of the country.
It’s good that people are finally seeing this.
It used to be that if someone was a cop they were seen as some expert authority, but in the past few years, shooting skill amongst civilians has gotten so good that they’re seeing how shitty a bunch of the LEO and even military fundamentals are.
Thanks for finding these and editing it for us
SWAT=Surround Wait and Tech. Oh and let's not forget, having a beard, tattoos, and Vans is a requirement.
Goobers Group SWAT bros. Don’t forget the flat bill hats 🧢.
Awesome practical information brother. Snails pace along with rabbit pace has its place in the combative realm. But you have to vet each tactic with vetting the pace of which you proceed in the event. Thank you for this video.
Hey man- love these videos but is there any chance you could add a date of the original recording to the video description? Nice to get some perspective/ context on how current the info is.
Although I’ve noticed MPXA sticks pretty close to center over time… anyway figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.
Done: Oct 22, 2024
“The tight t-shirt, Punisher skull, SWAT killer dudes.” 😭🤣
Matt needs a t-shirt that says that. Gotta love Matt bcuz he’s right.
Inferring from what’s been said in the past, I don’t think he’s talking about elite level hard skills either. It is a bit cringe that “gun professionals” are as bad as they are, but, as they say, it is what it is.
@@belladonnatook4117 just an example: ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkx4tR0KBH5ILnxrWZE86s_RoT7xcUfOS3f?feature=shared
@@belladonnatook4117 it's pretty eye opening that the average SOF guy shoots at about a B class level of proficiency
CQB only works if the other side doesn't fire back.
Exactly. Uvalde PD learned that quick. Bro really kept them there until the fast bois came
That wasnt a tactics issue. That was a cowardice issue
KOM674 , you’re higher than a Chinese kite if you truly believe that .
These no pedigree Swatbros someone get matt to interview the swatbros from Kinetic Concepts they hate dynamic cqb more than anyone
I'm pretty sure that has already happened. He might not have interviewed him but I know he has mentioned them and I'm pretty sure he said their technique is garbage. But I could be wrong- our boy Sofit here would know better than I.
Sit. Wait. And... Talk.
Mission drives tactics. I can tell based on what he is saying he doesn't understand LE tactical operations very well and when officers would move "fast" as opposed to using a covert clear and how that would be accomplished. There is so much more to this topic. It is awesome he had the opportunity to work with the same small group of guys for most likely several years and hone their CQB tactics. That is simply not the world LE lives in.
@@Wayne-u5b i think you are talking about building clearing, not cqb.
@@sofit Exactly, I think that is kind of the crux of the conversation. When should and when would an LE Tactical team do either. Although similar it is a much different animal in how LE would approach solving their problems as opposed to CAG in the majority of cases, if that makes sense.
I think it's hilarious that Pranka gets so much hate just for pointing out that people suck. He has a cult following of haters on Reddit because none of them believe one guy can be right over all law enforcement and even some of his peers. The guy is spitting knowledge from real world experience and if you watch how he performs on video it clearly works. He absolutely shits on the opposition force in his popular sim video using the tactics they all scream don't work. It's just a clear example that there are levels to everything and just because you did something for 25+ years doesn't mean you ever did it right. You'd think when your job is risking your life, you'd shut the hell up and listen to someone with his resume. People just like to add a level of magic and mysticism to things that only require fundamental skills because it makes others look at them as unachievable perfection.
Cqb Reddit ?
@@bdubs1543 almost anything special operations related. It's amazing how skilled redditers are! Never knew so many ex tier 1 guys also had reddit accounts. 😂😂😂😂
Until AI robots and drones take over the dangerous work.
likely
There is a time to move slow and a time to move fast. To be an effective team, you can only move as fast as your slowest. Moving fast takes much more skill, experience, and teammate coordination. You simply will not get to that level in most law enforcement capacities. Training needs to become your life. You typically only see that within SOCOM and FBI HRT type roles.
I am sorry I am a civilian. So technically, I can't listen to this. Because my mind can't understand what those words are coming out of your mouth.
Lol where is that take coming from?
@douglasmilburn3875 the brass facts and hop podcast. He said he doesn't train civilians. You needed to either be military or ex and / or are LEO.
@@iammorpheus7345 he trains only LE/military because it has no time to train civilians
@sofit I know some, and seen some. Most need all the help they can get.
Nobody is doing search warrants here in Chicago. Let's Go Brandon.
How the fuck 😂
Is that really what's going on? Are swat teams today being taught by trainers who literally taught by youtubers? Or is pranka wildly misinformed --
"i dont care" "youtube is terrible" because last time I heard those phrases he was talking out of his ass. So how am I to know different here
You have to be a full time swat team to get the kind of skill he’s talking about. A lot of teams around the country cannot justify being full time. So actual training way low.
@@cjm767 i don't agree, i mean, a lot of civilians got those skills by working on their own, being in a part time team or don't get the training needed by the department/unit cannot be an excuse.
It's all on individual commitment.
@@cjm767 you have to be a full time team to even dream of receiving enough training to get the kind of skill he's talking about. Even among full time teams they're the exception not the rule.
@@sofit I think he's talking about uniform skill expectations. There's a lot of guys out there with no formal backgrounds who can burn down a stage testing all of the fundamental skills required for dynamic CQB but theres very few groups of people where everyone is like that and everyone trains together enough to be considered an actual team.
@@cjm767 so wrong lol. Think about it man... Do professional athletes stop training just because their coach isn't there to tell them what to do? It's your life, not airsoft, no amount of on the clock training should feel adequate and if it does you need to find a different job.
@@cjm767 I shoot as a hobby but every round i send down range means something. I'm never just plinking, it's all calculated with the end goal of improvement in mind. I probably have significantly less rounds down range than most conventional army veterans and yet, I haven't met one that can outshoot me based solely off their military training. Any cop or veteran that outshoots me also trains A LOT outside of their job. (This isn't me saying I'm better than all of them, it's me saying that training outside of their job is a necessity that most people never consider)