I'm interested in how it will end and yeah you will have some trouble shoot outs to make this work Brent. but i'm confident that you will nail it. can't wait for the next video.
Thanks '55, I agree. Have to expect more variables with used and abused parts; a portion of this is the expectations game. I appreciate the vote of confidence, I'll remember that when I have issues along the way!
Welcome back!!!! Glad to see another Haptic Garage video again. You hit a few talking points in this video but can you maybe go over all of the various things things to check for when trying to determine if a case is good to go? Thanks! #vdubrun23
Thanks FeveredMind, I'd enjoy making a video like that. To be honest, I don't think my list of things to check is fully formed. Old cases have a lot more to check than new, and from there it depends on what a person thinks is worth checking and how they'd like to measure it. I like to check everything I know to check and sometimes use multiple methods just to check myself. I'm learning more during this build so I'll share what I see as it happens, then maybe a follow up later in the process?
@@HapticGarageSounds great! I just picked up a couple engines this past weekend for a great price and plan on doing this exact same thing you are with them. 3 cases in total. Hoping to get one good motor out of the lot.
I'm looking forward to watching this project procede! It brings me back to my 1968 bug with sunroof that I bought used with a blown engine (not super-charged blown!). My buddy worked in a VW dealership and the service manager agreed to do the rebuild after hours. Unfortunately I was not very mechanically inclined at the time and I wish I had taken photos along the way. I had the car for about 3 years after that.
That's funny AJK, not the super charged kind of blown. I have one of those non-supercharged blown engines too! Great story about your '68, was a good connection to have at the dealership. It will be fun sharing this as it goes (good and bad). I look forward to hearing what you have to say as we go!
Thanks Vintage '76, that's a good trick. A part of me wants to know if I break through or not, so I've considered using that as a repair if needed, then simply redrill any JB that gets into the new galley. Will be exciting for sure.
I had a change over setup on my old blast cabinet. Fill with baking soda - makes carbs like new - I'm sure will do the same to these cases. Since I moved south as of last year. I do not have my shop completely setup again yet or I could have that answer for you instead of suggesting. Yes - it does wonders on carbs. I have not made a video myself in like 2 years or so. I will have to retrain myself on several things. Keep up the good work !!!!
Thanks @vwmountainman9701 I'm sure those carbs look like new after that treatment. Would be interesting to try walnut shells. My concern is not getting everything out during cleanup- the walnut shells would eventually dissolve. Good luck on getting the new shop set up and we hope to see new videos when you're ready.
Thank you for this amazing series. I've learned so much. I don't know if I will build an engine someday, but I sure know more about how it works and how to solve problems.
G'day, This is going to be an interesting series. I've been thinking about doing the exact same thing. I reckon I've got enough parts around my home shop to build up an engine or two. So thanks for sharing man. I'm looking forward to your next video. ✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia. 🥶
With your drill press you could do case savers. I almost used JB weld for case sealant lol. I figured it would greatly increase the strength of the case halves together and get two top end builds out of it. But I used is a Chinese camshaft so I played it safe and went with aircraft permatex. But a build like your doin it would help I believe if its a one off one time only build. Just heat the case and the jb weld so it flows out. I think also no leakes but everything else has got to hold our it's hell to tear down. For a one time only salvage build. Lol I chickened out.
Fun idea Jacqueline, there's a little bit of JB weld on one of my cases that somebody used to patch damage from a thrown rod. That's really wanting to use an old case! I'm a big fan of 3H, will probably use that, do what I can to prevent leaks, and let it ride from there. Fun stuff, thanks for sharing!
On ur oil plate cup. I would put it on as a trap - any contamination in the oil should fall in it at some point. Therefore keeping it from being pumped back into the engine causing damage. That would be my theory anyway.
Hey @vwmountainman9701 , today's detergent oils are supposed to keep all of that suspended so it is caught by the filter in a modern vehicle, yet we still see sludge in our VWs. I could see it having the effect you describe, especially if a non-detergent oil was used.
I found a filter available but they are a bit too expensive at $20. I agree it would be better than the screen but would rather just use an external filter in a normal full flow setup. I'll use a full flow oil pump cover and plumb the return line back into the main oil galley.
Yeah, it used to be a safe assumption but now seems to be a sure thing. I'd be really disappointed to pay today's prices for a new case and still have big QC problems- I recall that hole in one case you had posted... heartbreaking to see that. I hope one of the takeaways from this project series is the true value of a professional engine builder like yourself and others here.
Woo hoo, a haptic video!
Thanks Gary, happy about finally starting this series!
Hes back :) This will be a interesting build! Wait till you see my 25hp block its bad.
Oh wow, that will be cool to see such an old block. That's a whole new level of "gotta save it". Thanks for checking in!
Was and am happy to see a new video. Engine builds are my favorite. Keep up the great work.
Thanks a080867, glad to have you here. We're on it!
I'm interested in how it will end and yeah you will have some trouble shoot outs to make this work Brent.
but i'm confident that you will nail it. can't wait for the next video.
Thanks '55, I agree. Have to expect more variables with used and abused parts; a portion of this is the expectations game. I appreciate the vote of confidence, I'll remember that when I have issues along the way!
Love the idea of this series! Looking forward to following. All the best!
Thanks Peter, great to hear from you and I look forward to sharing the process!
Welcome back!!!! Glad to see another Haptic Garage video again. You hit a few talking points in this video but can you maybe go over all of the various things things to check for when trying to determine if a case is good to go? Thanks! #vdubrun23
Thanks FeveredMind, I'd enjoy making a video like that. To be honest, I don't think my list of things to check is fully formed. Old cases have a lot more to check than new, and from there it depends on what a person thinks is worth checking and how they'd like to measure it. I like to check everything I know to check and sometimes use multiple methods just to check myself. I'm learning more during this build so I'll share what I see as it happens, then maybe a follow up later in the process?
@@HapticGarageSounds great! I just picked up a couple engines this past weekend for a great price and plan on doing this exact same thing you are with them. 3 cases in total. Hoping to get one good motor out of the lot.
Sorry I missed this FeveredMind- I'm glad you found a couple engine cores, I'm sure they will be handy to have around!
I'm looking forward to watching this project procede! It brings me back to my 1968 bug with sunroof that I bought used with a blown engine (not super-charged blown!). My buddy worked in a VW dealership and the service manager agreed to do the rebuild after hours. Unfortunately I was not very mechanically inclined at the time and I wish I had taken photos along the way. I had the car for about 3 years after that.
That's funny AJK, not the super charged kind of blown. I have one of those non-supercharged blown engines too! Great story about your '68, was a good connection to have at the dealership. It will be fun sharing this as it goes (good and bad). I look forward to hearing what you have to say as we go!
Hi, there Brent, Nice to be seeing you with a new series of videos. look forwards to following you with this project🇺🇸👍🏻,🙏🏻☮🇳🇴🇳🇱 Greetings. Hubertus
Thanks Hubertus, always great to have you with us. This should be a fun one!
Looking forward to watching this series. I'm happy that I'm not the only one with cases of possibilties on the shelves.
I hear ya Oldbugsy, I think a lot of engines start like this and quietly keep their Drivers on the road
Glad this series is in the works!
Thanks Gary, been wanting to do this for a long time, glad to be in a situation now where I have to!
Good to see you back! A new series too!
Thanks Atomicmellon, always great to have you with us!
Imagine my excitement when I saw you had a new video and an engine build at that! Woohoo!
Thanks Gary, I'm exited about this project too. The engine has to be the most fascinating part of an old Vdub. Thanks for checking in!
You can fill the area with JB weld next to the #2 exhaust lifter, so that the drill bit won't drill through.
Thanks Vintage '76, that's a good trick. A part of me wants to know if I break through or not, so I've considered using that as a repair if needed, then simply redrill any JB that gets into the new galley. Will be exciting for sure.
aw yea Brent! I'm really looking forward to this series! Can't wait to follow along!
Thanks Annie, been wanting to do this for a while!
great video brother! Love the Hard times build!! Good stuff!
Thanks Jason, it's not a fire breathing monster but it may keep me puttering down the road! Great to hear from you as always.
So happy to see a new video from you man. Great start for the engine
Thanks kyridgejumper, glad to share this and it's nice to have a starting point!
I had a change over setup on my old blast cabinet. Fill with baking soda - makes carbs like new - I'm sure will do the same to these cases.
Since I moved south as of last year. I do not have my shop completely setup again yet or I could have that answer for you instead of suggesting. Yes - it does wonders on carbs.
I have not made a video myself in like 2 years or so. I will have to retrain myself on several things.
Keep up the good work !!!!
Thanks @vwmountainman9701 I'm sure those carbs look like new after that treatment. Would be interesting to try walnut shells. My concern is not getting everything out during cleanup- the walnut shells would eventually dissolve. Good luck on getting the new shop set up and we hope to see new videos when you're ready.
Thank you for this amazing series. I've learned so much. I don't know if I will build an engine someday, but I sure know more about how it works and how to solve problems.
G'day,
This is going to be an interesting series. I've been thinking about doing the exact same thing. I reckon I've got enough parts around my home shop to build up an engine or two.
So thanks for sharing man. I'm looking forward to your next video.
✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia. 🥶
Thanks Kevin, indeed I think a lot of engines come from necessity and what we have available. Thanks for jumping in!
@Haptic Garage
Thanks man. ✌️
Awesome video with some great information!
With your drill press you could do case savers. I almost used JB weld for case sealant lol. I figured it would greatly increase the strength of the case halves together and get two top end builds out of it. But I used is a Chinese camshaft so I played it safe and went with aircraft permatex. But a build like your doin it would help I believe if its a one off one time only build. Just heat the case and the jb weld so it flows out. I think also no leakes but everything else has got to hold our it's hell to tear down. For a one time only salvage build. Lol I chickened out.
Fun idea Jacqueline, there's a little bit of JB weld on one of my cases that somebody used to patch damage from a thrown rod. That's really wanting to use an old case! I'm a big fan of 3H, will probably use that, do what I can to prevent leaks, and let it ride from there. Fun stuff, thanks for sharing!
On ur oil plate cup.
I would put it on as a trap - any contamination in the oil should fall in it at some point. Therefore keeping it from being pumped back into the engine causing damage. That would be my theory anyway.
Hey @vwmountainman9701 , today's detergent oils are supposed to keep all of that suspended so it is caught by the filter in a modern vehicle, yet we still see sludge in our VWs. I could see it having the effect you describe, especially if a non-detergent oil was used.
Will have to see what you do / say about the inside of the case --- since it looks about as bad as the outside ------ Rodney
Yeah Rodney, lots of corrosion in there too on top of the usual concerns with bores & webs. We'll do what we can and calculate our risks!
That may be an oberg filter sump. The filter sits down inside.
Hi Troy, kinda neat isn't it? Looks a lot like ones sold by CB and Empi.
@@HapticGarage pretty cool, do you know where to get the filter? It would be better than the screen
I found a filter available but they are a bit too expensive at $20. I agree it would be better than the screen but would rather just use an external filter in a normal full flow setup. I'll use a full flow oil pump cover and plumb the return line back into the main oil galley.
Hey hey hey!!
Heya!
Oh yea I'm on board
Thanks, this should be fun!
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Indeed!
All used case need machine work . Even new junk cases they make now need lots of work. The new stuff is not plug and play out the box.....either
Yeah, it used to be a safe assumption but now seems to be a sure thing. I'd be really disappointed to pay today's prices for a new case and still have big QC problems- I recall that hole in one case you had posted... heartbreaking to see that. I hope one of the takeaways from this project series is the true value of a professional engine builder like yourself and others here.
Pick up tubes can be removed and replaced with a little bits of skill
Yeah, I haven't done it yet but seems like it's worth a try. Do you re-swage them when re-installing?
@@HapticGarage when I replace them it's not required. Just a little loctigh goes a long way.