Rock Island Armory RIA 5.0E: The Do-All 9mm
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2023
- Famed American designer and architect Charles Eames once said, "The details are not the details. They make the design." And when you see the Rock Island Armory 5.0E, you'll understand exactly what he meant. Watch as Roy Huntington offers a look at the features behind why the RIA 5.0E puts the "E" in "Enhanced."
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Some will complain because it doesnt have all the fancy colored barrels & grips but is plain black that it isnt worth the price. When you look at the features & watch the smoothness with lower recoil its well worth it. Just because I cant afford one doesnt mean its not worth it!! I would love to run one. Engineering!!! 👍💥
It runs so smoothly it never ceases to amaze me. Roy
That was an enhanced review! Thanks Roy.
Theres no way im gonna spend 2k on that, if i need a race gun i would get cz shadow 2 sao. Which you could get around 1200, or canik rival s
There’s the archon type b from 950-1200 similar design non tilting barrel as well
That is an innovative design of a 9mm.
No, it's not.
When Martin Tuason first introduced this gun, I was fascinated by the innovative, thinking out of the box design. I still am. When he promised they would keep the price under $1000, I was all in, waiting for the gun, out of stock at the time, to get back on the shelves. When it finally did, the price had quite literally doubled, not only breaking Mr. Tuasons' promise but putting it out of range for what I was willing to spend for a gun of this class. Why the price increase? Were there issues with the original design? We'll likely never know.
I might still be in though, if it were introduced in a more effective/powerful caliber. Why chamber a totally new design for a cartridge that was introduced in 1901, based on cartridges that go all the way back to the 1880's? Why not a 40 S&W? A 357 Sig? A 45 ACP? Maybe even a 10mm? I can already hear the 'critic-birds' chirping that the 9mm is the world's most popular handgun cartridge. It certainly is the most prolific, but that definitely doesn't make the best or the most effective, especially when compared to newer and more powerful (effective) rounds. (Look at the USPSA power factor listings.)
Overall, this is a great design and it should be allowed to prove itself with better chamberings.
I know Martin well Milton. The gun ended up being much more difficult to manufacture to the tolerances desired than first anticipated, hence the slow introduction. The second gen (5.0E shown) was specifically made to raise the bar on the design and continue to smooth out production challenges. I anticipate the next gen will be a more affordable model and, no doubt, showcasing more calibers as time passes. People don’t always understand the process of putting a new model into production and want multiple calibers, different options, etc. right away, but alas … those are usually ideas coming with the passage of time as the production details are worked out. We are spoiled when we see models with multiple calibers, options, finishes, etc. but those are usually designs having been in production for years, sometimes decades. Roy
Thanks for the response. I understand these issues more than you might think and I'm not looking for miracles, just offering some possibilities. There is also the always present possibility that a new design, regardless of how good, might fall flat on its face, often for reasons that boil down to 'we're just not ready for that,' etc. I meant no criticism of Martin. He seems like a straight up guy. That said; I've been involved in the crafts for many years and one of the worst things one can do is quote a price on any piece, gun or something else, and then turn around and ask for more. I learned that from bitter experience. I entertain no doubt Martin was totally sincere when he did that, but perhaps he should have waited a bit to make sure it was actually gonna work out. All things considered, I'm still waiting to see how it shakes out. Its a magnificent design, especially the very low bore line which is reminiscent of a high-grade target pistol.@@fmgpubs
I know they’re working on ways to simplify production but the bottom line is it’s a complicated, well engineered design that simply takes talent and skill to build. Not like a plastic pistol! I’ll keep everyone posted. Roy@@miltonhall7078
Very impressive , nice review, better with adjustable sights
Thank you for your input. Please do a follow up after more rounds.
Will do. I have a bit more than 800 rounds or so through my original one with no issues. Roy
Pricey. I dig it's from Cedar City Ut.
The Philippines has a real good thing going right now
It’s a heck of a gun for the money. Roy
Great review, sir! I like the innovative ideas that went into these pistols. I would like to find one to rent before committing to buy.
That might take a while for them to fill the pipeline since these aren’t cheap. But if you’re willing to spend a few bucks, you can’t go wrong, I assure you. And thanks for your kind words! Roy
i would have bought the $1000 gun. production never seems to have gotten off to a good start as you can't see it available and with a limited production of the original now they have to upgrade the design. maybe it wasn't up to snuff. for 2 k i would buy something else. $1200 i may consider it.
The initial production run was intentially a small one. As with any new product there are always constant in-line changes to engineering and production methods. I don’t doubt they’ll be other iterations down the line, just like any gun model. Roy
@@fmgpubs i agree except double the price? that price jump is hard to swallow.
Very cool gun. Wish I could afford one.
I could buy a Shadow 2 and a USP (almost) for the price of this. Although innovative, I could never see myself buying one.
Did your original slide get loose? Maybe 500 rounds and the frame rails became sloppy.
I want one of these.
I'm a NUT for a low bore axis!!!!
The reason I'm not a fan of the SIG 320/M17/M18.
I also shoot '80s style with my left trigger finger on the front of the trigger guard, I call it MAX WEDGE grip....(I'm a MOPAR fan too, so it fits for me) so I like the squared off trigger guard.
I would argue that the square barrel ADDS MASS, not reduces it BUT, maybe I'm wrong.
That's not necessarily a bad thing as it might enhance lock-up and allow for a lighter recoil spring since the barrel weight is part of the recoiling mass until the barrel is completely unlocked.
Thank you RIA for NOT porting it.
I may have to sell one of my P7s to get one! I THINK I'll wait for the 4.0E though.
I always loved a P7 so understand completely! The engineer said the square slide/square barrel had less mass so I figured he knew what he was talking about? Roy
A round tube with a round hole in it would be lighter than a square tube with a round hole in it BUT the guy that engineered it should know what he's talking about.
@@jeffhutchins7048i suspect they meant less reciprocating mass of the slide since there's a big square whole on the slide .
@Random-ld6wg I wouldn't think that would make much difference since most slides are square inside anyway BUT I've never seen one of these.
10mm auto and threaded barrels please.
for that same price i would get a dan wesson dwx. a gun with some innovations as well. only downside is that the dwx is not optics ready.
Indeed. It would depend on what you like. If you’ve ever fired an HKP7, this gun mirrors the low slide set-up so recoil is reduced and straight back, rather than up and back. The Dan Wessons are very nice guns too. Roy
I just sold my full size DWX, it really wasn't anything special. I'm considering purchasing a 5.0E
I've had an original one for almost two years now and it's a great fun. It's more of a competition/target/plinking/home defense gun to me. It could work as a concealed carry gun bit it is on the bigger side. Roy@@silverbackgorilla2112
This is a $1,999 pistol chasing a $1,200 CZ Shadow II that is a proven performer!
I’m not saying this ain’t a freaking cool gun but RIA isn’t known for championships, they’re know for budget 2011’s!
That’s why Martin Tuason has started the 5.0 project. He wants RIA to break out of the history of only building price-point guns. They have the technology and ability, so he wanted to apply it. While it looks a bit like the CZ, they are completely different designs and feel very different. Roy
Hoping This RIA 5.0 would have a PCC.
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$2,000 for a 9mm range pistol?
No thanks!
Grip angle is closer to a framing square, than anything I’d care to shoot.
It virtually the same as a Hi-Power. Roy
@@fmgpubsI love my hi-power, but drills take almost twice as long with it, compared to the same drill ran with a g19. Not sure comparing this to a hi power makes it more relevant. Thank you for the video though. Happy new year.
That’d odd. I’m faster with my Hi-Power than with a 1911 or Glock. It must be hand shape and the fact I’ve lived with the Hi-Power for more than 50 years! Thanks for your kind words. Roy@@dman3526
@@fmgpubs I would suspect that European grip angles match my natural grip posture better than typical American grip angles. Guess it’s great there are so many options out there these days. Granted I use a very aggressive modern grip style. Maybe that has something to do with it.
FYI, I did not take enough care with my original statement and apologize for the snarky way it reads.
Not to worry. I grew up shooting revolvers and carried them for the first ten years being a street cop. I also shot PPC for years. But also shot the 1911 and Hi-Power in competition in the late ‘70s through the early ‘90s, so I think for me it’s simply muscle memory. I also like the CZ 75 variant grips. Adios for now, Roy@@dman3526
When is the budget version coming out? I love the design, but can't spend that much cabbage on a gun.
Not sure if/when they’ll be a budget version. It’s a very complicated gun to make and takes a talented team to assemble and fit. But we’ll see. Roy
For 2 grand I'd say it's a "don't do it" pistol.
Up to you for sure, Jeff. But until you actually get one in your hands and shoot it I’d be open minded. If it’s not in the budget, I understand, but before you spend significant money on a custom gun, I’d take a look at this. Roy
Oh, there is no doubt about the quality, and advance engineering of RIAs 5'0. I want one, but realistically it is out of reach for the average shooter. I enjoyed your presentation. Keep 'em coming! @@fmgpubs
This will be the first gun I buy when the CA roster goes away.
Or you can move! Roy
Too late, my hair is already crispy
Nice, but way too much $$$$$$$$$$
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Can't do everything if it won't take a suppressor.
I’d say give it a bit of time for a suppressor version to come out … Roy
900 for an optic cut, slide cut, and slighly better trigger. ... Yikes. Not what i expected from ria
Squarrel
Okay, I laughed out loud! Roy
Lost me at $1998.
Yeah, some people don’t like the cost of a higher end gun like this. I always figure if an entry level custom 1911 starts at about $4K these days, a gun like this offers essentially the same kind of quality and features for about half the cost. But it’s not for everyone, indeed. Roy
Though I genuinely enjoy your channel and your dedication to our sport...... I must admit that I am not a fan of the 9mm, and definitely not a fan of striker fire autoloaders at all.
No disrespect, but I cannot get even remotely impressed with this style weapon.😕
No sweat! Everyone’s entitled to like what they want. I l ike this mostly because it’s very refined, not just a molded piece of polymer with drop in parts! Roy
@@fmgpubs Yes sir, I've tried to like 'em, but couldn't get used to the trigger, grip, and no safety. I've owned a few but soon traded or sold 'em. My weapons are made of steel and wood with hammers. Reckon at 73, I'm rather fond of single action and double action revolvers. You will find two 1911A1's in 45 Auto among my revolvers though.😏
Count me in too sir. But I need to keep an open mind due to what I do here! But if you watch my videos you’ll see … I tend to favor revolvers and steel and wood! Roy@@anangryranger
it's not striker fired. there's an internal hammer.
The only people that got the orginal 5.0 were youtubers and social media people. Now they are doubling the price and trying to sell it to the average people
It is a re-design in a way, but I agree. The price is terrible.
good job man, for the good gun brand model ria5.0e 9mm usa made!
It is, indeed. Thanks for your kind words too. Roy