REACTION TO THE MOOG LABYRINTH WITH SYNTH SAMURAI & SYNTH PUNK

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  • @SpaceCapsuleOne
    @SpaceCapsuleOne 20 днів тому +8

    For 600, you're almost halfway to a full-blown Behringer System 55, and you'll have 10x the fun.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому

      Big time

    • @snorrevonflake
      @snorrevonflake 18 днів тому

      Actually i have a 20 K Eurorack System and barely use it because its too complex and time consuming, don't even have the space for it, i wish the Labyrinth had been available before i started with that. I definitely would have 10 times the fun with it.

    • @SpaceCapsuleOne
      @SpaceCapsuleOne 15 днів тому +1

      @snorrevonflake with 20k in Modular gear, I can definitely understand why it would be a bit overwhelming thus off-putting. I have a 6k Eurorack system and am about topped out in my interest in it. I still have fun though.

  • @ByronHadley1
    @ByronHadley1 20 днів тому +9

    The Labrynth was just another Moog toy. Imagine that. I only made it three minutes into the first video I watched about it before I turned it off.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому +3

      Agree brutal

    • @tommyg5095
      @tommyg5095 20 днів тому +5

      SAME... Andrew, he might truly like this , but to me his praises were over the top, seemed fake, fabricated... I really like Emily, and surprised she too was on the bandwagon,, I really thought she might be different , more subjective, but she too seemed all in, as were the other dozen videos from the known group of reviewers... I saw 2 or three minutes of Emily, had to turn it off, about 5 minutes of Loopop, had to bail on that one too. About 30 seconds of Andrew, and I decided this was obscene. All of these phrases for a 600 Dollar whateveritis...A 600 DOLLAR BLEEP AND BLOOP MANGLER... I am truly sad for Moog.. At least we can respect the past greatness of Bob Moog and the company from Asheville, North Carolina.. I seriously doubt inMusic will continue with upholding the LEGACY of Bob Moog's company.

    • @ComsiCaterpillar
      @ComsiCaterpillar 20 днів тому +1

      Moog just makes stupid stuff at this point ... their synths are cheap .... the pots are printed on the PCB ... they are deposable .... when the pots go the synth is trash

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому +1

      @tommyg5095 i think all the synthfluencer are in the race to get that MUSE!!

    • @tommyg5095
      @tommyg5095 20 днів тому +3

      @synthsamuraiproductions ahhh yes. I did not think about the next step. I believe you are correct. I suppose some people have no qualms about doing whatever to get free stuff. Would I want a free Moos, yeah? I would take it, but if it meant I had to schill for a company's overpriced mediocre product, then no, I couldn't give such a review just in the hopes of getting something for nothing.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 20 днів тому +5

    The bar is so low for tone/sounds in modular land, that Moog thinks these units will fly … and maybe they will, but based more on looks and hype than sound, to be honest …

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    Oh NO! Synth Samurai has gone Doctor Mix with those beads!😂

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +1

    33:45 Marc Doty needs to get that old vintage Minimoog on his channel again and bring Heather back, if that's possible.
    "She played the Minimoog ... horribly."
    😂🤣

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    5:47 Synthpunk freeze face!😂

  • @acidbat4441
    @acidbat4441 20 днів тому +3

    were gona have to agree to disagree on the way that thing sounds, im in love with it and cant wait to get my hands on it, but i make weird techno, experimental stuff

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    35:31 Now I remember John playing his Poly 61 on a video. It sounded so analog. Part of it was those strange quirks during playing. There were little beief random portamentos in there and these kind of quirks that don't seem to come with digital or even modern analog synths. There was a certain charm to his Poly 61 that caught me unawares.

  • @SpaceCapsuleOne
    @SpaceCapsuleOne 20 днів тому +3

    I'm Andrew Huang.... I love Lamp!

  • @lootacow
    @lootacow 20 днів тому +2

    In my personal opinion, i think you are comparing the Labyrinth to so many things that are not even meant to be compared to. Its not meant to be compared to a Pro3, Rev2, King Korg or any other keyboard synth. Its in a totally different league.

  • @acidbat4441
    @acidbat4441 20 днів тому +3

    mylarmelodies vid was the best i thought

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    40:50 Hydrasynth Deluxe is a great choice. Especially at that price! Phew.

  • @andybond5002
    @andybond5002 20 днів тому +2

    Synthpunk looks like the brother of Jack Black. and he wears Jablinski T-shirt, no wonder.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    6:20 Whatever he changed, better picture, less pixellated.

  • @crhkrebs
    @crhkrebs 20 днів тому +4

    So Eric Pershing has a rightful reputation for being a great programmer. I have 3 vintage Roland synths that Eric programmed, the JD-800, The D-550, and (I believe) the JD-990. But I’m sorry, Synth Punk is totally delusional to think that every VST company puts out a garbage product, except for Spectrasonics. I fact, these companies’ VSTs are so shitty that Hans Zimmer’s primary synth for his Oscar winning soundtrack to Dune was U-he’s Zebra, a wavetable VST. This runs 99 Euros right now, but what does Hans Zimmer know? Btw, the slightly stripped down version, called Zebralette is free. But while I have your attention, you don’t have to remap everything onto your synths to work a VST synth. Modern DAWs all have a “learn” feature. So I bought a cheap little Arturia controller just for this (all my hardware stuff is too old). If I want to control the filter cutoff of a VST synth, I simply click on the cutoff, press “learn” and touch any encoder on the controller and that is all. In your case touch any knob on your synth and that knob will control the VST.Takes less than 3 seconds. I have 12 encoders on my little Arturia controller and each can “learn” a separate function. But it’s not just that. Every part of my studio can be controlled in this way. So, for example, I can control EQ sweeps by twirling an encoder. Another encoder can control how much delay is applied to an external hardware synth. There are many, many varying applications to this.

    • @eTERNIAN69
      @eTERNIAN69 20 днів тому +1

      Zebra is awesome, so is Rob Papen's predator I think it was called. I just enjoy the blink of the less and glow of the lights, being in a spaceship surrounded by sound waves, no pc getting in my way. Vsts feel like work to me. Some sound fantastic if all your after is product.

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs 20 днів тому +2

      @@eTERNIAN69 and that’s a reasonable response. There are many ways to make music and each person’s preferences are unique. I happen to have 9 hardware synths, 8 of them vintage. But the blanket claim that ALL VSTs are horrible, except those made by Spectrasonics, is demonstrably wrong.

    • @eTERNIAN69
      @eTERNIAN69 19 днів тому +2

      @@crhkrebs Yeah my friend used these in his music all the time and his art made one hell of an astral projection pad.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 20 днів тому +2

    The Seofon looks like a massive seafaring bird ate a bag of synth knobs, then took an enormous dump from a great height … but maybe it sounds good?!?! 😉

  • @eTERNIAN69
    @eTERNIAN69 20 днів тому +3

    Poke'Moog 😂

  • @nagchumpalot
    @nagchumpalot 20 днів тому +1

    If I Had 10 Million I would get a Schmidt synth, a Knifonium! A GRP A4 and a Baloran River.
    Oh and the GOLD Minimoog Voyager… 😂🎉

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    12:48 John gave Moog, I mean Sweetwater, 5,000 bucks a couple of times! That Minimoog sounds as fat as Fk.!😎👍
    It's lasted a lot longer in his possession than his Moog One.

  • @wavesequencer
    @wavesequencer 20 днів тому +2

    If you want to do generative sequences in hardware around that price the Wavestate (or the desktop version) is very powerful.

  • @smartti1970
    @smartti1970 20 днів тому +3

    The Dco in Junos and Korg poly61 are analog, only the tuning and the waveform is digitaly controlled but the source of the sound is analog... (The 20'000.- Schmidt Synthesizer has Dco's) I used to think badly about dco vs vco's but they sound analog because they are analog, only their are stable in tuning so they don't drift like vco's

    • @cnfuzz
      @cnfuzz 20 днів тому

      Technically they use digital dividers , sonically there is no difference between a Dco and a Dds ( where the signal is pure digital like a sample) there is however a world difference between a vco and dco sound , night and day , dco' synths always have choruses to hide the sterile nature , usually als the modulation sources are digital as well in dco' synths

    • @smartti1970
      @smartti1970 20 днів тому

      @@cnfuzz Dco provides true analogue waveforms and digital stability and tuning, without aliasing that come with digital oscillators. Waveforms generated are genuine analogue waveforms, with no digital stepping. Juno 6&60 have an analog clock circuit . Ps: i'm not going to argue if you hear any differences, it's your ears, but Dco, Nco, samples are different.

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs 20 днів тому +1

      @@smartti1970 True and thanks for shutting down this nonsense. The “sterility” cnfuzz hears is because the DCOs are so accurate that they are perfectly in tune. The charm of old VCOs, including those in my new(ish) MatrixBrute, is that they are temperature sensitive and the tunings drift a bit. This gives a fuller sound. It’s like the string section of an orchestra. Each player is playing concert pitch A but the slight differences in pitch between them make for a very full sound. My Matrix 6 has no chorus or any effects at all. The patches sound very rich by slightly retuning that DCOs a few cents. And one cannot pretend that chorus units never existed on old synths with VCOs. Why would that be? 😃

    • @smartti1970
      @smartti1970 20 днів тому +2

      @@crhkrebs same feeling for me... :-)

  • @janpieternieman5295
    @janpieternieman5295 17 днів тому +1

    WOW synthpunk is right man, the Sledge is a unique beast.
    Thats the same synth im looking at.

  • @Observe-n-Learn
    @Observe-n-Learn 17 днів тому +1

    I've listened to most demos of this "piece of kit". Sounds like a Commodore 64 SID chip for $600 bucks. WTF. $600 goes a long way toward some nicer Eurorack module configs. Now, I do think that the Moog Matriarch, for the money, would be hard to replicate. Prices have been delusional going into an economic "shadow recession". $5K for a OBX8, $3.5K for a Trigon. I'm pretty happy with my used $1K UB-XA. SynthSam is right, REV2's are good for the moola along with Hydrasynth Deluxe and Summit. I really like my used $1K Take 5 also, and the TEO-5 will hit the streets soon. Might score a used one sometime. In the end, if this box keeps tweakers off the street, then have at it. Let's F'in face it. I see a lot of "influencers" pimp for crap just to get free gear or whatever. Hope their street cred is worth it. I missed you John, lost track after your account was hijacked. Your mini sounds great, I just would rather buy seven other synths with the money and a bagel from that shop near you, that looked yummy (from your old vid). Synth Samurai, keep the faith brother and thanks for the vids.

  • @rustikinc63
    @rustikinc63 20 днів тому +1

    The UA-cam Moog saturation was amateurish. Boutique brands don’t need UA-cam clown shows like Moog just did.

  • @HarmonicSonics.
    @HarmonicSonics. 20 днів тому +2

    Missed the live due to work. Now I can watch ok let's go

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому +2

      Sweet i did a big live on the moog labyrinth this a.m as well. Had some sweet jams mid way and at end

  • @SynthAddict
    @SynthAddict 20 днів тому +1

    the Mavis is another similar one although the format is slightly different to the "Mother" series - more of a desktop unit like the Behringer Mother clones

  • @cnfuzz
    @cnfuzz 20 днів тому +2

    Labby is a 600 dollar Volca modular

  • @thomasyon4332
    @thomasyon4332 20 днів тому +1

    Dear Samurai, Punk, and Echo, I'd like you to check an amazing synth album called "Euringer". Cheers.

  • @smartti1970
    @smartti1970 20 днів тому +2

    thanks for a great show guys..... SynthSamurai & Synthpunk.... show goes on ... as good as Sonic state 😋😝 ... and sorry but i prefer Studio Electronics over Pro3 🤗 Ps: and yes synthpunk's video editing is what makes the channel so much more attractive than the synthmafia ...

  • @Spaceman8.1x
    @Spaceman8.1x 19 днів тому +1

    Thanks for putting out some truth bombs about the new Labyrinth. I had to stop watching others videos on it because I found it so unappealing. Good job brothers!

  • @snorrevonflake
    @snorrevonflake 18 днів тому +1

    If Labyrinth had been available four years ago i would not have spent 20 K on Eurorack to achieve the same. Great compact device doing all the random bleeps and bloops the eurorack crowd wants. And actually i see myself using it more than my way too huge eurorack system that got too complex and time consuming.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  18 днів тому

      @@snorrevonflake if i were you sell that 20k eurorack and just but the moog sound studio dfam mother 32 subhamonicon spectrvox labyrinth and a behringer system 55 and you will have a ton of money left and an insane modular beast

    • @snorrevonflake
      @snorrevonflake 18 днів тому

      @@synthsamuraiproductions Yea, bad time to sell Eurorack stuff, watching local ads and modulargrid - nothing selling, two or three years ago those modules would have been sold next day.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +1

    23:00 I know people who think the Behringer Neutron is great fun and a no brainer at the price.

  • @user-tw7jo6tx6l
    @user-tw7jo6tx6l 18 днів тому +1

    Mine arrived today. Is it a center piece, hell no. Is it a great addition to my grandmother space station, yes. It’s really good at making weird percolating fart bubbles. I see myself sampling variations of the sequences and then sequencing those samples via my MPC/DAW. Then using the midi /cv clock on the MPC/DAW back into the labyrinth and the other Moog modules in my spaceship. This is not a center piece, but it’s a welcomed addition. Yeah it’s over priced, so is $5,000 for a 3vCO mono synth that has very limited modulation and long list of other features that should be included.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  18 днів тому

      @@user-tw7jo6tx6l all great points brother

    • @snorrevonflake
      @snorrevonflake 18 днів тому

      "It’s really good at making weird percolating fart bubbles." - Isnt that all eurorack guys want - for me yes - its an affordable compact device doing the same like my big eurorack system does.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 18 днів тому +2

    15:30 Is that a fecking drum machine, or what?

  • @thomas.moerman
    @thomas.moerman 20 днів тому +1

    They're all shills. Finally someone says it. You know, I also used to think SynthPunk was a tad obnoxious, but maybe I didn't get his kind of humor. I like these fireside chats without a product being pushed.

  • @hereticvice3397
    @hereticvice3397 18 днів тому +1

    It’s a premium korg volca modular

  • @kvmoore1
    @kvmoore1 20 днів тому +1

    I've seen a video way back in 2004 where Richard Devine set fire to an OpenLabs Neko on stage after a demo.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому +2

      Wow 😮 😂

    • @kvmoore1
      @kvmoore1 19 днів тому +1

      @synthsamuraiproductions Yeah. The funny thing was, the music was STILL PLAYING!!! after he set it on fire, for a short while. It did eventually stop. Hehehe.

  • @electrowayne2918
    @electrowayne2918 19 днів тому +1

    Tried a prologue and my poly 61m sounded more “analog “ then then a prologue. Was disappointed .. I wanted to like it .

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  19 днів тому

      @@electrowayne2918 damn everyone saying prologue sounds digital

    • @janpieternieman5295
      @janpieternieman5295 16 днів тому +2

      @@synthsamuraiproductionsI own one, it sounds cold analog. It does the most lush basslines its like a katana not a Swiss army knife. Hate it or love it.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  16 днів тому

      @janpieternieman5295 oh baby

  • @nagchumpalot
    @nagchumpalot 20 днів тому +1

    PRO 3 Baby! Thing is you need the SE Edition the build Quality and flip function is totally worth the extra cost it’s a keeper for life…
    Dave’s Greatest Mono.
    Now we’re the heck is the Moog Moos!😂

  • @jjrusy7438
    @jjrusy7438 20 днів тому +1

    andrew is an early tuber who was a busy guy, so he got a head start. he has more energy than talent and basically cringes me out. bo beats also cringesme out and both are borderline grifters. andrew did a couple videos with guest producers and made the mistake of inviting rachel k who has talent, and she blew them away.
    i posted my commnt in loopop's video first thing this am, the labyrinth is redundant with one trick, the generative sequencers. i got a west pest for the wave folder for

  • @janpieternieman5295
    @janpieternieman5295 17 днів тому +1

    Prologue Mark II?

  • @robert-wr6md
    @robert-wr6md 20 днів тому +3

    So Cherry Audio is horrible? What particular product is horrible, they are a pretty diverse bunch of VST synths.
    Cherry Audio is the best VST synth bulider around for half the price of a used brittle and metallic sounding Pro3 you could own every major release of Cherry Audio , 20 far from horrible inovative (Sines, Harmonia, Dreamsynth) and classic software reproductions.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  20 днів тому

      Cherry audio 🍒 is awesome

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs 20 днів тому +1

      True. Synth Punk is conflating his subjective opinion with objective reality. It’s no different than saying, “All Behringer product is horrible”. Also are you going to spend $15,000+ on a MemoryMoog, or the Cherry Audio emulation for $50? I’m not a pro doing soundtracks, so I’m stuck with the latter.

    • @robert-wr6md
      @robert-wr6md 20 днів тому

      ​@@crhkrebs I used a MemoryMoog Live for five years and trust me that bastard never stayed in tune for more than 2 minutes. The Cherry Audio emulation is a beautiful thing, because its musically valid.

  • @snorrevonflake
    @snorrevonflake 18 днів тому +1

    What would i do with a "pro 3", i am not into keyboard instruments, i want to do weird bleeps and bloops following the heritage of guys like Morton Subotnick. Or electro stuff like done in the 90s. You guys are comparing Pianos to Motorcycles, completely different hobby. All the negative comments come from people who are absolutely not interested in what this is, like i would watch a sports channel and comment how much i dislike sports.

    • @synthsamuraiproductions
      @synthsamuraiproductions  18 днів тому

      @@snorrevonflake we are just talking brother nothing less nothing more just 2 dudes talking like
      We would in a facetime call. Its actually just a facetime
      Call broadcasted basically. Dont read to much into it just opinions and random ramblings.

  • @LaurenceCousins-ov9tn
    @LaurenceCousins-ov9tn 20 днів тому +1

    The MS-20 is an iconic synth. Check ✔️ out Gino Vanelli's Gist Of The Gemini

  • @LaurenceCousins-ov9tn
    @LaurenceCousins-ov9tn 20 днів тому +1

    You can get a Microkorg Crystal

  • @lucasj7577
    @lucasj7577 20 днів тому +1

    I wasnt impressed by the synth. I have a few of the moog modular and its fun with MIDI and sequencing. Its primary purpose for me is rhythmically sequencing melodies, noises, and chords against each other for cool grooves. With that being said I dont recommend modular to people at all for the clear reasons you all railed against this one synth.

  • @tommyg5095
    @tommyg5095 20 днів тому +3

    Not a fan of the Labrysynth. So many schills praising this mediocre product... Mangling bleeps and bloops. 600 BUCKS FOR CRAPOLA... I do have that 3 piece set of MOTHER 32, DFAM, AND SUBHARMONICON., but if they were to disappear, I would not miss them.. It was my early foray into modular eurorack gear, and so glad I did not go very deep into that rabbit hole..