lol my guy 😂😂 great as always buttttt I’ll remember this when you start gassing up sanji. Agenda is a real thing that’s forsure no one is immune to it. Humans have biases it’s a part of the package. Great video tho.
Agendas are the funniest thing about one piece. If they werent there one piece would be as boring as every other community. The only way other anime communities have fun is other verse versus battles but one piece agenda just makes reading onenpiece funny. Like u should of seen the sanji fans including me when sanji bonney and franky used their strongest move on luffy in my head i was just like we are cooked this chapter
Bor I seen one youtuber supporting the comment shank>Roger but arguing with those who said mihwak >shank (saying that mihwak fans are funny )how delusional can some one get😂😂😂😂
You ain’t been the same eve since your sanji and admiral agenda got out into the dirt. Guess it ain’t so fun because you have nothing else to fall back on 😂
@@DivineKnight05as crazy as that is and sounds I almost prefer that to people downplaying Greenbull into Smoker status of weak and irrelevant. He’s obviously not as strong as what we’ve seen from other Admirals but it’s kinda crazy how much they downplay him.
Agenda is a goofy and fun way to engage with a series but it does get sad when people take their agendas too seriously over the actual story, JJK fans do this too
I used to really love agenda stuff in the fandom but just had to ste back from it due to how annoying it got. And it seeps into every single conversation somehow.
I remember when the chapter dropped which showed Mihawk stating to Buggy he didn't want to go to war with the Yonkou. People flamed him for ducking them and using it to say Mihawk was scared and is confirmed inferior to the Yonkou confirmed lol. As if, just maybe, Mihawk didn't want to fight extreme-diff fights when there was nothing for him to gain. He's stated multiple times he's not interested in the One Piece. Even Roger didn't needlessy get into fights with Yonkou even though he was superior to them. (Stole BM's poneglyph). Same with WB who let Kaido run amuck in Wano because there would have been casualties both sides. Also Mihawk being the only combatant on the level of power to the Yonkou puts him clearly at a disadvantage against crews like Shanks that have many heavy hitters.
Mihawk stated that czz, if he were to go clashing with a yonko crew... It'd inevitably force his captain, Buggy d clown to help out his right hand man.... And buggy sama involving in a fight would result in much casualties....🙌🙌
Agenda Piece is fun until we cant let a chapter breath or a plot point develop fully. Then it's all sorts of leaps in logic till Oda clarifies things🤦🏿♂️
@@maliklofton9148 I feel like Oda knows wtf he’s doing when he makes things super vague 😂 he’s a genius cause it brings in a ridiculous amount of engagement for his series
Calling Mihawk a bum because of his Vista fight isn't powerscaling related. It's referring to Mihawk wasting time by entertaining an opponent he could beat in seconds. Mihawk is being bashed for not taking things seriously, which means he's far above Vista. Basically, they're saying Mihawk is a bad employee for the world government (which is clearly true). His warlord status functions more to keep Mihawk away from the Marines than the other way around.
It’s because Mihawk couldn’t even get past Vista without getting jumped. Mihawk couldn’t clash with Whitebeard, he doesn’t even have conquers haki. Yeah first Mihawk needs to get past Marco first
@@SuperiorI.Q shut up... You guys just don't get the story.... Buggy sama is too strong for the verse, so hes just playing down for the moment... Until the time comes... He needs to hide in the shadows.....
@@Jackfruitman-nc1ol exactly, Buggy Sama just been hiding is immense power from the normies, his act is exactly that it's all an act, if he really wanted to he could put both Mihawk and Crocodile in their places without as much as a lift of a finger.
Also everyone just assume Luffy is stronger than Zoro. While Zoro one cut Hody. Took combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom. While Luffy gets clapped by just one Baguette.
Sanji also believed that his mindless killer form was stronger (said he'd easily dispose of Queen if he allowed it to take over), so it's just another example of Sanji trusting Zoro to overcome an even stronger version of himself.
@@Shark-hn4mvthis is one of the main arguments I use when sanji fans say he and zoro r equal. Sanji trusted Zoro to be able to take out an emotionless cyborg version of himself. He KNEW Zoro could do it. AND he asked Zoro that before he even had conq coating/KOH. Meaning sanji knows that rooftop Zoro which is faaaaar weaker than current Zoro is still strong enough to take him out. There’s a reason why sanji never attempts to fight the right hand man of the enemy’s crew. He always leaves that up to zoro out of respect. It’s insane that sanji respects zoros combat abilities to this extent and yet sanjis fans will still swear up and down that they’re equal.
One thing the fans just don't get is that not every list is exhaustive. That example of Zoro's Vivre Card only listing his Armament and Observation Haki says nothing about him not having Conqueror's. Guess what? Garp's card also says that he only has Armament and Observation. This the same bs that happens in every arc where we're given only a part of the information. To this day, some people claim that the people Kaido imagined after Luffy hit him with the Red Roc was his "top 5". Fun fact, Kaido also knew about Joyboy, yet you don't see him in that panel.
Tbf with the the sanji one I didn’t originally interpret it that way until this video mention people did but imagine if luffy said that to zoro, luffy first needs to believe that zoro could take him out, and since he doesent he’d Probaly assign the entire crew to do such a task form himself. So it does have a little to do with powerscaling beacuse sanji believes zoro could take him out.
I'm in the One Piece discord for new chapter notifications, but recently decided to lurk in the chats a bit and see if it was really as bad as my friend told me...had to pull out the popcorn, the conversations get hilariously stupid, especially if it's a break week
Agenda goes too far when people genuinely believe their agenda transcends the narrative. There was not a single universe where Gojo was going to win, there is not a single universe where Oda makes Mihawk factually stated inferior to Shanks since that will just invalidate the Mihawk vs Zoro fight.
Zoro and Sanji are brother basically, they fight all the time, but end of the day they care about each other there is a reason why Oda has not called Zoro the first mate and choose to refer to both Sanji and Zoro as the wings of the pirate king. Because they are there to help prop Luffy and if one wing was to give out Luffy could not reach that level. Luffy way back in Arlong park said himself that without his crew he basically can't do a whole lot dude would have died long ago. Zoro sparing Sanji from the nothing happened moment was because Zoro knows that Sanji is self sacrificial. Their entire relationship is about respect in the form of found family where they are represented as brothers. As it is Oda also has a running gag in real life with the voice actor for Sanji where he doesn't want him to look cool because of that. I general power scaling in general is dumb if it gets beyond hypotheticals and turns into just a shouting match as the narrative will always beat out power scaling as it's a story
Agendas are fine if you aren't disingenuous when it comes to the narrative of the story. Which is why i believe Akainu is top 5 currently and Mihawk > Shanks. (This is the correct opinion)
yeah but i think its narratively implied that mihawk is stronger and originally oda never wanted shanks to lose his arm which nerfed him but the editors made changes to make shanks a more interesting character so I don't think oda would go out of his way and make shanks stronger when it doesn't make sense. shanks is still one of the strongest one piece characters ever
@@ErlangShenlo narratively its never implied that mihawk is stronger in general. They were rivals. If mihawk ever defeated shanks or shanks ever defeated mihawk, they wouldnt be rivals. How hard it is to see for you? Mihawk became the strongest because shanks lost his arm and mihawk lost his rival to be the world's strongest then he became the strongest. Take it as roger and wb, they were rivals. No one won over each other so they were rivals. Is it so hard to believe that mihawk = shanks ?
@@mistbray123do you understand how a rivalry works?? They don't have to be equal to be rivals. They were clearly around the same level but now mihawk is clearly stronger and shanks lost his arm. Naruto is slightly stronger than Sasuke yet they're still rivals and still around the same level 🤷
@@mistbray123you're just coping. Oda said mihawk sits at the top of swordman as the strongest. He holds the throne, not shares it. Stop pushing a shanks agenda lmao. They were rivals 12 years ago. Now who's classified as the STRONGEST? Mihawk, not shanks.
@@mistbray123 I see mihawk and shanks as absolute equals, don't you think that it would be disrespectful to mihawk that his old rival is equal to him with just only 1 hand? how can they be equal when mihawk is not stronger than him at his best while shanks isn't at his peak? yes there were equals and could've been still equals if shanks didn't purposefully gave up on his arm, the point of that was to inspire luffy and make mihawk the world's strongest swordsman to be zoro's final obstacle in order to achieve his dream. it all make sense if you connect all the pieces
This is so true man people started the admiral agenda just by upscaling admirals a bit and then they kept overrating and overrating them and more and more people started supporting this agenda until the point that now the biggest part of community just blindly glaze admirals and they're like akainu > kuzan > kizaru > gb > fuji > one piece verse lmao
divine knight most of the community favor yonkos and shanks. there was literally a poll with 46k likes withyonkos having 98% of the votes. u r literally being delusional plus you missed the point of the video which tells a lot about you
This 😂 First it was “admirals are yonko level “ Then it was “ og admirals are yonko level, new admirals are stronger than first commander, but weaker than yonko” Now it’s “ admirals are weaker than yonko, but stronger than first commanders; but akainu is yonko level”. The copium is crazy lol.
@@ErlangShenlo most of the community isn’t delusional, which is why they realize that the yonko are stronger than the admirals. But that doesn’t change the fact that there’s still admiral wankers that think that they’re yonko level. There’s nothing wrong with his comment.
@@mightguy3118 nope I've had full on debates with people who genuinely think Zoro could've beat Luffy during wano "if he wasn't nerfed" because Luffys weak to slashes and Zoro scarred kaido so Zoro could kill Luffy
I think that zoro was equal/stronger than luffy only during the east blue saga and before alabasta (so whisky peak and little garden) but after alabasta it was clear that luffy was the strongest
Agenda piece is fun but sometimes it's really gets annoying, they put Agenda and power scalling above the story and MFS will force you to accept their opinion.
Great video as always.. maybe also because I'm a Sanji fan too, so... As they say, 100 people, 100 tastes, just everyone will try to defend their truth. Being objective about One Piece is almost impossible. I personally also have a different opinion about "power scalling"... If it is a Yonko - Admiral, or YC1 "level" especially in connection with Katakuri. But as for Zoro vs Sanji, I'm pretty clear there. Even though I'm a Sanji fan, I have to admit that Zoro is and always will be stronger than Sanji. It's just that the whole time Zoro has been in such a situation, he even has a dream that is the closest to Luffy's dream in terms of physical strength. And you can just see the parallel from Rogers/Rayleigh, Shanks/Beckman or Shanks/Mihawk Anyway, I'm glad that thanks to Egghead Sanji shined and more than once. Because he couldn't handle most opponents on Luffy's level (see Vergo, Doflamingo) at that time. But now in the manga I feel that he is closer to Zoro again despite the fact that he does not have Conqueror Haki, or any type of Haki at adv level. Which is quite respectable. Sanji, unlike Luffy and Zoro, still has a lot of potential for improvement.
my favorite zoro x sanji friendship moment is when zoro learned sanji turned himself into big mom on zou. zoro would NOT shut up, he was constantly bickering about how they didnt even need him anyway. you could tell internally zoro was freaking out because hes normally calm and quiet about crew leaving, like robin and usopp in water 7.
One Agenda that I absolutely hate is, "If Zoro was in WCI ,he would have killed Sanji", these Loyalist Powerscaling Zoro fans need to Read/watch onepiece..apparently not doing it.
Shanks agenda is generally the worst. The mental gymnastics they'll make to argue around mihawks title is insane. But never keep that same energy with whitebeards title🤣
In defense of the Zoro vivre card. It still references his conqueror’s haki. Under “conqueror’s haki” it says “zoro’s sword emitted a black flash. Does he have the qualities of a king (conqueror’s)…?!” So it not being listed next to his armament and observation haki while instead being mentioned in this more mysterious fashion doesn’t actually imply he doesn’t have it. It more likely implies he’s just new to this ability and isn’t actually aware that he has it, which is implied since when king brings it up during their fight, Zoro is confused about what he’s talking about. I suppose at worst it could also be coming from the blade somehow and not Zoro personally, but even then, he’s still using conqueror’s haki. I mean the vivre cards also say sanji dodging katakuri’s bullet was indeed advanced observation haki future sight, so the vivre cards have tried to provide further insight in the level of haki of certain characters in the past fairly.
The one that pisses me off the most is people still believing mihawk is vista level. Like I am OK if you think he is near to shanks but shanks is stronger cause mihawk never shown anything and they fought for the last time a long ago, but saying he is on the level of vista is just fucking stupid and I can't believe there are still people out there who think so.
Mannnn the only agenda I have is to stop the admiral downplaying I don’t even think they can 1v1 a yonko but damn people calling kizaru a fraud and blatantly ignoring the characters internal turmoil just drive me crazy
I think Vista vs Mihawk is a bad example. I think they were relatively comparable pre time skip and then like a lot of things in the story Oda has rethought, fleshed out and changed his mind on designs and concepts in the following years.
Honestly sanji just needs more time to cook with being a complete prev like before the time skip. Fish man arc really just made him suffer character wise to the fans that only watch the anime because of how long it is. Guy stepped up several times and then some but because he gets less focus out of the main three he suffers from his character being assassinated.
I like how sometimes bounty are used to further agendas, but get promptly ignored when it doesn't fit their headcanon. For example Zoro>Sanji because bigger bounty, but Zoro also>Kid&Law despite lower bounty.
The important thing about sanji v zoro is the true friendship the rivalry formed. besides, the powerscale debate ended when he blocked a yonko tandem attack and scarred kaido.
@@KrishSingh-wd2yn, Oda did allow Egghead Sanji to shine more. When I saw Zoro and Luffy struggling against seraphims while Sanji got to use his Wano powerup to flex, I knew Oda was gonna be writing nonsense this arc with plot-induced stupidity for all of the Strawhats. Still need a good explanation for why Luffy compared the seraphims to Kaido and then Luffy refused to use the abilities that allowed him to hurt Kaido. Makes 0 sense. 😂😂
@@Shark-hn4mvbrother ur one of the few op fans that actually have a brain!!! Plot induced stupidly was everywhere during egghead. Zoro having 2 separate encounters with the seraphim before realizing they’re part lunarian is hilariously bad writing.
Clearly, the admirals can solo joy boy with little to no effort, I mean we saw them defeat luffy at marine ford without a sweat, and luffy is the second coming of joy boy, so clearly one admiral > joyboy
"Sanjis Agenda"... thats crazy cause ZKK was a thing and every week you gotta hear Zoro is yonko level... Most one piece powerscalers only make videos about Zoro, swordsmen, or right hands
My agendas are rarely based on the love for the character. For example I think Shiryu might be way stronger than people give him credit, but I couldn't care less about him. I have certain predictions about what I think is likely to happen in the story, and those predictions have certain logical implications. 1. Zoro and Luffy will achieve their dreams around the same time. 2. Luffy will fight BB for the One Piece, and by defeating him he will become a Pirate King. 3. While Luffy is fighting Black Beard, Zoro will be fighting Shiryu. If these 3 commonly held predictions are correct, then there's a high chance that Zoro will be fighting Shiryu for the title of the WSS. This means that before all of this, BB pirates will have to fight and defeat Red Head-Cross Guild alliance, where BB will defeat Shanks, Shiryu will defeat Mihawk and Kuzan will defeat Ben.
Op powerscale is just an invention anyway. If tomorrow Oda decide that Kobby will beat Akainu he will do it... Just look at the admirals, Oda started glazing them, saying that they were WG strongest assets, now we have the god's knights and the gorosei... Zeff said that Mihawk obatined his title by beating all the notorious swordsmen, yet no relevant swordsmen has yet to be defeated by Mihawk... Big mom is portrayed as Kaido's equal, the two of them were trying to kill each other for at least an entire night with no result, then Big Mom lost to Kidd and Law shortly after... Ryokugyu did crush half dead King and Queen and proceed to be humiliated by Shanks a few moment after. Doflamingo was stated to be strong and just after that Cracker was presented as someone with better haki and physical abilities. All of this shit doesn't make sense in the first place and you will always have elements to put some strong character above another because Oda is being unclear by design. When he says that Mihawk has better swordskills than Shanks, some people are using this as a proof that he's stronger, some other are using this as a proof that Mihawk's title doesn't concern overall strenght otherwise Oda would've said that Mihawk is straight up stronger than Shanks... Just look at you for exemple, you litteraly admitted yourself that you had no concrete argument to put Mihawk's conqueror's haki above Shanks conqueror's haki, yet you did it because you're on the Mihawk agenda anyway. You think that Mihawk is stronger so he has a stronger conqueror's haki, that's an hypocritical and circular argument... especially when everything in the manga points to the opposite direction, Shanks being the embodiement of conqueror's haki in the manga (being the first to introduce it, the first to split the sky and the first to use a pecial use against an admiral) ! Everyone is on som sort of an agenda, people pretending to "read" or to be "objective" are using this term to justify their position without having to argue or recognize that someone else's vision could be right in his own way. I don't like Mihawk because I hate the fact that he never did anything or beat any significant characters in the manga, but I can see why people are putting him above Shanks and I recognize their vision, what I hate is people saying that Mihawk is FOR SURE AND OBJECTIVLY ABOVE SHANKS and that everyone who says the opposite is dumb or can't read while their argument is filled with ambiguity and uncertainty with a lot of possible other interpratations.
Yeah, people don't get the fact that Oda doesn't care about powerscaling and agenda, he will make a character stronger or weaker when the plot needs it.
One of the most absurd agenda-poisoned beliefs I saw from Zoro fans was them trying to spin the narrative that Sanji was a "cheerleader" for Zoro at the end of the Lucci fight during Egghead. Somehow, Sanji literally calling Zoro a liability is him cheering for him on the sidelines(???) If anything, he was more like a coach/teammate telling an athlete to get his head in the game. Not whatever the hell the Sanji haters/Zoro fans were trying to say.
That’s not the point the point was he only overpowered Lucci when Sanji made him mad. Obviously Zoro is stronger than Lucci but it was written in a way to imply he’d struggle more without the rival mentality
Just hit them with the virie card statement that said zoro and lucci were equal during their fight. And for extra fun bring up lucci being weakened from his fight with luffy
HOT TAKE: the gojo agenda ruined the fight between the sukuna cause everyone just screamed bad writing and “sukuna needed maho” without actually reading the context of anything
this is like saying Goku is slower then a 50cal because someone shot him with a pistol that one time, or if Ichigo is still only lightning speed because it was in one book that talked about his speed in one of the earliest fights in the series, or Saitama can beat anyone in fiction because the title is one punch man.
Saitama is a parody so he automatically is stronger than every opponent he faces, not EVERY anime character in existence, but once he faces them he becomes stronger that's it
@@WiIhelmScream not really goku has lost battles before and his adaptation is more gradual, on the other hand saitama like gets stronger than his opponet in the same moment he starts to fight him
If we had the same mindset as the agenda riders that makes pre timeskip luffy stronger old garp,which makes him stronger than donflamingo and kaido back in marineford.
Admiral agenda is dead or mostly dead, shanks and zoro tards are the worst out of the fandom. The OG3 admirals would all be yonko level with awakenings, but without it only akainu is after growing from fighting WB and kuzan. Yonkos would be beyond yonko level with awakening. By that i meam kaido and big mom and maybe BB.
Everything aside from the first part, you are right. But sanji put the jokes aside and went to Zoro because he knew that he was the only one that both would AND could kill him. You used an incredible amount of speculation and changing the story to fit your own narrative for that, because you are clearly biased.
TO BE FAIR... Zoro do be borrowing Oden's conqueror's haki. Nah but for real Agenda is fun when in small doses but when people start going extra with it, the shit gets annoying. Like saying Sanji knows Zoro is stronger than him is funny when we're talking about that scene but it is dumb when talking about something unrelated to that moment in Wano and people bring that moment up as serious evidence that Sanji is outright saying he's weaker than Zoro.
I guess I'm not a zoro fan cause there is no way the Zoro agenda is higher than Mihawk and Shanks agenda or Sanji agenda. I guess I gotta be more toxic.
I think Vista is being downplayed. We saw how Ace got the position of nr.2, it wasn't because he was the second strongest ignoring Whitebeard, it was because the position was vacant. Kuzan/Aokiji is nr.10 of Blackbeards crew, you seriously gonna tell me he isn't the strongest of his commanders? I think the same logic works perfectly fine here. Vista could be stronger than Jozu, not saying he is, just it's possible. And even if not, and even if Mihawk was actually trying against Vista, we have seen time and time again characters way lower than other characters clash for a very long time like Jozu/Aokiji and Marco/Kizaru, if they weren't caught off guard like in those very same fights.
Come on man the only agenda that matters is the Magellan agenda with how he no diffed the bb crew with a stronger bb than what scared an on guard 2 armed shanks that was a rival to Mihawk
It goes beyond delusional stans for a character. This stuff bleeds into theories. We all remember raid will fair and zoro kills kaido. People pushed those agendas soo much to the point they wanted to write the story themselves, then got mad when their agenda wasnt fulfilled.
Just wanted to make a rant video this isn’t scripted or nothing but like I’m seeing the craziest agendas now and days 😭😭
It's okay my pokkie wokkie
lol my guy 😂😂 great as always buttttt I’ll remember this when you start gassing up sanji. Agenda is a real thing that’s forsure no one is immune to it. Humans have biases it’s a part of the package. Great video tho.
Agendas are the funniest thing about one piece. If they werent there one piece would be as boring as every other community. The only way other anime communities have fun is other verse versus battles but one piece agenda just makes reading onenpiece funny. Like u should of seen the sanji fans including me when sanji bonney and franky used their strongest move on luffy in my head i was just like we are cooked this chapter
Bor I seen one youtuber supporting the comment shank>Roger but arguing with those who said mihwak >shank (saying that mihwak fans are funny )how delusional can some one get😂😂😂😂
You ain’t been the same eve since your sanji and admiral agenda got out into the dirt. Guess it ain’t so fun because you have nothing else to fall back on 😂
Agenda-Piece is honestly hilarious. It’s crazy cause most start out as jokes, and over time they genuinely start to believe it😂
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@@julianw2459 It's wild just how bad some of these takes are
Like Usopps lies they slowly become truth
Fr man diehard admiral fans now fr believe that greenbull > shanks mihawk or roger lol
@@DivineKnight05as crazy as that is and sounds I almost prefer that to people downplaying Greenbull into Smoker status of weak and irrelevant. He’s obviously not as strong as what we’ve seen from other Admirals but it’s kinda crazy how much they downplay him.
Don’t fuck with us One Piece fans, we can’t read!
⁉️⁉️❓WE CAN READ WE JUst DONT LIKE COMPREHENSION
@@SuperiorI.Q who we?
@@usersno-w ze french......
Yall finally joined db fans
"This is a metter of reading comprehension" - Eichiro Oda😂
Agenda is a goofy and fun way to engage with a series but it does get sad when people take their agendas too seriously over the actual story, JJK fans do this too
Agendas so strong they thought gojo had a chance narratively
@xigabrelless1980
Gojo robbed you know that too
I used to really love agenda stuff in the fandom but just had to ste back from it due to how annoying it got. And it seeps into every single conversation somehow.
@@KinKon-oi4dx oh I know and I'm a sukuna hater through and through I knew my boy would've gotten hoed
It was fun when it was just Zoro fanboys vs everyone else. But now it's convoluted.
The first five seconds:
“ THATS WHY HES THE GOAT. THE GOOAAAAT.”
Umbas Julian sir daor
@@SuperiorI.Q I’m bouta refresh my high Valyrian, gonna write my comments like that😂
I remember when the chapter dropped which showed Mihawk stating to Buggy he didn't want to go to war with the Yonkou. People flamed him for ducking them and using it to say Mihawk was scared and is confirmed inferior to the Yonkou confirmed lol.
As if, just maybe, Mihawk didn't want to fight extreme-diff fights when there was nothing for him to gain. He's stated multiple times he's not interested in the One Piece. Even Roger didn't needlessy get into fights with Yonkou even though he was superior to them. (Stole BM's poneglyph).
Same with WB who let Kaido run amuck in Wano because there would have been casualties both sides. Also Mihawk being the only combatant on the level of power to the Yonkou puts him clearly at a disadvantage against crews like Shanks that have many heavy hitters.
Nah, he's fraud fr fr. Also having dandruff and bad odor 😊
Roger is not superior to the Yonko, he's superior to some of the Yonko, by being slightly weaker than Whitebeard.
Mihawk stated that czz, if he were to go clashing with a yonko crew... It'd inevitably force his captain, Buggy d clown to help out his right hand man....
And buggy sama involving in a fight would result in much casualties....🙌🙌
@kakuzugoated873 Roger isn't slightly weaker than WB. Where are you getting this from?
@@faith4657 Whitebeard had the world's strongest man title before Roger died, and Whitebeard had less influence as a pirate.
Agenda Piece is fun until we cant let a chapter breath or a plot point develop fully. Then it's all sorts of leaps in logic till Oda clarifies things🤦🏿♂️
@@maliklofton9148 I feel like Oda knows wtf he’s doing when he makes things super vague 😂 he’s a genius cause it brings in a ridiculous amount of engagement for his series
@@julianw2459 He's been doing this for almost 30 years. He 100% is doing this on purpose 💀💀💀
Real talk like sht can’t marinate
@@julianw2459 I would too
@@julianw2459what's more amazing is that he never folds or succumbs to pressure
sanji is stronger because he's the one who chooses if luffy eats or not 🗿
See these are the agendas I love 😂
Calling Mihawk a bum because of his Vista fight isn't powerscaling related. It's referring to Mihawk wasting time by entertaining an opponent he could beat in seconds. Mihawk is being bashed for not taking things seriously, which means he's far above Vista.
Basically, they're saying Mihawk is a bad employee for the world government (which is clearly true). His warlord status functions more to keep Mihawk away from the Marines than the other way around.
Brother I wish it wasnt powerscaling related the term get him passed vista is used everyday to diminish his strength 😭😭
@@SuperiorI.QVista go handle roger🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
It’s because Mihawk couldn’t even get past Vista without getting jumped.
Mihawk couldn’t clash with Whitebeard, he doesn’t even have conquers haki. Yeah first Mihawk needs to get past Marco first
Vista>
😂😂😂 low iq@@randoricochet
Bros got an anti-agenda agenda. He's an agendist fr
Yall remember that episode of Billy and Mandy where those nerds in the secret snake club kept talking about their agendas?
Thats agenda piece twitter
MY AGENDA HAS BUGGY AS PIRATE KING
Yes and that’s amAzing but there ar w people who will say buggy is pirate king 100% and that if you believe other wise your stupid 😂
@@SuperiorI.Q fr, reminds me of “haki man” 🐀
@@SuperiorI.Q shut up... You guys just don't get the story.... Buggy sama is too strong for the verse, so hes just playing down for the moment... Until the time comes... He needs to hide in the shadows.....
@@Jackfruitman-nc1olong
@@Jackfruitman-nc1ol exactly, Buggy Sama just been hiding is immense power from the normies, his act is exactly that it's all an act, if he really wanted to he could put both Mihawk and Crocodile in their places without as much as a lift of a finger.
Agenda piece is so strong theres people who think Zoro is already the WSS😭
A*e* 😭😭😭
@@SuperiorI.Q 🤬🤬🤬
probably like 12 years olds
yes most one piece fans are 10-12 years ld
Also everyone just assume Luffy is stronger than Zoro. While Zoro one cut Hody. Took combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom. While Luffy gets clapped by just one Baguette.
@@Mr9TalesFox ok bro you are trolling. No Zoro ever says this
“Agenda transcends all”
Luffy wouldn’t put Sanji down, it’s why Sanji asked Zoro. Sanji likely is closer to Luffy but Luffy is not doing that.
Agreed. Look how much it hurt sanji having to hurt his captain.
Excuses
Sanji also believed that his mindless killer form was stronger (said he'd easily dispose of Queen if he allowed it to take over), so it's just another example of Sanji trusting Zoro to overcome an even stronger version of himself.
@@Shark-hn4mvthis is one of the main arguments I use when sanji fans say he and zoro r equal.
Sanji trusted Zoro to be able to take out an emotionless cyborg version of himself.
He KNEW Zoro could do it. AND he asked Zoro that before he even had conq coating/KOH. Meaning sanji knows that rooftop Zoro which is faaaaar weaker than current Zoro is still strong enough to take him out.
There’s a reason why sanji never attempts to fight the right hand man of the enemy’s crew. He always leaves that up to zoro out of respect.
It’s insane that sanji respects zoros combat abilities to this extent and yet sanjis fans will still swear up and down that they’re equal.
Man if I become an agenda scaler ima just have to do a flip off a cliff
Ussop is the only character that took a 4 ton bat to the head while being launched towards it.
One thing the fans just don't get is that not every list is exhaustive. That example of Zoro's Vivre Card only listing his Armament and Observation Haki says nothing about him not having Conqueror's. Guess what? Garp's card also says that he only has Armament and Observation.
This the same bs that happens in every arc where we're given only a part of the information. To this day, some people claim that the people Kaido imagined after Luffy hit him with the Red Roc was his "top 5". Fun fact, Kaido also knew about Joyboy, yet you don't see him in that panel.
I sometimes feel like Agenda discussion is like powerscalers but turn up the wacky factor by 10
Tbf with the the sanji one I didn’t originally interpret it that way until this video mention people did but imagine if luffy said that to zoro, luffy first needs to believe that zoro could take him out, and since he doesent he’d Probaly assign the entire crew to do such a task form himself. So it does have a little to do with powerscaling beacuse sanji believes zoro could take him out.
I don't think people believe their agandas but rather other people hear it and run with it😂
I'm in the One Piece discord for new chapter notifications, but recently decided to lurk in the chats a bit and see if it was really as bad as my friend told me...had to pull out the popcorn, the conversations get hilariously stupid, especially if it's a break week
can u gve me the link to it
Agenda goes too far when people genuinely believe their agenda transcends the narrative.
There was not a single universe where Gojo was going to win, there is not a single universe where Oda makes Mihawk factually stated inferior to Shanks since that will just invalidate the Mihawk vs Zoro fight.
"This is a matter of reading comprehension" - Eichiro Oda
The goat made another banger 🔥
You’re the goat bro
@@SuperiorI.Q aw thanks 😊
This was all started by one man Jay D legend, The strongest rat in history
bro should be on a analzying evil video
The Wista slander is unreal.
Zoro and Sanji are brother basically, they fight all the time, but end of the day they care about each other there is a reason why Oda has not called Zoro the first mate and choose to refer to both Sanji and Zoro as the wings of the pirate king. Because they are there to help prop Luffy and if one wing was to give out Luffy could not reach that level. Luffy way back in Arlong park said himself that without his crew he basically can't do a whole lot dude would have died long ago.
Zoro sparing Sanji from the nothing happened moment was because Zoro knows that Sanji is self sacrificial. Their entire relationship is about respect in the form of found family where they are represented as brothers. As it is Oda also has a running gag in real life with the voice actor for Sanji where he doesn't want him to look cool because of that. I general power scaling in general is dumb if it gets beyond hypotheticals and turns into just a shouting match as the narrative will always beat out power scaling as it's a story
I 100% agree but the vista memes are hilarious 😭
Facts. Even tho I'm a Mihawk fan the Vista and Mihawk slander is funny af😂😂
Agendas are fine if you aren't disingenuous when it comes to the narrative of the story. Which is why i believe Akainu is top 5 currently and Mihawk > Shanks. (This is the correct opinion)
Speak 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥 the truth
God bless this mans notification for saying the obvious of
mihawk > shanks
@@castlevina8425fax 🗣️🔥🔥
Speaking of Akainu, I need to see his awakening badly 😭😭😭
His notification is fine @@castlevina8425
im pretty sure oda himself follows the shanks agenda too
yeah but i think its narratively implied that mihawk is stronger and originally oda never wanted shanks to lose his arm which nerfed him but the editors made changes to make shanks a more interesting character so I don't think oda would go out of his way and make shanks stronger when it doesn't make sense. shanks is still one of the strongest one piece characters ever
@@ErlangShenlo narratively its never implied that mihawk is stronger in general. They were rivals. If mihawk ever defeated shanks or shanks ever defeated mihawk, they wouldnt be rivals. How hard it is to see for you? Mihawk became the strongest because shanks lost his arm and mihawk lost his rival to be the world's strongest then he became the strongest. Take it as roger and wb, they were rivals. No one won over each other so they were rivals. Is it so hard to believe that mihawk = shanks ?
@@mistbray123do you understand how a rivalry works?? They don't have to be equal to be rivals. They were clearly around the same level but now mihawk is clearly stronger and shanks lost his arm. Naruto is slightly stronger than Sasuke yet they're still rivals and still around the same level 🤷
@@mistbray123you're just coping. Oda said mihawk sits at the top of swordman as the strongest. He holds the throne, not shares it. Stop pushing a shanks agenda lmao. They were rivals 12 years ago. Now who's classified as the STRONGEST? Mihawk, not shanks.
@@mistbray123 I see mihawk and shanks as absolute equals, don't you think that it would be disrespectful to mihawk that his old rival is equal to him with just only 1 hand? how can they be equal when mihawk is not stronger than him at his best while shanks isn't at his peak? yes there were equals and could've been still equals if shanks didn't purposefully gave up on his arm, the point of that was to inspire luffy and make mihawk the world's strongest swordsman to be zoro's final obstacle in order to achieve his dream. it all make sense if you connect all the pieces
loved the vid (havent watched it yet )
Love you
Ive seen people arguing zoro is currently equal to sanji based on portrayal in little garden 😂😂
they cant be exactly equal since it has been clearly established that zoro will always be stronger even the gap is very very small
The gap between zoro and sanji will always be smaller than the gap between luffy and zoro imo
@@lemonlupinreuben5362just as big
@@ErlangShenloagree cz sanji is far stronger than loro
I think most agenda is harmless, it's just that some people (zoro and sanji fans) take it wayyy too seriously
This is so true man people started the admiral agenda just by upscaling admirals a bit and then they kept overrating and overrating them and more and more people started supporting this agenda until the point that now the biggest part of community just blindly glaze admirals and they're like akainu > kuzan > kizaru > gb > fuji > one piece verse lmao
divine knight most of the community favor yonkos and shanks. there was literally a poll with 46k likes withyonkos having 98% of the votes. u r literally being delusional plus you missed the point of the video which tells a lot about you
This 😂
First it was “admirals are yonko level “
Then it was “ og admirals are yonko level, new admirals are stronger than first commander, but weaker than yonko”
Now it’s “ admirals are weaker than yonko, but stronger than first commanders; but akainu is yonko level”.
The copium is crazy lol.
@@ErlangShenlo most of the community isn’t delusional, which is why they realize that the yonko are stronger than the admirals. But that doesn’t change the fact that there’s still admiral wankers that think that they’re yonko level. There’s nothing wrong with his comment.
@@Yumemaru. did you just say one piece fandom is not delusional?💀 this is the most biased and dumbest community ive ever seen
@@Yumemaru. Admirals are downplayed too hard and if you dont realize you are too delusional and lack reading comprehension
I feel like the thumbnail should be Zoro and Luffy because people genuinely think Zoro beats Luffy at every point in the story
They're trolling
@@mightguy3118no they are not zoro fans are the worst.
@@mightguy3118 nope I've had full on debates with people who genuinely think Zoro could've beat Luffy during wano "if he wasn't nerfed" because Luffys weak to slashes and Zoro scarred kaido so Zoro could kill Luffy
I think that zoro was equal/stronger than luffy only during the east blue saga and before alabasta (so whisky peak and little garden) but after alabasta it was clear that luffy was the strongest
Nah Sanji fans are innocent.
Yeah the most egregious are the Zoro Luffy and shanks agenda pushers!
@@DANCERcowarent most of the time shanks fans r luffy + sanji fans?
Sanji fans aren’t innocent, but they are far from the worst
@@DANCERcow luffy literally could be top 1 eos, there is no argument to that so you cant overrated him in terms of powerscaling
What agenda is this? The sanji fans are normal agenda?
Agenda piece is fun but sometimes it's really gets annoying, they put Agenda and power scalling above the story and MFS will force you to accept their opinion.
How tf do people see the vista vs mihawk fight and think “yeah this was a extreme diff fight 👍” 😭
They are cooked 😂 fucking hell
Like the Zoro agenda😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you included yourself kudos to you for showing your bias
Not sure about bias in my videos but I definitely fanboy 🤭
Agendas will never die!
My Dr Agenda & Boa agenda went unscathed.
Take a shot every time he says “Agenda” 😂
Great video as always.. maybe also because I'm a Sanji fan too, so...
As they say, 100 people, 100 tastes, just everyone will try to defend their truth. Being objective about One Piece is almost impossible.
I personally also have a different opinion about "power scalling"... If it is a Yonko - Admiral, or YC1 "level" especially in connection with Katakuri.
But as for Zoro vs Sanji, I'm pretty clear there. Even though I'm a Sanji fan, I have to admit that Zoro is and always will be stronger than Sanji. It's just that the whole time Zoro has been in such a situation, he even has a dream that is the closest to Luffy's dream in terms of physical strength. And you can just see the parallel from Rogers/Rayleigh, Shanks/Beckman or Shanks/Mihawk
Anyway, I'm glad that thanks to Egghead Sanji shined and more than once. Because he couldn't handle most opponents on Luffy's level (see Vergo, Doflamingo) at that time. But now in the manga I feel that he is closer to Zoro again despite the fact that he does not have Conqueror Haki, or any type of Haki at adv level. Which is quite respectable. Sanji, unlike Luffy and Zoro, still has a lot of potential for improvement.
And theres me. Having no preferences or alleigances to any character or group and just finds agenda piece pure entertainment
Technically correct… but the agenda says no.
Anyway KOH is the worst power up in One Piece
@@kingrippzard2027 I miss hearing this every few days 😔
Fr Koh just cop about one piece
And Koh can't understand admirals are equal to yonkos and think bm beats Luffy 💀
@@julianw2459 imma be back
@@usersno-w who is koh?
Perfect vid to recommend! Regardless when the fight happens, expect Oda to make fights unbiased
my favorite zoro x sanji friendship moment is when zoro learned sanji turned himself into big mom on zou.
zoro would NOT shut up, he was constantly bickering about how they didnt even need him anyway.
you could tell internally zoro was freaking out because hes normally calm and quiet about crew leaving, like robin and usopp in water 7.
The agenda I had was arguing that Luffy was only going to be around 2.75 billion after Wano when everyone was saying 5 billion.
Ive seen alot of Daemon fans who think he could take prime 2 handed Jamie lanister in 1v1, which is an insane level of delusion.
Jaime dog walks
@@SuperiorI.Q Facts!
Great video! My current agenda is Boa Hancock having Advanced Conqueror's Haki.
you forgot supernova agenda (law and kidd mostly) and yonko commander agenda
Admiral agenda is the craziest one.
At this point, I don’t understand how anyone can think that the admirals are stronger than the yonko.
One Agenda that I absolutely hate is, "If Zoro was in WCI ,he would have killed Sanji", these Loyalist Powerscaling Zoro fans need to Read/watch onepiece..apparently not doing it.
Thank God that you left alone the Peak Agendas:
Dragon looking East
And 5th Division Commander Vista
At the end of the day vegapunk himself already echoed in his last words who the agenda was truly all about
The pirates
Shanks agenda is generally the worst. The mental gymnastics they'll make to argue around mihawks title is insane. But never keep that same energy with whitebeards title🤣
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In defense of the Zoro vivre card. It still references his conqueror’s haki. Under “conqueror’s haki” it says “zoro’s sword emitted a black flash. Does he have the qualities of a king (conqueror’s)…?!” So it not being listed next to his armament and observation haki while instead being mentioned in this more mysterious fashion doesn’t actually imply he doesn’t have it. It more likely implies he’s just new to this ability and isn’t actually aware that he has it, which is implied since when king brings it up during their fight, Zoro is confused about what he’s talking about. I suppose at worst it could also be coming from the blade somehow and not Zoro personally, but even then, he’s still using conqueror’s haki. I mean the vivre cards also say sanji dodging katakuri’s bullet was indeed advanced observation haki future sight, so the vivre cards have tried to provide further insight in the level of haki of certain characters in the past fairly.
The one that pisses me off the most is people still believing mihawk is vista level. Like I am OK if you think he is near to shanks but shanks is stronger cause mihawk never shown anything and they fought for the last time a long ago, but saying he is on the level of vista is just fucking stupid and I can't believe there are still people out there who think so.
The ones that actually believe that had to have been dropped on the head as a baby lmao
Mannnn the only agenda I have is to stop the admiral downplaying
I don’t even think they can 1v1 a yonko but damn people calling kizaru a fraud and blatantly ignoring the characters internal turmoil just drive me crazy
"Vista is stronger than Mihawk agenda" is the most craziest thing I've had conversation with the Shanks fans..
Sanji fans lk talking about potryal when mentioning zoro for powerscaling...but god forbid u bring up the more prominent zoro luffy potrayal
I think Vista vs Mihawk is a bad example. I think they were relatively comparable pre time skip and then like a lot of things in the story Oda has rethought, fleshed out and changed his mind on designs and concepts in the following years.
Honestly sanji just needs more time to cook with being a complete prev like before the time skip. Fish man arc really just made him suffer character wise to the fans that only watch the anime because of how long it is.
Guy stepped up several times and then some but because he gets less focus out of the main three he suffers from his character being assassinated.
I like how sometimes bounty are used to further agendas, but get promptly ignored when it doesn't fit their headcanon.
For example Zoro>Sanji because bigger bounty, but Zoro also>Kid&Law despite lower bounty.
The important thing about sanji v zoro is the true friendship the rivalry formed. besides, the powerscale debate ended when he blocked a yonko tandem attack and scarred kaido.
@@entrippyZ egghead Sanji>>
@@KrishSingh-wd2yn Keep coping
@@KrishSingh-wd2yn, Oda did allow Egghead Sanji to shine more. When I saw Zoro and Luffy struggling against seraphims while Sanji got to use his Wano powerup to flex, I knew Oda was gonna be writing nonsense this arc with plot-induced stupidity for all of the Strawhats.
Still need a good explanation for why Luffy compared the seraphims to Kaido and then Luffy refused to use the abilities that allowed him to hurt Kaido. Makes 0 sense. 😂😂
@@Shark-hn4mvbrother ur one of the few op fans that actually have a brain!!! Plot induced stupidly was everywhere during egghead. Zoro having 2 separate encounters with the seraphim before realizing they’re part lunarian is hilariously bad writing.
And stalled by lucci so hard + law saved loro ass + kaido didn't scare of anyone he just feels oden haki in enma
Clearly, the admirals can solo joy boy with little to no effort, I mean we saw them defeat luffy at marine ford without a sweat, and luffy is the second coming of joy boy, so clearly one admiral > joyboy
Mhm yeye any admiral mid diffs joyboy ❣️
My agenda was completed. Kid is gone. I was actually so offended seeing him fight Bigmom.
"Sanjis Agenda"... thats crazy cause ZKK was a thing and every week you gotta hear Zoro is yonko level... Most one piece powerscalers only make videos about Zoro, swordsmen, or right hands
My agendas are rarely based on the love for the character.
For example I think Shiryu might be way stronger than people give him credit, but I couldn't care less about him.
I have certain predictions about what I think is likely to happen in the story, and those predictions have certain logical implications.
1. Zoro and Luffy will achieve their dreams around the same time.
2. Luffy will fight BB for the One Piece, and by defeating him he will become a Pirate King.
3. While Luffy is fighting Black Beard, Zoro will be fighting Shiryu.
If these 3 commonly held predictions are correct, then there's a high chance that Zoro will be fighting Shiryu for the title of the WSS.
This means that before all of this, BB pirates will have to fight and defeat Red Head-Cross Guild alliance, where BB will defeat Shanks, Shiryu will defeat Mihawk and Kuzan will defeat Ben.
"The fight starts and Sanji disappears"
Talked about agenda and you didnt say anything about the shanks meatriders 😭
Well they push the Vista and Mihawk are equal agenda for their cope
Op powerscale is just an invention anyway. If tomorrow Oda decide that Kobby will beat Akainu he will do it...
Just look at the admirals, Oda started glazing them, saying that they were WG strongest assets, now we have the god's knights and the gorosei...
Zeff said that Mihawk obatined his title by beating all the notorious swordsmen, yet no relevant swordsmen has yet to be defeated by Mihawk...
Big mom is portrayed as Kaido's equal, the two of them were trying to kill each other for at least an entire night with no result, then Big Mom lost to Kidd and Law shortly after...
Ryokugyu did crush half dead King and Queen and proceed to be humiliated by Shanks a few moment after.
Doflamingo was stated to be strong and just after that Cracker was presented as someone with better haki and physical abilities.
All of this shit doesn't make sense in the first place and you will always have elements to put some strong character above another because Oda is being unclear by design. When he says that Mihawk has better swordskills than Shanks, some people are using this as a proof that he's stronger, some other are using this as a proof that Mihawk's title doesn't concern overall strenght otherwise Oda would've said that Mihawk is straight up stronger than Shanks...
Just look at you for exemple, you litteraly admitted yourself that you had no concrete argument to put Mihawk's conqueror's haki above Shanks conqueror's haki, yet you did it because you're on the Mihawk agenda anyway. You think that Mihawk is stronger so he has a stronger conqueror's haki, that's an hypocritical and circular argument... especially when everything in the manga points to the opposite direction, Shanks being the embodiement of conqueror's haki in the manga (being the first to introduce it, the first to split the sky and the first to use a pecial use against an admiral) !
Everyone is on som sort of an agenda, people pretending to "read" or to be "objective" are using this term to justify their position without having to argue or recognize that someone else's vision could be right in his own way.
I don't like Mihawk because I hate the fact that he never did anything or beat any significant characters in the manga, but I can see why people are putting him above Shanks and I recognize their vision, what I hate is people saying that Mihawk is FOR SURE AND OBJECTIVLY ABOVE SHANKS and that everyone who says the opposite is dumb or can't read while their argument is filled with ambiguity and uncertainty with a lot of possible other interpratations.
Yeah, people don't get the fact that Oda doesn't care about powerscaling and agenda, he will make a character stronger or weaker when the plot needs it.
One of the most absurd agenda-poisoned beliefs I saw from Zoro fans was them trying to spin the narrative that Sanji was a "cheerleader" for Zoro at the end of the Lucci fight during Egghead. Somehow, Sanji literally calling Zoro a liability is him cheering for him on the sidelines(???) If anything, he was more like a coach/teammate telling an athlete to get his head in the game. Not whatever the hell the Sanji haters/Zoro fans were trying to say.
That’s not the point the point was he only overpowered Lucci when Sanji made him mad. Obviously Zoro is stronger than Lucci but it was written in a way to imply he’d struggle more without the rival mentality
Just hit them with the virie card statement that said zoro and lucci were equal during their fight. And for extra fun bring up lucci being weakened from his fight with luffy
HOT TAKE: the gojo agenda ruined the fight between the sukuna cause everyone just screamed bad writing and “sukuna needed maho” without actually reading the context of anything
@@XKIRA376 amen jjk fanbase can't read so that's another topic
Bro jjk fans just read the leaks or watch a video about it, they've just joined db fans in not reading the manga
I used to be like that😂 I have learned
this is like saying Goku is slower then a 50cal because someone shot him with a pistol that one time, or if Ichigo is still only lightning speed because it was in one book that talked about his speed in one of the earliest fights in the series, or Saitama can beat anyone in fiction because the title is one punch man.
Isn't that Saitama one just a title thing? The rest aren't like that.
Saitama is a parody so he automatically is stronger than every opponent he faces, not EVERY anime character in existence, but once he faces them he becomes stronger that's it
@@erbananito_3843 bro you just describe Goku lol
@@WiIhelmScream not really goku has lost battles before and his adaptation is more gradual, on the other hand saitama like gets stronger than his opponet in the same moment he starts to fight him
where do the Brook and Chopper fans stand?
If we had the same mindset as the agenda riders that makes pre timeskip luffy stronger old garp,which makes him stronger than donflamingo and kaido back in marineford.
A new one in the past 2 years is King Vs. Katakuri
THE KOBY AND KID AGENDA WILL NEVER DIE!!!
I Fundamentally don't understand why people power scale to begin with. Why does your character have to be the strongest?
The moment you start calling yourselves a 'fandom' u already fucked up.
Admiral agenda is dead or mostly dead, shanks and zoro tards are the worst out of the fandom. The OG3 admirals would all be yonko level with awakenings, but without it only akainu is after growing from fighting WB and kuzan. Yonkos would be beyond yonko level with awakening. By that i meam kaido and big mom and maybe BB.
you spoke some harsh truths
Egghead Sanji vid when? 😢
Thinking about making it the next one
Everything aside from the first part, you are right. But sanji put the jokes aside and went to Zoro because he knew that he was the only one that both would AND could kill him. You used an incredible amount of speculation and changing the story to fit your own narrative for that, because you are clearly biased.
I lost all hope on Sanji when he broke his leg on a kick-off against that bum ass Vergo
Its fun and all but you cant even engage in actual conversation about the series cause people start to believe their agenda and cant actually read
TO BE FAIR... Zoro do be borrowing Oden's conqueror's haki.
Nah but for real Agenda is fun when in small doses but when people start going extra with it, the shit gets annoying. Like saying Sanji knows Zoro is stronger than him is funny when we're talking about that scene but it is dumb when talking about something unrelated to that moment in Wano and people bring that moment up as serious evidence that Sanji is outright saying he's weaker than Zoro.
Agenda piece is what makes current one piece more enjoyable!
THE AGENDA PIECE IS REAAL
I guess I'm not a zoro fan cause there is no way the Zoro agenda is higher than Mihawk and Shanks agenda or Sanji agenda. I guess I gotta be more toxic.
The whole Agenda Piece thing is hilariousa until people take them seriously. Seriously, a lot of these people straight up can't read.
bro stop yapping, VISTA SLAMS ODA AND WG NO DIFF
bigfan btw
😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
WISTA>=Mihawk
Mihawk=shanks
Shanks>>>kid
Zoro>=kid
WISTA>>>zoro
WISTA SOLOS
I think Vista is being downplayed. We saw how Ace got the position of nr.2, it wasn't because he was the second strongest ignoring Whitebeard, it was because the position was vacant.
Kuzan/Aokiji is nr.10 of Blackbeards crew, you seriously gonna tell me he isn't the strongest of his commanders? I think the same logic works perfectly fine here. Vista could be stronger than Jozu, not saying he is, just it's possible.
And even if not, and even if Mihawk was actually trying against Vista, we have seen time and time again characters way lower than other characters clash for a very long time like Jozu/Aokiji and Marco/Kizaru, if they weren't caught off guard like in those very same fights.
Come on man the only agenda that matters is the Magellan agenda with how he no diffed the bb crew with a stronger bb than what scared an on guard 2 armed shanks that was a rival to Mihawk
It goes beyond delusional stans for a character. This stuff bleeds into theories. We all remember raid will fair and zoro kills kaido. People pushed those agendas soo much to the point they wanted to write the story themselves, then got mad when their agenda wasnt fulfilled.
Oda's rule:
1. Oda is the number one
2. Storytelling over logic
Agenda is the only way to watch one piece
its the worst way to watch one piece
@@bmoney3837 for you
"Aktualli it is agendas and not agenda's"