This didn’t exactly go as planned...
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- The Liquid Devil 6900XT Ultimate is listed at one of the fastest 6900XT's on the planet... so let's put that to the test.
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1:26 Jay, "Yellow, red or blue. Okay, that's cool." - Jay's brain not quite grasping that he can make any color out of those three dyes.
bruh if its not RGB does it even count?
Umm, no. He would need Magenta, Cyan and Yellow to do that.
@@fred_derf ah yes yellow in addition to the yellow he already has.
@@fred_derf that only applies in printing. The 3 natural colors are Red, Blue and Yellow. And magenta doesn't exist, literally it exists outside the color spectrum
@@DreamingAnonymous From Wikipedia article on Primary Colours.
_Before the color names cyan and magenta were in common use, these primaries were often known as blue and red, respectively, and their exact color has changed over time with access to new pigments and technologies. Organizations such as Fogra, European Color Initiative and SWOP publish colorimetric CMYK standards for the printing industry._
"The only limit is our imagination!" And thermodynamics.
And the fact that it can't be had for love nor money......
@@rikprince8414 Graphics Cards - Rarer than rocking horse shit.
if the limit is basicly liguid nitrogen, what about making a combination of known solutions...so like...water cooled pc, but instead of water with liguid nitrogen (somehow) or making some other way to flow nitrogen around the chip...closed circuit or some super fast jet system spraying it to the cpu :D...and also...what about lets say...oveclocking cpu in outer space...where is absolute zero all the time in vacuum?
@@medvidekmisa Outer space would be terrible. The only way to remove heat from a system in a vacuum is by radiation, which is extremely slow compared to conduction
Don't forget 'Availability'... feels like the most important one.
This is why I love to watch JayzTwoCents:
- from "we will beat this guy on No 1. place",
- to "Let's try to get into top 100",
- to "Ah, fuck it".
Perfection! I love it! ❤
Jay starts comparing the GPU in Automotive terms.
Me: "He's going to say stock fuel system."
Jay: "With a stock fuel system."
Me: "Now he's talking my language."
and a tuner that is not familiar with the engine
Right lolol
Username checks out
@Vladimir Croguul one day they will be available and these videos will be available for people looking to buy them so chill out and take the foil hat off
@Vladimir Croguul I have a 3090 and a 5950x... I'm just a normal guy.
Hey Jay, just wanted to say I finished building the pc of my dreams with a LOT of help from the guides, tips, and tricks from your videos. You do a phenomenal job of making pc building entertaining, informative, and inviting to new people. Thank you so much for all that you do for our community!
Jay is a great resource. I finished my first build a few months ago. Without Jay’s video about what to do after building a computer, I would still be installing windows!
what u build? I have a 3700x waiting next year to upgrade and a 3070
If only JayzTwoCents, GamersNexus, Paul's Hardware, etc existed when I was building my first rig on my own without anyone to help. It was way before that era and things weren't as simple as they are now days building PCs. I watched my friend build one of his PCs and after a month or so I got all my components and just went at it. Guess what? It booted at first attempt. I was so proud of myself. Now days you can just follow videos on UA-cam step by step and it's a lot easier to build a PC today than it was back in the day. The only problem I have now is RGB nightmare. There are so many cables if you want to go full on RGB and RGB connectors are so loose... electrical tape helps hold them in place a little better though. But it makes cable management a nightmare on the back side of the case. At least if you get the proper RGB fans, LED strip, etc. It makes it a lot easier to control all the RGB shit. I always go with one RGB brand components and control it through Asus Aura which makes it so much easier. Still a nightmare to deal with in the back of the case. I bet newbies have "REAL FUN TIME" dealing with all the RGB cables.
@@weecious personally, I think RGB cables aren't that hard to work with. Because they're small, flexible, and long, so it's easier to tuck/hide along the edges of the case, and ziptie the excess length. I have an rgb aircooler daisychained with a strip, plugged to 1 header, and 5 rgb fans + controller plugged to another header. Controlled with gigabyte fusion. For me, it's harder to work with non modular psu cables. They're thick, and rigid, making it hard to deal with excess length.
@@creatip123 I have a similar RGB setup. I daisy chained 6 fans and am running an 8 way RGB splitter for them. But I am using a converter that converts 12V into 5V header. It actually supports daisy chaining as well so I could add more 5V RGB fans. My CPU fan which is 5V 3 pin RGB and my mobo has two 12V RGB headers so I had to use a converter but it works rather nicely and everything syncs and can be controlled through Asus Aura. Each header can be controller separately as well as my RGB RAM which has 4 different RGB LEDs in each stick. So plenty ways to customize the RAM. It's unfortunate that I bought a mobo and Asus released a newer version of it which has one of the 5V 3 pin headers. I'd love to have that. Oh well. It is what it is.. other than that it does everything that I need. Although I still hate having so many RGB cables... makes it a bit tough to cable manage in the back of the case. I have a Corsair 275R Airflow Edition and it doesn't have that much room in the back.. plus I am using sleeved cable extensions for GPU, 24 pin and 8 pin for CPU. It makes it a lot worse. The cable extensions are much harder to work with in my case.
with all the faces jay makes he would have the best emotes on twitch
add them to Discord!
I don't really get the twitch thing. It's like...you sit there and watch someone playing a game, and the chat scrolls past 100 lines per second, and...you...play with emojis and do your best to emulate a football audience's belligerent cacophony in text. I can't imagine how that could be enjoyable, heh.
True
Jay needs to be made into one of those new trending plushy stuffed toys like many UA-camr's are being made into .........
@@DarkWraith95 Lmao i would buy one.
Hitting 45,546 in FireStrike and 20949 in TimeSpy with a Red Devil, that Liquid Devil has much more in it!
45,456 in firestrike is a shockingly low score. My 6800 XT reference scores over 56,400
@@Bang4BuckPCGamer that was the combined score, not graphics. Thats over 60K for mine.
I bought 2 used 5700xt red devil cards from Amazon before the mess. One for me one for my wife. 350$ each. They have been awesome for the games we play. Seem like a steal now. Hope things turn around soon.
love the my 5700xt red devil great card.
The 5700 XT aged like fine wine too. I remember seeing a video with the latest drivers from AMD and the 5700 XT was nearing 2080 performance.
i never knew about the screen shot thing... i've always used paint, too! hahaha thanks Phil!
im sitting here amazed. Always though what I was doing was tedious
I'm amazed at the number of semi proficient PC users that don't know about it. Been using it for years. It sure is nice!
Macs have a similar shortcut. CMD+Shift+3 gets you a whole screenshot and CMD+Shift+4 gets you a snipping tool. Both save to desktop.
@@roolin2 The new snipping tool is a godsend.
@@TensaZangetsu1200 as is Win + V (the return of the come back of the son of the multi clipboard history introduced in windows 2000)
Yeah thanks phill I learnt something new today
I finally applied thermal paste for the first time today! On my laptop that I’ve had since 2014 lol it had never been redone since new. Was able to do it because Jay and this channels help! Thanks guy 🙏👍.
Why play games on some cheap old laptop?
@NonLegit Nation Console is better then!
Why the old Laptop?????
@@googlegmail4636 those also cost money. But there could be a million reasons.
Yeah but you don’t have to worry about that when you’re 15 years old and your parents buy you everything you ask them for.
@@Martin52863 what world do you live in exactly?
More Phill Tech Tips please!!
Might be the nicest looking waterblock I've ever seen. Love the design
Jay please try again but this time, use Morepowertool, raise the powerlimit and unlock higher voltage.
Also don't touch minimum clock speed it will cause you crash constantly.
The way I do it is by constantly monitoring wattage.
First decide what watt wattage you want to go for. Like 330w set wattage in Morepowertool to 220w because when you raise the powerlimit by 50% you will be at 330w.
Then set your powerlimit to 10% it will set your limit to 242w.
Then slowly raise your maximum coreclock while lowering the voltage by 5mv.
Get as close to 242w you can with low voltage and high coreclock.
When you found a sweet spot then start raising the powerlimit but 1% and see where the next sweet spot is.
That technique will make you understand exactly was is going on. What causes the crashes, what kind of environment the card favours and what is limiting the card.
You can have a very high coreclock but almost no performance gain if something is wrong.
My first mistake was raise the wattages in Morepowertool to like 400w and crank the powerlimit up, the voltage up and start playing with the coreclock and it gave me worse results than stock overclock.
The card runs best when it can control it self, you just have to fine out exactly what it is doing and point it in the right direction.
*Edited*
Set the memory clock to 2140mhz instead of 2150mhz the last 10mhz can make it unstable. Memory is the last thing you want to touch.
We need some bigger channels to do these tweaks so we can see what these cards can reach. Clearly there's people with really high scores who know how to do it but when it comes to big channels it's always Nvidia cards.
On my reference card, the highest graphics score I got on timespy is 19.746
Clock frequency 2.663 MHz (1.517 MHz)
Average clock frequency 2.548 MHz
Memory clock frequency 2.158 MHz
(2.000 MHz) Average memory clock frequency 2.138 MHz
Average temperature 55 °C (this is not hotspot! I gues my hotspot was around 85c)
CPU Ryzen 9 3900x
Motherboard: MSI Mortar Max b450m
Ram: 32gb ram 3800mhz
Date: 28 december
With the first amd driver.
Back then I was number 1 on timespy extreme with a 6900 xt paired with a ryzen 3900x.
Now after the release of all those third party cards, driver update, bios updates I am on 72. place 😅
Maybe I should try again and see how far I can get with all the new updates.
@@HenrikHvalpen That's really good. I haven't done a test in a while but the highest I got was 19,110 from a screenshot I saved of the results back in December when I got my rog strix lc 6800XT. I'm not sure how the cpu and motherboard effect it but I'm running it on an msi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC (so on pci gen 3) and a Ryzen 7 3700 X.
I'm thinking the test had to have been with my highest 100% stable overclock of 2.7ghz, anything above that has the chance to crash randomly. I haven't tweaked the minimums or anything.
@@TerraWare When running the normal timespy the motherboard and CPU has alot to do with the results. I was on top 10 on that benchmark. Those above me had 570x motherboards and 4200mhz ram.
When running timespy extreme I could compete with those guys because the GPU was the true bottleneck not the chipset.
What I am curious about is I updated the bios for my MSI Mortar Max b450m motherboard and now I have SAM (smart acces memory) enabled, which only was attended for the 5000 seriest CPUs. But now my 3900x has it too.
And indeed I have experience a small performance gain in my games.
@@HenrikHvalpen I have a question for you than. I realize that AMD announced upcoming SAM support for Ryzen 3000 series cpu's and that they're going to be working with their partners but as far as I'm aware it's not official yet and am not sure if AMD plans to support B450 chipset. You claimed to have updated your bios and gotten SAM to work. Is it making a difference with the fps as it should?
msi does have a bios update for my B450 gaming pro carbon ac that ads resizable bar support and for Nvidia cards but it doesn't mention SAM anywhere and I'd assume that if it was official it would say something along the lines of -Added SAM support for Ryzen 3000 series.
I'm wondering if it's worth it to update the bios in this current state or wait until it gets official support. Thanks.
I have the red devil 6900 xt. Love it.
@@ConsiderFirstCnE I care.
Nice gpu man!
@@ConsiderFirstCnE I care...salty boi
Come On,at least be happy for him
i have red devil rx 580. love it
Would be nice to see it paired with a Ryzen and have AMD Smart Access Memory enabled
Jay: "I have an screenshot folder?"
Me, about a minute later: "Does this mean I have a screenshot folder too?"
The more you know.... XD
but you have to use win+prtscn and its just the normal pictures folder
I love shortcuts and never knew this one
YES more OC videos. Love the content you guys!
Gotta love the *Nice*00XT...
Nice100XT
Reddit
6900XT Nice Edition 🤣
Noice 00XT
Jay - Another option for screenshooting a selection of the screen is WIN+SHIFT+S which will allow you to drag and select a section which will then end up on your clipboard (and pop up in the notification bar on the right to allow you to click it and save). Really helpful for things like emails or documents where you want to just paste the file in, and don’t care about saving the file.
Jay : it's all about the water cooling here
Also Jay : Screenshot using MSPaint
Jay, I have 10 years on you.
I just learned about Win+Print screen today too.
Same, i guess paint will never be used again lmao.
1:20 confirmed Jay is that guy in the comments who's always asking for sauce
Love your way of explaining stuff cuz I watch your videos all day after work and I don’t really know what I’m listening to 😂 but every now and then you say it in a way I understand and I feel involved 😂😂😂😂
Jay: An analogy that’ll make sense to a lot of people
**continues to speak car**
car is a universal man language
@@alexmills1329 you’re not wrong, I’m just not at the age to learn it yet
Micro Center just had stock on this card and the 6800xt version but damn they were pricey!
I remember the 6800xt was $1,399 I think the 6900xt was $2100, just crazy!
Probably won't get any at MSRP on shelves this year.
@@onomatopoeia162003 probably not this year either
@@ChristopherNewman63 I saw articles from nvidia in the last couple days. It would be in the 2nd half of this year. I would guess it would be the same for AMD as well.
To push farther you probably need to increase the power limit in MPT and start undervolting. Undervolting in Radeon software isn't the same as the Nvidia side. It essentially functions as a negative voltage offset that lets the card boost higher sooner in the voltage table similar to PBO offsets on Ryzen CPUs.
yes it's also tunable in super small increments of millivolts which makes it absolute "speed" cars style
You know what Jay I love you man. I love how you goof up and you just keep going cuz that's real and that's how life works and you know what that'll make you the smartest person in the room because you're going to admit fault figure out what you did wrong and fix it so kudos to you sir. Thanks for making content and making me giggle.
The lighting/shadows on your tool wall make my eyes hurt like watching a 4D movie with no glasses 🤣
windows+shift+S for screen capture. making a instant specific screenshot of your screen.
if the windows 95 wallpaper are just for the meme. ^^
immediately started looking for this comment at that point in the video, best way to print the screen.
Have you ever considered putting the test rig in a vacuum chamber to avoid condensation?
Phil, bro I can freaking thank you enough for that win+printscreen tip, I been using MS paint to save screen shots since 1995 *LMFAO*
That windows+ print screen shortcut is a game changer!!!
Jay you need to use MPT more power tools. Have mine running 320w 21k on timespy without touching the clocks.
400w with 2700mhz max gave me around 21.5k.
I own a 6800XT and was not happy with the performance but saw the potential it was just not consistent. MPT worked without issue and now my GPU Rocks. I never knew this program existed until seeing your comment cause I was just searching for how to lock GPU clocks and did not think about raising the power limit. Thank you..
"The rarest GPU on the planet" Oh so he is just going to use any gpu
Desktop wallpaper is dope.
You should do a video explaining all of the benchmarks, what do they do, what do they test, and how to know if you obtained a good score !
Yes.
You've obtained a good score if your number 1 on the list
@@smoothlyrough512 yeah.. otherwise you should burn your computer in a fire. Get better performance that way.
Pretty sure they give you red, yellow and blue dyes so you can mix your own color ;).
Exactly what I thought. Lmao
Jay - Colors hard
Will Skunkworks ever get some love again or will it forever be a background piece?
@13:07 it runs less stable if the temps are higher.
This is why people run stability tests for over an hour to ensure it will not crash at the highest temps, this is due to that fact the higher the temp, the less resistance and it will require more power to run at the same freq.
Jay you're not dumb you're awesome
Those liquid devils are nice lookin cards. I wish more waterblocked from factory cards would come out. Makes it so much easier! If I could find one for reasonable prices I would buy it for sure. And BTW you are NOT dumb Jay. They are jealous when they say those things.
bare cards would also be nice for water cooling people who maybe want their own block supplier. that is a card with no cooling solution at all, Biggest flaw I could see is some idiot seeing a cheaperish card and ordering it and then burning it up or bitching on reddit that x supplier gave them no cooling solution.
One thing I've noticed, and I think you might be able to get a little more headway with water is to salt it. Your ice will melt faster, but the water will be able to go below normal freezing level. Just a thought.
Please don't add salt to your water cooling loop. Add alcohol or polyethylene glycol (antifreeze). Of course if you run pure alcohol it might be a hazard.
6900XT: "And this is go even further beyond"
thank you for changing the backing audio track. makes this video watchable
Jay's OC videos are so damn good bro!!!!
This comment has to be sarcasm....
There’s an app called more power tool that lets you unlock the amperage and watt limits all the way which even with the ~330W bios I think it is on that card, you are likely hitting. I’m around the mid 20’s on fire strike Extreme and ultra with my reference card because I water cooled it and left my computer outside on a day that it was -20F. I was really mad when that day came around because I updated the motherboard bios and there was a cache speed bug that crippled my CPU score. At the time I was 12th and I was so close to top 10. Big sad. Also Big Navi loses score before it crashes, so try backing off when you hit the stability limit
Place the hole thing in a vacuum to get rid of the condensation and use dryice instead
Thanks Jay. I have an ASRock 6900xt that will occasionally hit 2750 mhz but under load the temps stay around 80 and 100-105 for the GPU temp and edge temp. I was considering buying this card but I see from this video that bringing those temps down won't result in any better performance. You literally just saved me 2100 dollars.
Those temps aren’t normal regardless. Pick up a kraken g12 and an aio
@@SeventhCircle77 ended up buying a 3080ti and flipping the 6900xt to a guy locally for a gigabyte 3080 and 5600g.
After dipping my toes in the rabbit black hole that is the diy/enthusiast mech keyboard thing, I instantly thought "lube that keyboard" at 5:39. I need help.
love the car comparison because I love cars!
Thanks Phil for the tip!!!!!
Mine will be here Friday gonna be sick with my formula mobo and 5950x can’t wait
Control + alt + print screen will copy your screen to the clipboard :P
Damn!
Print screen alone will do that also
@@Felixprogram control + alt + print screen will only grab the monitor you last clicked on tho
@@crazynamehere6701 ah, okay, thanks for this information
Use Shift + Windows key + S for screenshot tool. It’s call snip and sketch and it will save to your clipboard and you can further save from your Windows notifications side panel.
Creators Update
notifications panel was nuked recently
Woah I'm learning new shit today!
what silliness is Jay up too now....Next Episode Phil teaches windows stuff everyone should already know.
Im a PC user for last 20 years, Jay i did not have a clue there is a shortcut ( win key + prnt. Scr. ) and screenshot folder lol 😂. I always used Paint like you did ... We learn every day i supposed. Gr8 video guys.
Until now, I took screenshots exactly like jay.
You can do Win + Shift + S to screenshot a specific region. It'll copy the image to your clipboard.
Could the difference be smart access memory?
Yeah, it also raises the question of whether the AMD driver runs better on AMD CPUs? I think Jay should not have used the Intel CPU.
even on the leaderboard, top 100th use ryzen 5000 series
Better the brain juices turning than the brain gears flowing.
The secret is called More Power Tool. The 333w limit is the primary performance limiter on the 6900xt with liquid cooling.
PowerColor should release a "Dirt-Devil'' card, for us poor folk....
But, will it run Crysis?
Total old school here. Did not know there was a screenshots folder......or that you could hit the windows key and printscreen to save something.
even cooler: Press winKey+shift+S and you're given a snipping tool to drag around anything on the screen. Whatever is captured is saved to your clipboard, or you can click the notification that pops up to annotate it and then save it as a file, or back to the clipboard again.
These videos once had a plausible air of relate-ability when one could simply switch tabs and actually order a card on Newegg. Now, they just feel like something from an alternate timeline.
Im ALWAYS saving screenshots in PAINT - best way to do that 😎
I wonder if different versions of GPU drivers affect the results 🤔
that car analogy was kind of sick love when car guy jay creeps into these videos.-From a car guy
Thanks. Love your videos even if no records are broken, always great to watch!
I am new to your page, I am looking at every video you have and I will be watching every one of them to learn damn well everything i can to build my own and understand components
Hey Jay, You in SoCal. A shot of Tequila after every run should make it go faster.
7:10 Ive been doing copy and paste in paint as well. I to did not know about the windows+print command lmao
I still do it in paint, it doesn't even bother me :D
I do that too sometimes but mostly use ctrl+shift+i which is the ReLive screenshot command.
I understood the car analogy more than some of the other information from the video
cracked a phattie when daddyjay started talking bout cars like he knows shit
Super old video but I believe the issue might be that the card is overvolted. If you watch gamersnexus videos on navi overclocking they had better results at lower voltages.
Yeh my xtxh core likes to be at 1120mv, atm i get 24k+ gpu score in timespy with a 5800x
I thought you could undervolt it to make it more stable I’ve done it with my 6800xt and got incredible scores
Seems Der8aur broke the world record with a Liquid Devil 6900XT Ultimate.
6:53 I'm set in my Windows 95 ways too, Jay lmao! You know you're turning into tech grandpa when the kids are teaching you things...about your own profession. (teach em' well cause they might end up teaching you). Thanks for the PROtip Phil! Lmao!
New here, still need tips, lol!
LETS GO ANOTHER JAYZTWOCENTS VIDEOOOOOOO BROUGHT TO U BY IFIXIT 💣💣💣💥💥💥
@jay you could download red bios editor, to be able to mess with the voltages, red bios editor from Igor's lab will probably be the first to hit 4000mhz.
This
It changed the game on my 5700, with just a deshroud and fans it runs faster and colder than a 5700xt
Windows + Shift + S also let's you do a quick screenshot, but one where you can crop the section you want to screenshot. Very neat.
You can increase base power and max voltage even higher with MorePowerTool. PowerPlay tables are key to unlock if further.
Dale Brasillll kkkkk, love the vids Jay
OMG I always use paint for the screenshot lmao hahahahaha I never knew
Jay my man. You a car guy too? Props!!! Love you videos keep pluggin away at that leader board.
Thank you phil. For the Win + print screen.
Your ice water setup could be dramatically improved. Directly plumbing the ice water into the block would lower temperatures and be more stable. I would suggest buying a twenty to thirty gallon steel barrel or steel trash can, and utilizing a kio pond pump that is designed to run submerged in sub zero water. As this would provide the volume/flow needed to hold stable low temperatures, and still have the needed depth to keep ice clear of the pump. Just avoid salt and use a small amount of alcohol or ethanol (aka e100). No idea how to unlock a 6900xt though it's been bloody unobtainium trying to buy one=_=
I didn't pay attention to the rest of this video because of that darn sticker...
Guess you're getting two views from me today Jay....
Snipping tool really is faster though Jay. It copies it straight to the clipboard to paste wherever you want it and you can edit it from the notification.
minds blown on that screenshot thing...ive been doing it the paint way for close to 20 years...
Who ever disliked video is just mad they can’t get one of these cards
LOL. you ARE so FUNNY
first
To the top!.... not
Love the engine analogy, 100% perfect explaination.
Great analogy about the fuel system on an engine! The inability to tune voltages is a huge hinderance.
damn 12 sec late xD
“Congrats to everyone who is early and who found this comment"🕺
Almost there buddy
@@N1lav it's a bot, don't call it "buddy"
@@Antwon22 lmfao
you did that one thing wrong where you did that other thing and than looked at that thing, you know.... that thing! yeah you did that wrong 😂
Phil Tech Tips is real. I never knew you could press Win + PrtScreen either.
Love the analogy at the end!
So I was at 15304 on Fire Strike Ultra. After seeing the performance of this liquid cooled card complete with a ice bucket wasn’t too far ahead I did some tweaking. Put up a 15654. I think that is not bad for a poor little air cooled MERC 319 6900xt.
Thnx Phil for the lesson how to make a print screen directly to a folder. Didn't know, like Jay 😋
If the 6900xt is the same as the 6800xt: When OC'ing with just the Radeon Software, the secret to getting an actual performance boost is lowering that voltage slider.
The 6800xt is not the same.