Ultimate Kang The Conqueror Fights EVERYONE
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Ultimate Invasion (2023) Issue 4
▸ THE END...OR THE BEGINNING? War breaks out as timelines and universes collide! Iron Man must choose between the lesser of two evils - the Maker or Kang. But what secret does Iron Man know about the men behind the masks? And at the end of it all, the world outside your window will be forever changed! Don't miss this giant-sized, action-packed conclusion - or is it only the beginning...?
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It seems like it will be Tony. Kang is clearly wearing an Iron Man-style helmet in this story, and the suit Tony builds is almost identical to the one Kang shows up with.
It would also make sense with the current mcu which seems to be setting up Kang being a descendent of tony.
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@@tommyjarvisstepgrandfather4581 with the idea kang controlled the events of everything predating the Loki series. Kang said the avengers were allowed to mess with time, meaning kang needed those events to happen. Tony also specifically prevented his daughter from dying, preserving his lineage, why else would kang want tony to have a daughter? Plus he invented time travel, kangs specialty. The reason why strange only saw one path to beating thanos is because everything had to happen that specific way because kang controlled the timeline. Why have tony have a daughter if he isn’t a descendent
I'll just throw Victor von doom as this kang.
There's no way it's not Tony. The suit he makes at the end is quite literally a color pallate swapped version of the kang suit. Not to mention he chooses to go by the name Iron Lad which, in another universe, is Nathaniel Richards (Kang). Also the fact he found captain America and one of the hero clones Kang used was cap
Hickman is working really hard to do with 4 issues what he can to set this up. I think this is some good hype for this time loop universe and what could change just from this alone man. I think this is his way of flexing that skill of trying to compress that dude.
If Ultimate Kang is The Maker (which I think is the case,) it'll be a masterpiece.
The Maker: "If you could do it all again-- if you could truly change things-- if you had the chance... Would you erase me from existence?"
Reed Richards: "...Yes."
The Maker experiments with reality. He *fundamentally* alters it. He is an Ivory King. He is from beyond.
I don't think an Ultimate Nullifier will work on The Maker, because he essentially already doesn't exist. He has a form of quantum immortality. The Ultimate Universe is gone. Miles doesn't remember, because *he was given his new existence by Owen Reese.* He is technically native to to multiverse, not something The Maker had the luxury of. So would a nullifier even recognize him as "existing?"
But the branching timelines created when The Maker took off the spider from Peter Parker, he creates *multiple Makers.* Makers that are native to their multiverse, ones that *naturally* exist; even if it's a perversion.
But most of all, if it would work on him, The Maker would already be gone. He's going to have a nullifier used on him; it's the Chekov's Gun. Because he's already from a nullified universe, *he is already a null value.*
This means *The Maker* is the antithesis of the Eddie Brock, not The Beyonders. I hope, because the story with them recently was *trash,* with a writer *way* overrated.
This was an interesting way to reintroduce the ultimate universe in Marvel.
god i’m so excited for the reboot! ultimate universe comics got me started when i was 6 years old. i’m 27 now and still in it! this is going to be incredible
Tony's Iron Lad armor in his comic is, identical + palette swapped, this kang's outfit. Very likely
Been waiting to say this “TIME FOR A KANG BANG”. 😂
Man I'm not going to lie The moment I saw Howard Stark put his hand on his face in my mind I was like oh man he just realized he killed Tony obviously I could be wrong but that is the first thought I came to my mind
I'm going to be honest we need more of your amazing stories about the multiverses Omni versus and Omega Level universes in the Enigma universe
The title alone earned a click
Idk what you on but you should be always clicking when it says ultimate universe anything.
Fact
And that is why clickbait happens
My brain said Dead ass and I clicked😂
This is the conclusion. You should start at the beginning.
I think both are Kang. Remember Howards 3rd option. So the Kang that we see is future Howard fighting against the Maker, however present Howard recognizes his work and uses his new Immortus Machine to break the time cycle. Stopping the maker and freeing him of his fate to constantly fight him. However, he unintentional set Tony on the path to be a better version of Kang, designed to save their world. So to me both were Kang.
Interesting that Illanya /Magik was the one to come up with the idea of splitting up North America. Fits her character and the others. She's probably the most capable as of a combination of coldness and intellect left in that room
Kang looks like he's wearing Lex Luthor power armor. I wonder if that was intentional.
if you look, aside form a color swap, iron lad's armor and Kang's are the same so, I vote that its tony.
Rob, I am so glad I have your channel to watch because I was mostly confused during these entire 4 issues. Hickman's writing makes my brain implode sometimes
I like Hickman’s writing, but this series is far from his best.
I was under the impression from the suit Tony builds that he is definitely who becomes that Iron Kang variant. Short of the color scheme, his suit is identical to Kang in this story.
This Comic hit Kang levels of confusion ill tell you that much ... Its a good run but then your brain start disintegrating trying to understand WTF going on
“Our meeting left quite an…impression.”
Impression.
IMPRESSION.
I get it.
~_~
Considering Howards reaction, I'd say, at the very least, it's Tony's body. Is it his mind? Hard to say with Comics.
9:55 I literally have no knowledge of this story but when I first saw the Kang suit and look I immediately said that has to be Tony Stark.
Ma, get the camera. Tony Stark’s making heroes fight each other again.
Hey 👋 wassup! It's been awhile! How's the mustache?
This was good 😊
I think it’s Tony, if you look at the Kang clone army there are no iron men involved, why because Kang wouldn’t want more versions of himself. Howard being Kang feels like a weak plot point because then your arguing a self fulfilling prophecy as opposed to a sins of the father story where Howard realise his choices created a son who he now views as a monster which gives guilt and further guilt by realising you just killed said son
17:30 I half expected you to start singing "You got the TOUCH" by Stan Bush right here.
Howard's letter to Tony reminds me of the lessons Reed was giving to Valyria in New Avengers !!
“He’s the guy that knows how to rally everyone. Tony and Doom are looking for ultimate Black Bolt”
Its definitely Tony Stark. It's the very first thing I thought when I saw Kang's suit.
The maker: Give up captain!
Rogers: Do you think this A stands for France?!
God I missed this hilarious prick.
2:55 kang looks DRIIIIIPPY
Honestly I love the idea of it being Howard because he becomes the monster he hates. It goes with what we learned in only myself left to conquer on how Kang doesn’t want to become kang but has to anyways.
With that ending monologue (which I'm guessing was written before unmasking Kang) talking about how Tony was the only good thing he's ever made, it would be all the more tragic if Tony actually became Kang.
That Howard stark monologue in the cave was crazy bro was cooking
16:03
All you gotta do is look at his mask here and it tells you everything.
The iron lad thing feels like it sealed the deal.
Beyond omega level: icon from dc
man I'm really into this, I'm so pumped!
Amazing! 🫡
I think it would be more of a twist if it wasn't Tony at this point.
Hey Rob? I just watched ur Pickle Rick vid. Dude,ur hilarious😂😂😂
It's definitely Tony. No doubt. Howard committed to fixing the problem. Even Kang wanted to fix the problem. Only other option is Kang is Captain America. It would make sense. Immovable values and tactical planning. Tony decides Captain America deserves the suit more. Not to mention, little suggests Kang is a villain in this iteration, as opposed to others. Just someone fixing time.
This is a cool theory! I still think it's Tony but this would be dope
Rob so smooth and good in this video!
I was waiting for this video
Loved this want more lol
It’s Johnathan Majors!!!! Lol
ultimate universe is back! i cant wait for this again.
You could have called it the "kangclusion" of the story. Robert, you have stubbed my soul.
As we used to say in the Army, Capt. America from the Ultimate universe is Capt. America "Reborn HARD"
17:27 right there when you said the guy who always knows how to lead the charge I immediately knew you were talking about captain America I said to myself captain America
Sadly, they choose the unoriginal route again...
13:54 Dr. Doom saying he's sorry is the most OOC thing ever.
This isn't Doom. It's Reed of that universe locked up in the armor.
And Reed tends to be more humble than Doom.
I was wondering why Howard Stark would be wrapped up by the beauty of his work, then went and rewatched what Rob was saying at 16:03, but was actually, "I was so wrapped up in the good things I was doing-- the work and the BOUNTY that work provided us.." and then went..ahh, that made more sense..
“What does this A on my helmet stand for?!”
Could be fun to see some of the less popular characters getting the ultimate treatment this time around. Using elements from their unused Ultraverse would be even better.
Three new 10 or 12 issue maxi series should be enough to showcase an alternate version of the world (when we take a look at divergent Earth X we know what can be accomplished with 30 issues).
Maybe by exploring different corners of this universe we’ll get an Ultimate Panther that rebels against Khonshu or a Spider Woman set in Asia, Jericho Drumm in South America, Spectrum/Photon & Quasar/Uranian vs Euroforce etc. Also having the original Nick Fury from 616 show up would be nice (inversion of the concept).
We wuz ultimate Kangz n sheit
Oh it's definitely Tony!
I believed its Obadiah stane, the closer the enemy is the harder it is to see them. Who is closer to you than family and friends?
Hmmm. Gotta watch this one!
The streaks down Tony's helmet are straight up like Kangs. Js. 🤷🏻♂️
I love the look for this Kang
My money was on it being Tony but I'm usually wrong about these things so I'd assume I'm wrong here.
My money is on tony being kang 😅
Look at the new suit for crying out loud. It's clearly Tony😂. It's the exact same design, just different colors.
Damn so epic
I'm so glad I accidentally stumbled upon this channel a couple years back
I thought it was pretty clear Tony was Kang, because of the disappointment Howard had when he took the mask off. Only two things could leave a man that disappointed, finding out he was evil in the future or a child was evil.
Howard's reaction suggests it'd Tony.
The Austin powers in Rob leaked out . 😂 Yeah Baybee
Howard's Iron Man suit looks clean
I dare him to fight the Sentry, he’ll get stomped, and I’m talking about base Sentry, Death seed Sentry or Merged Sentry won’t even bother with him
Called it, in the last vid it was tony all along as a twist on iron lad but matured and also not a real kang variant. Hickman is an actual rap god 🕺🏾
Freaking Howard, "Howard" you so bad ass..get it
Hear me out, what if Kang is Ultimate Cap? Saying that he waited two lives seems kinda specific to something like Cap since obv he's a man out of time. What if at some point He and Tony become comrades and in a conflict with the Maker, Tony dies. In response to the death Cap takes up his armor out of respect and takes revenge on the man who killed his best friend. It's DEFINITELY a reach, but fun to think about.
The only issue with that is Howard's reaction when he took off Kang's mask, if it was Steve who he's never met there would be no reaction except maybe confusion
Two lives could also mean his father’s life and his life.
But Captain America is not some tech freak, what would he do with some time travel stuff bto
Huh. I thought it was pretty explicitly saying that Kang was Tony. Didn't even notice it was ambiguous.
I wonder why you changed the thumbnail style. It felt like i havent seen your videos pop up in a long time
i thinks it’s kinda obvious that he’s gonna be kang, especially with him saying i’m iron lad man
“YOU THINK THIS ‘A’ STANDS FOR FRANCE!?”
Definitely Tony. There were too many earlier notes to have it be anyone else.
Suit looks like a blend of Iron Man, Lex Luthor, celestial and Black Panther Armors
Oh, this is the evil reed Richers takes over the new ultimate to universe. You just had to say that it would’ve gotten earlier click. Luckily, the new thumbnail showed that missing piece of his head. Then I knew what it was.
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Can’t wait for it to either get followed up and lead to nothing or not get followed up at all 😂
I do believe Ultimate Invasion is just the start of a trilogy series just like the Ultimate Galactus series
It's pretty obv its Tony.
He made the same suit and helmet just different colord
I thought it was Tony the moment Howard interjects. Excited to find out who it really is!
Also, hell yeah, comrade Howard? 👀
It's a long shot but my guess is this Kang is a cured Ben Grim from the future 😅
Bruh You didn't read Ultimate Invasion #2. Everyone except reed in the fantastic four is dead. Bruh
I don't think it's Howard, I think it's Tony trying to fix his past and all the things he did wrong. And you have to look at the armor, definitely more Tony then Howard! And if it's Tony it gives the MCU a new way to bring in the fantastic four.
I'm still not clear on how The Maker escaped to 1610 around the time of the King in Black event, and then wound up being imprisoned in 616 at the start of this.
Is there a playlist for this ultimatr story? So I know which is 1, 2, 3, etc
If there’s ANY version or variation of Kang The Conqueror that’s scary, it’d have to be the ULTIMATE version!!!!!!!!
The reason i dont like kang is because he feels like a 8 graders who is nothing special bullying 1st grade kids because his advantage is hes from the future and time travel really hard to write well
I can’t wait for the relaunch of Ultimate Spider-Man by Hickman and everything else coming out after this, this is awesome
when does the one shot release ?
I thought Rob was Goin to start the video with MAAAAMN lemme tell u something now 😂
This a prime example of writing what’s fun vs following the mcu.
1st one to come to mind when Howard looked down in shame was Tony
Hickman is a world treasure.
This is so confusing lol
Why does ultimate kang look like he kidnapped Access and stole Lex's power suit?
Probably the version we will see in secret wars.
Talkin dirty babauy
The Maker is probably also Ultimate Kang, just like main Marvel Kang has his own variations that can concurrently act in the same timeline.
Iron lad ? I guess Kid Iron was already taken.
Rob any new superboy prime comics dropped lately ?