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The difference btween Anette's pop style limited vocals and Floor's powerhouse all around dynamic vocals is a Night and Day difference, Anette was a 'studio" performer ,but the true tell of an artists talents are in a Live performance
If your into this, I would check out "Sancta Terra" by Epica. Their lead singer and Floor Jansen actually trained as singers together and there is a great live performance of the song where they both perform it together.
I'm glad that you found a suitable format to highlight all the relevant aspects, both in the studio recording and in the live performance. The analysis of the musical composition, as well as the lyrics, raises the bar for the professionalism of this reaction. I await with great interest your next contacts with Nightwish music, because I see that you recognize good quality. Thank you!
I was at this show and you can't imagine how it was. I remember my jaw hurting from standing wide open most of the time. It was my first time seeing Floor with Nightwish, like it was for most people in the crowd and she got us all fell in love within seconds. She is a real beast on stage and such a kind humble down to earth human being at the same time.
One of THE Best reaction/analysis of Nightwish ! I think you are on point with your score system ! Well done sir !!! Thank you for this one !!! Of course more Nightwish Please !!!!! Romanticide from the same concert is awesome as well !
I'm subscribed to over 200 reactor channels, and I will therefore offer an expert's rating of your channel. Perfect 10 out of 10. Your delivery style, format, and content are so far ahead of anyone else's (and there are a lot of really good reactors out there). Your approach, with studio followed by live, just blows even the best of the best right out of the water. Love hanging on every word. I hope you will continue to do more Nightwish. Can't wait to see your head explode when you get to Poet & The Pendulum and Greatest Show on Earth!
I totally agree. I have watched many reactors to this song. This guy is one of the best and in some ways the best. The thing missing is a deconstruction of her singing but that is on other channels so it's not a big deal.
I agree on "The Poet and the Pendulum" from the first studio album with Anette in 2007 and the live rendition with Floor at Wembley (U.K.) 2015. B@The MusicKingdom: In that song, composer and keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen has buried his pain, which the forced dismissal of Tarja Turunen has left with him. I am also curious about your analysis of the lyrics of other songs, like EverDream, She's my sin, etc. in which Tuomas expressed his affection for a woman, who I think might have been Tarja herself, although he had never been more than a good friend to her, since both met at school. Therefore, "Ghost Love-Score" rates an imaginary love affair, that never came true. Marcelo, whom Tarja met in 2000 and married in 2003, once said that Tuomas did not like him, because he was jealous of him. Indeed Marcelo was jealous, too and started to split Tarja from the band. At no time he let Tarnie unaccompanied to the band and all communications between the band and Tarja had to be done through him, which brought up new problems of course. Tuomas had always been a shy, introverted dreamer, who preferred to express his feelings in writing, while "macho man" Marcelo seemed the opposite of Tuomas, e.g. when, as manager of the undisputed star Tarja, and thus "the most important figure" in the whole troop, he repeatedly strutted down the red carpet in front of the band...Master Passion Greed, the song exlusively dedicated to Marcelo, is the most griefful and angry song, Tuomas ever wrote. Yet it had never been played live as the anger left...
Never underestimate the genius of Tuomas Holopainen, both musically and lyrically. You will find, as you continue your Nightwish journey, that while each song has a definite Nightwish flavor, they are all different and unique. I liked the setup of this reaction and review. I thought it added a great deal in depth and quality to the entire thing. I know it's a lot more work for you to do a long video like this, but the results were outstanding. I do hope that it isn't another five months until your next Nightwish journey because I will certainly be looking forward to it. My suggestion for the next songs to look a would be Ever Dream and Romanticide. They're kind of a set of bookends in their messages. And, in both, you would finally be getting a look at their bassist/male vocalist who is a force to be reckoned with in his own right. As for which version of Storytime I liked best. I like both of them but, yeh, I'll take the live version with Floor.
👍😊 I am a hughes fan of Floor jansen in all genres She is the best vocalist I ever heard in my live (I am 69) Nightwish, After For Ever. ,Revamp,Nordwand ,her covers she makes at home during covid time,her solo album and Beste Zangers a Dutch TVshow 2019 and a her coöperations with other bands and her soloshows With Nightwish is the perfect combination! But the rest is magic to
Nightwish has had 3 "Incarnations first was the "Dark Queen Tarja, then the second the Queen of Pop, Annette, and then the world came to know ... Floor ....the "Goddess"
What a great review of one of my favorite Nightwish songs. It will not surprise you that I have a strong preference for the live version. I know this song was written for Anette and while I thin she was great on the Album, Floor brings more power and energy to the song. Floor also sings more than Anette, cause Anette couldn't sing the operatic bridge and the high belting in the end. BTW Tuomas (keyboards) is the composer and the poet who wrote this song and he said he felt like a million bucks after getting the chorus exactly how he wanted it. I have seen Nightwish (including this song live a couple of times live) they are awesome. I love how you take the time to research the song, the structure, the production the tempo and basically every aspect of a song. Your review added insight from new perspectives, therefor you have new subscriber. I hope you will consider doing another Nightwish favorite either Romanticide or Song of Myself both from this Wacken 2013 concert. I think specially Romanticide will blow your mind as there is a second vocal.
Nice to see you back reacting to Nightwish. Floor has the ability to elevate a song to be the best it can be. A mixture of power, dynamics and the range of her voice combine to bring a song to the next level.
An often-forgotten point about the lyrics is that they are written in the composers THIRD language (In Finland, Swedish is the official second language). I don't even have a third language let alone the ability to compose quality lyrics in it. Respect to Tuomas Holopainen for this!
Interesting, I had no idea Swedish was their official second language. I know Floor is fluent in Swedish as she lives there and Hannes (husband) is Swedish, she was struggling with Finnish though. Tuomas was an exchange student, he lived a year in the US, I'm sure that's one of the reasons ( I suspect he reads a lot also) why his English vocabulary is more than average. It's all contributing to the fact that he can spoil us with lyrics besides awesome music.
@@littleraven28Tuomas is a language virtuoso because most people even after 10 years of living in a foreign country, don’t master the new language half as good as he does. Marco too has excellent English for a non native English speaker. I do detect some accent when they are just talking (casually) but hear non when they are singing, same goes for Floor. Tarja on the other hand, beautiful voice but I couldn’t abide her heavy Finnish accent. I know it’s not polite to judge but when you’re a professional singer you should work on perfecting your pronunciation. I’m Dutch so I know that that’s a thing here. When Dutch people choose to sing in English, they get branded if their English in anything but perfect.
@littleraven28 About 10% of Finns have Swedish as their first language. Road signs etc are in both languages, and often, you will see things such as "Helsinki/Helsingfors" with "Helsingfors" being the Swedish word for Helsinki.
@@irenehabes-quene2839 Yes Tuomas speaks English very well and I know that Marko's father was an English teacher, so he probably learned it at a young age at home. I do detect some faint accent on both but mostly in the rolling 'r'. Floor being Dutch I'm not surprised her English is good. Tarja - great voice but awful thick accent making whatever she sings incomprehensible. Hence the alternative lyrics on Wishmaster ( Hamster, a dentist, hard porn Steven Seagull etc 😂) Most Dutchies are good in English, I know, I live in Floorland now. Wel beetje accent maar goed.😁
I like this format, studio review/breakdown and then live reaction. I think it works for a band like Nightwish. Floor is my absolute favorite vocalist. Nightwishs's catalog is deep.. but of all their songs.. I'd recommend the "Poet and the Pendulum" for your next Nightwish review. That will make for a very long video.. but the fans will watch it. The live reaction part would of coarse need to be one performed with Floor at vocals.
A great studio live comparison with two different vocalists. All three Nightwish leading ladies were/are wonderful and of their time and essential to the evolution of Nightwish but for me Nightwish live with Floor is the Gold Standard. Thank you for a great reaction 🙏😊👍❤️
I love this concept of you doing first the studio version and then the live version. Please keep it up!😊 (It makes it even more interesting since the album version might have a different simger than the live version)
Exactly. Valkyrie Goddess onstage humble sensitive human woman, wife, mother, sister, and daughter offstage. Also one who puts in the work on her voice offstage in order to sound great in the studio and on-stage.
Minor technical point. Floor is using head voice and not falsetto during the high passages. The two terms are often used interchangeably. But they’re actually two quite different techniques. Most really good singers don’t use falsetto very much due to its limitations. Floor has an impressive ability to seamlessly and effortlessly shift her placement between head, chest, and mixed voice as well as different musical styles. It’s pretty much her trademark as a vocalist And it’s that talent and carefully honed skillset, which requires dedication beyond having just talent, that sets her apart from roughly 99% of the vocalists out there. Her vocal fluidity is the thing most people notice immediately once they get past her natural charisma and stage presence. To put it in a nutshell, she’s the real deal. :-)
Yes, "The poet and the pendulum" from Wembley 2015. I also listened to the live version with Anette; it is not bad but compared to the version with Floor rather weak. Anette is telling a story from outside, Floor sings directly from Tuomas' heart.
I saw it referred to in the comments, but there is a documentary on the changeover from Annette to Floor. The docu is called "Please learn the setlist in 48 hours" it is Finnish Narrated with subtitles but a must see nontheless. Yes, it is on UA-cam.
This whole concert is epic. And that Floor is still a fill in singer for the band. Annette left the band mid tour and Floor was given 48 hours to learn the setlist and join them on tour. This 100 minute concert was toward the end of the tour, and most folks first acquaintance with her. You see the band members smiling during the concert as Floor had the crowd in the palm of her hand. She became a permanent member very quickly. For very good reason.
I find Nightwish an interesting band for several reasons. The Studio/Live split is one of them. Toumas seems to keep both aspects in mind when composing. Because of the style they play with backing tracks that maintains the backbone, but they Play the backing tracks and with a combination of that and pad are able to increase the power during a live show. Some times it is subtle, but the ability to cover with that extra provides a consistent great show. You would see it on the days Floor was a bit under the weather as the choir background would be brought forward just enough so she could bring her energy down to what she could sustain. But that is true for all the players just more evident with vocals. But so far you have just seen Floor singing back catalog and are in for a real treat when you get to the more recent compositions written with her in mind.
I suggest you try "wish i had an angel", "ghost river", "amaranth", " song of myself", "dark chest of wonders", "ever dream" live from wacken13 too And also "want my tears back" and "dead boys poem" from buenos aires "last ride of the day" live at masters of rock "The poet and the pendulum" and "your is an empty hope" live from wembley "The greatest show on earth" live from tampere yeah all live, we all apreciate what anette did for the band, but floor is in another level of power, voice, presence, performance, all... Man you just begin in this nightwish journey Thanks for the reactions to nightwish and our queen floor
Nightwish army Italian division present ! As for my personal taste i listen only the live versions of Nightwish songs, i found them more big and powerful than the studio versions, and as for Floor Jansen vocals, i will listen her singing the phone book all day long (she did it once as a guest in a dutch radio).
Hello again, Music Kingdom. Nightwish Army Phoenix subscriber back here for you. I'm very happy to see you return to analyzing and reacting to Nightwish. In my not-so-humble (IMNSHO) opinion, Floor Jansen is the greatest thing (except for Tuomas Holopainen) to ever happen to Nightwish. To hear the studio version, nicely sung by Annette Olzon, but without her singing the operatic middle section or the incredible end section of the song merely illustrates Floor's incredible talent. And yes, it is her vocals in combination with her mastery of stage presence and command of the audience. I really liked your rating system including your use of the EXPERT on musical composition... I could have just used an adjusted rating for the live performance. That said, this was a job, very well done. Thank you, sir.
I'm 74 and Floor's stage presence is as good or better than any singer I have witness in my time. Floor is the only female singer I can watch perform with the sound turned off. She is that awesome.
As for the comparison between studio vs live version... I NEVER even thought of listening the studio version since I knew who was singing it and quite frankly expected it to be almost a waste of time... because we have the unparallel live consert versions around. Well on the studion version was still nice to hear for the orchestral parts which are more on the background in the live version. So I did not like the fact the rating been given by the studio version... or at least would have liked to have the adjusted overall rating after the live version run through. But this was amazing reaction video to see... one of the best. Waiting to see much more Nightwish (please: LIVE versions) reactions...
Great reaction, thank you. You seldom hear Anette, this album is just so amazing. And I miss Nightwish so much ...so so quiet around them now, but thankfully there is a new album to look forward too.
Very in depth and a great watch. I hope we see more from you. So much more super Nightwish to come. There are a number of great tracks that I am sure Gabriel has on his list in comments on first reaction. One that is not always reacted to called Sahara is wonderful and shows more versatility in style. You literally have seen nothing yet. Nightwish is the Swiss Army Knife of music just as Floor is the Swiss Army Knife of Singers.
Your production (including text)😊😊😊😊😊 is just very good. One of the best i ever saw (and i saw thousands…). Great reaction from your side.❤ well done by whole band - and composer TUOMAS - and the choir…he arranged IMO.
About the training....Floor only joined the band 10 months before this show. The first show when she took over from Anette (USA) , she looked more ready to barf than to perform (Please learn the setlist in 48 hours). 4 weeks later in Buenos Aires the band had already cranked up the volume and their intensity to keep up with Floor. And at this show in Wacken - Germany, it looked the material was specially written for her and it was THE PERFECT show.
Floor is in real life a very humble, almost shy person. When she get's on stage something magical happens and she just owns the crows. It's freaking bizarre, the contrast. Yes, she was definatily born to be on stage.
Im really craving for your review of Poet and the Pendulum and The Greatest Show on Earth. A lot of work for sure, but those two together with Ghost Love Score are the Big Three of Nightwish and just some of the best contemporary music out there I'm sure.
Thank you for yet another awesome video! I really like what you are doing! Im a music nerd myself and I really enjoy the analysis! Now, what I really think is the coolest detail about these to performances is the fact that the choir bit in the studio version is mostly replaced by Floor in the live version. Annette couldn’t do that even if her life depended on it, and that really shows us just how insanely good Floor really is. She outshines a great vocalist like Annette woth ease becuase of her raw power and versatility. Floors way of just floating through timbres is absolutely astonishing. She’s never flat or off key, I have rarely seen her strain and if she does its becuase she has gone way past of what is considered humanly possible. I’ve seen clips from concerts she has fine where she has a severe case of stomach flue and still you can only detect a few minor signs of strain. Most people would be either in bed or in the can. And yes, the best thing about Nightwish is their stage presence. Anyone who has gone to a Nightwish show can attest to the fact that they really go all in every night. You really feel like their playing for the fans and that they really want us fans to be happy. And you can also tell that they truly are happy to be there. They’re constantly smiling, laughing, interacting with the crowd and that makes for a hell of a good time! So if you ever got a chance to go to a show, don’t hesitate! Nothing can beat a Nightwish show!
Welcome to the Nightwish army (Dutch division)! Wishing you a great journey down the rabbit hole from Nightwish! When you're ready for it see...yours is an empty hope and the poet and the pendulum (but first read the background information and see the Wembley version).
and fyi: Floor Jansen was only 10months with the band at this concert, and she didn´t know that she is already a member ;) She entered while they worldtoured from January 2012 until August 2013, this show is the 2nd to last as a tour replacement for the 2nd singer who got ill
Even in Nightwish universe, the Wacken 2013 is a totally legendary gig. Every song performed there is the best performance of that song ever, anywhere. It's pretty insane that every song performed there is better performance than the respective song on the studio album. And as tight as they play and perform, that hasn't been repeated this far.
I'm really happy you've come back to NW and hope you do more in the future, but if you'd like to try something a bit different that would blow your mind... like Ghost Love Score blow your mind... you should do a review/analysis of Ayreon's 'The Day That The World Breaks Down'. One music nerd to another- trust me. ;)
I have been lucky enough to see Nightwish live various times and have watched innumerably more reaction videos. For me, your reaction has been one of the most enjoyable - I appreciate your knowledge, insight, honesty and in particular your focus on (and inherent understanding of the) the musicality. My (current - it does change) favourite Nightwish tracks are Song of Myself and Dead Boys Poem - both better live (imo). Liked and subscribed and off to explore your other content. In the meantime, take care ❤
please, throw away all "concepts" for this channel, grab your older professional brother... ready up some snacks, some drinks ... watch the whole 2013 Wacken Open Air show, and record yourselfs i think this will be a good christmas present for all involved :)
I LOVE this format! It's so cool to watch someone break down the original and dive into where the song started before watching the live version to see what it has become. Some of the nuances from the studio doesn't translate as well to live mixes and of course stage presence and the crisp sound of live instruments and vocals doesn't always translate well to studio. Of course it makes a huge difference that there is an entirely different singer with a different style. It means there's more to appreciate when they have different styles. Of course people will have preferences but it doesn't mean that you can't appreciate a different take. I just really love this approach. I also have to commend you on not letting the more aggressive fans turn you off to the band. I have a huge amount of respect for you for that. Kudos!
Thank you for your reaction and the expert composer! I'm really curious how you both think about "Song of myself". Studio version and live at Wacken with Floor Jansen. Greetings from The Netherlands.
Anette Olzon is often overlooked, especially when compare to Floor, but she is an amazing singer and this stuff is very hard to sing. I usually suggest to wait for the NW epics until 3 or 4 songs in, but since you guys are smart, im gonna suggest The Poet and the Pendulum (2015 for the live) or The Greatest Show on Earth (Wembley) if youre ready to make a 40 minute video. Love the channel. Its the only reaction channel i really watch anymore. 10/10
👍What a great review.I never liked the studio version of this song,the 2th and 3th voices of Annette sound like "Mickey Mouse" it sounds to me "they" put a high pitch shifter on that,it doesn't really sound naturally to me.I know! Annette is not a bad singer but,really,Floor fit's this style of music like a glove. With Floor it's just the instant vibe you get and hold your atention. It's like you said; you can learn some things but,some people just have this natural gift.🤘
Thank you for a yet another very good reaction and analysis, guys! I do not reall if I have ever said that here, but when I first heard that Floor will be joining Nightwish my thought was: 'Yep. It's going to be amazing'. Because I was already familiar with her work with After Forever and ReVamp and of course I have been following Nightwish for many years and their struggle to find a fitting vocalist was real. Btw I would like to chastise the person who commissioned a Mastodon review. Way to spoil a first reaction to them from this channel. Well, at least you didn't go for any of the later albums. Btw2: are you guys recording the info about the band and song before or after the actual reacting and analyzing part? Because if so then I personally would be wary of this since it can build up certain expectations or misconceptions or even command your way of thinking about the track instead of forming your own opinion first. This it my 2 cents. Looking forward to more videos from you. And yeah, doing studio and live at least in the same video - definitely a step up. Makes me think that you are finally beginning to see the light :D And sorry for sounding so condescending.
Only discovered your channel tonight so I’m sorry if you’ve already done this, but please look into the story behind The Poet & The Pendulum by Nightwish then do a reaction vid to it. First time I heard it, I didn’t know any of the story behind it. I thought it was a bit weird (I like weird though) but I knew there was something more to the song that I just wasn’t getting. I kept being drawn back to listening to the song though (probably cuz I can relate to a lot of the lyrics due to being in a very dark place in the past). Once I looked into the real meaning behind the song, I was totally blown away. It’s truly a work of art. I now understand why they call Tuomas The Mozart of Metal. It’s such a deep, metaphorical, well written song & Floor just takes “amazing” to another level. I honestly can’t get enough of reaction vids to Pendulum. I love seeing people’s faces as they hear it for the first time. Every time I hear Pendulum, I notice another new detail I’d missed in the hundreds of times I’ve heard it before. You just got yourself a new subscriber from across the pond in Northern Ireland - but PLEASE react to The Poet & the Pendulum 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
With all respect for Anette, she can't compete with Floor. Anette is a studio and more poppy singer (and not good live), where Floor is a real live singer and fully trained in classical singing, opera and theatre AND finished the rockacademy. Everything Floor touches becomes gold instantly. Also te bandmembers are so freaking good live. I was lucky I saw them 6 times, and also was at the Wacken festival where this was recorded. The live version has so much more dynamics, the instruments sound better and yeah....you do not need a choir for the high parts with Floor. But it adds somethingvery special. Floor makes the vocal lines so much more interesting (not flat) and her range is extra ordinary (she can go so much higher than this) Tuomas is such a great composer and you never know where the song wil bring you. He also works with the London Philarmonic Orchestra, writes the music for all instruments and choir. They use it as backtracks because it's undoable to get the whole orchstra on stage everytime they perform😂 You were really nice with giving Anette's vocals an 8. I think an 8,5 is just right for the studio version. IMO the live version deserves at least a nine out of ten.☺ Thank you sir
In quality/production, Nightwish top5 is probably Dead Boy's Poem, Ghost Love Score, Shoemaker, Greatest Show on Earth and Poet and the Pendulum, in no particular order. None of those are in my top5. Ask 10 random NW fans and they'll have completely different best-of lists, which is proof that Nightwish has something for everyone and they keep very high level.
Floor covered the Lady Gaga song, Shallow, on the Dutch variety show Bestie Zangers. It would be very interesting to hear your thoughts about the two different renditions.
I really liked your approach. With Nighwish, it is clearly noticeable how the songs develop according to the different singers. In addition, it can be seen how the players and their playing together improve as well. Good studio version vs live performance from Nightwish are: Sleeping Sun or Ghost River (Imaginaerum)
The studio is with there 2nd singer Anette Olzon 2007 - 2012 in the operatic part Anette could not sing it so they use a backing tract , The live is with there current singer Floor Jansen 2012 - current she sang the operatic part herself. If I may suggest there song "7 Days to the Wolves" live at Wembley 2015. I think that song will make you feel like this one did
Greetings and Love from Köln/Cologne, Germany. Awesome reaction like always. Well, I don't think there was much time to rehearse for Floor & Nightwish. During the 2012/13 world tour, Annette left the band. Floor was asked if she could step in because Nightwish didn't want to cancel the last concerts. Floor agreed and had to learn and master all the songs on the setlist within 48 hours. I wish you and your love ones a peaceful X-Mas time, buddy..& stay safe ♤
Excellent idea of doing studio version and then live version. If you can find it I recommend watching this entire show. I have it and I have not found a single mistake or mis-queue through the 2 hours and 15 minutes. Emmpu does not break a string, Marko's voice never cracks or goes off key, Tuomas never hits the wrong key and all pyrotechnics fire correctly. It was technically a perfect show. I see the General of the Nightwish Army has dropped by. Gabriel, upload your list to him so that he has some choices. If you get around to doing it, I would recommend "The Poet and the Pendulum", BUT, you must research the letters from the band to the first singer, Tarja and then her response and then understand that the song was written from Tuomas's point of view. Do the Official version live at Wembley Arena in 2015. Also if you want to make John work his butt off, also review "Greatest Show on Earth" Live at Tampere in 2015. The song is only 24 minutes and change.
Hello. Are you wondering how many samples were necessary for this? The fact is that it was Floor Jansen's first appearance with Nightwish and she was only asked 3 days before the concert if she would fill in. So much for rehearsals :) You can see it in the documentary
@frankk1pro484 It would be really nice if you had done a bit more research before you post such silly "facts". This isn't by far Floor's first appearance with Nightwish. Floor joined Nightwish on Oct., the 1st of 2012 for the show in Seattle, performed on the rest of the North American leg of their tour, then they went to South America, and Australia / New Zealand. They had a 4 month touring break from mid January to mid May, toured Japan for three dates and played the European festival season in the summer of 2013. All in all, Wacken was the 46th show (if I counted correctly) for Floor with the band. But, this is still pretty darn impressive, what great chemistry they had developed in such a short time. Not many bands have that tightness, even after a lifetime of touring...
The song describes the main character of the film. Studio and live are very different for Anette. Live she gives the songs a jazz touch that doesn't work. The consequence can be seen in the number of clicks on UA-cam, which are very few for her live recordings. They disappear between the live recordings of Floor and Tarja. Nevertheless, after her dismissal, Anette publicly asked who should sing Storytime now (because she did it so uniquely). The Wacken video provides the answer. Tuomas often writes rollercoasters that suddenly change direction. This usually takes more than 3 minutes and is beyond radio capability. After Tarja, Tuomas probably wanted to develop the music with Anette in the direction of Within Temptation, the other co-founder of symphonic metal. But he had robbed Nightwish of the soul and corrected that again with Floor: Within Temptation - Bleed Out (official music video) Ghost Love Score is one of the "big three songs". “The Poet and the Pentulum” and “The Greatest Show on Earth” increase this even further, also in length. On the current record, "All the Works of Nature Which Adorne the World" is a 30 minute orchestral piece that is divided into 8 tracks and has never been performed live. They used the last track on the tour as the end song during the bow and Floor then sang again. Floor's father says about her first appearance that he saw a completely different daughter there. The stage Floor and the private Floor seem to be two different people. In the photo this one Event you can already see a Floor that is under tension from top to toe. Even back then she sang with her whole body.
Completely agree with you that live with Floor is superior. However important to remember that this comparison is not only between official vs live version, but between two different vocalists.
I understand, from a composers standpoint, why you would want to do the studio version. But Nightwish really shines live. Floor really shines live. She's a natural empath, so she soaks up the crowd's energy like a capacitor, then discharges it in the best way possible. There's an energy being transmitted there that a studio can't do. And Floor Jansen is the only floor that's never flat. She's so good that it is somewhat effortless for her, and that allows her to concentrate on the crowd, and the interactions. And She had only been with the band about 9 months at this point. Some folks in the crowd, this was the first time they ever saw her, or heard her. Digest that for a second. She was still that good. She's a Valkyrie.
As for their live performances, they do use an orchestral backing track as it’s quite difficult to tour with a full orchestra, but they are absolutely playing live. There’s a click track that Jukka (the drummer) is playing to and Tuomas (keyboard) triggers and controls the recorded orchestral tracks and plays individual keyboard instruments on top of it. It’s quite a technical show and they do it so damn well.
I really enjoy your reactions and analysis! I reckon you are ready for the - in my opinion - greatest Nightwish song: Poet And The Pendulum. It is really important to read the backstory for this song as it makes it so much more emotional. It's about how Tuomas - the composer - felt after the band had fired their first lead singer - Tarja. It's deep and deeply emotional song. Again Floors live version - this time from Wembley 2015 - is in my opinion the best rendition of the song, but the studio version is the one I fell in love with. Can't wait to hear you tackle that beast.
thank you for your reaction, i enjoyed that. if you want to go for a little softer side of nightwish maby "i want my tears back" from wacken or "my walden" would be a good listen, on the slightly harder side you could go for the wacken showopener "dark chest of wonders" or the show ender "last ride of the day" my preferred version is from masters of rock 2015
If you want contrast, look at the Buenos Aires performance where they dug out some of their old songs and adapted them to their then-current lineup, with additional band members and added experience - I'm a particular fan of what happened to "Devil and Deep Dark Ocean" myself, but others like "Come Cover Me" also bring it home.
Very nice reaction and analysis man! I have a little advice for you. I see that you don't have enough time to do reaction videos regularly. So I guess you won't go on a full Nightwish journey as many channels do. In my opinion the best way to continue is with the 2 masterpieces of Nightwish. 'The poet and the pendulum' 'The greatest show on earth' both live from Wembley (no studio version is needed, believe me). We are not talking about great songs. As I said before they are masterpieces. Maybe in the top ten of modern music. In the same category with 'Bohemian rapsody' or 'Stairway to heaven'. If you choose to do this, you may find it helpful to read one or two things about those two compositions.
I feel you would really appreciate Seven Days to the Wolves. The live version usually reacted to is Wembley 2015, but I’d definitely love to see a reaction to both the album live version as in this video 🙂
Hearing the album version for the first time, I'm surprised how delicate and child-like Annette's performance sounds. I really prefer Floor's interpretation and the live performance, too. The band itself deserves praise. When Kai took over as drummer, he said it took two hours to transcribe Jukka's drum parts so he could reproduce them correctly. Also, I wonder if the line "The core of all life is a limitless chest of tales" is a call back to the earlier song "Dark Chest Of Wonder"?
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Hope you enjoy, worked my ass off on this one. What do you like most from either version? Share your thoughts!
The difference btween Anette's pop style limited vocals and Floor's powerhouse all around dynamic vocals is a Night and Day difference, Anette was a 'studio" performer ,but the true tell of an artists talents are in a Live performance
About rehearsals ? Floor came in mid tour late 2012, this Wacken show was the end of the tour , she had to learn the set list in 48hours
If your into this, I would check out "Sancta Terra" by Epica. Their lead singer and Floor Jansen actually trained as singers together and there is a great live performance of the song where they both perform it together.
Check out Pan or Shoemaker. Floor performed on Beste Zangers for Solo performances.
Well said! Floor is the best singer Nightwish ever had. The greatest singer on the planet.@@nicod1361
I'm glad that you found a suitable format to highlight all the relevant aspects, both in the studio recording and in the live performance. The analysis of the musical composition, as well as the lyrics, raises the bar for the professionalism of this reaction. I await with great interest your next contacts with Nightwish music, because I see that you recognize good quality. Thank you!
I was at this show and you can't imagine how it was. I remember my jaw hurting from standing wide open most of the time. It was my first time seeing Floor with Nightwish, like it was for most people in the crowd and she got us all fell in love within seconds. She is a real beast on stage and such a kind humble down to earth human being at the same time.
Lucky You ❤🔥🤘👏👏
I saw Floor on stage when she was just 18 and can confirm she is indeed born to be on stage.
What an experience that must have been!!
Yep, I go back to Star One. No doubt AT ALL!
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Live version of any song with Floor is the best!
One of THE Best reaction/analysis of Nightwish ! I think you are on point with your score system ! Well done sir !!! Thank you for this one !!! Of course more Nightwish Please !!!!! Romanticide from the same concert is awesome as well !
Much appreciated!
I'm subscribed to over 200 reactor channels, and I will therefore offer an expert's rating of your channel. Perfect 10 out of 10. Your delivery style, format, and content are so far ahead of anyone else's (and there are a lot of really good reactors out there). Your approach, with studio followed by live, just blows even the best of the best right out of the water. Love hanging on every word. I hope you will continue to do more Nightwish. Can't wait to see your head explode when you get to Poet & The Pendulum and Greatest Show on Earth!
I totally agree. I have watched many reactors to this song. This guy is one of the best and in some ways the best. The thing missing is a deconstruction of her singing but that is on other channels so it's not a big deal.
I agree on "The Poet and the Pendulum" from the first studio album with Anette in 2007 and the live rendition with Floor at Wembley (U.K.) 2015.
B@The MusicKingdom: In that song, composer and keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen has buried his pain, which the forced dismissal of Tarja Turunen has left with him.
I am also curious about your analysis of the lyrics of other songs, like EverDream, She's my sin, etc. in which Tuomas expressed his affection for a woman, who I think might have been Tarja herself, although he had never been more than a good friend to her, since both met at school. Therefore, "Ghost Love-Score" rates an imaginary love affair, that never came true. Marcelo, whom Tarja met in 2000 and married in 2003, once said that Tuomas did not like him, because he was jealous of him. Indeed Marcelo was jealous, too and started to split Tarja from the band. At no time he let Tarnie unaccompanied to the band and all communications between the band and Tarja had to be done through him, which brought up new problems of course. Tuomas had always been a shy, introverted dreamer, who preferred to express his feelings in writing, while "macho man" Marcelo seemed the opposite of Tuomas, e.g. when, as manager of the undisputed star Tarja, and thus "the most important figure" in the whole troop, he repeatedly strutted down the red carpet in front of the band...Master Passion Greed, the song exlusively dedicated to Marcelo, is the most griefful and angry song, Tuomas ever wrote. Yet it had never been played live as the anger left...
What a compliment!
Never underestimate the genius of Tuomas Holopainen, both musically and lyrically. You will find, as you continue your Nightwish journey, that while each song has a definite Nightwish flavor, they are all different and unique. I liked the setup of this reaction and review. I thought it added a great deal in depth and quality to the entire thing. I know it's a lot more work for you to do a long video like this, but the results were outstanding. I do hope that it isn't another five months until your next Nightwish journey because I will certainly be looking forward to it. My suggestion for the next songs to look a would be Ever Dream and Romanticide. They're kind of a set of bookends in their messages. And, in both, you would finally be getting a look at their bassist/male vocalist who is a force to be reckoned with in his own right. As for which version of Storytime I liked best. I like both of them but, yeh, I'll take the live version with Floor.
👍😊 I am a hughes fan of Floor jansen in all genres She is the best vocalist I ever heard in my live (I am 69) Nightwish, After For Ever. ,Revamp,Nordwand ,her covers she makes at home during covid time,her solo album and Beste Zangers a Dutch TVshow 2019 and a her coöperations with other bands and her soloshows
With Nightwish is the perfect combination! But the rest is magic to
Nightwish has had 3 "Incarnations first was the "Dark Queen Tarja, then the second the Queen of Pop, Annette, and then the world came to know ... Floor ....the "Goddess"
I concur
The Siren, the Witch, and the Valkyrie
What a great review of one of my favorite Nightwish songs. It will not surprise you that I have a strong preference for the live version. I know this song was written for Anette and while I thin she was great on the Album, Floor brings more power and energy to the song. Floor also sings more than Anette, cause Anette couldn't sing the operatic bridge and the high belting in the end. BTW Tuomas (keyboards) is the composer and the poet who wrote this song and he said he felt like a million bucks after getting the chorus exactly how he wanted it.
I have seen Nightwish (including this song live a couple of times live) they are awesome.
I love how you take the time to research the song, the structure, the production the tempo and basically every aspect of a song. Your review added insight from new perspectives, therefor you have new subscriber.
I hope you will consider doing another Nightwish favorite either Romanticide or Song of Myself both from this Wacken 2013 concert. I think specially Romanticide will blow your mind as there is a second vocal.
NW LIVE with Floor is ALWAYS the best way to go
No doubt about it.
You should've watched the entire video, he watched the live performance with Floor as well.
@@MetalMann-de3xi i did after i already commented...😆
Nice to see you back reacting to Nightwish.
Floor has the ability to elevate a song to be the best it can be. A mixture of power, dynamics and the range of her voice combine to bring a song to the next level.
An often-forgotten point about the lyrics is that they are written in the composers THIRD language (In Finland, Swedish is the official second language). I don't even have a third language let alone the ability to compose quality lyrics in it. Respect to Tuomas Holopainen for this!
Excellent reminder!
Interesting, I had no idea Swedish was their official second language. I know Floor is fluent in Swedish as she lives there and Hannes (husband) is Swedish, she was struggling with Finnish though.
Tuomas was an exchange student, he lived a year in the US, I'm sure that's one of the reasons ( I suspect he reads a lot also) why his English vocabulary is more than average.
It's all contributing to the fact that he can spoil us with lyrics besides awesome music.
@@littleraven28Tuomas is a language virtuoso because most people even after 10 years of living in a foreign country, don’t master the new language half as good as he does. Marco too has excellent English for a non native English speaker. I do detect some accent when they are just talking (casually) but hear non when they are singing, same goes for Floor. Tarja on the other hand, beautiful voice but I couldn’t abide her heavy Finnish accent. I know it’s not polite to judge but when you’re a professional singer you should work on perfecting your pronunciation. I’m Dutch so I know that that’s a thing here. When Dutch people choose to sing in English, they get branded if their English in anything but perfect.
@littleraven28 About 10% of Finns have Swedish as their first language. Road signs etc are in both languages, and often, you will see things such as "Helsinki/Helsingfors" with "Helsingfors" being the Swedish word for Helsinki.
@@irenehabes-quene2839 Yes Tuomas speaks English very well and I know that Marko's father was an English teacher, so he probably learned it at a young age at home. I do detect some faint accent on both but mostly in the rolling 'r'. Floor being Dutch I'm not surprised her English is good. Tarja - great voice but awful thick accent making whatever she sings incomprehensible. Hence the alternative lyrics on Wishmaster ( Hamster, a dentist, hard porn Steven Seagull etc 😂) Most Dutchies are good in English, I know, I live in Floorland now. Wel beetje accent maar goed.😁
I like this format, studio review/breakdown and then live reaction. I think it works for a band like Nightwish. Floor is my absolute favorite vocalist. Nightwishs's catalog is deep.. but of all their songs.. I'd recommend the "Poet and the Pendulum" for your next Nightwish review. That will make for a very long video.. but the fans will watch it. The live reaction part would of coarse need to be one performed with Floor at vocals.
A great studio live comparison with two different vocalists. All three Nightwish leading ladies were/are wonderful and of their time and essential to the evolution of Nightwish but for me Nightwish live with Floor is the Gold Standard. Thank you for a great reaction 🙏😊👍❤️
I love this concept of you doing first the studio version and then the live version. Please keep it up!😊
(It makes it even more interesting since the album version might have a different simger than the live version)
Floor is so a nice and humble person (her dog). But on Stage, she is a beast (her wolf)
Don`t forget the magic door between on and off stage.........🤣🤣🤣
Exactly. Valkyrie Goddess onstage humble sensitive human woman, wife, mother, sister, and daughter offstage. Also one who puts in the work on her voice offstage in order to sound great in the studio and on-stage.
Wellwell, at Wacken Floor sang all the operatic parts herself, no prerecorded choir. Live Floor is the best entry to Nightwish. 😎👍
The choir was there ... Floor's voice almost prevents you from noticing.
@@jpdemer5sure, but the choir part Anette didn’t sing at the album at all, was done by Floor, live.
Need to ge Nightwiish The Greatest Show on Earth live at Wembley. You will not be disappointed.
Normally I'd say some one isnt ready until at least 3 or 4 songs in... but... this channel, these guys arent dumb - they'll get it. I 2nd this.
This type of compliment is the best type of compliment 🥹🤌🏼
Minor technical point. Floor is using head voice and not falsetto during the high passages. The two terms are often used interchangeably. But they’re actually two quite different techniques. Most really good singers don’t use falsetto very much due to its limitations. Floor has an impressive ability to seamlessly and effortlessly shift her placement between head, chest, and mixed voice as well as different musical styles. It’s pretty much her trademark as a vocalist And it’s that talent and carefully honed skillset, which requires dedication beyond having just talent, that sets her apart from roughly 99% of the vocalists out there. Her vocal fluidity is the thing most people notice immediately once they get past her natural charisma and stage presence. To put it in a nutshell, she’s the real deal. :-)
Wait until you get to "The Poet and the Pendulum" and then "The Greatest Show on Earth" ... absolute masterpieces! - live, absolutely live!
Yes, "The poet and the pendulum" from Wembley 2015. I also listened to the live version with Anette; it is not bad but compared to the version with Floor rather weak. Anette is telling a story from outside, Floor sings directly from Tuomas' heart.
Always live with Nightwish 😊
I saw it referred to in the comments, but there is a documentary on the changeover from Annette to Floor. The docu is called "Please learn the setlist in 48 hours" it is Finnish Narrated with subtitles but a must see nontheless. Yes, it is on UA-cam.
Yes..there's a smile in this song..❤
This whole concert is epic. And that Floor is still a fill in singer for the band. Annette left the band mid tour and Floor was given 48 hours to learn the setlist and join them on tour. This 100 minute concert was toward the end of the tour, and most folks first acquaintance with her. You see the band members smiling during the concert as Floor had the crowd in the palm of her hand. She became a permanent member very quickly. For very good reason.
You have a great concept here. Keep these reaction/reviews coming!
Floor was with the band about 10 months here, she had 48 hours to learn the setlist - there is a doco to show it!
I find Nightwish an interesting band for several reasons. The Studio/Live split is one of them. Toumas seems to keep both aspects in mind when composing. Because of the style they play with backing tracks that maintains the backbone, but they Play the backing tracks and with a combination of that and pad are able to increase the power during a live show. Some times it is subtle, but the ability to cover with that extra provides a consistent great show. You would see it on the days Floor was a bit under the weather as the choir background would be brought forward just enough so she could bring her energy down to what she could sustain. But that is true for all the players just more evident with vocals.
But so far you have just seen Floor singing back catalog and are in for a real treat when you get to the more recent compositions written with her in mind.
I suggest you try "wish i had an angel", "ghost river", "amaranth", " song of myself", "dark chest of wonders", "ever dream" live from wacken13 too
And also "want my tears back" and "dead boys poem" from buenos aires
"last ride of the day" live at masters of rock
"The poet and the pendulum" and "your is an empty hope" live from wembley
"The greatest show on earth" live from tampere
yeah all live, we all apreciate what anette did for the band, but floor is in another level of power, voice, presence, performance, all...
Man you just begin in this nightwish journey
Thanks for the reactions to nightwish and our queen floor
NW has no "bad" songs!
Now, this is a REACTION! More, please! 🥰
Nightwish army Italian division present ! As for my personal taste i listen only the live versions of Nightwish songs, i found them more big and powerful than the studio versions, and as for Floor Jansen vocals, i will listen her singing the phone book all day long (she did it once as a guest in a dutch radio).
Hello again, Music Kingdom. Nightwish Army Phoenix subscriber back here for you. I'm very happy to see you return to analyzing and reacting to Nightwish. In my not-so-humble (IMNSHO) opinion, Floor Jansen is the greatest thing (except for Tuomas Holopainen) to ever happen to Nightwish. To hear the studio version, nicely sung by Annette Olzon, but without her singing the operatic middle section or the incredible end section of the song merely illustrates Floor's incredible talent. And yes, it is her vocals in combination with her mastery of stage presence and command of the audience. I really liked your rating system including your use of the EXPERT on musical composition... I could have just used an adjusted rating for the live performance. That said, this was a job, very well done. Thank you, sir.
Amazing band, and even more amazing live concerts, not so common combo. Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮
Live is always the way to go with Nightwish
Live is always the best option with NightWish especially with Floor.
I'm 74 and Floor's stage presence is as good or better than any singer I have witness in my time. Floor is the only female singer I can watch perform with the sound turned off. She is that awesome.
Yes, Floor is mesmerising 🙏😊👍❤️
Very enjoyable more soon please Thankyou for sharing
As for the comparison between studio vs live version... I NEVER even thought of listening the studio version since I knew who was singing it and quite frankly expected it to be almost a waste of time... because we have the unparallel live consert versions around. Well on the studion version was still nice to hear for the orchestral parts which are more on the background in the live version.
So I did not like the fact the rating been given by the studio version... or at least would have liked to have the adjusted overall rating after the live version run through.
But this was amazing reaction video to see... one of the best. Waiting to see much more Nightwish (please: LIVE versions) reactions...
Great reaction, thank you. You seldom hear Anette, this album is just so amazing. And I miss Nightwish so much ...so so quiet around them now, but thankfully there is a new album to look forward too.
Live Nightwish with Floor is my personal favorite. I NEVER liked the live stuff before but NW changed all that! ❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Very in depth and a great watch.
I hope we see more from you.
So much more super Nightwish to come.
There are a number of great tracks that I am sure Gabriel has on his list in comments on first reaction.
One that is not always reacted to called Sahara is wonderful and shows more versatility in style. You literally have seen nothing yet.
Nightwish is the Swiss Army Knife of music just as Floor is the Swiss Army Knife of Singers.
I like the fact that you did both album and live in one video, it is refreshing :)
Floor is the GODDESS!!! Nightwish with Floor is the way to do it!!! PERIOD.
Your production (including text)😊😊😊😊😊 is just very good. One of the best i ever saw (and i saw thousands…). Great reaction from your side.❤ well done by whole band - and composer TUOMAS - and the choir…he arranged IMO.
With Floor you can never be disappointed, but maybe high hopes from Pink Floyd vs high hopes with NW….
Much appreciated!
About the training....Floor only joined the band 10 months before this show. The first show when she took over from Anette (USA) , she looked more ready to barf than to perform (Please learn the setlist in 48 hours). 4 weeks later in Buenos Aires the band had already cranked up the volume and their intensity to keep up with Floor. And at this show in Wacken - Germany, it looked the material was specially written for her and it was THE PERFECT show.
What a great reaction and analysis, love the format - sub'd for the Nightwish journey 🤘🤘🤘
Floor is in real life a very humble, almost shy person. When she get's on stage something magical happens and she just owns the crows. It's freaking bizarre, the contrast. Yes, she was definatily born to be on stage.
Im really craving for your review of Poet and the Pendulum and The Greatest Show on Earth. A lot of work for sure, but those two together with Ghost Love Score are the Big Three of Nightwish and just some of the best contemporary music out there I'm sure.
I still listen to a lot of Anette's solo stuff but Floor is something else man.
Great reaction! You still 2 greatest songs left... And many more from Nightwish
Thank you for yet another awesome video! I really like what you are doing! Im a music nerd myself and I really enjoy the analysis!
Now, what I really think is the coolest detail about these to performances is the fact that the choir bit in the studio version is mostly replaced by Floor in the live version.
Annette couldn’t do that even if her life depended on it, and that really shows us just how insanely good Floor really is.
She outshines a great vocalist like Annette woth ease becuase of her raw power and versatility.
Floors way of just floating through timbres is absolutely astonishing. She’s never flat or off key, I have rarely seen her strain and if she does its becuase she has gone way past of what is considered humanly possible.
I’ve seen clips from concerts she has fine where she has a severe case of stomach flue and still you can only detect a few minor signs of strain. Most people would be either in bed or in the can.
And yes, the best thing about Nightwish is their stage presence. Anyone who has gone to a Nightwish show can attest to the fact that they really go all in every night. You really feel like their playing for the fans and that they really want us fans to be happy. And you can also tell that they truly are happy to be there.
They’re constantly smiling, laughing, interacting with the crowd and that makes for a hell of a good time!
So if you ever got a chance to go to a show, don’t hesitate! Nothing can beat a Nightwish show!
Welcome to the Nightwish army (Dutch division)! Wishing you a great journey down the rabbit hole from Nightwish!
When you're ready for it see...yours is an empty hope and the poet and the pendulum (but first read the background information and see the Wembley version).
and fyi: Floor Jansen was only 10months with the band at this concert, and she didn´t know that she is already a member ;)
She entered while they worldtoured from January 2012 until August 2013, this show is the 2nd to last as a tour replacement for the 2nd singer who got ill
I thought that too but was corrected: Floor and Troy were asked to stay permanently before the Wacken show but they announced it officially after.
Your reactions and reviews are outstanding. Please go on with Nightwish. You‘ll not regret.. Greetings from germany 🔥🤘🫶
Even in Nightwish universe, the Wacken 2013 is a totally legendary gig. Every song performed there is the best performance of that song ever, anywhere. It's pretty insane that every song performed there is better performance than the respective song on the studio album. And as tight as they play and perform, that hasn't been repeated this far.
Allegaeon “Proponent for Sentience III “
Allegaeon “Gray Matter Mechanics “
I agree that this is an amazing album... which I really only know by the live performances over the last several years :')
Greeat work!! congratulation!.. long live Nightwish!!!!
Grat format, thanks a lot, greetings from Colombia
I'm really happy you've come back to NW and hope you do more in the future, but if you'd like to try something a bit different that would blow your mind... like Ghost Love Score blow your mind... you should do a review/analysis of Ayreon's 'The Day That The World Breaks Down'. One music nerd to another- trust me. ;)
I have been lucky enough to see Nightwish live various times and have watched innumerably more reaction videos. For me, your reaction has been one of the most enjoyable - I appreciate your knowledge, insight, honesty and in particular your focus on (and inherent understanding of the) the musicality.
My (current - it does change) favourite Nightwish tracks are Song of Myself and Dead Boys Poem - both better live (imo).
Liked and subscribed and off to explore your other content. In the meantime, take care ❤
please, throw away all "concepts" for this channel, grab your older professional brother...
ready up some snacks, some drinks ...
watch the whole 2013 Wacken Open Air show, and record yourselfs
i think this will be a good christmas present for all involved :)
I LOVE this format! It's so cool to watch someone break down the original and dive into where the song started before watching the live version to see what it has become. Some of the nuances from the studio doesn't translate as well to live mixes and of course stage presence and the crisp sound of live instruments and vocals doesn't always translate well to studio. Of course it makes a huge difference that there is an entirely different singer with a different style. It means there's more to appreciate when they have different styles. Of course people will have preferences but it doesn't mean that you can't appreciate a different take. I just really love this approach.
I also have to commend you on not letting the more aggressive fans turn you off to the band. I have a huge amount of respect for you for that. Kudos!
Thank you for your reaction and the expert composer! I'm really curious how you both think about "Song of myself". Studio version and live at Wacken with Floor Jansen. Greetings from The Netherlands.
I just cannot listen anymore to the old studio versions, as Live shows with Floor are just superior in every way.
Another quality analysis. Thank you.
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Anette Olzon is often overlooked, especially when compare to Floor, but she is an amazing singer and this stuff is very hard to sing.
I usually suggest to wait for the NW epics until 3 or 4 songs in, but since you guys are smart, im gonna suggest The Poet and the Pendulum (2015 for the live) or The Greatest Show on Earth (Wembley) if youre ready to make a 40 minute video.
Love the channel. Its the only reaction channel i really watch anymore. 10/10
👍What a great review.I never liked the studio version of this song,the 2th and 3th voices of Annette sound like "Mickey Mouse" it sounds to me "they" put a high pitch shifter on that,it doesn't really sound naturally to me.I know! Annette is not a bad singer but,really,Floor fit's this style of music like a glove. With Floor it's just the instant vibe you get and hold your atention. It's like you said; you can learn some things but,some people just have this natural gift.🤘
Thank you for a yet another very good reaction and analysis, guys!
I do not reall if I have ever said that here, but when I first heard that Floor will be joining Nightwish my thought was: 'Yep. It's going to be amazing'. Because I was already familiar with her work with After Forever and ReVamp and of course I have been following Nightwish for many years and their struggle to find a fitting vocalist was real.
Btw I would like to chastise the person who commissioned a Mastodon review. Way to spoil a first reaction to them from this channel. Well, at least you didn't go for any of the later albums.
Btw2: are you guys recording the info about the band and song before or after the actual reacting and analyzing part? Because if so then I personally would be wary of this since it can build up certain expectations or misconceptions or even command your way of thinking about the track instead of forming your own opinion first. This it my 2 cents. Looking forward to more videos from you. And yeah, doing studio and live at least in the same video - definitely a step up. Makes me think that you are finally beginning to see the light :D And sorry for sounding so condescending.
What a thorough reaction. Well done. Oh and don't forget Floor originally had 48 hrs to learn that and perform it live.
Oh, loved this reaction. Subscribing for more! ❤
Only discovered your channel tonight so I’m sorry if you’ve already done this, but please look into the story behind The Poet & The Pendulum by Nightwish then do a reaction vid to it. First time I heard it, I didn’t know any of the story behind it. I thought it was a bit weird (I like weird though) but I knew there was something more to the song that I just wasn’t getting. I kept being drawn back to listening to the song though (probably cuz I can relate to a lot of the lyrics due to being in a very dark place in the past). Once I looked into the real meaning behind the song, I was totally blown away. It’s truly a work of art. I now understand why they call Tuomas The Mozart of Metal. It’s such a deep, metaphorical, well written song & Floor just takes “amazing” to another level. I honestly can’t get enough of reaction vids to Pendulum. I love seeing people’s faces as they hear it for the first time. Every time I hear Pendulum, I notice another new detail I’d missed in the hundreds of times I’ve heard it before. You just got yourself a new subscriber from across the pond in Northern Ireland - but PLEASE react to The Poet & the Pendulum 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yes, "The Poet and the Pendulum" please 🙏😊👍❤️
With all respect for Anette, she can't compete with Floor. Anette is a studio and more poppy singer (and not good live), where Floor is a real live singer and fully trained in classical singing, opera and theatre AND finished the rockacademy. Everything Floor touches becomes gold instantly. Also te bandmembers are so freaking good live. I was lucky I saw them 6 times, and also was at the Wacken festival where this was recorded. The live version has so much more dynamics, the instruments sound better and yeah....you do not need a choir for the high parts with Floor. But it adds somethingvery special. Floor makes the vocal lines so much more interesting (not flat) and her range is extra ordinary (she can go so much higher than this)
Tuomas is such a great composer and you never know where the song wil bring you. He also works with the London Philarmonic Orchestra, writes the music for all instruments and choir. They use it as backtracks because it's undoable to get the whole orchstra on stage everytime they perform😂
You were really nice with giving Anette's vocals an 8. I think an 8,5 is just right for the studio version. IMO the live version deserves at least a nine out of ten.☺ Thank you sir
Sometime there arrive a reactor with reaction with depth and quality. I hope you stay on the Nightwish train
In quality/production, Nightwish top5 is probably Dead Boy's Poem, Ghost Love Score, Shoemaker, Greatest Show on Earth and Poet and the Pendulum, in no particular order.
None of those are in my top5.
Ask 10 random NW fans and they'll have completely different best-of lists, which is proof that Nightwish has something for everyone and they keep very high level.
Floor covered the Lady Gaga song, Shallow, on the Dutch variety show Bestie Zangers.
It would be very interesting to hear your thoughts about the two different renditions.
I really liked your approach. With Nighwish, it is clearly noticeable how the songs develop according to the different singers. In addition, it can be seen how the players and their playing together improve as well.
Good studio version vs live performance from Nightwish are:
Sleeping Sun or
Ghost River (Imaginaerum)
The studio is with there 2nd singer Anette Olzon 2007 - 2012 in the operatic part Anette could not sing it so they use a backing tract , The live is with there current singer Floor Jansen 2012 - current she sang the operatic part herself. If I may suggest there song "7 Days to the Wolves" live at Wembley 2015. I think that song will make you feel like this one did
Greetings and Love from Köln/Cologne, Germany. Awesome reaction like always. Well, I don't think there was much time to rehearse for Floor & Nightwish. During the 2012/13 world tour, Annette left the band. Floor was asked if she could step in because Nightwish didn't want to cancel the last concerts. Floor agreed and had to learn and master all the songs on the setlist within 48 hours.
I wish you and your love ones a peaceful X-Mas time, buddy..& stay safe ♤
Anette vs floor is like fb Kopenhagen vs Manchester City. It’s like a different league all together.
Live with Floor is always better.
Tuomas is an excellent poet!🤘🎸
Excellent idea of doing studio version and then live version. If you can find it I recommend watching this entire show. I have it and I have not found a single mistake or mis-queue through the 2 hours and 15 minutes. Emmpu does not break a string, Marko's voice never cracks or goes off key, Tuomas never hits the wrong key and all pyrotechnics fire correctly. It was technically a perfect show. I see the General of the Nightwish Army has dropped by. Gabriel, upload your list to him so that he has some choices. If you get around to doing it, I would recommend "The Poet and the Pendulum", BUT, you must research the letters from the band to the first singer, Tarja and then her response and then understand that the song was written from Tuomas's point of view. Do the Official version live at Wembley Arena in 2015. Also if you want to make John work his butt off, also review "Greatest Show on Earth" Live at Tampere in 2015. The song is only 24 minutes and change.
Hello. Are you wondering how many samples were necessary for this? The fact is that it was Floor Jansen's first appearance with Nightwish and she was only asked 3 days before the concert if she would fill in. So much for rehearsals :)
You can see it in the documentary
@frankk1pro484 It would be really nice if you had done a bit more research before you post such silly "facts". This isn't by far Floor's first appearance with Nightwish.
Floor joined Nightwish on Oct., the 1st of 2012 for the show in Seattle, performed on the rest of the North American leg of their tour, then they went to South America, and Australia / New Zealand. They had a 4 month touring break from mid January to mid May, toured Japan for three dates and played the European festival season in the summer of 2013. All in all, Wacken was the 46th show (if I counted correctly) for Floor with the band.
But, this is still pretty darn impressive, what great chemistry they had developed in such a short time. Not many bands have that tightness, even after a lifetime of touring...
Excellent job!
Floor = the most talented & versitile female vocalist the planet has to offer right now.. keep going down this rabbit hole you'll see lol.
The song describes the main character of the film.
Studio and live are very different for Anette. Live she gives the songs a jazz touch that doesn't work. The consequence can be seen in the number of clicks on UA-cam, which are very few for her live recordings. They disappear between the live recordings of Floor and Tarja. Nevertheless, after her dismissal, Anette publicly asked who should sing Storytime now (because she did it so uniquely). The Wacken video provides the answer.
Tuomas often writes rollercoasters that suddenly change direction. This usually takes more than 3 minutes and is beyond radio capability.
After Tarja, Tuomas probably wanted to develop the music with Anette in the direction of Within Temptation, the other co-founder of symphonic metal. But he had robbed Nightwish of the soul and corrected that again with Floor:
Within Temptation - Bleed Out (official music video)
Ghost Love Score is one of the "big three songs". “The Poet and the Pentulum” and “The Greatest Show on Earth” increase this even further, also in length. On the current record, "All the Works of Nature Which Adorne the World" is a 30 minute orchestral piece that is divided into 8 tracks and has never been performed live. They used the last track on the tour as the end song during the bow and Floor then sang again.
Floor's father says about her first appearance that he saw a completely different daughter there. The stage Floor and the private Floor seem to be two different people. In the photo this one
Event you can already see a Floor that is under tension from top to toe. Even back then she sang with her whole body.
Completely agree with you that live with Floor is superior. However important to remember that this comparison is not only between official vs live version, but between two different vocalists.
The official music video to the song is quite wonderful as well imo.
I understand, from a composers standpoint, why you would want to do the studio version. But Nightwish really shines live. Floor really shines live. She's a natural empath, so she soaks up the crowd's energy like a capacitor, then discharges it in the best way possible. There's an energy being transmitted there that a studio can't do. And Floor Jansen is the only floor that's never flat. She's so good that it is somewhat effortless for her, and that allows her to concentrate on the crowd, and the interactions. And She had only been with the band about 9 months at this point. Some folks in the crowd, this was the first time they ever saw her, or heard her. Digest that for a second. She was still that good. She's a Valkyrie.
As for their live performances, they do use an orchestral backing track as it’s quite difficult to tour with a full orchestra, but they are absolutely playing live. There’s a click track that Jukka (the drummer) is playing to and Tuomas (keyboard) triggers and controls the recorded orchestral tracks and plays individual keyboard instruments on top of it. It’s quite a technical show and they do it so damn well.
I really enjoy your reactions and analysis! I reckon you are ready for the - in my opinion - greatest Nightwish song: Poet And The Pendulum. It is really important to read the backstory for this song as it makes it so much more emotional. It's about how Tuomas - the composer - felt after the band had fired their first lead singer - Tarja. It's deep and deeply emotional song. Again Floors live version - this time from Wembley 2015 - is in my opinion the best rendition of the song, but the studio version is the one I fell in love with. Can't wait to hear you tackle that beast.
thank you for your reaction, i enjoyed that. if you want to go for a little softer side of nightwish maby "i want my tears back" from wacken or "my walden" would be a good listen, on the slightly harder side you could go for the wacken showopener "dark chest of wonders" or the show ender "last ride of the day" my preferred version is from masters of rock 2015
If you want contrast, look at the Buenos Aires performance where they dug out some of their old songs and adapted them to their then-current lineup, with additional band members and added experience - I'm a particular fan of what happened to "Devil and Deep Dark Ocean" myself, but others like "Come Cover Me" also bring it home.
Very nice reaction and analysis man! I have a little advice for you. I see that you don't have enough time to do reaction videos regularly. So I guess you won't go on a full Nightwish journey as many channels do. In my opinion the best way to continue is with the 2 masterpieces of Nightwish.
'The poet and the pendulum'
'The greatest show on earth' both live from Wembley (no studio version is needed, believe me). We are not talking about great songs. As I said before they are masterpieces. Maybe in the top ten of modern music. In the same category with 'Bohemian rapsody' or 'Stairway to heaven'. If you choose to do this, you may find it helpful to read one or two things about those two compositions.
I feel you would really appreciate Seven Days to the Wolves. The live version usually reacted to is Wembley 2015, but I’d definitely love to see a reaction to both the album live version as in this video 🙂
Hearing the album version for the first time, I'm surprised how delicate and child-like Annette's performance sounds. I really prefer Floor's interpretation and the live performance, too.
The band itself deserves praise. When Kai took over as drummer, he said it took two hours to transcribe Jukka's drum parts so he could reproduce them correctly.
Also, I wonder if the line "The core of all life is a limitless chest of tales" is a call back to the earlier song "Dark Chest Of Wonder"?
What you'll find with Nightwish is that just when you think you know what to expect from them they throw you a curve ball.
Nightwish evolves to the best band of itself with the best members, composer and singer in this band
You: It takes months and months to get this tight.
Floor: 48hrs.